Speaker 1: Guess what, folks, Team USA is playing. It turns out
Speaker 1: and we're back and.
Speaker 2: Wells are still flying, and guys are still signing huge
Speaker 2: extensions well into August, and we're discussing all of that
Speaker 2: and more with New York Times writer and authored Soapandeb
Speaker 2: on today's show.
Speaker 1: I'm Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is
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Speaker 3: Curry a three pointer.
Speaker 4: Stop Curry from the Child again. Be honest, what you yes,
Speaker 4: Yes it is.
Speaker 1: We are back back again a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Thoughts didn't sound like it to you guys you know
Speaker 4: at home, didn't realize that we took a week.
Speaker 1: Off, that those were episode earlier.
Speaker 4: But we recorded the Steph Curry one two years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 4: before the were just guessing at what was going to
Speaker 4: be in the document.
Speaker 1: Once we heard there was a development deal, We're like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's just do an episode on what that
Speaker 1: looked like. People really counted them out.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: They really do a boy egg on their face. But
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined today by our guests
Speaker 1: Soap and Dad. Welcome, Soapan, Hey, thanks.
Speaker 5: So much for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate it.
Speaker 5: It's not a great intro.
Speaker 3: You guys like wrought a lot of energy. I gotta
Speaker 3: feel like I feel like I have to like raise
Speaker 3: my raise my no.
Speaker 4: No, right now we rest on the We rest on
Speaker 4: the court like Lebron so like we don't. We were
Speaker 4: barely alive until the mic starts recording and then we
Speaker 4: have to like take it up. So it's very noticeable.
Speaker 3: There's a key and Peel sketch where they I think
Speaker 3: they're partying the breakfast club, you know they and then
Speaker 3: the you know, the red light goes on. They're going crazy,
Speaker 3: and then the commercial break hits and they like take
Speaker 3: out like know they're doing. They totally go.
Speaker 1: Silent and right exactly.
Speaker 3: It's a very very funny sketch.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you're a multiple time author and playwright
Speaker 1: on top of being a basketball fan. How do you
Speaker 1: do it all? So pen?
Speaker 3: You know, I actually get that question quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And okay, never mind, Then never mind. I don't want
Speaker 1: to I only want to ask great questions.
Speaker 4: No, it's not that so how goes It's interesting?
Speaker 5: You know I think about this.
Speaker 3: You know, I used to be a producer for a
Speaker 3: show that nobody watched called Rock Center with Brian Williams,
Speaker 3: and and he had Steve Martin on as a guest,
Speaker 3: and Steve Martin amazing obviously comedian all that stuff, but
Speaker 3: he's also an amazing banjo player, right and and and
Speaker 3: I remember Brian asking him something like, so, how do
Speaker 3: you do both? He's like, well, people are people do
Speaker 3: more than one thing, you know, like and it's like
Speaker 3: it's it's like it's like asking me, like, how do
Speaker 3: you go to the gym, you know, or how do
Speaker 3: you if you play pick up basketball? How do you
Speaker 3: play pick up basketball gym too?
Speaker 1: You know? And outside of work?
Speaker 3: Right And for me, it's just a question of doing
Speaker 3: like I don't view you know, in when I've been
Speaker 3: writing my books or writing you know, creative writing, I've
Speaker 3: never viewed it as work. It's just it's just another
Speaker 3: thing that I do, the same that like I, you know,
Speaker 3: I you know, used to you know, during the pandemic,
Speaker 3: play poker on Zoom with my friends.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like it's just another thing that I don't view
Speaker 3: it as work, if that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, right right right now. Of course, if you do
Speaker 1: view it as work, you will hite it, you know.
Speaker 3: That's when that's when the work day goes from you
Speaker 3: know and whatever, let's say eight hour work day to
Speaker 3: like a twenty four hour workday that starts being overwhelming.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Did you did you have parents that were like, hey,
Speaker 1: do what you love and then you'll never work a
Speaker 1: day in your life or were they Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little more rigid or get that check.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 3: It was My parents even even to this day, don't
Speaker 3: really understand what I do for a living. Yeah, jarted way.
Speaker 3: You know, when I got to the Times, I think
Speaker 3: it was the first time they kind of understood what
Speaker 3: I did for a living. No, I'm Sair and they're
Speaker 3: oh New York Times.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh I heard of that right right right before.
Speaker 1: Not so sure, right, but.
Speaker 3: The others it took it. It took a long time though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And basketball wise, you're you said you were born
Speaker 1: outside of Boston but raised Jersey, which you are a
Speaker 1: C's fan. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up huge Celtics fan. My brother is
Speaker 3: ten years older than me. He got me onto basketball
Speaker 3: and so so there are two reasons I became a
Speaker 3: Celtics fan. One was my brother and the second was
Speaker 3: Antoine Walker was okay, and for whatever.
Speaker 4: Reason, I'm employee number eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really fascinated by Antoine. And so no
Speaker 3: one can say I'm a bandwagon Celtic fan anything, because like, yeah, Celtics,
Speaker 3: they were awful, but I loved watching Antoine play.
Speaker 4: I mean, mL car into the era. Yeah, it was like,
Speaker 4: do you know Roger?
Speaker 3: I think yeah, And then you know they drafted Antoine
Speaker 3: and Walker was just my guy. He was you know,
Speaker 3: he could dunk, he could shoot occasionally, he could.
Speaker 4: He could he.
Speaker 3: Would make them all that often, but he loved shooting it.
Speaker 3: And I just loved the flair. And then you know, people,
Speaker 3: you know, like my favorite Celtics team all time is
Speaker 3: not the one that won a title in two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight. It was the two thousand and two team
Speaker 3: that went to the Eastern Conference Finals, because that was
Speaker 3: when I was a teenager and sports me in the
Speaker 3: world to you at that point, yeah, and for me
Speaker 3: that was I was. I cried when they lost I
Speaker 3: think it was Game six against the Nets. I cried
Speaker 3: what means to you at that time? Yeah, But they
Speaker 3: were not expected to go to even go to the playoffs,
Speaker 3: let alone get to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 5: You know, childhood.
Speaker 4: And so my dad is Jim O'Brien, so he coached Yeah,
Speaker 4: so okay, I swear that is not that bad. I
Speaker 4: know we did that ahead of this conversation.
Speaker 3: But that team, what I remember is, you know, Patino,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of brings in like one of the
Speaker 3: worst eras of Celtics basketball.
Speaker 5: I remember Jim O'Brien.
Speaker 3: I mean, that was one of the first teams that
Speaker 3: that uh shot a bunch of threes and like like
Speaker 3: they're and it was you know, at the time, they
Speaker 3: got so much criticism for that, but for me as
Speaker 3: a viewer was an amazing you know, porn basketball. I
Speaker 3: loved it as my favorite team of all time. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, I was sad when Jim o Jim
Speaker 3: Jim and Danny Inge didn't work things out.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and then that's why I don't really love
Speaker 4: the Celtics as much. Yeah, I wish, I wish I
Speaker 4: had gotten over it because now I'm a Sixers fan
Speaker 4: because that was the last team he coached for.
Speaker 5: And did he leave on bad terms?
Speaker 3: If you don't mind me asking.
Speaker 4: You leave Philly on bad terms?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he was with h he was an assist.
Speaker 3: With beef with like Chris Weber or something there is
Speaker 3: there was something.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. So the first year when he was a
Speaker 4: head coach, that didn't go that well. But then he
Speaker 4: came back was an assistant in the embiid era and
Speaker 4: that was yeah, and that was when I fell in
Speaker 4: love with Joel, with the with the process and with
Speaker 4: this team.
Speaker 1: Was Frank an assistant to them.
Speaker 4: Frank was an assistant with the Celtics and then with
Speaker 4: that team he was Yeah, he was like down the
Speaker 4: bench al ways, but he was he was the tape guy.
Speaker 4: He was the video guy who like you had to
Speaker 4: learn editing software and after every game, you know, Frank
Speaker 4: and this was my dad before. Frank would be up
Speaker 4: after the game editing together every play from that game
Speaker 4: and putting together different looks of all right, like here's
Speaker 4: every time they ran this offense to the left of
Speaker 4: the court. Here's every time they ran this offense to
Speaker 4: the right of the court. Here's every time like we did,
Speaker 4: you know, various permutations. And I really think that was
Speaker 4: also Spolstra's job with the heat coming up. I really
Speaker 4: think that like that number of reps of just like
Speaker 4: seeing basketball that often like Frank Vogel knows exactly what
Speaker 4: you're going to run the second the ball across his
Speaker 4: half court because he's just like seen so many He's
Speaker 4: seen more plays of basketball than anyone I guess his age,
Speaker 4: like now, probably the younger people have been on YouTube
Speaker 4: the whole time. But I really think like being early
Speaker 4: in the tape game helped Vogel and helped my dad
Speaker 4: and Spolstra a lot, because they just got more cuts
Speaker 4: than anyone.
Speaker 5: Jack. I'll tell you a story from last season.
Speaker 3: I was at a Wizard's game and I was I forgot,
Speaker 3: I was writing about something, and I don't remember what
Speaker 3: I was writing about. Maybe it was I think I
Speaker 3: might have been doing a feature on I don't remember
Speaker 3: why anyway, And I'm sitting on media row and I'm
Speaker 3: not obviously not much of a fan anymore, but I'm
Speaker 3: sitting next to Tony Delk yeah nowhere, and I'm listen,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm you know, And I sat next to Tony
Speaker 3: Delk and and and I don't think a lot of
Speaker 3: people at this point. Tony Delk, at this point in
Speaker 3: his life is not like the most recognizable guy ever,
Speaker 3: but for sure like me who that two thousand and
Speaker 3: two team was such a big part of my childhood.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, next t I'm like you, hey, I'm
Speaker 5: so pam and yeah.
Speaker 4: Tony, yeah, Literally, I was like, hey, listen, I don't
Speaker 4: want to make things weird, but like as want.
Speaker 3: Let you know, that two thousand and two team was
Speaker 3: like one of my you know, one of the highlights
Speaker 3: of my childhood.
Speaker 5: It was cool and we just chopped it up.
Speaker 3: For a little bit and it was so cool to
Speaker 3: you know, he was, uh, he's still in touch with
Speaker 3: some of the guys and you know, and it was
Speaker 3: it was it was it was cool to to you know,
Speaker 3: be able to tell him that, you know, yeah, but
Speaker 3: I don't I don't really I genuinely do not care
Speaker 3: about celebrity stuff. I don't really like ever really fanboy,
Speaker 3: It's not something that I'm interested in del tell someone like,
Speaker 3: you know what when I was a young when I
Speaker 3: was a boy, like, yeah, I was you know, when
Speaker 3: the ship still was like like the world to me,
Speaker 3: it was like, you you know, you hitting threes on
Speaker 3: kickoff from antemin Walker was like pretty cool for me,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: One of the stranger he had. I don't think I've
Speaker 4: seen this since and it probably happened before, but his
Speaker 4: shot had pure side spin on it. It. Do you
Speaker 4: remember that Tony Delk's shot had pure it was side spin.
Speaker 4: It might have changed by the time he was in
Speaker 4: the NBA, but when so, my dad was an assistant
Speaker 4: under Patino at uk when they won the title there
Speaker 4: and Delk was their leading scorer and at that time
Speaker 4: his shot just pure side spin and was one of
Speaker 4: the great you know scorers, intruders. And I remember he was.
Speaker 3: In the top five like most random fifty point games
Speaker 3: along with Corey Brewer and like, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah fifty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very rare. I think it a loss too, by
Speaker 3: the way, Yeah, I didn't wake up today expecting to
Speaker 3: spend like ten minutes on the two thousand and two
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics. But I mean, you guys really indulge me.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Well, it's great because it just happens to be. Our
Speaker 1: next segment is about Vitally Potapenko. So yeah, with the
Speaker 1: Ukraine report real quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was studying abroad that year that semester
Speaker 4: and I came back for game one of the NET series.
Speaker 4: I think it was Game one, and they lost and
Speaker 4: then came back. Like basically, I saw every loss in
Speaker 4: the net series and missed missed the two wins. You
Speaker 4: I was the curse.
Speaker 5: You ruined my childhood.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's but you'd be careful. He does take those.
Speaker 1: He does take that on a lot.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a lot of magical thinking. He's he's responsible
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 1: He's responsible for every I think second round exit of
Speaker 1: the Sixers too.
Speaker 4: Actually not because the hat that was supposedly causing the losses.
Speaker 4: Actually I stopped wearing it last season and they still
Speaker 4: lost to the Celtics. Hey, dust that.
Speaker 1: Old thing off. Maybe right back around for the season
Speaker 1: to see what happens. But yeah, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: some some news notes from around the league. I don't know,
Speaker 1: do we mention Jalen Brown signing that five year, four
Speaker 1: million extension since our last record that was last week?
Speaker 1: So yes, this is going to be one of the
Speaker 1: largest contracts in league history, but not to be outdone
Speaker 1: by the Lakers very own Anthony Davis, who agreed to
Speaker 1: the richest annual average in league history with the three year,
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty six million dollar extension with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: So that's money, is I don't even know what these
Speaker 1: numbers mean, but they sound really cool. Yea is like
Speaker 1: sixty million club. Huh oh wait yeah, how does that?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Okay, good good? Yeah.
Speaker 4: Even know Team USA was playing, that's that was kind
Speaker 4: of news to me. The Team USA had a had
Speaker 4: a game against Puerto Rico. But I'm very intrigued by
Speaker 4: this and this, Uh it's I don't think you can
Speaker 4: call it a dream team. It feels like very reasonable.
Speaker 4: It's reasonable dragmatic team.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but like it's still like you're like, this
Speaker 1: is doing like they're doing. They're doing work with this roster,
Speaker 1: but it's not dream level. It's not it doesn't have
Speaker 1: that etherial quality to it.
Speaker 4: Like really good day team. So, I mean it's good,
Speaker 4: like the squad is. I want to ask you, guys,
Speaker 4: how many NBA games do you think this this team
Speaker 4: would win. I think they'd be favored to win the
Speaker 4: East probably and maybe even the West. But uh so
Speaker 4: they're pollo.
Speaker 3: You with with with Jalen Brunson as their top guy.
Speaker 4: They got Paolo Michale, Bridges, Lan Brunton, Anthony Edwards, Halliburton, Hart,
Speaker 4: Jaron Jackson, Junior, Cam Johnson, Walking Bobby Portis Austin Reeves.
Speaker 4: It's just interesting to that awesome that Walker Kessler is
Speaker 4: on the USA. Saw like nothing, not taking anything away,
Speaker 4: but it's just like it feels like we've entered a
Speaker 4: new era.
Speaker 1: Yes, truly, truly. I don't know. I think they would
Speaker 1: easily win. In my mind, I just love I just
Speaker 1: like watching them play. I was like, they look really
Speaker 1: good obviously playing Puerto Rico in like an exhibition match.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think they can get I feel
Speaker 1: like they can get to sixty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd say high fifties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Caliburton is is.
Speaker 1: The truth chef the GM there, Yeah, for sure. But
Speaker 1: I guess let's take this time because man, since we
Speaker 1: got you know, we're in that sort of in between period,
Speaker 1: still looking waiting to see what trades happened. Figure if
Speaker 1: Dame or James Harden ends up moving, we shall see,
Speaker 1: but also time to kind of take a look at
Speaker 1: the you know, the different divisions, and just from our
Speaker 1: the knowledge that we have at the moment, maybe just
Speaker 1: do a little bit of over under predictions here.
Speaker 4: Shah, we got to Vegas like win total over unders, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: So right now let's kick it off. Well, let's take
Speaker 4: a quick break. Oh yeah, we'll come back and we'll
Speaker 4: do some over unders.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: And we're back and FanDuel has told us how many
Speaker 4: wins they think everyone's getting, and I don't know. They're
Speaker 4: being very conservative our top here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh so we're starting in the Atlantic division this episode,
Speaker 1: and well, I think we'll do, you know, go division
Speaker 1: by division per episode. But since we have a Celtics
Speaker 1: fan in the building, it's good to look at the
Speaker 1: Atlantic division. Uh projected. They're saying the Celtics are gonna
Speaker 1: win the fifty four and a half wins. Yeah, per
Speaker 1: their odds.
Speaker 4: Last year they went fifty seven and twenty five. It
Speaker 4: feels light to me. I still feel like they should
Speaker 4: be the favor to be as good as they were
Speaker 4: last year. But I know the Marcus Smart thing has
Speaker 4: Celtics fans nervous. Soapan, how are you feeling about fifty
Speaker 4: four and a half wins?
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't go over that for sure. Okay,
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that they won't go deep in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I just think, you know, you're incorporating a guy like
Speaker 3: kristaph Orzingis, who is he's an unusual player to play
Speaker 3: with right, and he's a very different type of player
Speaker 3: with an injury history.
Speaker 5: And it's not that they lost Marcus.
Speaker 3: Probably also lost grass Grant Williams, who look, he had
Speaker 3: a lot of stress of DMPs and whatnot, but it's
Speaker 3: still he was still significant part of the roster. And
Speaker 3: they haven't really you know, Derek White's going to start
Speaker 3: a point guard for the first time. I think it's
Speaker 3: going to take a while for them to get it together.
Speaker 3: So I could see them having some regular season lolls,
Speaker 3: and they've had They've been a team of regular season
Speaker 3: lolls over the last several years.
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, you're saying lols, lolls, lolls, no
Speaker 4: l u oh okay, sorry, I thought you were saying
Speaker 4: that they did have some lolls when Grant Williams were
Speaker 4: addresses Batman that one time.
Speaker 3: Maybe, So that doesn't mean I don't think they'll get there,
Speaker 3: you know, get it together for the playoffs, but I
Speaker 3: could see the regular season being a little bit more, yeah,
Speaker 3: more of a drag for them than you know expected.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, I was like, I think they could.
Speaker 1: I think they'd be right around fifty four, but just
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't think I could say
Speaker 1: over that, but I don't think much far off from that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were saying, you're predicting fifty four and a
Speaker 4: third wins for that, Yeah, exactly, that's where you think
Speaker 4: they're going to land.
Speaker 1: I first said thirty three and a third because I
Speaker 1: just saw the Naked Gun movie, and then you're like, what,
Speaker 1: that's not how it works, and I'm like, all right, fine,
Speaker 1: fifty four and a third.
Speaker 4: Fine. So the Celtics they have two and a half
Speaker 4: fewer wins. The Sixers they have four and a half
Speaker 4: fewer wins with largely the same like, mainly the same roster.
Speaker 4: I think they're probably assuming Harden is gone or at
Speaker 4: least doing what he does after he asked for trade
Speaker 4: and doesn't get it, which is not play at the
Speaker 4: at the peak of his abilities. Makes sense to me.
Speaker 4: I think Nurse is a great replacement. I think that
Speaker 4: is a net benefit for the playoffs. But again, I
Speaker 4: think there's a probably important to draw a distinction between
Speaker 4: like Doc Rivers is one of the one of the
Speaker 4: great regular season coaches, and so I don't I don't
Speaker 4: think like a coaching change is a net benefit for
Speaker 4: them when it comes to win totals necessarily, So I
Speaker 4: think this is probably like I don't have a strong
Speaker 4: feeling about either of these first two.
Speaker 1: But forty nine and a half would I mean, do
Speaker 1: you how do you think you can? I could that
Speaker 1: slight under under Okay, okay, okay. And then if James
Speaker 1: is I I.
Speaker 3: Mean losing Hearten. I mean, that's a twenty five and
Speaker 3: ten guy.
Speaker 4: You know, curious to him and he's out, He's gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't know if a precedent of
Speaker 3: a player trade and then showing up to play other
Speaker 3: than like Anthony Davis with the Pelicans, and even that
Speaker 3: was like this torture thing. But Harden has a precedent
Speaker 3: of demanding a trade and then either dogging it or
Speaker 3: not showing up to play. So him showing up the
Speaker 3: training camp is probably not a great idea, right, So
Speaker 3: you take him if you take him out, they lost Niang, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they lost a couple other guys, haven't really I think
Speaker 3: that they they signed Patrick Beverley, I think they have
Speaker 3: not replenished any of the depth they lost around Harden
Speaker 3: and Embiid.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they were losing heart.
Speaker 6: So now you're relying on Joel Embiid to hopefully, you know,
Speaker 6: at who has his own injury history, play at the
Speaker 6: same MVP level that he played out last year, and
Speaker 6: I hope that Max he picks up the slack for
Speaker 6: James Harden.
Speaker 3: That's a really for me, I would be, that's a
Speaker 3: lot of ground to make up. To me, I think
Speaker 3: they're gonna be way under I.
Speaker 4: Think way under last season, or way under forty nine
Speaker 4: and a half way under forty nine and.
Speaker 5: A half way under forty nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you think sub five hundred season for them,
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 3: Sub five hundred. No, But you know, I think it
Speaker 3: wouldn't shock me if it was like forty three to
Speaker 3: forty five, to be honest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But then again, I'm also.
Speaker 3: Horrifically wrong on predictions in my career. So a good
Speaker 3: rule of thumb is to listen to what I'm saying
Speaker 3: and then do the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Generally speaking, Yeah, I think a lot of the optimism
Speaker 4: on Harden, and not that there's a lot of optimism,
Speaker 4: but like any optimism that people seem to have on
Speaker 4: Harden coming back is like, yeah, but he went to
Speaker 4: that white party with them, and like they were all
Speaker 4: hanging out and that seems cool, but going to party
Speaker 4: is what James Harden does best. Yeah, so I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: A lot of these players.
Speaker 5: You know, there's the business side.
Speaker 3: And then there's the personal side. It's not like the
Speaker 3: eighties anymore, where you know, Lambier and Bird are coming
Speaker 3: to blows on the streets anymore. Right, It's like it's
Speaker 3: it's it's not that's not the game anymore.
Speaker 5: These guys are.
Speaker 3: Cool with each other when.
Speaker 5: They're not playing the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean literally, I.
Speaker 3: Think there was like the meme yesterday of Kevin Duran
Speaker 3: Draymond Green showing up with the same outfit you know,
Speaker 3: at a game and like and like so, and then
Speaker 3: immediately so they they were spotted together at the at
Speaker 3: the at the party, and then the reporting yesterday literally
Speaker 3: James Harden reiterated his request for a drink. It's like,
Speaker 3: it's like these guys are it's it's a totally different world,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, have we heard anything about on the dame front, Like,
Speaker 4: because I know the NBA like kind of pushed back
Speaker 4: and was like, hey, you can't just say you will
Speaker 4: only play for the heat. Is there any.
Speaker 5: Nonsense that it also again has no light to stand on.
Speaker 4: There's nothing, there's nothing they can do, and they could,
Speaker 4: they could.
Speaker 3: Send sternly awarded memos or whatever, but there's there's zero
Speaker 3: the league. I mean, they can, I guess maybe intervene
Speaker 3: if it's like like they did with the Chris Paul
Speaker 3: trade with the Lakers, you know, but that that would
Speaker 3: be a really stunning thing to do.
Speaker 5: And I don't think they have a light to stand
Speaker 5: on here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, rust the trade, they can do that, everyone is uh.
Speaker 4: I think in this case.
Speaker 3: The Blazers were the ones who made the trade request public,
Speaker 3: not not Dame. Dame's not violating any rules, so there
Speaker 3: was you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everyone, Like you know, I'm quietly hoping
Speaker 4: like maybe we do harden for dam because possibility, But
Speaker 4: it doesn't. It doesn't feel like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks what more likely that like the
Speaker 1: Clippers seem like the team that would end up doing
Speaker 1: some business, right yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Like they have the same colors, so I don't know,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe it could work.
Speaker 1: Like what would you even what would you even like
Speaker 1: to see from a from a deal with the Clippers
Speaker 1: Covington At least you want to see him back.
Speaker 4: Who with a with a oh, you're talking about parting
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, if there's like what, how do you
Speaker 1: make a meal out of that?
Speaker 4: So I'm a little crazy. They have this one guy,
Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard who Hi A lot of people cow high,
Speaker 4: A lot of people have given up on because of
Speaker 4: his injury history. But I am encouraged by the fact
Speaker 4: that he was the best player in the playoffs for
Speaker 4: a single game last year. So I don't know, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm desperate. I would take anything whatever.
Speaker 1: You don't take anything, man, man whoever? Like literally, man? Please?
Speaker 4: All right? So we've gone two unders. It feels like somebody,
Speaker 4: somebody's got to go over then.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well the next team to look at the
Speaker 1: New York Knickerbockers last year forty seven and thirty five.
Speaker 1: This year, they're setting them right around forty four and
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, I'll be topping out. They signed Dante Vincenzo.
Speaker 4: There, I mean, Vegas is under on basically everyone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprised the Kicks aren't getting more love.
Speaker 3: You assume that some of the young talent quickly gets better.
Speaker 3: You assume that brunts in matches brunts and Randall mash
Speaker 3: their production from last year. You assume you see some
Speaker 3: growth from like the Grimes of the World, even you know,
Speaker 3: Dante's a solid signing for them. I don't see any
Speaker 3: reason they take a step backwards. They leap at the
Speaker 3: top of the East or anything like that. But you know,
Speaker 3: I don't see any reason they go backwards either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think forty four. I feel like they they're
Speaker 1: going to be in line with what they did last year,
Speaker 1: at least seems like energetically that's all. It doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like there's a a regression on the cards. But again, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like a very casual Knicks fan and I always
Speaker 1: will root for them passively, So I'm like, come on that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's because of Wu Tang, It's because of the
Speaker 1: North Face Jackets and Timberland Boots. Obviously New Jersey though
Speaker 1: formerly New Jersey now Brooklyn. The Nets year forty five
Speaker 1: and thirty seven. They're projecting now thirty seven and a half.
Speaker 1: They resigned Cam Johnson, they got Lonnie Walker the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter god and Dennis Smith Junior as free agents. But again,
Speaker 1: what I feel like they could do just about as
Speaker 1: well as laste. I don't think they'd fall off too hard.
Speaker 1: But again, I'm this is me with my Rosie tinted
Speaker 1: glasses on.
Speaker 4: I mean, they had that one guy, Kevin Durant for
Speaker 4: a lot of last season, and he's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So that's a guy in the bucket hat from the
Speaker 1: other night. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Is their record after he left? That would be the
Speaker 4: key thing for me to know, because I think that
Speaker 4: I could see them having a small improvement over there,
Speaker 4: like win percentage after Durant left. I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: see it being significant, So I don't I don't see
Speaker 4: them coming close to the last year's win total necessarily,
Speaker 4: but the over under also doesn't have them coming close
Speaker 4: to like they have. They're picking thirty seven and a half.
Speaker 4: Last year they won forty, so I could see them
Speaker 4: like righte it like thirty they were.
Speaker 1: Just under five hundred without Katie Jabari is telling us.
Speaker 4: I think that's about right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll see any excitement for you when you
Speaker 1: when you think about the nets so fain No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 3: You know, I like, look, Mickail Bridges had a great
Speaker 3: you know, showed out when he got to the Nets.
Speaker 3: I just I just think that they're they're just not
Speaker 3: isn't much else there. I like Claxton, you know, I like,
Speaker 3: you know, they have some young talent there, but I
Speaker 3: think that they need know a they'be buyers of the deadline.
Speaker 3: I could see them getting in the race of another star.
Speaker 5: They have the pieces to go get another star. For
Speaker 5: whatever reason.
Speaker 3: Cam Thomas can't seem to get like a permanent role
Speaker 3: in the rotation. But you know, but if this is
Speaker 3: the roster throughout most of the season, I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't even know if they make the playoffs. And I
Speaker 3: like mcail Bridges, you know, and I think he's he's
Speaker 3: a but I don't I don't know how much of
Speaker 3: a number one guy is uh at this point. But
Speaker 3: I I'm you know, I just don't see I don't
Speaker 3: I just don't see them, you know, making any sort
Speaker 3: of splash. Thirty seven wins seems about right to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this next Oneay.
Speaker 4: The way you're you're a description of why you're not
Speaker 4: excited for them about them just got me excited about them.
Speaker 4: So I'm actually I'm on. I'm on for the Nets over.
Speaker 3: The Nets are a very likable team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, They're the exact kind of.
Speaker 3: Team that you know, fun, They're gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Mickel Bridges is a really really likable, you know, fun
Speaker 3: guy to watch play, you know, Cam Thomas on any
Speaker 3: given Nike and like drop fifty. You know, just I
Speaker 3: don't know where that kind of kind of microwaved player.
Speaker 3: I just I just don't know if it's sustainable over
Speaker 3: eighty two games is a long season. It's a long time,
Speaker 3: you know, to to, you know, and then once players scout,
Speaker 3: once other teams scout, you out, et cetera. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just it's just a you know, I just think
Speaker 3: it's hard sustain over full season.
Speaker 4: Bridges like when he when he arrived and was suddenly
Speaker 4: just like absolutely filling it up. It reminded me of
Speaker 4: when Harden left okay See and went to Houston and
Speaker 4: suddenly it was like, oh, whoops, we missed, we missed
Speaker 4: this one. We we And I don't necessarily think he's
Speaker 4: gonna like suddenly be top five offensive player in the league,
Speaker 4: but it's it feels like there's still room for him
Speaker 4: to keep going up. So it'll be interesting to say.
Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say is he's turning twenty seven
Speaker 3: this month, Okay.
Speaker 5: And I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I don't know how much more there is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he should just retire at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think he's hang up. That's right.
Speaker 3: I think we can coverage.
Speaker 1: And I just want to like this next is our
Speaker 1: last one head heading to Toronto last year perfectly even
Speaker 1: down in Toronto forty one forty one, they're projected to
Speaker 1: do thirty six and a half. Now, I really take
Speaker 1: umbradge with this because Grady Dick is on this team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm taking tho over and they're gonna go way go.
Speaker 4: Wow, That's what I'm thinking. Because you don't see them
Speaker 4: losing a single game, you said before we started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I said eighty two and oh baby, we
Speaker 1: already know you've seen the neck on this kid. They're
Speaker 1: not losing a single game. Yea, Yeah, it looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, the thirty six and a half probably seems
Speaker 1: around there. But I really just for my own like
Speaker 1: meme ability of the league, I want to see I
Speaker 1: want to see Grating Dick potentially turn into something not
Speaker 1: just be the kid with the long neck and shiny suit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, purdle I guess I hadn't realized.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Super producer Jabari was saying that Pardal is a big,
Speaker 4: you know, advanced stats guy. People people who pay attention
Speaker 4: to advanced stats really love him, so that that was
Speaker 4: news to me. I'm sure all our listeners already knew that,
Speaker 4: of course, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they got you.
Speaker 5: I mean they lost family yep.
Speaker 3: Uh is heavily involved in trade rumors. Toronto is right
Speaker 3: in that space where they need to make a decision
Speaker 3: of whether they want to be contenders or if they
Speaker 3: want to blow it up. Yeah, they have some pieces
Speaker 3: where they could push the chips in for a star
Speaker 3: if the one becomes available. But if one doesn't, what's
Speaker 3: that team going to do? And do you hold out
Speaker 3: of Siakam? If that's the case, and I don't know that,
Speaker 3: I would be very surprised if Pascal Siakam is a
Speaker 3: is a raptor by march, I just don't ye that
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the sounds coming out of there sounds
Speaker 1: like you're getting moved on. But where too? We shall see. Okay,
Speaker 1: before we take a quick break, I just we should
Speaker 1: just get a couple of our bold predictions and before
Speaker 1: we wrap this scene up in our third act, so
Speaker 1: you know, right before the season starts, Soapina, we'd like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests just to give gives some just
Speaker 1: wild bold predictions, just something really heavy. And I'm just
Speaker 1: for example, you know right now, Scoot Henderson, he just
Speaker 1: not only wants to go down as like the greatest
Speaker 1: point guard to ever play, he wants to get into
Speaker 1: the goat conversation. So we're like, oh, okay, that is
Speaker 1: that's a bold amount of confidt inst from you, sir,
Speaker 1: that we we like that here on this show. But
Speaker 1: for you, what is your absolute boldest prediction, like, don't don't,
Speaker 1: don't get into fact, just just articulate something from the
Speaker 1: heavens for the upcoming NBA season goal bold?
Speaker 3: Oh man, do you guys have one already?
Speaker 1: This is for our guests. This is when we were
Speaker 1: hosting No all.
Speaker 4: Right, I'll tell you my my bold prediction for this
Speaker 4: season is that Webma wins Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 4: That's my big bold.
Speaker 3: I was actually interesting. I was gonna go the opposite stinks.
Speaker 3: I think I think I'm not saying he's gonna have
Speaker 3: a horrible season or anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the guy is young. M he you know,
Speaker 5: my bold.
Speaker 3: Predictions that women Yama is not Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, And I'm not saying.
Speaker 3: That he's not gonna he's not gonna fill up the
Speaker 3: hype or whatever. Yeah, yeah, of course, I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: you know, is still developing. He he's still a teenager,
Speaker 3: you know, only kind of. You know, Lebron James is
Speaker 3: the only player of the last like you know, thirty
Speaker 3: years or whatever that you know, that has come in
Speaker 3: and met that level of hype, right for a moment
Speaker 3: he entered the league. And even then, you know, it's
Speaker 3: not like Lebron's rookie year was without struggles, right, right,
Speaker 3: And so like women Yama, who you know, obviously amazing talent,
Speaker 3: all this stuff, and you know, I'm not taking anything
Speaker 3: away from him, It just might take him a little
Speaker 3: while to get acclimated to the current NBA and the
Speaker 3: way it moves. And plus you're playing eighty two games,
Speaker 3: the schedule, the physical grind, the emotional grind, just you
Speaker 3: know much this might.
Speaker 5: Take a little while.
Speaker 3: He might not be ready to be you know crown, right,
Speaker 3: that's that's games.
Speaker 1: I'll let you know, No toe, I mean to that end,
Speaker 1: so played.
Speaker 4: For the Spurs and Pop Pop Gonna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which which rookies do you feel like I have
Speaker 1: the best chance at Rookie the Year. Oh?
Speaker 3: I love Scoots game, man, I really really like I
Speaker 3: really like Scoots game.
Speaker 7: You know, I just think that it's really really hard
Speaker 7: because NBA draft picks are getting so much kind of
Speaker 7: like there's so much more polished entering the league in
Speaker 7: some ways because they're you know, they're starting to play
Speaker 7: much earlier.
Speaker 3: And but like, you know, the Thompson Twins are really
Speaker 3: interesting to me. But Scoots the guy, I just I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe I'm just buying into the hype a lot,
Speaker 3: you know, just from the what I've been able to
Speaker 3: watch see him play and whatnot, Scoot seems like the
Speaker 3: guy that very seems very NBA ready. I don't mean,
Speaker 3: I don't mean he's gonna like Field Dame Shoes right
Speaker 3: away or anything, but it would not surprise me if
Speaker 3: he had a really surprisingly good rookie year or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my bold prediction the Twins win CO Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year, just like when they went Grand Hill and
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd had to split it. Okay, there we go.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. They awarded to the wrong twin backs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be, so they can't.
Speaker 4: Make it and so the other one fills in and
Speaker 4: then they do like the moment. Yeah, exactly, this is
Speaker 4: doubt fire situation.
Speaker 1: And like last Bolt prediction, soap, what off season moves,
Speaker 1: Which off season moves will actually have the greatest impact
Speaker 1: in your opinion?
Speaker 3: Interesting question because there haven't been many big ones. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean easily, and so to me, it's actually not
Speaker 3: that hard. Quick to me, it's the Porzingis Smart one
Speaker 3: for both sides because in Memphis, Marcus Smart needs to
Speaker 3: play a big role. With Job out for the first
Speaker 3: quarter plus of a season. Yeah, right, that means he's
Speaker 3: got to play a larger offensive role. And Marcus is
Speaker 3: listen amazing, like it was so much fun to watch.
Speaker 3: But when when Marcus kind of ran into trouble is
Speaker 3: when he would have to do too much as an
Speaker 3: offensive player. It wasn't just and so that that that
Speaker 3: could be, you know, so that can be an issue
Speaker 3: from Memphis going forward. And for this, you know, for Zingis,
Speaker 3: you know, he it's a huge change to the way
Speaker 3: the Celtics are going to be on both ends floor.
Speaker 3: You know, Porzingis gives them a rim protector that they
Speaker 3: haven't really had as much of the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: But to me, that's easily the most impactful move of
Speaker 3: the season until Dame gets traded or until Harden gets traded. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even I don't even know what
Speaker 3: the other contenders are for impactfuls Oh yeah, that's I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: that that's probably Yeah, I guess I should probably, but
Speaker 3: like that was almost I'll saying that the Suns were
Speaker 3: already like already kind of had a super team go
Speaker 3: essentially replacing Chris Paul with.
Speaker 5: And that's I want.
Speaker 3: Although you know, uh, I don't see Chris Paul going
Speaker 3: to the Warriors as that big of a deal, not
Speaker 3: because again, I just you know, if he's coming off
Speaker 3: the bench or whatever, like if he's you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know how a big of a role he's gonna
Speaker 3: have there. I just don't see that being as impactful.
Speaker 3: Like the Celtics flip their roster makeup, the poor thing
Speaker 3: can still happen. So I'm gonna go with that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back with the fastest question and answer
Speaker 1: segment in sports podcasting history right after this, and we're
Speaker 1: back here we are and so good to have. But
Speaker 1: you have wandered into the fourth quarter of Matt Boosties,
Speaker 1: which means it's time for the rapid fire segment. Okay,
Speaker 1: the fastest question asked an answer segment in all of
Speaker 1: sports podcasting history. We're gonna ad ask your question. You
Speaker 1: just chest pass it right back. Don't even think, don't
Speaker 1: and don't don't add a bunch of fancy stuff to
Speaker 1: the answers right back. But if jack Rice started yammering
Speaker 1: on and extending you, you have to cut us off
Speaker 1: and keep the segment going. It's actually your responsibility as
Speaker 1: the guest to also keep the segment going in the
Speaker 1: event that the hosts themselves are unable to do their duties.
Speaker 4: You just chased a butterfly into the shootout of the
Speaker 4: Okay corral, let me just put it there.
Speaker 3: Oh thought that be the first question?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow.
Speaker 4: I just like to give you that idea of like
Speaker 4: where who you're running right now?
Speaker 1: Which brother you're going after? Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: I think we're ready to start the clock.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's so mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Jack, it's gotta know. Sometimes I'm starting because
Speaker 1: I care, man, because I want.
Speaker 4: All right, Miles just slapped the court Antoine Walker style
Speaker 4: and that got.
Speaker 1: Blown by just spilled my whiskey and cigar all over
Speaker 1: the floor. Okay, Uh do you want.
Speaker 7: To go first?
Speaker 1: I go first?
Speaker 4: Oh why don't you go first?
Speaker 1: Miles? My good man, I will go first, Thank you, Jack, Jackathan?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yes, Soapan, first question. ESPN recently decided to rework their
Speaker 1: entire NBA crew with Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson. Mama,
Speaker 1: there goes that man off of our screens. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: like going after covering you know, fifteen NBA Finals alongside
Speaker 1: Mike Green. Who is now your dream in game commentary team.
Speaker 1: You can now put that team together? Who are they?
Speaker 4: And you can't say Miles and I because yeah, that's
Speaker 4: contractually and so the league might have said no, stop
Speaker 4: asking us.
Speaker 1: Didn't get a cease and desist for asking.
Speaker 4: That is actually why you can't bring it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry anyway, But for you, Soapan, who is your
Speaker 1: dream commentary team?
Speaker 3: Dream commentary team?
Speaker 5: This is the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: This is this, This is the top and this is
Speaker 3: the top NBA crew just.
Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah, exactly, the highest of the high. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be realistic, but use your taste to
Speaker 1: put together a fantastic crew of commentators.
Speaker 3: Sure, Uh, Roy Wood Junior the Daily Show comedian, Yes,
Speaker 3: former guest on this and uh like like someone someone
Speaker 3: that's like the total kind of totally opposite of him,
Speaker 3: like Bill Burr or something.
Speaker 4: Like Dennis Miller.
Speaker 3: Roy someone that Roy would hate, right right, right, right
Speaker 3: right comedians you know, like like someone that he would
Speaker 3: absolutely just despise.
Speaker 4: They just one of the brothers getting rinsed by Roy wo.
Speaker 1: Just for the passive aggressive to be.
Speaker 3: Just see the angriest broadcast, angriest but most hilarious broadcast.
Speaker 4: All right, right right, Roy Wood Jr. Absolutely needs needs
Speaker 4: a shot in the booth. Yeah, we said dis the
Speaker 4: Mara would be a good answer there. I want I
Speaker 4: want to see Oh yeah, then in the booth. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, give us a team no one is considering
Speaker 4: for title contention this year, but should be in the conversation.
Speaker 5: Should be in the conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I guess I would go with.
Speaker 5: Clippers. Yeah, I'll go Clippers.
Speaker 4: Sure, Clippers.
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, listen, I'm not thinking too hard about this,
Speaker 3: so I'll.
Speaker 4: Go that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it about the Clippers?
Speaker 4: Go On?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm assuming here's the thing. I'm assuming they get
Speaker 3: hardened because the so this always happens, Cardon wants to
Speaker 3: go to the Clippers. The Clippers have no incentive to
Speaker 3: put together a great package because this is the only
Speaker 3: team Harden wants to go to, so no other team,
Speaker 3: so they won't have to give up that much. You know,
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna be like Marcus Morris and like Stevemers,
Speaker 3: you know, Steve Bombers driver.
Speaker 4: Or something, you know, Yeah, for sick though this is sick,
Speaker 4: you're going to really make good use to that driver. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You gotta trust the process there.
Speaker 4: And while we're at it, we might as well give
Speaker 4: him embiid, you know what I'm saying. And so are
Speaker 4: gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but but you gave me someone that's probably
Speaker 3: not gonna be considered it entitled contention who probably should
Speaker 3: be And I think it's it'll be the Clippers.
Speaker 5: That's okay, that's off the top of my head.
Speaker 3: I'm sure if I thought hard, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna cut you off right there so because
Speaker 1: we do have to keep the segment going.
Speaker 4: Was so good, Like I'd recognized the injury is troubling,
Speaker 4: injury history is troubling. He was still so good when
Speaker 4: he was playing last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, next one. Oh yeah, best NBA city
Speaker 1: in terms of food choices and what's your go to
Speaker 1: dish and what's your go to dish?
Speaker 3: New Orleans, that's NBA city for food. Uh, and my
Speaker 3: go to dish is there's a restaurant called Esh, which
Speaker 3: is like an amazing new or restaurant. Okay, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know there's like they have a they have everything there.
Speaker 3: But when we go, we usually get this like whole
Speaker 3: fish there that they have.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: So I'm going I'm going to passion New Orleans. Amazing.
Speaker 5: New Orleans is the best food city.
Speaker 3: And I think in in Frand Bay City.
Speaker 1: He's pash please have us there for a live episode
Speaker 1: or just a meal.
Speaker 4: We're willing to hear offers.
Speaker 1: You can find an eight hundred magazine street New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta cut you off right, so you gotta
Speaker 3: yeh whoa, yeah, yeah, I do just have to add
Speaker 3: I do just have to add brandon Ingram looks like
Speaker 3: a totally different part.
Speaker 4: Like he looks like he's been eating well in New Orleans.
Speaker 4: And I don't mean that like eating well like you know,
Speaker 4: he he looks like he filled out like I was
Speaker 4: always like, he's not going to fill out. He's that's
Speaker 4: his body like, and he's good. He in the USA
Speaker 4: basketball things, I was like, who is that out there
Speaker 4: that looks looking like a slightly short muffle lettuce.
Speaker 1: He's just just pounding them muffle lettuce down there.
Speaker 4: No, but he looks he looks good. All right. If
Speaker 4: you could have any players skill set for a a
Speaker 4: who are you going with? What skills set? Are you
Speaker 4: stealing Jokich easily?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, listen.
Speaker 5: To me, all right.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm not supposed give extant answers. But he
Speaker 3: was the only the only players that I would catch
Speaker 3: every game I went during the season.
Speaker 5: There's something about him.
Speaker 3: That I just, I just I just find his game
Speaker 3: to be very magnetic. And to see a guy of
Speaker 3: that size passing the weight. I love big guys that
Speaker 3: can pass, I really do. And that's my favor you know,
Speaker 3: those are my favorite. That's why I got an Antoine
Speaker 3: Walker in my you know as a child. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: So for me, it's just I love love big guys
Speaker 3: that can pass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately you have only taken his passing skills. You
Speaker 4: haven't taken his height. So uh it's a monkey's pod
Speaker 4: type wis sorry, but you can.
Speaker 1: Still shoot that shot over a D somehow you'll.
Speaker 4: Off right falling away off one.
Speaker 1: That's really just to like just to make just completely
Speaker 1: frustrate people at every pickup game at La Fitness across.
Speaker 4: The count been a higher release in the history, Like
Speaker 4: he releases so high and he's also seven foot whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a tie.
Speaker 1: I mean I just saw Klay Thompson talking about that shot.
Speaker 1: He's like, gods, like, it's like, it's disgusting.
Speaker 4: It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was Okay, here we go, Soapan ultimate peak,
Speaker 1: prime bird or prime KD. You lean back on that one.
Speaker 1: You're thinking, I like this.
Speaker 3: I've never thought about that. I would say prime bird
Speaker 3: because he won the three m vps in a row
Speaker 3: and no one's done that since. Yeah, and I also
Speaker 3: think that Bird, you know he had you know, he
Speaker 3: was a better rebounder and passer, but again, the game
Speaker 3: was so different back then. But I'm going I think
Speaker 3: I'll go with Bird because he did, you know, he
Speaker 3: did something that no one has.
Speaker 5: Done since then, right, And that's that's.
Speaker 3: It's a very arbitrary thing. Like I think Yoka should
Speaker 3: have won three straight. I think, you know, Lebron should
Speaker 3: obviously have won three straight or if not more than
Speaker 3: that some point in his career, Jordan whatever. But given
Speaker 3: that Bird did it, I mean to me, it's it's Bird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Like.
Speaker 3: But that's like, you know, that almost feels unfair to KD.
Speaker 3: But like you know, the the that platitudes are what
Speaker 3: the you know, the platers are what they are, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, all right, you can place any former Celtics
Speaker 4: grade on next year's roster. Which former great are you
Speaker 4: adding to this mix? And you do have to make
Speaker 4: the salaries work.
Speaker 5: I think salaries work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Bird made like forty K a year,
Speaker 4: so you got to make sure that that.
Speaker 1: The luxury attack.
Speaker 5: We're doing it by salary.
Speaker 4: And he got a case of beer too if they
Speaker 4: won the title, So.
Speaker 3: I guess it would be Russell man. I mean, how
Speaker 3: do you I mean, it's an easy I mean It's
Speaker 3: almost like an unfair question ask the Celtics fan because
Speaker 3: there's such like easy hierarchy to choose from. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: guess then you know you're adding Bill Russell. He literally
Speaker 3: fits a knee for the Celtics right now. They need
Speaker 3: a defensive anchor since they lost Marcus Smart like they
Speaker 3: needed so like, of course you're.
Speaker 4: Gonna add Bill Alpha. Yeah, that personality.
Speaker 3: You're bringing Al Horford off the bench. I guess he's
Speaker 3: wanted to let his ego subside for one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is funny. I feel like there's every
Speaker 1: time we've I think, asked this question to Celtics fan,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't think anyone has not said Bill Russell, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's been pretty good. I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And finally, Soap, this is actually the most important question
Speaker 1: I think we've asked of the money one. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh So please be quick with your response to this one, Soapan, Depp,
Speaker 1: Jack or Miles.
Speaker 3: Oh. I have to give it to Jack because of
Speaker 3: his dad. Man, his dad was a big part of
Speaker 3: my childhood. I would take its.
Speaker 1: His dad was a big part of his childhood too.
Speaker 1: So if your dad coached.
Speaker 3: The two thousand and two Celtics. I would have gone
Speaker 3: with you, like.
Speaker 1: Really, he wouldn't even be close to doing that. But
Speaker 1: so and that I can only respect that answer, So fan,
Speaker 1: I can only respect that answer. Man, it is hard
Speaker 1: to hear.
Speaker 4: I mean, everything worked out in this episode. We surprised
Speaker 4: him with it. I knew. I knew he was a
Speaker 4: big two thousand and two Celtics fan, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't let it slip before we recorded so we
Speaker 4: could just like build momentum everything. Yeah, perfectly. You fell
Speaker 4: right into my.
Speaker 1: I the second he mentioned I was like, this guy's
Speaker 1: rubbing his mits. Now he's rubbing.
Speaker 4: Yeah and my family.
Speaker 3: Well, well, Jack, you can pass on to your dad,
Speaker 3: and I hope you do that.
Speaker 5: He I was a big fan of him growing up.
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, I hope you'll pass that on to him.
Speaker 4: Fantastic not my dad, but I did. You can't take
Speaker 4: it back. Yeah, that was all all lie. You fell
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 1: His dad owns like a bunch of subway franchises in
Speaker 1: mon Talk. Wow, no way, my favorite place for somewhere.
Speaker 4: Man a baby?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah for real, for real. So Pandemic, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. On Miles and Jack got
Speaker 1: Mad boosties. Where can people catch your work and all
Speaker 1: that and and and and read you and all all
Speaker 1: any sort connect to you? How do they do that?
Speaker 3: I'm easy to find on social media, man, and I've
Speaker 3: got my books are easy to find. But I appreciate
Speaker 3: the opportunity to plug. But you know, it's just Google.
Speaker 3: I had to be like shack here, but like, just just.
Speaker 1: Googley, Okay, I like that. Just just one name, baby,
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know and and it will appear.
Speaker 4: It's just really nice to finally see nepotism winning. For like,
Speaker 4: if you're an NBA nepotism who stinks at basketball, like,
Speaker 4: it doesn't help that much. So it's just nice to see, Uh,
Speaker 4: you know a place where nepotism can finally win.
Speaker 1: And that place is Miles and Jack got Mad Matt
Speaker 1: stec you know you know that, So make sure you
Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter. You can follow me at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray and Neto. I mean, Jack, where can they
Speaker 1: find you?
Speaker 4: What at NBA Neto Baby on Twitter? Uh? At Jack
Speaker 4: Underscore O'Brien NBA Netle Boy. That's available.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should, you should, or at least your display name,
Speaker 1: and you can also follow the show on hashtag mad
Speaker 1: Boosty's buble O, sd I e S for show links
Speaker 1: and updates. That's gonna do it for us. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be back because you know that's what we do. We're
Speaker 1: always back, We're always there for you, and until then
Speaker 1: will be us the U b U Okay cool.
Speaker 4: I like that lit sign off. Bye.
Speaker 1: You know that's the way to go.