WEBVTT - Healing Cancer: Where Oncology Meets Ayurveda  with Dr. Sam Watts

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<v Speaker 1>If someone is diagnosed with cancer tomorrow, what are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the key messages you'd want them to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the first thing, without exception, always is the

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<v Speaker 2>belief and the hope that you can survive.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam, thank you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 1>So your book is all about the iradic approach to

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<v Speaker 1>healing cancer, it was so much more than that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was something that I think every single person should read

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the deeper connections that they can have to

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<v Speaker 1>their body. What are the foods that people should be

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<v Speaker 1>eating as part of an anti cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Diet, green tea or Matcher. We know in lab tests

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<v Speaker 2>you can put a breast cancer cell, you can drop

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<v Speaker 2>a Matcher molecule onto you will literally see the breast

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<v Speaker 2>cancer cell destruct. Oh my god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think are the main contributors to the

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<v Speaker 1>increase in cancer at the moment?

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<v Speaker 2>It's very clear to see why we are getting iller,

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<v Speaker 2>not just iNTS a cancer, but heart disease, Alzheimer's, because

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<v Speaker 2>we're living in a world and that makes it very

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<v Speaker 2>easy to be sick. Ah, you've read has these two

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<v Speaker 2>parallel treatments where one is yes to destroy cancer. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have to destroy it because it's growing but the

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<v Speaker 2>more powerful avenue is to actually reintellectualize, re educate the

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<v Speaker 2>cancer self.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Radi Davlukiah and on my podcast a Really Good Cry,

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<v Speaker 1>we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space

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<v Speaker 1>for raw, un fielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow

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<v Speaker 1>you to tune in to learn, connect and find comfort together.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam, thank you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's natally privilege. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like fangirling right now because after reading your book

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<v Speaker 1>and hearing you speak, I am obviously such a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of I Vader, but then to see someone be able

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<v Speaker 1>to take something that is so beautiful but also very

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<v Speaker 1>complicated and be able to simplify it and create a

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<v Speaker 1>book which you have that allows it to be accessible

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<v Speaker 1>to so many people in a time that's probably of

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<v Speaker 1>most need to them is phenomenal. So I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say thank you so much for what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so grateful and I'm so excited to share

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<v Speaker 1>this information with as many people as I can that

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real privilege to be here, so thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for having me on. I really appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so fascinating before this, before we turn the

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<v Speaker 1>cameras on, I was asking you about how you came

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<v Speaker 1>across Aravada, and I would love if you could just

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<v Speaker 1>share a little bit of that if you don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>with people, just to give context.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like I was saying, I was very

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<v Speaker 2>very privileged to come to it very early in that

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<v Speaker 2>my family's closest friend, my next door neighbor, but one

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<v Speaker 2>was a seventh generation Sri Lankan conventional doctor, homeopathic doctor

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<v Speaker 2>are Evader. The full frame up really and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>long long family meals around the table exploring the spirituality

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<v Speaker 2>of our evader and the lifestyle of ar Evader, and

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<v Speaker 2>that then leading into asking questions around well what about

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of health and how we live and adopt

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<v Speaker 2>this and moving into that sphere from yet twelve thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>years of age and all the way through really and

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<v Speaker 2>having that learning from someone who's lived and breathed it

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<v Speaker 2>for their whole life and from a very authentic place,

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<v Speaker 2>is a you know, seventh generation custodian of knowledge that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really find in books, you can't find in

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<v Speaker 2>training courses. Ye's something you have to have absorbed through

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<v Speaker 2>a very long period of time, and to have been

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<v Speaker 2>exposed to that from such a young age is something

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm grateful for beyond words really, because it's allowed

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<v Speaker 2>me to do what I'm doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was it about Iveda when you first started

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<v Speaker 1>learning about it, because obviously from a Western perspective, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be a little bit far out. What was it

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<v Speaker 1>about Iravida that made you feel like it was your

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<v Speaker 1>calling or that it felt like the right path.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was the breadth of it that

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<v Speaker 2>I've never come across anything before or since. That impacts

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<v Speaker 2>upon every facet of life. There's not one part, one nuance,

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<v Speaker 2>part of one person that can't be positively impacted upon

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<v Speaker 2>by our evader, whether that's clinically, whether it's in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the spirituality, whether it's in terms of the lifestyle practices,

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<v Speaker 2>the psychology. I think if we're to live fully live lives,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you've read to talk about this idea of

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<v Speaker 2>living in the magic where your life is this unfolding

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<v Speaker 2>of blissful existence. We can always improve that. And the

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<v Speaker 2>more I dived into our Uvada, what I saw was

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<v Speaker 2>a blueprint for actually facilitating there not a shotgun like

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<v Speaker 2>try a bit of this, try and bit of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all there, it was documented, it was time testing,

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<v Speaker 2>it was systematic, and it's it's easy to adopt. I

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<v Speaker 2>think one of the misconceptions about Our Evader is it

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<v Speaker 2>it's so restrictive and so complex. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably how it's been misconstrued in the West, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not is it it's simple, it's it's common censer call. It'salistic.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was that breadth that really grabbed me initially

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted the more you learn, the more you

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<v Speaker 2>want to know, and it just it will you know

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<v Speaker 2>if I live to be one hundred or never get there? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's always more questions to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that When I first came across Ivada, I

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<v Speaker 1>just fell in love with the fact that it helped

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<v Speaker 1>me understand myself better.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was technical, but in a sense of hey, the

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<v Speaker 1>more that you tune in, the more you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>more you can heal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the more that you tune into what's around you,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you can heal. And so it really was

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<v Speaker 1>this guide to life and living and actually being present

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<v Speaker 1>and conscious in the moments around you, whether it's in relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's your relationship to yourself, whether it's your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>to your environment. It's just it's so incredible how it encompasses,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, every single part of this world in

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<v Speaker 1>some way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that's what one of the analogies

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<v Speaker 2>I always give is people always ask me, you know, quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>what is are you've aded, and you could provide, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the standard answer, But the way I always articulate, I

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<v Speaker 2>always think about it, it was almost like a car service manual.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you drive a Ford and you take

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<v Speaker 2>it in for its annual service, which you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do to keep the car in tip top shape. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you take it to a Mercedes garage with the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong manual, you're not going to be going to help

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<v Speaker 2>it. It hasn't got the specific requirements. And that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>think with our bodies. You know, what's great for you

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be great for me. And how

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<v Speaker 2>do we transform our health and optimize our wellbeing and

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<v Speaker 2>our quality of life unless we do things that are

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<v Speaker 2>unique to us as individuals. To the service manual that's

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<v Speaker 2>unique to my body, my metabolism, mine needs, my dreams,

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<v Speaker 2>and that there's never going to be anyone else with

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<v Speaker 2>the same idiosyncrasis as you or I, so we have

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<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge those and take them into account. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our evader is that is the primary blueprint for how

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<v Speaker 2>we customize and individualize every part of us. And that

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<v Speaker 2>power is I think if people understood that power of

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<v Speaker 2>individualized life transformation that are Eveady gives you, people will

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<v Speaker 2>be clamoring down the doors to adopt it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they are. I know it's increasing, but you

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<v Speaker 2>want more and more people to know about it, don't you.

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<v Speaker 1>It also takes a level of wanting to be actively

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<v Speaker 1>participating in your own health. And I think from a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a young age, I speak about this a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think from a young age you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>told to put your health into other people's hands, and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of takes away your power to heal yourself massively,

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<v Speaker 1>for to understand your body. Because as soon as you

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<v Speaker 1>get cold, I'll go to the doctor. As soon as

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<v Speaker 1>you get any even small thing that happens in your body,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of told you're not equipped to handle this,

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<v Speaker 1>so go to somebody else who knows. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>there are professionals, but I think a basic level understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of your own body can help you to prevent and

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<v Speaker 1>heal so much more than we think we're capable of doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Her body is so powerful, just need to exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So. Your book is all about the iratic approach to

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<v Speaker 1>healing cancer, and I was so fascinated by so much

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<v Speaker 1>in it because as much as it was about cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so much more than that. It was something

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<v Speaker 1>that I think every single person should read to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the deeper connections that they can have to their body,

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the energetic abilities of the things around them,

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<v Speaker 1>their thoughts, their actions, how it impacts their body to

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<v Speaker 1>a cellular level. So actually, yes, this is a book

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<v Speaker 1>about cancer, but I would say to anybody listening, it

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<v Speaker 1>is way more than that, and you will get so

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<v Speaker 1>much that you need to learn about your own body

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<v Speaker 1>and your own life that will take you beyond just

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<v Speaker 1>having an illness. In my opinion, and so thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for writing that. It was phenomenal. But I would love

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<v Speaker 1>for you to maybe describe I don't know whether there

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<v Speaker 1>is a simple way of doing this, but in IVEDA,

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<v Speaker 1>how is cancer understood or framed differently to Western medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a lot of similarities, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>the difference is it's the it's the beautiful holistic understanding

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<v Speaker 2>of cancer in that rather than being something that's to

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<v Speaker 2>be identified aggressively destroyed like this warfare, it views it

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<v Speaker 2>through a different lens. And it's something called amcara, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a It's one of the most beautiful concepts in

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<v Speaker 2>our Evader, which is amcara is kind of like cellular intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with what makes an I cell work as

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<v Speaker 2>an I celler not a liver cell, And what makes

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<v Speaker 2>an apple seed only make an apple, not a cucumber.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds silly, but everything organic has to reproduce itself.

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<v Speaker 2>And in our Evader, the cancer journey develops when a

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<v Speaker 2>cell loses it's amcara. And that could be because we've

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<v Speaker 2>been exposed to castnogens, or it could be stress, or

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<v Speaker 2>it could be a genetic predisposition. But when you get

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy sell, you know, every cell in the body,

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<v Speaker 2>every healthy cell and the body has an ancaric message,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I need to die after a certain period

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<v Speaker 2>of time to preserve the health of the host. Every

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<v Speaker 2>cell's sole objective is to keep the body healthy. But

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<v Speaker 2>when a cell becomes pre malignant and then fully malignant,

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<v Speaker 2>it loses that amcara. So rather than viewing itself to

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<v Speaker 2>serve the body, it views itself as a renegade. It's

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<v Speaker 2>working in complete isolation, and it will get to a

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<v Speaker 2>point where, because it's working in isolation, it doesn't see

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<v Speaker 2>itself as working as part of the body an it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of sees that the body hasn't got its back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's isolated, it's scared, it's working as a renegade. So

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<v Speaker 2>the only kind of way it can ensure its own

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<v Speaker 2>survival is to do one thing, which is to replicate.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's at that point the cancer journey begins. And

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<v Speaker 2>what's interesting is lots of Western doctors like Dean Ornish,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Bush, in a very high profile you know, public

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<v Speaker 2>figures in health talk about this idea of a cancer

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<v Speaker 2>cell being a lost, confused, isolated cell and aar you

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<v Speaker 2>Veda has these two parallel treatments where one is yes,

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<v Speaker 2>to destroy cancer cells. You have to destroy it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's growing, it's proliferating. But the more powerful avenue whilst

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing that is to actually reintellectualize, re educate the cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>So that what you're doing is wrong, and if we

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<v Speaker 2>can reawaken ANCARA, you can reprogram that that cellular behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>so a cancer cell can morph back into a normal cell.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I love about that is that if we

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<v Speaker 2>were having this conversation five years ago, there would be people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, coming out of the raft saying, well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>absolute rubbish. Cancer cell can't become a healthy cell. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just Eastern esoteric rubbish. Whereas in the last few years

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<v Speaker 2>there's been numerous clinical trials that have now proven that

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<v Speaker 2>a cancer cell can revert back to normal cell behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what we AMCARA is a clinical replicated model

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<v Speaker 2>of ANCARA. So I love the idea that aaru Veda

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't just view this slash burn cut in a wall

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<v Speaker 2>war fair destruction, destruction. It's about this just holistic reintellectualizing

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<v Speaker 2>of a cancer cell to behave normally, to come back

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<v Speaker 2>into line, to preserve the health of the body, whilst

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time using treatments that will help to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy the established cancer cells. But it's much more holistic,

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<v Speaker 2>it's less violent in terms of the connotations and the language.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the West needs that. I think because

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<v Speaker 2>it's whatever way you cut it, a cancer cell is

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<v Speaker 2>still part of your body. Its still part of you.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to remove it. But do we want that

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<v Speaker 2>warfare raging in us? Because generally speaking, most things that

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<v Speaker 2>come about through violence probably aren't going to be good,

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<v Speaker 2>and that includes this. So when a e've ea talks

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<v Speaker 2>about cancer, it talks about it as these two avenues

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<v Speaker 2>of Yes, we have to destroy it, but we have

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<v Speaker 2>to do it in a holistic, intuitive way rather than

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<v Speaker 2>this very aggressive way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And why do you think you know, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about over the last few years or even the last

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, from my understanding, the statistics show that the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of the cancer that's occurring in people, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>one in two people rather than one in three or

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<v Speaker 1>one in four. What do you think are the main

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<v Speaker 1>contributors to the increase in cancer at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think lifestyle and environment. I mean, the data is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty clear that around between seventeen and eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>probably all cancers have their origin in what we do

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<v Speaker 2>and what we don't do, for better or worse. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think you look at the pediatric cancers, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the prevalence is going through the roof and they typically

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the you know, the stress that adults have

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of mortgages and relate. I know some kids

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<v Speaker 2>obviously do have stress, but generally speaking, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you look at diets, you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of foods people are fueling their bodies with, you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the circadian disruption we're exposed to, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>very I think if you actually look at it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very clear to see why we are getting iller, not

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<v Speaker 2>just intos a cancer, but heart disease, Alzheimer's because we're

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<v Speaker 2>living in a world and we're living in an environment

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<v Speaker 2>that makes it very easy to be sick and very

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<v Speaker 2>I think quite hard actually to be well. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to be very aware of what you're doing. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think I think environment, I think lifestyle. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, including diet are other big players for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And you spoke about reprogramming these cells. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>someone is diagnosed with cancer tomorrow they find out that

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<v Speaker 1>they're diagnosed with it, what are some of the key

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<v Speaker 1>things you'd want them to know from the beginning. If

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get time to read your book, what are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the key messages you'd want them to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the first thing, without exception, always is the

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<v Speaker 2>belief and the hope that you can survive. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know my passion. In academic cancer research just something

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<v Speaker 2>called ecaps ECAP, which is the clinical term for exceptional

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<v Speaker 2>cancer patients. These are the individuals with terminal prognosis. They're

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<v Speaker 2>usually given less than twelve months to live. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the word terminal, but for one of ourn

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<v Speaker 2>alternative given less than twelve months to live that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't typically have conventional treatment because the risks outweigh any rewards,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have that ability to look they're on cologists

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<v Speaker 2>in the eye and say, I respect your opinions, and

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<v Speaker 2>I respect you, and I respect your statistics, but I

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<v Speaker 2>choose my own reality. And that reality is it in

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, I'm going to be here. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be here fitting well, and this is how I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. And I've you know, had the privilege

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<v Speaker 2>of working with hundreds and hundreds of these ecaps over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, and the single biggest predictor of what allows

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<v Speaker 2>someone to become exceptional is the belief that it can

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<v Speaker 2>be done. And that's true whether you've got stage one

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<v Speaker 2>localized cancer or stage four in curable cancer, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to you have to cultivate a belief and a mindset

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<v Speaker 2>that I can overcome this, because we know that you

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<v Speaker 2>could be using the best diet and the best chemo

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<v Speaker 2>therapeutics and the best this, the best that. But if

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<v Speaker 2>the silent whisper in yourselves is what's the point. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be dead in twelve months. So all the

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<v Speaker 2>other things are vital in some cases they're mandatory. But

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<v Speaker 2>unless you get your headspace into a place where you

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely can look yourself in the mirror and say I

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<v Speaker 2>can overcome this, I don't think you can get the

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<v Speaker 2>level of success or the level of potential that you

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<v Speaker 2>could otherwise get. So hope and belief are always the

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<v Speaker 2>first things to cultivate. Get that set up, and then

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<v Speaker 2>go again.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard you speak about the molecules of emotion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would love you to explain that because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was so powerful when I read it, and

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<v Speaker 1>how your mind and what you think actually affects you

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<v Speaker 1>at a cellular level, and that that's been proven.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love you to expand on this.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest thing I think it's the I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>everything yeah. And the beauty of this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're any illness, any issue, anything you're managing that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want, this relates to because the molecules of

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<v Speaker 2>emotion relate to these neuropeptides which were discovered. They've been

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<v Speaker 2>known about it for a very long time. They're literally

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<v Speaker 2>molecules of emotion. So if you're happy, if you're sad,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're depressed or empowered, you actually can track these molecules,

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<v Speaker 2>these peptides that are being secreted in response to your emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>And it used to be thought that only your brain

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<v Speaker 2>could create these molecules, that only the brain could be

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<v Speaker 2>conscious and create emotions. And then very famous doctor Canda's

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<v Speaker 2>per you know, bombshell, you know, shockwaves around the scientific

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<v Speaker 2>community when she discovered that every cell in the body

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<v Speaker 2>is capable of secreting these peptides, which is exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>same as saying that every cell can secrete emotions, can

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<v Speaker 2>experience emotions and secrete them. And the implications of that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've got thirty forty trillion cells in the

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<v Speaker 2>body and everyone is secreting a little molecule of emotion

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<v Speaker 2>that is going to profoundly all to the workings of

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<v Speaker 2>the body in a way that I don't think anything

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<v Speaker 2>else can. And there's very few things that work on

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<v Speaker 2>every single cell. So when we think about in the

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<v Speaker 2>context of cancer or any health issue, if we are

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing thoughts of helplessness, hopelessness, disempowerment, fear, lack of agency,

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<v Speaker 2>that affects our quality of life cognitively. But every cell

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<v Speaker 2>in the body is secreting these little molecules of emotions

0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.800
<v Speaker 2>saying I'm helpless, I'm hopeless, I'm fearful. What's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>So just when you need yourselves to be absolutely in

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<v Speaker 2>tip top health, the life's being sucked out of them

0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 2>by these emotional responses. And frustratingly, it's the immune system

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that's most susceptible to this. So we know we can

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<v Speaker 2>tracking the blood work that if you have someone who

0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:24.679
<v Speaker 2>is experiencing not negative emotions, but undesirable emotions, that you

0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.159
<v Speaker 2>can correlate that with a declining immune function, which in

0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.399
<v Speaker 2>the context of all illness, particularly cancer, you have to

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.439
<v Speaker 2>have that immune system firing on all cylinders. But the

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<v Speaker 2>converse is true, is that if you can take someone

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<v Speaker 2>on the journey against which is why hope and belief

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<v Speaker 2>is so integral where they move from helplessness and hopelessness

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<v Speaker 2>and disempowerment into a devil may care. I've got this,

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<v Speaker 2>I can, I will. Were they cultivating a genuine belief

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't care what you put in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>I can overcome this. Every cell in the body secretes

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<v Speaker 2>these peptis that say we've got this, we can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what happens. Immune function increases, your liver function,

0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.159
<v Speaker 2>blood work, The whole body moves from a place of

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<v Speaker 2>dysfunction to optimal functionality. And it's not done by anything

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.440
<v Speaker 2>other than the mindset you cultivate. And that's true of

0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:17.840
<v Speaker 2>any arena of life, whether it's a career or relationship,

0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.679
<v Speaker 2>a health crisis. You want your cells and your organs

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<v Speaker 2>working with you, not against you, and that every every emotion, blief, thought,

0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.480
<v Speaker 2>attitude that you have will be experienced in the body.

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<v Speaker 2>Not possibly, maybe sometimes it has to be. It's no choice.

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<v Speaker 2>But we can impact upon these cells by regulating what

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<v Speaker 2>we do up here and there learned skills. Cancer patients

0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.439
<v Speaker 2>can learn these tools for creating hope and empowerment. So

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<v Speaker 2>these the molecules of emotion, the neuropeptided. It's mind body

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<v Speaker 2>medicine that you can track in blood and it changes

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<v Speaker 2>everything and it has to be mobilized.

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<v Speaker 3>That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I you know, I was saying to you before

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<v Speaker 1>that my grandma has bomar and cance at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And she actually got dying a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>with Hodgkinson's lymphoma.

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<v Speaker 3>And when she got diagnosed with that.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of years ago, the doctors were not very hopeful,

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<v Speaker 1>and also they told her she should do chemo. She

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<v Speaker 1>started chemo, and they wanted her to do it for

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of time, and honestly, my grandma is

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<v Speaker 1>everything you're saying, my grandma is.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, cancer, no problem, I've got this, So

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<v Speaker 3>God's got me. I'm fine, to the point where.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was shocked at her. Everyone was crying around her.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom was crying, my uncles were crying. Everyone was upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And they came back and from the doctors and they

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<v Speaker 1>said she's fine, and everyone was like, did she understand

0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.920
<v Speaker 1>what's happened? And she was like, oh yeah, so let's

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.600
<v Speaker 1>just if the doctors have said to dou chemo, let's

0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:51.159
<v Speaker 1>do chemo. And she spends already ninety percent of her

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 1>time in prayer. But during that time you would hear

0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.879
<v Speaker 1>her and she doesn't speak much English, but she would

0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:58.480
<v Speaker 1>say to God like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my body's fine. I to be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Just help me and guy me in whichever way it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. And everything was from a positive mindset,

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.720
<v Speaker 1>not why is this happening to me? This is awful,

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>this is horrible. And then she was meant to have

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember how much of chemo she was meant

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.639
<v Speaker 1>to have. Let's say six months. I'm just giving a

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<v Speaker 1>number because I can't remember. Within four months, they said

0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that she seems like she's in remission and she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need the rest of her treatment. So they actually stopped treating.

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Her after awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And she thrived for like two years after that, and

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>she was phenomenal, and everyone thought at that time that

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>it probably wasn't even going to be a month or

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.679
<v Speaker 1>two and she's another cancer has come back for her.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's ninety one now, and you know, even then,

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.119
<v Speaker 1>her mind, her body is failing her to some degree,

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>but she still is in this belief that her body

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<v Speaker 1>is doing exactly what it's supposed to and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to help her in whichever way it can, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that's incredible to see. But even when I reflect

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in my life, I used to go through when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger saying I've got such a bad immune system

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<v Speaker 1>and I just keep getting ill.

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<v Speaker 3>And didn't I say that out loud so much?

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<v Speaker 1>And over the last I say, eight nine years since

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<v Speaker 1>I started learning about Aravada, every time someone will say

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this, you're gonna get sick to I was like,

0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.160
<v Speaker 1>my body's fine. Actually, my immune system is incredible. Actually

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I touched. Would haven't been ill for a really long time,

0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm always like, oh, maybe I'll get evil like that.

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.720
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I and honestly, every time

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:28.640
<v Speaker 1>someone oh, if you getting a cold, I said, no,

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I just need to have a little bit of tumoric

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:31.640
<v Speaker 1>or I need to have a bit of this. I

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<v Speaker 1>never say, oh, I'm feeling really sick, or oh I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this for so long.

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, I'm good, I'm good. Have you got COVID. No,

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm good. I'm going to be fine in a couple

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 3>of days.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, I would say after reading a book, I

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:48.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, that change in narrative, not only vocally,

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>but in my mind of believing that I would say

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 1>to my body, no, you can do this. This is

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 1>whether it's whether it's in a workout, whether it's emotionally,

0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.200
<v Speaker 1>when I'm going through something difficult, whether it's when I

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.880
<v Speaker 1>found out my grandma had cancer, whether it's when I'm

0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 1>feeling unwell, I'm like, no, you are fine because you're

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.719
<v Speaker 1>looking after bar, You're looking after your grandma, so you

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 1>are not getting sick right now. And honestly, I feel

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>like that mindset has completely shifted how my body reacts

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>to that has to.

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:13.400
<v Speaker 2>It has to. There's no choice.

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not giving you any joy.

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's the power of it is. It's not up

0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 2>to it's not up to the cells. The cells just

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 2>taking the cues from you. And there are external variables,

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 2>of course, there are yes, germs, and there's this, that

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.679
<v Speaker 2>and the other. But the bottom line is that the

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 2>way our cells work are governed by the way we

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.280
<v Speaker 2>think and how we feel them and both of those

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 2>we have autonomy over. Yeah, so we have, you know,

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and you can see so many situations in clinical medicine

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.239
<v Speaker 2>where the whole thing is set up to make us

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 2>fail you know you have cancer, you go through trickment,

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 2>you're told you're in remission. What does that actually mean

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:45.919
<v Speaker 2>is as a descriptive, it means you're waiting for it

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.719
<v Speaker 2>to come back. Yeah, so you don't have cancer. We're

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>going to juste track you over the next five years.

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 2>The remission, That subconscious is you've done well, but it's

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.679
<v Speaker 2>going to come back. It's that subliminal we're waiting for.

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 3>It, and people do they do in that theory one.

0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Not, You're a big pat on the back. The cancer's gone.

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Now we're going to track it for the next five years.

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it will stay gone. There's a chance it will

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 2>come back. If it does, will manage it. But at

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the moment, you don't have cancer. And that's all we

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 2>need to know. And it's those subtle differences, but the

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 2>way that plays out in the way our selves work

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.680
<v Speaker 2>is profound, so that in a narrative, I'm feeling tired,

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I've got a cold coming, I've got no energy, it's

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>just reinforcing it. Whereas get out of bed and say

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:26.360
<v Speaker 2>the opposite, say I feel sprightly, I feel vital exactly.

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 2>It's transformative and it gives agency. We claw back control,

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 2>which is what we need.

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>When you're living from that point of waiting for something

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to come back. Really, what you're doing is inviting it. Yeah,

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.120
<v Speaker 1>because if you're thinking about it in that way, that

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>mindset of oh, eventually it's going to happen or the

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>fear actually ends up inviting that thing that you're trying

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to keep away. Because you're thinking about it in that way,

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you're inviting it back into your life. When you have

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that mindset of eventually, even if it's at the back

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>of your mind, there it's still there.

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 2>And you know, in clinical research it's called a nasibo.

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, placebo is where you get a good response

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 2>from it spectation, you know, and no cebo where you

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 2>get a negative response. It's just as powerful. So this

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.479
<v Speaker 2>is a documented fact in clinical research, and that if

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 2>the study is done where if you have a hundred

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 2>patients and they're all about to have the same chemotherapy

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and you tell half of them that they're going to

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 2>get pretty significant vomiting and nausea, and you tell the

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 2>other half that this chemotherapy doesn't have any side effects.

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 2>The group that are told they're going to get nausea

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 2>and vomiting get symptoms before the chemotherapy is administered. About

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 2>thirty percent actually vomit before they are looked up to

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the IV, just because their brains telling them. So we

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 2>have this phenomenal power to shape outcomes through creating a

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>positive expectation. And when we listen to narratives, we listen

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 2>to the way husbands and wives talk to each other,

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>or to kids or to parents about health and expectations

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 2>in life. It's all in printing a message. So it's

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>so powerful.

0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 3>And would you.

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Say that this is applicable I know you mentioned it before,

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but any stage of cancer and any point and I'll

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>add on to that. Would you say that it's enough

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>for some people to not even have to go through

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the conventional medicine in terms of chemotherapy or do you

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>believe that it should be both together?

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the sticky water, sticky ground. Yeah, I mean,

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I think yeah, I mean, I think the integrate if

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>the are e'vetic model, it can be used fully alongside

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>conventional treatment. I think the decision to have conventional treatment

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 2>is fully individualized. The other thing I always emphasize when

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>people talk about having chemotherapy is to be absolutely clear

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 2>on the outcome is it palliative. Is there no hope

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 2>of cure? And if there's no hope of cure, is

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>the benefit to life span going to be going to

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.479
<v Speaker 2>justify the quality of life deterioration you're going to get

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 2>if it gives you next to four months, But that

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>four months is in bed, you know, fitting really unwell.

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 2>You have to weigh that up. So, Yeah, the r

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you'vetic approach the cancer can be used fully along side

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.400
<v Speaker 2>high conventional care. The decision around what that conventional care

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 2>looks like needs to be based upon individual circumstances. But

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I think in terms of at what point does this

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, how far can you take this? You know,

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>there are cases I've seen one and I've read dozens

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>of people in hospice care who have been admitted from

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 2>home care into hospice care, which means statistically, you've got

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>probably less than ten days who have got up and

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 2>walked out of their walk back home, You've gone back

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 2>into recovery at home and are alive. The person nine

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 2>know seven years later that even when you are at

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 2>end of life care, there is the potential for the

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 2>body to fight back. And that's not saying what I'm

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 2>not saying is that everyone who's got stage four terminal

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>cancer can survive. But what I think the most important

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>message to propagate is that everyone has the potential to

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 2>not possibly maybe Sometimes there isn't one cancer that someone

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 2>with the terminal prognosis hasn't survived from. It hasn't become

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 2>an ECAP, not one. So if you're listening to this

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and you've got stage four stomach cancer and you've been

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 2>told you've got six months to live, the potential for

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 2>you to write a different script is there. Unequivocally, it's

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>just lining it up to allow that to give you

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>the maximum chance. And that's why that hope is so powerful,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>because when all hope has been taken away, the most

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>important thing you can do is rebuild it. And that

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 2>the ECAP research is so important because it provides you

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>with a documented clinical case study of there's someone with

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>my diagnosis, my progress has done it. It becomes a

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>clarion call for well, they've done it, why can't I

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 2>do it?

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 3>Exactly?

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>And that changes everything again. So yeah, the ECP work

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 2>is it's you know, if I was diagnosed or living

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 2>with the terminal cancer, I'd want to know that someone

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 2>has done it.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking that, whereas most of the time

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you're told, oh, this person lasted this long, or you're

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>told time frames that are negative, because what if at

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>your diagnosed you're told, you know what, we've had this

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>many people that have gone through this and they've made it,

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and even if it's a smaller portion than that, haven't

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>just hearing that before you hear how many people don't

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>make it?

0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, game changer. Yeah, instantly, the whole outlook for what

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you expect changes, and that expectation changes what happens. It

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>is that self fulfilling prophecy, and we need there needs

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.479
<v Speaker 2>to be a change in the way information is given

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>in clinical context so that infuses hope rather than hopelessness.

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Out of interest is just for my personal knowledge. Have

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you seen people heal holistically without using any Western medicine?

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh yeah, so yeah, quite a few. So I

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>used to run cancer survivorship groups at Crawley Hospital and

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 2>there were three people that stand out there, one with

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>liver cancer, one with prostate cancer, and one with breast

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>cancer who for a variety of reasons, decided to not

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>opt for conventional treatment given less than eight months to live.

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>And all of them are they are now because I

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>lost touch with them, But four or five years down

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the line, they were all fit well. They still had

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>active cancer in their body. It was contained, it was

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>pretty yeah. So you know, I have most decaps have

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>gone through conventional treatments in some context, but I've seen

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>people become ecaps without it.

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>So how does cancer develop in the body. Is it

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>something that develops over time or is it something that's

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>triggered or both.

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the latency period of cancer is

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>actually quite long, and that's that in terms of prevention,

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>that's our biggest weapon, because I might be diagnosed with

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>prostate cancer tomorrow, but actually the changes that facilitated that

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 2>probably occurred five or six years ago. If you look

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.479
<v Speaker 2>at the duration the latency, it's usually between three and

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>ten years depending on the cancer. So from the first

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>subtle change to actually a fully diagnosed. So at that point,

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>if we adopt you know, dietary lifestyle, behavioral practices that

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>have anti cancer impacts. Preventatively, it's profound, but you know, interventionally,

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, some cancers can come about very quickly, but

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>most cancers they do have this very long embryonic period. Yeah.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And What are the you talked about reprogramming the

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>cells now for someone who doesn't have pancer but wants

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to live in preventative lifestyle. What are the foods that

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>people should be eating as part of an anti cancer diet.

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Again, breadth is the biggest thing. I mean, there's a

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>hierarchy of foods. Some are there absolute heavyweight celebrities, like

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 2>green tea and turmeric. But it's it's the key with

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>anti cancer nutrition is synergy in that if you're having

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>every day a selection of foods that have an anti

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>cancer action. So you say you eat ten foods, you

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>get the clinical gain of each of those ten foods,

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 2>but by combining them, you get a gain that you

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 2>can only get when they're mixed together. But I mean,

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>but in terms of pound for pound impact, I mean,

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I think we should all be having turmeric in culin reform.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I think we should all be using matcha and green tea.

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, like you know, in terms of pound for

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>pound evidence, a cup of leafy green veg a day

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 2>gives you, you know, in terms of Alzheimer's cancer, heart disease,

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and we know that people have dark green leafy veg

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>every day have got about a sixty percent less chance

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>of dying over the next ten years. Big paper in

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>the studying the British medical journals. So yeah, it's just

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>about cherry picking certain foods that are quite easy that

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>pack a real punch in terms of promoting health and

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>preventing the seeds of lots of diseases.

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that you said tumeric in the culinary form

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like there's so many supplements and stuff,

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>which is great. Yeah, but there's so many ways you

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>can get it into just eating it. Or my mum

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>even makes this like tumeric pickle which it's fresh tumoric

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and then grates it with like ginger and on things

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that every day with our meal will have this fresh

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>tumoric pickle and it's like it's delicious, but also such.

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 3>An easy way to get it in another pill.

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's easier as well, isn't it. The more more

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>culinary basic becomes, I think, the more sustainable it is, exactly,

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>it work better. Yeah.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>And when it comes.

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>To sugar, because I feel like sugar has been the

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>demon for a while now, but I've been hearing more

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and more about sugar being such a contributor towards cancer.

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Is sugar a large contributor towards cancer, and if people

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>have cancer, should it be something they're avoiding.

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's a little bit more complex than that,

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>but it is. I mean, if you're living with cancer,

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 2>you need your your glycemic indexth to be your blood

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>sugar is to be absolutely bang on. Because there's a

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 2>compound in the body called IGF one, which it stands

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>for insulin like growth factor, which is exactly what it

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>says on the tin. So it's like a turbo fuel

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>for cells. Cells use it to reproduce, and cancers developed

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 2>a super clever way of hijacking that, so it's like

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, putting a super concentrated fertilizer into a vegetable guard.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>So IGF one levels increase with sugar. So the more

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>sugar you have, the more insulin you get released and

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you get more IGF one. So if you've got preventatively,

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you know something called the surveillance theory, which is we'd

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>all develop cancer cells about three times a year. We

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>know that if you tracked you or I, you know,

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>over a year, most of us would get these cells.

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>But most of the time, for most people, they're able

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>to identify that and destroy it before they develop symptomatic tumors.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.719
<v Speaker 2>And a big variable that predicts whether we can identify

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>those cells and destroy them or not. It's how quickly

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>they can grow. And the more IGF one, the quicker

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>they're going to grow, the more chances they're going to

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>get undetected and actually develop into cancer. So yeah, and

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 2>which is a terrifying fact because about forty percent of

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the adult population are pre diabetic and don't know it

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>over forty years of age, So people walking around for

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>decades with blood sugar levels that are teetering on diabetic

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>and obviously the implications of that on things like Alzheimer's

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>and heart disease, but also cancer. So yeah, I think

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a massive fan of loads of lab tests

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and this, that and the other, but I do think

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>tracking blood sugar levels is a really useful thing that's

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>so interesting if you're living with cancer, Absolutely sugar needs

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to be virtually non existent, okay.

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>And is that including sugars from natural ways like fruits

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>No, they're okay because they're because the fructose is bound

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>to the fiber. So yeah, there's a big debate at

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the moment around me.

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 3>I know, I love fruit alone.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>It's natural. I mean, you know, for me, having a

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>fruit that has a relatively high fructose level, but it's

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>actually having the whole fruit as nature intended. The anti

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>cancer benefits you're going to get from that fruit out

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 2>for me, outweigh the risks of the fruit tastes that

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>are include within it, because things like berries, you know,

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>some of the most powerful anti cancer foods. To not

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.280
<v Speaker 2>eat those because of the impact of pond blood sugar.

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 2>And you committigate it anyway, having it with some fat

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>having it, Yeah, it doesn't need to you can. We

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>can get the best of both worlds. So don't be

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 2>told that you shouldn't be eating fruit. You know, whether

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to maintain a healthy diet or you're living

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 2>with cancer. Fruit is you know, one of nature's most

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 2>powerful weapons against disease. We need to be using it.

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 3>So true.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>If someone is going through chemotherapy, are there like three

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>things that you recommend that they make sure they do

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>every day or as part of their routine that they

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>should implement to help with I guess the symptoms or

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the negative effects of chema.

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the biggest one is move walk, I

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 2>mean it used to be back in the day, you know, rest, sleep,

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>stay in bed, whereas now you look at the evidence,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, really powerful studies showing that actually, if you're

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>having chemotherapy, walking to a point of just before discomforts

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and you not going for a ten mile walk, but

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>if you can get out, go to the end of

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the road and come back, you clear out the toxins

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.720
<v Speaker 2>more effectively, you sleep better your immune system. So moving

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 2>the body is you know, is absolutely key. You have

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>to move within the within the remit of your of

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 2>your health. That's key. Sleeping well, you know, really making

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>sure you're getting the good rest periods, and controversially, but

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it's important it's exploring herbs because there are

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>some phenomenal studies I talk about in the book where

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 2>people going through chemotherapy, so cohorts are people one group

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>having the chemotherapy, the other group having the same chemotherapy.

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>The ones are using certain herbs have an increased benefit

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>from the chemotherapy in terms of cancer death, cell death.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 2>They have less side effects, less complications, and higher quality

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of life. So you're getting you're getting all of the

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 2>best bits for less trade off. And that's not you

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>know yet that has to be off the back if

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you need to see, you know, someone is trained and

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 2>get it customized and individualized. But to not explore those

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>benefits because they are profound. It's even research so you

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.959
<v Speaker 2>actually live longer. There's research in lung cancer patients where

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 2>those having a herb called istragulus alongside chemo therapy lives

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 2>significantly longer than are matched cohort who weren't having these stragulas.

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 2>So to not try to mitigate the toxicity of chemotherapy,

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, through things like herbs, I think is madness.

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 3>What the herbs you recommend?

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean the most famous one in the context of

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>chemotherapy is a stragulus.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not the same as chatavari, is it.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's different. I mean that's quite That's a good

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>one as well. Aspan Ganda is very very good. That's

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 2>been shown to prevent neutropenia, so immune you know, immune

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>cell drop off during chemotherapy. Saying tools, there's Trifler is

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>very very good. Yeah, so there's lots you know, there's

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>lots of herbs, but they definitely need to be done.

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>You need to be completely transparent, You're you're consultant needs

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 2>to know you're using them. But you know, if I

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 2>was starting chemotherapy tomorrow, I would one hundred percent want

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to have explored and have lined up something that's going

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 2>to increase its impact and reduce its side effects.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Sure, and you're speaking about You've said sleep quite a

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>few times during this and I loved reading and I

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>find it so fascinating reading about the circadian rhythm and

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>how sleep is such a crucial part of cancer prevention,

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>but also if you have cancer, and I would love

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>if you could go into a little bit more detail

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>about that.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's you know, it's a pillar are e vagically,

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a pillar in convention medicine, it's a pillar. You know,

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>if we are not sleeping. We've all seen it. We

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 2>have a bad night seeing the next day you're tired

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and you're you're cranky, and you know, but the impacts

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>upon our physiology, you know, our immune system resets, our

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>detox pathway are only active in the night time. And

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we're seeing a public health time bomb with

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>sleep at the moment. I think the generations, our generation,

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the ones behind us, because we've engineered a world where

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it is so difficult to maintain proper cicadian alignment. You know,

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.919
<v Speaker 2>people on their phones and you know tablets and things.

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>You know after about eight thirty or nine. Yeah's one

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest suppressors of melatonin. And the thing with

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 2>cicadian alignment, you know, live cicadan alignment being where you're

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 2>living in sync with your twenty four o'clock so there's

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 2>no gray area. You're either aligned, which unleashes health, or

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 2>you're out of alignment, and that is a fast track

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 2>to getting sick and dying early. You know, it's catastrophically bad.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.959
<v Speaker 2>You know, you look at things like Alzheimer. It's very

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 2>very clear links to circadian dysfunction. We know that people

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 2>with cancer. Has been studies done showing that if you

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 2>have cancer and you maintain circadian alignment, you live longer

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 2>than a match cohort. Who don't we know that, and

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 2>to cells actually respond to the circadian clock, to light

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>and dark, and you know, getting up at the wrong time,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 2>eating at the wrong time, going to bed at the

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>wrong time, not sleeping enough, all of these things. You know,

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>if you go on a long haul flight, we all

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 2>know what that feels like. But it's less severe, but

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it's more chronic. You do that for years, decades your body.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like asking, you know, us to live in water.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>We haven't got the software or the hardware to do it,

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and we haven't evolved. We haven't got the ability to

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 2>live in a way where our celves aren't circadian aligned.

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>And you know, anyone I would say is listening, who's

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 2>got just poor vitality, poor energy, feels like they're run down,

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>just not vital The first thing I would say is

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:47.439
<v Speaker 2>look at your circadian alignment, your rhythms, your sleep, when

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 2>you eat, when you get up, because if you get

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>that lined up properly, usually you just experienced just an

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>absolute elevation of health.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>So it is I notice it throughout my life when

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I from when I was at UNI, and my mom

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>would say, don't go out another night. I'm telling you

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you always get cold sauce. So like I grew up

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 1>with cold sauce.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Ok.

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>My mom would say, if you do one more night,

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna.

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Get a cold saw you A'm like, no, I'm fine.

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Two days later, lack of sleep, I would my immune

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>system would be telling me I never drank alcohol through

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>my life, but I always say when I've had two

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 1>days without sleep. I'm like, this is what it must

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like to have a hangover, because I'm so much

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>more hungry of things that I don't shouldn't be eating.

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel groggy, my head's hurting. I notice my immune

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>system dip. My digestion is different. The even over these

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>past few weeks when I've have had an odd schedule

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>because of my grandma, I have noticed such a difference

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>in my ability to function. And so if I'm physically

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>unable to function, I can't even imagine what's happening inside.

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's this is the thing. The power of

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 2>this is that every cell in the body is like

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the peptides. Every cell in the body has a clock.

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 2>So if we're out of alignment, it's not like it's

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 2>just effect our cardiovascar system or our muscles. Every cell

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 2>begins to dip. And you do that across thirty trillion cells.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>You just feel absolutely ruined. And you do that for

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, six months or a year, or five years

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.439
<v Speaker 2>or ten years. You know that you can see why

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the risks of this on disease are absolutely they are

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 2>They are truly catastrophic.

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 3>And on mental health. You know, I have a few friends.

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I'd say a couple that are really struggling with

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>insomnia at the moment, whether it's because of other issues

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>which are like OCD or things like that, and this

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>sleep is when I've spoken to them through bouts of

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>not sleeping, I can see such a shift in the

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>way that they're speaking, the way that they're receiving information,

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>the way that they're interacting with people. And I really think,

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>like obviously on a physical body level, but also on

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 1>a mental level, I think it completely shifts your whole

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>PERSONA change is the way that you interact in the world.

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, changes you. It changes you. So you have to

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 2>be have you know. And there's so much focus on

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>prioritizing diet and sleep, which is fundamentally Sorry, exercise and

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 2>diet and things like that, which is fundamental. But if

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>you're doing those things when you're not sleeping, you're not

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 2>going to breath the benefits because everything else is going

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>to go out of whack with it. So it has

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 2>to happen.

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>And one of the best ways to get into or

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>if someone listening is like, oh god, I'm so out

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of alignment. What are some of the easiest ways that

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>people can try to get back into alignment.

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 3>What does that look like?

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the most important one is when we get up,

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 2>because everyone talks about melatonin, you know, the sleep moorman,

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>which it is, and we think of it as this

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>nighttime for man, which it is. But the actual neurological

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>trigger for melatonin kicks in about fourteen hours after you

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>wake up. So as soon as you open your eyes

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 2>and actually regain consciousness, the brain then starts a little

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 2>stock clock and then that will take about fourteen hours.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Fourteen hours later the melotoni will start increasing, and about

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 2>two hours later you're kind of prime for you know,

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 2>shutting your eyes and going to sleep. So if you're

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>getting up at say six, twelve hours takes you to

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 2>about eight, then by ten you're absolutely hormonally primed to

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>go into really deep RESTful sleep. Is if you get

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 2>up at ten, fourteen hour takes you to midnight, two

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 2>hours takes you to two in the morning. So actually

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 2>those nights where you just cannot get to sleep, it's

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 2>not your force because you haven't got the actual hormonal

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>profile to facilitate proper sleep. So going to bed the

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 2>right time, getting up at the right time, if you

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 2>do that, if you do those two things, generally speaking,

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>your melotonin curve will be at a point that will

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 2>allow you to get really, really good, you know, rejuvenating sleep.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And I know from clinical work when you have someone

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>who's had long term not even broken sleep, but just

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 2>suboptimal sleep, and you get them sleeping well for a week,

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 2>they feel like they are absolutely brand new. What is this?

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>What is this level of health? I feel like me again?

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And that you kind of almost want everyone to experien

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>into that because it's so that level of vitality that

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>comes from good sleep is so profound. Yeah, so yeah,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>get up earlier, go to bed at the right time.

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I found fascinating about melatonin was I

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>always thought it was something that so whenever my husband

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>would travel for work, he was saying, can you get

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 1>me some melotonin? I'd be like, No, it's going to

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:18.959
<v Speaker 1>mess up the rest of your sleep.

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Don't do it. I don't want you to become dependent

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 3>on it.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And I would love to hear your thoughts on that,

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>because when I was listening to something that you were on,

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>was it doctor John Doe?

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And he was speaking about how melatonin can actually be

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>used in a different way for longevity and better health

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>as you get older.

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 3>So I'd love to touch on that.

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the Pandora's box been open with melatonin because,

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 2>like you say that, it's the actual role it plays

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>is every time you study it does more and more things,

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and it is increasingly being called a longevity you know,

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 2>molecule or compound because after the age of about six

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.240
<v Speaker 2>but turns on the data, but say sixty as an average,

0:44:56.239 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and melotonin does start dropping quite significantly, and that drop

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>in melotonin impacts upon cardiovascular variables, neurological variables, immune, particularly

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>immune variables. We know melatonin is an immune modulator. We

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>know it has an effect upon the way serotonins metabolized

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 2>for mental health, and there's actually some research looking at

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 2>why why want people to get to kind of not stereotypically,

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>but often they get to their seventies and they lose

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>some of that spark, some of that vitality that you

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>associate with that person when they were younger. Not always luckily,

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 2>but sometimes. And what they're saying is because they're medatonins

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 2>falling off a cliff, they're not able to convert serotonin properly,

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 2>and they lose that just that feel good hormone. It's

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 2>not as it should be. So the debate around whether

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>we should be microdosing melatonin when we get to fifty

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 2>is a tricky one because, on the one hand, part

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>of me feels that actually the body knows what to do,

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and if melatonin is dropping off after the age of sixty,

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 2>are we doing anything to mitigate that? Are we doing

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:03.439
<v Speaker 2>things you know naturally that can help to prevent that

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 2>being so disastrous, because that's that's an evolutionary response our body. Really,

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 2>after the age of about forty five, the body doesn't

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>really care about us because we've reached the end of reproduction.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 2>As far as it's concerned, it's done its job, which

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>is why forty five is the real water shit. If

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 2>you look at the aging profile from forty five onwards,

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a really big nose type unless you do something.

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>It's because the body hasn't doesn't care anymore. From a

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 2>genetic evolutionary perspective, a melatonin falls prey to that, but

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean it hasn't got pathways to mitigating that.

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>So we know that if we regulate sleep properly, someone

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>in their seventies seventy five can have the melatonin profile

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 2>if someoneh's thirty five. Wow, So actually does that mean

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 2>is it that Western kind of you know, hazard of

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.280
<v Speaker 2>something goes wrong, let's just shore it up with a prescription,

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.439
<v Speaker 2>that quick fix, simple solution. Or is it a case

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of actually, how do we bio haack this almost just

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 2>in a very natural, in built way. And I've looked

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.399
<v Speaker 2>at it quite a lot since speaking to doctor John,

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 2>and I do feel there's enough evidence to show that

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 2>you can maintain optimal melatonin profiles into your six decade

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>and beyond without having to supplement. Wow. You know, I'm

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 2>not unequivocal on that, but I do feel and I

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>subscribe to the you know, the kind of the wisdom

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 2>of the body. Anything that goes wrong, the body has

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 2>a pathway to prevent that or to manage it. And

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I something is central to melotonin. I struggle to believe

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 2>that there's not a system for keeping that optimal as

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 2>we age. And again the fact that in our Evader,

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, OJAS is such a beautiful and integral concept,

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm convinced that when the founding fathers of our

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Evada we're talking about OJAS, what they were actually looking

0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 2>at was melotonin because the two are so similar in

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 2>what they do, and there are so many things that

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 2>boost ojas, and the things that in the Western context

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 2>boost ojas are also proven to boost melotonin. So I

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I absolutely subscribe to the role that melatonin plays,

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 2>but whether that requires the need to artificially dose it,

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not convinced.

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Well for anyone who doesn't know what adjust is, it's

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the vitality in the body. Is like what's produced the

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>nectar that's producing your body, that gives you the glow,

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>gives your body feeling, keep your body feeling energized and vibrant,

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and anything else that you'd like to add to.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>It just umph, isn't it. It's bushy tailed, you know,

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 2>jumping out of bed and looking starry eyes, all of that.

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Everything we all aspire to it. You think, anything you

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:49.839
<v Speaker 2>aspire to in terms of your health appearance, ojas will

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 2>help you facilitate that.

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 1>And what are those things or foods that help to

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>increase melatonin or adjust in the body naturally?

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean again coming back to herbal medicines, they have

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 2>a mass role to play, you know, the tonic, the

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 2>rasnianic herbs, at Ashvin ghana, are you know, so powerful

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 2>in that context of bolstering you know, ojas and these

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:14.680
<v Speaker 2>the even things like dates, you know, modual dates, nuts,

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, raw honey. Yeah, these are all anabolic foods.

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, after the age of again forty five. Year

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>before forty five, the body is anabolic, so it's it's repairing,

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 2>it's rejuvenating, strengthening. Once we get to forty forty five,

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the catabolic breaking down exceeds the repair, which is what

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.720
<v Speaker 2>aging is. So one of the reasons are you've advocates

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>using more high ojas, you know, lifestyles and foods and

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 2>herbs and tonics is to is to just prevent that

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:46.399
<v Speaker 2>that that catabolic dominance. And again we know that these

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 2>foods that we would label are you vadically as being

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.760
<v Speaker 2>high in ojas, we know they're all linked to longevity.

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 2>So you see this beautiful marriage of you know, concepts

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 2>that are five thousand years old, this label of ojas,

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 2>which some people can say, well a eric and doesn't

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 2>make sense, but if you look at it through the

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.319
<v Speaker 2>lens of the Western research saying exactly the same thing.

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>So that's why these tonic foods I think need to

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 2>be an integral part of how we fuel our bodies

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 2>its as we get older.

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And do you think that you know, I mentioned the

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>melotone and if you start taking something, whether it makes

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.879
<v Speaker 1>your body lazy towards actually producing it. Have you seen

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 1>any research on that?

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's definitely data to show that if

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 2>you you have, if you are microdator, you've got to

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 2>be bang on with the dose because if you go

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>over or you have too much for too long, it

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 2>actually makes you feel really quite drowsy.

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 3>And of course yeah that's.

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Sleepy and not what you exactly so and that can

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:42.320
<v Speaker 2>definitely create dependency. So you know, if you are microdacing

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 2>needs to be absolutely on point in terms of the

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 2>dose and not using it indefinitely.

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, that's good to know. I was asking for myself.

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never used it, but whenever friends ask me

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>about it, I'm like, I don't know. I never like

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 1>adding anything to my body that that isn't necessary if

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>my body's producing it anyway.

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there is evidence to me. I think there

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:05.319
<v Speaker 2>are context because people who do lots of long haul flights,

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 2>there is evidence to show that if you're supplementing the

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 2>week before and the week after you regain cicada more quickly.

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 2>So I think if you were you know, if you're

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 2>doing that and you know it's scheduled, I think there's

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 2>probably greater reward than there is a risk for using

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 2>it very common sense rather than yeah, just using it

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 2>as just a general long term, you know, remedy. I

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I question that, what would.

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>You say if someone asked you, give me three foods

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that actually be in every single day for cancer prevention

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to you know, stop myself from even getting there.

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 3>What would they be? Variety?

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 2>But variety? I mean extraversion olive oil is absolutely and

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 2>it's not are evading. But we had to do away

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 2>with dogma. You know, yeah, it's got the taste in it.

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 2>We can apply it. Are you've aiding? You know, I've

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 2>done loads of research and you know, data analyzes around

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 2>extra virgin olive oil, and it is you know, it

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 2>officially ranks as the number one health food in terms

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of how The Harvard University a big study looking at

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, the top one hundred foods relevant to disease mechanisms,

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 2>and extravergent olive ol came out top. And you know,

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:17.399
<v Speaker 2>the polyphenols that you find in extra virgin olive oil

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 2>are It's just unimaginable what they do. You know, we

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 2>know they induce cell death and cancer cells. We know

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 2>they starve them with blood, blood vessels. We know they

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 2>regulate immunity. So yeah, and in longevity, you know, you

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>look at probably one of the most powerful dietary application

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.360
<v Speaker 2>for longevity. Three tablespoons of extravergent olive all day should

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 2>just be mandatory. Wow, yeah, it is off the chart.

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 2>But the problem with extravergion olive on this is a digression.

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>You can go into the supermarket and buy organic extraversion olivo.

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's organic, it's pure, it's cold press and

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you think you're getting the benefits, but it's not as

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 2>good as useless. But it's kind of as good as

0:52:55.800 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 2>useless because it's the polyphenols and the olio anthonoles in

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:04.439
<v Speaker 2>extravergent olive that make them what they do heart health

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and anti cancer, and those polyphenols and oliocantals are dependent

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 2>upon how quickly the oil is pressed. As soon as

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.240
<v Speaker 2>it leaves the tree, so it has to be pressed

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 2>within four hours.

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So if you buy like a boutique olive ore,

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that's twenty six quid. It's because they certify and they

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 2>have independent lab tests to quantify the polyphenol levels. So

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that means that when you use it, you know you're

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>getting the benefits. But when you're buying the how can

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 2>you get organic extravergient olive ore for seven pounds, Yeah,

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:44.239
<v Speaker 2>because it's because they've sat in a warehouse for three

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.240
<v Speaker 2>days oxidizing. So actually, if you look at the polyphenols,

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 2>then they're not negligible, but they're not going to have

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:53.840
<v Speaker 2>a clinical impact. So in terms of an investment, you

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 2>can look at it and say, Okay, it's sixteen pounds

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and that's a lot of money. But in terms of

0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 2>gain for cost, there probably aren't many things that you

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 2>can do that will give back more than that.

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So hip your coffee, get an Oliver coffee, good quality,

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>do that and just do it. I had someone to

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 1>come on my podcast saying that the one thing I

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>do for my I drink all of your like I

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>drink it. Okay, So how do we know whether we're

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 1>getting good quality? Is it just by the price point

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>or what are we looking for on these labels?

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it has to have so that's something called the

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the World Olive Oil Association or it's

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 2>something along those lines.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Be part of that.

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.399
<v Speaker 2>And we're actually working with an amazing So the way

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you can quantify it is that you say you can

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:35.920
<v Speaker 2>make a clinical claim is it has to be independently.

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Every every harvest has to have I think it's ten

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 2>percent of the harvest go through an independent panel and

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they look at the oliocanthono and polyphenol level and as

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>long as that coat, the long as the the batch

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 2>day test is above the level, you can make the

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>claim for that harvest. And you can't take it on

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 2>price point, you can't take it on location. It has

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to be independently lab testing. I got so angle about

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:02.760
<v Speaker 2>this and so kind of obsessed with this. I actually

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>really started digging into it because I wanted to know

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:07.839
<v Speaker 2>that I'm having my three I want to know I'm

0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:12.800
<v Speaker 2>getting And we actually found an amazing company. They're amazing

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 2>husband and wife team the Greek. They're Greek immigrants and

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 2>they have a company called Back to Roots and I

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>found them and I was like, you guys are amazing.

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 2>They will tell me their story and they've they've got

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 2>all the lab testing everything. So I'm not I'm not

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 2>there's no competent of interest. I'm not invested in, but

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I just use them. And what I love about that

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:34.959
<v Speaker 2>is I have those that have their oil at home

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and when I use it, just psychologically knowing that there

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<v Speaker 2>is that it comes from organic groves in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of Greece, it's been lab tested. I know that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting exactly what I need to be getting to harness

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<v Speaker 2>all of these benefits. And I love psychologically that's I

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<v Speaker 2>think very powerful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah really, yeah, I'm going to get me that olive Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So having having olive oil every day is and

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<v Speaker 2>also for things like esthetic, you know, aging hair helds

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 2>in health joints, like staying nice and fluid, is you

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 2>age arth riders, mobility, you know. Olive oil is just

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the gift that keeps on giving you Outzeimer's prevention brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to get my dad has Room for

0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 1>arthritis because when he was going through treatments, he lost

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of weight. And the one thing I've been

0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to get him to do through put On, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, drink olive oil. He's like, what about the

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's good bus just drink it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna tell him.

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<v Speaker 2>Just drink it, guzzle it fat. Yeah, so that's uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Told me that he needs to be drinking that olive oil.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think in terms of game threat, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, wasn't it. If you have another two green tea

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<v Speaker 2>or matcher? Yes, yeah, I mean that's a that's pushing

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 2>olive oil. In terms of impact, you know, we know

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<v Speaker 2>it kills, you know, particularly in breast cancer. You know,

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:51.839
<v Speaker 2>we know in lab tests you can put a breast

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.760
<v Speaker 2>cancer cell, you can drop a matcher, you know, molecule

0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:58.359
<v Speaker 2>on it. You will literally see the breast cancer cell destruct. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a varying cancer cell. Have done it in brain cancer cells.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kryptonite for cancer cells. So yeah, drinking a

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 2>couple of cups of green tea a day or a

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:08.560
<v Speaker 2>shot of match of a day, it's super quick, it's

0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>super easy. It's not difficult. Again, this is playing the

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 2>long game. You do it every day or most days,

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 2>most years. Long term, you can see how these people

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 2>get eight, nine, ten decades of life and they're not

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 2>falling prey to these illnesses because they not let their

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 2>body get to a place where those diseases can establish

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not it always not shocks me upsets, but that

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 2>people look at people who are in their nineties and

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 2>hundreds and are amazed that what they've done. It's brilliant

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 2>what they've done. But it should be we should all

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.479
<v Speaker 2>be respecting that as our right, as our birthright, because

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:43.400
<v Speaker 2>it's there for us. We just need to line things

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<v Speaker 2>up so that we maximize our body's ability to not

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 2>fall prey to lifestyle based illnesses. So matcha and green

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 2>tea and I'd come back to dark leafy greens, yesruse,

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:54.479
<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all those matcha esthetic matter of trends on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>are right?

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<v Speaker 2>Are the bony you mix it into olive off? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think are some things that people don't

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>actually realize are contributing to cancer but do like the

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>undercover ones that people don't notice.

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that is known about, but I think under armed

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 2>deodorants are a massive one because if you look at

0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 2>the if you look at the breast cancer prevalence charts

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and you look at it upon the mass popularization of

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:31.000
<v Speaker 2>aluminium based deodorance, they track each other almost perfectly. Could

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 2>you think about under your arm pits, you've got the

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 2>little the lymph networks. You've got the very dense micro

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>vascular networks and they're delivering straight into breast tissue. Yeah,

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 2>they're hormone disruptors. So I think you know, you're using

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 2>pure natural, non aluminium based deodorance is key. But again,

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 2>poor sleep, not sleeping properly, not exercising, not moving like this,

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 2>sitting down like today. For me, it's been a shocker

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 2>because I be in the car. But you can see

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 2>how days can go by where you actually you're down

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 2>for six, seven, eight, nine hours. Evolutionary, we're not hardwired

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 2>to do that, so you know, not moving, you know,

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 2>But then you could even go further and look at

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:14.160
<v Speaker 2>the things like the softer but more powerful variables like

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 2>relationship quality. Yeah, feeling connection, feeling like you're part of

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 2>a tribe, that someone's got your back. That's been shown

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to be you know, more impactful upon health and things

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 2>like smoking or sentary behavior. So it's just about creating

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 2>an environment around you where you're nourishing yourself, You're stimulating

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>your You're you're from the moment you get up to

0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 2>the moment you go to bed. You're nourishing yourself in

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 2>the fullest fullest sense of that word. Yeah, I think,

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 2>and we're not often not doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, And it's not so simple. I think, of

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 3>course I want to do that for my body.

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think chocolate bar. Yeah, I know, but it's

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 2>moderation you're having that, you know, chocolate bar, as long

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 2>as what you're doing the rest of the time is good.

0:59:56.240 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I think moving funny exactly that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Do you what about microplastics? Oh like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why that's why I'm such a huge advocate of saunas. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think again the microplastics, we've scratched the surface

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<v Speaker 2>of what's coming in the years to come in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the implications of this, because you know, for particularly

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 2>things like Alzheimer's Parkins's neuro degenerative diseases. Yeah, they are

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<v Speaker 2>building in the brain and the only real way of

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<v Speaker 2>getting them out for the most most effective ways sonering.

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<v Speaker 2>Real pathologists say they can see in the brain of

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<v Speaker 2>someone if they've saunered regularly or not, from the structure

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<v Speaker 2>of the brain. So you know saunering.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is there specific any kind of sauna or

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<v Speaker 1>like infrared or I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think the jury is out around infrared and the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the radiation not being good but being good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>skeptical since I just used this, I mean we've got yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just that, Yeah, you know, three a week, twenty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty degrees. The evidence is absolutely clear. Wow yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Okay, so infrared is maybe well I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't got hard data to support that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel common sensically, how could it be good for

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<v Speaker 2>you? You're in this very tiny space, it's enclosed, it's high frequency.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't see. I just I just don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to wait for the data to come out. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to risk it.

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<v Speaker 3>The person where that came from, you, who created.

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<v Speaker 2>That great infrared? I know it's bad. Idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there research done about women and what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>materials that they wear linked to breast cancer or prostate

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<v Speaker 1>cancer and the type.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Yeah, there's links with hormone disruptors. Yeah, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>breast cancer. A society have done quite a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>research around you know, synthetic nylons, and obviously they're on

1:01:44.960 --> 1:01:47.600
<v Speaker 2>your skin. You know, our skin is very absorbi However

1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:49.160
<v Speaker 2>you put on your skin, you can absorb through and

1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:52.040
<v Speaker 2>the blood. It disrupts hormones. So just it's like anything,

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<v Speaker 2>just stripping it back, just going in care, in care.

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<v Speaker 2>It's young, these TikTok trends of these teenage girls, all

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<v Speaker 2>these beauty products. You know, it's I dread to think

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to come in years to come. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely has to be Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically everyone just stay at home, green, drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Some match, be active, be happy exactly, yeah, be happy happy, Just.

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<v Speaker 2>Live like live fully enjoy life.

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<v Speaker 4>Just yeah, live live in The magic for people who

1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:22.440
<v Speaker 4>are listening that are supporting a loved one through cancer,

1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:25.720
<v Speaker 4>is anything that you've seen that you would want them

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<v Speaker 4>to know or do differently that you've seen people kind

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<v Speaker 4>of make mistakes of.

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<v Speaker 2>Just explore more, just like open up the perspective and

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<v Speaker 2>look beyond. Just the conventional care can be life saving.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't you know, if you put the ability of

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<v Speaker 2>someone to thrive and survive in the hands of someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>you've lost all control because if you put the person

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<v Speaker 2>at the center, and so I'm going to take the

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<v Speaker 2>best of conventional care, but I'm going to do so

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<v Speaker 2>much else as well. You just bring that empowerment, that

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<v Speaker 2>autonomy back in. So just expand the net, look further

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<v Speaker 2>explore more, hope more, believe more, and then put everything

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<v Speaker 2>in place to maximize the ability of that to actually

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<v Speaker 2>reach fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like live less out of fear and protection and.

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<v Speaker 3>Live more out of hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and belief, believe, positivity and a positive expectancy around me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, believe there's more. There is more.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so true. Oh my gosh, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. I'm so grateful to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been absolutely phenomenal. And please everybody go and check

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<v Speaker 1>out the bug. It is available everywhere. Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>else you'd like to share with people where they can

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<v Speaker 1>find you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on Instagram, which is Dr Sam Watt's got a

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<v Speaker 2>website obviously, so yeah, check us out.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't wait to see all the incredible things

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<v Speaker 1>that you do in the future. And they've done so

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<v Speaker 1>many amazing things.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.