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Speaker 3: I want to dump my boyfriend because he will let

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Speaker 3: me sleep. Roh.

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Speaker 2: She needs her beauty sweep man.

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Speaker 3: I moved into my boyfriend's house he owns it, three

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Speaker 3: weeks ago, and it's been really difficult. We've been fighting constantly,

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Speaker 3: mostly because he doesn't let me sleep.

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Speaker 2: What is he doing?

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Speaker 3: This would piss me of. I work nine to five,

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Speaker 3: so I need to wake up around eight am. He

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Speaker 3: works whenever he wants and does an avicet sleep schedule.

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Speaker 3: I used to go to bed between eleven to eleven

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Speaker 3: thirty PM before living with him. I compromised and pushed

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Speaker 3: it to twelve to twelve thirty am. But there are

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Speaker 3: nights when he doesn't go to bed until four, five, six,

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Speaker 3: or even seven am.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like my room.

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Speaker 3: This is my nightmare. This is my nightmare.

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Speaker 2: Alex's sleep schedule, he's like separate.

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Speaker 3: So John was making dinner at midnight and I was

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Speaker 3: trying to sleep and I could not fall asleep, and

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Speaker 3: I was going a little crazy and he was that

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Speaker 3: was that lasted for thirty minutes. It wasn't even that bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I could not handle this. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: The house has a master bedroom and a guest bedroom.

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Speaker 3: I was initially sleeping in the master, but he would

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Speaker 3: constantly go in and out, disrupting me. When I yelled

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Speaker 3: at him about it, he'd say, give me ten minutes

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Speaker 3: and I'll be in bed. Hours would pass with him

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Speaker 3: still awake, making noise in the kitchen or living room.

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Speaker 3: He told me I could go to sleep without him,

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Speaker 3: but she can't fall asleep.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you're also a light sleeper.

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Speaker 3: I am a light sleeper. Same, I'm a light sleeper.

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Speaker 3: And I think Riley and I are affected in different

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Speaker 3: ways because Sam wakes you up in the morning. Sam

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Speaker 3: so loud, He's so loud, and he doesn't realize it.

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Speaker 2: He's gonnaize it whenever he's in New York. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you that.

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Speaker 3: So, oh my god, they're gonna be so annoyed because

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Speaker 3: it's just so small.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone in the wherever he lives, hopefully they're early

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Speaker 2: risers because he's an early riser.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and so now I'm in the opposite thing

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Speaker 3: of like John's. He's a night owl.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind that.

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Speaker 3: See, that's that's my problem. I don't mind the early rising,

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Speaker 3: but the night owl stuff is hard for me. He

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Speaker 3: claims he needs to access the master bedroom because that's

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Speaker 3: where all his things are. I tried sleeping in the

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Speaker 3: guest room, which doesn't have a lock, but instead of

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Speaker 3: just using the master bedroom, he'd come into the guest

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Speaker 3: room and disrupted my sleep there too.

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Speaker 2: Why I know why? Okay, thank you. I was wanting

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Speaker 2: to say why, so then you couldn't say, well, no

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Speaker 3: Oh that's oh I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you know how you got those like dogs that

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Speaker 2: look over the sheep. Yeah, and they're always making sure

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he is. He just

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Speaker 2: wants to make sure you're good. He wants to make

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Speaker 2: sure you're sleeping good, protected, checking on you.

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Speaker 3: He's standing in the doorway. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: During the workday when I'm not around you, guys, whenever

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Speaker 2: you work, I'm always like making sure, like checking on you.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think he's no good. Then you

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Speaker 3: start donating. I've only been getting five to six and

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Speaker 3: a half hours of sleep for weeks now, and I'm

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Speaker 3: completely exhausted. I feel broken. Honestly, I would move out.

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Speaker 3: You might be able to continue the relationship, but you

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Speaker 3: need to move out. My breaking point yesterday evening I

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Speaker 3: told him I had a doctor's appointment at eight am

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Speaker 3: put a note on the door saying I have to

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Speaker 3: be up early, Please be considerate. I fell asleep around

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Speaker 3: eleven thirty pm with my eyemask on fan for white

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Speaker 3: noise and a sleep podcast playing. Oh my God, I

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Speaker 3: know this this girl is me, but not this girl

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Speaker 3: is me? And you know, you know, like I know

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Speaker 3: for a fact that she wouldn't be doing this if

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Speaker 3: she didn't live with this guy.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

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Speaker 4: You couldn't what Riley, You can listen to all that stuff? No,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't you fallse with Rick and Morty.

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Speaker 3: You literally fall asleep. You told me the one time

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Speaker 3: that we had to sleep in the same room. You

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Speaker 3: told me that you needed the rain noises, and you've

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Speaker 4: Recently you have we have not had the TV on,

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Speaker 4: and you would turn on Rick and Morty so that

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Speaker 2: But now I have white noise automatically from the outside

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Speaker 2: of your street, from the busy road. You can't have

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Speaker 2: the window oven. Also, the windows are plastic, so they're

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Speaker 2: not even glass. Dude, what coming off of? What? Dude?

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Speaker 3: What's sad? Does you really old? Like everything's the worst

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Speaker 3: and it's still better? He came in three times while

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Speaker 3: I was sleeping and woke me up each time. He

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Speaker 3: eyems what this is me? He goes, He goes right

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Speaker 3: in the nose. I begged him every time to let

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Speaker 3: me sleep because I had to wake up early. Come on,

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Speaker 3: I'm breaking up with them right now. Then he started

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Speaker 3: making noise in the hallway, saying he was having eight

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Speaker 3: spicy dancers over and making inappropriate sounds. I told him

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Speaker 3: I'm leaving. I just want to sleep. Why would you

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Speaker 3: let me sleep? And this girl's I know she oh

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Speaker 3: it says I was on my hands and knees on

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Speaker 3: the floor crying. I knew she was crying before she

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Speaker 3: even said that. And he said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I always just playing.

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Speaker 3: I'm a knuckle head. I don't care. You're a single knucklehead.

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Speaker 3: This enrages me.

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Speaker 2: Why are you just getting your rocks off, not letting

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Speaker 2: your girlfriend sleep? Man? I literally hate him, girlfriend leave him.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say physical violence might be the answer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I don't promote a physical violence.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, straight the nose. You

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Speaker 2: have had physical violence?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one time someone was in the room

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Speaker 2: got a little pat on the arm. Happen a while ago.

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Speaker 2: I'll explain it to you, But I don't know. But

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Speaker 2: I think in this scenario, physical violence is permitted.

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Speaker 3: Physical violence. I think that you need to break up

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Speaker 3: with your boyfriend. I promote breaking up with your boyfriend

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Speaker 3: who sucks, because I.

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Speaker 2: Think he just finds it funny that you get to game.

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Speaker 2: It's like an untrained dog. It's a game to him.

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Speaker 3: You don't understand how deeply I resonate with this story,

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Speaker 3: just just because I need sleep, and I get so

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Speaker 3: angry if I don't have sleep, And if someone ever

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Speaker 3: did this to me, I'd hate them for my entire life.

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Speaker 2: If I did this to you, you would definitely hit me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're not my boyfriend, so it's a little

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't promote hitting your your partners.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that unless you have.

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Speaker 3: That's different. That's different. That's when we're like play play

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Speaker 3: hitting each other. Go ahead, you can do it. An

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Speaker 3: It's now one am. I told him I needed to

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Speaker 3: get some sleep and plan to sleep in my car.

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Speaker 3: As I left, he called me saying he was sorry

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Speaker 3: and in bed now, asking me to combat. When I returned,

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Speaker 3: I tried to sleep again, but he came in and

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Speaker 3: started cuddling me and telling me he loved me and apologized.

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Speaker 3: If you love me, leave me alone. I asked him

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Speaker 3: When I went to the bathroom, he followed me there

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Speaker 3: I completely lost it. I went into the bedroom and

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Speaker 3: knocked over the nightstand lamps, breaking one. He pushed me

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Speaker 3: He claimed he couldn't find what. I was scared, so

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Speaker 3: I helped him look for it. He pushed you onto

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 3: It was past two am when we finally went to

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Speaker 3: sleep in the guest room. What just happened? Literally, I

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Speaker 3: literally don't understand what just happened.

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Speaker 2: She's going crazy. He's going crazy. This is what happens

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Speaker 2: with no sleep involved.

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Speaker 3: Literally, he took my side of the bed, so I

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Speaker 3: the morning after. When I woke him up the next morning,

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Speaker 2: This guy is on some substances. I don't believe think

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Speaker 3: I think he cuts the ox that she's having a

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Speaker 3: mental breakdown. I think that Ope is so sleep deprived

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Speaker 2: Move out.

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Speaker 3: I said I didn't, and I offered to help him

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Speaker 3: He decided to stay and look for it, even though

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Speaker 3: selfish individuals I've ever met. I didn't respond. Then he called,

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Speaker 2: What is the story?

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Speaker 3: I went to my appointment, came home and worked from

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Speaker 3: nine to five thirty pm while he slept. What does

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Speaker 3: he do? Genuinely? What does he do?

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Speaker 2: You might do animations for different people and music videos.

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Speaker 3: Just is your roommate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Probably, I'm getting and this is Riley is opie. I'm

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Speaker 3: getting a hotel tonight and looked into moving out this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I feel horrible about throwing his things in the floor,

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Speaker 3: but I can't handle this constant sleep deprivation anymore.

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Speaker 2: And there is an update, folks, Oh my gosh, she

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Speaker 2: definitely moved out.

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Speaker 3: I would hope, so, I would freaking hope. So he sucks,

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Speaker 3: I literally have. My only advice is break up with

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Speaker 3: him if you haven't already.

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Speaker 2: What compels a person to do this to another person?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, especially your partner. Yeah, just like your

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Speaker 3: partner says, hey, I need sleep, and then you actively

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Speaker 3: like it's not even like it's a step beyond and considerate,

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Speaker 3: which is the crazy thing to me, because it's not

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Speaker 3: just I was loud and he kept waking me up.

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Speaker 3: It's I took off your sleep mask and poke like, hey,

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Speaker 3: let's hang out.

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Speaker 2: Let's yeah, when Angie hangs out with me, she sleeps

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Speaker 2: They will never let me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you finally moved in. It's different. You told me

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Speaker 3: The red flags were there.

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Speaker 3: And my intuition was trying to warn me I should

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Speaker 2: Those are long days. I didn't want to move to

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but at least you're you know, in at

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Speaker 2: Where the ace is barely on. That's true.

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Speaker 3: It could be worse. My parents live five hours away.

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Speaker 3: And there is a third update. Ohkie, we really need

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Speaker 2: Yep. Next time, let's pick a guy that volunteers no

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Speaker 3: He goes to sleep before you.

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Speaker 2: He goes to sleep before you, call his mother, siblings,

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Speaker 2: and pass roommates friends. Let's see what kind of person

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Speaker 3: Yeah, moving in after a few months is a big step.

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Speaker 3: I think. Ope kind of saw that as a less

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Speaker 3: it is less than that, but it is. It's still

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Speaker 2: Yep, Casey Roberts, you only sleep for five hours and

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Speaker 2: ten minutes. I've had my whoop? You know? Actually, everyone

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Speaker 2: real quick, sorry, before we go, let's check how much

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Speaker 3: Well, I slept. I fell asleep at like twelve thirty

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Speaker 2: Your average sleep, Like, how many hours of sleep do

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Speaker 3: Usually? I would say around somewhere between six to nine.

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Speaker 2: I'm usually sleeping. It doesn't count time in bed. Time

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Speaker 2: in bed. I'm usually like in bed for like eight

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Speaker 3: Okay, you so you're pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, ideally you're getting about nine but uh.

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Speaker 2: That's wild. Yeah nine hours. You know how long you

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, but you you're like a bit of a

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Speaker 3: Update three. I broke up with my ex yay, and

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Speaker 3: he's been calling and leaving voicemails. He's accused me of

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Speaker 3: as well as a green bag. In quotes, thank goodness

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Speaker 3: you didn't get that code from him, like, thank goodness

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how does bane you into that good good intuition? There?

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Speaker 3: I've never stolen from him, and I was hours away

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Speaker 3: I wasn't. And then I always say, okay, well, sue

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Speaker 3: me prove it. I went to a museum with my

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Speaker 3: people who can verify I was with them. His voicemails

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Speaker 3: include shaing you thought about ending it all on Christmas

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Speaker 3: because I'm a selfish person who left him alone. What

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Speaker 2: I think you.

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Speaker 3: Pull a new girl and you send all of your

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Speaker 3: afraid it will be denied because he is more money

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Speaker 3: I think, don't be afraid to try to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have to protect your piece here Op, and.

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Speaker 3: There are some relevant comments, dude, But what do you think.

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Speaker 2: I think Op needs to be single? I agree the

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, five years is a long time.

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Speaker 2: I think therapy, no, no, no, no, hear me out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we've had two harrible.

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Speaker 2: Mental breaking relationships.

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Speaker 2: If she just focuses on herself for the next five years,

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Speaker 3: I do think like a year or two honestly, five okay,

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Speaker 3: Riley thinks five. I think a year or two working

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Speaker 2: Not saying you can't see people for the next five years,

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Speaker 3: I agree. I was recently. I was recently like going

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Speaker 3: to you. It doesn't mean that you have to go

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Speaker 3: to sleep at the same time, but it is a

441
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Speaker 3: relevant thing, you know.

442
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you gotta wait, gotta I gotta gotta see

443
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Speaker 2: the stars a line, and.

444
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 3: Then they do and everything's great. So oh, pe take

445
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Speaker 3: your time. Wonderful pause twenty six ninety. He's amateur and

446
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 3: reacting poorly to moving in. How old are you two

447
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: and how long have you been dating?

448
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:26,959
Speaker 2: Oh?

449
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 3: P says, I'm thirty two and he's thirty five. We

450
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Speaker 3: have been dating since February twenty twenty four. This was

451
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Speaker 3: the new guy that.

452
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Speaker 2: She I know. But like, when was this written? Was

453
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Speaker 2: it a year?

454
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Speaker 3: Well, they've been dating since February twenty twenty four, so

455
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Speaker 3: it's probably pretty recent.

456
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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I just wish you said months.

457
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Speaker 3: I'm not at her that's true, No, no, no, I get,

458
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Speaker 3: But like that's a good point because when did how

459
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Speaker 3: long have they been dating for them to have moved

460
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Speaker 3: in together?

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

462
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Speaker 4: Well they started dating in February twenty twenty four, Yeah,

463
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Speaker 4: and moved in May twenty twenty four.

464
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Speaker 2: Girl, a couple months? You remember the relationship?

465
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Speaker 3: We're all you? Okay? Five years?

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

467
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Speaker 3: Gem Glamour and Glitter says, what the F did I

468
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Speaker 3: just read? Did you never sleep in his house before

469
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Speaker 3: moving in? I mean we know that she did, and

470
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Speaker 3: he said she said that he let her sleep. Are

471
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Speaker 3: you all you? Requirement? So I moved in with them? Also?

472
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: Such a red flag that he proposed after.

473
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Speaker 2: A couple of months he was fra yoicks, this is

474
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Speaker 2: very dysfunctional.

475
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Speaker 3: Leaf oh, He says, he just bought this house a

476
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Speaker 3: month ago. I slept at his apartment before I moved in.

477
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Speaker 3: If you didn't let me sleep, I would leave and

478
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Speaker 3: go to my own apartment. It wasn't to this degree.

479
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: If I had to work, he would come to bed

480
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Speaker 3: by one am to two am the latest. I don't

481
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Speaker 3: have my own apartment anymore, live alone, live alone for

482
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Speaker 3: five years. He uses increased amounts of booze to sleep. Girl,

483
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Speaker 3: you gotta open your eyes to the red flags that

484
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Speaker 3: are so obvious.

485
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, maybe we're talking about other things rather than

486
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: adult beverages.

487
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: It says booze. I drink socially a few times per month,

488
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 3: and I don't use any other substances. But there is

489
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Speaker 3: a little bit left who this story. Do you have

490
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Speaker 3: any final thoughts?

491
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Speaker 2: I just saw a comment of someone that's going to

492
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Speaker 2: be moving in with their boyfriend and at the six

493
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Speaker 2: month mark, I'm a very strong believer. One year mark

494
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Speaker 2: me personally, I'm probably not gonna move in with my

495
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Speaker 2: significant other until we get married or marriage is in

496
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Speaker 2: the which just like it. That's like a different yeah, yeah, yeah,

497
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Speaker 2: that's that's just me. That's the way I move my life.

498
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Speaker 2: But at least, you know, a year and a half,

499
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Speaker 2: two years, that's probably when.

500
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Speaker 3: I have never been in a situation where I've you know,

501
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: been thinking about moving in. Oh, not yet anyway, But

502
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Speaker 3: I really like living with my roommates. And I don't know, yeah, like,

503
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm personally at the stage in

504
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Speaker 3: life where i'd be like, I want to move in

505
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Speaker 3: with one person alone, and you know, so I think

506
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Speaker 3: it depends. But I do think to your you know,

507
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Speaker 3: one two year mark makes sense. But I guess everyone's

508
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: different everyone, and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

509
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Speaker 3: And I think we can only offer advice that you know,

510
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 3: we would apply to our own lives. Yes, but I

511
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: think everyone has the right to make their own mistakes

512
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: and see if it works out or if it doesn't.

513
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: And everyone like I moved in with my guy after

514
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Speaker 2: two months, thanks lucyp. You guys moved in after seven months.

515
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 2: You guys, do you.

516
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes it like works out great, But.

517
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Speaker 2: We just read the worst of the worst stories and

518
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: we're on super cautious mode. Yeah, we gotta have We're

519
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: gonna pump the brakes as much as we can before

520
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Speaker 2: we pull the trigger on anything.

521
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Speaker 3: And I think if you do decide to move in

522
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Speaker 3: with your partner like earlier, just just be aware of

523
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Speaker 3: the warning signs uh and know that it's gotta be

524
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Speaker 3: hard to move out, you know, like if you guys

525
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: don't work out, it is hard to split.

526
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Speaker 2: Because it's a lot of baggage you're.

527
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Speaker 3: Living with your partner. I have friends who have been

528
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Speaker 3: living with partners and they want to break up and

529
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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, like as I, cause I'm living with

530
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 3: them and it's difficult. Mencia Jones says, you are an

531
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Speaker 3: example of what women should do in these types of

532
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Speaker 3: situations and relationships. This guy was trying to break you

533
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: so you would do whatever he wanted. Too many women

534
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Speaker 3: allow it to happen though the signs are glaring. My

535
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Speaker 3: only complain about your post is why on earth you

536
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: posted here? Do you really think you're the ale in

537
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: the scenario? Opie says, I did. I felt like the

538
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Speaker 3: a hole at the time of this post. I have

539
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Speaker 3: never had a situation where I barged into the bathroom

540
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Speaker 3: while I knew someone was in there, screamed and yelled

541
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Speaker 3: at them while banging on the door, tossed someone's belongings

542
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Speaker 3: off their dresser, broke lamps, and damaged someone else's property

543
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Speaker 3: in their house. Nonetheless, I have never been violent before. Girl,

544
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Speaker 3: you had no sleep. You had no sleep. I know.

545
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Speaker 3: I said most nights over the past three weeks, I

546
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Speaker 3: was sleeping five to six point five hours a night,

547
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Speaker 3: and that's true. I had realistically slept four hours max

548
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Speaker 3: the night before I posted this. I am someone that

549
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 3: needs eight to nine hours. Maybe that's what makes me

550
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Speaker 3: the a hole. But you know what, I'm okay with that,

551
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: And folks, that's the end of that story. You're not

552
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Speaker 3: the ahole, girl, You're sleep deprived.

553
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Speaker 2: Goodness.

554
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Speaker 3: My advice for you is to get some sleep.

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558
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Speaker 2: My boyfriend keeps bringing his friends on our dates.

559
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Speaker 3: These aren't double dates.

560
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: Okay. How we got into this predicament in the first

561
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: place is that my boyfriend just really likes his friend Liam.

562
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Speaker 2: He's like a brother to him, a little bit more

563
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Speaker 2: than brother. Maybe he saved his life once. Hmmm. ET cetera.

564
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: But he's always on our dates. I even brought one

565
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Speaker 2: of my single friends on a date so we could

566
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Speaker 2: double and Liam and her don't date, so that failed.

567
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Speaker 2: I've honestly asked my boyfriend why Liam is always on

568
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Speaker 2: her dates, and he says that Liam is lonely and

569
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Speaker 2: has nobody else and he has no siblings or a girlfriend.

570
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Speaker 3: He has no siblings, he's an only child and he's single.

571
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Speaker 2: Sam Sometimes, well, he'll go, he'll be seeing her go

572
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Speaker 2: and he'll go out and he'll invite me along or

573
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: invite Christian along. Yeah, like that's a day the thing.

574
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Speaker 2: You can go with her alone. You don't have to

575
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Speaker 2: bring a friend.

576
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Speaker 3: You can do it alone. I think you guys could

577
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Speaker 3: totally hang out altogether. But I think there is a

578
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Speaker 3: separation between dates and hangouts, and you need to make

579
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Speaker 3: that separation.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from ad Fluffy twenty six.

581
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Speaker 2: And if you make your own stories, what are the

582
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Speaker 2: rsashi okay stories? I'm supparate. So then my boyfriend kind

583
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: of guilt me because I know this sounds awful. Liam

584
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: is the effing package for guilt.

585
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Speaker 3: Now.

586
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Speaker 2: His mom passed away when he was young, then his dad,

587
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: and then his dad and him don't talk anymore, so

588
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Liam just doesn't have anyone else to talk to. Liam.

589
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: I honestly think my boyfriend is guilt tripping me, and

590
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Speaker 2: I don't think I can do this relationship anymore. If

591
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: nothing changes, I'm leaving. This has gone on for three months.

592
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: I can't be a relationship with you and Liam.

593
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: Like sure, I feel bad for Liam, but I don't

594
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 2: really know him. It's not my problem. It's also not

595
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: just dates movie nights. He's here, going to the mall,

596
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: he's there where he's not. I know the sounds made up.

597
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: I still can't believe it, but it is very much real,

598
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: and I basically just need validation that it's okay to

599
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: break up with my boyfriend over this.

600
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Speaker 3: It's really okay to break up with your boyfriend over

601
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: anything anything.

602
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like anything. You can almost the movie

603
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: wrong so fast.

604
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: No, I think it's it's if you don't want to

605
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: be in a relationship with someone you can decide not to.

606
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: Befriend, takes too much care of his mom, who is

607
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair.

608
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Speaker 3: Yeah, are there silly, stupid reasons that make sound sure?

609
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: But you can break up with your boyfriend for literally

610
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: any reason.

611
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm breaking out my boyfriend because he tastes too good

612
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: of care of me and that freaks me out.

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00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously those are silly. I'm just saying you can

614
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: choose to break up with anyone at any point. There

615
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: is no one that's got to say like doubt stant it. Ah.

616
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Speaker 3: I mean there might be, but there's no one that

617
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Speaker 3: actually that should be saying.

618
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: Sophia is talking about you can exercise your free will. Yeah,

619
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Speaker 2: I'll give you that. Okay, Okay, that's what we're talking about.

620
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Got some relevant comments. FJB p ninety five says, before

621
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Speaker 2: ending it, you're fully validating on doing so based on

622
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: your post. How do you put your foot down? Why

623
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Speaker 2: don't you plan dates and tell him his friend is

624
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: not invited period? Obey says I have, but as I

625
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: said in the post, he always like guilt trips me

626
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: into letting him come. Saying this out loud kind of

627
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: just made me realize he's manipulative.

628
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's going well, well, mom died and he's all.

629
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: Alone and his dad doesn't talk to.

630
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Speaker 3: Me, and his dad doesn't talk to him, and he's

631
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Speaker 3: got no friends and no siblings and no girlfriend and

632
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: nob he's like fine, Okay.

633
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: Sounds like a loser than me. Yeah, that's what you

634
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: should do to sit him with the EMAO. Another commenter says,

635
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: it's okay to break up. You didn't sign up to

636
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: be the third will in your own relationship. He can

637
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: spend as much time with Liam as he wants as

638
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: a single dude. I called my soon to be ex

639
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: boyfriend to meet up. I'm gonna break up with him.

640
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell him the exact reason, honest, And I

641
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: swear if Liam is there, though, Like, I'm not considering

642
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: the possibility of not breaking up with him. It's not

643
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: even just because of Liam, it's because he manipulates me

644
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: into letting Liam come.

645
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Speaker 3: That's crazy. If oh, he's breaking up with her boyfriend

646
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: and Liam is there, she's like, Hi, I'm breaking up

647
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: with you. And also Liam, I can't do this anymore.

648
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Speaker 2: This is wild. Have you seen those memes online where

649
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: this guy like hits up this girl but it's like

650
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: a group shot of three people.

651
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're all yeah.

652
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, what's this other guy doing here? He's like,

653
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm just here to cheer them on.

654
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: You got it, man, Real support don't worry.

655
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's easier than screenshotting because you get to

656
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: see it in real time.

657
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: So true, you got it. Rea says, I'm pretty sure

658
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Speaker 3: Liam is going to be there. I'm pretty sure too

659
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: if I if I were a betting man, it's like

660
00:29:59,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: he can't.

661
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: And I then at that point, yeah, I'm breaking up

662
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: with you because Liam's always around, and he's like, what

663
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: the way, It's like, he's here right now.

664
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: I'm not here. I'm not I'm not even here. I'm

665
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: not even here.

666
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: All right? Update, I broke up with my ex. I'm

667
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: gonna call him Xavier.

668
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: Ooh Xavier.

669
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: Are there any stories about Liam's and Xaviers? Is this

670
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: why she picked these names?

671
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: You should name Harry.

672
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: I went to where we agreed to meet up, and

673
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: guess who he brought with him. You guessed it Liam.

674
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: We all knew.

675
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: I was very annoyed at this point. I told him

676
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: I want to speak with him privately, and he brings

677
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: effing Liam. It's very uncomfortable to break up with someone

678
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: in front of their best friend, but I was too pissed.

679
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: I told him I wanted to speak privately. He said,

680
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: stay in front of Liam.

681
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: Whatever you can say to me. You can say in

682
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: front of Liam and Liam's I'm not even here. I'm

683
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: not even here.

684
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: Eventually, as you get annoyed, say that's it. I don't

685
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: want always here in our private light, on dates everywhere.

686
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: He basically said, remember what I told you about Liam's circumstances,

687
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. His mom died, his dad

688
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: hates him, and no girl will ever talk to him.

689
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: I said, like, I'm sorry, but I don't given f

690
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: about what's going on in Liam's life. Right now. It's

691
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: about you and me breaking up. Meanwhile, Liam's just standing

692
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: there looking confused.

693
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: Liam's like, dude, I told you that in confidence, as

694
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: why are you telling everyone that I no one likes me.

695
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I'll get back to this later. So we're basically getting

696
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: into a fight in this park, and it gets to

697
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: a point where I tell him that he manipulates me

698
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: into punting Liam out of our aids and about everything

699
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: he told me. Liam went through like a brother to Xavier,

700
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: saving Xavier's life, passed away, mom, dad, affdence, no siblings,

701
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: no friends or girlfriend. After this, Xavier looked like he

702
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: got caught or something, and Liam got angry saying like,

703
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: why did you tell her?

704
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: What did you tell her?

705
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh? What did you tell her? Oh?

706
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: I think I think Xavier was lying so that he

707
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: could bring Liam along. Either either two things. Either Liam

708
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: is like, why did you tell her all of that?

709
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: Because that's private? Or he's lying and exaggerating things.

710
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: This is all really funny and really awful at the

711
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: same time. Turns out none of what Xavier told me

712
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: was true.

713
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, dude, what are you talking about? My girlfriend's fine?

714
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: Should have you shouldn't? I guess not everything can be

715
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: said in front of Liam.

716
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Turns Out Liam has fiance, has a real brother and sister,

717
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: his mom as he passed away.

718
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: His mom, I'm just imagining people like your mom's not

719
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: even dead.

720
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: Definitely broke up with Xavier like forty minutes later. Liamdm's me,

721
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: basically saying that Xavier told Liam that I wasn't comfortable

722
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: being alone with Xavier and that he thought I wanted

723
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: him to be on the dates. Sir, what he said

724
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: The reason why he agreed is because his fiance is

725
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: living in Europe to finish up her study abroad program

726
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: and he had nothing else better to do.

727
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: Liam's like, sorry, Xavier told me, your mom passed away,

728
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: he had no one of the friends, like you really

729
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 4: needed more people in your life, and he's like believable.

730
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: So Xavier is just a flat out liar. I broke

731
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: up with him, man, I got lied to.

732
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: What.

733
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: Oh well, this was honestly not a turn of events

734
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: I was expecting. And I have to get it out somewhere.

735
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Speaker 3: Dang man, we.

736
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Speaker 2: Got some relevant comments. A little bit more to add here. Oh,

737
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: I think it like a little update here.

738
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes your boyfriend lies about his best friend and

739
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: his girlfriend about them needing support. I don't that was

740
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: so weird. That's so weird. He's like, yeah, leave so lonely,

741
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: and Liam's like huh, Liam's just standing there like wait, sorry,

742
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: what did you tell her?

743
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think we're about to get an understanding of why. Yeah, Lee,

744
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 2: Xavier always brought Liam around. I think he's That's what

745
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: I really want to know that. I think he's in

746
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: love with him, or he has a secret fantasy about

747
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: being in love with him having a mom just like that.

748
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: Red Bull Ranna says he brought Liam so that he

749
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: would to break up with him. Yeah, Liam was the manipulation.

750
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean, xaviery is clearly manipulative.

751
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: To both people, to all his friends, oh yeah, to

752
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: everyone comments uh Texas French Do says, did he ever

753
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: explain why he did it? Are you still in touch

754
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: with Liam? What is Liam's take on what happened? Op?

755
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: He says he never explained to Liam or me why

756
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: he did it. But if I'm getting from what Liam

757
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: has told me and my own feelings on the matter,

758
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 2: are that he was trying to frame Liam into looking

759
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: like Liam was on dates with me so he can

760
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: show Liam's girlfriend photos or something to break up with

761
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: Liam and his girlfriend.

762
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: Wow, that is a long con. That is a in

763
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: depth the plan.

764
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: Hey, Liam, I gotta do to the bathroom. Can you

765
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: sit beside my girlfriend? Could you actually put your arm

766
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: around her?

767
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: So?

768
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys look so happy?

769
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? Could you just put your arm around her so

770
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: like no one else sucks to her? Okay, cool, I'm

771
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: gonna go over here with the camera. Just ignore me,

772
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: ignore me.

773
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm not even here.

774
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: Hey, could you hold my girlfriend's hand? I gotta go

775
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: to the bathroom real quick. Ignore me, Army, I'm not

776
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: even here. Here's some flowers. Can you hold these and

777
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: then give it to my girlfriend? She gets here, I

778
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: gotta go to the bathroom real quick.

779
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm not even here.

780
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: Oh that's a second runner up. I personally think that

781
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: Xavier just did it for a sick game or something

782
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: as perfect as it would have been for Exavior to

783
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: be attracted the same gender for Liam. Sadly, I don't

784
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: think that that is the case, but who knows. Honestly,

785
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: me and Liam have talked every once in a while

786
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: the past few days, but I'm definitely not friends with him.

787
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure if I can trust him because

788
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about Liam to know that he's

789
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: not a potster himself. Leam was definitely kept into the

790
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: dark about a lot of things, so it's not his

791
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: fault or anything, but I just don't know about the

792
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: friendship I walked into. Based on what Liam said, I

793
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: feel he's baffled. When this topic first came up, he

794
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: said he wouldn't know why Xavier would do something like this,

795
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: but a tiny bit of him is not really surprised.

796
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what he did before that to her

797
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: not being surprised because Liam never really gave me a

798
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: straight answer. But what I could take of it, Liam's

799
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: really curious about Xavier's contentions, that's the end of that story.

800
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 3: I'd be curious too if my best friend was always

801
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 3: bringing me on like their dates, and then I find

802
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: out that they've told their partner that I have no

803
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: mom my dad hates me, I have no siblings, and

804
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: I have no friends. I'd be like, that's weird.

805
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Why'd you do that? That is super weird. What's what's

806
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: going on here? Why do you always need most support?

807
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: If that was the case, my friend always wants to

808
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: be around whenever he's with his girlfriend. PROB, just go

809
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: hang ou with girlfriend. I'm not coming.

810
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be like, you need to go it alone, man.

811
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: And if the reasoning was, oh, my girlfriends this isn't

812
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: comfortable being alone with.

813
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: Me, I'd be like, maybe you guys shouldn't be together.

814
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: He's theres going to lose a friend and a girlfriend

815
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: in the same day.

816
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's done it. It's quick. But we've got

817
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: another story, folks.

818
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three

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Speaker 3: I can't respect him.

822
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Speaker 2: It sounds like we need to build a wall between

823
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Speaker 2: you two.

824
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: My partner twenty eight male and I twenty five female,

825
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: have been together for the last four years, notably long distance.

826
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: For the last two of our relationship up to now.

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00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: We met at the end of a graduate program for

828
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: public law.

829
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I see you public law AKA.

830
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: We were constantly discussing politics and policy impacts on people,

831
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: and you didn't his politics before.

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Speaker 4: Oh no.

833
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Speaker 3: We've been long distance to pursue jobs prior to law

834
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Speaker 3: school and are still completely long distance. I would consider

835
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: us the classic case of opposites attract We laugh at

836
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: all the same jokes and we can banter for hours

837
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: about nothing. It feels like he is the other half

838
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Speaker 3: of my brain. By the way, this comes from ad

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Speaker 3: subpured it so to be very real with y'all, I'm

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Speaker 3: not someone who cares about the physical appearance of my

843
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: partner because I'm more interested in an intellectual connection. So

844
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: he's ugly. He's a three, so he's really ugly. The

845
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: opposite comes from our different political views given the subject

846
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: matter of our graduate program. He told me very early

847
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 3: on that he was a classic conservative. You have never

848
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: got clarification on what he meant by this over the

849
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: last four years and a registered Republican. Okay, so I

850
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: don't even think this man is a classic Republican.

851
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you're probably on the other side of

852
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: that opposites strict I'm confused. Want you guys are in

853
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: a relationship. I am sure you guys can have a

854
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: fun time, but to be.

855
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: The thing is that I feel like usually when you

856
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: have people who are together of different political spectrums, they're

857
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: usually one of them at least is not that invested

858
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: in politics. For them both to be invested in politics

859
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: and still be like, yeah, this is gonna work out

860
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: kind of crazy to me.

861
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: In the politics, man, It's just the way to get

862
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: everyone upset.

863
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: On the other hand, I spent the last election cycle

864
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: campaigning for Democratic candidates, and I've always only known voting blue.

865
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: Oh what are you doing? What is doing?

866
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Speaker 2: What are you guys doing?

867
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

868
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: You know, you guys could be friends.

869
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: You don't have to date this. I genuinely don't understand.

870
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: In the last four years, I have not skipped any

871
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: opportunity to grill them on items of constitutional justice and

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00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: general ethical principles, and I grew to love them over

873
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: the years because I felt like we mutually agreed on

874
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: items of political and social importance. That's the only thing

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Speaker 3: you disagree.

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Speaker 2: On, huh huh.

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Speaker 3: I've always been very America first in the sense that

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Speaker 3: I BELI leave the most an, extending liberty and justice

879
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: for all to everyone, especially immigrants and historically marginalized communities.

880
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: There has been unspoken tension since the twenty twenty four

881
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: election with Trump coming into office. My partner only told

882
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 3: me he voted for Trump at the end of election day,

883
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: nearly three and a half years into multiple discussions at length.

884
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: Even as a self proclaimed socialist, I come from a

885
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: family of Midwestern Libertarians who don't support the current administration.

886
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: Another story, So I can honestly say I understand the

887
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: conservative perspective of many Americans, but most importantly, I am

888
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: intimately familiar with the voices of conservatives and Republicans against Trump.

889
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: I thought my boyfriend was one of those. I was wrong.

890
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: My interpretation of classic Republican would be someone who's anti Trump,

891
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: because that is classic Republican. The ideals don't mess up

892
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: or don't match up. So for him to say I'm

893
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: a classic Republican and then come out this.

894
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Way, I'm more concerned of the he knows. The guy

895
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: knows this is a deal breaker for the real life.

896
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course he does.

897
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: The fact that he's beating around the bush or not

898
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: really staying it out loud, that's something I don't like

899
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: because her kink is debate.

900
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: Recent This is like an episode in Zach and Cody

901
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: where Maddy dates zac Efron's character and he's like Republican,

902
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: she's super liberal and they start fighting about like oil

903
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: or something, and then they start making out this.

904
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Is them, Yeah, that's them. But like, if he's hiding

905
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, he voted for some dudent office,

906
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: what else is held? And even if he isn't hiding anything,

907
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: this is kind of this pattern of things. That's what

908
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't like at all about it.

909
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I think that you guys, it

910
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. He spends every day engaging in conversations

911
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: about how poorly the state of America and the economy

912
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: are going.

913
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: Hey, then what are you doing about it? Are we

914
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: just talking? Are we doing something about it?

915
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: But he refuses to acknowledge his part in voting as president.

916
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

917
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: I guess the cognitive dissonance is really icky to meet girl,

918
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: If like, everyone can do whatever they want. If you

919
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: don't like this and this is a deal breaker for you,

920
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: that's it. If he wants to do that, fine, that's

921
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: his decision. If you don't like it, is it a

922
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: deal breaker? That's the question.

923
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: I'm still confused on what moral grounds because from like,

924
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, a long view out, you know, the left

925
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: and right kind of the values look the same. If

926
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: like I am a if I'm a dictator and I

927
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: look at the left and right values, I'm like, oh,

928
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: those are the same whenever you get in the cheeks.

929
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that I just am confused.

930
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: But what, like, how is this working out?

931
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: If I just think that you guys have very different

932
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: views on things and it, Yeah, I just don't understand

933
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: how you thought this was gonna work when you were

934
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: both really political. That's the thing.

935
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: Well, okay, he are he really political?

936
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: People?

937
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: I think he's really funny.

938
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: He's ugly. It's got to be really funny if you

939
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: really you're ly.

940
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: And if she's mean, most of her comes with their

941
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: eyes closed because she's laughing so hard. She's like, bunny

942
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: dudes could pull anything. Let's just look at the look

943
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: at the beautiful woman.

944
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 3: I have ry handsome fella. What are you talking about?

945
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: And I'm also pretty funny and it helps out.

946
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

947
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: Thank you.

948
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you are very very funny, but you are

949
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 3: very insome. Too bad.

950
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: I don't appreciate it. You're not ugly like this dude.

951
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: Amy Dean says, unless you enjoy bickering, then the relationship

952
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: isn't going to work long term.

953
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would Uh that just hurts my brain.

954
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just like personal like, I think everyone

955
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: has different personal preferences. And my really quick. My grandmother

956
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: is a lifelong Democrat married my grandfather, who is a

957
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: lifelong Republican, and they have been married for many many years.

958
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: They're like in their nineties now. They got married when

959
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: they're in the early twenties. You know, Wow, that's a

960
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: long marriage. They have ten kids. Worked great for them.

961
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: My personal preference, I would want to marry someone who

962
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: is politically aligned with me, and I think it's different

963
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: for everyone. But I don't understand how two people who

964
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: are so politically inclined and wouldn't see that that wouldn't

965
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: work in the longer term.

966
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what bothers me about this? As like something happens

967
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: above them, They're gonna come home and it's gonna affect

968
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: them and their aspects. It's like, I'm think of the

969
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: out of you know, out of the control, and it's like,

970
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: why are we Why are we doing this? Why are

971
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: we putting it up with this?

972
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't know. Why are your guys together?

973
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: Any political discussion has now become a regurgitation of Fox

974
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: News headlines or he's asking if I've seen specific content

975
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 3: from random all Right creators. I feel like I don't

976
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: respect my partner anymore. Politics aside, not being able to

977
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: have backbone and owning up to your belief is sad.

978
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: I can't help but think this man cannot be the

979
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: future father of my children or the man making decisions

980
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: in my name. I guess the question here is do

981
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: I give him a chance to make this work or

982
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: cut my losses? And there are some comments. Just my

983
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: final thought on this, it's it is the politics, aren't like, Oh,

984
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: he's saying politics aside, that's the main issue here. You

985
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 3: both care about politics. At the end, of the day,

986
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: if there is something, even if it's not politics. Let's

987
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: say you like both really care about this is a

988
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: stupid thing, but if you both really care about sports,

989
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: and you guys are on opposite teams and you're like

990
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 3: the type of sports fans who hate other sports.

991
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: You're a Tarhos fan and he's a Duke fan.

992
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and like you're the type people who are like,

993
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: if there's another person, like, if there's another team member,

994
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: I hate them. They suck And that's your take. And

995
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: then you're like, well, we're gonna get a relationship because

996
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: you know we could put that aside, and you know

997
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: you can't. Why would you do that? I that's my point.

998
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: It's like, or can you realize that they're just teams?

999
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: You can live life?

1000
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: But I don't even think it's like, can you realize

1001
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 3: that you have to know your.

1002
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: Self because don't they have careers in law of them? Yeah,

1003
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: you have to.

1004
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: Know yourself and personally that's an important thing for me.

1005
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: And if that's an important thing for her, then know yourself.

1006
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: And if it's not an important thing for you, then

1007
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: that's fine. You can you guys, can you know I

1008
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: have a relationship with someone else.

1009
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: I'm that's my take. I just need a partner that

1010
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: doesn't really care about politects like me.

1011
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, Riley is like less political than me,

1012
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: so has a relationship that is totally different than the

1013
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: one that I would take. I just know yourself. You

1014
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: can disagree about tax policy in the zoning code and

1015
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: have a healthy relationship. Can't have a healthy relationship if

1016
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: you disagree about basic concepts of ethics and reality and this.

1017
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: Serena Adler says, yes, the boyfriend is not the only

1018
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: one deep in the thrall of cognitive dissonance. Oh, he

1019
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: knows who he is and knows what she should do.

1020
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 3: Ice Coffee Drip says, to be very real with y'all,

1021
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm not someone who cares about physical appearance of my

1022
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: partner because I'm more interested in intellectual connection. That's a quote.

1023
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 3: So he's ugly too, Reverend cat Daddy says, I'm passing away.

1024
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: You can't be ugly a bigot and keep your girlfriend.

1025
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 3: Got pick one. But there is a little bit left

1026
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: who this story. I think my final pause is just

1027
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: like if you if there is something that's the deal

1028
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: breaker for you, and something important in your life, regardless

1029
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: of what it is, doesn't have to be politics. Know

1030
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: yourself and know that you want someone who's aligned. That's

1031
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 3: that's my advice.

1032
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: I just think it was really funny how at the

1033
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: beginning she was like, yeah, he's ugly, he's ugly, but

1034
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 4: I don't care about that.

1035
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: And then not only do we completely disagree on politics,

1036
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: but what hurts the most.

1037
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: Is that he just doesn't have a backbone, can't even

1038
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: stand up for himself.

1039
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: That's why I need to break up. Literally, It's like, girl,

1040
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: you guys were doomed from the beginning.

1041
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: So funny, yeah, because like with that case, he didn't

1042
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: tell you about something that happened three and a half

1043
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: years ago that is, you know, pretty important. Listen to you.

1044
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: He couldn't even stand on the thing he was voting for.

1045
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: That's the embarrassing thing for him, for.

1046
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: Him in America. But on top of that, I would

1047
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: be thinking, do I want to marry this man that

1048
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: can't even stand up for what he believes?

1049
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: Exactly? I can honestly say I read every comment and

1050
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: it sucked being forced to recognize the reality of my situation.

1051
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: But I'm very grateful. Like many of you mentioned, I

1052
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 3: think I came here to get validation on a decision

1053
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: I already knew I had to make, but I selfishly

1054
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: or stupidly was grasping on to any straws. This morning,

1055
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: I asked him to call me so we could speak

1056
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: about a relationship. I was direct with him and stating

1057
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: that I don't think our values are mutually compatible, and

1058
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: it's causing me a lot of internal turmoil and stress

1059
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: because I'm constantly trying to justify my beliefs while trying

1060
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: to engage as a partner in his beliefs. He started

1061
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: getting upset with me because he didn't think I emotionally

1062
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: catered to his level of emotional maturity.

1063
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: So he's also not emotionally immature like you are. Yeah,

1064
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: so he's ugly emotionally mature like you are, and you

1065
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: guys have different beliefs in politics. That's a healthy relationship

1066
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: right there.

1067
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: Ye context, I've been in therapy since I was a

1068
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: child due to a criminal event. He started therapy this

1069
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: year at my request. He further explained that he did

1070
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: not feel like I was giving him a chance to

1071
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: make improvements. There are no improvements that can change who

1072
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: you are as a person.

1073
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: I think she just needs someone on her level. I agree,

1074
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: And you guys are fun and should have just stayed

1075
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: as friends.

1076
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: You are fundamentally different people. That's not even a hotache,

1077
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: that's just the truth. After getting reamed by the comments

1078
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: for hours, I was tired and I wished him the

1079
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: best and went no contact on everything. I feel a

1080
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: lot better. Thank you, guys. Might update again, but mainly

1081
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: coming back to say to anyone in a similar situation,

1082
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 3: the shame isn't worth the love you think you'll get.

1083
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: Now, look at this guy side. I think I see

1084
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: where he's coming from. He's got this beautiful girl, beautiful

1085
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: out of his league, and all he has to say

1086
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: is he all he has to all he has to

1087
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: do is not say who we voted for, and he

1088
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: can stay with her. And he's ugly. He probably won't

1089
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: ever get a beautiful woman again. Ugly. I mean, you

1090
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: know what now think about it. Can't blame the guy,

1091
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 2: can't blame the guy.

1092
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: Oh man. But uh, folks, that's the end of that story,

1093
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 3: and we got another one coming.

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00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for refusing it to help

1095
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: my sister?

1096
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: No no context needed.

1097
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: I twenty eight female have been busting my butt for

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00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: years to save my own house. I work in software,

1099
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: so I make a decent amount of money, but still

1100
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: takes forever to build up a good down payment. Meanwhile,

1101
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: my younger sister, twenty five female, is in grad school

1102
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: with barely any credit. Our parents, both in the mid fifties,

1103
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: found a house near them and decided she needs it.

1104
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: They made an offer without telling me, and now the

1105
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: deal goes through if I co sign. The problem. I

1106
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: had no clue they'd do this. Yea, my parents basically

1107
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: dropped the bomb. You have the best credit score, co

1108
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: signed so your sister can get the house.

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00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: No.

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00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: So they also hinted I could chip in for the

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00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: down payment because you've got the money.

1112
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 3: No.

1113
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Fancy Panda, and if

1114
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: you want to your own stories, go to the r

1115
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: sausag Okay stories. I'm subber, so if I co sign,

1116
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: I'll be on the hook if my sister can't pay.

1117
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: She's still in school, has debt and zero backup plan.

1118
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 2: The bankmight also reject my future mortgage application since they

1119
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: see I'm already tied to another loan. But my parents

1120
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: say I'm selfish and forgetting family values my sister's calling

1121
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: me a monster for leaving her stranded, and my mom

1122
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: threatened to cut off any future financial help like wedding

1123
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: money if I don't help right now.

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00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: Does she even have money to offer if they're asking

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00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: you to co sign and you to help provide money,

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00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: I don't think they have money to offer, So, like,

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00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 3: what are they even threatening you with? They've got empty promises? Yeah,

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00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: is there empty threats?

1129
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: So why can't your sister just get an apartment like

1130
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: every other twenty five year old?

1131
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 3: Well, because she has no co signer, that's the problem.

1132
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: Well, they're buying her a house, not she just needs

1133
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 2: to go rent apartment.

1134
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true, but she would also need a

1135
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: co signer properly for the apartment. Great, because her credit

1136
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: sucks and she needs to figure that out herself.

1137
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: Some relatives thinks it's insane my parents try to rope

1138
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: me into this after they already made the offer. Others

1139
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: say I should just do it for the family's sake.

1140
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: I feel guilty, but also mad they put me in

1141
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: the spot.

1142
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: Don't put your credit on the line.

1143
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for protecting my own finances?

1144
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: Or are they wrong for strong army me into co

1145
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: signing a mortgage I never wanted in the first place.

1146
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: I don't think you're the a hole.

1147
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 3: I do not think you're the a hole.

1148
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, you gotta look out for number one.

1149
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you, absolutely.

1150
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: And probably your dog because I know you want that

1151
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: backyard for him.

1152
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1153
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: We got to edit. I'm actually adopted LMAO. Forgot to

1154
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 2: mention in my confused and angry.

1155
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: State, is that why they want to take your money?

1156
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: Is that why they adopted you.

1157
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like, okay, oh Pete, we gotta get

1158
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: you into the ring. You are to become the best

1159
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: boxer there ever was, or they get so much money

1160
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 3: off you.

1161
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 2: It's it's bad. It's bad. You know what if they're

1162
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: like these like white parents and they adopted a Chinese kid,

1163
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, they're gonna like be really smart

1164
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: with computers. We're gonna adopt them and like take them

1165
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: for money. And then if he's like, oh shoot.

1166
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: Oh shoot, my parents are fraces, my parents are racist,

1167
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: and they just want to used me for my money. Yeah,

1168
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: that's a possibility.

1169
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: That's probably That's what through my head. My parents adopted

1170
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: me when I was very young because they've been struggling

1171
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: to conceive a few years later, they and my younger

1172
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: sister naturally, which was a huge deal to them since

1173
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: she was their miracle baby. Ever since, it's felt like

1174
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: my role in the family became the older adopted one

1175
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: while she was the golden child who could do no wrong.

1176
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: Growing up, I was expected to pitch in more, be

1177
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: more responsible, and genuinely look out for my sister. I

1178
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: worked my butt off in school, snag scholarships, and even

1179
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: landed a good job in software. All the while, I

1180
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: felt like my family mostly saw me as the fallback

1181
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: option in case no one needed financial or emotional support.

1182
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: Oh man, they were like, yeah, we got this other kid.

1183
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: We just use them for finances.

1184
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: Though yours it's like the piggy bank.

1185
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a child.

1186
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: You're the piggy bank.

1187
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: They really did invest in you.

1188
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: They did. Now I'm actually building my own life, saving

1189
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: for a house, focusing on my career, I'm realizing how

1190
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: my success just makes me look like a bigger piggy

1191
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: bank to my parents. The more independent I become, the

1192
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: clearer it is that I need to separate myself from

1193
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: the constant guilt trips, and the unspoken expectation that always

1194
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: have to bail them or my sister out. I love them,

1195
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: but I can't keep sacrificing my own future to maintain

1196
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: a dynamic where I'm never the priority. So thank you

1197
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: all for the wake up call. You're welcome update. Here's

1198
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: where I'm at. I'm absolutely not signing my sister's mortgage.

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00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 3: Good.

1200
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not pitching in for any down payment. Even better,

1201
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: this whole thing was the final push I needed to

1202
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: realize how messed up our family dynamic is and has

1203
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: been for ages. I mean, I've always known it was bad.

1204
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: Having them basically trying to volunteer me and my finances

1205
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: without even asking, just cross the line. I can't ignore anymore.

1206
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, O peeing good on you. They

1207
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: your family sex.

1208
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm done. I've decided to get to I'm already in

1209
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: the process of dropping any financial entanglements we may have,

1210
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: cutting off shared accounts, making sure they can't use my

1211
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: information for anything, and basically scrubbing them from my finances.

1212
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: My job lets me work remotely, so I'm planning to

1213
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: move out of state soon.

1214
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, hope he's like I need to get as far

1215
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: away from these people as possible, Otherwise they're going to

1216
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: try and steal my money. Yeah, and I would not

1217
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: put it past them.

1218
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: Might already be using your social.

1219
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: Security numbers, using your identity.

1220
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: That was always in the back of my mind, but

1221
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: now it feels urgent. I need space, distance, and a

1222
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: real shot of the normal life without the constant guilt trips.

1223
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm also lucking down my credit, freezing it, changing passwords everything.

1224
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: I'm not taking any chances that someone might try to

1225
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: open a line of credit in my name. I've seen

1226
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: horror stories and I'm not about to call them one.

1227
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna finish it all right. Thankfully, I'm not alone

1228
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: with this at all. My close friends have been incredible.

1229
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 2: They're basically my real family at this point, helping me pack,

1230
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: offering me a place to stay if I need it,

1231
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: reminding me. But I'm not crazy for wanting to protect

1232
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: my future. They've been the biggest source of support, and

1233
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm honestly so grateful to have them in my corner.

1234
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's it. I'm not signing, I'm leaving. I'm done.

1235
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: My family wants to blow up at me for abandoning them,

1236
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: so be it. I've got to look out for myself,

1237
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: my credit and am I sanity. Here's hoping things only

1238
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: get better from here. Everyone who commented their two cents

1239
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: are amazing people, and I thank you all for your

1240
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: support while I'm doing with this, truly thank you.

1241
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: And there you go.

1242
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: Ah, that's I mean good. I knew Op was gonna

1243
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: have it whenever she that you know, got a good

1244
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: job in software, she was definitely gonna handle this well.

1245
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you the fact that you have

1246
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 3: the finances and stuff is very it's very obvious that

1247
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: you know how to handle it and you know what's

1248
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: a good idea and what's a bad idea in terms

1249
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 3: of money, uh and your financials. So yeah, this is

1250
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: clearly don't ever you know, co sign on like it's

1251
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: clearly yeah.

1252
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: They're clearly a trap.

1253
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 3: Clearly a trap, bad idea.

1254
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,520
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