1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Well, Jacks Dride time with AshEL and Soulis, John Oshans 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: bry Insects Jacks Dride. It starts right now. Well, overall 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: feel great, you know, um, all the way back to 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: even the free agency. You know, we addressed a lot 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: of issues early with free agents, and and now we 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: we picked it up in here in the draft. And 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: and then just speaking about the process, You've heard us 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: talk a lot this weekend about the collaboration, the communication 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: involving the staff, um, you know, and just really spending 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time with these with these players, you know, 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: and the board and and um, you know, for me, 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: it was refreshing to do that and to be a 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: part of it that extensively. I know the coaches felt 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: the same way we have. You know, there's accountability there 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: with with the with the board and with you know, 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: with Trent and his staff, and and uh felt the 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: process was really good and really smooth round. The first 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: draft under head coach Doug Peterson was a success. Seven 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: draft picks coming here to Jacksonville, and accountability is the keyword. 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: I think they're welcome to Jaguars Drive Time. Ashlan Sullivan, 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and John O's you're here with you on 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning, and it was quite the weekend. It 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: was a long weekend flying back from Vegas here in Jacksonville, 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: but it's always a rewarding weekend and it was something 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: where the Jaguars really needed to get these players in 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: the building. And we're gonna talk a lot about it. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: It starts as a really fun weekend. All the anticipations 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: are like Christmas that build up through the months of 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: February and March and into April. UM, but it ends 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: with a whimper because by the time you get to 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: the fifth round, you're like, WHOA, Okay, let's get this 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: thing over with. You're right, it's important. They've got to 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: to continue and carry through the end of the draft 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: and make sure they get the value for those picks. Um. 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: But I think I speak for John when they traded 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: those two picks for next year. Yes, yeah, I was 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: torn when they did that. Between to see an elation 38 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: because it was and I think it's important remember about 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: this draft. It looked to me on Day three, like 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Trent Balky looked at the draft and said, I believe 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: there is going to be greater value next year in 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: the draft. Traded out with the two six round picks 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, five and a seven for a fourth 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: next year. It seemed to me pretty clear on Day 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: three that he was saying, I don't mind these players, 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: but I believe there will be some value in having 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. The fourth round pick, it's supposed 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: to be a guy who can potentially start get that 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: next year, so or it's better leverage moving somewhere up 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: into the second round. It's it's more valuable pick obviously. Yeah, 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and I was on talking to a Ton ten x 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: L yesterday and they said, you know, it seems like 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: we know so much more about the process of this 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: draft this year, and I really hadn't thought much about that, 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: but it is true. Coach Peterson just talked about the accountability. 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we got such more of an access 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: to this pre draft process this year, and I'm sure 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: that will intentional. But they weren't trying to say how 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: hard they worked on this draft process this year. Well, 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: I think they did work hard. I mean, I don't 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: think they were saying there. I don't think they were 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: saying they were mailing it in. But Doug did a 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: nice job during the pre draft luncheon, and then after 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: the draft, I think Trent did too of talking about 65 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: the collaboration. Every time Trent was asked about a pick 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: he made, he said, hey, this was everybody. That was 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: the buzzword. I got that impression from talking to people 68 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: after the draft that this wasn't a case like with 69 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: the first round pick Trayvon Walker, where Trent came down 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: from on high and said, I am taking this. I mean, 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: it was a collaborative process. And I thought the money 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: quote was the one that we used at the top. 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: You could hear in Doug's quote that he really hadn't 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: been a part of a process that brought the coaches 75 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: in quite as much to this. I thinks what he 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: meant by accountability, Hey, we asked for some of these guys. 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Now we've got to go have some success with the 78 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: Walker pick, I think rightfully has been termed the home 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: run swing, right because this guy's upside is is was 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: greater than a lot of the players you know, who 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: were thought to be in that area. You can't take 82 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: a home run swing unless you the general manager and 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the coach are in collaboration. He couldn't have taken it 84 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: by himself. I don't believe he had to have Doug, 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: which is why I think Doug came into the post 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: news conference on which is watching online from Vegas, and 87 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: his first thought, Hey, we were all in on this one. 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: This is what we believe. Um the owner asked for transparency, 89 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: said he would provide transparency when he made the move 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: last year to change coaches, and we're seeing it all 91 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: the way through the draft. Let's get into big things. 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Big thing one is extending Cam Robinson, signing his extension 93 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: yesterday to keep him here in Jacksonville. And this really 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: goes back to the shift course seeing from coach Peterson 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: and Trent baal Key of really working to keep good 96 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: players here in Jacksonville. The front office and you know what, 97 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: the coaches kind of wanted to keep you know, some 98 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: of the stables around just to kind of build around 99 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: and kind of you know, started started to form that 100 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: what we what we want to ultimately get done here. 101 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: So long, I mean, I think it's just a great 102 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: thing that's keeping guys around, and we brought in kind 103 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: of homegrown Um, myself, Josh and whoever else we decided 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: to keep around. Big thing too is defense heavy five 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: out of seven draft picks went to defense this year, 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: and there were so many needs going into free agency 107 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: in the draft, and general manager Trent Fault he feels 108 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: like he's checking all off, a lot off the list 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: right now, you know, dealing with coach and going through 110 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: the process with the coaching staff. You know, it's all 111 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: about developing the best roster, the best fifty three, and 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: that's how we approached free agency, that's how we approached 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: the draft. Obviously, you have to address needs, and we 114 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: felt we did that. We looked at it. You know, 115 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, we go through an 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: end of the season review and write down the top 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: needs that we want hey have on offense, defense, and 118 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: special teams, and we feel like we did a really 119 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: good job of addressing those and we're gonna continue to 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: address the needs that we see as we worked through 121 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: the off season program. And finally, big thing three is integrity. 122 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: This pre draft process was very different than what we've 123 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: seen in the past. Owner's hot Com was in the 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: building a lot. He was at the combine the entire 125 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: time and all the interviews and the workouts, and when 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: I asked out it, he said, yeah, it's pretty clear 127 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: we need to make a change to how we did this. 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: This has been you know, very intensive process with really 129 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: the coaches, with the scouts, viewing film together, a very 130 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: grueling process where there's integrity in the evaluation. It isn't 131 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 1: I have a bias and just give me the data 132 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: to you know, convince myself for other people, and which 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you know lead to really, Um, you know how the 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: raft boards shoke out. I love that integrity to the evaluation. 135 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: That's not the first time he said that. No, you 136 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: know what I like. Um, when you think about a 137 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: couple of teams who draft well every year, the Steelers, 138 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: right with the Rooneys years ago, you know, set the 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: personality of their franchise and how they were going to 140 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: build a team, and it's been remarkably consistent, you know 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty nine. Um. Now you hear about Stephen 142 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Biscotti in the war room with the Ravens, and the 143 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Ravens just they they draft so well every year. It's 144 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: no wonder they've been so consistent since moving to Baltimore 145 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. That's where ownership comes in. 146 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: He won't always have to do that, but for the 147 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: next couple of years for him, to be involved in 148 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: setting the the personality of his franchise, that the direction 149 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: of the franchise. I think I have said, I think 150 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: it's really important that he's involved in every aspect of 151 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: this franchise to give it that Jaguar way. Whoever's knocking 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: to the studio door, just let him in. I wonder 153 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: if you guys can hear this. They're tearing down a 154 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: kitchen on this wall and it is alarmingly loud, but 155 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe it's not to our lovely viewers. What was big thing? 156 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: One extended Cameron? Congratulations. This is a topic and it's 157 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: an important topic. And in writing that story yesterday, we're 158 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: talking about Cam. I know he said, Hey, it's important. 159 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: We're starting to keep guys around. He's the first. I mean, 160 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: you have Dawn Smoot, Josh Allen, they signed the tour 161 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: of He hasn't been extended yet. I believe they will. Uh. 162 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: Cam is not really a part of something. He's the forerunner. 163 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: He's the most tenured guy on the team short of 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley. Uh you have made uh Cam Robinson with 165 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: this a core piece. Um Yeah, I like the move, 166 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: I like the philosophy behind it. But you hope what 167 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: happens in the next two years you look back and 168 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: see Cam Robinson as part of a trend, because what 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: they're talking about is important. But let's not act as 170 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: if he's one of many. This is the swooped. This 171 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: has to start a trend for this team. I think 172 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: it's very important. It's very important that he plays well 173 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: and rewards them for it. But it's key that this 174 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: is not an unusual story. It's been too unusual, you know. 175 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: And you're totally right. Uh, And that's part of the direction, right. 176 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure the ownership was involved in that conversation as well. 177 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: I think I shared the story of the day that 178 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: they put the franchise tag on him. I grab a 179 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: member of the scouting staff and I said, why he's 180 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: a rising player? I said, really, we think his best 181 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: football is way in front of him, that he is 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: reaching two new levels every game last year. Um, if 183 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: you believe that, John, every rising player has to stay. 184 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: You can't let them. You can't let them, Jalen Ramsey, 185 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: you and get out of the building if that's the case, 186 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: or throw a fit like in gok way uh and 187 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: and and and not get what he wants you've got 188 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: to find a way to get those guys in. Um. 189 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I think Cam is a really good player if he 190 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: does have his upside. Left tackles are hard to find. 191 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: We've been looking for one since Bosselliah And hopefully everything's 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: right in the build so being got ways and the 193 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: rams and don't happen. Something else to point out. And 194 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: everything's young to me now because I'm old. But Cam's 195 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: only twenty six. There were guys getting drafted at twenty four. 196 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Cam's going into a sixth year. So, uh, there's a 197 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: good chance that he does have his best football ahead 198 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: of him. Think about this, when he gets done with 199 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: this deal. I think it's a three year deal. He'll 200 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: be twenty nine, He'll he'll get another one math Uh, 201 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: so he can still be playing a long time and 202 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: could still become very wealthy. Well, and you have Look, 203 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,479 Speaker 1: you have three offensive tackles, and any two in combination 204 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: you'd feel really good about. Right. Um, we assume Walker 205 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Little is going to compete with Juwan Taylor over on 206 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: the right side. That's two second round picks. If you 207 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: have three tackles that you feel good about, good for you, right, 208 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of times around here 209 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: that you've wondered about both of the starting tackles, and 210 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: now you've got three in competition and way to that though. Yeah, 211 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: if you're walker a little, are you okay with that? 212 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: Are you okay with moving over to the right side 213 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: and competing for that spot? Better be okay with it? 214 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: You don't have a choice. Yeah, I keep hearing about 215 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: I've heard that question. I've also heard uh, well, if 216 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: they have little or tailor if one of them, it 217 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: doesn't when that job moves to guard, are they willing 218 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: to do that? You have to want to play. I 219 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: mean the top guard on the old man and me, 220 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so tired. Well, I don't want to do this. 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: They'll do it because they're football players and they need 222 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: to be on the field. Well, and think about this 223 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: position wise, and left tackle used to be so much 224 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: higher paid than the right tackle. Do you realize right 225 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: now Cam Robinson is making eighteen million dollars a year 226 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: on that three year deal. The right guard is making 227 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars a year on his deal. Right guard, 228 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: left tackle, I mean centers, if you can play at 229 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: a high level, you're going to get paid. If I'm 230 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor. I think I'd like that eighteen million dollars. 231 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't have it right there? If I if I 232 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: become an all pro guard, I in, yeah, what's he 233 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna argue with his probade is hurt because people saying 234 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: you're not a tackle. Okay, you're not a tackle. I'm 235 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: an eighteen million dollar guard. Take it. But that press 236 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: conference he didn't say that. He said I'm a left 237 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: tackle and I'm not moving. He said right tackle, a 238 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: right tackle on SR. Okay, well he'll move and Bede 239 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: probably it was after the season. It was a day 240 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: after the season, after a long season, if you guys 241 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: know it or not. But last season um and he 242 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: was asked if if he'd be okay with moving to 243 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: right tackle. He said something no about moving to guard. No, 244 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: and everybody's played it up like it's this line in 245 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: the sand, but he's building up the troops and no. 246 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just see how it plays out. Okay, Fine, Well, 247 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is, when you see the 248 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: money that's there, why would you say no? I certainly wouldn't. 249 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: I know that much. But I'm not to want Taylor. 250 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: So that's pretty obvious. He'll be fine. Yes he will. 251 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: He will be just fine, and that is big things. 252 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: When we come back on Jaguars Drive Time, we're going 253 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: over Trent Bulky's to do list, what was checked off? 254 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: What still needs to be done? On the Jaguars Digital Network, 255 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are future focus and ready for a new 256 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: look in join us at the bank this season as 257 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: head coach Dog Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence. To leave 258 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: the charge to lock in your seats, visit Jaguars dot com. 259 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: Slash tickets are called nine oh four six three three 260 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: two thousand. We are back Jaguars Drive Time a Tuesday 261 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: morning post draft. A lot has been done, a lot 262 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: has been checked off, let's do list, but something remain 263 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: for general manager Trent Balky. So we decided to mock 264 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: up his to do list and thought it would be 265 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: on his desk right now if he had a to 266 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: do list, Briand what are you thinking? What what I 267 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: think he's done or what he needs to do? Okay, 268 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: well he he fortified. That's great, fortified both blinds um. 269 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: You know, in free agency they added Brandon Suiff, sureff 270 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Um and and then grabbing Keith Fordner. So now think 271 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: about it. We talked about the three tackles that you've got. 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: You've got at least two centers, You've got three guards. Um, 273 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: You've you've got numbers of quality. Right. Um, you got 274 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: a five time pro bowler that you add to the 275 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: middle of the line. You have fortified the offensive line. Um, 276 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: new coach coming in, let's see what they do. But 277 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: the numbers on the line say they have put great 278 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: effort into that. On the defensive side, you add fully thoughts, 279 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: right did I pronounced that? Right? Um? And Trayvon Walker 280 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: to Malcolm Brown, Roy Roberts and Harris Josh Allen Smoot. Right, 281 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: you now have built size, strength, depth talent on both lines. 282 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: And John will tell you, anyone will tell you that's 283 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: where you win in the NFL. The quarterback is obviously 284 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: the lynchpin to it all. But you don't do anything 285 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: unless you can get better. And they got a lot 286 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: better up front this offseason. Um, Now you let me 287 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: tell you what I think they do. Did you have 288 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: to identify the playmakers? Right? Who are those people who 289 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: are going to be I mean you go, well, clearly 290 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: they've already identified Christian Kirk Right, Um, so how do 291 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: these how do the how where's the pecking order? Who's one, two, three? 292 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, that's something the coaches are going to figure 293 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: out now. And when they get these guys on the field, 294 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: how do the tight ends roll into it? Where are 295 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: you running back? Who's gonna do what? Um? And that's 296 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: a process that comes in time, and they may be 297 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: looking for more guys as we go along. Here they've 298 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: got some playmakers, they've got identified more and into the future. 299 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Next year you go into the draft saying I gotta 300 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: have that big play receiver. I gotta find that guy, right, Yeah, 301 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: And if it wasn't there this year, it wasn't there 302 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: this year. Right. My direction is relatively the same. And 303 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: it's important to realize I got so many questions about 304 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: why they didn't do this with the draft, why they 305 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: didn't do this with the draft. The reality is, in 306 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: order to worry about next year, you had to take 307 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: free agency and the draft. I think they read amp 308 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: the run defense, and I know the response to this 309 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: is always, well, it's a passing lead. You care about 310 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: the run defense. When you play run defense the way 311 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: this team has played at the last three or four years, 312 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: it got a little better last year at times, but 313 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: there were still times where they were you know, they 314 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: would get cash. You. I don't know if just stopping 315 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: the run means you're going to win. I do know 316 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: that not stopping the run means you're gonna lose. So 317 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: they had to get that fixed. It feels like they 318 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: did that with Brian's boy Fatacasi, right, okay, and Trayvon 319 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Walker helps that the two linebackers help that. You can't 320 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: look at this roster and think it's not a significantly 321 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: better front seven against the run than it was three 322 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: or four days ago. That to me is indication they 323 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: felt like they needed that building block first. Once we 324 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: get that building block, let's see where we go from there. 325 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: You know, if you can't stop Jonathan Taylor, then you 326 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: don't make you know, fifteen year veteran Matt Ryan, who 327 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: wasn't that good here for the Falcons last year, you 328 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: don't make him beat you. Right, Jonathan Taylor beat you. 329 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan can just hand off and just you have 330 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: to do that. Now you gotta do the rest too. Well. 331 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: You don't do that, teams will never do anything else. 332 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: And I don't think that Ryan can beat you, right, 333 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: But Jonathan Taylor can yeah, and how many games last year? 334 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: Was at the end of the first quarter and you 335 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: just saw them pounding, pounding, pounding. You thought they don't 336 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: have a chance because they was clear from the very 337 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: start they couldn't stop it, and the other team saw 338 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: that very clearly. Most is the answer to your questions. 339 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go there, but you went there 340 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: a lot. Um, So what do they still need to do? 341 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: I think this is basically the same concept as Brian 342 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: and I think if you're looking at this situation, you 343 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: can't help it go this direction. Um, they need to 344 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: figure out. Now they've got their pieces on the offensive line, 345 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: where there's piece is going to fit and that's what 346 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: it's really about. Now they've got pieces of wider see 347 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: where they pieces of running back, the pieces over the place. 348 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: How are these How are the guys gonna actually fit? 349 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: I think Luke Ford are probably starts at center relatively soon. 350 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: But you've got to figure that out. Is it him 351 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: or Shatley? Is it Walker Little or Jowan Taylor? Uh? 352 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: Do one of those guys move into guard? Or is 353 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: it Ben Bart? So you feel like I kept talking 354 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: all weekend, They've got their eight. But I'm not sure 355 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: where those eight are gonna fit. So I think that's 356 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: what's next. That's what Trent Balky talked about in all 357 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: the press conferences. Now we've got the players. Now the 358 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: coaches have to figure out how to use them. Actually, 359 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: and this may seem like a stretch, but I think 360 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: they've got nine. I mean, I think Will Richardson's is 361 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: a valuable reserve. I think he's a guy that could 362 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: play inside or outside. Imagine nine. But yeah, I guess 363 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is they have nine who are okay. 364 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: You talk about quality and depth. Um, I can't recall 365 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: a time when the Jaguars had this many guys that 366 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: you could say with to play with him, we're okay. Yeah. 367 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: Is Luke Fortner drafted high enough to take shatley starting job? 368 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: Because I know Shotley was talking about that as his 369 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: contenson and talking about if they bring a draft pick in, 370 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm ready to compete. And we had confidence when Shatley 371 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: got his extension, that's your starting center and didn't bad 372 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: an eye about it. Well, I don't think you. You say, well, 373 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: we took him in the third round, so he's got 374 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: to start right away. Um, if he comes in and 375 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: shows what they saw it Kentucky. Remember that the scouting 376 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: reporter got on him was they read a very complex 377 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: blocking scheme in the ground attack. And so this is 378 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: a smart kid. He's a little older, he's twenty four. Um, 379 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, if he comes in and shows greater strength 380 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: and ability, and he does have the advantage this year 381 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: with a new coaching staff, it's all new. It's not 382 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: like Shatley has five years in the same system in 383 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: front of him. Now, he does have eight years as 384 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: a pro in front of him. But I don't think 385 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: you say, well, he's a third round pick, he's gonna 386 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: start on day one, but he might. I want to 387 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: answer your question. They absolutely drafted him to start for 388 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: five years. Now. I don't know if that five years 389 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: is opening to start on opening day. But you don't 390 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: draft an interior offensive lineman with the first pick of 391 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: the third round, which means he's one of the type 392 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: he was sixty overall. You draft interior offensive lineman there 393 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: they d have to lender. Brad Meester was the second 394 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: He's here to be a long term starter. Brad Meister 395 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: was the second round pick um out of Northern Iowa, 396 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: long term starter. A J. Can right wasn't a an 397 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: all pro level guard, but he started for you for 398 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: five years here, and he was a third round pick 399 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: as well, so it's a premium pick. Yeah, yeah, those 400 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: are starters. All right, Let's go to my to do 401 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: list coming up for Trent Bulky. A lot to discuss 402 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: here on druguards, drive time check, additions to the linebacker room. 403 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that more in the next segment. 404 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like you are set there in that 405 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: room as of now, and and this is something I 406 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up. Continues to make puns and press 407 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: commerses not checked, but getting close. I had so many 408 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: people say, Wow, Trent Bulky man, he was pretty funny. 409 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: Wow he's so relaxed. Wow, he's much more approachable. Yeah, 410 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: it's post the draft. It's way past his stressful area. 411 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: And I don't think it goes unnoticed that Trent Bulky 412 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: is making an effort to improve this image of especially 413 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter and social media. It's going notice that he's 414 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: becoming much more approachable in his media of conferences in 415 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: this was a notable topic this weekend. Look, he's in 416 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: his month as a general manager here UM, I don't 417 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: know how it's going to play out, but he took 418 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: over as a first year general manager, and somehow everything 419 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: that's happened has sort of got put on him, and 420 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: you forget what an absolute train wreck it was. UM. 421 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: I can't really put a finger as to why. There 422 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: was some other reason that that was going on, and 423 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: I just can't remember. So we'll move on. But the 424 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: point is, UH, I don't know about San Francisco. I 425 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know about anything else. I do know, in the 426 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: context of this thirteen or fourteen months, you're really just 427 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: getting started in terms of how your legacy, how your 428 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: building will be judged. UH so far, you know, if 429 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: you just look at what he's done here, UH, no 430 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: reason not to think that the job is being done well. 431 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: And then he's a decent guy in terms of what 432 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: we've seen. So people may have read the story of 433 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Marty Miller the Jaguar Scout that was posted on the 434 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: website UH in February when his brother Matt, who was 435 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: a longtime college quarterback, passed away of cancer an early age. 436 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: I know we posted it via Gregorian, who I think 437 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: you know wrote it. UM, and Marty's a longtime scout 438 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: here and a good friend. And Marty's had a rough 439 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: go of it. You know, father was a longtime GM 440 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: and died last year, and then his brother and Marty 441 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: deals with a nervous system disorder. And Marty and I 442 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: had a long conversation. He said, Trent treats him amazing, 443 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: uh and treats him really well. And so I said 444 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: to Trent, hey, thanks, and Trent and I had the 445 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: longest conversation we've had. I guess the point I'm trying 446 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: to make his to go off on this is that 447 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: the people who work for him think very highly of him. Right. 448 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: The people in this building don't know about San Francisco, 449 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: don't know about the jets where he was before. But 450 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: if all we can do is judge the people that 451 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: we know that talk to him, UM, Marty Miller, I 452 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: hold him in the highest regard. And Marty swears that 453 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: this is a good guy who's doing a good job. 454 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: So I UM, I left our little interaction after Saturday 455 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: night really encouraged about the future of this thing. And 456 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: and it's easy to judge people that you only see 457 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: through a camera line. It's so easy, so easy to 458 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: take things that you may have read somewhere else, um, 459 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: but people that I trust, and I just named him publicly, 460 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: right because the story was on the website raved about him. 461 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: Raved didn't just say, oh, he's a good guy, raved 462 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: about him. I think it's worth pointing out because he 463 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: took so much heat, so much heat, and as John said, 464 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: it was piled on him, you know, justly or unjustly. 465 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: And it was a really really strong endorsement. Yes, And 466 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: I will go as far as to say, the people 467 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: in the building who work for you are more important 468 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: than the people on Twitter. And I know you'll retweet that, No, 469 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't have Twitter. But the people who the people 470 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: who know are the people who work with you, not 471 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: the people who watch you exactly. And that is trouble 472 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: on this show, Sexy, because we could say whatever we 473 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: want about you on Twitter. Yeah you can, because I 474 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: don't care. And that is our to do list for 475 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Trent ball can. When we come back breaking down the 476 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: new additions to the Linebacker Room and where it stands 477 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: as of now on the Jaguars Sigil Network, you will 478 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: not believe what Daily's Place has in store for you 479 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: this year. Coming up is Tim mcgrawl this Thursday, the Lumineer, 480 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Dave Matthews Band, Keith Urban, and much more. For full 481 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: list of shows and to get tickets, visit Daily's Place 482 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: dot com. We are back Jaguars Drive Time. A lot 483 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: of additions to this linebacker rooms. We thought we'd have 484 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: to break it down, show you this list of linebackers 485 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: and where the heck are they going to play? How 486 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: is this going to work? Because the great thing is, Brian, 487 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: you have some options here, Yeah, you have a lot 488 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: of options. What I think is interesting, um, is that 489 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: they have Trayvon Walker listed as an outside linebacker. Right. 490 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: There was conversation in the press conference about you know, 491 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: him learning one in a position. Um. But an analyst 492 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: in Vegas told me, don't be surprised if they don't 493 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: try to use him like the Cowboys used Micah Parsons, 494 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: putting him in a lot of different situations. Of course, 495 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: I think that's what they did to Georgia from my 496 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: limited experience with Bulldogs watching them last year, he made 497 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: plays all over the field. Um. And then obviously I 498 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: had the interaction with Devin Lloyd in Vegas and thought, 499 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: did you guys see him when he was here? You 500 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: obviously did He's tall and broad shoulders and long arms, 501 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: and I mean he just looks like a modern linebacker. 502 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: Now you got these two guys there, it's an exciting room. 503 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really eager to see them both on the field. 504 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: They will both I think the day one starters. The 505 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: wench pin. That's the wrong word. But the key to 506 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: this class will be It's clear that Jaguars looked at 507 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: this and said we want three linebackers in Muma, Walker 508 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: and Lloyd who. When you look at it and you're 509 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: trying to break down their role, the honest answer right 510 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: now is I don't know what their roles will be sure, 511 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: because they're all versatile players. Bucky Brooks, you did a 512 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: great job with their draft coverage all weekend. Talked about 513 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: all three of them, as to use the word, we 514 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: teach them about a week and the Swiss Army knife 515 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: got Uh. They can all do different things. They're going 516 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: to bring Walker in and have him focus it outside 517 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: linebackers so that he is focused on one area. But 518 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: the whole key to this is versatile players who can 519 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. And what it's supposed 520 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: to be a versatile defense. Uh, that goes against the 521 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: grain a little bit from what you think rookies are 522 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: capable of. In the long term. You wonder if in 523 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: a year or two, when these guys all get up 524 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: to speed, you might look back at this draft and say, 525 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: these three guys are what enabled them to start playing 526 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: defense the way Calledwell wanted to do it. Uh. I 527 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: don't say gamble. Uh. We've got to see it play out. 528 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating because all three of these guys 529 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: have such versatile roles and versatile abilities. You know, you 530 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: have Mike Caldwell, who came up underneath Todd Bowls right, 531 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: and Bowls is obviously one of the pedigree defensive minds. 532 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued by all of these guys that they've added, right, 533 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Fatakasi upfront in full a lukan Alu kind 534 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: of still gonna work on that. With Walker and Muma 535 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: and Lloyd and um the additions in the secondary. I mean, 536 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: they just they have really increased the talent level, and 537 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: they've given them a guy that I think is a 538 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: bright defensive mind. It'll be fun to see how quickly 539 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: he can bring this group together. He's got to be 540 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: so excited. We talked to him a little bit after 541 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: the draft, and he's a more reserved guy. So I said, 542 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: how excited and he goes, yeah, I'm excited. I was like, man, 543 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: I was looking for more. They added all those guys 544 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: in seventeen. You know, you bring in bringing Calais and 545 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: you bring in uh A, J boy A and and 546 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: they brought a lot of guys in and it clicked. 547 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: It just worked quickly. Um, it'll be interesting to see 548 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: if it can work that quickly here. I'm curious with 549 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: Muma and they were talking about when we talked about 550 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: them after the draft, you know the green dot, the 551 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: play called the Communicator, that's what he's known for. A 552 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: really smart guy. I'm curious how he fits into this 553 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: because people were saying, Okay, well, yeah, he's gonna be 554 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: your starter, and I have hesitancies to say that he's 555 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: going to be a starter at this point. Well it's 556 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to when you're analyzing the draft. 557 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to print out the depth chart. A printer 558 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: slan is people print things modern every days. That was 559 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: a bad one, but everybody wants to print out the 560 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: depth chart and say he's going to fit in here 561 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: and he's going to play eighty two plays. He's going 562 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: to play every place. Is what I want. That's what 563 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: I want now, But that's not how it works when 564 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: the reality is, especially in this scheme, you need fifteen 565 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: or sixteen guys who can all play and do it, 566 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: and who can all start. If all you have ever 567 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: eleven and all of a sudden you're playing two or 568 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: three different packages, they're going to expose that or fourteenth 569 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: guy if he can't play. I think with Mamma and 570 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: with a Louikluikican, I'm sorry, Uh, those two guys. You 571 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: have two guys can wear the dot. That's what you 572 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: want because if one gets hurt, you another one who 573 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: can do it. I don't know if we know if 574 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: Moon was gonna start, if he's gonna play thirty four 575 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: plays a game, he's gonna play forty two. But I 576 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: think you've got multiple guys at at the linebacker position 577 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: who can play all these schemes. And I know we'll 578 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: be concerned about the depth chart, but I think when 579 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: you're watching the game, you're not going to have a 580 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: real feel for who started and who didn't, because they're 581 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: all going to be playing roles. You're old enough to 582 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: remember the Cowboys um pre printers, printers, pre salary cap here. 583 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Remember the Cowboys were stacked on defense and and when 584 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: free agency came around, it robbed them of a lot 585 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: of guys. They had so many guys and that was 586 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: Dave want Stat and he just rolled guys in. It 587 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: didn't matter who started. They had, you know, five cornerbacks 588 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: and four safeties and linebackers more than you could count. 589 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: And it just seemed like, Wow, these Cowboys are ridiculously talented. Well, 590 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: you don't see that in this game much because free 591 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: agency takes guys away, the recap limits keeping them. So 592 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: if you find a bunch of rookies and you know, 593 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: right now, find a starting spot from Muma, where where 594 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: is he going to start? Right? You're bringing a loucap 595 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: where's he gonna start? Um? But if you can roll 596 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: him in and take a guy off the field in 597 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: certain situations and packages, it really becomes interesting. And Mike 598 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: Caldwell kind of like Mike Smith used to do here 599 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: back in the day. He'll be up all night on 600 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: Tuesday coming up with a game plan and maximizing each 601 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: player in each matchup that he's got better him than me. Yeah, right, 602 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean they've got Hey, look, these guys have to 603 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: come in, Lloyd and Mum have got to come in, 604 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: and they've got to prove it. But if they're as 605 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: talented as they're expected to be, Mann does my cold 606 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: will have a lot of versatility in his game plan. Yes, 607 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: it's a game of packages and schemes. It's not the 608 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies where it's just a depth chart. To me, 609 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: Muma is a starter and Lloyd is a starter because 610 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: you start fourteen or fifteen guys and absolutely, and it's crazy. 611 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: We asked Mike call, well, you know how much different 612 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: is your job right now? You can't man, and now 613 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: you have free agency in the draft, and your defense 614 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: looks totally different. Not to mention the departures Miles Jack 615 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: for example, He's like, yeah, but it's a good problem 616 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: to have for for sure. And think about the turnover 617 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: in this defense. I believe from two thousand nineteen or 618 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: twenty Josh Allen the last key guy remaining. I believe 619 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: from the two thousand nineteen teams, So it's or two thousand, 620 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever, it's been a remarkable turnover in 621 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: terms of personnel, with Josh really being the only core 622 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: player in You just throw this out to um. We've 623 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: talked about all these guys and and and fully and 624 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: um the addition of Trayvon but Robertson Harris played pretty 625 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: big at times last year and was really good against 626 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: the run. And Malcolm Brown is a veteran guy, and 627 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: now you're rolling him in and giving him, you know, 628 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty targeted snaps per game. He'll be much 629 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: better in that role. This is a defense that has 630 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: legitimate aspirations for incredible growth this year. They should be 631 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: much much much better. Yes they will. Fingers crossed. Coming 632 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: back on coming up on Jaguars Drive Time, some closing 633 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: thoughts here on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back to 634 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time to Zay brought to you by Jet 635 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: Home Loans. A much slower week than it was last week, 636 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: and I think that is a blessing for all. But 637 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast is back with Bucky Brooks. He's 638 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: not tired of you yet, even though he worked. He's 639 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: exhausted of me, but he's not exhausted the draft. And again, 640 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about Bucky's coverage over last weekend, 641 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: and uh, it'll be one final huddle up looking back 642 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: in the draft. So I'll be curious, uh what he 643 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: has to say. And I have to remind people because 644 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: I had someone asked me the other day, so why 645 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: is Bucky Brooks come and work with the Jaguars. He 646 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: was a key part of that nineties six team that 647 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: had that late run into the playoffs that John and 648 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: I covered, h he was key on special teams in 649 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: Nickel and Dime pack It just people like he played here. Yes, yes, 650 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks was here and yes, and he is a 651 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: really super knowledgeable football mind. He really is. We were 652 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: watching the draft and it was the fifth round. He's like, oh, yeah, 653 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: that guy and he plays here and he does this, 654 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, he went into scouting and 655 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: he worked in He worked in a couple of different 656 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: places as a scout before getting into the media side. 657 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: So he knows it and he loves it. And more importantly, uh, 658 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: of all the franchise, the Raiders, the Packers, the places 659 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: that he played, Kansas City, Um, he considers Jacksonville. He's 660 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: home and we're all grateful that he did. Very incredibly knowledgeable, 661 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: very cool Football Mine On Thursday Jaguars Happier and myself 662 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: and Jeff Logman are going to have a defensive coach 663 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: on to talk about these five editions. That'll be fun. 664 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: And then Rookie Mini Camp is next weekend. St Yes, 665 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: it is a very large day, it really is. And 666 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that we do okay. 667 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: So root for me. We're confident in you. Thank you 668 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: very much. When we come back. We don't come back. 669 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: This is the end of the show. You already screwed 670 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: it up. Already screwed it up. Good luck on years 671 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: to Phil. We'll see you next week on Jaguars Drive Time.