Speaker 1: Media. Something strange is going on. Another member of the
Speaker 1: Russian elites has been found dead.
Speaker 2: Reports suggests that he fell out of a window, poisoned
Speaker 2: with mushrooms.
Speaker 1: Died of heart failure, died of carbon monoxide poisoning.
Speaker 2: How comes you are they?
Speaker 1: Dozens of Russian oligachs, politically motivated millionaires have died in
Speaker 1: the space for three years, most of them in suspicious circumstances.
Speaker 1: Many have hidden links to the Kremlin. This is sad
Speaker 1: Oligach Season two, an ongoing investigation into these recently dead
Speaker 1: Russian power brokers. Sad Oligach is created by me Jake
Speaker 1: Hanrahan and my Ukrainian colleague Sergey Slipchenkong. This is a
Speaker 1: H eleven Studio and Coolso Media production. Last week, in
Speaker 1: part one of this episode, Tycoon in a Gulag I
Speaker 1: laid out the train of events that led to Aygor
Speaker 1: Kotlnikov's sudden death. He was a key part of a
Speaker 1: conspiracy to pinch pennies on a very large scale, WHI
Speaker 1: was providing produce for Russian military rations as they continued
Speaker 1: their invasion of Ukraine. Kotelnikov died somehow in a solitary
Speaker 1: confinement cell in a Moscow pre trial detention center. We
Speaker 1: still don't know much about his death, literally just the
Speaker 1: day and where it happened. July eighth, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: in a cell. Before Kotlnikov was announced dead, it said
Speaker 1: he was healthy and appeared generally okay. A human rights
Speaker 1: organization in Russia met with him in jail just days
Speaker 1: before he passed. Before we dig deeper into the other
Speaker 1: defendants around this strange case, I want to have another
Speaker 1: look at the detention centers themselves. Research shows that they
Speaker 1: are excellent places to have people killed in if you
Speaker 1: were so inclined. They've become a core tool of Putin's Russia.
Speaker 1: You'll see why this is relevant in a bit. Russia's
Speaker 1: pre trial detention centers are known colloquially as sizo's. It's
Speaker 1: a Russian acronym that means investigative isolation facility. Whilst Caeso's
Speaker 1: are often described as prisons. Now, they were never quite
Speaker 1: meant to be that. Jail's sure, but prisons not so much.
Speaker 1: Prison is where you go after conviction. Caeso's a replaced
Speaker 1: for the Russian authorities to turn the screws on you.
Speaker 1: They exist to apply pressure on an inmate before anything
Speaker 1: has fully been proven. You're in there until the final
Speaker 1: decision has been made a court. However, under Putin, this
Speaker 1: distinction between prison and jail has become largely meaningless in practice.
Speaker 1: Pre trial detention in Russia functions as punishment, leverage, and warning,
Speaker 1: all of this at the same time as you sit there,
Speaker 1: rotting in some of the worst conditions imaginable. Whilst Putin
Speaker 1: has added Caeso's to his tallkit of cruel weaponry, they
Speaker 1: weren't invented by him. These are inherited state structures that
Speaker 1: were planted as seeds by the nightmare of the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union's justice infrastructure. In the USSR, it was as simple
Speaker 1: as this, if you've been arrested, you're probably guilty. Pre
Speaker 1: Trial detention existed to isolate suspects, extract confessions, and prepare cases.
Speaker 1: It was by no means whereas suspects rights would be respected. Frankly,
Speaker 1: once in that system, your rights ceased to exist, at
Speaker 1: least as far as the Soviet authorities were concerned. The
Speaker 1: Soviet Union collapsed, Russia attempted reform in the country in
Speaker 1: the late nineties. They even signed up to adheer to
Speaker 1: European legal standards, considering the hypocritical authoritarianism of Europe's so
Speaker 1: called justice system. That sounds laughable now, but back then,
Speaker 1: in comparison with what the USSR had been up to,
Speaker 1: it actually meant something. And so as part of this
Speaker 1: attempt at reform, Russia transferred control of the detention facilities
Speaker 1: from the Interior Ministry to the Justice Ministry. On paper,
Speaker 1: this was meant to put an end to the abuse
Speaker 1: in the hellish limbo of pre trial detention jails. In reality,
Speaker 1: almost nothing actually changed. When Putin took power in the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, The so called reform period died quietly.
Speaker 1: Justice sectors were brought and the firm control of the
Speaker 1: new political elite. The result wasn't a return to gulags,
Speaker 1: but something subtler and more efficient. Detention centers were turned
Speaker 1: into pressure cookers for inmates awaiting trial. All of this
Speaker 1: was done legally with a wave of Putin's iron fist.
Speaker 1: These jails have been modernized just enough to remain functional
Speaker 1: or keeping the same core purpose total control. Most of
Speaker 1: the cazos used today were not freshly built under Putin.
Speaker 1: They are old, infested, structures. Some of them SAAREHST era
Speaker 1: prisons and former Soviet gulacs. They've been patched up here
Speaker 1: in there. But as we explained in the last episode,
Speaker 1: these caeizos are a nightmare. Putin era Russia focuses on
Speaker 1: consolidation of prison control as opposed to reconstruction and criminal reform.
Speaker 1: In that respect, it's just like the West. In these
Speaker 1: squalid cells. There's very little natural light and airflow is
Speaker 1: often non existent. There reguards everywhere, watching constantly as detainees
Speaker 1: are squashed together like sad deans and shut off from
Speaker 1: the outside world almost entirely. Remember this is not a
Speaker 1: place for the guilty, not officially anyway. The people inside
Speaker 1: are all await in trial. They're being punished before even
Speaker 1: seeing a jury. Now, don't get it confused. These buildings
Speaker 1: are not accidental relics. They're literally engineered and designed to
Speaker 1: make time drag and for personal autonomy to evaporate. In Moscow,
Speaker 1: especially Caeso's, are these huge brick compounds surrounded by high
Speaker 1: walls with spools of sharp razor wire and constant watch towers.
Speaker 1: They often sit just blocks away from offices, apartments, and
Speaker 1: metro stations, a looming specter for anyone who thinks to
Speaker 1: cross the state. For those who do and end up
Speaker 1: trapped in these monoliths, their life becomes defined by waiting
Speaker 1: and waiting and waiting, waiting for court dates, waiting for investigators,
Speaker 1: waiting for letters, waiting for a release date that may
Speaker 1: never come. These cells are high pressure containers for the worst.
Speaker 1: Days are sometimes due to nothing ever happening, at least
Speaker 1: not in regard to updates on a person's case. As
Speaker 1: I mentioned in Part one, the cells are us usually overcrowded.
Speaker 1: A space designed for four might hold six or eight.
Speaker 1: A place for six might hold over a dozen. Beds
Speaker 1: are narrow metal frames, often shared in shifts. In some facilities,
Speaker 1: beds are even folded up upright during the day, forcing
Speaker 1: detainees to stand or sit on the floors for hours.
Speaker 1: The toilets are usually just a metal bowl in the corner.
Speaker 1: There's no privacy, and some cells the lights stay on
Speaker 1: around the clock, often in cells without windows twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven halogen bulbs. Noise carries constantly through the corridors.
Speaker 1: Sleep becomes shallow, fragmented, and for some non existent. As
Speaker 1: for food, it's basic and repetitive. You get just enough
Speaker 1: to survive, but not enough to stay healthy. Medical care
Speaker 1: is minimal. Chronic conditions worse than mental health support is
Speaker 1: a complete myth. Inside Russia's Caizo's you're not only on
Speaker 1: your own, you're stock in conditions designed to make you
Speaker 1: lose your mind. In these facilities, Katelnikov would have been
Speaker 1: treated particularly badly. His crimes are essentially traitorous. He was
Speaker 1: stealing from Russian troops as they got pink misted out
Speaker 1: on the front lines of Ukraine. He became, in the
Speaker 1: eyes of the hypernationalist Putin government, an enemy of Russia.
Speaker 1: Now I actually know a charge to quote unquote enemy
Speaker 1: of Russia. He's a British born Ukrainian soldier who was
Speaker 1: taken as a prisoner of war. His name is Aidan Aslin.
Speaker 1: He was captured by Russian forces in April twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two in the east of Ukraine. Okay, now it's time
Speaker 1: for a quick adbreak, all right, enough for that, Now
Speaker 1: back to the shore. He was on the front fighting
Speaker 1: for the freedom of the country. He was captured and
Speaker 1: held in pre trialed attention for almost half a year.
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say about the conditions he experienced.
Speaker 2: There was like a filtration place. He took us there.
Speaker 2: That's when they started getting a bit more like rough
Speaker 2: like man handling. They put us in stress position against
Speaker 2: the wall, and then one way one they like processed
Speaker 2: all of us, and then eventually it came to me.
Speaker 2: I got a fucking punch of the nose and a
Speaker 2: few more punches around. It wasn't too hard, it was
Speaker 2: just like more more manhandling like punches, and then they
Speaker 2: told me to get on my knees. That's when I
Speaker 2: thought that maybe they're going to fucking might execute me
Speaker 2: or something like right here. And then they told me
Speaker 2: to get back up and fell back in, got taken
Speaker 2: to the Netsk. And when they loaded me into the car,
Speaker 2: like we were driving out the compound, and like one
Speaker 2: of them turned and said, like we're taking you to
Speaker 2: be shot. I pretended I didn't understand him, even though
Speaker 2: I understood what he said, I just like stayed quiet
Speaker 2: and just expected that this is how I die. Eventually
Speaker 2: we get to the Netsk. I've got a hood on
Speaker 2: at this time, well a plastic bag. I get taken
Speaker 2: to some place in the nets. I get taken out.
Speaker 2: They take the handcuffs off me, and then this guy
Speaker 2: says says something to me in Russia, and I didn't
Speaker 2: understand a word he said. And then me being me,
Speaker 2: I asked him to repeat himself because I didn't understand.
Speaker 2: As soon as I said that, like, I just got
Speaker 2: a hit around the head with police baton and then
Speaker 2: he also stabbed me on my left shoulder blade.
Speaker 1: He stabbed you with a knife. Yeah, mean, man, that's
Speaker 1: the police office though or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's some sort of weird like special police like investigation thing.
Speaker 2: It's like some Soviet bullshit. But yeah, they drove me
Speaker 2: into that building and then they beat you for like
Speaker 2: two hours, just asking those sorts of stupid questions. So
Speaker 2: when I was in the prison, I was in this
Speaker 2: cell block like five months, and it was it was
Speaker 2: basically the solitary confinement with this prison for the swimmers,
Speaker 2: they kept two people and they said for the POWs
Speaker 2: they kept like fucking in one of the cells I
Speaker 2: was in there, it was like five of us for
Speaker 2: like a two man like self. Like it was like
Speaker 2: super tiny cell. One of the guys had to sleep
Speaker 2: on the floor is concrete. So I was in this
Speaker 2: cell boop for five months. You had some pretty like nasty,
Speaker 2: statistic like prison guards there, but there was like one
Speaker 2: or two that were pretty all right, but like you
Speaker 2: would have like some that were just like the guy
Speaker 2: that would make us sing the anthem all day or
Speaker 2: just fucking trying to scare us, or the guy that
Speaker 2: liked to try and beat guys for reason.
Speaker 1: Now, of course, Aslyn was in a very specific situation
Speaker 1: during his detainment, but the way he was treated gives
Speaker 1: you an idea of what prisoner's rights mean in Russia.
Speaker 1: One of the most important features of the Putin era
Speaker 1: pre trial detention centers is how long you have to
Speaker 1: stay in them. These seizel detentions regularly last months, sometimes
Speaker 1: even years. Judges almost always approve extensions requested by investigators.
Speaker 1: Bail is rare, and house arrest is selectively applied. As
Speaker 1: Sergei said in Part one, Kotelnikov requested to go back
Speaker 1: to one of his big houses and rest up whilst
Speaker 1: on bail, but it was immediately denied by the judge.
Speaker 1: All of this turns the seizo into another weapon for
Speaker 1: the state. By the time the case reaches caught, the
Speaker 1: suspect has already been punished, even if they're later acquitted
Speaker 1: or given a light sentence, the damage has basically already
Speaker 1: been done. Investigators know it, defense lawyers know it, and
Speaker 1: the defendants of course definitely know it. In this hellish
Speaker 1: groundhog day of misery and detention, a confession can become
Speaker 1: a bargaining hip. Cooperation can lead to transfers, better conditions,
Speaker 1: or a faster case resolution. Resisting authorities, however, leads to
Speaker 1: total stagnation or worse. Many many people have died in
Speaker 1: these cazos under suspicious circumstances. To make matters worse, there's
Speaker 1: an unspoken social hierarchy inside the season. This is inherited
Speaker 1: from Russia's criminal underwe World gods officially deny any involvement,
Speaker 1: but in practice the system is often tolerated or quietly
Speaker 1: manipulated by them. Some even help to facilitate an inner
Speaker 1: detention criminal network, a sort of caizo mafia. Certain detainees
Speaker 1: are placed together deliberately. Informants might share cells with political
Speaker 1: prisoners or businessmen. Businessmen like Kotelnikov. Vulnerable prisoners can be
Speaker 1: exposed to pressure from hard and criminals. The state doesn't
Speaker 1: need to issue explicit orders. This way, the predesigned hostile
Speaker 1: environment does the work for it. Of course, violence doesn't
Speaker 1: always need to be physical. The threat of isolation, humiliation,
Speaker 1: or being labeled in prison culture as a weakling or
Speaker 1: a snitch is often enough to break people. There's a
Speaker 1: ton of this going on inside the Moscow Seizo, specifically
Speaker 1: where Kotelnikov was held. In fact, the Moscow detention centers
Speaker 1: are some of the most infamous in the whole of Russia,
Speaker 1: partly because that's where high profile cases end up. Places
Speaker 1: like Botraaka, Matroskaya, Tishina, and Lafortovo have a long histories.
Speaker 1: Lefortovo in particular is notorious, but in a different way.
Speaker 1: It's a former KGB prison that still operates under heavy
Speaker 1: FSB influence Putin's henchmen. Unlike most szo's, Lefortovo is quiet,
Speaker 1: too quiet. It's very different there. It's strictly controlled and
Speaker 1: much more hygienic than others, but that doesn't mean it's humane.
Speaker 1: The nightmare here is more psychological than physical. Detainees have
Speaker 1: described constant surveillance, strict silence, and extreme isolation. No shouting, talking,
Speaker 1: no noise, no sense of time. Contact with family is
Speaker 1: tightly restricted. Lawyers face regular stonewalling letters arrive late, if
Speaker 1: at all, it's a different kind of pressure. That's all
Speaker 1: to say that caeso's are used not only as a
Speaker 1: weapon of the state, but a sort of laboratory, a
Speaker 1: testing ground using experimental methods for abusing prisoners who were
Speaker 1: not even yet found guilty. Whilst it's said that Kotelnikov
Speaker 1: was in fairly good condition, the medical neglect in these
Speaker 1: places is literally a defining feature. Tuberculosis, skin disease, and
Speaker 1: untreated chronic illnesses are very common, not to mention psychological deterioration,
Speaker 1: which is almost guaranteed during long stays in Putin's caesos.
Speaker 1: Deaths in pre trial custody are usually quickly explained away
Speaker 1: as natural causes or suicides. Investigations are rare. Accountability is
Speaker 1: almost unheard of, so when Kotelnikov dropped dead in solitary
Speaker 1: with no explanation, no one was surprised that the jail
Speaker 1: did fuckal to investigate. Now you might be wondering why
Speaker 1: I am so focused on the detention centers themselves in
Speaker 1: part two of the episode. Well, it's not just Kotelnikov
Speaker 1: who died in one. Other defendants in his case also
Speaker 1: seem to have perished without a trace whilst awaiting justice.
Speaker 1: This politically inconvenient conspiracy of chain linked corruption involving stealing
Speaker 1: food from Russian soldiers went away swiftly, and it went
Speaker 1: away quietly. You see under Putin, Caesar's have become more
Speaker 1: than detention centers. They're a threatening signal in the dark.
Speaker 1: They show a businessmen what happens if you fall out
Speaker 1: of favor. They signal to activists what resistance will cost them.
Speaker 1: They even let ordinary everyday citizens know that legal protections
Speaker 1: are conditional. This sort of system doesn't even need mass
Speaker 1: physical repression. Stormtrooper boots on the tarmac are not always necessary.
Speaker 1: The Kremlin only needs enough visible abuse to maintain fear.
Speaker 1: A few people disappearing into pre trial detention for months
Speaker 1: or years does the job perfectly. Okay, now it's time
Speaker 1: for a quick outbreak, all right, enough for that. Now
Speaker 1: back to the shot. So now we know the true
Speaker 1: horror of the Russian pre trial detention center, the CAIZO,
Speaker 1: we can understand the context of Kotelnikov's situation a lot better.
Speaker 1: That puts his refusal to give evidence against Tima Ivanov
Speaker 1: into a different light. As we know now it would
Speaker 1: have likely been very beneficial as a bargaining ticket for
Speaker 1: Katelnikov to rat out Ivanov. So why didn't he? Well, first,
Speaker 1: let's understand who Tima Ivanov is. This from Man and
Speaker 1: Sergery's notes. Tiva Ivanov was born on August fifteenth, nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy five, in Moscow. Little information is available regarding his childhood.
Speaker 1: His father was from Moscow and his mother was from
Speaker 1: so Dagastan. That's all we can find. Timar Ivanov was
Speaker 1: a teenager when the Soviet Union began to unravel in disintegrate. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, he went on to receive a
Speaker 1: degree in applied mathematics from Moscow State University. In two
Speaker 1: thousand and four, he received another degree, this time in
Speaker 1: economics and finance. That same year, Tima Ivanov's father, Vadim Ivanov,
Speaker 1: became the general director of a company that manufactured light
Speaker 1: bulbs and other electrical devices. Keep this in mind, as
Speaker 1: this will come up again in a minute. Ivanov went
Speaker 1: on to receive and defend a PhD in economic sciences
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, focusing on financial and organizational models of
Speaker 1: nuclear power plant projects. Something very useful to the Russian government,
Speaker 1: although he was getting a higher education. Throughout the nineteen
Speaker 1: nineties and two thousands, Ivanov also went through several notable
Speaker 1: jobs during that time. For example, he was a vice
Speaker 1: president and then the first vice president of Adam Stroyer
Speaker 1: Export and russa Tom's engineering company, which helped construct nuclear
Speaker 1: power plants outside of Russia. He also worked as an
Speaker 1: advisor to the Minister of Energy of Russia between two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight and twenty twelve, and as the Director
Speaker 1: General of the Russian Energy Agency, which is part of
Speaker 1: Russia's Ministry of Energy part of the government. All of
Speaker 1: his positions were important in their own industries, and Ivanov
Speaker 1: certainly was doing well for himself by this point, but
Speaker 1: all of his previous roles pale in comparison to his
Speaker 1: professional speed run to the highest echelons of the Russian government.
Speaker 1: This started in May twenty twelve, when he was appointed
Speaker 1: as the deputy head of the Moscow Region, which was
Speaker 1: then led by none other than Sergei Shogu, the longtime
Speaker 1: Russian powerbroker who served as Defence Minister from twenty eleven
Speaker 1: until twenty twenty four. Remember, he was the one overseeing
Speaker 1: Russia's military, including the invasion of Ukraine. He was a
Speaker 1: big part of Putin's inner circle. Now, Tima Ivanov didn't
Speaker 1: keep this role for long, but that's only because following
Speaker 1: Shogu's appointment as Minister of Defense, Ivanov was assigned to
Speaker 1: leave Oberon stroy the Defense Department's personal construction company, which
Speaker 1: oversees all of the military's construction projects such as training facilities, hospitals,
Speaker 1: research institutions, and more. Apparently, Ivanov led that agency very well.
Speaker 1: Any project was assigned to him was completed quickly and
Speaker 1: to Putin's satisfaction, according to reports from that time. For example,
Speaker 1: shortly following Russia's annexation of Crimea in twenty fourteen, Oberon
Speaker 1: Stroyer was tasked with constructing a presidential cadet school, which
Speaker 1: Tima Ivanov made sure was completed in just three months.
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, following multiple successful projects, Ivanov received an
Speaker 1: award from Putin himself, called the Honored Builder of Russia.
Speaker 1: So clearly, at one point Tima Ivanov was very, very
Speaker 1: connected to the Kremlin. In the following decade, Ivanov continued
Speaker 1: to successfully complete projects until he became the Deputy Minister
Speaker 1: of Defense, a role which had him oversee the construction
Speaker 1: and maintenance of all things related to the Russian military.
Speaker 1: At his peak, Ivanov was a a first class State Advisor,
Speaker 1: the highest possible rank a civil servant can receive, and
Speaker 1: is on the same sort of level with an army
Speaker 1: general or a navy admiral. From what we can gather,
Speaker 1: Ivanov lived happily with his kids, a lot of money,
Speaker 1: and his second wife in Moscow while overseeing various components
Speaker 1: of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. He very much has blood
Speaker 1: on his hands. Of course, this has made him a
Speaker 1: target of Western sanctions. However, his wife apparently now lives
Speaker 1: in Western Europe and is living it up big time.
Speaker 1: We found out that she's been spending nearly a million
Speaker 1: US dollars to rent villas, yachts, and to purchase designer
Speaker 1: clothes priceless jewelry while her husband oversees the bloodshed caused
Speaker 1: by Russia in Ukraine. According to reports, Ivanov's wife received
Speaker 1: this money from companies that are doing reconstruction work in
Speaker 1: Russian occupied Maripol in Ukraine. This area was brutally raised
Speaker 1: the ground during the early stages of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Still,
Speaker 1: after all of this, on April twenty third, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: Ivanov's successful career and peaceful family life came crashing down
Speaker 1: around him. He was detained by the FSB on the
Speaker 1: suspicion that he had received a massive bribe. Perhaps that's
Speaker 1: what his wife was spending out in Western Europe. The
Speaker 1: following day, the detention became an official arrest, and Ivanov
Speaker 1: lost his government titles. According to the FSB investigation, Ivanov
Speaker 1: worked with companies which bribed him to grant them lucrative
Speaker 1: construction contracts from the federal government. On April twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: all of his official accounts and assets were frozen by
Speaker 1: the Russian government. This even included anything owned by his
Speaker 1: ex wife, his current wife, his five kids, and even
Speaker 1: his parents. By the time Ivanov received an official sentence
Speaker 1: of thirteen years in prison in July twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: he'd lost everything, including a Mercedes Benz, a Chevrolet Suv,
Speaker 1: and a fancy sports motorcycle. The government took it all
Speaker 1: off him and put it all to use elsewhere. Now,
Speaker 1: as I said at the start, keep a note of
Speaker 1: Ivanov's father and his company Crystal Development. From further research,
Speaker 1: it looks like that company ceased operations in November twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four and it was liquidated. Court documents suggests that
Speaker 1: the company received a number of government contracts. However, there
Speaker 1: were no details regarding what the government ordered or how
Speaker 1: much the contracts were worth. No official connection between father
Speaker 1: and son had been made, and no additional details can
Speaker 1: be found on Vadim Ivanov. All a bit fishy, and
Speaker 1: remember this is the man that Igor Kotelnikov was asked
Speaker 1: to turn witness against. The government wanted him to go
Speaker 1: to court and give evidence, but he said no, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do that, which resulted in him being
Speaker 1: put into solitary confinement and dying whilst in there. It's
Speaker 1: clear to me that there was a lot more at
Speaker 1: stake for Kotelnikov. Him and Tima Ivanov were involved in
Speaker 1: cross department embezzlement, bribery and theft, and were funneling money
Speaker 1: out of the country into their own coffers and making
Speaker 1: sure they lived a very nice life. I think it's
Speaker 1: highly possible that some kind of deal was made and
Speaker 1: that Katelnikov was killed as a warning to anyone else
Speaker 1: involved in this ring. Now there's another man in this
Speaker 1: story who was connected, who died at a very convenient
Speaker 1: time for anyone involved in this embezzlement case. His name
Speaker 1: was Magomed Kandaiev. He was a former official in Russia's
Speaker 1: Ministry of Defense and was overseeing the quote examination department
Speaker 1: as well as a military construction unit. Now, surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: he was hired and worked under Shogu and answered directly
Speaker 1: to Tima Ivanov. He was interrogated by investigators as a
Speaker 1: witness in the case of Ivanov, so he was not
Speaker 1: in the pre trial detention center, but he was brought
Speaker 1: in for questioning. This man could be a key part
Speaker 1: of the case in regards to giving evidence against the
Speaker 1: higher ups in this embezzlement ring. At least he could
Speaker 1: have been. Turns out, Maghamed Kandaiev is also dead. And
Speaker 1: get this, he died on July ninth, the exact same
Speaker 1: day as Aigor Katelnikov. Now there's no further information whatsoever
Speaker 1: about where or how, but we do know for certain
Speaker 1: that he died on this day, conveniently for the embezzlement
Speaker 1: ring higher ups, specifically the ones closest to putin all
Speaker 1: the witnesses to their further crimes are now six feet underground.
Speaker 1: What a stroke of luck You've been listening to? Sad
Speaker 1: Oliga season two Produced by H eleven Studios for Cool
Speaker 1: Zone Media. Writing, editing, producing, concept and recording by myself,
Speaker 1: Jake Hanrahan, Research and reporting by Sergei Slipchenko, me and
Speaker 1: Victim Mihail. Executive producing by Sophie Lichtman. Music by Sam Black,
Speaker 1: artwork by George Zutfu. Soundmixed by Splicing Block. See my
Speaker 1: other projects at Hanrahan dot Tv. Get me on social
Speaker 1: media at Jake under School Hanrahan. That's h A N
Speaker 1: R A H A M A cat The cat Cat,
Speaker 1: The Catholic, Catholic, Catholic, Catholic