1 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Hey everybody. Chris Harry with you on Chargers Weekly here 2 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. A bit later, 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: my conversation with head coach Anthony Lynn, who discusses his 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coaching tree, plus a message for Chargers fans. 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: We'll also bring you Coach Lynn and Tom Telesco's press 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: conferences from the Combine in their entirety, but first ten 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: draft questions answered for Chargers fans by ESPN's Matt Bowen 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: here with the front of the podcast recurring guests. One 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: of my favorite guests, Matt Bowen, joins me on Chargers Weekly. 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: Hey you doing Matt, I'm doing great. I'm good to 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: be back in India. It's been about about eight or 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: nine years doing this in the media. Yeah, I'm say 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: it ran here a long time ago in the old 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: RCA dome. Yeah. Well, I have to ask you what's 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: it like for you now? Like, what are you doing 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: this week with the media. For me, it's really looking 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: obviously at the prospects. You start with the way ends 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna look at the testing. But what 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: I do is I take what I've seen on tape 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: and apply to the testing to the numbers match up, 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: there's something that jumps and pops out in the workout. 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: And he said, well, is there something I need not 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: need to go back and look at on the tape? 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: And for me, it's getting more into the draft prospects 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: and then projecting their talent and trying to figure out 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: some team fits from there. And also we got free 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: agency coming up. Yeah, so are you looking at Kirk 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: Cousins case Keenum, where are these guys and end up 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: what's their best fit? So that's really what I'm doing 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: this week is projecting and trying to find the best 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: fit for the Vets and the young kids. That's gonna 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: set the table. Fridge is gonna set the table for 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: the draft and we'll know who's gonna get quarterbacks in 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: April based on where Kirk Cousins goes and some of 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: these other Vets go. Yeah, and I really think it's 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Cousins first. Yeah, we have to see where Cousins goes. 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously, if you're talking about best fit, 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: the best fit for him, I think it's Minnesota And 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I think that makes Hi maybe one of the Super 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Bowl favorites. You only have one defense to album. Cook 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: coming back proven past scatters, You're gonna be in a 42 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: West Coast offense, heavy play action. He's an accurate quarterback. 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Here's thinking about Kirk Cousins that we don't talk about enough. 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: And this is what the draft prospects coming out, and 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: this is why some people missing to Shaun Watson last year. 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: The intangibles. Okay, if I'm on your team, I want 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: a quarterback is tough. You know, I was lucky enough 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: to play two years of Brett Farve and that's the 49 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: ultimate toughness right there. Yeah, And that is leadership on 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the field, and it brings energy to the entire team, 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: the entire locker room, the way you practice, the way 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: you prepare if you know your quarterback and take hits 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: and get up and lead you down the field. And 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: go back to the Seattle tape this year when there 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: Washington was out in Seattle, what he did in that 56 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: final drive taking hits and that was impressive, throwing dimes 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: down the field. We don't talk about that enough with Kirk. 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not gonna put Kirk Cousins in 59 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: the top tier group, you know, with brings and those 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: guys not gonna do it, but is in that second tier? 61 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: Can he win a title with the number one defense? 62 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: Of course he can. Yeah, he was a late round pick. 63 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: You were a later royal pick and combine was it 64 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: two thousand for you? Two thousand? What was that experience 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: like for you? Well, it was a lot different. We 66 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: didn't have this meeting. There's no podcasts weekly the it was. 67 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: It was a little different. And here's how I look 68 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: at the combine. It's a job interview. It's part of 69 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: your resume, and every time you go out as an athlete, 70 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: your job is autograph your resume. Okay, so everything you 71 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: do with the combine is watched when you're taking written 72 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: exams like I did, when you're in individual team interviews, 73 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: when you're on camera, when you're doing the different testing, 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: and back then was different. We to do what was 75 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: called the scibex leg test, and it's kind of like 76 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: a leg extension. You see it. You know your local gym, right, 77 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: and you have to wrap it out as many times 78 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: you can't till you burn out. And they slew that 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: day before the forty Are you serious? Oh yeah, So 80 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: you wake up the next morning your quads feel like bricks. 81 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: But here This is why you're not gonna run your 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: best time here. You can run your best time at 83 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: your protec. Yeah, okay, you're gonna if you're a quarterback, 84 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna throw a better your produc. You have better 85 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: back pedals, a defensive back reproduc. They want to see 86 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: you in the most adverse situation, adverse environments, see how 87 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: you respond. Yeah, that's by design, right, yea, yeah, let's 88 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: want to see how you compete, compete. So there's no 89 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: reason not to work out here. I always tell you know, 90 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: players coming out work out here, you're gonna do better. 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: You prode. They're still gonna take your best time. Okay, 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: because even the times we watch on TV, the electronic times, 93 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: the Scotts still have the stop watchers for a reason. 94 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: They still take their own personal times. So come here 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: and compete. Go through the interview process and let everyone 96 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: know who you are as a person. That's the thing. 97 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: They can see your competitiveness, your toughness, untake. They want 98 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: to they want to meet you. They want to ask 99 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: questions about your family. One time, it's already an interview 100 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: with the priest. Really yeah, well the team chaplains was 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: the priest and I sat down to the twenty minutes 102 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: he was in the interview. Yes, that's amazing. So you 103 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get. You don't know what 104 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: you get. You have to be prepared for everything. But 105 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: just be yourself. Let them know who you are as 106 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: a person. They know who you are a football. Do 107 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: you remember what the priest ask you? I don't. I don't. 108 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: I was nervous. I felt like I was in confession again. 109 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I grew up Catholic, so caused in confession booth again. 110 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: But now it was it was yeah, keep an eye, uh, 111 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: but it was. It was. It was a cool experience. 112 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: And we ran at the old RCA Dome and guys 113 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: didn't used to run back then because it was old 114 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: as turf, not field turf. You don't have cleat sum 115 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: where he can get a good start. Yeah, you know, 116 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: we were all trying to sneak in, like racing flats shoes. 117 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: We're all got pinched. They made him take us off 118 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: and put on sneakers and you run in the sidelines. 119 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: It was kind of bouncy at the start. So you know, 120 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: the top guys never ran back then, but me, you know, 121 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: I was a six round pick. I had no choice 122 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: but to run. You were a six round pick. I 123 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people know the guy that 124 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: was picked before you. Yes, who was that? Good players 125 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: and the quarterback from Michigan and Tom Brady. Tom Brady, 126 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: he was number one ninety eight. I was number one 127 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: ninety eight. He was a pick after me, and he 128 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: was one ninety nine? Did you did you know him 129 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: at all? Tom? And compading me the big ten? Right? Yeah? 130 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: They beat us at Kenneck one time, Kenneck Stadium and 131 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: Ia City. I think the final was twelve to nine, 132 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: a weird score like that, something like that. Uh, he 133 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: beat me for a touchdown tie streets. We were playing 134 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: zero I see you remember all this stuff? We playing 135 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: zero man inside the plus five yard line. I have 136 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: inside leverage and tie streets and tie streets gave me 137 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: an outside stam and I thought he's going to corner, 138 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: broke back to slant and Brady beat me. You know 139 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: what are the iconic images of the combine is Brady 140 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: running that forty? Yeah, and people looking at up this 141 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: unathletic guy running the forty, and then you fast forward 142 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: now he's the greatest of all time. Yeah, And the 143 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: thing about Tom which is so great about him if 144 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: you're a young quarterback and you're studying his game, and 145 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: I think the game is shifting. It's about mobility more 146 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: as the quarterback position now more than ever. But the 147 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: way he moves inside the pocket, Yeah, that's what makes 148 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: him so special. And the way he can manipulate the pocket, 149 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: the way he can manipulate a defender in every single play, 150 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: He's always trying to move someone with his eyes, yeah, 151 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: to create a thrown window. When he has that window, 152 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't miss. He doesn't miss. And I think you 153 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: can see the energy he plays within the competitive nature. 154 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: He's so driven to succeed and win as leadership Matt, 155 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: I got ten questions here. We can buzz through some 156 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: of these, we can get a little bit deeper, but 157 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: these are basically ten questions that I prepared that I 158 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: think CHARGE just fans want to know during draft season. 159 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Charges picking number seventeen overall, and I think there's a 160 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: lot of different players on offensive defense that could be 161 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: in play. And I want to start with this question 162 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: because we just talked about Brady, we talked about mobility, 163 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson. I don't know if this 164 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: guy's gonna be a round at number seventeen or not. 165 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: But three years from now, who do you think is 166 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: going to be the better pro? And there's a lot 167 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: of varying opinions, right, And you know Baker Mayfield, he 168 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: had a really good Senior Bowl. But Lamar Jackson, you 169 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: can't ignore his electricity and his productivity. Well, you know, 170 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in both. I'm gonna start with that. Yeah, 171 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to coach both him because they're different quarterbacks. 172 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Okay with Baker. Baker completed seventy percent of his passes 173 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. Okay, at his offense is a fit for 174 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: the modern NFL. More quick game, more run pass options, 175 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: more play pass, more movement. Okay, that's what the NFL 176 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: is going to. It's creating windows, it's attacking those windows. 177 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: A short intermediate passing him doesn't mean it doesn't have 178 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: the arm. He has the arm. You can watch Oklahoma 179 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: State film. You can throw the ball down the field 180 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: all day. I think what you noticed that mobile is 181 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: the energy he brings to the field, the way his 182 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: teammates gravitate to him. He's got those leadership skills. Very competitive. Now, 183 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: people are gonna knock him for his height. He measured 184 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: in today. He's over six feet tall. Okay, he's over 185 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: six feet tall. You guys used to have a quarterback 186 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: out there in San Diego named Drew Brees. Yeah, he 187 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: was pretty good. Yeah, he's a pretty good player. Right, 188 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: so we've seen it done before and it's really what 189 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: he can do from the pocket. I think he's gonna 190 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: be a really good bro if he's in the right fit, 191 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: if you coached in the right way. Lamar Jackson, I 192 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: played against Michael Vick and they beat us. Atlanta beat 193 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: us in the playoffs. When I was with the Packers 194 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: met Michael Vick said he's five times better than he 195 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: was in college. Lamar Jackson was, well, I think he's 196 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: being pretty humble there. You've watched Michael Vicks Virginia Tech tape. 197 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: It's electric. Now. We played against vic a bunch of times, 198 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: and I played against him in the playoffs. They upset 199 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: us in Green Bay in the O two playoffs. And 200 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: there are certain things you can't run against quarterbacks that 201 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: are that electric. You can't play too man, you can't 202 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: play a lot of man coverage. He turned her back 203 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: and he got defensive backs chasing down the field and 204 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: that quarterback gets outside as time strike up the bandytown. Yeah, now, 205 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, there's things I'd love to do as a coach. 206 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: I love the coaching because the talent you can't teach. 207 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: The electric speed, you can't teach the body control he has, 208 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: the natural arm talent he has. He just flicks the 209 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: ball down the field. Now, these things you have to correct. Okay, 210 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: whether it's his footwork or his mechanics that's going to 211 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: increase his accuracy. You can do that if you want 212 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: to teach. Okay, if you want to teach, and we 213 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: need to see more of that at the pro level 214 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: like we do at the college in the high school 215 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: level with quarterback coaches and coordinators or dedicated to teaching 216 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: and developing players. Okay, because all these quarterbacks coming out 217 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're talking about Baker, Lamar, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen. 218 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: They all have things that need to be corrected at 219 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the pro level. That's part of making the transition from 220 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: college to pro, just like it is for a high 221 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: school player to college. You have to develop and become 222 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: a better player. You have to teach, have to teach. 223 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: But I would love the coach Lamar Jackson. I love 224 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: to put a game plan together for him. Yeah, I wouldn't. 225 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It doesn't mean he run his own 226 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: read forty five times to give you don't. That's just 227 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: a simple part you can get now. You run sprint, 228 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: you run boot, you get him outside of the pocket. 229 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Look you look at Louisville's tape. That's a pro role tree. 230 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: That's what Trio runs. A pro style offense or it is, 231 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: it's it's a pro style offense. Just because of quarterbacks 232 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: in the gun of the pistol doesn't mean it's a 233 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: college offense. Tom Brady is in the gun all day. 234 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: You've seen tape of Jackson. I think one of the 235 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: things that stands out to me is just affect that 236 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: he stays in games. And I guess he takes care 237 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: of himself outside the pocket, because because you do worry 238 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: about that about a quarterback taking an unnecessary hit outside 239 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: the pocket, trying to make a play, trying to get 240 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: an extra couple of yards. But he was pretty durable 241 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: in college. He was very durable. I think his frame 242 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: is very similar today, measuring a six two and waiting 243 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: at two sixteen. You know Marioto's about six four two 244 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah, he ran at four or five. Two 245 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: of Lamar jacksons are run in the four fourth. Yeah, 246 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: there's no doubt he might be the best athlete here. 247 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: You think three years from now, these guys, who do 248 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: you think has the higher ceiling? I guess that probably 249 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: the better The better way to hire ceiling is the 250 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: mar Jacks if you're talking about potential on ceiling. But 251 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: I think the more game ready right now is Baker 252 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: Mayfield because of his accuracy. He can be surgical in 253 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. That's where you won the ball. 254 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Ball in the upfield. Shoulder in the pros has to 255 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: be there. He put on the back shoulder, it's going 256 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: the other way for a touchdown. He's very accurate, and 257 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: that's what I look for first. The quarterback, especially like Bakers. 258 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: Can't he make the plays outside the pocket because the 259 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: game is changing. Can't he run play action, get his 260 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: eyes up the field and find those of windows. He 261 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: can do that. I'm not saying Lamar can't. Lamar can 262 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: do that stuff too, But right now, the most game 263 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: righty's Baker. But the higher ceiling the guy loved the 264 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: coach and beat in meeting room with is Lamar Jackson. 265 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Second question here defensive tackles. There's three really good ones 266 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: that could be available at number seventeen. Vita Vea from Washington, 267 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: absolutely monster six five three forty, Maurice Hurst really productive 268 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: at Michigan, and Alabama's Dern Payne. Of those three mat 269 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: who do you think would look best next to Joey 270 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: Bosa and Melvin Ingram. I'll say this, I'm gonna say 271 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Paine Paine, I do. I've watched a lot Obama film 272 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: and anytime you get a Bama defensive tackle or defensive 273 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: vana or knows, you know what you're getting in terms 274 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: of fundamental ability and turn the fundamentals the game, technique, hands, footwork. 275 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: I think if you watch him in the National semifinal game, 276 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: in the National Championship game, I mean that's his resume 277 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: right there. Made a bunch of players. He even caught 278 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown in the Nationals. He did game. Amazing athlete. 279 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: But he's a guy you put in the middle of 280 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: the defense. It's gonna two gap all day that as 281 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: a guy that can penetrate up the field. Now he's 282 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: not going to give you a ton of disruption as 283 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: a pass rusher. Okay, that's that's the thing you have 284 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: to weigh there. Is he a two down player? What 285 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: can you do for you on third down? Now, I 286 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: again go back to the National semifinal game and the 287 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: National championship. He used so many counter moves. He's bowling 288 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: guys off the line of screams, using a quick swim. 289 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: He's getting to the football. It's one thing about band 290 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: players that runs to the football. Okay, but for me, 291 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: and then you asked ten other guys who get ten 292 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: other answers, But for me, it's it's paying. Is he 293 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: a three down player? Keep on feeling third down? I've 294 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: noticed in the film they does get enough disruptions. Okay. 295 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. People look at sacks. I think 296 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: it only has three career sacks. Okay, sacks aren't everything. 297 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: When I was playing for Greg Williams and Washington, we 298 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: were great on disruptions. If you alter the quarterbacks pass, 299 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: it's a positive. Great you get a hand up in 300 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: his face and the ball is altered, that's a plus. Yeah. Okay, 301 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: everyone wants sacks, get I get that, But canny provide 302 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: enough disruption, canny push. You're talking about Bosa and Ingram. 303 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: Can he push the pocket enough for that quarterback has 304 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: no room to step up? Because if he does that, 305 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: now you have two of the best edge rushers in 306 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: the NFL coming off outside. There's nowhere to go. Yeah, 307 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: and that's what you really want. You want a guy 308 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: that can eat up space in the middle, get a 309 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: push off the line of screamage if we're talking about 310 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: third downs, and let your two stars we hit the quarterback. 311 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: All right. Third question here, and this is really for 312 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: any team, Matt, How tempting would it be for an 313 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: NFL team to select a running back in the first 314 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: three rounds of this draft? Based on how loaded? It is? 315 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: Very tempting. Well, you start with Sakehon Barkley. He was 316 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: six foot two thirty three yesterday. He's like tier one 317 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: and everybody else's one. A right, Well, this is why, 318 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: because again talking about the modern NFL, it's versatility of position. 319 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: You want to you don't necessarily want a third down back, 320 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: You want a three down back. I okay, he's like 321 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: a Melvin Gordon. Someone can impact the passing game and 322 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: it's more just screen, it's just catching the ball on 323 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: the flat, catching on swing rocks, running an option rout, 324 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: removing from the formation to match up against a linebacker. 325 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: He has more versatility than anyone in this running back class, 326 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: and he's a home run threat. He is. He's a 327 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: home run threat. I mean he turn on any tape, 328 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna find a play that pops. Even as Ohio 329 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: State people say he had you know he didn't have 330 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: great numbers. Well, he had a ninety something yard kickoff 331 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: return for a touchdown and like fifty yard touchdown run. 332 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean he impacted the game. Yeah, he scored fourteen 333 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: points for you. I mean it wasn't that bad of 334 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: a day. I think, say Quana is Tier one and 335 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: then he gets to Tier two, which is very interesting. 336 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: A player I really like is Ronald Jones at USC Okay. 337 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Doesn't have a big frame. Yesterday was five foot eleven, 338 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: two hundred and five pounds, built like Jamal Charles. That's 339 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: the player account for him right now. A slasher, a 340 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: guy that has quick twitched in terms of his hips, 341 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: his flexibility and ability to slash through gaps and get 342 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: into the field. He does have some home run speed 343 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, very interested to watching test this week. 344 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Didn't have a ton of versatility at USC in their offense, 345 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: but again you have to look at traits. Canny be 346 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: a guy catch the ball pretty much. I think he can't. Ye. 347 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Sonny Michelle from Georgia is very high on my list. 348 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: Talk to Great casebo him yesterday, really high out Sony Michelle. 349 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: And because my player count for him is a Tevin Coleman. Okay, 350 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: because he's downhill, now go you there run a lot 351 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: of inside zone at Georgia, especially out of the gun 352 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: where again the NFL is going. There's no hesitation to 353 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: his game. He's a very angular runner. Okay, he runs 354 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: on angles. Okay, there's no hesitation to get downhill, push 355 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: the ball at the second level. Turn on the floor 356 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: to tape. He had six carriers for a buck thirty four. 357 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, turn on the Rose bowl to the Rose Bowl, 358 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: taple your resume there you go, then go to the 359 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: Albama tape. You don't have huge numbers, but if you 360 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: look at the second half when they started getting some 361 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: flowing inside zone, he was hammering the ball up the middle. 362 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Darius Guys from LSU two twenty four yesterday, very physical 363 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: running back. Now the thing with guys that people have 364 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: questions on is what is this impacting the path game? 365 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: And you can say that Michelle too. He gonna have 366 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: a lot of catches. I think he can. But what 367 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: does guys in terms of versatility and how long does 368 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: that running style last? Yeah? How long does that running 369 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: style last? When you're taking on now NFL linebackers and 370 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: NFL defensive backs hit, they hit hard, and they're gonna 371 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: come in and get you in that hole. So but 372 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: I really like him. His twenty sixteen tape is much better. 373 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: He was a little beat up last year and turns 374 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: of injuries. But he's a Day two guy all day 375 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: and we'll see what he runs. He could sneak in 376 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: the back end of round one. The blueprint, it seems too. 377 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: You look at the Super Bowl fifty two, especially with 378 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: the Eagles, you got three running backs yea, yeah, Clement, 379 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: they all do different things, they all do. You look 380 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: at the Patriots with Birkhead and Lewis and series James White. Yeah, 381 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean you have to be versatile in the backfield. 382 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: And make no mistake about Melvin Gordon, He's the bell 383 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: cow in LA. But I think Austin Eckler coming out 384 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: of the backfield was really good this year. He did 385 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: great things in his rookie season. But it doesn't hurt 386 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: to have another guy who can make an impact, it doesn't. 387 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: I agree with you. And that's why a guy like 388 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones is a great pick. Because the guy give 389 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: twelve touches game. I'll be listed as your number one. 390 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, look at New Orleans last year. Look 391 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: what they do with the one of the best one 392 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: two punches we've ever seen ever. Yeah, and they have 393 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: different styles. That's you want. You don't want too the 394 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: same player. Yeah, you want guys with different styles that 395 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: can create matchups or do things differently within your game play. 396 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: All right, next question, what I say the name of 397 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Florida State safety Durwin James. What's the first thing comes 398 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: to mind for you? As a as a former safety, 399 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: better get your pass down? As an offensive player? Yeah, 400 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: because he's a downhill guy. He's a thumper, super athletic. 401 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a great week testing this 402 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: week and you can see the flashers when you watch 403 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: the FSU film just how athletic he is. And really, yeah, 404 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: that's a guy you want to put in a certain 405 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: scheme to maximize his talents. You're talking about LA what's 406 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: coach Bradley and what they do in three deep coverage. 407 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: You put him as a strong safe there and you 408 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: let him go. Let him buzz buzz the flat, let 409 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: him play the hook, let him get down the run front, 410 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: let him rotate to the middle field at times, but 411 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: let him chase the football. He is a guy that's 412 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: an impact first and second down. He's an impact for subpackers. 413 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: You get a little creative with him on subpackers. You 414 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: can make him now you're nickel linebacker. Okay, you could 415 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: blitz him. He's gonna tackle and when he tackles, people 416 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: are gonna feel it. They're gonna feel it. And I 417 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: think he's gonna make a lot of plays in the 418 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: ball in the NFL if he's in the right scheme. 419 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: But first rounder all day. And here's the thing, after 420 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: this week, he might really climb. He might start talking 421 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: about top pople are on a show this week. He 422 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: could you might start talking top fifteen. His comp You 423 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: hear the name camp Chancellor. I've seen that. I don't 424 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: want to compare anybody Sean Taylor. You played with Sean Taylor, 425 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: what's Derwin James's comp Ah, nobody's shown Taylor, but no, 426 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: no one's Sean. But you know, Sean had that natural 427 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: athleticism that was off the charts. Stuff you can't teach. 428 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's why you'll hear some of that 429 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: because with James, he has some of that natural athleticism 430 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: again that you can't teach that as a coach. You're 431 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to You're never gonna make someone 432 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: move like that, no matter how much technique. I mean, 433 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: that's just natural ability. No, nob and the size. That's 434 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: why people say Cam. He's not as big as Cam, 435 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: but he has that presence. And I'm telling you right now, 436 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: if I'm an NFL dB coach, I want safeties that intimidate. 437 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: You can still do that in today's game. Yes, she 438 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: had to lower your your target zone. I understand them. 439 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: You can teach that. If you don't show that stuff 440 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: on film, you're allowing offensive players to do what they want. 441 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: The way you take away what an offense wants to do. 442 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: It's not what the chalkboard man's with your pads. Yeah, 443 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: that's how you take it away. Linebackers Roquan Smith seems 444 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: to be a guy that is hover around the middle 445 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: of that first round. I think you could be a 446 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: top ten guy. You got Tremaine Edmonds, who's who's probably 447 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: a top ten lock at this point. What do you 448 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: think Roquan Smith is gonna be drafted and how do 449 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: you compare him with some of the other guys in 450 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: the class? Also talking about Evans from Alabama, Well, start 451 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: with with Edmunds, and I agree with you. He's six five, 452 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: two fifty. There's not a player count for him. Something 453 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: about Brian R. Locker, Yeah, that's the only measurables as 454 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: an in side linebacker. I think some three four teams 455 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: will look at Edmonds. You look at Chicago at eight. 456 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: I think Edmonds is gonna test. He should test fantastically 457 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: this week, that he'd be handed glove for Chicago. Yeah, 458 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: and you put him opposite Leonard Floyd and I got 459 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: two edge rushers and some teams might play him inside. 460 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: I think Roquan Smith right now is the best pure 461 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: linebacker in the draft. Wow. Okay, when you watch his 462 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: film at Georgia watching them in the National Championship game. 463 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: I turned on the other day against Georgia Tech, and 464 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: you know Georgia Tech runs a triple option. They played 465 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith about seven yards off the ball like a 466 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: rover and just let him run the alley. He just 467 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: chasing everyone down. Here's the thing. He tackles, has been 468 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: as many tackles, one hundred and thirty seven tackles. He tackles, 469 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: he wraps up. He's fundamentally sound. He's a running hit 470 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: linebacker all day. He's an impact or sub packages. People 471 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: are gonna want to know what he what he measures 472 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: in at this week. You know he's above six feet tall. 473 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: That's fine for me, okay, but Edmonds is gonna go 474 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: higher because of the measurable So it works now. Rashaun 475 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: Evans is a very good player out Obama, very good, 476 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: and he's the back half for that first round. But 477 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: if he tests well, and if you go back and 478 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: watch it, watch the LSU tape, the way he slips blocks, 479 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: the way he arrives on content. He's so explosive, and 480 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: he can run. He can get from point eight to beat. 481 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Maybe not as fast as roque On, but he's right 482 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: behind him on that. He's a first round linebacker all day. 483 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: Got being excited about these linebackers man, all right, next question, 484 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: if a team misses out on these big five quarterbacks 485 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: that we're projecting to be first rounders. You talk about 486 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: the two kids from La Rosen and Darnold, you got 487 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: Alan from Wyoming, the two Eisman Trophy winners we talked 488 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: about earlier, Jackson and Mayfield. Do you think there's enough 489 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: depth to find a future starter in the NFL and 490 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: rounds two and three. Oh, there's that's always the question 491 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: because that's what people want to do. They want to 492 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: get a Day two quarterback. You know, day three you're 493 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: getting a more developmental player. Everyone understands that. But Day two, 494 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: you know, on that second and third round wheelhouse. Now 495 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: you're talking Mason Rudolph Oklahoma State. A tremendous amount of experience. 496 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: He's played a lot of football games and a high 497 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: powered offense, a lot of play action, a lot of RPOs. 498 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: But again, like we talked about earlier, the game is 499 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: going throws him. One of the best deep balls of 500 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: this class, has great touch, The ball doesn't have a 501 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: massive arm. Do you think the Senior Bowl effected He 502 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: didn't get to performing. The Senior Bowl may have heard 503 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: of me. I think this is a good opportunity for 504 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: him to kind of showcase what he's got here. This 505 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: is and I would I would have loved to see 506 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: him in the Senior Bowl, but you know, he had 507 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: an injury. It's understandable. He can drive the ball outside 508 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: the numbers. The one negative on him. And he doesn't 509 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: have the movement skills. Okay, he doesn't have the moving 510 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: skills of a Sam Darnold. He does not, Okay, He's 511 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: more of a natural pocket thrower. I think guys Luke 512 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: falk from Washington State, We'll talk about Luke Fok very often. 513 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: Obviously played an air raid offense has to get the 514 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: ball out quicker in the NFL, but he could put 515 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: the ball where he wants very accurate. Again, what you 516 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: get on Day two usually in the draft is a 517 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: lot of senior quarterbacks, a lot of guys who played 518 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: a ton of football, have a ton of experience, very 519 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: smart football players, Guys that might not be game ready 520 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: right now. But again, you're talking about a place like 521 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: LA for the future. After Philip Rivers, that's where you 522 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: get your court back. You got a late round Jim, 523 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: either on offense or defense. I go back to the 524 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and guys, I saw Dave Shawn Hamilton really 525 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: impressed me. Wide receiver depends, good route runner, really good 526 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: route runner, had some drops during the season, had some 527 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: drops in mobile. Really good route runner. Now, obviously I'm 528 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: biased towards Iowa City, you know that. But what about 529 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: Josie Jewelette linebacker. Yeah, guy who's played a ton of football. 530 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Might not test off the charts here, but hey, we 531 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 1: got a Hawk guy. They did some work this year. 532 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Desmond did some work for you guys, There's no doubt 533 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: about that. But Josie's in that kind of mold. Just 534 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: a tough, nasty defensive football player can get to the 535 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: ball despite what you think is testing numbers will be 536 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: He's a guy you say, hey this, turn on the tape. 537 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: Same with Desmond last year, and people are questioning, turn 538 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: on the tape. What you get from the University of 539 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: Iowa's tough, disciplined football players, high character guys. Guys are 540 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: gonna be role models in the community. That's what you 541 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: get from Coach Fairness's program. And they're already pro ready 542 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: because of how they're prepared under coach all Right, next question, 543 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: best offensive tach goal in this year's draft is who. Well, 544 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: I think there's two guys in the Big twelve, right 545 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: that are kind of headlining this thing. Right, kind of 546 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: rings in Orlando Brown. But what about Quinn Nelson? Just 547 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: because of what the measurables were yesterday with moving him 548 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: to tackle. Yeah, he's six to five. Yeah, I think 549 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: a team's gonna try to do that. So if you're 550 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna ask me that quentn Nelson, Quintin Nelson's tape is 551 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: awesome because it's it's like watching Monday Night Raw at times. Okay, 552 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: he throws right and you don't. When's the last time 553 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: you watch a highlight tape for a guard, whether you're 554 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: watching a high school prosper or never. Right, Yeah, what's 555 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: what's on? You watched highlight tape? You want to see 556 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: guys catch the ball or dv's picks, quarterbacks running the ball, 557 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: making play. You don't watch offensive guards. You watched this 558 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: guy's highlights because he just throws people out of the ring. 559 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: He's very athletic, his movements still, skills are excellent. He's 560 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: a plug and play starter day one on your offensive 561 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: line of offensive guard. But because he's six five, because 562 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: he has length, I think it's he was gonna try 563 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: to move in the tackle. And Orlando bron yesterday his 564 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: measure balls were crazy, Yeah, crazy. He's the biggest dude 565 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: by far. He is a massive, massive tackle. And you're 566 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: watching the Rose Bowl tape. He got his hands in 567 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: Roquan a couple of times, did a good job. He 568 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: could get up to the second level. And I think 569 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna climb. I think he's gonna climb up the board. 570 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: And that's the thing right now, if we look at 571 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: all the mocks, there's no tackles, and talk about the 572 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: top fifteen. When those tackles start to move up, now 573 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks start to move up, everyone else is gonna 574 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: get pushed down. That's exactly right. So you're talking in 575 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: la a guy like Roquan he might be there. He 576 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: could be yeah, because they might get pushed down. We 577 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: get if we see five quarterbacks go in like the 578 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: top fifteen. The teams that don't need a quarterback looking 579 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: their chops. Oh that's what they want, yeah, And the 580 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: teams that don't need to tackle because it tackles such 581 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: a premium position, it's an edge position. And I have 582 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: a hard time. It's just just beginning to draft prize. 583 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: I have a hard time believe we're not gonna have 584 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: a tackle on the top fifteen. Yeah, it's really you 585 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: don't really see that very oft now, so it could 586 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: be good for a lot of two. He's Quentin Neilson, 587 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: a top five pick in your eyes at guard because 588 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: the only reason I say that is the Rids. He 589 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: selected Brandon shirtft Iowa like at five, right before Learter Williams, 590 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, he didn't you didn't get 591 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: Letter Williams. We look at Sheriff's productivity and him just 592 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: staying on the field. It's a Pro Bowl guard. Yeah, 593 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: he's already been in the Pro Bowl. Yes, And that's 594 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: the question. The thing I always say when people asking 595 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: about the drafts is draft the best football player, right, 596 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: drafts the best best guy you need? Yeah, drafts the 597 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: best player you know. Teams have draft on need basse 598 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: all the time, are always drafting on need base was 599 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: a passing up fantastic football players to phil a need 600 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: that he might be able to field during free agency 601 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: with the second tier of free agent for a couple 602 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: of years, And there's ways around that. Draft the best 603 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: football player. If Quinton Nelson is the best player on 604 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: your board and you're on the clock. Don't even think 605 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: about it. Go get him, Yeah, go get him number nine. Here, 606 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: give me two names that you think you're gonna put 607 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: a show. Put on a show rather an indie. No. 608 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: I think one we just talked about is Edmonds out 609 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: of Virginia Tech. I think he's the guy that I mean, 610 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: could you might be talking about top six pick after 611 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: this week. I mean, I really believe that because of 612 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: the measures, because he's how he's gonna test. I think 613 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: he's a guy like that. Next one, I'm gonna say 614 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Dante Jackson, the defensive backout of LSU. Oh wow, okay, 615 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: because of his speed. Yeah, and look, he's sticky in coverage. 616 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: He's not the most physical corner. I understand that, but 617 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: he's sticky in coverage, can play inside and outside. And 618 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: if he runs, which some people are talking some really 619 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: low times, now you're talking about a first round player. 620 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: So those are two guys I'm looking at that could 621 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: really improve their draft stock. This We've are producing these 622 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: great testing numbers. That's what this is about. Again, it's 623 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: not the end all be all, but it does count. 624 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, people say, oh, it's just a count by 625 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: shore accounts. We're here everyone, the NFL is here for 626 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: a reason, all right, to watch these kids test and 627 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: for the pro personnel to interview him, get to know him. 628 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: And it's a major, major part of the process. So yeah, 629 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: the testing numbers, they do matter, all right. Last one, Matt, 630 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: it's March first. It's way, way, way too early. But 631 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: who's the best fit for the Charges? Of seventeen? Based 632 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: on everything we talked about, I knew that there's a 633 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of needs on every football team. You'll want to 634 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: improve your team at all three levels. Based on who 635 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: we talked about at number seventeen, who do he thinks 636 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: the best fit for the Charges? As Dar own James, 637 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: I do. I do. Hey, I'm a little partial. There's 638 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: a next defensive back, en, but I look at how 639 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: a guy like that and I see what what Cam 640 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: has done in terms of overall impact. You have to 641 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: know where he is at all times. And that's Seattle defense, 642 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: right and especially they're great defenses of the past couple 643 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: of years. You can't run crossing roads. If you do, 644 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: you better have some rib pads on. Okay, all right, 645 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: he's an impact your run front. He's just an a 646 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: dominant force on your defense. And I look at coach 647 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: Bradley's system and what they do, and you put him 648 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: in there on day one. He's gonna tackle too. I 649 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: know how important tackling is, coach, and you played Cover three. 650 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: You don't tackling, you don't have a chance. So he's 651 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna tackle. I think that's a guy that could possibly 652 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: be there. Again, it's March first, we don't know, but 653 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: since let's we're playing that game in March first, I'm 654 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna say Darling James is a pick if I'm LA Chargers. 655 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Steve Palezola from Pro Football Focus at him on last 656 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: week and he was talking about how you could put 657 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: him on a guy like Gronk Travis Kelcey. You'd also 658 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: put him on a slot guy and he's gonna cover 659 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: both of them. He's gonna match up to running back 660 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: out the backfield too. Yeah, I might saying he's in 661 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: a lockdown Levy on Bell No. One. It's a lockdown 662 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: Levia Bell. Every time you got a running back is 663 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: coming out an option route. You got Christian McCaffrey burst 664 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: into the flat. I'm fine with him playing offense. He 665 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: look let him catch the ball in the flat attack 666 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: hims two yards, who cares? Yeah, just matched to him, 667 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: matched to him, yeah, you know, and that's what he 668 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: can do. Plus, you know, we don't talk about this enough, 669 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: but especially defensive guys, who's in a block up on 670 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: special teams? Oh, it's not gonna happen. It's the team's 671 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: impact is huge. Yeah, you know, that's never talked about 672 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: as the combine obviously because we're talking a lot of 673 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: first second day prospects, but special teams impact. You know, 674 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: if I'm a secondary coach and you're in uniform, you're 675 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 1: starting on special teams too. Yeah, that's how That's how 676 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: it was when I played. And I want guys to 677 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: cover kicks and can cover punts, and Darren James do 678 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: that for you as well, because you better have a 679 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: double on them on kickoff you're better. Yeah, and you 680 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: better tell your receiver to get down. Let me return 681 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: her to get down. Matt. What are you working on 682 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: EDI ESPN over the next couple of months? And where 683 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: can people find your work? Oh? The next couple of months, 684 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I'll be doing a lot with the draft. I got 685 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: a free agency piece coming out next week. I'm taking 686 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen guys like Kirk Cousins. We talked about 687 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: about their best fits and it might not be the 688 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: best place for them in terms of total monetary value, 689 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: but I'm looking at it from football perspective. This is 690 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 1: why I would like to see this guy. I think 691 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: he'd play the best football here. I'm gonna obviously do 692 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: some fantasy stuff off the draft, all right, these are 693 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at ten prospects you need to keep 694 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: on your fantasy radar. These running backs make immediate impact. Yeah, 695 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: and if Calvin Ridley goes out there runs a four four, 696 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: you better have on your draft board when it comes 697 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: time for fantasy draft. Yep. I'm gonna be on the 698 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: SEC network next week and do the bam of Pro Day. 699 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Oh it's great. So I'm gonna be uh in studio 700 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: in Charlotte. We're gonna have some guys in the ground 701 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: there in Tessca loose excellent. But I'll talk about you know, 702 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: making Fitzpatrick Evans Hayne. Yeah, a lot of guys in 703 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, that's a fun group to do 704 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: because they're so disciplined their self. It's got a ton 705 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: of defensive talent obviously, and a lot of guys are 706 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna play five, six, seven years in the NFL, so 707 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some great players out of out now. Matt. 708 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: Always appreciate the time. Man, You're the best recurring guests. 709 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Love having you on and to do it again soon. 710 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. All right, please be 711 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: joined by the head coach of the LA Chargers, Anthony 712 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: Lynn coach Hawaiser. I'm doing good man. You know the 713 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: second year, uh said head coach here at the combine, 714 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: I think things of uh going a little smooth of 715 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: this year. What's the biggest don't have the higher coaching 716 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: staff have more time to prepare and get ready. What's 717 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: the thing? You can take a little bit more of 718 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: a breath. So the biggest difference, Well, I think also 719 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: just being being with Tom for your Tom John Ed 720 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: those guys, Uh, you know, we all have the same 721 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: philosophy pulling in the same direction. And just last year 722 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: at this time I didn't know those guys very well. Sure, 723 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: but uh, it's it's it's been a pleasure of getting 724 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: to know them and and they're working with them. What's 725 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: this week like for you in terms of digging into 726 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: these prospects? And we got free agency on the horizon, right, 727 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: how do you prioritize the week? Well, you know, before 728 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: you get here, y'all, y'all in the free agency, because 729 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: that's what happens first. But when you get here, you know, 730 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: we have a schedule. Everyone's on our terorary, and so, uh, 731 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: we're just this is one of the exposures. You know, 732 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: in my mind, no one's gonna move up or down 733 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: this draft board at this combine. You know, I'm gonna 734 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: watch it on tape exactly and see how they play. 735 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: But this is definitely an important process because, like I said, 736 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: you only get so many exposures with these guys, and 737 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: this is one of them. And I'm just looking for consistency. 738 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: And they're saying, if we can see something that may 739 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: validate what you see on tape. Yeah, you know, you 740 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: look at twenty eighteen already, there's been a lot of 741 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: big changes up and down to AFC West. There's a 742 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: lot of new coaches in Denver, Uh, some pending changes 743 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, new coach in Oakland, and you talked 744 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: about it a little more continuity with the Chargers coach 745 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: was and Hunting coach Bradley back. How important is that 746 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: for you in the second year building off the last 747 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: year's success, but also you get the same core in place. 748 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: What it can be huge. I don't want to say 749 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: it's a competitive advantage, but I just knew I wanted 750 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: some consistency, some continuity going into this year. Last year 751 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: we didn't have that, and so I felt like the 752 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: way we were playing at the end of the season, 753 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: that would be our best chance of starting the year 754 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: off that way if we can keep everyone in the house. Yeah. 755 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: I just made a purchase of a book called Find 756 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: the Winning Edge by Bill Walsh. It's that book that 757 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: is so elusive you can't get it. And I know 758 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: he is one of your mentors, Shanahan, Bill Parcels. He 759 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: has such a unique coaching tree. What's the biggest piece 760 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: of advice that you've gotten from each of those guys 761 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: as you reflect on your first year as a head coach? 762 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: You know it just so much. Those guys were so brilliant. 763 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I wish when I was with Coach Walsh I would 764 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: have known that I was going to do this one 765 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: day because I probably could have just taken a ton 766 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: of notes that would have helped me out. But Uh, 767 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: you know his information that he has in his books. 768 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I've read every seen one of his books. It's outstanding, 769 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: stays the tests of time, right. Absolutely, It's not something 770 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: that you can use for a couple of years. It's 771 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: not a fad, you know. Uh, you know, you know 772 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: in Coach Walsh planned to see to get me into 773 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: this business. But he was so detailed. Uh, his approach 774 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: was more of a philosopher and uh, he was a 775 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: thinking man. And I found that it's hard to do 776 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: this job if if you're not a thinker and uh, 777 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: it's no partner that can't be solved if you can 778 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: if you can think and and uh and uh and 779 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: in a strategic way and work with people to make 780 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: it happen. So, I mean, it's a ton of things 781 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: I could have taken from Coach Walsh, but Coach Shanahan 782 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: very detailed, very detailed, uh offensive mind. You know, it's 783 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: one of the best innovators in the game. Uh. You know, 784 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: his winning formula was making a defense, defend three offenses 785 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: to run pass in your special place. And uh it's 786 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily about stats, you know, but it's just execution. 787 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: And and then coach parselves you know, he called me 788 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: at a time when I was probably most impressionable, when 789 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna do this for a long time. 790 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: And uh, I learned a lot from him in those 791 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: two three years else with him. So, uh, you know 792 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: the coach parcels. You know, he's all about winning formulas, 793 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, no stuff. You don't come about stats unless 794 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: it correlates the winning. And usually I focus on the 795 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: top three because I don't want you don't focus on 796 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: too many things, because then you get confusing, you don't 797 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: get clarity, of course. And uh, you know I talked 798 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: three things. Every year has been the same, so it's 799 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: it's still the test of time as well. But just 800 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: three brilliant coaches. And it's been a lot more coaches 801 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: than that, a lot of assistant coaches that were very 802 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: instrumental for me being here right now. And uh, anyway, 803 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm just battling right now. But I love this because 804 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: it's just so many guys. The level of detail in 805 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh and his preparation, Like really just reading that book. 806 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: There is a section on evaluating players at the combine. 807 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: There's a station on hand the media. There's a section 808 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: on um dealing with people in the front office that 809 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: even outside the coaching staff, there's so much that goes 810 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: into it. And he really has set the blueprint for 811 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: so many coaches. Coach Coach Walsh, he knew that it 812 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: took an organization within a championship, not a locker room, 813 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: not a coach, an organization, and you know, his philosophy 814 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: was how to get an organizations on the same page, 815 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: pulling the same direction. Because when you can do that, 816 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: that's hard to stop. Now. I want to ask you 817 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: about the running game and I had Rex Ryan on 818 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: the podcast week one. He talked about the Allen Running Game. 819 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: What do you want to see in twenty eighteen in 820 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: terms of making it that much more explosive. We look 821 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: at the blueprint around the league, coach, and I look 822 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and you got a lot of 823 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: guys that can do different things like Clement and Jay 824 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: Gay and Blunt and Philly and Rex Burkhead and Dion 825 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: Lewis and James White and New England. What do you 826 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: want to see out of the running Game in twenty eighteen? 827 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Because Melvin, like you said, he was came on really 828 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: strong last year. Yeah, you know, I've always been very 829 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: multiple in the running game. A lot of it has 830 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: to do with the quarterback as well. You know, Philip 831 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: is different than some of the quarterbacks I've had in 832 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: the past, So a lot of things that I've done 833 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: in the past and I cannot do now. And uh, 834 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: I have to figure out what these guys block best, 835 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: what these guys run best, And uh, I like to 836 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: think after a year now we have a pretty good ideal, 837 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: even though we had some changes up front and old line. 838 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: But uh, I see us getting off this year to 839 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: a little faster start, you know in the run game, 840 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: with a personnel that we have right now, and so 841 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: I feel good about it. I think we're definitely going 842 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: to improve in that area. But uh you have to 843 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: build your system around what you have, and uh I 844 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 1: think it may look a little different this year based 845 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: on the personnel that we have and what I think 846 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: we do we do best. New coach Rip sure, yeah, 847 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: mix And it's it's just so funny because you have 848 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: a connection with him Coach wizen Hunt nature with him 849 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: skipping Josh and pr have a connection with him. What's 850 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: coach You're going to bring to that to that coaching bro. 851 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: You know, he a ton of experience. I think when 852 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: you can get a better in coach like that to 853 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: mix with some young, good, up and coming talent, I 854 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: think it's good. And Rip, I remember when I was younger, 855 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: he helped me tremendously in my in my organizational skills 856 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: and uh in my planning preparation, and uh, I never 857 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: forget that. And uh, I want to bring him on 858 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: the staff because I want some other guys who experienced 859 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: in Cleveland together. We were together in Cleveland. Yeah, coach, 860 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: get your hat here on this. What do you want 861 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: Chargers fans to know about this team in twenty eighteen 862 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: and what you guys are working towards because you see 863 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: them positive momentum nine of twelve in twenty seventeen. I 864 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: know you can't really replicate twenty seventeen into twenty eighteen, 865 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: but just kind of state of the franchise year two, 866 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: A lot of things seem to be in place, you know, Uh, 867 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: our core values, I think a lot of people can 868 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: relate to those. You know, we want to be a 869 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: tough football team, and I think our guys prove that 870 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: they are tough. And that's not just physical, that's that's 871 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: mental toughness and resolve and uh selflessness. You know, a 872 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: bunch of unselfish guys, and uh, I think anybody can 873 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: relate to that. And we're gonna always compete no matter 874 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: what the circumstances are, We'll always com peat and uh 875 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: that's life. And uh, you know, even when we went 876 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: through our peaks and valleys, you know, that never changed. 877 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: And hopefully our fans can appreciate the consistency of that 878 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: and relate to that. But we're gonna give you everything 879 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: we've got and uh, you know, we hope to win 880 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: each and every week, but sometimes it doesn't work out 881 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: that way. But you know, uh, we're gonna be involved 882 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: in our community and uh that's something that you know, 883 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: this organization is really big too. You know, it's so important, 884 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: It's very important. And these guys care. You know that 885 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: they care. So it's just a good group of guys. 886 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: One of the best I've had as far as uh, 887 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: off the field issues, I can't think of one, to 888 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: be honest with you. And so I think fans appreciate 889 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: that hard working man doing a job and uh, I 890 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: hope they come out and trip for us. Yeah, well 891 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: it search at the top with you. One of the 892 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: best coach. I can't think enough for your time. And uh, 893 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: it's been a blast covering in year one, thinking afward 894 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: the bigger things in year two. I appreciate you having 895 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: me on. Yeah, I mean there's really no update to it, 896 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, just season healthy, So no update there. So, UM, 897 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: I've said this before. He just needs to work and 898 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: to have the full off season program, full training camps, 899 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: and he's gonna benefit a lot from um, you know, 900 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: he just needs to keep coming along. I mean, it's 901 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple, you know. He just needs to work, 902 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: needs to work with the quarterbacks, needs to get that 903 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: into that grind of training camp, which he missed all 904 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: of last year, and it's tough for young players. So 905 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: but he's on track to where he needs to be. 906 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: Points in the game where he saw the small glimmer 907 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: probably saw more in practice, and it's tough, you know, 908 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 1: we drop him into practice mode halfway through the season 909 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: where everybody else is is fliring on full cylinders and 910 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: he has to catch up. We saw a lot of 911 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: flashes in practice of of wild plays during the games, 912 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: glimmers of it now as much as we saw in practice. 913 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: But I think that's kind of natural. For what he 914 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: went through from the spring, summer into the fall. So 915 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,959 Speaker 1: you know, he just needs to keep keep moving forward 916 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, I work out that is great and 917 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: we really saw that a lot, not only at Clemson, 918 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: but his rehab process. You know, when you're a number 919 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: one draft pick, um, and you get hurt right away 920 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: and you're a skill position player, uh, because everybody loves 921 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: fantasy football, so um, that was a lot of pressure 922 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: on him, and he handled it really well. Had it, 923 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: was very mature with it and worked hard to get 924 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: back on the field. And once you get back in 925 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: the field, then he has earned the trust of our 926 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: coaches and quarterback as well. That takes time to when 927 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: you guys kind of got back together for us. So 928 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: I would anticipate that. He was like, yeah, he's He's 929 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: played really well for us. He's a very well rounded 930 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: tight end. He can block at the line of scrimmage, 931 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: you can do some dirty work for you, but he 932 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: can also make players in the passing game. Works extremely hard. Um, 933 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: he's a you know, big part of our offense. And 934 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: he was his rookie year and it was last years 935 00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: evaluating quarterback and left years. Guys, No, No, it's been 936 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: in emphasis every year. You know, I say no, what 937 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean that there's been in emphasis every year, certainly 938 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: since I got to the Chargers. You never know when 939 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: that that opportunity is going to be there, uh, for 940 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: that next quarterback. And then we're in our great position 941 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: because Philip is playing so well right now and we 942 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: feel really good about him. Um, but we're also realistic 943 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: to know that we have some work to do to 944 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: plan for the future. So the work we do, the 945 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: resources we put into scouting that quarterback position is really 946 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: no different this year than than past years years been. 947 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: Mike Williams cars playout big going to next year. Do 948 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: you feel like he was? Yeah, that's glass half four right, 949 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: So we got two guys coming back that that we're 950 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: really happy about. UM. Force is on track with the 951 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: same same no update with him from from the out 952 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: season many years jet process. Uh. You know he has 953 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: a natural ability or to run routes. You saw that 954 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: at California at Calm A lot of college receivers can 955 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: really rely on their natural abilities to beat college corners. 956 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: Keenan was very polished receiver and a lot of that 957 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: was him, a lot of that was was coaching at 958 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: kelu and he's shown that at this level that he's 959 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: really a precise route runner, has a great feel for 960 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: it for his surroundings and awareness. I think his basketball 961 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: background I think helps him out just to see the field. 962 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: It's like how kind of like a point guard does. 963 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: And then when you add in his physical abilities that 964 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: all helps him out too. But he says a natural 965 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: field for the game. The one thing that's changed that 966 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: we've seen is is receivers the college level do not 967 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of man to man coverage, So you 968 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: have to project a little bit at this level. Can 969 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: a receiver can in and out of a break? Can 970 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: he separate from type man coverage which they will get 971 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: a lot at this level. Those are things we have 972 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 1: to project. Like in Keenan's case, he's got really high 973 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: level separation quickness in and out of breaks and that 974 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: that really helps his game. Obviously hand a young quarterback. 975 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: Community's working with that guy help. There aren't many players 976 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: I've been around that are better team guys that fill 977 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: up I mean, he's he's all about the team all 978 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: the time. Son of a coach, you know, he gets it. 979 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: Um Yeah, that'd be at least of my words obviously 980 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: what um I think naturally, everybody puts me in the 981 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: in the Bill Polian tree, which I'm very proud of. 982 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. I've no doubt about that. Bill taught 983 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: me and his son Chris point they've taught me everything 984 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: in pro football as far as building a roster or 985 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: making trades, draft management, building when he culture all that. 986 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: But um, I worked for Domineely for probably or fifteen 987 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: years as a college scouting director, and he taught me 988 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: how to scout, from how to watch tape, how to 989 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: write a report, how to present the report, how to 990 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: take what I see or what you see on the field, 991 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: and and kind of transcribe that on the paper and 992 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: so what so somebody else when they read it can 993 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: really get feel for what to see. And and uh, 994 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, I learned everything and scouting, you know, from Dom. 995 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: And it's, uh, you know, he's had a long he 996 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: had a long coaching career, a long scouting career. Myself 997 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: and a lot of other young guys that were under him, 998 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: um back in Carolina in nineteen ninety five, and a 999 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: lot of us are doing doing pretty well. And it's 1000 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: all really because of Dom. He taught US. You know 1001 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: the A to z on how to scout much is 1002 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: the plan to kind of improve linebacker down him how 1003 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: high the prowler is that for you? We got plenty 1004 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: of needs, you know, there's just really those there's no 1005 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: like one need bigger than the other. If you have 1006 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: a need, you got to fix it. And uh, you 1007 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: know our linebacking corps was was inconsistent last year, so 1008 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: something definitely looking at. UM. I thought Denzel played very 1009 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 1: well when he was in there. He has some injuries 1010 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: that's slowed him down, but uh, Denzel is a playmaker 1011 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: and a really good player for US. UM, but you 1012 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: know we need to shore up that position a little bit. Yeah, 1013 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: so we'll uh we'll talk with the two with his 1014 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: agents here. UM, I don't have an update beyond that. 1015 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: But with uh, you know you have like you have 1016 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents, and then you have unrestricted free agents 1017 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: that are you know, Hall of fame players, iconic players 1018 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: for our organization who still attack the game like a 1019 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: college free agent with that same passion. And you know, 1020 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: his locker room presence is unbelievable. So um, but we 1021 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: still have some there's a lot of moving parts and 1022 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: freedency so we still have some work to do there. 1023 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about, you know, the use of analytics. 1024 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: Do so much data is available nowadays, how much do 1025 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: you guys value that and can dictate the players raft? 1026 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: We value it. I don't know if dictating the draft 1027 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: values that's probably a little bit strong, but we certainly 1028 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: use it. Um. I think you have to use the 1029 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: data and then combine that with the row scouting of 1030 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: using your eyes and trying to balance that out. UM. 1031 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: Certainly a part of the whole process, and a pretty 1032 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: big part of the process. UM. But it's not the 1033 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: end all be all either, but certainly something that we 1034 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: use and every team I've been with for twenty four 1035 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: years is use it as well. So it's nothing new. 1036 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: We're we had like this is what I said before. 1037 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: There are so many moving parts in free agency. We 1038 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 1: still got some things to talk over. But I also 1039 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: realize how much he brings our our football team. He 1040 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: showed that last year. So it's just not an easy 1041 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 1: They're not always easy answers, but you know, he showed 1042 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the year what he could still do. 1043 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, though, those last two games that he played 1044 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: when we needed him the most he stepped up and 1045 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: made plays for us, and I guess he brings so 1046 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: much to the locker room too, But we still have 1047 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: some things to work out. Still, well, I'll probably know 1048 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: them more in a couple of weeks and we'll talk 1049 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: with some people here enough. Still kind of you don't 1050 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: really know because he was really only out there with 1051 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we feel confident about it, but he only 1052 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: got a couple of weeks in training camps, so he 1053 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: still has a lot of work to do. I don't 1054 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: think anyone's just going to give somebody a position, so 1055 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: but we're excited about him. I'm excited about what he 1056 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: can bring our offensive line. Price see him as a guard. Yes, 1057 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: for you stout players different season, it's just it's just 1058 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: part of the job. I mean, the college games a 1059 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: little bit different than that pro game. But um, in 1060 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: the end, you're looking for different traits that players have 1061 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 1: at certain positions and then you're projecting them to this level. 1062 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: So that that's, you know, what we do for a 1063 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: living every day. So it's it's not not too bad. Tom, 1064 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about Austin potentially? Yes, I 1065 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: thought he did a really nice job for us. Last year, 1066 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: I think he had over six hundred all purpose yards 1067 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: both running the ball, receiving the ball at the backfield. 1068 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: UM did a great job by special teams for us 1069 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: as a gunner and covering kicks. He's really was one 1070 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: of our better special teamers last year. UM. So he 1071 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: has a lot of value to what's a lot of roles. 1072 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: I think he will continue to grow as he gets 1073 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: older and learns more. But we're excited about what he 1074 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: can bring to the offense. More options, the better you know, 1075 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: the more you have a receiver, a tight end and 1076 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: running back. It's it's hard for running back to take 1077 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: every snap every game for sixteen weeks, and the way 1078 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: Melbourne runs with it with his violence and aggression, UM, 1079 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: you do need another back in there to, you know, 1080 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: give him a rest a little bit. But the back 1081 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: they're going to make some plays for us and and 1082 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: and also obviously a much different style than Melbourne too, 1083 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: so that helps out a starting veteran quarterback. How do 1084 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: you know when it's time to planning for the future, 1085 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: to kind of look ahead. I mean it's that contract, performance, 1086 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: injury base the quarterback position. You're always looking. I don't 1087 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: care if you have a young quarterback or older quarterback, 1088 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: but certainly in our case or our starting quarterback, you 1089 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: know it's it's thirty plus. Um. We've always been looking 1090 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: to see where that next quarterback is, fully knowing that 1091 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: if that guy comes in, where there's a draft or 1092 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: trade or even free agency, if the play the player 1093 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: ass for one year, two years, three years or longer, 1094 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: then he'll sit. Because we're very happy with way Phillips playing. Um, 1095 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,479 Speaker 1: that's that's just part of it. But we'll be ready 1096 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: in that what we're always prepared to do with what 1097 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: we have to do. It just hasn't lined up yet 1098 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: for us drafting a quarterback in the first round. I mean, 1099 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: you're okay with sitting him as a roote with it, 1100 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: I wouldn't take any options off the table. And if 1101 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,919 Speaker 1: the kids sits for a number of years, he sits 1102 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: for a number of years. How do you think about 1103 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: Thet's quarterback class. It's good, It's been good the last 1104 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: couple of years, but I think it's good this year. 1105 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: And it's not just first round either. There's a number 1106 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: of good quarterbacks there. It's actually the draft as a 1107 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: whole I think is very strong for Tyroll like you know, 1108 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: different stallas of receivers, but they brought a lot to 1109 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 1: our offense. We threw the ball very well, protected, well 1110 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: through the ball well between Keenan and Travis, Benjamin Tyroll, Williams, 1111 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: obviously Hunter Henry who we talked about, a couple of 1112 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: running backs. It gets our quarterback a lot of options, 1113 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: more willingness is compared to years past. Now it's it's 1114 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: it's happened, it's happened going way back. So they're more challenges. 1115 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: Obviously with the type of contract you'd be doing with 1116 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: that player, that might bring a little bit more challenges, 1117 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 1: but it's not too difficult to do. It's got any 1118 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and you're looking for somebody that made it well, 1119 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: Philip's really good players. I don't know if you want to, 1120 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: but I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Um, 1121 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you want to really take any options 1122 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: off the table because there's only so many quarterbacks available 1123 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: every year and you can't just have have one model 1124 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,479 Speaker 1: that this is the only model we're looking for, because 1125 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: you may wait a long time to you find that player. 1126 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: So whether it's a more pocket quarterback or whether it's 1127 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can more play on the move. I 1128 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: think you have to be open to any of those 1129 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: those options, and I think our coaching staff can really 1130 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: work with any type of quarterback. So um, obviously coming 1131 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: out of the college ranks, more quarterbacks are mobile than 1132 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: than probably pocket quarterbacks at this point. But um, you know, 1133 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: we'd be open to anything, a clear path board with 1134 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: an extension that you guys have any of those discuss No, 1135 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: but I would anticipate him being here Tom, How do 1136 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: you guys feel about the dance? I think he got 1137 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: a little run at center and training camp. He maybe 1138 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: I think a little bit of center at camp and 1139 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,959 Speaker 1: then mostly at guard and then when when Matt Slaus 1140 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: went down, he went in and played the rest of 1141 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: your at left guard. Um, he has some versatility between 1142 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: guard and center. Um, so that's good for us, and 1143 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: we really think he can play almost equally as well. 1144 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: He either spots. We'll kind of see how it shakes 1145 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: out during the offseason, depending on who's back, who are 1146 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: best five are upfront? But I think he could probably 1147 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: play either guard or center. Moving forwards, Hayward definitely are 1148 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 1: how im wanted to have that much? Definitely, Yeah, you 1149 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: have to be other cover in this league, and the 1150 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: more corners the better. You can never have enough of them. Um, 1151 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: Jason has been to come along, come along really well. 1152 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: I mean he's really gonna add to our secondary right there. 1153 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: Our secondary did a really nice job last year. Our 1154 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: defense as a whole, we kept people out of the 1155 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: end zone. So but the secondary did a nice job, 1156 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: didn't give up very many big plays. But you have 1157 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: to be able to cover, and to add him back 1158 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: would be a huge helps Jason, I'm back like he's 1159 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: up four of starting the ore about playtime. No, it's 1160 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: a great problem to have, um. And I think Desmond 1161 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things too. Um, but 1162 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: you got to line up and cover people in this league, 1163 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: and the more the better, and we'll get it figured out. 1164 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: Quite possibly it could. Yeah, No, it's that's that's a 1165 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: good that's a good point. Um. You got to have 1166 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: one to win, and they're hard to find and they're 1167 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: in every an asset. Um. And the Eagles did a 1168 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: great job havingenough quarterback like Nick Fole and come in 1169 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: and play as well as he did. And um, look 1170 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: what we all try and do that we all try 1171 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: and have a backup. That's good enough to come in 1172 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: and take it to the promised Land as well. Hard 1173 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: to do, but it's all of our goals to have 1174 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: that guy. Um, there's just uh, the supply isn't always 1175 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: as much big as you would like. But there's no 1176 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: doubt your evaluation. And I'll trade Boston played where you 1177 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: had stuff. I mean for trade to come in. He 1178 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: came in a little late in the process. Um came in, 1179 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,879 Speaker 1: played that snaps for us. I don't think he missed 1180 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,760 Speaker 1: a day at practice. Uh, great enthusiasm on the field, 1181 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: in the locker room, made plays in the passing game, 1182 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: had five interceptions, he probably could have had seven or eight. 1183 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: Um came in and play really really solid football for us. 1184 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: Much fun as and evaluation. Look at a guy, funny 1185 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: guy of all points wield It is unique and he is. Uh. 1186 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: It's really a fun evaluation because watching the tape of 1187 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: watching him play is is. Uh. You don't see very 1188 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: often I can carry his team the way he does, 1189 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: and he does a number of different things really well. Um, 1190 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: but those those are the those are the fun ones 1191 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: to watch. Nicky Ropars. He's an excellent coach, very detailed, 1192 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: very smart, works great with the players, know his offense 1193 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: very well, and I knew at some point that he 1194 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: would be a coordinator at this level. I was hoping 1195 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: to be a little bit later down the line for 1196 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: our sake because I'm we're a little selfish. But for him, 1197 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: he's he's earned it, and the Colts got a great, 1198 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 1: great football coach and a great person too. I don't 1199 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: know if it's impacted, but but you do have. Like 1200 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,720 Speaker 1: I talked before, you're looking for certain traits that translate 1201 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: to this level. Um, you know there's some positive A 1202 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks playing the spread system. They throw the ball out 1203 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,399 Speaker 1: in college nowadays a lot more. They throw the ball 1204 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: more in college now than it did twenty thirty years ago. 1205 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: So um that OBSESSI valuate their arms, their armed talent um. 1206 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: But with offensive, laminate quarterbacks, you're looking for certain traits. 1207 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: And this differ for every position. But this is what 1208 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: our scouts do all year round. This is all they 1209 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: do is to evaluate college players, uh, to see if 1210 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: they projected the NFL. And UH, there's thirty two teams. 1211 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: We're all doing the same work. So it's like nobody 1212 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: has an advantage over somebody else. Their challenges. It's just 1213 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: part of the job. Do you have a sense for 1214 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: Red be able to still he's still rehabbing. But I'm 1215 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: really not going to speculate on any of our injured 1216 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: guys as far as exactly when they're going to start. 1217 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: But everything's on track. Sorry, tracting day now being shared 1218 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: among the team. I really hadn't thought about the public 1219 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 1: part of it, and I'm not exactly sure what what 1220 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: Baseball does, Um. You know, for us it's relatively new. 1221 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 1: Is we used to get our own our our own 1222 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,240 Speaker 1: GPS data from game day and now I guess eventually 1223 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: we'll get all thirty two teams. Um, I don't know 1224 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: what the public it is. We still have to work 1225 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: through exactly what we'll use it for as far as 1226 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: the our opponents. It's kind of exciting a little bit. 1227 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: It's like a brand new frontier and how we can 1228 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: use it both coaching wise and scouting wise. But it's 1229 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: relatively new for us. There were moments in practice he 1230 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: looked really really good, and there's moments in practice he 1231 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: looked like he still needs some work, which is natural 1232 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: for a young quarterback. I think in the preseason games 1233 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: where he came into the process trying to learn the offense. 1234 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we saw the full cardale last year 1235 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: in the preseason. I liked to I saw in practice. 1236 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: He needs live game reps and he'll see that this preseason. 1237 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: Now he's got a full year under his belt. We're 1238 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: excited about the progress though. I mean, he's big, strong, athletic, 1239 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: throws the ball well, he's smart, he can make plays 1240 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: with his feet, So there's a lot of talent there. 1241 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that work with but you'd 1242 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: like to see some live reps. You know, we can't 1243 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: send him an NFL Europe. There's no other place to 1244 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: send him for those live quarterback reps. You can only 1245 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: get so much aractice. But we're excited about his development 1246 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: to see how far he can take it. Were there 1247 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: lessons to be learned from the way the kicking competition 1248 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: went on the last off season. I know you guys 1249 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: at the time it said like you cannot a young 1250 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: way to spend more tanks. Were you handled that differently? Uh? Year, right, 1251 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: I guess how you're going to Yeah, So the end 1252 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 1: result didn't work. So you got to look at it 1253 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: and see how we evaluate and where we maybe made 1254 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: a mistake. Maybe we didn't, but let's look at it 1255 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: again because the end result wasn't good enough. So um, 1256 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: in the moment, when you make those decisions all the 1257 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: way through, you're think you're making the right decision for 1258 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: all the right reasons. Doesn't always work out the way 1259 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: you had planned. Obviously, that one didn't work out the 1260 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: way we had planned. But we have some pretty good 1261 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 1: options moving forward for this year. We have a number 1262 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: of different options. I think we're where we are right now. 1263 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't think we can say, hey, this is the 1264 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: one way we're gonna go. We gotta look at everything. 1265 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: Um so uh, but we'll, like I said before, we'll 1266 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: get that fixed. Afternoon, lant you somebody here to combine 1267 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 1: one of year going to you're the combined but the 1268 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: whole year. When finishing with last nine of twelve, Well, 1269 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to, uh, you know, starting this season 1270 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: like we finished last season. You know, I felt good 1271 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,439 Speaker 1: about our team last year. At the end of the season. 1272 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: I thought the coaching staff was on the same page. 1273 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: I thought the players were all bought in and uh, 1274 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, very resilient group. I think we learned a 1275 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: lot about ourselves. Was first four weeks of the season, 1276 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: and uh, I thought that was something that we could 1277 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: build on and hopefully we can carry that momentument the 1278 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: next year. I was really important, you know, I warned 1279 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: some consistency, you know, and uh bringing those coordinators back 1280 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: and the way we finished, like I said, I feel 1281 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 1: like we were all on the same page and pulling 1282 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: in the same direction. And so I wanted those guys 1283 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: back for the whole season, and uh, I thought the 1284 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: organization stepped up into a nice job of signing those guys. 1285 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: How much more comfort you know, having done the transition 1286 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: standing Los Angeles a year or two, you haven't just 1287 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: been solely about football, and you felt that kind of 1288 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: in the office. Oh absolutely, you know, going into this year, 1289 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're not worrying about the move, were not 1290 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 1: worried about training camp and all those gymnastics and hiring 1291 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff. I feel very comfortable going in 1292 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: this year, much more so. And just being with the 1293 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: personnel department for a year. Uh, you know, we're all 1294 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: under the same philosophy, were all pulling in the same direction, 1295 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: and I'm getting to know those guys and developing those relationships. 1296 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel much better with that. You guys, 1297 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 1: we need to look around the rest of the team 1298 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: during the fund states. Well, it can't it can't hurt. 1299 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an advantage, but it can't hurt, 1300 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, to have some consistency going into this year. 1301 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: I think how you handle that, you know, as makes 1302 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: a big difference. Well, I knew he was gonna be 1303 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: an OCA and our really planning on losing Nick, and 1304 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I was surprised the call came so late. You know, 1305 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: I was pre praying for that. But Nick's he's heck 1306 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: of a coach. Uh, I know it's gonna be Uh. 1307 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a great officercordinator for Frank. Uh. He 1308 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 1: works his tail off. Um. I enjoyed working with him, 1309 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: and he's just a good solid man. What do you 1310 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: want to see at big? He means that losing forward 1311 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: last year, that that was big because I saw enough 1312 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: in a week to know what he could have done 1313 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. But yeah, he's working 1314 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: his way back right now. He's not quite back yet, 1315 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: but with him back in the lineup at the right 1316 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: guard position, you know, I'm expecting uh things. I'm expecting 1317 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: him to pick up where he left off. Last year 1318 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: and uh, we'll see I ain't been around you're ready 1319 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: for you know, we're gonna have to monitor him throughout 1320 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: the off season and uh, we'll see where he's at. No. 1321 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: TASM love quarterbacks career, but there are traits that you value, 1322 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, evaluating quarterbacks here. You know, Philip is like 1323 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: a coach on the field, and that's what you're wanting 1324 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: your quarterback. He studies and he prepares no definitely than 1325 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: I do. And I mean he's on the field, I 1326 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: feel very comfortable that he's going to get out guys 1327 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: in the right position and he's going to deliver the 1328 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: mill to where he's supposed to go. I thought he 1329 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: took another step as far as recognizing run fronts. Uh 1330 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: and in defenses a lot of players would call in 1331 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: the right game was scus Philip changed the place and 1332 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: so uh you know that that right there, you can't 1333 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: teach that. That's that's wontive, that's hard working. You know, 1334 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: he has this little uh is as you read that, 1335 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: he's put his mobile office in. I mean things unbelievable, 1336 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: all the video, all the technology you want in it. 1337 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: I was setting the back seat with him and and 1338 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: he's I mean he's working all the time. Man, these quarterbacks, 1339 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: everybody's didn't playing for us, we're trying to get better, 1340 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: so uh and not not just quarterback on me, every position. 1341 01:02:53,000 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: How comfortable argue with doors running back the way he 1342 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,439 Speaker 1: finished the season, I'm very comfortable. I mean, how about 1343 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: he was one of the best runners in the game 1344 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: his last four weeks, and it just seems like the 1345 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: bigger the game, the better he plays. I do think 1346 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: we're all gonna have to monitor that. Neil of bit. 1347 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, he was gamping a little bit at the 1348 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: beginning of the season. I think because he may be 1349 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: pushed too much in training count and so being around 1350 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 1: him for a year and knowing what he can handle, Uh, 1351 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: we just have to do a better job with that. 1352 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: But I'm very comfortable with Melvin Gordon in the last 1353 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: four weeks that was better. Well, you know, I think 1354 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: he felt better. You know, if you if you ask Melvin, 1355 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, his knee felt better, His his treatment was 1356 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: paying off. And uh, and sometimes things are not going 1357 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent, if you heard him, and 1358 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: you have to learn how to play with an entry, 1359 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and I think Melvin did a good job of doing 1360 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: that I hope not. You know, uh maybe, but I 1361 01:03:51,000 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 1: hope not any difference in the starting Yeah, listen, listen, 1362 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, I just know that. You know, if you're 1363 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: gonna compete for a world championship, you better have one 1364 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: or two. You know. If you can't run the football, 1365 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. So uh yeah, you can devalue 1366 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,439 Speaker 1: runners all you want, but in my opinion, you can't 1367 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: have enough of them. What's your reaction to watch the 1368 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: baby quack? He's a special talent man. He can go. 1369 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean he's his acceleration, his lateral agility, his his hands, 1370 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: his ability to return kicks. You know, uh, you know, 1371 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: he's he's a special talent. He's a young player. I mean, 1372 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: people forget this guy never lost a college football game. 1373 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: I know, he's six foot five to sixty. He can 1374 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: move around pretty well as a strong arm. Every day 1375 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 1: in practice he make am to make you shake. Yeah, 1376 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's a highly intelli young man. So there's 1377 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: no reason why he didn't be our free future quarterback, 1378 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: which uh this way, this way, ums strong piece of Jesus. Well. 1379 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I feel about corners, you know, like it's about running, 1380 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: but backs you can never have enough of those two 1381 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 1: and uh, having Jay Jason back, that's gonna be huge. 1382 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: That's just health. He's backing on, gonna line up. We 1383 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things, and we can 1384 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,919 Speaker 1: move Trevor inside and a lot we can have demon 1385 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: in the body. There's just so many things that we 1386 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 1: can do with three three corners. What do you ever needed? 1387 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question. Uh, but I probably 1388 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: be here for the long haul. So if I can 1389 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: get my quarterbackack red now may well wait, but now 1390 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: so I'm just the pitch you're here. But but we're 1391 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: trying to get better than every spot. And uh, and 1392 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 1: you never know what is is gonna stop up and 1393 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: helpep you in who you know. I had to just 1394 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: see him play a couple of games. Haven't really studied 1395 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: him a lot yet, you know, I've been in free agency. 1396 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 1: When we get back, we'll get into college a lot more. 1397 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: But our scouts they watched him long all year. Uh, 1398 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 1: they like him. There's a couple of games I saw. 1399 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 1: I think he's a nightmare for a defense. Uh. I 1400 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: think it's a good quarterback. Well, when you have a 1401 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 1: guy that can move around a little bit like Lamar, 1402 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, you make a defense play leven on eleven, 1403 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: and sometimes they think that's not fair, you know, but 1404 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: when the offense can go eleven on leven, I mean 1405 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: that's that's a defensive cording of this nightmare. So, uh, 1406 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: that's what he brings to the table. What do you 1407 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: guys need to get better in here? So we have 1408 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 1: to stop the run, no doubt about it. You know 1409 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: that that was a Achilles Hill all year was stopping 1410 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 1: the run, and and some of that is coming from 1411 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: the linebacker play. I think we need to get better linebackers. 1412 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we have those edge rushers, and 1413 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I love my edge rushers, but to catch twenty two 1414 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 1: the edge rushers is sometimes over our running lanes. But uh, 1415 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: you know I thought Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, I thought 1416 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: they did a good job once we emphasized stopping the run, 1417 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 1: of playing more down the middle and playing more run 1418 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: technique versus pass technique. And that's really really unselfish of 1419 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 1: those guys. You weren't a going to get him on 1420 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: the hield kind of life. But what were you able 1421 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: to line about the last year? First l when he's healthy, Uh, 1422 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, he can he can help us win. And 1423 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's just unfortunate that he was hurt most 1424 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: of the time. How do you decide what you want 1425 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: quarterback between a young developing guy for a kind of 1426 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: a staging better said again, what you wanted to back 1427 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: up quarterback between the young developing guy made it steady better. 1428 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: We know if you're back up in our la, you know, 1429 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: you have to be extremely intelligent, I think, because you're 1430 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: not gonna get the reps that the stars are gonna get. 1431 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: And so if something happens in the game that guy 1432 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 1: goes down, you step in. You know, we're not gonna 1433 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: call plays differently, we aren't gonna do anything like that. 1434 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: You need to know our system. You need to know 1435 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And at the quarterback position, that's critical 1436 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: because you may be helding protections, you may be hunting hots. 1437 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: You know, you're delivering the mail and and and we 1438 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,560 Speaker 1: feel like we have that in Cardell Jones and and 1439 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Kellen Clemens spent a lot of time last stops talking 1440 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: about you. You're trying to find a compliment. I think 1441 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Austin did a heck of a job last year, you know, 1442 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, I like to have a tandem backfiel. 1443 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, I think when uh it was D'Angelo Williams 1444 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: and Jonathan Stewart. You know, I love the way ten 1445 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: years ago they started that that attack with the tandem backfield, 1446 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 1: and I just think it's two different skill sets. Keeps 1447 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: the defense off balance. And anytime you can attack a 1448 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 1: defense that way, why wouldn't you. You know, I played 1449 01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: in the backfield with Rurell Davis. He cared about four 1450 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 1: hundred times a year, and I'm you can't be at 1451 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: your badge four hundred times a year. You're gonna have 1452 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: to take some time off. And so when you got 1453 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 1: two guys doing it, I think then you have a 1454 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: better chance to have a better Russia type physical I 1455 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: think Austin can compete for that spot, but we need 1456 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,720 Speaker 1: to get someone else to compete for that spot as well. 1457 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Scaling down Movin touches. I think we were twentieth in 1458 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 1: the league in Russia tempts. But he's going about give 1459 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:39,640 Speaker 1: him Evin the ball more and it's gonna be fun. No, 1460 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 1: John's a good friend, you know, here's a lot of 1461 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: passion for the game. I like the way he coach, 1462 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 1: and uh, it's gonna be fun. You know, he hadn't 1463 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: he hadn't been here nine years, so who knows what 1464 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,680 Speaker 1: to expect. But I know he's been studying the game 1465 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: the whole time because we've talked a lot. So, uh, 1466 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: it's a good move bout the Raiders want to come back, absolutely. 1467 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's something that we had a good exit 1468 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: meeting and something that you know, we haven't talked about 1469 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: with Antonio in detail yet, but uh, you know, uh, 1470 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 1: for he's one of the greatest charges of all time, 1471 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: and for a guy to take a back seat to 1472 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry last year and take a secondary role and 1473 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: still be the leader that he was to our players 1474 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: was just very impressive, very impressive. You know, we want 1475 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: to get Hunter Henry's involved for sure, but uh, you know, 1476 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: if a defense want to take Hunter away, then we 1477 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 1: have to look at Keenan, we have to look at Tyrrelle, 1478 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: we have to look up other directions. Even Melvin Gordon 1479 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 1: caught the ball well out of the backfull last year. 1480 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 1: But you know, we don't want to force the ball 1481 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 1: to anybody, but we definitely want to get Hunter and 1482 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 1: more involved. You know, I think I give all the 1483 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 1: credits to those guys. You know, those guys stayed committed, Eric, 1484 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,760 Speaker 1: and uh, they never gave up. They believed in one another, 1485 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 1: to believe in themselves, uh know. And just because we 1486 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: started over four, they didn't a beendon ship. You know, 1487 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: we had a standard, we had an expectations, and they 1488 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: stuck to it. They stay committed and one of the 1489 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 1: horst working groups I've ever had, so you know, you know, 1490 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: just just like I said, just stay committed. You know, 1491 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: just because it doesn't work out the first time, it 1492 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that, you know, you're not doing the right things, 1493 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,680 Speaker 1: you know. And we put a lot of time and 1494 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 1: effort in the off season and building that thing the 1495 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: way we wanted to build it, and uh, we felt 1496 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 1: like it paid off later. I wish we could have 1497 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: started earlier. But you know, I learned a lot about 1498 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 1: myself as far as uh being a new head coach. 1499 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I think at one point everybody in 1500 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 1: the building got the memo of but that I was 1501 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: a head coach. But me, I still was trying to 1502 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,759 Speaker 1: be an offensive cording there, still trying to be running 1503 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 1: back coach. You know, I need to be a little 1504 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: more hands off, let my guys do their job and 1505 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,320 Speaker 1: embraced my role as a head coach in this team. 1506 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 1: I thought that helped things flow a little better. Uh, 1507 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, and just uh, I don't know, I don't know. 1508 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we lost some toughness. It wasn't like we 1509 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: weren't in those games. Those games, those were some close losses. 1510 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,680 Speaker 1: But I just knew the way that team worked and 1511 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 1: when that team showed up and prepared at some point, 1512 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: it was going to turn two more guys, what's up? 1513 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 1: Do you have to bring it up? How important to 1514 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 1: get back? Well, I mean we were addressed right after 1515 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 1: the season. You know, we brought in Robert and uh, 1516 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 1: he's a young talent. He's been he's bounced around a 1517 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: little bit. Uh. We're still looking to bring in some 1518 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: competition there with him and uh, and we'll see. We 1519 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: can find it in the draft. We may address it 1520 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,720 Speaker 1: in the draft. If not, maybe free agency. But I 1521 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: really would like to get a young guy that can 1522 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: grow with the organization and be a part of that 1523 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,320 Speaker 1: locker rooms. From the way that you guys kind of 1524 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 1: conducted last year. No, I think it'll be similar, you know. Uh, 1525 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and last year that kids stepped in and he won 1526 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: the job and uh, No, we pull the trigger to 1527 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: move on because he was a rookie and UH didn't 1528 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: have a lot of experience with him. But maybe we 1529 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,720 Speaker 1: did Kevin, maybe he would have been fine. I don't know, 1530 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 1: but competitions, competition, I don't know if we do it 1531 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 1: any different, And that'll do it. By Thanks to Coach 1532 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 1: Lynn and Matt Bowen for joining me, and as always, 1533 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 1: thanks to you guys for listening. Be sure to subscribe 1534 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: to Charges Weekly on Apple Podcasts, and please leave a 1535 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: review help spread the word. We'll have more interviews from 1536 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 1: the combine in next week's episode. Enjoy the weekend, and 1537 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: until then, I'm Chris Harry