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Speaker 1: be very, very interested to watch this all shake out.

427
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: Now he's got a trade back and worst case scenario

428
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: like he's if he does get it takes two to tango.

429
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: So if he wasn't able to trade out, then it

430
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: becomes like, are you gonna draft Jalen Carter? And I

431
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: don't think he would. I think they would take Willie Anderson.

432
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: But ideally, when you're gonna roll with the quarterback and

433
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: you have as many needs as they do, and you

434
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: made a deal that I think you would like a

435
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: read you on with a Chase Claypool, that they gotta

436
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: find a way to meet at minimum if they trade

437
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: back several spots to get an extra one and an

438
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: extra two. If they could do that and flipplop this year,

439
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: they'd be in pretty good shape because they get a

440
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: lot of holes. Roster isn't very good and in a

441
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: weird way, and I know this is not the way

442
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: teams think. Sucking again isn't the worst thing, because there

443
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: are two really really good quarterbacks in next year's draft.

444
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: But the Bears got a long way to go. And

445
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: this is these next couple of months. You know, we'll

446
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: go a long way in defining the Ryan Poles Matt

447
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Eberflew's era. Calvin Ridley learned a valuable lesson that all

448
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: of us gamblers have learned. Parlays are hard. You know,

449
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: you don't win many of them. Now, the difference is

450
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: most of us that make parlay bets are not in

451
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: National Football League, and we don't get suspended for a season.

452
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: But what's cool is Calvin Ridley if like, of all

453
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: the teams that really kind of need him, the Jags

454
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: would be that team that makes them immediately very interesting.

455
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: I think we had the Bills, the Bengals, and the

456
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs as just like lock twelve thirteen win teams moving forward.

457
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: If Calvin Ridley is good, we might just be looking

458
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: at because their offense could be so much better, have

459
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: another solid draft, the Jags might just be a lock

460
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: playoff team for the next several years in that division,

461
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: especially with Tennessee. We'll get into here in a second.

462
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: But Calvin Ridley, if he's eighty ninety percent of what

463
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Speaker 1: he once was with the Falcons, I mean the Jags

464
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: could be pretty good, I mean really good on offense.

465
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: You had Ridley to go with Christian Kirk who had

466
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: a really good season. They franchise Evan Ingraham, they had

467
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: another back to go with ETN Trevor Lawrence takes another

468
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: step pretty interesting offense to go. Doug Peterson super Bowl champ,

469
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: calling the plays no big deal. Tony Pollard a lot

470
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: like lot like Josh Jacobs that these deals are just

471
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: so easy to make. There is no better feeling than

472
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: franchising a guy who you don't really want to give

473
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: a long term deal for and not having to pay

474
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: that much money, so to give whatever it is ten

475
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: point five million dollars two Pollard and not be tied.

476
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: And the difference between Pollard and Jacobs is part had

477
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: a pretty serious injury in the last game of the season.

478
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: Didn't he shatter his ankle or his leg got bent

479
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: back over, which you know is not ideal. He's gonna

480
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: be out, you know, who knows. Hopefully he's ready to

481
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: go by training camp, but that is Would they even

482
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: have done a long term deal with him to begin with,

483
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Probably not. Maybe they would have been more inclined if

484
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: he was healthy, But it's right move. Tony Pollard's a

485
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: really good player to me. If he's healthy, you could

486
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: easily cut Zeke. I know Jerry's infatuated with Zeke. It's

487
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, it's not two and eighteen. I was

488
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: a huge Zeke fan when he was a younger player.

489
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: Do it all back, run between the tackles, run outside

490
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: the tackles, catch the ball, block He was a stut

491
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: that's a long time ago. Like he's just he's not

492
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: very good. I would move on from Zeke draft a

493
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: running back to go along with Fallard. One interesting story

494
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: today that it's just a pretty eye opening headline. Then

495
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: when you kind of dive into it, New GM obviously

496
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: they're just getting rid of a lot of people on

497
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: this roster. Derrick Henry is available. You look at his contract,

498
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: basically the last year of his contract, he's making ten

499
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: million dollars this year a little over. I think it's

500
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: like ten five and his cap hit his sixteen million dollars.

501
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: He's not going to be on the team after this season.

502
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: They're not going to give him a contract extension. Still

503
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: was pretty damn good last year to me these last

504
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: three or four years, Like, he's a Hall of Fame

505
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: level player. He's twenty nine years old. I think a

506
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: lot of teams would definitely just take him in a

507
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: one year situation at you know, relatively cheap money. The

508
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: question is what do I have to give up to

509
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: get him? Like does it make for the Titans to

510
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: just give him away to get him off the books

511
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: for a fifth round pick, Because if I'm a team,

512
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: I gladly do it. I think the Titans would rather

513
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: get a second day pick. Let's say a third round pick. Well,

514
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: if I'm a team in a draft that consistently yields

515
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: starting running backs, I mean, Derrick Henry was a second

516
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: round pick. So I have shown over and over and

517
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: over that I can find guys in the third, fourth,

518
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: fifth round that can become my starter who are way

519
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: cheaper than sixteen million dollars cap pick. That's what I

520
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: think you balanced though, if he's if you still think

521
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: he has a year or two left, you know, for

522
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. I think about that because he

523
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: is still a guy that can carry you, not just

524
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: for games, but like for a month. You know, he

525
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: can have a month where he runs for seven hundred

526
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: and eighty yards in averages one hundred and seventy five

527
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: yards a game. I don't know if that math works

528
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: depending on how many games you play, but you know

529
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, fucking muster love Derrick Henry. Like when

530
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: he's rolling, there is not a more fun player to watch.

531
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Speaker 1: What makes him so unique for being this big, enormous,

532
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: one of the biggest running backs, the biggest running back

533
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: of my lifetime, is that he's not like lower his

534
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: shoulder and run you over, and he's not some elusive,

535
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: shady McCoy, Barry Sanders guy, but he can make you

536
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: miss because his feet are incredible. His top end speed

537
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: when it gets rolling, no one ever catches him. And

538
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: he's got one of the best stip arms in the

539
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: history of the league. So he is a violent player,

540
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: but not in the sense that I went to a

541
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: Titans ota one time and you stand next to him,

542
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: You're like, this guy looks like a defensive lineman. But

543
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: he doesn't play violently in the sense that linebacker on him.

544
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: He lowers his shoulder and he runs guys over. He

545
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: really tries to run around you. He's so great with

546
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: angles and because he knows how fast he is. And

547
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: then those you know, those long arms with stip arms.

548
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got some of the most legendary stip

549
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: arms of his generation. I mean, he's just Josh Norman.

550
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: I think he's got him twice. He's got several other players,

551
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: and he Titans fans knows. If I was a Titans fan,

552
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to get rid of him. I'd want

553
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: another year with him. If they do trade, I think

554
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: it kind of shows you that they're waving the white

555
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: flag on this team, and then they're just kind of

556
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: blowing it up, starting over. Maybe they want to bottom

557
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: out and then try to get one of these quarterbacks

558
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: next year. I don't know, but this is always the

559
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: time where new administrations come in, some new blood comes in,

560
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Coaches want to pivot, you get away from some older

561
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: players making some money. The Vikings Eric Kendricks, who when

562
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: I was at Fresno State, I think in two thousand

563
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: and eight, Eric Kendricks played high school football at Hoover

564
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: High School, which was right across the street basically, and

565
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: his brother was already at Cow obviously a really good player.

566
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: But when Eric was coming out of high school, you know,

567
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: we were kind of interested in listen. I didn't really

568
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: know what I was doing. I remember watching him thinking

569
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: like this guy that good, and then he eventually got

570
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: an offer from UCLA, went to UCLA, had a fantastic

571
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: career there, ended up getting drafted in the second round.

572
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Has had a fantastic NFL career. That was a whiff

573
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: by your boy as a college recruit, or not that

574
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: it was my call or anything. I just remember watching

575
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the high school tape thinking he wasn't that good, and

576
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: now he's cut. This is the nature thirty thirty one,

577
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: thirty two year old guys who make a lot of money,

578
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, they get released. Now. I think the question is,

579
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: when we saw this last year with Bobby Wagner, is

580
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: how good is he still? Because I saw PFF had

581
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: him read like the eighty nine best linebacker. He's always

582
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: been a really athletic guy, three down linebacker. I just

583
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: vividly remember him just making so many tackles in the

584
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: in the peak of kind of that Zimmer defense. But

585
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL, man you get to like thirty thirty

586
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: one at most positions, a lot of guys just fall

587
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: off the cliff. So it'll be very interesting to see

588
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: his market. Is he a guy that signs immediately or

589
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: is he a guy that you know it takes a

590
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: little time. You know, he he's made a lot of cash,

591
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: He's had a lot of success. I've always really enjoyed

592
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: him in the NFL. But you know, I don't know,

593
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: this is just the nature of the Beast, and that

594
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: defense clearly needs to get a lot better. The RAMS,

595
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate their mindset as an organization like I will

596
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: always be fond of and be drawn to aggressive people,

597
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: aggressive organizations, the aggressive mindset always cool with it. I

598
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: also like I'm a little bit more like as a

599
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: stock trader, I've always been a little more long term.

600
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: As a human being, I've always been pretty good at

601
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: being patient in an aggressive way, right, Like not everything

602
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: can just happen at the snap of the fingers, and

603
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm an impatient human being. But it feels like the

604
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Rams sometimes, like they get really excited about something and

605
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: they go all in and then they regret it immediately,

606
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Like it was like, oh, Alan Robinson, what a splash,

607
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: And everyone had always thought Alan Robinson's been getting screwed

608
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: on the Bears forever because Trubisky sucks. Wait till he

609
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: gets a real quarterback. Then he got a real quarterback,

610
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: went to the Rams and he was awful, and the

611
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Rams of regretted it, and now they've allowed him to

612
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: seek a trade. Like again, the Rams process netted them

613
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl a couple of years ago. But let's

614
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: be honest, it's been a little Herculey jerky. And this

615
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: is a classic like what are we doing? Did you

616
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: really just sour on him that much? Because in theory,

617
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: if you do, you just think he sucks, because if

618
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: if you still thought, like listen, last year was a

619
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: weird year. You get him back with Cup to go

620
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald, Stafford comes back, You draft some players

621
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: in the mid rounds and you try to be a

622
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: competitive playoff team. Again, look at the NFC, it sucks.

623
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: They clearly you grant this guy to make a trade.

624
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't care about his cap number. You don't think

625
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: he's any good or you don't think he can be

626
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: successful for you. So the Rams we have to acknowledge.

627
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: And this, listen, this is Sean who if you read

628
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: that athletic article, was like ready to jump off a

629
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: bridge last year when they had a little rough patch.

630
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: Like this is the NFL, Sean, You're not gonna win

631
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: twelve games every year. Some years just suck. You know,

632
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: Google and he reads history. He makes the playoffs eighty

633
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: percent of the years, but he's had some rough years.

634
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: It's football, you know. Sometimes guys get hurt, sometimes shit

635
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: doesn't fall your way. And it feels like he specifically

636
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: and listen, I get it. Us millennials, man, we're used

637
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: to instant gratification. We're Internet age babies, you know, streamers.

638
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: We've been a part of it all twenty years. We

639
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: have the Internet in our lives. We are not willing

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Speaker 1: to see the you know, the long term aspect on

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. But in football, you can't just

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Speaker 1: pivot every single year. And it kind of feels like

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Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. Last but not least the Niners

644
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Speaker 1: reports out of the combine. We're interested in Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: Now brock Purty his elbow injury, that's you know, taken

646
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Speaker 1: some time to heal because the doctor for the Texas

647
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Speaker 1: Rangers it's gonna do the elbow surgery, saw it and

648
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Speaker 1: saw there was still some inflammation, wanted to wait. Now

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Speaker 1: that he's gonna get it on Friday, we'll find out

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Speaker 1: Friday if it's the six month injury and that injury

651
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Speaker 1: he can start throwing in three months. Where's Tommy John

652
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Speaker 1: He's basically out for the season now. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that would. No, I think it would because if

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Speaker 1: he's ready in six months and they think he's going

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Speaker 1: to be healthy, brock Purty would be their starting quarterback. Now,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean and that's not going to you know,

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Speaker 1: have them resist signing a veteran quarterback. They're gonna do

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Speaker 1: that no matter what. But I do think if he

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Speaker 1: was out for the season. Their approach to a veteran

660
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Speaker 1: quarterback would be a lot different because there's a chance

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Speaker 1: that veteran quarterback might have to be the starter if

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance can't get it done. And there were some

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Speaker 1: rumors about them being interested in Baker Mayfield. I think

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's a guy, but Baker Mayfield would make some sense,

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Speaker 1: right started a lot has been in this scheme before

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Speaker 1: and has just started a lot of games. And that's

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Speaker 1: one thing. Last year when the season started, before Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo decided to come back, they were basically Brock Purty,

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Speaker 1: Nate Sudfeld, and Trey Lance, and it worked out pretty

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Speaker 1: well because they ended up in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: But that was a pretty risk key way to go

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Speaker 1: about it, and they got a little lucky. Jimmy Garoppolo's

673
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Speaker 1: market was shitty because you know, the injury, and they

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Speaker 1: couldn't trade him and they just got him back for

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Speaker 1: six and a half a million dollars. That's clearly not

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Speaker 1: going to happen this year. Jimmy's gone. They've even admitted it,

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Speaker 1: and this be fascinating to see where Jimmy goes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the Middlecoff mail back, this is how

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Speaker 1: we do it. Dms at John Middlecoff Instagram. Fire in

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Speaker 1: those dms, give it a follow if you want posts

681
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Speaker 1: a lot of content up there. Try to be consistent

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Speaker 1: and mainly use it for dms and for the show.

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Speaker 1: So ad John Middlecoff is my name? Firing those dms.

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Speaker 1: Gave a question answers here on the show. Caleb, long

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Speaker 1: time listener, first time DMR Titans fan. Our quarterback room

686
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Speaker 1: is a mess. Tannehill isn't gonna win a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and Willis looks like he's several years away from being

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Speaker 1: several years away. With the Jags coming on strong with

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Speaker 1: the elite young quarterback. What are your thoughts about trading

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, cutting Tannehill and acquiring draft capital and basically

691
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Speaker 1: tanking for Caleb Williams or Drake may don't hate it.

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Speaker 1: If it was the NBA, it would be the move.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem you have Mike vrabel, so his floor

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Speaker 1: as a coach is so high. I think it'd be

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Speaker 1: impossible for you not to win more than like five games. Now,

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Speaker 1: this would be the way if he was cool with

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Speaker 1: starting Malik Willis every single game. Assuming he's staying healthy

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Speaker 1: for seventeen games, you guys would lose a lot. So

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Speaker 1: that would be a way, and it'd be an easy

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Speaker 1: way for Mike to be like, listen, we're gonna see

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Speaker 1: if we got anything in this guy, because last year

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00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: didn't look promising. I just think as a true blooded

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Speaker 1: football guy and just an old school badass Mffer, I

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Speaker 1: think he'd have a hard time doing it. Now. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you just make the team so shitty that it'd be hard,

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Speaker 1: But I think he's good enough, like you would give Belichick.

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Speaker 1: If you gave Belichick the Chicago Bears this year, they

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Speaker 1: just wouldn't end up with a first pick. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying Vrabel's Belichick, but he's pretty damn good. I

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Speaker 1: mean pretty damn good. So I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: see it. I really don't because of your coach, John,

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Speaker 1: it's not probable, but imagine Lamar on the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: They were shooting for a player like him with Lance,

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Speaker 1: but it hasn't worked out. Weapons Galore been a Lamar

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Speaker 1: fan since I went to University of Louisville. When he

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Speaker 1: won the Heisman, I'd love for him to stay with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. I don't think the Falcons have the all

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Speaker 1: around support the Ravens provide. Would love your thoughts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, by the time you're listening to this, we

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Speaker 1: will probably have some clarity. It's gonna We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some clarity by the end of the day Tuesday. On

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Speaker 1: the way they franchise tag him, all signs point to

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Speaker 1: the non exclusive basically letting him shop his offer the

724
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Speaker 1: Niners clearly is not happening. They don't even have the

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Speaker 1: capability one of paying him in two of trading for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it does feel like he's done, but in

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Speaker 1: these situations, hell, it felt like Rogers was done last

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Speaker 1: year and he was back. So I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know anyone with the Ravens. The people that

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Speaker 1: do feel like they don't even know. Situations definitely gotten

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Speaker 1: kind of weird. I think it's fair to be prepared

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Speaker 1: for everything. I'm prepared for everything. The problem I keep

733
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Speaker 1: getting back to, let's say they trade him for two

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Speaker 1: ones to the Dolphins or the Jets or the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Who's their quarterback? You know, what do they do? They're

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Speaker 1: just cool with playing with a rookie. I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time seeing that. That to me is where I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's just the situation has gotten out of

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Speaker 1: hand a little bit in the sense of there's no

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Speaker 1: you know, perfect solution if you're not willing to pay

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Speaker 1: him what he wants. Saints Fan and Sacramento, I know

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Speaker 1: you dismissed the team as a middling franchise in college

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Speaker 1: focus region, of which the latter is fairly accurate. Here's

744
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Speaker 1: what I listen. I did not dismissed them with Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton and Drew Brees. I dismissed them last year with

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Speaker 1: no quarterback in Dennis Allen. As I said at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, I view them as a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a playoff for butts for the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: Last year, my take was simple. Everyone was picking them

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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and I didn't see it. Who

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Speaker 1: would Jamison Dalton, No way, And what happened obviously not

752
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Speaker 1: even close. They won seven games, even though I guess

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Speaker 1: they were close because the Tampa suck. But they were

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Speaker 1: not good. So I don't dismiss them anymore. I expect

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Speaker 1: them to win ten games, So I am I am

756
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Speaker 1: pro the Saints and I listen when I dismissed them,

757
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Speaker 1: and I got into an argument with someone on Instagram

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Speaker 1: about saying that the Saints were not as big and

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Speaker 1: teams in that area are not as big as the

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Speaker 1: college teams. That is not really a diss. LSU Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Georgia floor the University of Texas, Oklahoma. These teams are

762
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Speaker 1: treated like NFL teams right that they are fucking massive.

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Speaker 1: LSU Alabama Georgia. They operate like an NFL operation. LSU

764
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Speaker 1: just gave a head coach, Brian Kelly makes more money

765
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Speaker 1: than Sean Payton, not necessarily per year, but his overall contract,

766
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly got one hundred million dollars. I mean, LSU

767
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Speaker 1: operates like an NFL team. That ship you saw about

768
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. The LSU would laugh about the treatment

769
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Speaker 1: of players and being cheap. The SEC does not mess

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Speaker 1: around the SEC. Some of these teams spend more money

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Speaker 1: for their players, obviously not necessarily in salary, but just

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Speaker 1: in terms of the treatment around them than NFL teams.

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Speaker 1: So when I dismissed like, I hold LSU in the

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Speaker 1: high SEC teams at an NFL level regard with reverence

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Speaker 1: like nothing but respect, and like I said, I think

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Speaker 1: you guys as the Saints. I'm going to pick the

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Speaker 1: Saints to win the South. I don't know what the

778
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Speaker 1: Panthers could do at quarterback to change that before the season,

779
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: but the Saints are my pick. I think Derek Carr

780
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: is gonna play well next year. Huge Seahawks fan and

781
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: fan base teams set on resigning Gino. This was obviously

782
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Speaker 1: before they signed him. My preference is actually to resign

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Speaker 1: Gino and draft Richardson and let him sit behind for

784
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Speaker 1: a year. Exactly what I said at the top. I

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Speaker 1: think resigning Gino perfectly allows you to go the Patrick

786
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: Mahomes mindset. Allows you to sign or draft someone high,

787
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Speaker 1: redshirt them for a year and put them in position

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Speaker 1: behind a high level guy, high character guy who's currently

789
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Speaker 1: a good player. You know, if Geno Smith could have

790
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Speaker 1: just ninety percent of what he just did, like, you're

791
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: in pretty good shape, clearly a good guy, Clearly people

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00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: like him to meet. Gino Smith is one of the

793
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: cooler stories in the NFL. Right relatively high pick who

794
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: everyone kind of act like he sucked and he just

795
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: kept swinging. You know, I actually think it's a good

796
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: life lesson. You gotta run your own race in life.

797
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: Some guys, not all of our paths are the same,

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00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: whether you're an NFL quarterback, or whether you're a salesman,

799
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: or whether you're a businessman. I mean, like Geno Smith

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Speaker 1: is just a great example of a guy that just

801
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: kept swinging, did it the right way, worked hard, people

802
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: liked them, was well respected in the NFL. Boom got

803
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars guaranteed in his early thirties after making

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00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: like way more in this one contract that he never

805
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: made in his career. Big Geno Smith fan. I appreciate

806
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Speaker 1: your podcast, look forward to every episode, Dolphins fan my

807
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: whole life. Am I the only one that things Bryce

808
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: Young hype is crazy, accuracy, great character, Alabama Nextry Breeze early.

809
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Speaker 1: Similar to what we said about Tua. Is Bryce that

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Speaker 1: much better or does everyone have short memories? Bryce is

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Speaker 1: a much better player than two. I think both guys

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Speaker 1: coming out to me, it's not even close. I think

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Speaker 1: Bryce is. You know, if if I put Bryce at

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Speaker 1: like if we're just was just do an easy scale,

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Speaker 1: you know, out of ten, if like Trevor Lawrence, Andrew Luck,

816
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, those guys are like nine and a half

817
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: tens right the elite prospects. I put Bryce at like

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: seven and a half eight. Really, his only knock is

819
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: his height, character, football smarts, talent, arm, accuracy, instincts, playmaking

820
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: against the best competition, plays the best in the biggest games.

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Speaker 1: You watch that Tennessee game, How fucking awesome the kid was.

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Speaker 1: Even in a loss or Georgia in the National Championship.

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Speaker 1: When his receivers went down, that kid was just throwing strikes.

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Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young is a big time player, big

825
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: time player. I'm a huge Bryce Young fan. If you

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Speaker 1: just watched him for two straight years at the highest

827
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Speaker 1: level in the biggest games with eighty five thousand people

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Speaker 1: watching at night against the SEC teams, everyone's gunning for

829
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Speaker 1: your ass. I thought he'd bawled. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a stud. He's just short. Now, if you're against

831
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Speaker 1: short quarterbacks, I get it. Like my issue with ta

832
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: bad athlete, weak arm, can't move hurt. In college, I

833
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: was not a tah fan at all, So this is

834
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: not playing like Monday Morning quarterback. But I hear you,

835
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Speaker 1: Colts fan, and I found your podcast The Night of

836
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: the Colts Broncos Thursday night game. Lol. Thoughts on Anthony

837
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Speaker 1: Richardson combined performance seems like he's a big piece of

838
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Speaker 1: clay and just needs a crafty coach to put them

839
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Speaker 1: all together. I think Shane Sykin could utilize him like

840
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: he did Hurts in due time. What do you think, Well,

841
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was a much much better college quarterback than

842
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Like Jalen Hurts started Alabama, obviously he was

843
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: where knee or like what Bryce Young or even Ta

844
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: was as a passer, but he kept getting better and

845
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: then he went to Oklahoma and he was pretty damn good,

846
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: very productive college quarterback, but had a lot of room

847
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: for growth. Here's the thing I don't know that much

848
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: about Anthony Richardson. I talked to an executive that was

849
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: in a room when he interviewed, and it's like, you know,

850
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: his backstory. He grew up pretty tough. His situation I

851
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: don't think was ideal as a young guy, like as

852
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: a kid through junior high in high school. He's like, honestly,

853
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: it's amazing that what he's kind of overcame in life

854
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: pretty just raw human being, just based on his upbringing. So,

855
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: like Jalen was Jalen was a serious cat man. I mean,

856
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: Jalen had dad was a coach. He's a focused dude.

857
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean I remember laughing at it, but it actually

858
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: has turned out to ring pretty true when they're like,

859
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: you know you were you coach, you played for coach,

860
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Say what was it like playing for coaches a bit?

861
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: And Jalen was like, yeah, actually I see a lot

862
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: of myself in him. And it's like at first everyone's like, okay,

863
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: give me a break, and then you just watch him.

864
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: It's like, that is one serious cat, not smiling often.

865
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: Well neither just Nick. So I think Anthony Richardson is

866
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: more your prototypical younger guy, just raw as the day

867
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: is long as a human being. And I'm saying that

868
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: in a good way. It's not a bad way. So

869
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm with you, molding Clay. The problem is is like

870
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: where he's starting, So you got a red shirt him,

871
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: but as a Colts team, it's gonna be no one's

872
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna run a red shirt him, Like who's gonna be

873
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback? It was easy, Like ultimately Jalen got

874
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: to sit a little bit, right because you had Carson Wentz.

875
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: Now he ended up taking over for him at the

876
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: end of that season. I think Anthony Richardson would be

877
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: a true true city year. I just think that's very

878
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: hard in the in today's NFL, man, I really do,

879
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: especially when you take a guy really high. I think

880
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: how many guys got drafted in the last couple of

881
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: years and like the second and third round that end

882
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: up starting games. So culture in a weird spot, like

883
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: are they cool with sucking for a year or I'm

884
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: not quite sure on the deal there got to ask

885
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: feel like you're a little harsh on Lamar and him

886
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: being one hundred million apart with the Ravens asking price.

887
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: My point is when you're one hundred million dollars off,

888
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: you're just not going to get a deal done. So

889
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: we just got to acknowledge, like you're not willing to

890
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: do a deal. Now, whether he can get that deal,

891
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: we're about to find out. I'm not acting like he

892
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: potentially can't get that money, but if you're that big

893
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: of a gap, you know, if you're just telling your

894
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: house for two million dollars on the market and I

895
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: come in and offer nine hundred thousand dollars, we ain't

896
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: gonna do a deal together. Like so it's laughable. The

897
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: whole situation to me is laughable. Ravens too, Now I don't.

898
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm more on the Ravens side in the sense of, like,

899
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: I would struggle to pay him two hundred and thirty

900
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. I just would when you factor in injuries,

901
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: when you fast fact, they're in just everything. Now clearly

902
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: if you're willing to, like, ultimately, I would love to

903
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: give him the Kyler Murray contract, but he won't take that.

904
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily blame him because he goes, I'm better

905
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: than Kyler Murray, I'm a better guy, and all that's true.

906
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: But it's just this is a business, and like I

907
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: tend to lean on like is this good business? When

908
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I look at contracts, that's what I think. Is this

909
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: good business? Kyler Murray joke contract, Dak Prescott, you know,

910
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of an overpay, and as Jerry said,

911
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: it limits their ability to build the team, which ultimately,

912
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: of Dak's a top five quarterback wouldn't matter. But as

913
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: we know he's not. He's like the tenth best quarterback.

914
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: And what happens they plateau in early January, Like, so

915
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: I look at this from a dollars and cent standpoint.

916
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: When we talk about when we talk about the contracts, right,

917
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: how much am I paying you? And then what does

918
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: that equate to winning? In the draft, It's like, because

919
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: your contract is so low, even if you're the second pick,

920
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: we don't talk about money with draft picks. It's just

921
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: should I take you where I'm going to take you

922
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: to pick you? When we talk about free agents, it's like, WHOA,

923
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. Someone's gonna give Mike McGlinchey

924
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars if that happens. Like, I'm gonna be

925
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: critical now if you get Mike McGlinchey for nine million

926
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: dollars a year, not as crazy, but how much you

927
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: spend on either your own guy in a contract extension

928
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: or in free agency. I judge you on the money

929
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: as much as the player could. The Ravens, or more

930
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: particularly the Giants, not learn from how Washington handled Kirk Cousins.

931
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: They played hardball and let someone else pay them. I'm

932
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: pretty sure they would like a do over on that decision. See,

933
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they would because they didn't really like them.

934
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Like the Ravens, like Lamar I'd argue

935
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: they should have got ahead of this two years ago

936
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: and they would have been able to sign them, but

937
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: they got so they waited so long, these contracts kind

938
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: of got weird. Like, let's face it, there's not a

939
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: soul listening to this. Right now, they can go. You know,

940
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, that's a great contract. It's a fucking horrendous contract.

941
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: He's not a top five quarterback to begin with, let

942
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: alone what we saw last year, and I'm giving him

943
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: somewhat of a pass. But if he's like the ninth

944
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: best quarterback, like they're screwed. They are screwed. He's got

945
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: to be a star, and I think it's fair to

946
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: say the chances of him ever being a star again

947
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: feel like they've kind of flown away. You know, the

948
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: last time he bawled out was a long long time ago.

949
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: So I just I judge everything on money when we

950
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: talk about these enormous contracts, because this is not baseball.

951
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: There is a salary cap league, and the amount I

952
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: allocate towards you. Like in most businesses, if you acquire someone,

953
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: you've got an unlimited resources, right, there's not like a

954
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: salary cap on well, you spend all your money. It

955
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: might be all the money you have. But the great

956
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: part is you can take out a loan and football

957
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: doesn't work like that. I guess salary cap two hundred

958
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: twenty five million. I gotta build my team within that

959
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: cap for several years. And when I pay people enormous

960
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: amounts of money that they take huge chunks of my

961
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: salary cap. Matt Stafford google his contract the next couple

962
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: of years. It's fucking massive. Tanny Hill is a great example.

963
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: Tanny Hill's average, but his contract is not and it

964
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 1: limits their ability to do anything. Because I got news

965
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: for you. If the Tennessee Titans had a lot of

966
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: cap space, we talk about all these teams where people

967
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: would want to go, A lot of people would want

968
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: to go to Nashville, no state income tax, you know,

969
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: great cool city like, they'd attract people with ease. A

970
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: lot of guys in the league. Where do they play?

971
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: The SEC is SEC country being no brainer? But they

972
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: never have any money because they always do this bad contracts.

973
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Same thing with the Falcons. Falcons are always doing stupid contracts.

974
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: If the Falcons and the Titans had cash, like had

975
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: cap space, they could sign guys no problem. Now, the

976
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: other counter of my argument, most guys that hit free

977
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: agency kind of overrated. But I hear you there's a balance.

978
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: Like this gets back to the Dack thing. I'm kind

979
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: of hard on Dac, but ultimately, the last two years,

980
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: he's making the Cowboys a ton of money. They're winning games,

981
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: they're in the playoffs. You're just not going in a

982
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So it's like, is your goal to make

983
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: a lot of money? Which is important? This is a business.

984
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: So the last two years for the Cowboys was pretty successful.

985
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: They went one and two in the playoffs. You know,

986
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: if they would have gone just one beat the Niners

987
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: last year, beat him again this year and gone three

988
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: and two wouldn't be as bad. But it's like they're

989
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: they're not getting very far. Did I even answer your question?

990
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you rather be in that position? So basically, would

991
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: you rather just be consistently solid with the Cousins, with

992
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: the Dacks, what Daniel Jones might be. I would struggle

993
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: with that, man, I really would, because it's someone that

994
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: follows the forty Niners in the Chiefs pretty closely. Like

995
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: I saw the Alex Smith experience. It's hard to maintain

996
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: that and it has its limitations. And it's here's the

997
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: other thing. It's hard to be good every year, which

998
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: let's use Alex Smith as example. Every year the Chiefs

999
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: were winning ten to twelve games, and then you'd get

1000
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: you're excited for the playoffs, and then it would be

1001
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: a massive, massive letdown because ultimately his ceiling was so

1002
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: limited that to me, I see that in Dak, I

1003
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: see that in Cousins. I think Daniel Jones has a

1004
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: lot of carry over to that as well. I think

1005
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is that guy. It's so predicated on how

1006
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: you build your team. So when those guys are cheap,

1007
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: it's great because you can hype up your team at

1008
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: all these other positions. But when they're not, you become

1009
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: dependent on that individual. It's like, what happens mahomes right,

1010
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm like secretariat? What happens when everyone gets paid? On

1011
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals? Who cares? I got Joe Burrow? What happens

1012
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: when Josh Allen gets paid? Fucking Josh Allen. Now it's

1013
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: not like Da've crushed it in the playoffs. But I'll

1014
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: tell you this, if I was the Bills, I'd feel

1015
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: a lot better. My chances than I would if I

1016
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: was the Cowboys of the Vikings. And if you're listening

1017
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: to this, you'd have to agree because we'd all take

1018
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen over those two guys. So I just think

1019
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: you have to look at it from a business standpoint

1020
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: as much as you do. The player is lamar good.

1021
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: On a given week, he beat anyone's ass. Of course,

1022
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: can he run for two touchdowns and throw for three

1023
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: more and dominate, But like over a four year period,

1024
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: if he's averaging forty eight million dollars a year and

1025
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: the salary cap hits are enormous, it's gonna be it's

1026
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. Is he that good? You know? I

1027
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I would doubt it's I really would, And

1028
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a hater. I root for

1029
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: the guy. I've always liked him. He was a guy

1030
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: that I did not like in college, was kind of

1031
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: iffy on early on, and he won me over. I'm

1032
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: a huge fan. At like the Dak Prescott contract, I

1033
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: would love him for four years, one hundred and sixty.

1034
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: I'd guarantee every penny forty million dollars a year. Do

1035
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: I like him at like fifty a year for five years,

1036
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: guarantee every penny. I just don't. I'm sorry, you know,

1037
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: call me a bad guy. I don't know what to

1038
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: tell you. Have a good week. We will have a

1039
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: big podcast Friday once we get more information on all

1040
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: these franchise tags and everything, and we will talk soon.

1041
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: Audios the volume