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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. This is the start of our number two

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Speaker 2: here on the Drive and it is a mock draft

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Speaker 2: Friday logot. Yeah, let's get to it here. We talked

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Speaker 2: about the potential trade downs and the partners and we're

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Speaker 2: using the Pro Football Focus mock drafter today and well

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Speaker 2: we have some trade down offers. First twenty picks are in.

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Speaker 2: Some of the players still available, Malachi Starks, Luthor Burden,

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Speaker 2: Donovan Azerreku, Kenneth Grant, Calvin Banks, Walter Nolan, James Pierce,

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Speaker 2: Marion Hampton, Coleston Loveland, Gray's Abel, Derek Harmon, Kevin Winston,

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Speaker 2: Trey Amos. So there are some dudes.

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Speaker 3: I love the trade down with what's out there now. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's three defensive tackles we didn't even get into, like

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Speaker 3: Tyler Williams if you had to. Yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of targets like a love one that you mentioned. I

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Speaker 3: think teams would be interested in moving.

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Speaker 2: Up and come out to get him. Yeah, so the

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Speaker 2: Texans are on the phone with pick twenty five, the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are on the phone with pick thirty.

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Speaker 3: Let's just talk to them, becaulet's talk to them. That's

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Speaker 3: the first time I thought about them when you pull

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Speaker 3: them up. So they should take lovel if they moved up.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the fantasy, you would lose their mind.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So, let's see if they'll give us sixty three, thirty

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Speaker 2: one and sixty three for twenty one the offer, I

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Speaker 2: bet we get more. We're actually saying we can get more.

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Speaker 2: I would think you could to come up ten spots

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Speaker 2: in late second.

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Speaker 3: That's not enough.

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Speaker 2: I will throw in our pick to twenty nine because

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Speaker 2: we don't want that anyway. Yeah, but if they give

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Speaker 2: me one thirty three, you know, fifth or something or fourth,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying another four. And that says there's a fifty

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Speaker 2: four per chance that a fifty four percent chance that

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Speaker 2: will be accepted. So we would have thirty one, sixty three,

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Speaker 2: one thirty three. I'm all, I'm all over that for

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Speaker 2: twenty one and two twenty nine. Yeah, boom, they accept Okay.

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Speaker 2: It is a great trate. It puts us in a

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Speaker 2: great spot, and I could see Kansas City wanting to

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Speaker 2: do that as well, because I get that's extra.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious who they came up for. I don't live

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Speaker 3: proofo of aall focuses thinking the same way we are,

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Speaker 3: but Loveland would be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, they came up to get Kenneth Grant. Man,

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Speaker 2: I don't like that, but he'd be a good compliment

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Speaker 2: set as well. Oh I could too. Then Walter Nolan

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Speaker 2: went to the Chargers, Omari and Hampton went to Minnesota. Weird, okay,

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Speaker 2: Colston Loveland goes to Washington, and Nick Emuwari goes at

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Speaker 2: thirty to the Bills, leaving us with Harmon Derek Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Great, that's still worked out fine. Just when you said

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Speaker 3: Grant and Nolan went boom boom, I was like, ah, no,

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Speaker 3: we've rolled the dice.

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Speaker 2: And lost, But that worked out well.

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Speaker 3: I would strongly consider him at twenty one. I do

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Speaker 3: prefer Nolan, but I think I would take Harmon over Grant.

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Speaker 3: But I change every day.

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Speaker 2: We are allowed to change our minds on stuff. Ye. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right. So we are now up at pick sixty three.

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Speaker 2: Top players available Kevin Winston safety at a pay state,

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Speaker 2: Demetrius Knight, the linebacker aut of South Carolina, Carson Sweessinger,

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Speaker 2: the linebacker from UCLA. Dylan Sampson the running back from Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Elijah Rojo tight end from Miami. Jalen Royals, wide receiver

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Speaker 2: from Utah State. Andrew mccooba, safety from Texas. Darian Porter,

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Speaker 2: cornerback from Iowa State. Kyle Williams the wide receiver from

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Speaker 2: Washington State. They bumped him away up the port.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like people finally catching on. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ariante Ursery the tackle from Minnesota. Tate Rattledge to guard

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Speaker 2: from Georgia, Omar Norman Lott the defensive lineman from Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: Trey Harris, wide receiver Mississippi. R J. Harvey the running

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Speaker 2: back from UCF. I don't love what's there. Not done yet. CJ. West,

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Speaker 2: defensive lineman from Indiana. Alfred Collins, defensive lineman from Texas.

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Speaker 3: Be hard to pass.

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Speaker 2: I just want to take a look at the running

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Speaker 2: backs available here. Samson, Harvey, Martinez, Giddons. Who's in for

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Speaker 2: a visit today?

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Speaker 3: They got hit pretty hard.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback Jaln Milroe is still there.

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Speaker 3: I would go with Milroe over all. The above two

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Speaker 3: or Milroe.

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Speaker 2: Were porter the corner? Yeah, and Ursery.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a pretty darn good prospect at a

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Speaker 3: why I can't remember that we just brought them up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've only talked about him. Alfred Collins, a whole bunch,

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Speaker 2: brit Floyd, Shamar Turner still there, Vernon Brotton is still there.

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Speaker 2: Just want to take a look at the defensive tackles.

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Speaker 2: Josh Farmer, Jordan Phillips, Farmers still there. That's interesting, Dean

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Speaker 2: Walker and e s Peebles, Jamari Caldwell. So I think

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Speaker 2: you can in that situation maybe take the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Say mill Roe, after seeing the running back hit reasonably

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Speaker 3: hard they did, we might not get a guy that

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Speaker 3: we're super thrilled with at running back, and that might

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Speaker 3: Milroe might be the price for that. But it's a

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Speaker 3: little early for me to take Samson or Yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: at the end of round two here, but but I'll

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Speaker 3: take a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now we are up again at pick eighty three,

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Speaker 2: and the defensive tackles still there. Now are Jordan Phillips,

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Speaker 2: Diom Walker and Nis Peoples. Jumari Caldwell, JJ Pageese.

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Speaker 3: Coldwell or Phillips would be my favorite. They're different, but

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Speaker 3: they would be my top two.

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Speaker 2: There. Looking at running back, you've got R J. Harvey,

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Speaker 2: they were untouched Harvey, Martinez, Giddons, Devin Neil. I like

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Speaker 2: all four of those, but the top two would.

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Speaker 3: Be my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we pick again at one twenty three, so

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Speaker 2: we got forty picks in between here.

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Speaker 3: What do you feel more comfortable with doubling down at

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Speaker 3: the tackle or taking a running back? There were more

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Speaker 3: running back names to choose from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm looking for a guy who might be

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Speaker 2: in that starting rotation.

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Speaker 3: Shows us so that nose tackles fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true receiver Jalen Royals is still there. Kyle Williams

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Speaker 2: is still there, Jalen Noel was still there.

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Speaker 3: Those are all better value, I think than the nose

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Speaker 3: are running back.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback you're looking at Dorian Strong from Virginia Tech, Jacob

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Speaker 2: Parish from k State, No Williams from cal I don't

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Speaker 2: mind that group either, No, I mean I think the

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Speaker 2: biggest need is still defensive line need need. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean even though we have one, we got one,

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Speaker 2: but he's still not a nose DROs. I think he's

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Speaker 2: a Caldwell.

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Speaker 3: And Harmon's did room together.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Good buddies.

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Speaker 2: You like that?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's tell me coming all the way from Oregon.

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Speaker 3: But they're going to be friends and they're gonna get along.

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Speaker 3: Great bestie's forever forever. Yeah yeah, bff's Jamrii collboll it is.

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Speaker 3: That's a good pick. Now one of those receivers, corners

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Speaker 3: or running backs that we mentioned probably is there.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Williams is still there. Okay, I don't think you

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Speaker 2: should be, but that's somethings like the running back position

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Speaker 2: got hit pretty hard again. Jaden Blue, Trevor atn Jarquis Hunter,

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Speaker 2: Burchard Smith, kellel mullins, kyl mcgaunt, Manana Guy, Marcus Yarn's

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Speaker 2: Bachelle Tuton is still there.

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Speaker 3: Touton's my favorite of the group, But as a whole,

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Speaker 3: that group seems.

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Speaker 2: We get too. We got pick at one twenty three

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Speaker 2: and one thirty three. Now we got the extra one

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Speaker 2: thirty three because we dumped two twenty nine here, So

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Speaker 2: we got one twenty three one three.

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Speaker 3: What's a corner wide receiver situation or O line situation?

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Speaker 2: Cornerback? You're looking at No Williams still there? Cool? He

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Speaker 2: is a good player, solid, Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 2: some people are sleeping on him too. Wide receiver, as

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Speaker 2: I mentioned, he got Kyle Williams, Isaac Tesla, ty Felton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at offensive tackle, Brandon Crenshaw, Dixon, Logan Brown, Chase

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Speaker 2: lunt As, Johnny Cornelius, Emery.

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Speaker 3: Jones, like a lot of those guys too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just asked some questions about Brown. I was doing

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Speaker 2: some research on him, and he got kicked out of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right. He was a four or five car recruit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of one year as a starter, came

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Speaker 2: at Kansas. I ask there's some questions there. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: what do you think here?

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Speaker 3: I'd rather not take the running back here if we

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Speaker 3: have another picking ten picks, I think.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Williams, Kyle Walliams should not still be there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: should not still be there? Take him? Yeah, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: just a bonus pick that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the trade down.

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Speaker 2: I could have convinced myself. Of no, Williams there as well,

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Speaker 2: but let's see if he's still available.

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Speaker 3: He is not.

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Speaker 2: He get scooped up. So you're looking now at cornerback

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Speaker 2: Robert Longer Beam from Rutgers, Zia, Alexander from l s U,

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Speaker 2: Elijah Hussey from UH North Carolina, Quincy Riley from Louisville.

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Speaker 2: I like Riley a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Riley would be a good pick. We don't have

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Speaker 3: a back. I'd certainly like to have an offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: by now too.

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Speaker 2: I think the offensive lineman there was a little bit

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Speaker 2: more there. Yeah, there was a handful of decent names.

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Speaker 2: I think I want to take the running back.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Who's the best ones to pick from? It's Blue at

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Speaker 2: n Jarco's Hunter, Rishard Smith mcgonough guy uh Bachelle Touton

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Speaker 2: TOAJ Brooks is still there too.

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Speaker 3: I like Brooks a lot. He's not spectacular, but he's

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Speaker 3: really solid all around player. Tooton's the opposite where he

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Speaker 3: could bust or he could hit big. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure I get to go blue and be that small.

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Speaker 2: That's really small.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Toton's at least a two hundred and ten pounds.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he's a much bigger back. Newton would be

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Speaker 3: my choice. Like you take Tooton here, Yeah, that's fine. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: you get some velcrow and you velcrow football to his arms.

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Speaker 3: And this is where it's gonna go Warren and Gainwell

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Speaker 3: until he proves he can be trustworthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you all right. Now we're up

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Speaker 2: at one fifty six, and let's take a look at

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Speaker 2: that offensive tackle group. Well, it's still Logan, bron Emery Jones,

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Speaker 2: John Williams, Jack Nelson, Holland Pierce.

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Speaker 3: We've drafted a lot of those guys off Hi, but

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

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Speaker 2: I take Jones here. Yeah, I say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: he might be a guard, but I'm okay with that

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Speaker 2: starting guard. He might be your starting guard next ye yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he can get you out of a game

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Speaker 3: as a tackle. Yeah, and you do have Anderson a tackle, right, No,

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Speaker 3: I like Jones there.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Anderson signing re signing people, Oh that's

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Speaker 2: going to take him to Super Bowl. You don't understand

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Speaker 2: what they're trying to do here. Yeah, they're trying to

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Speaker 3: We took Williams though, Yeah we did, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we take them a lot.

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Speaker 3: I should say, Is there any more lineman worth considering

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Speaker 2: And take two running backs, just need one to hit, Okay,

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Speaker 3: You're yeah, me too. Your d line got a real

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we were talking for what did you

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Speaker 3: Didn't sacrifice our first round.

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Speaker 2: We tell you, not only did we not sacrifice an

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, no, that worked out very well. I would

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Speaker 2: I don't know that Milroe lasted sixty three, but there they.

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Speaker 2: So let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lelly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network and Matt and now will

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Speaker 2: be back with more right after.

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Speaker 1: This at least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt, as you mentioned, the Beast came out

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Speaker 2: this week. I check out and I've been reading through

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Speaker 2: about him playing Oh yeah, both ways in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Last season at Colorado, he played one five hundred and

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Speaker 3: There's more games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, plays about if you play every snap on defense,

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Speaker 2: me to like, fifteen hundred snaps offensively and defensively isn't

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Speaker 3: So I also don't think that it's apples to oranges

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Speaker 3: I mean, the quarterback could just say running out, run

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Speaker 3: I don't know how feasible it is. But if a

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Speaker 3: It can't just be like, don't do anything.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really curious how it works out. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: So he's not super clean medically in terms of his history. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know it was that much.

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Speaker 2: Whereas if you didn't put him out there in all

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Speaker 3: Probably not unless the lessons chances. Obviously, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great player.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he plays fifteen hundred snaps next year.

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Speaker 2: The most games he's played in his career is thirteen.

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Speaker 3: I understand the concerns. I understand all that it wouldn't hesitate.

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Speaker 3: Yeahs, ball skills.

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Speaker 3: what are your answers? And one of the questions was

434
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Speaker 3: what are you hearing about Sanders? And two of the

435
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Speaker 3: two of the analysts answered it with teams don't seem

436
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Speaker 3: to favor offense first defense that Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah,

437
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 3: you know, the teams at the top don't really have

438
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: a strong preference offense versus defense. They're just going to

439
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Speaker 3: figure it out when they get them.

440
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: Cool.

441
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: But I'll have more of.

442
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Speaker 2: A plan than that. I'm going to take ad overall

443
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: pick or a third overall pick.

444
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Speaker 3: I'm not just going to be like, we'll see how

445
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Speaker 3: it goes in it's here.

446
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to I'm not going to

447
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Speaker 2: have him works exclusively with the defensive backs for all

448
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: of mini camp. We're all through all of OTAs and

449
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: then say well we'll try it roder. Why don't you

450
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: see how it goes Yeah, wide receiver, you're gonna work

451
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 2: at that in because that's the other thing. It's not

452
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: just about playing the games. You got to practice the

453
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 2: preps and really important you're gonna you're gonna spend and

454
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 2: it's not like a college practice. You're gonna be on

455
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Speaker 2: the field for two hours every day. To your point,

456
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: you got to go to meetings, right. They spend an

457
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 2: entire day at the at the team facility job. Yeah,

458
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: it's a full time job. And there's a reason that

459
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: that they spend that whole day just working on one position.

460
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Speaker 3: Like I loan too too, so we always talk about

461
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: receivers have a tough time getting on a moving train,

462
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Speaker 3: you know, or Roman Wilson break back in because how

463
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Speaker 3: much time do I have to And now he might

464
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison it after practice and they might,

465
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Speaker 3: you know, work like crazy. Maybe I'm sure there'll be

466
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Speaker 3: some of that, but still it's hard. And I get

467
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: the impression in Colorado he was a d back first

468
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: and then because the receiver stuff was a lot of

469
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: screens and he's a really hard player on either side

470
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: of the ball to find negatives on. But he's not

471
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Speaker 3: a real developed route runner, you know, because he hasn't

472
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Speaker 3: run a lot. You know, they keep his roundy pretty simple, right.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, if you're going against Darel Reeves or Woodson,

474
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: you know, the underdeveloped routree and you only run four

475
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: or five routes, you're the disadvantage. They're going to figure

476
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, and watch tape on you

477
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: all week long while he doesn't do any of that stuff.

478
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, I would not hesitate to

479
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: make the risk, but it's just such a unique situation.

480
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Speaker 2: It really is. And somebody really when we talked about him,

481
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Speaker 2: I think last week, somebody brought up on the on

482
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Speaker 2: the in the messages board about well, Troy Brown did it.

483
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: Troy Brown was not. He did buy an emergency. It

484
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Speaker 2: his emergency situation. He was not a full time wide

485
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Speaker 2: receiver and defensive back. He wasn't great at either over

486
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Speaker 2: the course of a season. No. I mean when this

487
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: started coming up, I even went and looked.

488
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Speaker 3: I'm like, wonder how many catches Dion had in his

489
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Speaker 3: whole career?

490
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Speaker 2: Thirty six? Yeah, it wasn't that many, not as many

491
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Speaker 2: as you think.

492
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Speaker 3: Not close as many as you think. And they all

493
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: came in like one year he caught like twenty passes

494
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Speaker 3: one year. Other than that, the most you ever had

495
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: was like five in a season. It was all over

496
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: like a six year stretch. Like you're not drafting Hunter

497
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Speaker 3: to catch five passes a year. No, you know what

498
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: I mean. And you know, Dion's a little different. He

499
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: was a true corner and he played every snap a

500
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 3: corner and he was one of the best ever. But

501
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: I thought that right away, like people were talking about

502
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: Champ Bailey. I mean, did Bailey ever catch a pass

503
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: in the NFL? I don't remember running out.

504
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean Rob Woodson did it like a game here

505
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: and there, right right, just send him out there for

506
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: a couple of snaps and you know, just the what's

507
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: the defense going to do when we put Woodson out there?

508
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: You know that kind of stuff. But it's it's it's hard.

509
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: And you know, again I'm not knocking the kid at all. Yeah,

510
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 2: think he's a great player, but I think you do

511
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: have to have a plan and I don't, you know,

512
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I didn't understand, and that's is necessarily his injury. Like

513
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want him playing two thousand snaps.

514
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: I know.

515
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 3: And when I first got exposed to Hunter as a prospect,

516
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: very very early in the draft process, because I didn't

517
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Speaker 3: know anything. I mean, it was step one in my

518
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: draft pros. I said many times on the air, is

519
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: he the best receiver in this class? And no, but

520
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: we didn't have the answer to the point. Is he

521
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: the number one corner in this class? And back then

522
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: I didn't know. Now I know he is. I think

523
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: he's number one in both pretty clearly. So if I

524
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: only get one of the two positions, if that's my floor,

525
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm still taking them at two. Yeah, you know, if

526
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: I'm receiver only for the Browns. He would be my

527
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 3: pick if he said, I'm both degree, you're never playing

528
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: corner again. All right, I'll still take it too in

529
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 3: this case, but I wouldn't if Jamar Chase was in

530
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Speaker 3: the draft.

531
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Speaker 2: It's different. Yeah, right, right for an argument. Anyways, let's

532
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Speaker 2: get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, allie.

533
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534
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535
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539
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,960
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Speaker 2: a break. We'll be back with more right after this.

541
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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

545
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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and the Matt. This one caught my

546
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: eye today because Tennessee quarterback Nico i am Aliva skipped

547
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: the team's practice on Friday with their orange and white

548
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: spring game tomorrow Saturday, if you're listening this weekend, because

549
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: he is apparently in a contract dispute with the university.

550
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: Now when he signed with Volunteers Volunteer to join the volunteers.

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00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: They got a volunteer position.

552
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: By the way, no, it is not. They gave him

553
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: an eight million dollar an eight million dollar contract in

554
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: nil money I assume paid out over four years two

555
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: million dollars a year as a as a college freshman,

556
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: just to sign eighteen year old kid. Apparently he now

557
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: wants to renegotiate that deal.

558
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: That's taking another level. Man.

559
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: This is you know, we great this year prospect. Yeah,

560
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: but when we talk about how the college football game

561
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: has changed and why these guys might stay and score

562
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: might He's probably looking at what Carson Beck got from

563
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Miami and going, well, he got four million, and I'm

564
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: as good as him, were better than him, and I'm

565
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: signed up for two million. I want to renegotiate.

566
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Speaker 3: I'm very ignorant as to what the top guys are

567
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: making per year. Nil, I mean I assumed two million

568
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: was near the top of the list. Though to begin

569
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: with right.

570
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: Well again, it was an eight he was the number

571
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: two prospect nationally when he signed with Tennessee.

572
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: He's making as much as anybody, and he.

573
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: Got an eight million dollar NIL deal when they were

574
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: recruiting him in twenty twenty three when they brought him in.

575
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 3: The whole fact that he's renegotiating or holding out to

576
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: me is insanity.

577
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: Then really taking it to a new level. Yeah, but

578
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: do these kids have agents? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, there

579
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: are NIL agents out there that they get am advise on.

580
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: I was reading something about that the other night where

581
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: somebody they put it out on the ex Twitter that

582
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: there was a NIL agent who is getting fifteen percent

583
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: wow of whatever NFL agents right right? Yeah, And it's

584
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: just it's turned college football into a cesspool. Yeah, I mean,

585
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: like these guys are these guys are supposed to be students,

586
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: but now they're being they're paid students. And I get Hey,

587
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm not against the players being paid, but there's not

588
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: always thought they were short change. There's no guard rails

589
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: right now.

590
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: There's no guardrails and all the transferring is annoying enough.

591
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: But if we're gonna get holdouts now too, and why

592
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: not just have a minor league, you know.

593
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's essentially what college football has turned into. Right,

594
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: and you know, you get the money, then you're gonna

595
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: have a good team, and if you don't too bad.

596
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: And if you're a player, I mean, if if you

597
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: tell me as an eighteen year old, I'm gonna get

598
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: eight million dollars over the next four years. Right, I

599
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: don't care when I turn pro.

600
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

601
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm already a pro.

602
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: Oh you're already a pro. I mean again, You're gonna

603
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: have a nice car, you're gonna have a great apartment,

604
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: you have a lot of money in the bank, et cetera.

605
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know nearly as much about college hoops,

606
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: but I found it pretty interesting that the final four

607
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: was all the one seeds. Is that because they're the

608
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: wealthiest schools? Now too? In hoops?

609
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if you looked at it, it was just

610
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: gonna be a regular somebody to put out the chart

611
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: before the I think it was before the Sweet sixteen

612
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: of all the starters from all the Sweet sixteen teams

613
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: and where they began their career at. And if you

614
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: looked at that chart other than Duke and Michigan State,

615
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: you would not have known what team was which, which

616
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: team was which based on just looking at where because

617
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: they had the logos there for each one of those guys.

618
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: I think Michigan State had three or four of.

619
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Speaker 3: Their guys originally.

620
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: Duke was the same way, and everybody else was just

621
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Speaker 2: all over the place, and a lot of them didn't

622
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Speaker 2: even have a guy who had started their career at

623
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Speaker 2: the school that they were at, like all five starters were,

624
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: some of them had been brought in.

625
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Speaker 3: So my point is we're just going to see a

626
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: lot fewer upsets, a lot more Cindrell stories, a lot

627
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: more favorites just playing each other year after year.

628
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: Mid majors are like Redshaw donkeys. You may get lucky,

629
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: but the luck is going to involve, you know, having

630
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: a good player who emerges late in his career. It's

631
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: not going to be well, you know, if he's you know,

632
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: look at Robert Morris. Robert Morris almost beats Alabama in

633
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: the first round of the tournament. They were leading out

634
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: all of Bama, like like less than ten minutes left

635
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: to play, lose the game. The whole starting five basically

636
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: is gone.

637
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: That was their one shot.

638
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: They could have had them all back this year because

639
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: they all still had eligibility.

640
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: But on the door, right, I mean, are gonna scoop

641
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: them up, guys get paid.

642
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't blame any kids for doing it,

643
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: nor do I. But I just had to.

644
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: Hit the perfect That's as good as it can get

645
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: for Robert Morris, right, I mean the five.

646
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: The same reason San Francis, which also made that. They

647
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: were in a playing game this year in Loretto. They said,

648
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: you know what, we can't compete at this level anymore.

649
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna drop the D three. We're done.

650
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: Just don't have the money. I can't. Yeah, it's just

651
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: not a fun anymore. Yeah, it almost feels like baseball too,

652
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: where Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers.

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00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: That's what it's going to turn into.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome every year and maybe once in

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Speaker 3: a while other team puts it all together and it

656
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: all happened.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think guys like

658
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: Nick Saban and some of these other high profile wach

659
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: is retired.

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got money, I got my legacy. I don't

663
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: want to deal with this. I don't I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really, I'm not sure who does.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think they just need to be more guardrails.

667
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: The the the n C DOAA Basketball Transfer Portal opened

668
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: while the tournament was still being played. You had guys

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Speaker 2: announcing they were entering the portal whose teams were still

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Speaker 2: playing in the tournament.

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Speaker 3: He's aren't even eliminated teams?

672
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Speaker 2: Or what are we doing?

673
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: It didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that happening in the NFL. Yeah, playoffs starting, free

675
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: agency opens up.

676
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Wats contracts up and they're playing in

677
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: Kansas City in the AFC Championship game and he's negotiating

678
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: a deal with the Eagles.

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00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: It's insane. I mean, that's like, it's insane.

680
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: It's so wrong.

681
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane. Just and this this story just I mean, you.

682
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: Got to get to take in one more level. Yeah,

683
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: and then next year we'll have two more levels. You know.

684
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Here's why when we talk about you don't know who's

685
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: going to be in the draft each year until they're

686
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: completely out of eligibility. Then I know they're going to

687
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: be in the draft. Maybe maybe they've got enough money,

688
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: they don't love the game, they just say I'm done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they could do that too, you know, like a

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00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: yours or something like that. It's not gonna be a

691
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Speaker 3: super high pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go. I've got eight million dollars in

693
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: the bank. Over the course of my college career, I'm good.

694
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll be a high school coach or do nothing,

695
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: or sit on a bench or do whatever I want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I do think particularly quarterbacks are starting to come

697
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: to the league more mature. Yeah, that part's good. I

698
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: mean that goes back to parcels though, when guys couldn't

699
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: leave early. Really, you know, let's give me every start

700
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: I can. That part's good sometimes in multiple systems. And

701
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: I also think there's something to be said for leaving

702
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: Auburn going to Oregon. I'm just pulling bow NeXT's name

703
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: out and adjusting quickly to a new environment. We're this year,

704
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: and that means he adjusted to the Broncos quickly, you know, like,

705
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: can you adjust to a new environment quickly? Okay, you

706
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: showed me a good Yeah. It makes me think you

707
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: your rookie year might be bat I'm just through an

708
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: NFL lens. I could see some benefits.

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00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: There's some benefits. There are some drawbacks, you know, you

710
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: talk about some of the overage guys. Yeah, you're not

711
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: going to get as many. You know, you're not going

712
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: to get three contract guys. Maybe you get two. So

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Speaker 2: it's the part I hate is just the pits of

714
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: the world. Do they have a chance, you know what

715
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: I mean? That's secondary. I just look at this through

716
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: the lens of what this means for the overall picture,

717
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: and the overall picture isn't pretty.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, I agree. I don't like any of it,

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Speaker 3: especially if I was a college fan.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you can't. You can't tell me that

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00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: teams aren't contacting guys while they're still playing before they

722
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: go into the transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean you could ask the college coach or

724
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: it's an easy way to get in touch with them.

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00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Like our buddy Wes Uler that lives and dies WU

727
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: does he look at it like we'll never compete with

728
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: the big dogs. I mean, we'll be okay, we'll win

729
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: some games, but we have no chance, no chance. If

730
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: we line up everything perfect, we're not going to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, West Virginia's best football team that you know,

732
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Speaker 2: Pat White's not staying at West Virginia's entire crew, right,

733
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Speaker 2: They would all have to have Slaton's staying there, you know,

734
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: of course not somebody else is coming in to scoop

735
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: them up.

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Speaker 3: Anyways.

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Speaker 2: That's our little rant about that. It is, but that's

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Speaker 2: going to do it for today's show. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: on Monday. For my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller

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Speaker 2: here on site running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard,

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Speaker 2: and for Tyler Vittmeyer making sure our video gets out

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Speaker 2: there on the YouTube. Give us a thumbs up on there.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.