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Speaker 1: I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller. This is hot pursuit.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the podcast, we're gonna talk about a

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Speaker 2: self driving Mercedes, the new drive pilot technology. Hannah tested

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Speaker 2: it out. Have they beaten Tesla to the punch. We're

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Speaker 2: also going to talk about the BMW I seven. This

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Speaker 2: is the fully electric version of their seven series, their

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Speaker 2: flagship executive limousine.

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Speaker 1: Hannah's driving it this week.

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Speaker 2: I have driven it before and it gave me ideas

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Speaker 2: for the next car that I need.

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Speaker 1: Plus, we'll talk about Porscha.

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Speaker 2: They came out with earnings that were obviously good because

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Speaker 2: they're Porsche. I'm also driving a much cheaper I guess

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Speaker 2: caman competitor in a way that we'll talk about, and

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Speaker 2: they could electrify them a con. I want an ST.

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Speaker 2: I tried to get a nine to eleven R. There's

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Speaker 2: so much to talk about in terms of Porsche. But hey,

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Speaker 2: let's start with the Mercedes Drive Pilot, which is their

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Speaker 2: level three autonomous driving system.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say this is the big deal

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Speaker 3: because Tesla has been talking about their full self driving

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Speaker 3: for years and they do sell something that they're calling

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Speaker 3: full self driving FSD, but it actually requires a bit

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Speaker 3: So Mercedes swoops in with something they're calling drive Pilot,

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Speaker 3: which is level three driving, which does not require your

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Speaker 3: hands on the wheel ever, and doesn't require your eyes

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Speaker 3: on the road. So literally you can sit back and

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Speaker 3: So it is kind of a big deal. There are

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Speaker 3: limitations that we can talk about, but as somebody who's

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Speaker 3: not especially excited about the idea of self driving in general,

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Speaker 3: I have to say it did kind of win me over.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty impressed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk first about the benefits of self

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Speaker 2: driving technology before we get into the limitations on the

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Speaker 2: Mercedes system, and also the cost, which I think is interesting.

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Speaker 2: You live in one of the most congested places on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really true. And I actually when I tested it,

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Speaker 3: drive that way every day to work. It is some

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Speaker 3: drive pilot, really did make it feel like that. It

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Speaker 3: drives the car for you. It only drives the car

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Speaker 3: for you on highways that have two lanes or more

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Speaker 3: this is already getting into some of the imitations. But

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Speaker 3: the benefit is I got a lot of things done

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Speaker 3: looking at videos, I was playing on Instagram. That's a

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Speaker 3: I think we can agree that Prius drivers are the worst.

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Speaker 2: So I mean for me, for my commute, I drive

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Speaker 2: And I like to pretend that I can drive a

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Speaker 2: The problem is I'm sometimes slowed to a halt, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess it'll come.

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Speaker 2: As you wrote that, they're pushing to get to eighty

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Speaker 2: Coolest parts of the story is that they have like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those lights are very cool, and they're actually primarily

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Speaker 3: actually have not yet been approved for new models, but

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Speaker 2: The only other problem with this is, you know, I

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Speaker 2: Also, I don't like it when someone ducks in front

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Speaker 1: So rude. And it doesn't follow that closely, does it.

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Speaker 3: it'll just cancel the system. So yeah, I don't I

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Speaker 3: agree with you. I don't like that these new programs

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Speaker 3: don't allow aggressive driving, because sometimes we do need to

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Speaker 3: drive aggressively. I like your term extreme tailgating. That sounds

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Speaker 1: I've taken that from college football. Yeah, fandom.

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Speaker 3: That's that's very good. And you know, I think these

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Speaker 2: Well it is sometimes you really do feel like you

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Speaker 2: and that is what are you driving this week? You

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I surprisingly kind of liked it

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Speaker 3: Yes, the Caarer tee is a nine to eleven is

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Speaker 3: It's honestly like the smart adult choice.

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Speaker 1: It's a better compliment that I've been given in years.

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate the compliment.

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Speaker 2: We have the same choice in nine to eleven New

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Speaker 2: You can watch me on Bloomberg TV from one pm

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Speaker 2: Instagram at Matt Miller nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter on the same handle, but I don't

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Speaker 3: And if you want to find me, you can find

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Speaker 3: me on Bloomberg dot com under Bloomberg Pursuits. That's where

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Speaker 3: all of my car coverage lives. You can find me

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Speaker 3: although I'm not on there very much these days either.

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Speaker 2: All right, catch Hot Pursuit again next week, same time,

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Speaker 3: I'm Matt Miller, I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg