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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory

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Speaker 1: with you, Ellen Brown with us, and we are talking

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Speaker 1: about our latest work, banking on the people. Ellen, Well,

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Speaker 1: did we ever get to the time where somebody goes

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Speaker 1: to the bank to withdraw money in the bank says

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Speaker 1: we don't have any That did happen in the nineteen thirties,

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Speaker 1: of course, in the Great Depression, and then we got

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Speaker 1: FDIC insurance. In fact, I would argue that what they

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Speaker 1: should have done with strength and the postal banking system,

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Speaker 1: which was a public banking system that everybody liked very

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Speaker 1: much because it was so secure, and they were pulling

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Speaker 1: their money out as the commercial banks and putting it

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Speaker 1: in the postal service. But what Roosevelt did instead was

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Speaker 1: to grant FDIC insurance, which meant that we the people

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Speaker 1: are guaranteeing our own money in private banks, but the

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Speaker 1: bankers are getting the profits. So that's not going to

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Speaker 1: happen again because we now have FDIC protection. But the

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Speaker 1: FDIC itself only has a certain limited amount of money

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Speaker 1: to cover I think ten trillion in deposits or six trillion,

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Speaker 1: I guess is what's actually covered by FDIC insurance. They

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Speaker 1: can borrow from the Federal Reserve. They have a credit

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Speaker 1: line with the Federal Reserve, so and which goes to

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Speaker 1: five hundred billion. But you can imagine that if it

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Speaker 1: ever came to that, they would probably increase the credit line,

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Speaker 1: and the Fed can make all the money it needs to.

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Speaker 1: So the banks aren't unsafe in that respect. The way

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Speaker 1: that they're really unsafe is that they gamble in or

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Speaker 1: they've got interlocking derivatives with some very risky players like

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Speaker 1: Deutsche Bank at the moment and some banks that are

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Speaker 1: right on the edge that so they've got all these

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Speaker 1: cross bets going in the derivatives market, which is really

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Speaker 1: just gambling, and so the banks themselves could if the

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Speaker 1: banks go down, then it's like a big domino effect

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Speaker 1: where one bank will go down and then another I'll

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Speaker 1: go down, and hedge funds will go down and you know,

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Speaker 1: big business, what a mess? Right, Yeah, so you could

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Speaker 1: definitely have another big crash, and many people are predicting that.

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Speaker 1: How many people think ellen that the Federal Reserve is

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Speaker 1: attached to the US government and not a private banking institution. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think more and more people are coming to realize

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Speaker 1: that it's definitely got a private element. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: could argue both ways. It's the federalies are board is government.

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Speaker 1: It's selected by the President and Congress. But the federalis

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Speaker 1: are banks. They're ten banks that make up the Federal Reserve,

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Speaker 1: and they are one hundred percent owned by the banks

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Speaker 1: in their district. And the banks actually get a dividend

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Speaker 1: on their or get interesting, I guess called the dividend,

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Speaker 1: but it's six percent they get annually on their investment.

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Speaker 1: Not bad when we get less than one percent, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what in terms of countries with banking systems, is there

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Speaker 1: one that stands out as one of the best. Is

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Speaker 1: it Switzerland or where is it? I would say China.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying we should copy China and everything,

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Speaker 1: but the Chinese banking city. The Chinese government owns the

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Speaker 1: greater the large majority of their banking assets. And if

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Speaker 1: they want to build something like let's say they want

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Speaker 1: to build high speed rail. They built a thousand miles

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Speaker 1: of high speed rail in ten years, and all they

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Speaker 1: have to do is borrow from one of their own banks.

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Speaker 1: The bank then creates the money on its books, as

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Speaker 1: all banks do when they make a loan. Theoretically, that

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Speaker 1: loans supposed to be paid back, and it will be

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Speaker 1: paid back if it's something like railroads that are earning

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Speaker 1: assets to be paid back from the proceeds of the

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Speaker 1: thing that's invested in. But the way the Chinese do it,

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Speaker 1: if the thing they invested in, if it's say it's

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Speaker 1: a business, and the business goes bust and can't pay

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Speaker 1: back the loan, they don't put the business into bankruptcy,

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Speaker 1: particularly if it's government owned. What they take it, don't

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Speaker 1: they Well, they don't put the bank into bankruptcy either.

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Speaker 1: They just allow those bad loans to stay there on

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Speaker 1: the books, and because they're the regulators, they can do

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Speaker 1: that and it doesn't actually hurt the economy. People think

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Speaker 1: it would, and we all complain that, oh, they've got

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Speaker 1: all these bad loans and their books and they're going

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Speaker 1: to go bankrupt, But the economy actually needs extra money

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Speaker 1: in it because of the way our money is created.

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Speaker 1: It's created as a loan. The bank doesn't create the interests,

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Speaker 1: they just create the principles. So over like thirty years

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Speaker 1: on a mortgage, you're going to owe twice as much

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Speaker 1: back as was created in the original loan. So there's

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Speaker 1: never enough money in the system in the real economy

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Speaker 1: that produce or consumer economy to pay back the loans

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Speaker 1: that create the money supply in the first place. So

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Speaker 1: you need to get some extra money out there with

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Speaker 1: The way they did in like in Samar ancient Samaria

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Speaker 1: just forgive all the debts and you know, start all

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Speaker 1: over again. I thought they were going to do that

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Speaker 1: do it for us. No, The problem is that now

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Speaker 1: the banks are privately owned and you're not going to

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Speaker 1: get them to agree to that. In summer in Babylon,

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Speaker 1: that banker was the temple and the gods supposedly, you know,

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Speaker 1: the king was the representative of the gods, and the

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Speaker 1: gods owned everything. Who who knows for sure who those

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Speaker 1: might have been. Extraterrestrials maybe, But we can't do that today.

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Speaker 1: But the other alternative is to fill that gap between

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Speaker 1: the available money and the debt with it, to fill

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Speaker 1: it with some extra money. Just create some money and

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Speaker 1: put it out there, and that's why we could and

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Speaker 1: actually need to do something like a universal basic income

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Speaker 1: or all those other things we think we can't afford.

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Speaker 1: We can't afford them. Put some extra money out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can do a computer program and figure

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Speaker 1: out how much how much extra money the economy can handle,

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Speaker 1: and then pump it out there. Don't not as a debt,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't do it. Don't run up your interest tab,

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Speaker 1: which is the way we do it now where the

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Speaker 1: government spends by going further and further into debt, and

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Speaker 1: soon we're going to have be paying a trillion dollars

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Speaker 1: annually just on the interest I think by something like

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. So that's a huge cut for why

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Speaker 1: do we need to pay interest on money that our

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Speaker 1: federal reserve has the power to create in the first place. Ellen,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this too about the coronavirus, because

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Speaker 1: you've looked into so many health related issues. It broke

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Speaker 1: then the other theory. You know, in China, there are

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Speaker 1: now been established by a Chinese study, Chinese researchers that

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Speaker 1: it was a bioweapon, that four proteins had been altered,

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Speaker 1: that it escaped from their lab and that they were

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced it's a bioweapon, But then the question is

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Speaker 1: just because it's such a heavy, heavy, even though it's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily my use a line of research, I just

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Speaker 1: want to know, you know. Aaron Russo made a documentary

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Speaker 1: and he said that Nicholas Rockefeller had befriended him and

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Speaker 1: was trying to enlist him in the CFR and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Council of Foreign Relations. Yeah, yeah, the New World

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Speaker 1: Order Group. And in the course of that he revealed

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Speaker 1: that the plan was to get everybody microchipped. And so

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Speaker 1: you'd be microchipped with your financial information among other things

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Speaker 1: and so and then you'd get rid of there'd be

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Speaker 1: no paper currency or credit cards, but somebody will cut

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Speaker 1: be digital and it would all be you know, imprinted

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Speaker 1: right in your finger. And then they could control people

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Speaker 1: because they can turn off their money. You know, anybody

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Speaker 1: it was that the interviewee was a man who was

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Speaker 1: a high level bureaucrat in the City of London, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, separate from the actual city of London. It's

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Speaker 1: gotten invited by mistake, and it was, you know, it

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Speaker 1: countries into imposing police states. What's wrong with people, Ellen,

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with them? I mean, why do they want

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Speaker 1: And you know, there is evidence that there haven't been

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Speaker 1: there's evidence that. Well, and why is China always the

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. Well, apparently according to these insiders,

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Speaker 1: so the ultimate goal of that set of insiders, who

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Speaker 1: the banking control center, was to actually eliminate half the

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Speaker 1: the planet, and then they could control the other half

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Speaker 1: through these through these implanted chips chips. Yeah. So so

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Speaker 1: then the question is how do you get everybody to

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Speaker 1: accept these chips. Well, obviously a big pandemic where everybody's

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Speaker 1: frightened to death and they're willing to get get the vaccines. Well,

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Speaker 1: we now actually have something called ID twenty twenty, which

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Speaker 1: is a combination of injectable microchips with your with your

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Speaker 1: financial data on it, injected through vaccines, and they're talking

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Speaker 1: know microchip because the chip is like the size of

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Speaker 1: a grain of rice, isn't it. Yeah, And they're actually

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Speaker 1: doing it in Bangladesh right now. And in Austin, Texas

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Speaker 1: where they're the homeless people are they're chipping chipping homeless people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in order to get that's how they can get their welfare.

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Speaker 1: Is they you know, they can prove who they are

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Speaker 1: That that's what that would be the argument. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean it would be it's just hard to envision that.

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