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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ravens Press Pass Podcast. The Ravens have

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Speaker 1: made their first round draft pick in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five NFL Drafts, selecting safety Malachi Starks out of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: He's clearly fired up to be a Raven and he's

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Speaker 1: going to bring some real versatility to the back end

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Speaker 1: of this defense. He was a highly productive player at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: had six interceptions in his college career, and he was

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Speaker 1: the guy who had been linked to the Ravens throughout

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Speaker 1: this process, and the Ravens certainly were excited about the

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Speaker 1: potential of getting him with their first round pick. Eric

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Speaker 1: Tacosta and John harball I met with the media after

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Speaker 1: the pick and here's what they had to say about

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Speaker 1: drafting Malachi Starks.

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Speaker 2: Well, everybody, we are happy to take Malachi Starks. He's

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Speaker 2: a player that we've seen over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: a great football player at a great football program, wired

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Speaker 2: like a Raven, great mental, probably one of the most

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Speaker 2: impressive interviews we've ever had at the combine.

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Speaker 1: Ballhawk.

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Speaker 2: He's a physical guy. He's a very very good tackler,

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Speaker 2: and I was reminded that the last time we took

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Speaker 2: a starts in the first round. He ended up intercepting

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Speaker 2: a pass in the Super Bowl, so hopefully that ends

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Speaker 2: up happening again. Questions you can chair with.

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Speaker 3: Malachi and you kind of touched upon the interview with

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Speaker 3: the kind of back Was there anything else that kind

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Speaker 3: of stood out throughout the draft process? That kind of

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Speaker 3: means you and kind of stooted out.

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Speaker 2: Together, you know. I just think that as we go

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Speaker 2: back and look at our very best players, they've just

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Speaker 2: wired a certain way, they play a certain way consistently

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Speaker 2: and throughout the process. Malachi was a guy that just

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Speaker 2: really passed every single test he we have, you know,

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Speaker 2: as far as football GPA, very very high production as

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Speaker 2: a player, durability, ability, everything. Really, it just made a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense for us to take him.

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Speaker 4: John, do you already are to kind of visualize what

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Speaker 4: your defense looks like, especially now teaming him up with

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Speaker 4: Hamilton who walls and does.

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Speaker 5: A variety of league we have we have I think

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Speaker 5: when you when you look at Malachi on tape and

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Speaker 5: you guys have seen him, I'm sure all different positions

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Speaker 5: he plays. He plays both safety, he plays nicol he

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Speaker 5: plays the dime linebacker spot, which is what Kyle does.

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Speaker 5: Which is what Adarius does. And then Marlon plays inside

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Speaker 5: and outside. So the ability to move all those pieces

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Speaker 5: around and get him in different positions is pretty pretty exciting.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is, you know, Eric kind of just

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Speaker 5: mentioned this, but when we first came out of the season,

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Speaker 5: we had a conversation about just the type of mindset

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Speaker 5: that we were looking for and the guys who are

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Speaker 5: going to bring in, and to me, Malachi he fits

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Speaker 5: that perfectly. You know, he's smart, he's tough, he loves football,

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Speaker 5: he loves everything about football. And you saw it when

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Speaker 5: he walked up to see I saw it when he

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Speaker 5: walked you can see it when he walked down the

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Speaker 5: hallway there and out to the stage. It looked like

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Speaker 5: he was coming through the tunnel game day. He's ready

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Speaker 5: to go, you know, and we're just I think he's

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Speaker 5: just excited to be a raven, as we are excited

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Speaker 5: to have him be a raven.

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Speaker 6: Do your phone ring?

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Speaker 7: Do you consider being back it all up? Was starting

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Speaker 7: to target all along, and how busy was.

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Speaker 8: That at the time we were going a far.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that as we looked at

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Speaker 2: this draft, you know, the first round, we kind of

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Speaker 2: got a sense for most of the players that were

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Speaker 2: going to get picked in front of us, and we

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Speaker 2: have a realistic chance of being in when we picked

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Speaker 2: the phone started ringing. We had some opportunities to trade back.

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Speaker 2: In the end, you have to look at you know,

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Speaker 2: the you know, the excitement of actually getting some additional picks,

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Speaker 2: which we do love, versus you know, what kind of

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Speaker 2: player are you're going to get potentially, And you know,

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Speaker 2: for me, maybe I'm getting older and just you know,

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Speaker 2: a little bit more conservative than I used to be.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think looking at the quality of

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Speaker 2: have to get, it just it didn't make enough sense

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Speaker 2: for me. This was a guy that really checked every

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Speaker 2: There were some other players that we covered it as well,

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Speaker 2: but in the end, he was by far the best

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Speaker 8: Were you surprised to how things kind of happened with

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Speaker 8: so many guys that world into you or you thought

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Speaker 2: You know, I really wasn't surprised by the way this

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Speaker 2: this draft kind of unfolded. You know. In fact, I

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Speaker 2: think that in a lot of cases I kind of

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Speaker 2: knew which players were going to get picked, generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: and that was one of the reasons why for me

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Speaker 2: that I was nervous this year in the first round,

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Speaker 2: I was kind of nervous that we weren't going to

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Speaker 2: get a chance to get the player like Malachi, just

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Speaker 2: because this is what I would refer to as a

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Speaker 2: flattens out and it stays that way. It's gonna stay

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Speaker 2: that way in a second and third and fourth round.

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Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, it's a really good draft if

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Speaker 2: you have a lot of picks because it's flat in

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Speaker 2: the middle. But that being the case, you know, there

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Speaker 2: were really just a few players that we thought we

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Speaker 9: I think GM's and coaches some don't talk about how

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Speaker 9: hard it is to evaluate safeties just in general. Is

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Speaker 9: there any that you guys, did you wait more or

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Speaker 9: less and more doing that evaluation.

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Speaker 3: That's a sort of.

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Speaker 10: Position good John.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's that hard to evaluate safeties. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's running the guys, running around, making plays all over

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Speaker 5: the field. You know, we've done pretty well with those guys,

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Speaker 5: and we missed on guys just like everybody else. But

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Speaker 5: I mean he's a very versatile player. You know, he

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Speaker 5: covers people man the man, he comes up and tackles people.

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Speaker 5: He he's in zone. He plays nickel zone responsibility, which

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Speaker 5: is really kind of tricky. You know, he's got a

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Speaker 5: good feel for that in the deep middle. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's got range. So he showed ball skills, he showed

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Speaker 5: all the things, and then you you kind of put

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Speaker 5: on top of that the mentality that we talked about,

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Speaker 5: the mindset, kind of the football character. I guess you

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Speaker 5: could call it. The guy just loves to be out

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Speaker 5: there and he wants to He loves to play. He

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Speaker 5: can't wait to hit the grass. And to me, that's

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Speaker 5: a that's been a good recipe for success. It really

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Speaker 5: kind of no matter what the position is. But he

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Speaker 5: looks like a safety to me. We'll see, but I

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Speaker 5: bet I bet he'll prove us right here.

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Speaker 10: John's utul This is a little bit but last year

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Speaker 10: with Kyle label something you had to play a little

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Speaker 10: more split safety second half of the year, or not

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Speaker 10: just getting a player that starts as talent as he is,

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Speaker 8: Up Hamilton to be as versatile as he can be.

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Speaker 8: I mean, how important is that for you?

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Speaker 5: Definitely gives us that option, you know. And uh, and

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Speaker 5: it's not to say that Kyle won't be back there,

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Speaker 5: because he will be. But but the good news is,

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Speaker 5: like the offense isn't gonna know who's going to be

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Speaker 5: line up and say, Okay, Kyle's gonna be deep, you know,

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Speaker 5: or even our Darius is going to be deep, or

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Speaker 5: Darius all three of those guys could be on the

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Speaker 5: can play deep if we wanted them to. But really,

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Speaker 5: now it's it's those three guys. You know, it's interchangeable

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Speaker 5: That's pretty pretty exciting.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure you had, you know, a bunch of guys

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Speaker 8: obviously help would defense in that in that attention and

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Speaker 3: Back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I you know, I didn't, we didn't go

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Speaker 2: into it. You know, thinking that we'd take a defensive player.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were going into it thinking we're gonna

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Speaker 2: take the best football player we can take. And uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, there were some guys on the offensive side

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Speaker 2: a few really good players that were still there when

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Speaker 2: we picked Malachi. But you know, I think generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: we want to be a balanced drafting team. You know,

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Speaker 2: we want both sides of the ball to be really

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Speaker 2: strong and so, uh, you know, we're fortunate this draft,

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Speaker 2: as I said, we have a lot of opportunities the

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Speaker 2: next coming in a couple of days to get some

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Speaker 2: good players. And uh, I think you'll see us uh

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Speaker 2: fill some needs, take some really good football players, and

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Speaker 2: hopefully hit on a bunch of guys.

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Speaker 11: Eric, here's a high level starter at one of the

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Speaker 11: best burms in the country for three years. I mean,

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Speaker 11: does that Does that always give you more confidence than

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Speaker 11: a guy will step right on the field and help.

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Speaker 7: I think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know one thing that I've I've learned

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Speaker 2: from Assie. I mean, over the years, you look at

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Speaker 2: some of our best picks in their big school guys

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Speaker 2: sec you know, big ten, you know, pack ten back

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Speaker 2: in the day, guys like that, experienced guys from winning programs.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal. That's important, and that's something that

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Speaker 2: we we definitely look for. I mean, let's face it,

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Speaker 2: you know, the SEC is if not one, I mean

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Speaker 2: probably one, but one or two in terms of the

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Speaker 2: best football conferences in the country. And this is a

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Speaker 2: guy that's won national championships and played at a very

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Speaker 3: That's important. You guys keep your draft playing so close

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Speaker 3: to the best.

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Speaker 12: Were you I don't know, concern is the right word,

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Speaker 12: but were you aware of which is I mean there's

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Speaker 12: so much talk that you love stars. You know, he

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Speaker 12: said that he was your ideal pay That makes you

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Speaker 12: at all comfortable during this week?

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Speaker 2: You know, it did again, like I I sort of

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Speaker 2: like handicap it and model this thing out, and I

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Speaker 2: figured like, okay, well, you know, if Starks gets picked,

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Speaker 2: you know, and this is going to be another player there.

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Speaker 2: We had a few players that we really liked, and uh,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, it was kind of weird to

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Speaker 2: just always consistently seeing us you know, tied to him.

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Speaker 2: I mean there were a few other players too. In

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Speaker 2: the end, I think it's just it it fell for us,

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Speaker 2: and we're lucky that it did. But I can promise

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Speaker 2: you that if if somebody else has been there, the

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Speaker 2: right player, that we would have taken him. And I

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Speaker 2: believe he'd be a really good player.

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Speaker 3: For us because of you know, you sound like he did,

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Speaker 3: like Starks was already thought about possibly trading up at all.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I'm not. I'm not really, you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you guys ask me this question every year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not a big, big bl in trading up.

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Speaker 2: I just I just don't think that the data supports

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a fifteen minute interview. But he's smart.

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Speaker 5: He knows that he knew the defense. But just the

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Speaker 5: You know, the way the scouts felt about him once

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, they don't always clap upstairs. They clapped this year,

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Speaker 1: It's it's like a little bit of like one of

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Speaker 13: We need to see the tape.

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Speaker 3: Just out of curiosity. There was a giraffe in the

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Speaker 6: Who's I do with that?

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Speaker 1: We also heard from Alchai soon after the pick as

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Speaker 1: I know the Ravens have been linked to you throughout

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I feel like it was a really good place

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Speaker 15: Brian, there we go, can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Kai?

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Speaker 15: Well, first, congrats, Just how familiar argue with with the

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think I got a good feel for it

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Speaker 15: And just what was your reaction when you got the

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Speaker 4: Cordell Woodland and then Ryan Mink, Hey, Malaca, congratulations. So

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm ready. I think coming from a.

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Speaker 6: Malachi, your zoom has been muted.

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Speaker 13: You know, hear me?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we got you now ahead.

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Speaker 13: I was just saying, you know, coming from a place

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Speaker 14: Ryan Mink Okay, I know your versatility is one of

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Speaker 7: The Clifton Brown please Yeah, congratulations man, Like I know

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Speaker 13: harped on was taking the ball away. You know, the

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Speaker 13: game of football is all about the ball. So just

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Speaker 13: being able to have my strengths and being able to

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Speaker 13: have point and then understanding how to take the ball

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Speaker 13: away in scenarios. I think I think that's huge and

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Speaker 13: I think I'll create value for myself and a team

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Speaker 13: as well.

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