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Speaker 1: Welcome to this edition of The Warning here on Substack

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Speaker 1: Live Chat with Harry Dunn.

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Speaker 2: Harry, Welcome, Steve, Thanks you, thank you, my friend. Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you first off, as we'd get started,

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Speaker 1: take me back to a week before January sixth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. What's your life? What's your life like?

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Speaker 3: You know, Steve, I was a proud member of the

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Speaker 3: United States Capitol Police at that time, a week before,

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Speaker 3: probably twelve years of service already in I've seen all

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Speaker 3: kinds of protests. I've seen you know, shootings at the

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Speaker 3: all kinds of things. January six Well, people don't realize

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Speaker 3: January sixth happened every four years since the beginning of

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Speaker 3: you know, the inception of the Constitution and everything like that.

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Speaker 3: But the only reason people know about it now is

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Speaker 3: because of what happened, obviously at the helms of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the Capitol was closed. We're in the

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Speaker 3: middle of COVID. It was quiet. Congress people came in

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Speaker 3: and they had their votes and the tours were closed.

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Speaker 3: So it was just a quiet government building. You know,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't the US Capitol obviously as business as usual,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't open to the public. So that's what

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Speaker 3: kind of makes what happens on January sixth even more crazy, because,

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Speaker 3: like I said, it wasn't open to the public, and

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Speaker 3: it was just Congress people voting on bills and this

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Speaker 3: and that.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember your first day of duty showing up

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Speaker 1: at the Capitol with the badge?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I sure do.

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Speaker 3: It was twenty twenty eighth.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I I.

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Speaker 3: One of the most poignant moments of early in my

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Speaker 3: career is the day that they passed Obamacare. It was

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Speaker 3: on a Saturday, and that was one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: protests that I've been a part of, and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 3: this is how government works. People protests, you know, vote,

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Speaker 3: and that's the way that it goes. There were hundreds

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Speaker 3: of thousands of people at the US Capitol.

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Speaker 2: It was a Saturday.

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Speaker 3: That's all I remember, because I know we had the

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Speaker 3: day off, but Congress came in rarely on a Saturday,

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Speaker 3: and they passed the bill to make Obama Care law.

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Speaker 3: And obviously it was sent to President Obama to be signed.

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Speaker 3: But there were thousands and thousands of protesters. Not one

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Speaker 3: person attacked police officers. There were people out there having

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Speaker 3: medical emergencies because it was hot, you know, and they

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Speaker 3: were out there protesting at the top of their lungs

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Speaker 3: what they're allowed to do and which we see at

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Speaker 3: the Capitol, and which is one of the bedrocks of

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Speaker 3: this institution of democracy, people being able to protest peacefully

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Speaker 3: their First Amendment rights about their grievances towards the government.

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Speaker 1: What made you want to becoma cop? Did you become

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Speaker 1: a Capital Police officer deliberately you wanted to work at

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Speaker 1: the Capitol, or did you find your way into service

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Speaker 1: in the Capitol Police just by happenstance, the way the

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Speaker 1: way life works. How did you wind up in that?

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Speaker 2: I always wonder, you know, I became a copy you know.

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Speaker 3: I always believe in standing up for the little guy,

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Speaker 3: being a voice for somebody that doesn't have one, taking

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Speaker 3: on bullies. My father was a retired senior Master Sergeant

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Speaker 3: stood to me. Service, playing college semi professional football, having

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to belong to something bigger than yourself, and

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Speaker 3: I feel like those are all contributing factors.

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Speaker 2: That led me to law enforcement.

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Speaker 3: I have four sisters and a daughter so I just

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Speaker 3: am a protector by nature. So I just believe in

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Speaker 3: protecting and which is very crucial. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: forget in the law enforcement world, you're there to serve,

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Speaker 3: not only just there to enforce laws.

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Speaker 2: So I believe in serving my community. I did to

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Speaker 3: Now, the funny thing is I became a Capitol Police officer,

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Speaker 3: but I was going around after my football career and then,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what, it's time to

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Speaker 3: find a job. So I'm going around for two different

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Speaker 3: career fairs and I happen to go to this career fair.

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Speaker 3: I said, wait, the Capitol Police pays how much, you know,

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Speaker 3: so it's kind of like the it's a federal job,

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Speaker 2: And they started out making good money. So I was like,

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Speaker 2: sign me up, you know, and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: And so when you're a Capitol Police officer and you

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Speaker 1: meet other cops, other other police officers, Metro cops, New

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Speaker 1: in the law enforcement community? By by those cops and

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's a little running joke people say

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Speaker 3: they all everybody acknowledges when something happens at the Capitol.

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Speaker 3: It happens, it's like it's a it's not a traffic

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Speaker 3: stop and the bad guys running away, which you know,

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Speaker 3: county and state deal with daily, Like that's not what

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Speaker 3: happens at Capitol police. Capitol Police is in the news

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Speaker 3: the Union, there was threats made or anthrax found. Anytime

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Speaker 3: Capitol Police are mentioned, it's because all hell is broken loose.

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Speaker 3: So it's got like a running joke. So they acknowledge,

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Speaker 3: we know, getting the you know, foot pursuits and.

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Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there are instances where we do you know, like

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Speaker 3: the gyro copper landing at the cap Capital, the woman

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Speaker 2: It's always a big deal when.

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Speaker 3: Anything happens at the Capitol one because it's one of

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Speaker 3: the three branches of government. It's where the most it's

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Speaker 3: arguably the most powerful block in the in the world.

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Speaker 2: So it's very but law enforcement, yeah, they bust our chops.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, but they acknowledge that when it happens

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Speaker 1: And so the culture of the forces, you got to

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Speaker 1: be ready one hundred percent of the time because you

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: You don't know.

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Speaker 3: And also especially in this climate right now, our job,

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Speaker 3: our number one job, is to protect members of Congress

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Speaker 3: so they can do their job, their congressional response, their

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Speaker 3: constitutional responsibilities in a safe and secure environment. Think about

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Speaker 3: the environment that we're in right now. A lot of

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Speaker 3: unhappy with Congress, and you know what, they come to

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Speaker 2: Now, our job is Capitol police officer.

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Speaker 3: Now i'm you know, former Capitol police officers, But our

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Speaker 3: Our job is to make sure that they are safe.

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Speaker 2: It's a running joke.

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Speaker 3: You elect them, we protect them, And that's kind of

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Speaker 3: like what we do at the Capitol Police. So it's

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Speaker 3: it's really a job that takes service at its core,

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Speaker 3: especially in this day and age where so many elected

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Speaker 3: Police in the wake of January sixth, it's so important

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Speaker 3: that those officers remember that obligation. Three years after January sixth,

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Speaker 3: I worked at the Capitol even though members of Congress

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Speaker 3: were on Fox News talking shit about me. People were,

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Speaker 3: you know, discrediting what happened on January sixth, They were

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Speaker 2: They weren't acknowledging what we went through.

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Speaker 3: But I was still there protecting them because I wasn't

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Speaker 3: protecting them as a person.

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Speaker 2: I was protecting that institution.

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Speaker 3: You know, one hundred years from now, that person may

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Speaker 3: not exist, but God willing, that seat is still going

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we're gonna we're gonna talk about We're going

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the Institution. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask you one last question before we turn into that direction.

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Speaker 1: So you're a capital police officer, you have foil your

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Speaker 1: the Capitol. What's it what's it like from your perspective

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Speaker 2: You have seen it.

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Speaker 1: In ways that very very very few people have, and

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Speaker 1: have been into every nook and cranny of it. I

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Speaker 1: think it is, in my view, really without much competition,

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Speaker 1: it's the most beautiful building in the United States. But

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Speaker 1: what are your impressions of working there and being in

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Speaker 1: it and being present with the history there and Statuary Hall.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you brought that up. I thank you

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Speaker 3: It is not lost upon me that I am one

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not lost on me. Slaves built that building,

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Speaker 3: Like it's not lost on me, but it's so beautiful,

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Speaker 3: even institution, just the building so much.

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Speaker 1: So where are you when you get the site first?

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Speaker 1: Line of sight of the crowd, the mob. What is

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Speaker 1: your preferred.

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Speaker 2: Word, terrorists, insurrection.

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Speaker 1: Terrorists, the terrorists coming up the Where do you get

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Speaker 1: your first look at them coming up? Where you say,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, they're there? How how far away are they? Where?

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Speaker 1: Where are you just in in the whole melee of things.

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Speaker 3: So my particular unit, I were called the first Responders unit.

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Speaker 3: So first Responders was responsible for the exterior of the

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Speaker 3: Capitol building, not the cannon, not the long word. The

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Speaker 3: Capitol Building exterior is where I was. And at the

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Speaker 3: I mean literally felt like a pep rally all day long.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it wasn't even the amount of

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Speaker 3: Be the march life, which is a peaceful protest that supports,

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Speaker 2: Assault police officers. But that is not the gate.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to the argument that? And I

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Speaker 1: What this person says to me is that, yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I'm glad that you brought that up.

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Speaker 3: Listen, there were a lot of dumb people who did

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Speaker 3: for the punishment needs to fit the crime. Now, you

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Speaker 3: Maybe you didn't attack an officer and you just happened

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Speaker 3: You need to be held accountable. Now I'm suggesting that

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Speaker 3: and you know what to talk about, like to debunk

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Speaker 2: They're not hostages.

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Speaker 3: The people that just wandered into capital, they got misdemeanors,

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Speaker 1: What I was saying is, we're talking about the amount

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Speaker 3: Well, shit, Steve, if you look, one has already been

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Speaker 3: There's I think it been ten to this point. Now

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Speaker 2: And you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: The scary thing about it is with Donald Trump pardoning them,

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Speaker 1: It sure does. And so that's astounding And I didn't

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, that's correct.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like it's kind of like Darwin saying

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Speaker 2: Like like Jesus christ Man.

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Speaker 1: So so when you when you look at the country

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Listen, Like, don't get it wrong, I'm pissed,

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Speaker 3: like fuck these people. Like I live to be very

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Speaker 3: to condemn the pardons. You know what, That's enough to

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six is a long way away. Sure, but

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Speaker 3: Trump's not going to jail, Donald Trump be impeached, But

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Speaker 3: Trump can face accountability their representatives. There's state re larias

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Speaker 2: So it's really important.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm determined, right, I'm not just going to

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Speaker 2: No, hell no, I'm not conceding. I'm not rolling over.

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Speaker 2: What's the alternative. The alternative is letting Donald Trump and

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Speaker 3: I'm praying that it's not in vain, but it's worth it.

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Speaker 3: We can't The only thing I can't do is nothing.

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Speaker 3: I get people are frustrated, and I get people are mad. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I sat in fucking courtrooms for four years, man, and

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I sat behind the plaintiff. Because this ain't the same

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Speaker 2: This DJ is for a person, and it's we.

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Speaker 3: Got to, like Steve, I get so damn flustered, man, like,

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Speaker 3: it's we got to do something, and listen, we got

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Speaker 2: Let's organize, Let's be involved.

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Speaker 3: Don't have wait until November the fifth, November sixth to

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Speaker 2: Do your work now. It's be involved.

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Speaker 1: There's two thousand people on this call listening to us,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk very specifically about what Democrats

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to ask you a bunch more questions,

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. And you know, Harry's football career

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Speaker 1: as we all do. And Harry winds up in the

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Speaker 1: deep emotional attachment to the institution of reverence for it,

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Speaker 1: for the building, for the duty, for the obligations and

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Speaker 1: the responsibility. And in this moment of despair and miserable

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Speaker 1: miserableness in the country of misery. While this happens, we

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Speaker 1: see heroism, right is so one of the darkest days

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Speaker 1: in the history of the of the country produces American

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Speaker 1: heroes as it as it always does right and it

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Speaker 1: and it produces Harry Dunn, and it produces Capitol police

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Speaker 1: officers who move to the front, who defend the Office

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Speaker 1: and defend the Congress. And this is elemental. This is

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Speaker 1: this is a defense of the of the cornerstone of

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Speaker 1: our civilization. It's very important that we all appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Capitol was saved from total destruction on

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Speaker 1: September eleventh by by the passengers of United Flight ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Ordinary Americans crashed a commercial airliner because they knew that

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Speaker 1: that plane was headed to Washington, d c. They did

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Speaker 1: it with a consciousness of action, and they gave their

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Speaker 1: lives to defend what has been properly called the citadel

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Speaker 1: of democracy. And so now the Democratic Party has to

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Speaker 1: has to do something, and it's tough. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell a story about Winston Churchill. When the French fell

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Speaker 1: to the Nazis, the Nazis got the French Navy, and

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Speaker 1: the French navy was the second largest in the world,

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Speaker 1: and the British Admiralty had to make a very difficult decision,

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Speaker 1: which was to sink the French fleet. And they did,

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Speaker 1: and it's a chapter that's not particularly recalled, this moment

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Speaker 1: where the British navy kills thousands of French sailors and

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Speaker 1: sinks the French fleet to prevent it from sailing and

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Speaker 1: carrying out the aims of a fascist French government, the

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Speaker 1: the VS government. And so it denies the it denies

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Speaker 1: the UH, it denies the Nazis, the use of the ships.

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Speaker 1: But it signaled something else. And what it signaled is

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Speaker 1: we'll do fucking anything to win and so and so,

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Speaker 1: if you read the papers right now and you read

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Speaker 1: the media, what the two Democratic leaders are saying or

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Speaker 1: not saying is saying a lot. And what they're saying

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Speaker 1: is we have not yet attached any conditions to the

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Speaker 1: opening of discussions for votes to keep the government funded.

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Speaker 1: In order for Donald Trump to wreck the government, which

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Speaker 1: seems to be his intent, the Democrats need to fund it.

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Speaker 1: In other words, Democrats can protect the government by putting

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Speaker 1: it into a coma.

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Speaker 2: Nobody will belay.

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Speaker 1: And so the protection of the government, and by government,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean a program. I mean government of the people,

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Speaker 1: by the people, for the people, at the expense of programs.

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Speaker 1: And when the government is shut down, people will be hurt.

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Speaker 1: We have crossed that line that there is going to

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Speaker 1: be real suffering, not pretend suffering. And so what Democrats

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Speaker 1: have to do in this moment, I think, is to

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Speaker 1: communicate very clearly today are prepared to use the only

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Speaker 1: leverage they have, which are the votes on the spending package,

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Speaker 1: to say we will shut it down if you do

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Speaker 1: not get Elon Musk and big Balls and the rest

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Speaker 1: of these computer in cells out of the government, and

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Speaker 1: you do not restore the spector generals, and you do

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Speaker 1: not make for a full accounting of what it is

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Speaker 1: they did, we will not open the discussions to fund

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Speaker 1: the government. Not that we won't give you the votes.

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Speaker 1: We won't talk to you about the votes until this stops.

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Speaker 1: And don't try me pretending to be a good Democratic leader,

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Speaker 1: because I'll keep it shut for two years and we

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Speaker 1: can have a vote and the American people can decide

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Speaker 1: where we paddle next then. Because the same system that

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Speaker 1: produced President Trump a forty nine point nine percent of

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Speaker 1: the vote produced a one seat Republican majority, which means

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Speaker 1: Democrats have leverage, but they have to be willing to

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Speaker 1: sink the fleet and the deal is right now. Trump

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Speaker 1: knows He's sitting across the table from people who will blink.

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Speaker 1: So that's the moment we're at. That's the one card

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have, like, how do you see this?

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Speaker 2: I agree with the one hundred percent of which are saying.

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Speaker 3: I think what's very important as I'm reading some of

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Speaker 3: the comments are and they're fantastic. Democrats need to be

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Speaker 3: very honest about what's going on, and they need to

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Speaker 3: be very honest about what they can and cannot do.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are saying, impeached Donald Trump. It's

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Speaker 3: not going to happen. It will not happen. It cannot happen.

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Speaker 3: If any bring articles resolution, it won't pass the House,

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Speaker 3: won't pass the Senate.

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. He's not going to jail. Elon

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Speaker 2: Muska isn't going to jail.

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Speaker 3: The dj is run by Pam Bondi, FBI soon could

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Speaker 3: be run by cash matail Donald Trump loyalists. So we

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Speaker 3: need to be very honest and transparent with the public

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Speaker 3: about what can and cannot happen. I'm all for protesting

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Speaker 3: and everything like that. That's great. Like I said, I

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Speaker 3: worked at the Capitol, everybody protested. Absolutely, get out there,

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Speaker 3: and make your voices heard. But the actual real change

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Speaker 3: that's not going to happen. These key people don't care

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Speaker 3: about pressure. Donald Trump, damn sure doesn't. But these Republicans,

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Speaker 3: like you just said, that same election that gave forty

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Speaker 3: nine point nine to sin Donald Trump produced a one

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Speaker 3: seat majority. So these House of Representative members, they are

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Speaker 3: under pressure.

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Speaker 2: People like Mike Lawler in New York who runs a

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Speaker 2: purple district.

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Speaker 3: He can't just say everything yes, Donald Trump because he

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Speaker 3: won't be in office in two years if he does that.

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Speaker 3: There are so many other people that are in districts

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Speaker 3: like that, in purple districts. Get attention those keep your

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Speaker 3: foot on their necks. Obviously, I'm metaphorically speaking. Got to

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Speaker 3: be clear nowadays because I don't want nobody, Oh theyn't

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Speaker 3: put their foot on there. Well maybe no, I'm joking drunking,

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Speaker 3: but no, listen, we have to get out there. You

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Speaker 3: have to be understanding. We're not Democrats. They're not going

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Speaker 3: to codify real rewave. They're not going to pass gun legislation,

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Speaker 3: they're not going to protect the Affordable Healthcare Act.

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Speaker 2: None of that shit's going to happen. Right now.

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Speaker 3: We are we are in the middle of the fucking

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Speaker 3: ocean with no life raft, with no boat in sight,

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Speaker 3: and you gotta fucking tread water for two goddamn years.

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Speaker 3: That's what's at stake right now. Elon Musk isn't going

552
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Speaker 3: to jail right now when they're this administration, don't. It's

553
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Speaker 3: not going to happen. So I agree with you one

554
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Speaker 3: hundred percent, Steve about shut this bitch down.

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Speaker 2: Put it in a coma.

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Speaker 3: You know what, medically induced coma. You know we're going

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Speaker 3: to come back for you, but right now you're not.

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Speaker 3: It's not safe for you to be outside right now.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to put you into a medically induced

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Speaker 3: coma and we're going to come back and wake you

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Speaker 3: up in two years when Democrats or capable and teaching

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Speaker 3: adults take back the body of Congress.

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Speaker 1: Do you see yourself running for office again?

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Speaker 2: I did? Oh again?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know. I want to go

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Speaker 3: to where I'm helpful, to where I'm useful. A Jamie

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Speaker 3: Raskin right now is my congressman. There's no way in

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Speaker 3: the hell out runninggat Jamie Maskin. I love every I

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Speaker 3: love everything about him. He's one of our fighters out there.

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Speaker 3: And he is putting in the work. But if there's

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Speaker 3: an opportunity that presents that actually makes sense, Like I

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Speaker 3: didn't wake up and have a dream to become a

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Speaker 3: who in their right mind wants to go join Congress.

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Speaker 3: Obviously unless somebody that has know the self gratification that

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Speaker 3: they want to fulfill, I don't. I want to be

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Speaker 3: here for the people. That's why, Like I said, I'm

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Speaker 3: here in Wisconsin right now. I'm not getting paid. It's

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Speaker 3: five degrees out here. What the hell am I doing

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Speaker 3: here in Wisconsin? But listen, I haven't rooted out To

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Speaker 3: answer your question, I am. I do want to get

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Speaker 3: involved with the elected DNC members. I believe that all

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Speaker 3: of them realize the DNC had shortcomings, and they you

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Speaker 3: know what, we got to fix it because the old

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Speaker 3: way isn't working. And I would love to be part

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Speaker 3: of that solution going forward.

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Speaker 1: So I went. I went to a premiere of a

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Speaker 1: movie about Christian nationalism. I did it. I was I

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Speaker 1: was in this thing, and I was invited to the

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Speaker 1: premiere and I wound up sitting next to two Democratic

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Speaker 1: members of Congress and I say to one of them,

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Speaker 1: I'll say, who it is, Like, how you doing, and

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Speaker 1: he goes and he goes, hey, yes, I'm good. I'm good, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and here's any points to his colleague goes, I'm better

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Speaker 1: than this guy because, you know, because he grew up

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Speaker 1: with nothing is he became like a Rhodes scholar. He

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Speaker 1: went to Harvard and he's got the same job as

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Speaker 1: Lauren Bobert. And so I I I you know, I

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Speaker 1: was a staffer on the hill earlier in my career.

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Speaker 1: I've been around politics for you know, for my career,

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Speaker 1: around the campaigns. I I it would be a truly

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Speaker 1: terrible job, right to be to be in Congress, and

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Speaker 1: it would be it would be a hard job unless, right,

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Speaker 1: you literally lived between Washington and somewhere between Richmond and

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Speaker 1: like New York City, right, and then it would be manageable.

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Speaker 1: But from the West Coast and and all of that

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Speaker 1: stuff coming in, and if you're doing it right, people, people,

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Speaker 1: people are up there forty fifty years, right, and they

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Speaker 1: can't walk away from it. Do you have any insight?

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Speaker 1: Right just about the personality type? Right, they just can't

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Speaker 1: get enough of this right that I've been around it

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Speaker 1: for thirty years and I still don't have my head

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Speaker 1: around it that that what is it right about what

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Speaker 1: I process as as misery? Right? It will lock in

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Speaker 1: a cubicle, write and dial for dollars all day long

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Speaker 1: to keep this job. Do you have any sense of

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Speaker 1: having washed all of these people? Like maybe somebody like

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Speaker 1: a birder in the park? Right? What makes these people

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Speaker 1: tick like that?

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Speaker 2: You know what you mean?

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Speaker 3: Members the Congress specifically? Yeah, yeah, they're burst for power

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Speaker 3: and relevancy. To be very honest, what Lauren Bober doesn't

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Speaker 3: care about her community?

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Speaker 2: Like, be for real? Does he care about her community? Like?

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Speaker 2: What is she doing on the weekends? That? What are

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Speaker 2: these people doing on their weekends?

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Speaker 3: Like the people that I see that are involved in

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Speaker 3: their community, those are the ones that are actually fighting

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Speaker 3: and putting to work in and the ones that actually

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Speaker 3: know when to leave and walk away. I've done what

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Speaker 3: I'm capable of, and that's what when I ran, I've

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Speaker 3: been planning on being there longer than ten years.

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Speaker 2: Shit, five years seems like a long time.

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Speaker 3: Let me fight this moment, let me do and you

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Speaker 3: know what, bring somebody else in, Like it's literally a

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Speaker 3: game of football, Bring their subs in or hockey, bring

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Speaker 3: the new line in. I could just let somebody else

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Speaker 3: do it, like one person believing that they alone can

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Speaker 3: fix it.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a book, a Donald Trump book. Hello,

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Speaker 2: they're stupid.

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Speaker 3: Nobody can do this alone in times are ever evolving

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Speaker 3: and changing.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I listen, I love, I respect Nancy Pelos, I respected

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Speaker 3: you know Stinny. Those A lot of people have done

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Speaker 3: a lot of work. I mean even Joe Biden, I

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Speaker 3: got respect for fifty fucking years. Like, listen, I get it.

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Speaker 3: And also like I'm a little conflicted too because people

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Speaker 3: still vote for them, and people still believe in them,

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Speaker 3: and why don't they have the ability?

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Speaker 2: So I'm a little conflicted when it comes to that.

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Speaker 3: But I just think people need to get rid of

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Speaker 3: your ego and do what's best for people, you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's believing and giving other people a chance, you know.

655
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: And it's not a shot at anybody.

656
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: Like none of the people that name, I have utmost

657
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 3: respect and love for all of them, and I would

658
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: support and run through fucking doors walls for them, and

659
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: I have, I mean hell, and I will continue to.

660
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: But I just believe that people listen, look at the

661
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: amount of people that sat out this election, not because

662
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: they like didn't like common Erison like down Trump. People

663
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: just didn't feel heard. People people felt and you have

664
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: to reach those people.

665
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: Where are you gonna be five years from now?

666
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: Shit?

667
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: Man, hold on, let me take a shit man. That's

668
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: a double ipa. It's actually really good on five years

669
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: from now. I mean, I mean, prayer forly Donald Trump

670
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: isn't in the White House. I mean it sounds crazy,

671
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: right twenty twenty eight. Donald is out right, but I mean,

672
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: will he be it's creasing to be out right.

673
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: He's not nobody on this on this call should should

674
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: play along at all with the third term nonsense, right,

675
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: He's not going to serve a third term. It's completely

676
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: delusional and it's aimed at jerking everybody's chain, and we

677
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: have to all of us stop doing that.

678
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: You know, I'm won't get slightly it's not really slightly joking.

679
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: A little bit, but but you know what I mean,

680
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: It depends on what kind of shape he leads his

681
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: country in.

682
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean.

683
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: Exactly, it's bad now. So we need to have people

684
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: that are willing to I don't necessarily know if I

685
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: want to continue. I'm exhausted. It's been four years. Of

686
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: me fighting this fight. I would love for somebody to

687
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: be able to be able to do this.

688
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: I shit, I still I don't. I quit my job.

689
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: I didn't retire. I quit four years short of before pension.

690
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: So I don't have a luxury to sit back and

691
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 3: say I'm going to be able to collect my pension.

692
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean.

693
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: I'm doing a damn substack and begging people to subscribe

694
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: and pay so I could pay my damn bills. And sorry,

695
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: this is not It's not a plea for help or anything.

696
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm doing Okay, but I'm tired.

697
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Everybody on here can find you.

698
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: And yeah, Harry done. Uh.

699
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: Standing Our Ground is the name of Harry Dunn, Standing

700
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 3: Our Ground, and that's actually the name of my book,

701
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: Standing Our Ground. But but listen, I'm just here to

702
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: just meet this moment and fight my friend.

703
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: I believe in God, and I you know whatever, If

704
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: you don't, you don't.

705
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: But I believe that in this moment, I'm going to

706
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: be all right, and I know that people are going

707
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: to take care of me.

708
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: He's going to take care of me. And the only thing.

709
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: That I could not do is not do what I

710
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: know it's right. Like, I couldn't live with myself if

711
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: I didn't speak Like people say, oh my gosh, you're

712
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: so brave to speak out on January.

713
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not.

714
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't live with myself if I didn't speak out,

715
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: Cause you got to do what's right.

716
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: You know what.

717
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: You know what beats this moment that we're in, Steve,

718
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: it's not an executive order, it's not a it's not

719
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: a protest.

720
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: It's fucking moral courage. Man. Somebody got to stand up

721
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: and fight back against this shit.

722
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: I saw one comment that says, Lauren Bober want to

723
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: be in Congress so she could uh drink and get

724
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: laid and fifty so, but she couldn't do that in Colorado.

725
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: Let's let's go out in Colorado, beetlejuice.

726
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: Right, she shouldn't have to come to Congress. Uh, she

727
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to come to Congress, and uh flicked all

728
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: of that on us. I do think when I listen

729
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: to you talk about your indignation at the effrontery of

730
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: so many elected officials towards the institution that you revere,

731
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: how did that happen? How did we get to that

732
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: place over the course of your career.

733
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: I you know what, I wouldn't consider myself a political

734
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: person growing up. I mean I was aware, but I

735
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: think it just comes with the maturity of being an adult.

736
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: I mean I worked at the foot of government where

737
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: all of our lives are affected, you know, so like

738
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: you know, working at work, Oh, how's going to be

739
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: in today?

740
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: Oh, voting on or they'revoting on what?

741
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: Then you know, I get older, are I have a

742
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: child and or my parents are dealing with medicaid and

743
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: Medicare and seeing that they're or electrical or utility prices

744
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 3: are going up or this and that. So you start

745
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: to pay attention. And like I said, I've been a

746
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: solutions solutions oriented type of person.

747
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: People need to pay attention like people.

748
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: One of the biggest things when people say I don't

749
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: do politics, well politics does your ass, and you better

750
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: pay attention because they're going to do it whether you

751
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: care or not. At least you can at least be

752
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: educated about what the hell is coming to you and

753
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: then try to fight back, which is what I call

754
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: my whatever I'm doing right now.

755
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Harry, last question I want to ask you before giving

756
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: you the Florida say whatever whatever it is you want

757
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: to say to to to conclude the evening with as

758
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: we as we come up on the hour. You've been

759
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: around a lot of members of Congress and seeing them

760
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 1: in in ways that most people won't won't ever get

761
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: a chance to see who who are some of the

762
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: good ones They that you've really enjoyed, you know, getting

763
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: to know that are just great people. Are the type

764
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: of person that you want in the Congress, Uh, that

765
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: that you've met over you were over your long career

766
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: up there on the hill.

767
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: Well, I'm very impartial to Jamie Raskin obviously with him

768
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: being my member of Congress. Lauren Underwood is a fantastic

769
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: woman of fantastic legislator from Illinois. She's fantastic. Dan Goldman,

770
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: It's just just people that actually Eric Swalwell is a

771
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: really good friend of mine. They take this stuff personal.

772
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: They're not in it for a paycheck. They are actually

773
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: people that believe in fighting. Those are just some of

774
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: the people that There are several others, obviously, But I

775
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: will tell you when you started to ask that question,

776
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: my mind immediately went to who are the.

777
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: Biggest assholes on Congress?

778
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 3: And the people that I thought of immediately was Ted

779
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: Cruz and Lindsay Graham they're the biggest pieces of shit,

780
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: and like outside of politics, they're just not even nice people.

781
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: Like a lot of times people would say, even Republicans

782
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: Mitch mcconnawell, thank you, officer, like fuck you, dude, But

783
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: then let he acknowledge it.

784
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: Ted Cruz would he wouldn't even look.

785
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: At Lindsay Graham is the most arrogant person running around

786
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: Capitol Hill.

787
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Case and I hate him, like he's a piece of shit.

788
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you another story.

789
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: I didn't A lot of people don't know, so I

790
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: don't think I've ever told it publicly before. But here

791
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: goes Mark Wayne Mullen from Oklahoma. I considered him a

792
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: nice person, a cool guy. Maybe it was a Republican

793
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: this is before Trump came along, or maybe it was

794
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: drum Trump come along, but we would joke and talk

795
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: about MMA and football or whatever. Shortly after January sixth,

796
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi implemented medal detectors at the going into the chamber.

797
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: Anybody has to go through the medicalp even members of Congress.

798
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: So as officer, this new to us, We're like, fuck,

799
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: we got to screen members because members you walk in

800
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: say I'm good, I'm a member, and you just go

801
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: bypass security whatever. That after January sixth. That was done

802
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: so to get into the chamber. All members that go

803
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: through a metal detector. They didn't like it one bit

804
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: at all, because we are you notice thieve.

805
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: Don't you hinder me. I am going to vote. You

806
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: can't stop me. This is about a.

807
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: Week a week, one week after January sixth, they're going

808
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: again to Mark Wayne Mullin. He beeps and the officers said, hey, sir,

809
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: you got to come back. Mark Wayne Mullin put his

810
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: hands on the officer and pushed the officer, I'm going

811
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: to vote. You can't stop me. It's against the law.

812
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: Keep your hands off of me, and went in. So

813
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: obviously every officer heard about it. You know, officers are

814
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: talking like yo, like damn, that's crazy. I'm sorry you

815
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: had to go through that. I heard about it, and

816
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: I lost my shit. I literally walked that moment to

817
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: Mark Wayne's office from the Capitol all the way to

818
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: the Rayburn building and I'm this is a three or

819
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 3: four days after January sixth, So we're already pissed, right,

820
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: Like I was ready to risk it all, like I

821
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: didn't give a fuck about consequences, none of that. So

822
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: I walk over to his office and I'm like, you

823
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: know the capitols from the Capitol, I walked the Rayburn

824
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: subway and I'm over there, and as I'm walking, I'm like,

825
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: what the fuck am I going to do? And I'm

826
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: like like, I'm thinking to myself what am I doing? Like,

827
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: am I going to like punch him? I can't what

828
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 3: am I doing? And I'm talking to myself, Harry, you're tripping,

829
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: but I can't stop. So I go in and knock

830
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: on I don't even knock when I open it, and

831
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: I like walk past the receptionist.

832
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: I look in this AF was like where is he where?

833
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: And I'm in uniform? Where is he?

834
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: Like, excuse me, he's he's not here. We and I

835
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: grabbed a post it and I said.

836
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: You called.

837
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: Tell him to call me when he gets this fucking message.

838
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: Well is everything? No, it's not okay, Tell them to

839
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: fucking call me. So I started walking back to the

840
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: Capitol and I'm like, I am in so much trouble,

841
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: like like I didn't like hide my identity, Like I'm

842
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: going to fucking lose my job right.

843
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: Five minutes back.

844
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: Walking towards the Capitol, Mark Wayne called me and he said, dude,

845
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 3: what the what's up?

846
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: Man?

847
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: What's going on? I was like, Yo, what you mean

848
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: was going? Why the fuck did you assault an officer?

849
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: You push the fucking cop? After all we just went through,

850
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: you got your you have the nerve to put your

851
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: hands on another office.

852
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: Dude? What the fuck is wrong with you? He said?

853
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: Who who who? Who?

854
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Who? Who?

855
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: Whoo? Listen.

856
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but listen, Nancy Pelosi. This ain't about Nancy Pelosi, dude.

857
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 3: This is about you assaulting an officer. And he's like, okay,

858
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: you know what, you know what, give me the officer's number.

859
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: I'll call him and I'm gonna talk to him. So

860
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: I said, all right, whatever, so I'll call you back.

861
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: So I called the officer. I said, yo, Mark, when

862
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: said he wants to talk to you, can I give

863
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: him your number? And the officer said, and this ship

864
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: was badass, He said, tell him if he wants to

865
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: talk to me. I'm in the same place he assaulted

866
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: me yet, So I called it back. I said, yo,

867
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: if you want to talk to him, you assaulted him.

868
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 3: And that's the last time we spoke.

869
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: I am genuinely shocked to hear you talk about Linkey

870
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: Graham as an answer, right, like I.

871
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: I have.

872
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: I have locked hundreds of thousands of air miles with

873
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham and John McCain right, and McCain would not

874
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: have tolerated Lindsey Graham acting like an asshole like that

875
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: because we just would not. McCain wouldn't have tolerated it.

876
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: His daughter filled up all the space. The But but

877
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 1: I I guess like he's changed, right, He's a he's

878
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: a you know, he's a I've always compared him to

879
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: a remorra, like one of the fish that hangs off

880
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: on the on the shark. And so I guess he's

881
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: assumed the personality right of of uh, you know, of

882
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: Trump right in mar Lago, so to speak, uh. Before

883
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: before I let you close it out, I'll just share

884
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: it John McCain's story. Now that we have Pastor Paula,

885
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: who's a religious nut speaking in tongues, you can go

886
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: and you find her on online. And these were some

887
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: of John McCain's least favor people, the hypocritical religious nuts.

888
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: And during the two thousand and eight campaign, we had

889
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: a meeting with a bunch of these after he had

890
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: won the primary, these evangelical types, and one of them

891
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: starts off the conversation saying, hey, you're not a Christian

892
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: and we're worried about that, and and do you pray?

893
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: And McCain you could tell he was getting really pissed

894
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: right just being in the room with them and everything,

895
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: and he kind of gripped a table and he goes, yeah,

896
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, I pray, He goes, there's been

897
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: moments in my life. He goes, I've had to pray

898
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: to make it through the next three fucking seconds. Go

899
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: fuck yourself. And he got up and he walked out

900
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: of the room.

901
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: And that's incredible, and that was that was John.

902
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: That is John McCain. And you know he would not

903
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: have he would not have tolerated the Lindsey Graham of today,

904
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been around him, wouldn't have been around him

905
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: at all. But Harry, uh, let me give it to

906
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: you to to to close it out tonight, and let

907
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: me just say before we wrap up, you are a

908
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: person that fits a very specific arc type in the

909
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: American story, which is almost providentially the country produces out

910
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: of its population patriots and heroes and calls them forward.

911
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: You know, a great example of this is Dwight Eisenhower

912
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: is a heading colonel in the army. You hasn't been

913
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: promoted in thirteen years, in nineteen thirty nine. And so

914
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: whatever it is you're going to do in the service

915
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: of your country, I think you're just getting started. You

916
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: have been through a crucible, you have been tested, you

917
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: have met the test, and you have answered the test.

918
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: And I think that as the country now enters a

919
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: period of testing, it's going to look on the people

920
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: that have been on the front of that test to

921
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: help guide them through. And you're one of those people now,

922
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: Officer done, and you will be for the rest of

923
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: your life a man who stood up when so many

924
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: laid down. So with that, I encourage everybody to follow you,

925
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: to support you in your endeavors. But Harry, what would

926
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: you like to leave with everybody tonight? And I know

927
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of people who are nervous, who

928
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: are scared, and at some level meet this moment by saying, Hey,

929
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn off and so help these people,

930
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: the two thousand and six hundred that are on with us, tonight,

931
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: give them the ammunition they need to talk to their

932
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: circle about why you need to be engaged, why you

933
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: need to stay involved, and anything else you want to say.

934
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: And with that, Harry's got the last word, and good

935
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: night for me, everybody. Good to see you again, and

936
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: thank you.

937
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you man, I appreciate it. Listen, like

938
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 3: you said, a lot of us are scared. A lot

939
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: of us are afraid. That is one hundred percent Baalid.

940
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: I would be lying to you if I said everything's

941
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: gonna be okay. I don't know if it is, but

942
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to continue to fight to

943
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: make sure I can do everything I can to make

944
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: sure it's going to be okay. Your concerns, your worries,

945
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: they are valid. Surround yourself with people that put you

946
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: at ease. Don't be afraid to disconnect for a moment.

947
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: This weekend.

948
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything anything political. I said, I'm going

949
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: to turn off, you know what, God willing, the country

950
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 3: will be here on Monday and I'll get back to work.

951
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: Don't be afraid to unplug some time for yourself.

952
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: Mental health is fucking real, man, and you have to

953
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: You have to tap in to people that support you

954
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: to fan your flames and everything. That's why it's so

955
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 3: good hearing you all right now reading these comments. I

956
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: wish that I wasn't looked upon at this face. I

957
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: don't want to be put on a pedestal. I love

958
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 3: drinking bourbon, I love cursing, I love talking shit with

959
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: my friends.

960
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: I speed, I.

961
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: Run red lights at times. I am not a fucking

962
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: perfect person at all at all, So I hate being

963
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: put on this pedestal. But if doing the right thing,

964
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: or doing leading, believing in your convictions and what you

965
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: believe is right, fighting for the little guy makes you

966
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: belong on a pedestal, then I guess I'll take it.

967
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't have all the answers I wish I did,

968
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: but one thing I do want to ask you all

969
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: as a favor, support the people that are out there

970
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: fighting for you. And I'm not talking about financially or

971
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: like that. Give them words, give them encouragement. Don't just

972
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: say you fucking excuse me, pussy, do something.

973
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: Sorry.

974
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: I know that word offends people, but I've seen it

975
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: people say do something, Give them words of encouragement. Your

976
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: elected officials that aren't doing enough, don't call and curse

977
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: them out, call and tell them what you want them

978
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: to do better, Because when you start.

979
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: Cursing out people, they tune out. They view you as

980
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 2: an enemy.

981
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: When there are they're trying to fight for. They might

982
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: not be doing it in the most effective way, but

983
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: lead on the people. Don't abandon the people that are.

984
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 2: Out there fighting for you.

985
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: Sure, everybody body's messaging may not be the same, and

986
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: people are scared, and people are don't know what This

987
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: is the most unprecedented time ever. There's no roadmap for this,

988
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: there's no what are we supposed to do? Everybody's got

989
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 3: a lot of opinions, but we shouldn't even be here

990
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: right now. Let's focus our anger at the people who

991
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: have us in this position, and let's support the people

992
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: who are trying to get us out of it. So

993
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: with that, I appreciate you. Thank you Steve for this platform,

994
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: thank you for the opportunity to talk. And yeah, I'm

995
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: not going anywhere, guys, I'm here.

996
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: Talk to y'all soon, Harry Gunn, great American. I'm Steve Schmidt.

997
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,880
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998
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999
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