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David Hellman, draft officiano from Dallas 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.639 Cowboys dot Com aficionado ficionado. There you go, I did 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:00.840 on purpose, so you just correct me. I did so, yeah, 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.080 there you go. We welcome everybody again, like I say, 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.240 to the Draft Show. Kate Garrison, executive producer of the show. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:13.040 Uh found something interesting yesterday? Well let me before I 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.840 get to that. We'll get to We got thirty visits, yes, 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.840 Dallas thirty visits. Get Dallas day. Yeah, busy week here 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.800 Valley as we speak, Dallas Day. Yeah. Out there at 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.039 at and T Stadium. I'll get into one of the 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.200 thirty visits. What we're talking about. Names are pretty much 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.119 out there, so we'll go through a few of those names. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.760 Dallas Day not so much, but we'll speculate on maybe 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.480 a guy or two found something really interesting. Yesterday, Eric 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.400 da Costa talking about mock drafts. You see that, by 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.160 any chance I didn't, Eric da Costa, who's the player 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:49.200 personnel guy for the Baltimore Raven GM and waiting, GM 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.800 and waiting. He keeps turning down jobs, waiting for Ozzie 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.400 to go away, and Ozzie's not going to go away 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.120 anytime soon. I don't think Ozzie's a great man. By 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.320 the way, Erica Costa talking about mock drafts, saying that 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.280 he goes through all of them, he studies all the 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.640 mock drafts. He's interesting and I just kind of wonder 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.040 as we get closer to this and we've started doing 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.120 some of our own mock drafts at Dallas Cowboys dot Com, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.520 you've done quite a few. Every Monday, I believe you 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.160 say you do a mock drafts. Dave hasn't a story 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.799 going up every week about mock drafts. True. Is it 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:27.160 funny to hear an executive of a team that drafts 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.320 very well or has a history of drafting very well, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.440 talk about how much they pour into mock drafts, how 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.680 much they study them, how much they care about the opinion. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.480 My I've always was one of those guys. It was like, 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.079 you know, okay, you know, maybe the first one, maybe 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.480 the last one, everything in between. I wasn't so much 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:53.240 caring about. Yeah. And it's interesting because and I talked 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.240 to you know, my buddies in the league. Yeah, they 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.280 tell me all the time, like, oh yeah, we look 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.880 at probably five or six mock drafts. People we trust, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:02.840 you know, you being one of them. And you know, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.600 there's certain people around the league that have a feel 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.880 for it. But they understand that, you know, they know 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.840 what they're talking about. They talk to people, they know 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.760 where these teams are kind of leaning, and so, you know, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.080 I think it helps them prepare who's going to go 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.080 in the top five, you know, where where does the 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.960 general public feeling on where this guy is going to go? 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.680 And it helps them prepare for you know, who could 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.480 be available for them, who's not. It's not like they 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.520 take this as gospel or they use mock draft to 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.560 help them determine who they're going to take, but it 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.960 helps them prepare in terms of, you know, where certain 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.160 people are leaning towards a certain player, going yeah, Eric, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.280 I thought it was interesting though, I mean, he admitted it. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.880 Maybe he's like, you know why he goes I pour 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.000 through those Maybe the Ravens are such good drafters because 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.280 they'd leave no stone unturned, you know. I mean that's fair. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.640 I mean, you know it makes sense to me. Sure 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.280 you don't take it as gospel, but if the Ravens 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.440 are picking six, like, how much time do they really 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.480 have to or care about what the cowboys need or think? 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.520 You know, well, that's what their pro guys are doing 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.360 though well, and but the pro guys are the pro 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.400 guys should be on top of what the rave what 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.920 the cowboys. I get that, but I mean every resource helps, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.120 you know, especially I'm not busting on it. I'm just 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.599 saying I found it, really did it did a did 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.719 A club executive would stand up there in front of 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.679 the media and say, hey, I enjoy reading the mock draft, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.200 And honestly, I get dejected some Sunday nights when I'm 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.640 sitting there like you know, I have to do a 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.240 mock draft another one, and because you get beat down 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.880 by the fact that the fans think that you're against 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.640 their team. Well, I think it's just not a lot 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.920 changes for me, you know, doing one every single week. 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.560 It's like, you know, I feel thank God the fact 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.599 that Dane does it. I have a newfound respect for 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.599 that because I had to do one for our draft 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.560 preview that's coming out next week, and I wanted to 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.280 tear my hair out. It's awful. Like it's hard enough 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:57.960 trying to figure out what you think the Cowboys are 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.920 gonna do, but then you're like, all right, well if 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.480 they do this, and that means that this and this 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.560 guy's gonna fall wait all of a sudden, like I've 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.160 got Joey Bosa at twelve. Yeah the guy. Yeah, that's 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.000 the worst. But when I think about that, how I 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.040 know for a fact certain teams that look at my 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.880 mock draft. That's when I'm like, okay, you know what, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:17.920 you know, I need to put a lot of focus 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.839 on this and make sure it's the best I could 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.960 possibly make it. So the fact that I know is 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.839 that some NFL teams look at these mock drafts that 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.640 gives me all the motivation I need to make sure. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.720 You know, I put everything I have into a mock 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.520 draft every week. Yeah, you give it some thought, and yeah, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.000 not just because okay I had this is the best 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.760 defensive tackle here, I had the best defensive end, or 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.040 had the best running back. You try and give it 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.160 to some thought where some team needs and stuff like that. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.880 Maybe even focusing on what's going on at free agency. Well, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.159 that's the thing everything free free agency, it is just 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.479 for fun. It's just you know, looking at possibilities. Really, 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.000 a mock draft before free agency doesn't make much sense 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.560 after free agency. Start doing these mocks. You know, now 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.800 we're less than three weeks away from the draft. All 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.560 of a sudden, these mock drafts a lot more serious. 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.839 You know, you have a better, much better idea, um, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.040 but they're tough because it's a domino effect, you know. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.000 And you know, one surprise move in the top five 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.159 could throw off the rust of your entire mock draft. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.920 So even not taking a quarterback, absolutely, yeah, that would 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.400 be a total curveball day change. That is that the 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.360 point in the draft where this and it's funny to 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.560 say this though, but at the second pick, this draft 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:28.520 can go a whole nother direction. It's really the quarterbacks. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.680 The quarterbacks every year kind of change things, and it'll 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.000 be the same this year. Will we see a quarterback 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.440 at two? And then if we okay, say we say 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.440 Curson Wentz at two, where's Jared goff end up San 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:44.560 Francisco at seven? Philadelphia? A? Yeah, exactly. He can't rule 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.480 anything out. I mean, could he followed to fifteen with 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.960 the Rams? Maybe? Will we see some trades, you know, 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.880 with the A team looking to get that quarterback? Do 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.000 you guys think there'll just be one move going up? 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.000 Do you think there'll just be one big move somebody 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.800 making a Tommy Dimitroff in Atlanta made a Zi moved 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.679 to Cleveland spot? You know, do you do you see 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.680 somebody making a move like that and only making one 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.880 of them? Who? Who knows? Man? And it probably depends 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.040 on I mean, everybody's sitting here thinking the quarterback that 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.960 they want's not going to be there after two, and 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.760 then all of a sudden he is, yeah, and we 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.840 already kind of think the Chargers don't want to make 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.120 that pick. Who the hell knows what happened? Better chance 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.480 of going up for a quarterback or if Tunsil were 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.200 to slide. I think I'm always going to say quarterback 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.680 because it's such an important posis. Has anybody mocked Tounsel 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.600 out of the top four? No, not, not that I've 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.000 ever seen. It's hard to see him. I mean, he's 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.360 the best player in this draft, so it's hard to 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.560 see him getting past Tennessee. And then seeing about the 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.000 Williams kid though from the Jets, we kind of thought 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.680 the same thing, right, you're absolutely right. Yeah, he fell 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.920 out a six last year and I never would have 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.720 thought he would have fallen to that point. But I 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.280 think the teams in the top five last year were 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.320 so programmed to think Leonard Williams is probably going to 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.200 be gone that maybe through the mocks. Yeah, well that's 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.600 part of that fascinating Yeah. Oakland at four, Yeah, we all, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.120 that's Amara Cooper, you know, that's that's who. Yeah, Williams, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.680 could he be there maybe, but probably not. So you know, 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.240 Cooper's our guy, that's who we're taking. The Redskins at five, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.280 Brandon Sheriff, same type of thing, you know, And they 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.320 didn't deviate from their plan. They stuck with it. And 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.520 then the Jets end up getting a steal it's number six, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.120 but could that happen this year? This is why the 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.800 draft's amazing. You know, you can't rule anything out all 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.640 these possibilities. What do the Cowboys need to prepare for 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.360 it for? What do they what do they need to 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.640 really prepare for? Since we're talking about it, we'll spockle, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.960 but I mean we'll do like the week about some 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.440 hypothetically Yeah, the week of the week of the draft. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.440 My plan here for the show is to go in 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.480 and do that mock that we've talked about with all 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.320 our information in front of us day. We're gonna run it. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.000 We're gonna simulate it, We're gonna have some trade possibilities, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.920 we're gonna see who's on the board that I want 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.240 to do. The week of the draft, we're gonna have 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.080 a looks like we're gonna have two or three days 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.240 before the draft to do some shows. So that's when 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.320 my plan is to kind of put our mock draft 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.800 together as well. I think there's two scenarios that they 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.760 should be wise to prepare for. One would be that 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.839 a quarterback that they really liked that they assume is 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.439 going to Cleveland is there at four, he doesn't get 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.840 picked by the Browns for whatever. Maybe the Browns pick 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.040 wins instead of golf, or golf instead of wins, or 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.000 they don't pick a quarterback at all. So only as 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.760 something real quick. Any possibility that the first pick gets traded. Absolutely, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.559 when you talk about you know, ed right before we 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.520 came on the show that Philadelphia at Tennessee, well, and 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.719 Tennessee's apparently saying there's been an uptick and interest in 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.640 that pick in the last you know, we might be saying, yeah, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.760 the water. I think there's a chance, but I still 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.760 would be pretty surprised if just because the cost, I mean, Tennessee, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.959 could they take a discount maybe to move back? Yeah, 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.120 but you know, good Philadelphia, they don't have a second 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.800 round pick, so you know, would they yeahb without if 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.400 you're if you're if you're the new gym in Tennessee, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.559 does it look pretty shiny if somebody gives you next 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.080 year's one. Well, if someone gives up next year's one, 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.120 then absolutely, But is there a team willing to give 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.880 up next year's one for Carson Wentz? I don't know. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.200 We might find that, okay, but you're saying, don't be 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.720 prepared for that. I don't. I don't think we'll see 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.920 a trade at number one. I don't. There's a possibility, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.319 but I think Tennessee is saying the exact right things 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.319 they should be saying. Right Cleveland or Cleveland or San 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.080 Diego going to be a bailer. I think both would 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.360 love to be. I would say San Diego more so 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.480 than Cleveland on it. I mean, even though I'm saying this, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.920 I just think it's it's too obvious that Cleveland needs 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.679 to draft a quarterback for me to believe they're not 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.840 going to do it. That's just my opinion, though. Yeah, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.240 I mean I think both are trying to get out. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.040 I think everyone in the top five this year are 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.480 trying to get out. You know, they they're open for business. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.120 Make us a deal. I think some teams would be 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.240 willing to take it. If two and three both are 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.960 willing to move, then maybe the price is going up. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.720 There won't be next year's one. It might not, depending 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.680 on what I'll take a jump. You're making it probably, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.280 and it probably depends on who's you know, who's making 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.160 the deal. I mean, Saint Louis has the capital to 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.199 get up there, probably without giving away next year's one, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.599 whereas the Eagles do not. Well, that's why you know 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.720 we have the trade valued chart, and I honestly I 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.280 don't put any credence in that when we're talking about 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.360 top ten trades, because I think every top ten's different. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.520 This year's top ten is different than last year's top ten, 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.439 So I'm going to past history. Then you could try 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.000 and hold them up like the Rams held up the Redskins. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.800 I think when you have a pick like that, be it. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.280 I mean, anybody in the top five, Dallas included, When 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.079 you have a pick like that, you set the terms. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.959 I mean, if they want to get up there, well, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.520 I think that's both extremes, you know what with the 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.480 Rams and Redskins, what they did, I think that was 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.400 one extreme, and then this year we could see the 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.560 other extreme where it's maybe the Titan Station give away. Yeah, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.360 maybe a little bit of discount to move back and 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.560 you know, pick up an extra second rounder just because 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.320 they're not in love with Tunsel or anyone at the top. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.400 And John Robinson he wants picks, he wants yeah, yeah, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.560 and you know, bringing this thing, you know, full circle. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.360 We started the conversation with with mock drafts, right, That's 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.880 what that's why these teams look at mock drafts is 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.240 because the drafts all about being prepared. In the top ten, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.439 you have to be prepared for X Y Z scenarios. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.240 You know, if this guys here, this guy's gone, a trade, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.160 all of a sudden, a trade happens. You can't be 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.199 caught off guard a general manager, you're a key decision 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.280 maker in a war room. If you're caught off guard, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.760 you're going to make mistakes in the war room. You're 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.320 going to you know, panic, and that's what you can't 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.080 afford to happen when you have ten minutes on the clock. Yeah, 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:22.120 I'm very fascinated by what because I think the draft 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.400 can go a whole nother direction with that second pick. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.719 And it's funny. The other thing I was going to 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.480 say is, you know, I feel like we spend so 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.240 much time talking about the possibility that the Cowboys are 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.120 going to be wiped out. You know, I mean, Tonsil goes, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.720 Ramsey's a top three pick, a quarterback they like is gone. 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.560 They don't love Bosa. A lot of people don't love Bosa. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.040 Miles Jack's knees kind of iffy. We talked about all this. Well, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.400 there's so much uncertainty right now in the top four. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.120 But that's the funny thing to me, is like the 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.160 thing that would actually be unexpected is if they don't 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:51.880 get wiped out, Like what if a guy they really 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.040 love just kind of falls in their lap. See, I'm 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.920 kind of expecting that. I'm expecting something as good as well. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.760 I'm expecting if somebody goes dancing up, been there and 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.199 throws this thing off, there could be somebody that they 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.640 really really like. Speaking of guys they really really like, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:11.320 let's get into these thirty visits quick. Any surprises if 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.480 I say they brought in Ezekiel Elliott, No, none, none, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.319 that's that's expected. Um, obviously he's he should be on 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.120 the short list, whether they stay at four or you know, 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.520 say they trade back a few spots. I mean, Zeke 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.000 is besides Laramy Tunsel, he's the best offensive player in 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:34.000 the draft, and he's surprised they brought in Jacoby Brissette. No. No, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.000 And I think you know, going by some of the 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.760 quarterbacks they're bringing in, Um, you know they're bringing different 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.800 quarterbacks at different levels of the draft, you know, So yeah, 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.400 would you be surprised if they come out of this 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.200 draft without drafting a quarterback. Oh, I'd be shocked, because 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.120 they use six They've they've allocated six of the thirty 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.959 visits they I think they were short. Two guys think 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.400 they were twenty eight visits. Even if Dallas finds a 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.920 way to acquire a veteran back between now and Charlie, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.320 they're still gonna drat get Ready. It's killing Moore well. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.200 And that's why you know, you don't just bring in 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.080 the first and second round guys. They're bringing in some 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.679 you know, Jacoby Brissette, who, Yeah, if you want to 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.640 if you're gonna draft him, it's probably fourth or fifth round. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.600 I gave him a sixth round grade. But if you're 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.160 gonna draft, it's probably fourth or fifth early day three. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.760 So not too much of a surprise. You know. Obviously 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.600 they had a chance to see him at the Senior Bowl, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.920 and uh, you know, I don't know. I have a 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.320 lot of questions that Jacoby Brissett. I think from better options, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.040 but I understand why a team would like him. An 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.360 he's surprised that they brought in C. J. Prosise. No, 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.000 I mean, he's he's a top five back. We've talked 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.840 about it. I'm at so far. So far you've mentioned 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:47.320 good players or interesting players at positions of need. So no, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.560 none of the surprises. Where would you take prosise thing? 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.880 Fourth round? I think depending on what the board looks 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.200 like in the third round, maybe I'm considering them third 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.640 round sixty seven, depending on what the board says. I mean, 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.360 last year, you know, you could they have taken a 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.720 running back. There was a run on running backs, remember that. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.840 And if Randy Gregory is not there, maybe right there. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.200 So it depends on what the board looks like. Obviously, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.360 I mean you had you had your top ten guys 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.320 here that there were some serious top five prospects here 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.280 this week, But a lot of the guys on that 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.400 list are kind of in that sixty seven to one 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.840 thirty five middle of the draft type of dudes. Any 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:29.160 surprise they brought in Vernon Hargraves. That one does surprise 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.240 me a little bit. Yeah, you're thinking there, what you're thinking? 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.000 I hope he's not a target at four. I mean, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:36.880 I don't think he's a tough four player in this draft. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.960 This is they don't like, they don't probably don't care 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.040 what you and I think no, they definitely don't. Yeah, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.160 that's why I said, I hope yeah. But this is 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.240 what we talked about last week though. I mean they 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.040 brought Lakwan Treadwell in two. That doesn't mean that they 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.400 like him at four. That means they're doing their homework. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.360 And if if s hits the fan, like we were 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.760 just talking about, maybe all of a sudden, you wind 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.560 up at nine. You know, you got your eyes on 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.680 some guy who can who can do some work for you, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.920 harder Eaves being one of them. Interesting they brought in 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.480 Carson Wentz. I mean this is a player that they've 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.520 had a chance to coach. I mean they've done a 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.240 lot of work on with with Carson. You know what 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:14.880 don't they know about him that they needed to bring 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.200 him in? I mean, you know, every little bit helps, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:18.600 you know, you get to know them more and more 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.320 and more. A lot of people, a lot of people 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.720 are connecting dots there that Carson Wentz is gonna be 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.320 a pick here. Uh. We had a chance to interview 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.760 Carson Wentz this week. Who else do we get to interview? 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.360 By the way, have to interview Carson Wentzon DeForrest Buckner, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.560 which they make I'm I'm gonna put on my cynic 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.160 hat for a second. Please do The fact that we 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:43.400 got clearance from the brass to I love you today. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.600 I usually do, but I love you today. It makes 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.360 me wonder what their intention is. Yeah, if they were 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.320 gonna if we got to talk to who do we 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.200 get to talk to Carson Wentzon DeForrest Buckner before defensive 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.120 end and a quarterback that we don't necessarily know is 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:01.280 even gonna be there? Yeah, yeah, I mean that doesn't 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.840 necessarily mean anything. But what does it mean? It means, 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.359 I mean it means to me as a cynic, it 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.959 says that they're not particularly convinced that they'll be drafting 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.160 neither one of those guys. But I could be reading 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.399 too much into it. Yeah, Karl Joseph also took a 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.560 visit here. Guys. Yeah, he's gonna be a busy guy. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.320 He's making a lot of different travels around the country. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.240 A lot of people interested in Karl Joseph, And I understand, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.959 you know, this is a not a great safety class 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.359 and a player like Karl Joseph where you watch the 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.920 highlights and you're watching Earl Thomas, You're watching a guy 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.479 that flies around the field. The anticipation doesn't miss. I mean, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.040 Earl Thomas doesn't miss as much as this though. And 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.600 that's the thing. When you the highlights are old Thomas, yea, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.000 when you factor in the full body of work. That's 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.280 why I gave him a second third round grade. But 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.399 if you're if you want Karl Joseph, you have to 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.280 take him at thirty four. If you're the Cowboys. Kenny 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.239 Clark use Cla took a visit here, a great technique here. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.240 I like him. One of the youngest players in this draft, 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.000 doesn't turn twenty one until the fall, so and he's 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.359 he's an ascending player. I think he's going to continue 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.320 to get at four. You gotta take him at thirty 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.520 four if he's even still there. I've seen him mocked 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.439 in the first round a couple of times, Carolina Denver, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.560 So you're maybe talking about trading back again. Well, this 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.800 goes back to what we talked about after they signed 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.280 Cedric Thornton, though, Are they really going to invest that 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.520 high of a pick in a position that has two 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.960 highly paid they see him as a three technique? Sure, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.240 I mean, you'd have a pretty hilacious rotation if you 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:33.280 had Cedric Thornton, Tyrone Crawford and really any of those 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.720 guys that you could get at thirty four, Clark, Billings, Johnson, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.159 you name it. I'm forgetting one. But it's okay. No 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:45.040 visits from Spence or from Miles Jack. Yep. Yeah, the 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.520 Jack's interesting. That is very interesting. Obviously with Miles Jack. 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.720 The scouting's done. He's a top five pick. Yeah, it's 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.040 the medicals that we're just waiting waiting on that. And 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.720 they got two visits left too. It might be a 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.480 scramble him in, you know, kind of a deal usually 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.800 leave you Oh, absolutely, he might. Yeah, you might scramble 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.960 some guys in that, you know, the week before the 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.919 draft and they're gonna have I assume they'll have somebody 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.919 an indie for the recheck. Oh they will, So the 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.720 medical staff will be the doctor. Maybe. Yeah, it's another 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.720 chance to yeah, to catch catch a minute with him. 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.600