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We got this continuing involving NFLPA 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: story really really really interesting in terms of unions and 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: how some of the strife within the union for the 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: NFL and NFLPA. And then of course you in college athletics. 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Some people think players should join the union. Then you're like, wait, 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: there's some union issues there. Speaking of unions, I think 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: I can combined the flaws of the w NBA union 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: of players with Scotty Scheffler winning the Open Championship. You know, 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: just bear with me for a second. So Scheffler is 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: the best player in the world. He wins the Open Championship, 27 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: and this on the heels of when Scotty told the 28 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: media before the Open, I just don't get a lot 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: of joy out of it. You know, still like doing 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: the work, it's all I know. But when we win, 31 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, a couple seconds a high and 32 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: then hey, what are we going to eat? And that 33 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: didn't I mean, I just didn't land perfectly with me. 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: But again, that doesn't mean that he couldn't win, or 35 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: that we should feel bad about him winning or anything. Right, 36 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: there's a certain thing that he has that some of 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: us strive for, which is kind of a balance in 38 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: your life. Things shouldn't matter at work as much as 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: they do for some of us. But the other side 40 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: to it, and this is a really important side to it, 41 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: The other side to it is guys that are just 42 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: vicious competitors and always looking for the next kill. If 43 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: you will again, this is just more sports analogy, or 44 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: if you want to make it kind of like an 45 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: animal analogy, or or maybe the biggest thing would not 46 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: even be animal analogy, is just Tom Brady, right. Tom 47 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Brady's famous for what's his favorite super Bowl? The next one? 48 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: Whereas Scotti Scheffler, Eh, didn't mean that much to me. 49 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: But here's what's an issue when you combined the WNBA 50 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: and what I felt like was a disastrous weekend the 51 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: second straight summer in which they could have done so 52 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: many great things to promote their product, to wrap their 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: proverbial arms around their growing superstar, and yet again, second 54 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: straight summer, they tripped on their egos and on all 55 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: of the things. They feel like it was done wrong 56 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: to them in the past, and it hurt their ability 57 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: to shine brightly when nothing else is really shining. But 58 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: the big thing is when you get a superstar, learning 59 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: how to promote that superstar. And when you were a 60 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: superstar like talent in a sport, you do carry a 61 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: certain It's just important for you to embrace that and 62 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: to find a way to have the game grow with 63 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: you like Tiger Woods wasn't perfect, right, obviously far from 64 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: and the image that was portrayed to us was only 65 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: a fracture of the real image of the real guy 66 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: of Tiger Woods. But whether it was Nike, whether it 67 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: was his agent, whether it was the time, whether it 68 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: was Tiger himself, he took the sports rule by storm. 69 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. Golf was boring, Golf was rich people. 70 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Golf was old, fat white dudes that could weren't athletic 71 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: enough to play a real sport, and they would go 72 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: and drink and smoke cigars with their buddies on weekends 73 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: and pay gargantuan sums of money that we could ever 74 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: think of paying. And so it was completely unrelatable to 75 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: those of us who grew up lower, lower or lower 76 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: middle income. Right. If you're if you didn't grow up 77 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: with your well, your dad at as at a country club, 78 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: you didn't grow up with a golf club in your 79 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: hand until Tiger Woods became a star. You look at 80 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: the NBA and what's been what's been fixed, What's been 81 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: fixed by Steph Curry, Lebron James was that gap after 82 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Right, And whichever one you like they've helped 83 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: kind of raise up the game, probably Steph Curry even 84 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: more so than Lebron, even though we'd all agree Lebron 85 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: is the is the better overall player. But again, I 86 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: think the big thing is, if you look at what's 87 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: going on in the w n b A, if you 88 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: look at what's going on with Scotti Scheffler, neither of 89 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: them understand the superstar thing. For Scheffler, I get it. 90 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: You don't love golf or you don't it doesn't bring 91 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: you the energy that winning isn't as triumphant, as amazing 92 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: as you thought it would be. But because this is 93 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: it's like, eh, eh, fine, it's hard for mainstream not 94 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: golf fans are going to get behind him because he's 95 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: amazing and there is something to the subtle art of 96 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: not giving a flip, and maybe that's why he wins 97 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: when others with similar or maybe even equal talent fall short. Right, 98 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: how many times has Rory fallen short? How many times? 99 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: You know? How many times have you go through all 100 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: of these guys You're like, man, this guy's an incredible talent. 101 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: They've won majors, yet they can't be as consistent as 102 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: he can be. And maybe A big reason is it 103 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: just doesn't care that much, so it doesn't bother him 104 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: that much, so he doesn't carry these nerves and this 105 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: angst and this anxiety when he gets to sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, 106 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: and it's you can put away tournaments that way. Maybe 107 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's really hard for us to 108 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: make golf a thing like it was with Tiger when 109 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: the guy doesn't really embrace or doesn't know how to 110 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: carry the sport like his talent says he should. And 111 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: then conversely, for the WNBA, they keep pushing against this superstar, 112 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: doing everything they can in their power to push against 113 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark as a superstar as representing their sport, and 114 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: they don't know how to do it either. They don't 115 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: know how to do it either. Say what you want 116 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: about the NBA and the flaws of the NBA, but 117 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: the fact is it is a star driven league and 118 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. NFL the same. And look, 119 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: not every NFL star wants to be a star or 120 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: gets it or embraces it or whatever, but dynamic personalities 121 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: that then become the best or close to the best 122 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: in the league have to one be lifted up by 123 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: everybody in the league. And then two they have to 124 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: embrace that themselves and golf has a chance. You have 125 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: an amazing player. You've got a lot of amazing players. 126 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: But I mean Scotty Scheffer's numbers and wins incredible. But 127 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: because he doesn't outwardly says it doesn't matter that much 128 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: to him, even if it's a great place to be 129 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: in your work life balance, even if that speaks to 130 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: gen z Okay, it misses the mark when you can 131 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: be carrying a sport and the WNBA trying to fight 132 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: old battles and using the wrong tone and the wrong approach, 133 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: all while constantly pushing against this idea of Caitlin Clark 134 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: lifting your sport up of being among the games elite. 135 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: It's almost comical how both sides, both sports are tripping 136 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: all over themselves to find a superstar. The WNBA and 137 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: golf have both found it, and yet they can't capitalize 138 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: on it like on paper they probably should. Right This 139 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, speaking 140 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: of the WNBA, Did you see the shirts they wore 141 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: in warm ups? How it lands the reality? 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Did any 182 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: of you guys watch bo Did you watch any of you 183 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: guys watch anybody? 184 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 6: I watched the first half and the festivites leading up 185 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 6: to it. 186 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so Sam helped me out again. I'm trying to 187 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: consume one because I don't like All Star games too. 188 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be as see you. It's the whole. 189 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: WNBA has always been a hard watch for me. I 190 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: enjoy watching Caitlin Clark play some but again a lot 191 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: of this is how it gets cycled into my phone, 192 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: right because just like the rest of the world, I 193 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: have the bad habit of not paying attention to something 194 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: recruiting over the weekend and trying to not take the 195 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: perspective that's given through social media. But what was shared 196 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: was it was basically the the NBA All Star Game 197 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: without the athleticism and skill in that nobody played any 198 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: sort of defense. Is that accurate? 199 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, there wasn't much defense and there was a 200 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: lot of bricks. I'll just say that. 201 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. Okay, the WNBA has 202 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: this new superstar. Okay, it's new superstar, and they have 203 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: a chance, with all of the dysfunctions in other sports, 204 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: to capitalize on the momentum of the sport. And over 205 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: the weekend in Indianapolis, where one Caitlin Clark owns that 206 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: town too, they've been selling out the Pacers Arena for 207 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: WNBA games and there's a tremendous basketball fan base in 208 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: general being in the state of Indiana. They came out 209 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: in the court with T shirts saying pay us, which 210 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: you owe us, and Caitland Clark didn't play, and then 211 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: they played a worse version of the NBA All Star Game, 212 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: which everybody has rightfully been critical of, And after the 213 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: game there was then subtle jabs thrown at Kaitlyn Clark 214 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: and her team for not participating in a discussion about 215 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: said T shirts before they reward. How did I do? 216 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 5: Yep? 217 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 6: That sums it up. 218 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So what's going to happen is at some point, 219 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: at some point even with Kitlin Clark, but the rest 220 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: of the league is going to run into a Hey, 221 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: we're back in that same predicament of not people not caring, 222 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: but people actually pushing it away, and it's going to 223 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: be blamed. It will, without any questions, say hey, America 224 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: is male, chauvinistic, anti whatever, alternative lifestyle whatever, when that's 225 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: not what it is. Is there some of that? Yeah, 226 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: there's there's always going to be something. There's also reality 227 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: to it. Right, Women are less athletic than men. It 228 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: is not at the jaw dropping athleticism that we're used 229 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: to seeing in professional basketball. It's just not their skill level, 230 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: though better than it's ever been, is not nor will 231 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: ever be, at the level of men. And yet they 232 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: want to compare themselves the salary to it. So there's 233 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: part of that. There's a reality to it, a harsh 234 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: reality to it. But there's also hey, last year you 235 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: had the Olympics, you chose not to bring Caitlin Clark, 236 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: and so people like myself said, not only am I 237 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: not appointment viewing, I'm actually going to make sure that 238 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't watch because it's just gross that they don't 239 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: really want to embrace their growth in their own game. 240 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: And then with the T shirts, look I get there's 241 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: the reality of them only getting I think it's nine 242 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: percent of a revenue share. And of course every Moody 243 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: on social media likes to smartly point out that, hey, 244 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: you lost forty million last year as a league, so 245 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: if you want to share the revenue, should you share 246 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: the revenue losses? And of course the NBA subsidizes it. 247 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: And then you know, women will tell you. Women of 248 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: the WNBA will tell you like, hey, look, if the 249 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: new TV deal goes in effect. When the new TV 250 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: deal goes in effect, we get very little of it. 251 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: And these owners are now going to be made whole 252 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: on some level because of it, asking for more, asking 253 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: for a spot at the table, asking for the chance 254 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to get a higher percentage of the revenue is very reasonable. Hey, 255 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: we're doing way better now than we used to. We're 256 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: flying in charters, we're on commercials, we're doing better than 257 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: we used to. Can we continue to make it better 258 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: for women of the WNBA? Is different than pay us 259 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: what you owe us, because exacting and extracting that revenge payment, 260 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: if you will, is exactly how we feel. I would 261 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: just say, as the average consumer, the average sports fan, 262 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, now you got to give us the 263 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: attention that you owe us. We don't owe you anything. 264 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: No one owes you anything. Some of it is semantics. 265 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: It's just one word. The word is oh. It's oh, 266 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: nobody owes you anything, zero, zilch zip, nada. Had they 267 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: simply said, you know, pay us as we earn it, 268 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: think of how that would have landed. Think of how 269 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: that lands. Or even pay us what we've earned lands better. 270 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: It still doesn't land great, but lands better. Then pay 271 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: us what you owe us, Oh, reeks of entitlement. Oh 272 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: is paying for the past When anybody who's followed this 273 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: league at all will say, like, owe you We've been 274 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: bleeding money for twenty five years. I don't know you nothing. 275 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: But it's more how it actually lands with the people 276 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to win over. None of that has any 277 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: effect on negotiations. Negotiations are really just about hey, are 278 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: you unified? Do you have is your union ready to 279 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: await for walk away from checks? If you're ready to 280 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: walk away from checks and you're you're ready to run 281 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: the you know, have the danger of walking away from checks, 282 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: if you're willing to do that, well, hey, this is 283 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: getting this, this will get interesting. Doesn't that have any 284 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: But this is about winning the room, or maybe not 285 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: even winning the room. This is about winning in public perception, 286 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: which does have value. It does have value. Public perception 287 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: absolutely has value. Maybe not to the extent that the 288 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: women of the WNBA think or understand, but it has value. 289 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: On the other hand, using a word like oh, it 290 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: just lands terribly, I don't know anybody who looked at 291 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: it and goes like, yeah, that's great, that's great. Sam, 292 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: you are the biggest WNBA fan and really a kingle 293 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: Clark fan, you know, you and Monse you're the two 294 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: biggest at the network. 295 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 6: And Martin Weiss big fan, big fan. 296 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: Okay, again, I'm gonna warn you guys, be cautious to 297 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: not it's like guys on social media when it's like 298 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: a Saturday morning and they start tech, they start tweeting 299 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: about uwave football, Like you're like, if that's what you 300 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: love and you're covering the NFL, you're showing you really 301 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: don't care as much about it. It's just a job 302 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: to you. It's that's that's it. That's a Titanic you're 303 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: going to sink on. So it's cool to love it 304 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: and enjoy it, but just know, like becoming a w 305 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: NBA leading sports radio shows consecutively continually when real, when 306 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: other sports matter, it's not a great way to live. 307 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: That said, how did how'd those shirts slam? With you? 308 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 7: Man? 309 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 8: It They're controversial for sure, I mean for all the 310 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 8: reasons you said, you know, and then but then you 311 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 8: listen to the people calling the game and they had 312 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 8: their own explanation for it and reasons why they were 313 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 8: wearing the shirt. And but I think it's a little 314 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 8: too soon to be like demanding so much. Give it 315 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 8: another four or five years. So I think that then 316 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 8: you get to the point where you're like, Okay, pay 317 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 8: us what we deserve now there's there is a lot 318 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 8: of money floating around and both said it. We had 319 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 8: a bo Bens and our executive producer today had a 320 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 8: great term, you know, accounting magic. I think magical accounting. Yeah, 321 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 8: the money's out there somewhere, but I just don't know 322 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 8: if it's you know, at this point, it should be 323 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 8: all put up front at this you know for the players. 324 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: No, listen, we all listen. We all want to focus 325 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: on the forty million dollars lost by the league. Okay, 326 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: And every good business tries to look like they don't 327 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: make any money because they don't play any taxes. If 328 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: we lose money, great, right, Like NBA teams will tell you. 329 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, Mark Cuban when he sold sold the Mavericks, 330 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: I lost hundreds of you know, hundreds of millions of 331 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: dollars and then you end up making it back on 332 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: the sale the team. The difference is in this league 333 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: you generally don't make money even when you sell the team, 334 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: or to this point, you haven't made money when you 335 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: sell the team. That's why they have to create more 336 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: teams because that's the way to get more money to 337 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: the owners, and you get it through franchise fees. So 338 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: I agree with the there is some cute accounting taking 339 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: place that leads you to believe it loses more money 340 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: than it probably loses. That said, everyone knows the w 341 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: NBA loses money and the word oh is not only 342 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: entitlement but the past. And that's not what you're trying 343 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: to capitalize on. Rick Kicker joins us Fox Sports One 344 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: and Fox Sports Radio. NBA Insatury joins us in the 345 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's uh, let's 346 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: get to the league. As Marcus Smart now member of 347 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: the of the Lakers, what does that do for the Lakers? 348 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 7: Look? Is it gonna help? Sure? But I I feel 349 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 7: and I've always been a Marcus Smart fan. I it's 350 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 7: I don't want to say it's a desperate move, but 351 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 7: I don't know how excited anybody should get over where 352 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 7: Marcus Smart is at this point. And what I really 353 00:21:54,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 7: am curious about is the chemistry between Smart and Lebron 354 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 7: and Luca uh and to a lesser extent, JJ. Marcus 355 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 7: has always been about kind of playing at both ends 356 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 7: and holding you know, bigger players, guys with bigger names 357 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 7: accountable when he has played with and he hasn't been 358 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 7: afraid to speak his mind or call them out. And 359 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 7: I don't know that personality has changed, even though his 360 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 7: game has declined somewhat. And that's where I'll be. It 361 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 7: makes them very interesting. I'll be interested. But that makes 362 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 7: them a chemistry experiment that I'm not sure is going 363 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 7: to turn out the way the Lakers fans with hope 364 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 7: it would. 365 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's weird. Uh. Any chance they move Lebron 366 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: before the season starts. 367 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 7: I just I don't. I don't see it. I know 368 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 7: it's out there, I know that they would be open 369 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 7: to it. I just don't see a world in which 370 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 7: Lebron is going to a place where it makes sense 371 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 7: for him. He's still if he's going to have any cachet, 372 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 7: it is going to be with the Lakers more than 373 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 7: any place else. And it really doesn't make sense for 374 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 7: any of the other teams, especially when it comes to 375 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 7: a trade, like what are you giving up? How do 376 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 7: you You're gonna have to give up something just to 377 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 7: match the contract. That's where his opting in. You can't 378 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 7: opt in and say I'm still playing for championships. If 379 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 7: you wanted to play for championships, you've got to go 380 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 7: someplace where you're picking your spot. You're signing a deal 381 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 7: that makes physcal sense for the team more so than 382 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 7: for yourself. And then then that provides that opportunity opting 383 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 7: in almost practically eliminates that for any team that considers 384 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 7: itself a title contender. 385 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so help me out with the Warriors, They've done 386 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: so little. It seems like everybody's waiting on something to happen. Yeah, 387 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: why has anything happened yet? 388 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 7: A big part of it is is trying to figure 389 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 7: out what they can get for uh, for Jonathan Kaminga 390 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 7: and there's not a great market out there. It's really 391 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 7: trying to make a deal that that improves them. And 392 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 7: that's the big that's the big piece right here that 393 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 7: they're that they're sort of sitting on, is trying to 394 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 7: figure that out. But there look, here's the reality they're 395 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 7: up against it. They Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry alone 396 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 7: take up three fourths of their salary cap room. You 397 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 7: add Draymond Green to that and it's nine tenths. So 398 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 7: the flexibility that they have is severely limited because of 399 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 7: what they are paying their top three players. And unless 400 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 7: you're going to move one of those, which there there 401 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 7: is no plan to do that. They're really up against 402 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 7: it in terms of making improving this team and making 403 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 7: it make physical sense unless they're able to turn Kminga 404 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 7: into UH into something. And right now there's just there's 405 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 7: not a market because people don't want to pay what 406 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 7: Kaminga thinks he's worth. And so I think that you know, 407 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 7: at this point, it's it's going to be he's gonna 408 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 7: sign that he's going to have that extension, UH, the 409 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 7: restricted pre agent extension, and then potentially be an unrestricted 410 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 7: pre agent next summer. That that at least is the 411 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 7: way it is looking right now. Everybody that I talked 412 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 7: to around the. 413 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: League, Rick Berger joining us here on the on the 414 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlib Show on Fox Sports Radio, UH, okay, then 415 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: you got the East, which you know Celtics looks like 416 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: you kind of got a pause for a year. Terms 417 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: of competing pacers, obviously the same. We know what the 418 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: Bucks are trying to do, and yet we're still waiting 419 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: on a full commitment from Jannis. Like a fool like 420 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm in, don't call. Will we get that? 421 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 7: I would expect that they will, because I don't know 422 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 7: that there's anything out there that makes more sense than 423 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 7: what he has in Milwaukee, and I would take Damian 424 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 7: Lillard going back to Portland as a cautionary tale that's 425 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 7: right in Giannis's face, which is you are beloved in Milwaukee. 426 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 7: You've actually done more than Damien did in Portland. You 427 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 7: brought them a championship. You're still at an age, and 428 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 7: you're with a GM who is demonstrated he's capable of 429 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 7: putting a championship caliber roster around you. You can go 430 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 7: someplace else. There's no guarantee that you're winning a championship, 431 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 7: and if you do, it's going to be discounted because 432 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 7: you went someplace else to join someone else, as opposed 433 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 7: to you stick around and you take another stab at it, 434 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 7: and if you win a second one, it's almost like, 435 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 7: you know, Steph Winn winning championship in twenty two, twenty 436 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 7: three's it takes you over the top in terms of 437 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 7: where you are and your legacy in Milwaukee. I don't 438 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 7: know if there's any place else where he can go 439 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 7: unless he wins multiple championships that he could that he 440 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 7: could he could raise his bar more so than staying 441 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 7: in Milwaukee and potentially winning winning another title or just 442 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 7: just being able to compete for one and then the 443 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 7: reason that he hasn't fully committed is because he's looking 444 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 7: at it saying, Okay, I don't see anything out there, 445 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 7: but why you know, let's let's see if anything comes 446 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 7: up that makes sense that there's something there's somewhere that 447 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 7: I could go that could potentially be better than what 448 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 7: I have. There's there. I don't see where he feels 449 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 7: that there's an urgency there, but I don't know that 450 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 7: it means that like he's torn. I think the wrong 451 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 7: read is to suggest that he's he's really conflicted. He 452 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 7: wants to leave Milwaukee, but he can't find the place 453 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 7: to go to. I think it's more a matter of 454 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 7: he's ready to stay in Milwaukee, but wants to leave 455 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 7: his options open to see if possibly something better could arise. 456 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: You know, I semantics matter. It really matters to those 457 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: of us, you know, like yourself, when we're kind of 458 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: breaking down what people say, what they write, and what 459 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: it all means, but also matters in terms of perception. 460 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: I felt like the flaw in the w NBA with 461 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: the T shirts, there's there's a lot right they just 462 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: they still can't embrace Caitlyn Clark. They're very much pushing back, 463 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: but just in the pay us what you owe us. Yeah, 464 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: the the O makes people think of entitlement. It also 465 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: makes you think that there's some wrong done to women 466 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: in the past that most of us. And again, like 467 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: the women's deal isn't particularly good good right, it just isn't. 468 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 5: Now. 469 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: Part of it was they weren't making money, so whatever, 470 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: It's not a particular deal, so not wrong. But I 471 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: think the mistake is in the oh US instead of 472 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: saying what we will earn? How did land for you? 473 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: When you saw those T shirts this weekend? 474 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 7: You know what, Honestly it felt a lot like the 475 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 7: slogans and the the T shirts in the bubble that 476 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 7: can the concessions that the players made to play in 477 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 7: the bubble so that we can wear T shirts and 478 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 7: we can have slogans on the court. And I felt like, Okay, 479 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 7: I understand, I understand what you guys are going for. 480 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 7: Are you, in today's market worth more than you're getting paid. Yeah, 481 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 7: there's an argument to be made for that, But I 482 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 7: think you make a great point in terms of it 483 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 7: feels like that they've been persecuted up to this point, 484 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 7: and the reality is there's this conflict between. You know what, 485 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 7: the reason that you're you're now have the attention that 486 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 7: you do is because of one person that you seemingly 487 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 7: can't embrace, because she recognizes that she's different than the 488 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 7: rest of you, and she is protecting that status. She's 489 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 7: not going to join She's not she's not one of 490 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 7: the girls. 491 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 5: Right. 492 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 7: She came in, she's been treated a certain way. She's 493 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 7: going to stand on her own brand, in her own position. 494 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 7: It's not that she's not a teammate with a teammate 495 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 7: with her, with her her team, but this idea that 496 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 7: she's got to like fall in line with everybody in 497 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 7: the WNBA who was already there. I don't see Caitlin 498 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 7: catering to that, nor do I think that she should, 499 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 7: because she's the reason where they are. So it's like, 500 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 7: I'm not bringing myself down to your level. Yet we're 501 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 7: not talking about as basketball players. We're talking about as 502 00:30:54,320 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 7: brand and and attractions. I have more pulled than you do. 503 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 7: And honestly, if the WNBA players knew their history and 504 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 7: had put some forethought into this and really wanted to 505 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 7: use the All Star Game as a platform, they would 506 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 7: have done what the NBA players did back in the 507 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 7: Oscar robertson Bob Coosey days, which is they played the 508 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 7: All Star Game and they wanted their players union. They 509 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 7: wanted the players union recognized. They wanted to be able 510 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 7: to collectively bargain for better terms, better relationship with the owners. 511 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 7: And so they played the first half of the All 512 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 7: Star Game and at halftime they said, unless you recognize 513 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 7: the players Union, unless we're able to collectively bargain, we're 514 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 7: not coming out and play in the second half. And 515 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 7: the owners the owners caved, And that's how the Players 516 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 7: Union that provides everything that it does today for the 517 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 7: player That's how it was formed. So if you want, 518 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 7: if you're really about this business, if you really want, 519 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 7: like if you want things to change, then you're gonna 520 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 7: have to go to the wall and be cutthroat about it. 521 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 7: And you can't go out there wearing a T shirt. 522 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 7: Think I get where they are, that they think they 523 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 7: did something bold, but the reality is this is business 524 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 7: and you are dealing with billionaire businessman. They're gonna laugh 525 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 7: at the idea that you're somehow going to influence them 526 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 7: by wearing a T shirt. 527 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: He's Rick Buker. He works for Fox Sports and Fox 528 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: Sports One. He joins us every week in the Doug 529 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: Galllip Show. If you get the best, man, I really 530 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. You got it all right. We'll turn 531 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: to some football up coming next. Wait to hear what 532 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said. Is it a big deal, a little 533 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: deal or no deal? Bye out next. 534 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 535 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter Noon Pacific. 536 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: As Dog Gotlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. 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Scotti Scheffler for Birdie at eighteen. 545 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: To get to eighteen, defar. 546 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: The moment awaits to tap in. 547 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler. 548 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 6: He's now joined the company of golf's greats. 549 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 8: He is the champion of the Open at royal Port 550 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 8: Rush twenty twenty five. 551 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: That's our Tyraq play of the day. Scotty Scheffler just dominant, 552 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: but as has been set by the people, just doesn't 553 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: want to embrace the idea of being a superstar and 554 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: helping his sport out, which he's allowed to do, but 555 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: the sport suffers because of it. Let's get to the game. 556 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 557 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: Isaac Loo and kron I Lo. What's the game today? 558 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: Doug deal me in, big deal, little deal, no deal soon. 559 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 9: Today Dallas Cowboys star linebacker Micah Parsons reported to training camp. 560 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 9: This is the final year of his contracts, so he 561 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 9: still remains without a contract extension. And then today Cowboys 562 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 9: owner Jerry Jones, among others, held their typical start of 563 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 9: training camp news conference, and Jerry Jones made a series 564 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 9: of well Jerry Jones like statements about Micah Parson's contract situation, 565 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 9: including this one in which he refers to Michah Parsons 566 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 9: as and I quote Michael Parson, listen closely. 567 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 5: Of all the players that I've ever negotiated with, Michael 568 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 5: Parson is as savvy and knowledgeable and understanding of his 569 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 5: financial business relative to football as any player I've ever 570 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 5: been around. I've talked with people that have talked to him. 571 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 5: Let's put it like that. You know, I don't necessarily 572 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 5: talk to these agents, So I don't necessarily talk to attorneys, 573 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 5: and I do stuff everywhere, and I don't necessarily talk 574 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 5: to the people that are hired to do certain things. 575 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: I talk to the principals ninety percent of the time. 576 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 9: Jerry Jones being Jerry Jones, big deal, little deal or 577 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 9: no deal. 578 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: It's a little deal. I mean it's going to be 579 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: a deal. That he called him Michael when Kirk Cousins 580 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 1: was leaving. Then Redskins Uh, the president of the team 581 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: called him Kirk Cousins. And we're all I tell people 582 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: all the time, like I almost didn't take the CBS 583 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: job because one of the executives CBS twice in a 584 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: meeting called me Dan. 585 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: No way, I didn't know this story. 586 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 9: I didn't know the story. 587 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: Well, I was sitting next to guy Dan Weinberg, and 588 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say who the who 589 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: the executive was, but he twice referenced me is you 590 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: know Dan? And I was just like, he just has 591 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: no idea who I am. Man, wasn't there offer me 592 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: a job? Huh? 593 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 9: Wasn't there like a Steph Curry shoe negotiation where the 594 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 9: same thing happened? 595 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: He told him Stephen Curry or Steve. 596 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 9: Okay, it was. It was one of these where they 597 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 9: they put up a presentation for like a different dude 598 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 9: or something like that. 599 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: All Right, Yeah, it doesn't It doesn't land great when 600 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: you don't know my name. 601 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 6: Michael Parson. 602 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: Michael Parson. 603 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's not like you just got one name wrong. 604 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 2: He got both names wrong. 605 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: All right. 606 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 9: Anyway, also said pot To, said Kettle, I hadn't heard 607 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 9: that one before about the raccoon, by the way, all right. 608 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 9: NFL Players Association JC Tretter resigned over the weekend, telling 609 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 9: CBS Sports quote, I'm resigning because this has gone too 610 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 9: far from me and my family, and I've sucked it 611 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 9: up for six weeks and I felt like I've been 612 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 9: kind of left in the wind taking shots for the 613 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 9: best of the organization. And in the end, what's the 614 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 9: organization done for me? Like nothing? Unquote. The resignation of 615 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 9: JC Tretder big deal, little deal or no deal. 616 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's a it's a no deal. Until you factor 617 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: in that the head of the NFLPA just resigned for 618 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: misappropriating funds. Right. Apparently, one of the things was he 619 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: he wrote off he got reimbursed for taking guys, taking 620 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: people to a strip club. 621 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 9: For growing the union. 622 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: Oops, it's the general mess. It is a big deal 623 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: because again, in and of itself, not a big deal, 624 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: but when he combined it with other stuff in the union, 625 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: big deal. And that's game time. 626 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: This is game time on the Dog Gottlieb Show. 627 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so we know that Jerry does things at his 628 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: own path, but why again, why not negotiate with mikeah Parsons. 629 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: We'll discuss text of the Doug Gotlieb Show