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Speaker 1: takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with

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Speaker 1: Ben Maller starts right now. That it does, and I

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Speaker 1: hope you're doing well. Thank you for tuning into the

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Speaker 1: Fifth Hour, because four hours on the Overnight Show are

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Speaker 1: not enough, and you are in for a special treat

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Speaker 1: on this edition of The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben

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Speaker 1: Maller and David Gascon on the I Heart Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Because the o g one of my inspirations to get

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Speaker 1: be hanging out with us. The great Tony Bruno, the

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Speaker 1: legendary figure Tony Bruno, the forefather of network sports radio.

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Speaker 1: Tony started ESPN Radio and started Fox Sports Radio, and

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Speaker 1: we were recording the podcast. But it's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: I just I just have a good time. Twitter is

431
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Speaker 1: basically like the toys. It's like what sports radio used

432
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 1: to be. It's the toy store for people who want

433
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: to check in and have tough opinions about their favorite

434
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Speaker 1: teams and rip coaches and call for firings. I use

435
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: Twitter as pretty much to promote my brand and also

436
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 1: to have fun with with an income. Poops out there

437
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 1: in pictious positions of power. Not Joe Schmo on there,

438
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: because I'm just Schmo in there, just like anybody else.

439
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm better than anybody else. I don't

440
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 1: think my opinion matters more. But I love when people

441
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: who don't know anything about politics or sports tell me

442
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: that my opinion doesn't matter because they disagree with me.

443
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Speaker 1: I'm Tony, what's it like right now in Philly? Because

444
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 1: I was telling them this earlier, Like my normal Actually,

445
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: our commute to the studio from where we live as

446
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: anywhere from about an hour to an hour in ten minutes,

447
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: and now it's thirty minute drive. I mean, the streets

448
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: are nearly empty, and it's a rare occasion where obviously

449
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: you get to breathe clean air in Los Angeles, but

450
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Speaker 1: what about in Philly, Like, what's it been like around

451
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Speaker 1: town and how are people acting. Well, I don't go

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Speaker 1: out much. I mean I don't go out much anyway,

453
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 1: but it's pretty much ago. It's like everywhere else. I

454
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: live on a very busy My old neighbor actually moved

455
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Speaker 1: back to the same neighborhood I grew up in in

456
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: South Philly, which is a legendary area near the sports complexes,

457
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: and it's a very, very big restaurant neighborhood. I can

458
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: walk fifty yards and there's some of the best restaurants

459
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Speaker 1: in the country here and now they're all closed. So

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00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: that's what everybody is seeing around the country. Philly is

461
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 1: no different than any other big city. Streets are empty,

462
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Speaker 1: there's not a lot going on downtown. The businesses. A

463
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: lot of the businesses, the liquor stores are boarding up

464
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Speaker 1: their windows, and it's a really scary, like walking dead

465
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of feel to it. But I think people are

466
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Speaker 1: becoming a little more as as as anxious as everybody is,

467
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: as stir crazy as everybody is. I get out and

468
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: walk around MS Robin and I go take a walk,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, because there's nobody on the streets, so we're

470
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Speaker 1: not worry about getting into a big crowd of people

471
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Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff and the social distancing. But

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's trying to deal with this and being

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Speaker 1: stuck at home and having your TV on with all

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Speaker 1: the noise on the news channels. That's the best thing.

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Speaker 1: That's what I don't do. I watched the coronavirus thing

476
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Speaker 1: every day and then I turn it off, and so

477
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Speaker 1: that the more you stay away from the noise and

478
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Speaker 1: all the division and all the vitriol and all of

479
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Speaker 1: the all this that and this guy stinks and this

480
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: guy is not doing a good job. Uh, you try

481
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: to get that out of your head, which is what

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Speaker 1: I try to do. And then I go on Twitter

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Speaker 1: while I'm working downstairs preparing for my shows, and I'll

484
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Speaker 1: go back and forth with some people, and then for

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Speaker 1: the most part, I just watched like Science Channel. I'm

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Speaker 1: watching The Tiger King and all these other diversion. Everything's

487
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: that that everybody's watching now when they're stuck inside. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're I hope you're cooking is better than Ben's

489
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 1: because he's tempted to do a YouTube channel on cooking.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've ever had his cooking,

491
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: but it's not that good Tony. So if you do

492
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Speaker 1: Tony guest on, he's like he lives west of the

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Speaker 1: four oh five, you know, the l a landscape, Tony.

494
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Speaker 1: When you live west of the four or five different

495
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Speaker 1: cat you're not a normal person when you live west

496
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Speaker 1: of the four oh five. And exactly well, you know,

497
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Speaker 1: Miss Robin's a great cooking and Robin and I have

498
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Speaker 1: been on a Keto diet. So the funniest thing is

499
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Speaker 1: everybody's you know, sitting at home and eating and gaining

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Speaker 1: weight and you know, doing the normal things that I did.

501
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: When back last year, back in October November, I had

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Speaker 1: some surgery issues and I had like three different surgeries,

503
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: and so there weren't major, weren't life threatening, and they were.

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00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: They were just a pain in the asked literally in figuratively.

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Speaker 1: So I was going through this area where I was

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Speaker 1: having surgery and I couldn't walk around, I couldn't lift things.

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Speaker 1: So what did I do? I sat around like we

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Speaker 1: always do in the fall here on the East Coast,

509
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: when it gets cold and miserable out. You sit up

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00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: late at night. You're watching TV. You know, you're watching sports,

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00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: You're watching hockey, NBA, and you start eating stuff and

512
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Speaker 1: then it's eleven o'clock and you go get some ice

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Speaker 1: cream and then you wake and you're still up and

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Speaker 1: it's one o'clock. You know, when you're watching T n

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Speaker 1: T and the NBA on t V T T n T,

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Speaker 1: the post game from the West Coast, and you eat

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Speaker 1: and eat and eat till people put on a way

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Speaker 1: and I put on like thirty pounds. And so while

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Speaker 1: everybody's putting the weight on, now I'm actually losing the weight.

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00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: So we went on the keyto diet, and this Robin

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Speaker 1: is a brilliant at it. And even though you got

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Speaker 1: to give up the breads and as an Italian giving

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Speaker 1: up bread, giving a pizza, giving up those things, I

524
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: mean that's almost impossible. But we've been doing it and

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Speaker 1: I've lost fifteen pounds in less than a month, and

526
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: I got another ten to go and then I'll be

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Speaker 1: an optimum shape so that when everything is back to normal,

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Speaker 1: I'll be out there and I'll be able to come

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Speaker 1: back to l A. But the boy shorts on or

530
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: maybe the the speedos and go back on the Venice

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Speaker 1: Beach and hang out with all my boys and girls

532
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: down there, your old snoppy grounds in Venice Beach. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I got I, Well you're on. I gotta tell one

534
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: of my favorite Tony Bruno's stories and to show how

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Speaker 1: professional Tony was. The night of June nineteen, two thousand

536
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Speaker 1: and the Lakers had won a championship. We were broadcasting

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Speaker 1: doing local radio in l A. And that was the

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Speaker 1: Shaq Kobe, the first title together, and there was a

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Speaker 1: riot that broke out across right in front of Staples

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Speaker 1: and we were broadcasting from the corner studio, which was

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Speaker 1: the l A Live wasn't there, but we were in

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Speaker 1: a corner corner studio and I was doing a show

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Speaker 1: with Dave and then you came on. But but we

544
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Speaker 1: were like talking about what we were seeing as the

545
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Speaker 1: riot was kind of starting, and you were so professional.

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00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: You handled that so much better than we handled it,

547
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: because it was chaos down there, Tony that night. It

548
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: was insane. What was going on down there. Yeah. Again,

549
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: it's you know, you're, you're, you're the eyes and the

550
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: ears of everybody listening, and so the people who aren't there,

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Speaker 1: they want to hear something that's an accurate portrayal. And

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00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: so I always tried to be the en I've covered

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Speaker 1: news for so long, and I've covered events. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know at the Olympics and seventies six when the

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Speaker 1: Richard Do jewel thing at Centennial Olympic Park. I remember

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Speaker 1: being in l A and eighty four for the Summer Olympics.

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Speaker 1: John Madden and I and a couple of the producers, uh.

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Speaker 1: When I was at r k O radio in the

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Speaker 1: eighties with Keith Olberman and Charlie Steiner and those guys.

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Speaker 1: John Madden and I were in Los Angeles and we

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Speaker 1: were in the We were in Westwood Village because John

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Speaker 1: liked to go to the Pantry in l A all

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Speaker 1: the time. That was a favorite place downtown in l

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Speaker 1: A legendary place, the pantry, But then we were in

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Speaker 1: Westwood Village one night, going out for pizza and we're

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Speaker 1: sitting in a restaurant and there's a Kareem Abdul Jabbar

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Speaker 1: sitting at a table across from us. And this is

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Speaker 1: now eighty four where obviously the l A is buzzing,

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Speaker 1: the world's paying attention. The Summer Olympics are there, and

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Speaker 1: so John Madden obviously was huge, and everybody knew we were.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting there. All of a sudden, a couple of

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Speaker 1: which sounded like gunshots went off, and here we are.

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Speaker 1: And I remember this is pre nine eleven, but this

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Speaker 1: is during the Olympics, and all of a sudden, all

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Speaker 1: the fun and games and people looking around and talking

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Speaker 1: about it's John Man, there's uh, there's Kareem abdul Jabbar.

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Speaker 1: Everybody immediately freaks out and we had to go into

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Speaker 1: reporter mode. So I go run to a phone and

579
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Speaker 1: people are calling me on my phone and saying, what's

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00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: going on? Is there are terrist attacks? So people thought

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Speaker 1: there was a terror attack in Los Angeles and Westwood

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Speaker 1: Village there on the u c l A campus, and

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Speaker 1: so that's what happen. You've gotta be ready for that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Nobody goes out thinking that the world's gonna end for

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Speaker 1: that there's going to be a pandemic. But when you're

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Speaker 1: out in you hear gunfire or you here are somebody

587
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Speaker 1: crashing into a building. The first thing you do when

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Speaker 1: you instinctively you have been in the media business, and

589
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: I started out as a news reporter, gets to go

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Speaker 1: into that news reporter mode where you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you find out what's going on and you transmit

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Speaker 1: that information as responsibly as you can by scene what's

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Speaker 1: on the scene, and then talking to the people who

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Speaker 1: know what they're talking about. So I've always had that

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00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: inner instinct in me, so if something happens, I always

596
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: want to make sure I know what's happening and get

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Speaker 1: responsible information. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

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Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio app. Search f s R to listen live Tony.

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Speaker 1: I know, obviously we're we're in a downturn with the

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Speaker 1: way that the economy has been hit right now, and

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00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: and obviously with the industry itself sports and media coming

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Speaker 1: to a crashing halt. But how do you go about

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Speaker 1: your preparation now and just the way that you have

606
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: kept yourself, you know, chin up, head down type of mentality.

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Speaker 1: Because as you guys were talking about earlier, there there's

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Speaker 1: guys that are running thin on material or they're kind

609
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Speaker 1: of going through like the Mount Rushmore of sports and

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00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: on the other crap. But how do you go through

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Speaker 1: the process because I would imagine, I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: going to a baseball game, right, like no game is

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00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: ever the name as the next one. So for a show,

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Speaker 1: I can imagine this falling on one the same lines

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00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: for you. But what's the background for you in terms

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00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: of how you rev up to how you go Well,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing is when I started doing the twitch thing,

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Speaker 1: you know I could have just because I do it

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Speaker 1: from my home. So I walked down two flights of stairs.

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Speaker 1: Robin and I redid the house that we brought. So

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Speaker 1: we we remodeled it. The basement looks really nice. We

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Speaker 1: turned it into a little wine cellar, and so we

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Speaker 1: built a little studio down there. And again this is

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Speaker 1: this is long before any of this stuff where everybody's

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Speaker 1: doing shows in their basement studios now, and so we

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Speaker 1: had a nice little studio there and we did it

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Speaker 1: on Twitch. But I would do the same thing. Instead

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Speaker 1: of just mailing it in and going down and saying

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Speaker 1: I just wing it for two hours, I would prepare

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Speaker 1: just like I did for any other show that I've

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Speaker 1: ever done. So I get up at nine, we didn't

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Speaker 1: go on to one, and I would prepare for four

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Speaker 1: hours to do a two hour show. I would write

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Speaker 1: little notes done. I want to make sure I knew

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Speaker 1: everything was happening. And so once you get that up,

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00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: once you decide how you know what, I don't feel

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00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: like doing it today, I'm just gonna mail it in.

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00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: That's and you really don't want to do this anymore,

639
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: and you probably should just hang it up. But I've

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00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: always tried to approach thing that things with great preparation.

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: I didn't need to write scripts. I would just write notes.

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00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: I have all the scores that have anything I needed.

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Speaker 1: The point spreads, because we've always done this, you know

644
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: the stone called Locks, and now it's bigger than ever.

645
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: So I've always tried to be overprepared. And most of

646
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: the times I'll have more material than I even could

647
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: possibly use on the show, and so we incorporate music

648
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: and video and stuff Robin does a great job. We

649
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: pull up the funniest videos and being on Twitch, I

650
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about profanity and things. And we

651
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: didn't curse intentionally, just a curse. But if there's a

652
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: video that has profanity in it, or a song we

653
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: play an old school rap song, we don't have to

654
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: play the watered down versions. And so that's one of

655
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: the fun things about doing radio. We don't have to

656
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: worry about the FCC, and you don't do things just

657
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: to be outlandish, but you can do things that you

658
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: can't do on regular radio. And that's been part of

659
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: the front of the Twitch part. And now the Twitch

660
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: will remain on when I'm on the Serious channel, and

661
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: so they'll so there'll be a video component which you

662
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: can still see on the Twitch channel, Twitch dot tv,

663
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: Slash Tony Bruno Show, and also on Sirious x eppisode

664
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Speaker 1: to have the video coupon. Not to anybody wants to

665
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: see me talking on TV. But it's not just talking

666
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: on TV. We do crazy stuff in the in the basement.

667
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: We'll play darts. I'll go up and play drums when

668
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: when the music song and there's a good drum riff,

669
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: I'll just get my drumsticks and bang them on the

670
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: on the desk. You stupid stuff, stupid stuff that people

671
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: find funny, and that's what it is. And you know

672
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: it's you're having fun. And if I don't have fun anymore,

673
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: I'll have to be dead or I won't be doing

674
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: this anymore, or whichever comes first. There you go, and

675
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know, Tony, that the Fox Sports

676
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: Radio Studios since you left have not changed at all.

677
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: It's same equipment, same computers, same everything's the same they have.

678
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: It's like a museum there, Tony, since you left, I

679
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: want you to know that. Yeah, but it's it's still

680
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 1: uh do Pete Rose still go to the restaurant right

681
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: across the street there on Venture and Spolita. No. Rose

682
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: moved to Vegas and that restaurant changed, that Italian restaurant

683
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: over there's no a longer. Now it's a bar and

684
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: bar restaurant. Yeah it's not. It's not the same setup

685
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: that place closed a couple of years ago. Yeah, he's

686
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: pets moved on. I thought maybe been telling me that

687
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio Studies went back to being a Denny's,

688
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: which it was originally before they converted into the Fox

689
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: Sports Radio and that was a great studio there. I

690
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: can't believe you're disrespecting the beautiful studio facilities with the

691
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: double bulletproof glass on the outside of the filding and

692
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: on the inside of the building. That's right. And and

693
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I was there and years ago and they did somebody

694
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: did uh shoot at the at the studio. Listen, Tony.

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00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I love you man. You're the greatest dominate on serious

696
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: x M. And I'm so happy you're back. I can

697
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: hear you now, everyone can hear you in the afternoon.

698
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: And you're the o G man. Good luck to you. Thanks, guys,

699
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: really appreciate man. Always great to talk to you about him.

700
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: I have to catch up soon. All right, that was awesome,

701
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: big thanks Tony. Bruno loved love chatting with Tony. We

702
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: have a little time left, gast scout, so we can

703
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: do some grab bag. Is that all right? Yeah? Are

704
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: we gonna have a mom it where you can actually

705
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: read to me some of the positive emails that you

706
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: are purposely confiscating from our general inbox, because I heard

707
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: a rumor or two that you've been doing that of

708
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: the last month. Not at all. I've not received any

709
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: positive messages about you. When I do, I will start

710
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: laughing and know the show is not going well at

711
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: that particular moment. But we have some random questions. Let's

712
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: get to as many of these as we can, guess,

713
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: because we don't have a lot of time, because we

714
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: love talking to Tony and and all that. This one's

715
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: from Carlos and Houston. He says, Ben, when did the

716
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Speaker 1: Curse of the ben Binos starting? And when will it end? Uh?

717
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: Those are great questions, Carlos. The curse of the ben Bino,

718
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: the term curse of the ben Bino started. There was

719
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: a caller from Detroit in the early days of the

720
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: show at Fox Motor City. Mike, I believe was the

721
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: night the guy's name, and he was a newspaper delivery

722
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: guy in Detroit, and he started figuring out that every

723
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: time I made a bold prediction, and I would predict

724
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: things that should happen that most people thought were going

725
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: to happen that didn't happen. And then he's like, you know,

726
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: you're cursed. You've got the curse of the Benbino. And

727
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: then that's kind of how it started. It's gonna end

728
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: when the Clippers when the NBA Championship, which will be

729
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: in December of this year, when the NBA c C

730
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: comes back with Cohi Leonard. Uh so that's when it's

731
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna end. Uh. Let's see r J and san Antonio

732
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: rights and he says with no sports on, has this

733
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: been the hardest time in your career as a sports

734
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Speaker 1: radio host? Uh, I'm gonna actually go no on that,

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Speaker 1: r J. Uh I and and maybe it will change.

736
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Speaker 1: But I've been okay, I've been. I mean there's not

737
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: a lot. You know. One of my faults, I'm a

738
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: type A personality, and so when times are normal and

739
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: there's a ton of stuff to choose from, Uh, those

740
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: are actually harder times for me because I don't I

741
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: don't want to do something that's not an A story.

742
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't want do something that's an A story. Uh,

743
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: we'll only do any story I don't want to do,

744
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: like lower stories. So I will sometimes overlook certain things

745
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: and be hyper focused on getting only the biggest stories,

746
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: only the most interesting stories. But now there's not enough.

747
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of variety, so the options are

748
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: limited on what we have to talk about. So it

749
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: hasn't been that hard. There's still a little bit of

750
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: information every day that we can talk about and kick around.

751
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: So surprisingly, no, the couple of weeks after nine eleven,

752
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: we're really that was the hardest time for me doing

753
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. I think are our podcast had

754
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: had you prepared for for this moment? Because are you

755
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: taking credit for this, guest go No, No, I'm not

756
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: taking credit for I'm just saying, like what we did

757
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: with the podcast because we had Beny Versus the Penny,

758
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: which embarked in September to open up Week one or

759
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: nineteen football season. But everything else we've done on the podcast,

760
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: We've talked about fasting, we've talked about different elements of

761
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: this podcast, and most of it is not sports related.

762
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: So the conditioning aspect for you when you go through

763
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: a three four hour show and now onto this is

764
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: that's you've already been trained, or I guess you've already

765
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: your mind has already been trained to go off the

766
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: beaten path and not always take like the low hanging

767
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: fruit that everybody else does in the sports world. Well,

768
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Speaker 1: I've always tried to do a little things a little different.

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00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be like everyone else.

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00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: I can't I can't stand most of the things I hear,

771
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: so I don't want to do that, So I always

772
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: have to have your unique smith. But it's an answer.

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Speaker 1: R J gett. I don't know, it's not. It might

774
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: get to that point, but we're not quite at that point. Um,

775
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: and who else do we have? A guy from Maple Grove, Minnesota?

776
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: Did not write the guy's name down? Bad job by me,

777
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: uh says Why do most of the Ben Mall Show

778
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: regular callers make Joe Exotic look completely sane? Did you

779
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: watch the Tiger King gas No, I was texting. I

780
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: was texting your wife, I said. I got through the

781
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: first episode. I wanted to kill myself. These people, what's

782
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: wrong with your dude? Oh, they're entertaining cartoon characters not entertaining. Well, listen,

783
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: you're west of the four oh five. For us common people,

784
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: it's entertaining. It's everyone loves a freak show. They're just

785
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: guy Joe Exotic, flamboyantly gay guy that collects big pats

786
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: and lives in Oklahoma. Not it's in the world we

787
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: live in right now. He gets to peek in on

788
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: the other side. It's I was compelled by and I

789
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: thought it was very well done with the production value

790
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: was great. They had some real characters, not just Joe Exotic.

791
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: They had the guy from Inside Edition who was the videographer.

792
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: They had the you don't know any of this stuff

793
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: because you didn't watch No thankfully I do not. I'm not.

794
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but but no. I said on the show

795
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: that Joe Exotic seems like a kind of guy that

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00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: would be one of my callers, you know. He seems

797
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: like he would fit in with Doc Mike or Mark

798
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: the full name guy, or any of these people. So

799
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Kenn and Talita writes in this this grab bag actual

800
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: questions by actual listeners, Kent says, uh, Benn, and guesscon

801
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: have you ever weighed yourself then taken a ship and

802
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: then weighed yourself after to see how much your ship weighed?

803
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: So from Ken, you ever done that? Yeah? So what

804
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: I did do is I weighed myself, took a deuce, showered,

805
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: and then weighed myself again, and I lost a couple

806
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: of pounds. Don't you weigh less early in the day?

807
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: Was it late? It's early in there? You want to

808
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: weigh yourself in the morning, Yes, especially when you're in

809
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: an empty stomach. So not drinking any water. I assume

810
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Speaker 1: if you're slept the least seven or eight hours, you

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00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: haven't eaten for maybe ten hours. Um, that's usual when

812
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: you're at your lightest. I don't understand why people go

813
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: to the gym and way themselves and they weigh themselves

814
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: at night, Like that doesn't do anything. I mean, you're

815
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: you're at your heaviest at that point. Yeah. Um, what

816
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: I do when I go to the doctor's office, every

817
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: one song they weighed me. And if I don't like

818
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: the number that they put, I just assume it's because

819
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: I have my keys in my wallet. My keys in

820
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: my wallet weighs seventeen pounds. Your shoes too, probably right,

821
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: my shoes, yeah, my exactly. I'm like, OK, well, I

822
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: don't wait that much. I mean my shoes, my wallet,

823
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: my keys, that's gotta be like twenty five pounds altogether

824
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: plus clearly plus right, and plus your pajama clothing now,

825
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: which is like three inches too big on the waist

826
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: and what like? Shame me? Richard in Texas writes, and

827
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: he says, Ben and guests, God, which HBO series would

828
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: you consider better? Arless? Or curb your enthusiasm? All right?

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Speaker 1: I'll go first. This is this is not even close. Now.

830
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I liked Arless back in the day, and I watched Arless,

831
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: but Curb Your Enthusiasm is a masterpiece. It's masterpiece theater.

832
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Not even close. That is a k oh first round.

833
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson Early Days Tyson knockout for Larry David and

834
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: Curb Your Enthusiasm? Why was this so good for you?

835
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Before I answer, why was it so good for you?

836
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: Curb Enthusiasm? I just love that brand of humor, Like

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00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I've I've lived my email. Larry David's

838
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: a character on a TV show, Like a lot of

839
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: things that I have experienced in my life are relatable,

840
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: Like I have the same when I go out. I

841
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: hate the annoying things in life, and I I've complained

842
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: about those things way before Curb Your Enthusiasm. So it's

843
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: it's just resonating. It's preaching to the choir, which I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, the reason why I ask is because

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Speaker 1: I have not watched either of those shows, but so

846
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Speaker 1: out of hold HBO the two best series that I've

847
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: ever watched on there, not Game of Thrones, but The

848
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: Wire and True Detectives. So I've never seen The Wire

849
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: or True Detective. I love the Sopranos. That was a

850
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: great show back in the day. That's to me, the

851
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: top show that HBO has had is The Sopranos. But

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Speaker 1: Curb Your Enthusiasm is just outstanding. Well, I mean, you

853
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Speaker 1: have to watch The Wire. The Wires, I mean True

854
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Detective season one is the best of the three that

855
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: they they showcased. But The Wire season one to season five.

856
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: It talks about all the nuance in the city of Baltimore,

857
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: police politics, the dock workers, the kids in the school system,

858
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: like it encompasses everything of that city. Um, you have

859
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: to watch it, man, and it's that good. Well you

860
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: got time, now, that's a good point. I do have

861
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: a lot of time, plenty. We all have a lot

862
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: of time. It's grabbed bag. These are actual questions by

863
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: actual listeners. Ethan in akron A k Ethan in Detroit

864
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: writes and he says, what's the worst thing you can

865
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: do while pursuing a career in sports media? So this

866
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: guy Ethan is looking for some career advice on how

867
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: to get into the media business. Well, my advice, Ethan is,

868
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the worst thing you can do.

869
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that I noticed, the reason

870
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't make it is not because

871
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: a lack of talent. It's that they give up. And

872
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: it's a business that will wear you down, and much

873
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: like anything, only the strong survive. And I've noticed that

874
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people, if they don't get to a

875
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: certain point and become a kingpin in the media business

876
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: after an X number of years, they're like, Okay, I'm

877
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: just not gonna make it. I'm gonna go do something else.

878
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's the wrong at it. That's a

879
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: that's a loser's mentality. So I think you just gotta

880
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: have tenacity, and you've got to continue, and you've got

881
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: a network and all that. But I think that's the

882
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: biggest mistake. The worst thing I see from people is

883
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: they just give up. They don't try. What about you guess?

884
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: I think to echo that or a piggyback off of it,

885
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: I would say not having any goals. I think for me,

886
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: I went from a career and stability in real estate

887
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: to starting my entire life over when I went to

888
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: grad school. So when I got out of grad school,

889
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: I went and worked for two public access channels here

890
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: in l A making a dime with a master's degree

891
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: for an entire year. And when I got my first

892
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: job was with the I Heart San Diego. I took

893
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: the job as a board operator. If everyone that listens

894
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: to your show knows who Roberto is. I was doing

895
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: his job part time for ten dollars an hour, and

896
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: I was doing that Monday through Friday. I was getting

897
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Speaker 1: paid six dollars every two weeks. But when I first started,

898
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: I wrote down goals, like in terms of how I

899
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: want to ascend, what I wanted to do for work.

900
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Speaker 1: I eventually got my first on air opportunity six months

901
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: after I got in the door, and then I became

902
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Speaker 1: the game day host the Chargers, the game day host

903
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: of the San Diego State Aztecs. Then I started getting

904
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: play by play work in San Diego, then in Riverside,

905
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: and then eventually I moved up to l A to

906
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: work with you fourteen months after I started at My

907
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: Heart San Diego. But I had goals and had benchmarks

908
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: and things I wanted to do. So if you have

909
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: goals down, it puts in the front of your mind like, Okay,

910
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: this is what you got to do and there's your objectives.

911
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: I think one of the thing is you can't be

912
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: cavalier with your social media because there's always eyes on

913
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: you Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. You can't do stupid shit on

914
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: there because you'll get either exposed or will come back

915
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: and bite you eventually. And those are the two things.

916
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: So acid wash your social media, thankfull you get into

917
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: the business. Or if you're gonna have to have someone

918
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: help you out, yeah, I've helped a few people out

919
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: over the Year's guest And look to my counsel too.

920
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: I know a couple of tricks on how to erase

921
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: certain certain things that are in your past on social

922
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: media that that can come back to haunt you. Absolutely.

923
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: Jason and Bakersfield Right City says what sport would be

924
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: the funniest to add a mandatory amount of alcohol too?

925
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Al Right, I think the obvious one would be hockey,

926
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: al right, seeing guys try to skate when they're completely snockered, yeah,

927
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: liquored up, but anything would be more. We see guys

928
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: played softball completely hammered. Right, Um so, man, I wouldn't

929
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: want to have our all this chatman throwing at me

930
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: while intoxicated, but you might. I mean if he's schnockered,

931
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: he might not be able to throw it straight, so

932
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: he might not hit you right. He could be so

933
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Speaker 1: sloshed up the ball sales into the second deck. Maybe

934
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm a right handed batter, so he throws a slider

935
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Speaker 1: that things hitting me, eating the hip or the dick like.

936
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Either way, I'm getting dotted by that thing. So well,

937
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: when you were playing back in the day, guest Gun,

938
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Speaker 1: you had first base with Scotch, second base was Whiskey,

939
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Speaker 1: third base with bourbon, right run around the basis at home.

940
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Speaker 1: Home plate was all of it? Yeah, home plate was

941
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: was all the above. There. Let's see. This is Colin

942
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 1: in Denver listening to the fifth Hour right soon. He says,

943
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: have either of you guys found anything similar to sports

944
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: to watch that isn't reruns? And will this pandemic help

945
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: to legitimize sports in general? Well, listen, Coy, I guess

946
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: we'll take the last part. I think that's the more

947
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: interesting question. No offense, comb um, But will this legitimize

948
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: the sports? I'm not convinced. I think people are watching,

949
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: and the ratings have been very good for for e sports.

950
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: Uh so far, people, millions of people have been watching

951
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: these things, But I think it's more a product of

952
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: the times that if you had a game with real

953
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: human beings actually playing to watch that, more people would

954
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: watch that and less people would watch the sports. But

955
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: when you have no other options, you watch this. You know,

956
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: when you have only one channel to watch, you're gonna

957
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: watch that one channel more than you're not going to

958
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: watch the channel. So I'm not convinced that this coronavirus

959
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: pandemic is going to lead to the new normal being

960
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: e sports. But I know it's a hell of a

961
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: lot cheaper to put an e sports game on, and

962
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: it is to put a real professional sports game on.

963
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: I know that, yeah, And and to piggyback off of that,

964
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: to Ben, I would rather it's like having an automated

965
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: umpire as opposed to a human being behind the dish.

966
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: Like it's nice to have someone accurately called balls and

967
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: strikes properly, but there's something very human and great about

968
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: dishing it out to an umpire, whether you're for him

969
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: or against him, whether he has a liberal strike zone

970
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: or it's really conservative, there's something about that that you

971
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: take away with automation. I don't want to watch a

972
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: kid or an adult playing video games. I want to

973
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: see people competing out there in the cord or on

974
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: the ice or in the field of play, like there's

975
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: there's no substitute. And you'll find that out the hard

976
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: way if we don't have an NFL or college football season. Yeah, yeah, boy,

977
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: don't say that. I come on, I mean, you know,

978
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: watch your mouthought with soap and one what's wrong with

979
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: you is say that. Don't even put that out in

980
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: the world. What's wrong with you? All right? Jeff in Clarksville, Indiana,

981
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: right scenes just across the Ohio River from Louisville, Kentucky,

982
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: He says, pull the magic radio curtain back and give

983
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: us an inside look. What is something in the radio

984
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: business that goes on behind the scenes that the normal

985
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: listener has no idea goes on? Uh? Well, I mean,

986
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: in some ways I can answer this. I think the

987
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: one thing that I've been eye opening. I don't see

988
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: it that often, but every once in a while. Over

989
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: the years, I've worked with different people, and um, I'm

990
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: always amazed by the guys that just kind of skate

991
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: by and don't prepare. And sometimes you listen to these

992
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: shows you think, oh man, this guy's been preparing all day.

993
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: And I've known a few people that have worked in

994
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: the business that literally show up two minutes before the show,

995
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: haven't done any preparation, and they just it's called rip

996
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: and read whatever the top stories are on the sports websites.

997
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: They just kind of make it up as they go,

998
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: and those people are exposed, they don't last very long.

999
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: But that's that's something that I've seen behind the scenes

1000
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people assume if you

1001
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: have one of these jobs, that you work hard, you're prepared,

1002
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: air and all that, and it's not not always the case,

1003
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: not always the case at all. What about you guess, Yeah,

1004
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: they call that, whether it's in college baseball or in

1005
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: minor league baseball, they call it stretch and go. And

1006
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: usually it's in the final game of a three or

1007
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: four game series where the home or where the road

1008
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: team will come in and they won't even take batting practice.

1009
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: They'll warm up, they'll stretch, and then they just hit

1010
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: the diamond and play the game. And that's exactly what

1011
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about. It is amazing to me the amount

1012
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: of work that certain producers will will do and provide

1013
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: for the talent that's either on television or radio, and

1014
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: that individual man or woman has the slightest clue about

1015
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 1: what's going on. And that's for live TV and that's

1016
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: for regular shows as well. So that is there's one thing.

1017
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's uh earth shattering, but

1018
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: I think along the lines of that, there's also a

1019
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: lot of box score television, a lot of box score radio,

1020
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: and just basically you and I coming into the studio.

1021
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: All the Dodgers played the Ace today and they want

1022
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: seven and nothing, but you're just going through this box

1023
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: score to see who did what and who didn't and

1024
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: obviously just talking about the low hanging fruit that's there too,

1025
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: and that happens more often than you think. Yeah, you

1026
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: can tell when they don't actually watch the games. So

1027
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: we don't break down games very much these days in

1028
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: sports or over nothing right now, But even when games

1029
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: are going on, we it's only usually playoff games like

1030
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: big games that will break down. But otherwise we're talking

1031
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: about the stories around around the games. All right, we'll

1032
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: ask you. We got I've got a few questions in right,

1033
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: that's a good amount of questions. I want to end

1034
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: one more. You want me to give you one more?

1035
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: One more. Let's do one more, one more shot. Uh,

1036
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: let's see here. This is from Mike in Upper Michigan. Formally,

1037
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: he's the guy guesscon that invited weed Man. He tried

1038
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: to help weed Man and gave him a place to stay,

1039
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: and then weed Man said he accused me of having

1040
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: him kidnapped. Nut job. I feel bad. Mike was a

1041
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: nice guy opening his home to lead Man. And and

1042
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: and that's the thanks, that's what we get anyway. Um.

1043
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: He says, what are your worst accidental grocery store purchases? Does?

1044
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: His top three are creamy peanut butter, oatmeal raisin cookies,

1045
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: tuna packed in oil. Uh. He says those are his

1046
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: worst accidental I don't mind creamy peanut butter. I'm fine

1047
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: with that. The oatmeal raising, yeah, I don't like oatmeal

1048
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: raisin cookies. I'm trying to think, like I've tried, I

1049
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: don't really buy things. I don't need these dies. I

1050
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: go to the grocery store, I'm like, I'm I got

1051
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: laser focused guest, laser like focus. Okay, I go in there,

1052
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: I get what I need. I very rarely go off

1053
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: the reservation and get somebody I'm not supposed to get.

1054
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: But back in the day, my big eating days, when

1055
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: I was big fat tub of goo man, I would

1056
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: go in there and with any new flavor of Oreo cookies,

1057
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: you know they used to try all these news I

1058
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: would buy those. Any kind of weird ex A chip flavor,

1059
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: I would pick that up, and you know, gallons of

1060
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: grape soda and all that. I would just go for

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Speaker 1: weird stuff west of the four oh five you picked up? No,

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to be a fat ass. I would

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Speaker 1: always buy or get stuff that looked healthy, like vegetables

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Speaker 1: or fruit. And anytime I wanted to pick out whether

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Speaker 1: I'm eating, like frozen pizza or ice cream or ice

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Speaker 1: cream bars, I'd always put it at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: my cart so that way it looked like I was

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Speaker 1: stacking everything with like healthy food. It's healthy, So people

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Speaker 1: walking by me or go into the cashier's desk, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't getting judged. Yeah, well, that's like the people that

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Speaker 1: would eat the salad and then you just put like

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Speaker 1: a gallon of salad dressing on top, so you might

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Speaker 1: as well just eat a big mac. It's the same

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Speaker 1: amount of calories. What are you doing? You know that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing? Yeah, which is really the only way

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Speaker 1: to eat a salad is just to pour a ton

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Speaker 1: of salad dressing on top of the ranch. Please, no wretch.

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Speaker 1: A thousand island that was an island is my addressing

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Speaker 1: of choice. That's that's what I go for. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: that is it, Gascon. Thank you. Another a wonderful edition

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Speaker 1: of the Fifth Our. Thanks again to Tony Bruno. Love Tony.

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Speaker 1: Very excited to have a chance to talk to him.

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Speaker 1: It's been the first time in several years that I've

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Speaker 1: been able to catch up with the o G of

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Speaker 1: sports radio. Now. Hey, follow us on social media. I'm

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Speaker 1: on The Graham on Instagram, Ben Maller on Fox. You

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Speaker 1: can follow me on there also Ben Mallard Show on

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Speaker 1: Facebook and on Twitter. Ben Mallard Gistcon. You're also around

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Speaker 1: those parts. Yes, on Twitter, I'm at David J. Gascon

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Speaker 1: and The Graham. I g I'm at Dave Gascon. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so thanks, tell a friend about the podcast. Be safe.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you back on the radio in probably just

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Speaker 1: a few hours, who knows, depending how you look at it.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to you then. Thanks.