1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Don't listening. No, Fox Sports Radio. Hey, it's all about winning. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: That's coming right up. Welcome everybody. This is Fox Sports 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Sonny on Fox Sports Ready. He is Jeff Schwartz. I'm 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Andy Furman, and we all broadcasting life from the ti 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: i rack dot com studios ti irac dot com. We'll 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: help you get there, and I'm match selection, fast free shipping, 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: free road has a protection and over ten thousand recommended 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: installssti iraq dot com the way tyre bying should be here. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: He is the pro himself, my friend, the one and 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: only Jeff Schwartz. Hello, Jeff, how are you? 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 2: Good morning? I am doing fantastic. My Lakers took care 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: of business last night. It was a rough first quarter, 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: but we're back baby, up to one. I love it. 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: It was a it was a good spring, good weekend 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: so far. Devil Derby action last night. Yeah, you know 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: the Derby. I don't know of a sporting that where 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: you wait like so long and then it's just like 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: it's just done. Okay. Oh well, huh the horses ran cool, 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: all right? Everyone back to back to scheduled life. But uh, 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: those majestic beasts were rumbling down the track. Yesterday. 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: I do want to say one thing before we get 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: rocking and rolling here? Did you hear the wonderful update 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: at the top of the hour with the golden tones 24 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: of Brian Fenley joins us? He joins us today and 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: we're honored to have Brian Finley here. 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: The red sauce put the white sox in the chipper. 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: Wooer the wood chipper. 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the woodchipper. We love it. 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: Usually, usually any your reds are going into the woodschipper. 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: But the actually one, which was a total surprise to everyone. 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: The Reds are the wood chipper. Really, I know that's 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: why you did it. It's okay, you're making me feel good, 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: but that's you're setting me up for something. And I'll 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: wait for that. But you go back to the derby 35 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: for a second. I mean, no, one hundred and fifty 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: thousand people there, I go. I've been to the derby 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: several times. I live in Kentucky. It's like an event, 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: it's like it's a religion. Really, but seven horses have 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: died at Churchill Down since the twenty seventh of April, 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, what happens out of the 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: woolwork comes Peter, they say they should cancel a Derby 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: shut down, Churchill downs. Those horses are treated fairly well, 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: they really are. They eat well, they're trained well. I 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: think it was a track situation, maybe the surface of 45 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: the track. I don't really know exactly. I don't think 46 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: anybody else does exactly what happened yet, but it was 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: a shame that it happened prior to the biggest day 48 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: really besides the British Cup of Thoroughbred Racing. 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and two were unfortunately euthanized yesterday right after two 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: earlier races. Because there's know, there's twelve races yesterday at 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: at the track, and the one that we watch at 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: seven o'clock eastern is the final one of the day. 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: That's the race twelve. There's there's there's again, there's twelve 54 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: races the entire day. The thing that has always surprised 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: me about about the the unfortunate situation where where the 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: horses pass away is like, we have all this technology 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: in medicine and in sports and obviously the combination of 58 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: both now and there's no way for the horse to 59 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: let after they break it, after they break a leg, 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: like they're just like we don't have any technology now 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: for a horse to it might sound, this might sound 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: very not anything to say. I don't follow horse racing 63 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 2: and don't follow horses. I grew up in Los Angeles, 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: I live in the middle of city. Now I've been 65 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: on one horse my entire life. I'm too fat to 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: be in a horse. I don't know any about horses. 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: But like we don't have the technology medical technology to 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: like horses can live after they break their legs. I 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: just that Andy has been the most surprising me. Not 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 2: that the horses have to be put down. I get 71 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: the reasoning behind it, but like they can't live with 72 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: a broken leg. 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: You can't put as on them, and you hit it 74 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: right on the head. Because look, I worked the various racetracks, 75 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: but believe me, I'm not a vet. I don't know 76 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the inner workings of a horse. I was the pr 77 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: guy of various tracks. But I do know that the 78 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: most important part of a horse is its legs, and 79 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: if he can't have his legs functioning, they'll put him down. 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: But rather than living in pain, it's been it to 81 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: euthanize the horse. 82 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: That's get I get the reasoning behind that, But my 83 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: question is we haven't come up with a medical technology 84 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: to help a horse with a broken leg yet. 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point there. But the most the 86 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: most depressing thing you see at a race track, and 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: I've seen it several times, is when in fact they 88 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: do put the horse down, they come out with a 89 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: little a truck and covered up with a curtain. Then 90 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: they just drive them out. It's just there's got to 91 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: be a better way for doing that as well. It's 92 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: just it's depressing, it really is. He just don't want 93 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: to see it. 94 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: And that happened a couple of years ago after one 95 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: of the bigger races right where they had to bring 96 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: the on the on the as equine ambulance, the horse 97 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: ambulance onto the track. Yeah. Look, obviously I understood. I 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: saw the tweet yesterday before the race about the seventh 99 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: the seventh horse basically passing away this week, and I 100 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: did see there was someone got suspended I think for 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: some of the treatment of of two of the horses. 102 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 2: But it is a jarring number, right, You're like seven 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: horses because you expect one or two maybe, especially as 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: you mentioned, once they break their legs there there there, 105 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: they can't live, you know. A good life and it's 106 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: a painful life, but it was. It was a pretty 107 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: jarring number though, seven, Like especially when you again, like 108 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: this is a world class track and you have the 109 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: best of the trainers and you have the best of 110 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: the owners. You share the best of the horses right now. 111 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: And to see seven put down, I get there was 112 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: there's one. I saw one, you know, fell down and 113 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: heard it snack, and I get their accents happened, but 114 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: it was pretty jarring to see number seven though, Andy, Like, 115 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: there's a lot of horses in a week. 116 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, I think 117 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: several years ago they had a similar situation at Santaannita 118 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: in California. 119 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I am, I am. I am waiting for 120 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: that day when there becomes a push to outlaw the 121 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: horse racing because of this. 122 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: No, no, Jeff, No. 123 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not advocating for it. I'm saying that 124 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm surprised there's not a larger push for that, and 125 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: I don't like in all in other sports, there's such 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: a big outrage anytime someone you know, ta takua ba loa. 127 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: Obviously we saw the you know, the head injuries that 128 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: he went through last year. It's like, you know, there's 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: this outrage about football and the way that football, you know, 130 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: the way that football protects its players and do they 131 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: do enough and should do or retire should they ever 132 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: play again? But like you know, it's obviously the NFL 133 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: is not horse racing and horses out the NFL, so 134 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: there's there's less coverage of it. But you know, anytime 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: there's a major injury out down in the NFL, there's 136 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: always talk about, you know, concussions and what is the 137 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: NFL doing enough? And I feel like with this story, 138 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: it's like this, like, yeah, it happened, that's unfortunate, and 139 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: everyone moves on. 140 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: You know what, you hit it right on the head. 141 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: It's still about exposure because the NFL has tremendous exposure. 142 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Is the number one sport in America, it really is, 143 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: and when something serious happens in that sport, everybody takes 144 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: a step back and say, let's do something about it. 145 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Racing basically is an afterthought except on Derby Day or 146 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: maybe Britus Cup. And now, which what happened yesterday at 147 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: Churchill Downs that may start a movement. I don't think 148 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: they're going to ban racing. But if you took look 149 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: at what Pete has done to Ring Brother's circus. They 150 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: outlawed the animals. There were no more animals in the circus. 151 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy what they've done, right, I don't know if 152 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't. 153 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: Know if Peta did that. I mean I think that 154 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: just society in general, you know, like that, like my kids, 155 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: I don't think of any interest in seeing something like that. 156 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: I think it's more just like just a society in 157 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: general than it does. And then it's like, didn did 158 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: Pena do anything about it? But yeah, again, I mean 159 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: the I think the Derby, you know, for a lot 160 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: of us, it's just you know, horse racing, especially if 161 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: you want to wager on the horses the ponies. It's 162 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: really hard obviously, and it's one of the things where 163 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: it's just hard to get into from scratch. So if 164 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: you decide to, you know, I want to watch the 165 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: Derby great, like we watched it last night. I put 166 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: it on. I watched the whole two minutes looking. 167 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: For you with Aaron Rodgers. 168 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah no, that's not for me. But yeah, I don't 169 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: know anything about the horses. I don't know anything about 170 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: the jockeys. I just watched it because it's a fun, 171 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: you know, sports thing to do. And I think that's 172 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: a hard part about you know, why it doesn't get 173 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: more coverage obviously, is you just you don't pay I 174 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: know nothing about the horses. I don't know anything about 175 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: the jockeys. Yeah, I sort of get I sort of 176 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: get strategy of how you know, of how the races 177 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: get get run. Especially afterwards. They do good job explaining 178 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: what happens and you know, and so again for two minutes, 179 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: it's pretty fun to watch. Otherwise I don't really watch 180 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: much of even the lead up to the race. 181 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: It was amazing to me. Man, they had like the 182 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: seven eight hours coverage on NBC, Yes today, and there's 183 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: some decent features. I had the TV on. I know, 184 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: if watching a little bit as in and out of 185 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: watching NBA basketball. But you know, you're right, it's a 186 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: big day. It's a it's more of a it's a 187 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: party atmosphere because I would think that the majority of 188 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: the people that go there are are in your shoes, 189 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: they don't know much about racing on the jockeys, but 190 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: they are a party. Did the women go there, they 191 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: dress to the nines. Oh yeah, they're drinking and that's 192 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: what they do. 193 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: I mean, my wife wants to go in the worst way, 194 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: Like she wants to go, like just to wear the 195 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: hat and drink them in julybs. Like she cannot, like 196 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: she wants to go, like really really. 197 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: You know what this plan? Maybe we'll go next year, Maybe. 198 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: There we'll go. I mean, she would love to go. 199 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: It's like a dream of hers to go. You know, 200 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: they have a steeple chase event here in Charlotte, and 201 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: we went. She went, not we she went two weeks ago. 202 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: She had the best time, Like she loves being out 203 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: in public and dressing up and having a good time. 204 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: So but yeah, I I I work with Fox Sports 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio, and I had to write an 206 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: article this week for the Derby. They wanted me to 207 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: help with some of the coverage, and so I asked around. 208 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: I asked some of my my gambling friends, Hey, how 209 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: do I how do I wager on the Derby? Like 210 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: how do you do it? If you're someone like me? 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: Who I know how the you know, the super effect 212 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: doesn't exact us. I know how it works, but for 213 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: most of us, like we have no idea what we're 214 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: doing when it comes to the ponies, right, like like 215 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: tell me how to tell me? Tell me a strategy 216 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: on how to wager on the horses. And Bill Krakenberg, 217 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: who we did a show Sunday mornings for for Fox 218 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: Sports Radio during the football s and he came up 219 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: with a strategy and he gave me a strategy and 220 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: it worked. I won two of my three wager yesterday, 221 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: so I came. I came out positive in the Derby. 222 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: How about that? Okay? So the strategy is basically you 223 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: have to you try to wait till close to post 224 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: time and you see you do you bet head to 225 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: head matchups? Okay, you bet head to head matchups. So 226 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: Horse A versus Horse B. What you do is you 227 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: look at the odds to win the race. So let's 228 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: say Horse A is that like the odds is like 229 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: three to one, and Horse B the odds are five 230 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: to one. Yet Horse B is either even money to 231 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: beat Horse A or a little bit of a slight favorite. 232 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: You take Horse A. You follow my lodger, and you 233 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: take Horse A because they have the better odds to 234 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: win the race. Therefore they should have the better odds 235 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: in a head to head matchup against a horse with 236 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: warse odds to win the race. I did that, yeah, 237 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: and I won two of three because it makes sense, right, 238 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: Like they that's a that's a that's a that's an error, 239 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: by the by the book, by the book. If you 240 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: have a head to head matchup, the person the horse 241 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: with the better I was to win the race should 242 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: be the favorite. 243 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Right right. But it's funny because most people will get 244 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: a copy of the Daily Racing Form and look at 245 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: the past performances and the speed of a horse and 246 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: where they have raced prior to Churchill downs. Have they 247 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: raced that distance? You know, the distance of the derby 248 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: as opposed to other distances. Oh yeah, six for long 249 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: a mile. 250 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't have time for that. Like I 251 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: can't just do that. Like another buddy of mine hit 252 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: he hit a thing with a bobber. He bet fifty 253 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: bucks one ninety thousand yesterday on race four, Like I know, 254 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: I can't believe it, Like I don't know. He showed 255 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: me his ticket. I was like, what does this even mean? 256 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: I don't know any of this stuff means with L one, 257 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: L two four horses here three horses. I don't pay attention. So, 258 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: like I said, but we want it on the action, right, 259 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: you want in on the action. It's it's a fun 260 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: two minutes everyone. I had a weird people over last 261 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: night for a little that way in our house. We 262 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: put the Derby on. Everyone's like, who do you got? 263 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: Who do you who? You wager on who? And everyone's 264 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: talking about it? Right, That makes part of sports fun, 265 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: right when you wage it really does that. 266 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to a derby party. 267 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, have no idea. I just I have 268 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: three head to heads. Here they are. I looked them up. 269 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: I had two fills in one of them. The two 270 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: fills finished second, right, I bet against one of them. 271 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 2: The matchups was against match match obviously one that was 272 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: so that was a dumb wager. And then my third 273 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: one was like a matchup of like two long shots. 274 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: It was the odds were messed up on that one, 275 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: so you find a little market inefficiency. And I had 276 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: a couple of wagers on the race and it was good. 277 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: It was fun, Like that's part of watching the Derby. 278 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Is that's great that you did that because basically the 279 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: so called experts, you know, the ones that they picked, 280 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: did finish way out of the money that really, I 281 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: think Reincarnated was actually like fifty two lengths behind, and 282 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: those are some of the winners that they had picked. 283 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: So cold experts. 284 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: It's funny Reincarnate is. I wrote this article on Thursday 285 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: and kind of updated Reencarnate was forty to one and 286 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 2: finished went off at thirteen to one. They horse came 287 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: way down fast. But you know, sports wagering makes the 288 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: derby more fun, right, It's part of the fun of it. 289 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: But it feels like it's such a crapshoot, right, man, Like, 290 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: how do you know the horse is gonna run? I mean, 291 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: earlier in the week fourte I was reading up. He 292 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 2: looked the horse, he's I think they're all She's right, 293 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: she looked great, right, she was like prants on her 294 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: toes and looking good and then all of a sudden scratched. 295 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: So you never know, man, you really don't know. Day Ago, 296 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: I tell you, I really enjoyed this conversation with you 297 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: talking about the Derby. I didn't think we'd stay. 298 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: With Hey, my boss told me, you know what, I 299 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: want you to participate in the Derby this year. I said, 300 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: you got it, boss, I figured I figured it out. Man, 301 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: so I've paid paid attention. I luckily, you know, I 302 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: had a lot of fun doing a Sunday show with 303 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: with you, obviously, but it's going to have a resource 304 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: like crack to help with with some with some wagering 305 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: ideas because my man makes uh you know. 306 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: Well, well now they're going to come back with you 307 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: in two weeks and ask you to do some stuff 308 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: for the Preakness. 309 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing the exact same thing I'm gonna. I'm gonna 310 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: do that same thing I'm gonna because I do so 311 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: I follow close enough, folck. I do know that. You know, 312 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: like horses that win the Derbok, all three races are different, right, 313 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: the Derby, the Preakness, and. 314 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: The distances is different. 315 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so like horses that win the Derby might not 316 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: even run in the rest of the races, Like that 317 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: doesn't matter at all. So like it's a different, whole 318 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: different race. 319 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: You're exactly right, d I love it. There he is 320 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz getting on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz g e 321 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: O F. F. Schwartz at Andy Furman FSR or eight seven 322 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox. If you have a different 323 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: system than Jeff, who knows eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six, 324 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: sixty three sixty nine. In this hour eat My Schwartz 325 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: our number two bottom barrel betting, and an hour number 326 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: three the blame game. Of course we have that as well. 327 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: But remember we're gonna be here for you, and the 328 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: phone lines are always open. But did one quarterback start 329 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: a new trend? Well, that's right around the corner here 330 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: we go. It's Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Right, 331 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: He's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman and we're brought to 332 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,239 Speaker 1: you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable 333 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: kind of multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, 334 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: a TV, and more, all your protection at one place. 335 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Bundle and save at Progressive dot com. Did you hear this, 336 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: Jeff about former NFL quarterback Cam Newton. He was on 337 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: the Undefined podcast the other day. He suggested that his 338 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: ongoing NFL employment could be related to the length of 339 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: his hair. Does does he realize that no one cares 340 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: about hair length and sports and all about what you 341 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: could do for me and can you win? That's what 342 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: it's all about. Look at Trevor Lawrence, right. 343 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: It's just it's he just can't play football at the 344 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: level that he needs to play to be NFL quarterback. 345 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: It's all that this is about man. NFL teams, dude, 346 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: they don't take anyone who could help them win. 347 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: What you look like, they don't care what your record 348 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: is it bother. 349 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: They don't care. Yeah, they don't care, you know, and 350 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: you know sometimes to unfortunately they don't care to your 351 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: point about your your your your rap sheet. Sometimes they 352 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: don't care about your politics. Can you help them win 353 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: football games? Like this has been shown over and over again, 354 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: and you know it, he just can't do that right 355 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: now at the level that here's the thing. So he 356 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: made a comment recently, Cam did about he's better than 357 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: X amount of starting quarterbacks the NFL, and he's absolutely right, No, no, 358 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: no disagreement there. But he comes down to to like, 359 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: what what does he want from his career and what 360 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: do the NFL teams want because you know he's not 361 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: like Cam is not up for that those jobs, like 362 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: Cam is not let's say before the draft, right, like 363 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: Cam is not up for the Texans job because the 364 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: Texans don't need Cam per se right, Like they're trying 365 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: to sort of stink to get a quarterback right, you 366 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: know a place like you know, like, is Cam better 367 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: than Sam Hall in Washington? Yeah he is, but of 368 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: course Romanvera has done Cam Newton before, like he he doesn't. 369 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to just go nine and eight with 370 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: Cam Newton. They're hoping that Sam how becomes the next 371 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: franchise quarterbacks, like Cam is not really up for that job. 372 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: You know, is Cam Newton better than you know, whatever 373 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: Arizona's gonna put out there this year with a Kyler 374 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: Murray Hurt. Absolutely he is. But again it is does 375 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: Cam want to sign a one year deal with the 376 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals knowing that whatever he does, they're gonna drive Killa 377 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: Williams next season? And again Arizona is trying to be 378 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: bad to get Killer Williams next year, right like Cam is? Yeah, 379 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 2: he is absolutely correct. He is better than a lot 380 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: of starting quarterbacks NFL right now, but he's not really 381 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: up for that job. There's this you have to understand 382 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: when you get to a certain age the NFL, there 383 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: is like you kind of surpass like a job like 384 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: you're too qualified for like a lower level position. You 385 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: make too much money and you're too qualified and the company, 386 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: the NFL team is not going to hire you for 387 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: that job. It's the most it's the most frustrating thing 388 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: that bothered me about the way we the way people 389 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 2: talk about Colin Kaepernick, because when they said he absolutely 390 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: got blackballed, he should have been a start quarterback NFL 391 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: at least should have been you know, a started for someone, 392 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: right or a high level backup. But that's besides the point. 393 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: But people would always say, you know, when someone a 394 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: thirstry quarterback signed, Jeff Schwartz signed a quarterback for for 395 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: the for for the Chiefs, how does he have a 396 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: job at quarterback? And Colin Kaepernick doesn't because CAP's not 397 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: up for that job. He's not up for third string 398 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: quarterback on the Chiefs, right like he's up for starting 399 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. Cam Newton is up for starting 400 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. He's not up for for for 401 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: backup in the NFL. It's not up for starting quarterback 402 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: on bad team in the NFL. That's not what he's 403 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: that's not his. He's not he's not up for that job. 404 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: Right in my life, you know, I see someone like 405 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: you know, they get a job calling a game and 406 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: someone's like, well, why don't you call games, Jeff, I'm like, 407 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm not up for that job. I'm not up for 408 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: the I'm not I'm not I'm not up for the 409 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: job of calling a football game right now. I'm not. 410 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm not qualified for that job. Right now. Cam is 411 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: overqualified for a lot of these starting jobs in the 412 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: NFL that he's better than those quarterbacks. I'm with him 413 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: on that, So like complaining about that to me, and 414 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: he knows this. By the way I think he knows 415 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: this is it doesn't really do anything for me, because, 416 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: like Caim, you know that you're not really up for 417 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: the Cardinals starting quarterback job, like you're you're not getting 418 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: they don't want you because they want to stink this season. 419 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: Right, No, you're right, I'm with you. Hey, I think 420 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: he's good enough to be on an NFL roster, but 421 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: he will not embrace what it means to be a backup. 422 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: But Andy, but like, but here's the thing, though, if 423 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: you're Kim, though, why would you even want Like you know, again, 424 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: you're not he's not up for backup quarterback job. But 425 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: that's not what He's overqualified for that position, right And 426 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: he doesn't want that job either, Like he doesn't want 427 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: to make two million dollars to be a backup quarterback. 428 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: So I just hate how we talk about this sometimes 429 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: because those are again like he's he didn't for those jobs, 430 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: so we should stop talking about it, like like Kim's 431 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: getting screwed by the NFL. He ain't because he's not 432 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: up for those He's not up for backup jobs. He's 433 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: not up for job on bad on bad team. So yeah, look, 434 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't know the the care comment is what it is. 435 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't. 436 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: I just it really is. I mean, look, if they're 437 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna take people that have been arrested, I mean then 438 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: the hair is a secondary thing and no one cares 439 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: about hair. If you could, if you could win for 440 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: my team, if you could go out there and get 441 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: me a championship, I don't care if you have no teeth. 442 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I saw the guy they drafted the other day, right, 443 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: he had two front teeth were missing. 444 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: The North Dakota State Here. 445 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: He's going to be a hero. People be wearing T 446 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: shirts with all over the place. 447 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: He had to gain like eighty pounds, but offensive line. 448 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: Now he's like got long red hair. The Bucks draft 449 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: of the Bucks have a two redheads on the offensive line. 450 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: That's that's gonna be fun to watch. 451 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: I love that really. Yeah, I touch on for a 452 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: second here. Lamar Jackson, certainly he's back, he's playing, and 453 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: now he says he wants to throw for six thousand yards. 454 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: That's not his game. His game is his legs. Why 455 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: would he even come out and say he want to 456 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: throw for six thousand yards. I don't understand people, I 457 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: really don't. 458 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: So. 459 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: Todd Munkin is a new offensive coordinator. He's going to 460 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: have a more pro style offense. They're going to pass 461 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: the ball more. You know, Todd Munkins was at Georgia 462 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, saw how well the offense did. 463 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: It's so funny, you know, Like you know, for months 464 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: we talked about Lamar and Baltimore. In the end of 465 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: the most obvious this didn't happen, right, which is the 466 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: Lamar was going back to Baltimore, which we all sort 467 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: of thought would happen in the end. Yeah, I mean, 468 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna try to throw the ball more 469 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: this year. That's why they brought in Todd Monkin to 470 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: change the offense. You know, Todd monkey In the last 471 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: two years at Georgia had sets in Bennett like they 472 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: weren't running the ball at the quarterback. They're passing the 473 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: ball bringing Zay Flowers. You have Odell now, So six 474 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: thousand yards obviously feels ambitious. Not gonna happen, But I 475 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: think that's just signals they're going to throw the ball 476 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: more and they're gonna put them in a in a 477 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: more of a quote unquote pro style offense, and we'll 478 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: see how it goes. 479 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: All right, there you go. He's Jeff Schwartz. I mean 480 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: Andy fermwee a Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, everyone, 481 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: I say, everyone saw this coming. That's on Fox Sports Sunday, 482 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: coming up live from the Tirack dot Com studios. Next, 483 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: but here he is a guy Brian Finley with the latest. 484 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: Andy Furman and Jeff Schwartz. Good to talk to you guys. 485 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: It's been a while, and I know Andy, you were 486 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 4: working double duty yesterday as a jockey and one of 487 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: the races not in the Kentucky deary, but I think 488 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: you were in race eleven on that one hundred to 489 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: one odd. 490 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: Horse race thirteen. Yeah, yeah, race. 491 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: Thirteen, and then you helped out clean things up in 492 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: the stalls afterwards, my own shovel. Yeah yeah, well you 493 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: were married in a barn, right, so we go. 494 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, it's true. 495 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 4: Lakers are winners against the Warriors one twenty seven and 496 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: ninety seven. That was Game three of their second round 497 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: Western Conference playoff series matchup. Lebron James did not attempt 498 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: a field goal in the opening quarter. He did finish 499 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: the twenty one points, eight rebounds, and eight assists. He 500 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: also had something else to celebrate, considering that his son, 501 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 4: browny hyped high school basketball player, announced his commitment to 502 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: stay in Los Angeles and play his college basketball at 503 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: usc LA. By the way, has a two games to 504 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: one lead in that series. The Heat have a two 505 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 4: games to one lead and their head to head against 506 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: the Knicks thanks to a one oh five eighty six 507 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: win last night. Jimmy Butler scoring twenty eight points and 508 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 4: he took eleven free throws, he only made one, and 509 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: the Heat are ahead in that series. Oilers and Golden 510 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: Knights are at one to one in their series score 511 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 4: in their second round playoff matchup after a five to 512 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: one Edmonton win in Game two last night, four goals 513 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: in the first period scored by Edmonton Major League Baseball. 514 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 4: We did have some of the later games featuring the 515 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: Rangers getting the job done against the Angels ten to one. 516 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: The Dodgers got a Chris Taylor to run home run 517 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 4: and that was enough offense for them to shut down 518 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: the Padres at Petco Park two to one, shines over 519 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: the Rivers four to one. Diamondbacks are now five games 520 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: over five hundred, with an eight to seven victory against 521 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 4: the Nationals. Andy Furman's Reds coming up with that elusive 522 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 4: and I say elusive win five to three against the 523 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: White Sox and the Pirates. Considering how well they have 524 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: been playing, guys, they have lost six in a row. 525 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: They on the are on the losing side of a 526 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: game against the Blue Jays eight to two. Blue Jays 527 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 4: had four fourteen hits and lastly, guys the Phillies they 528 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: suffer a six straight loss, even though Rice Arper had 529 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: his first home run of the season coming off the 530 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 4: injured list in defeat those seven to four. The Red 531 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: Sox swin with that. Let's get it back to a 532 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: man who has many socks in his drawer, oftentimes he 533 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: doesn't go with wearing any socks. It's Sandy Furman and 534 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz. 535 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much seeing it now. Expectations can kill you. 536 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just about a minute. He 537 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Ferman, and we're brought to 538 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: you by Discover. At the end of your first year, 539 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Discover credit cards automatically double all the cash back you've earned. 540 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: That's right, everything you aren't double seriously see terms of 541 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: check it out for yourself at discover dot com. Forward 542 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: slash Match. Let's continue for just a second with Lamar Jackson. 543 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: I want to ask you maybe he's setting a new 544 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: trend here because you know his mom was his agent. 545 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: He got a three year deal one hundred and fifty 546 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: six mil and average about fifty two MILLI season. Is 547 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: this something that maybe others are going to say, the 548 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: light's gonna go off. Maybe I don't need an agent, 549 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: I'll get my mother to do it for me. 550 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think in the end he had someone helping him. 551 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we know that we had. You know that 552 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: we had, you know, the Ken Francis situation. I do 553 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: think in these situations players do have an advisor helping them. 554 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if they want to call them an agent, 555 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: they don't pay them like an agent. Right. The thing 556 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: about an agent, Andy is is sometimes in life you 557 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: pay for convenience, if you're not having to do things yourself, 558 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: and for taking stress out of your life, right right. 559 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: And some players, in my opinion I was this way, 560 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: just don't want that stress in their life. And on 561 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 2: top of their their very busy life, on top of 562 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: the all black Actus already have at work, they just 563 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: don't want to deal with having to negotiate their own contract, 564 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: and so they pay an agent to do that for them, right. 565 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: And some players want to do their own deals, like Lamar, 566 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: did you? Lamar saved themselves anywhere from two to seven 567 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: million dollars depending on how much his agent fee would 568 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: have been, probably would have been one person sense and 569 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: closer to two. And if this was worth the two 570 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: million dollars, then it was a good deal for him. Sure, 571 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: if the headache wasn't worth it, then he should hired 572 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: an agent. Like again, for me, I felt an agent 573 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: was worth the money I paid him. Other players, I 574 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: would imagine feel the same way. Other players, obviously, we 575 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: know very famously Richard Sherman and Lamar Jackson and Bobby Wagner. 576 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: I think Russell Okun did his own deals right, and 577 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: other players like somebody's do their own deals, and for them, 578 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: like the business side of football and the stress of 579 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: doing your own contract and dealing with the teams personally, 580 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: they're fine with doing that. I wasn't Doug and I 581 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: wasn't as good as these players. But the other part 582 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 2: of this too is that really for those high level players, 583 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: the negotiations aren't that complicated, right. You know, you look 584 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: at what Jalen Hurt Scott for Lamar and you say, okay, 585 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: I want Jalen Hurts plus a little bit more money. 586 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: Like it's not it's not like it's this long turnout 587 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: of negotiation. It's not. There's a lot of back and forth. 588 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: You know, A player like myself, who you know was 589 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: was often you know, hurt and kind of you know, 590 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: getting a release and whatnot and finding a new team, 591 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: like I needed my agent to help me to help 592 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: find me a new job. Right. But for Lamar and 593 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: for some of the other players, like you're just you're good, 594 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: Like teams are calling you, they want you on their team. 595 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: So that's you know that I don't think it's a 596 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: new trend. I don't think it's gonna change very much. 597 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: But you know, just you play for the convenience of 598 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: having someone do it for you. You know. One of 599 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: the reasons we talked about Lamar and I think not 600 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: having an agent that was really tough was the rayevens 601 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: were telling him to his face, Lamar, we don't think 602 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: you're worth it. You know this ex contract that you want. 603 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: That's hard to hear from an from a team, a 604 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: team that you're playing with. Lamar has won seventy five 605 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: percent of his regular season games. Imagine hearing from from 606 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: from your team that you wont seven percent of games, Like, yeah, 607 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't think you're worth this, this contra that you 608 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: want from us. That's why the agent's there, right, Agent's 609 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: a buffer, and I don't want to hear that from 610 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: teams major that was his job to say, filth the information, 611 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: I'll give it to me. And again, I was find 612 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: paying that some players aren't find paying that. And Lamar 613 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: has more money he's talking down for not doing Yet 614 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: maybe he looks back and says, you know what, the 615 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: hassle wasn't worth it for the two million dollars or 616 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: maybe it was I don't know, but that's that's why 617 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: I think the trend is probably gonna be what it is. 618 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: A handful of players who are very, very good, we'll 619 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: keep doing their own deals, and the rest of us, 620 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: we'll pay for the convenience of having an agent. 621 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: Right and one glaring stat and you kind of hit 622 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: it on the head of his regular is like forty 623 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: five and sixteen, which almost a seventy five percent fourth 624 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: best if any starting quarterback to debut in the Super 625 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: Bowl era, and Baltimore was eight and thirteen without him 626 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: over the last five seasons. That's the key right there. 627 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really you know, Baltimore, I'll probably pick up 628 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: to win the AFC. The worth again, I just am 629 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: a sucker for that wage or they're plus money. Right now, 630 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: the Bengals win total things eleven and a half. Bengals 631 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: are really really good. But Baltimore, man, it just win 632 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: games when Lamar's in the lineup. And obviously there's a 633 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: lot of moving parts with you know, the new offense 634 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: that are going to have and seeing what that's going 635 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: to be. But they win, man, they win a lot 636 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: of games. And obviously you have to try to translate 637 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: that to the playoffs. 638 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Right, you know, And and this is something that I 639 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: don't think anybody was surprised about switching gears here to 640 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: the NBA for a second. I said, expectations can kill you. 641 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Bucks, they lost to the NBA East, to 642 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: the Miami Heat, and they coach Mike Budenhalzer was was 643 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: fired the other day. We said that last week. We 644 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: knew it was just a matter of time when he 645 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: was gonna get fired. But look, if they were not 646 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: number one, a number one seed, I don't think he'd 647 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: be fired. It's all about expectations, not about the job 648 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: that he did. It didn't do right. 649 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's all about expectations. But you know the thing 650 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: about it, it's it's not even that it's I think 651 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: it's how they lost that there were times when you know, 652 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: there was strategy that appeared to need to be involved, 653 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: and he just did call timeouts, like he didn't get 654 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: the team in the in the right spot where they 655 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: need to be in to help them win. And that's 656 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: kind of where, you know, why this is kind of 657 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: where it's at. Other questions, I don't know who's better 658 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: or what the next planet is here. But that feels 659 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: like it's more of a of a strategy thing, like 660 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: he just kind of didn't do the strategy things necessary 661 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: to win, less of like your sticky coach, you know 662 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: what I mean. And it KiB has to be a 663 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: scapegoat when you lose in the way they did. But look, Miami, 664 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: they're gonna beat they beat the next seas y. Yes, 665 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: they're pretty handily. They're probably gonna win the series. But 666 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna be theseter Conference finals. I mean, it's an 667 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: eight seed. Like, he didn't lose to a bum team. 668 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: It's just happened that Miami barely made the playoffs. 669 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it amazes me. I mean, I think Eric Skultcher 670 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: is a really underrated coach. I mean, the players that 671 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: he gets and where does he get these guys from? 672 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: This gay Vincent all these players that have been on 673 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: the Heat right now, they have a heck of a 674 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: developmental system, the Miami Heat, they really do. But you know, 675 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: one of the stats that's kind of glaring as well 676 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: is that three of the past four NBA champions, the 677 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Raptors, the twenty twenty Lakers, the twenty twenty 678 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: one Bucks. Now they have all fired their coaches. I 679 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: guess it's all about expectations, you know, when you're gone. 680 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: That's basically what it is. 681 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's you know, pro sports certainly can 682 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: can kind of be that vicious right where the Lakers 683 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 2: one was a little different. I think just out of 684 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: Vogel ever fitin Lebron's personality. 685 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: Leron made that cool. 686 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously happened with with Bodonholzer and then in in 687 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: in Toronto, some sort of thing, right, Like it was 688 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: when when they were winning, it was when they were winning, 689 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: it was it was good. And then when they were losing, 690 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: end up being you know, the personality didn't match, so 691 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: ends up again. It's a lot of times the personality driven, 692 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, a lot you know, some of these especially 693 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: on the pro side. Right this happens. 694 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, like I think teams have 695 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: a kind of a window. If they don't win during 696 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: that window, forget about it. Because I think this year 697 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: the Celtics is theirs. It's theirs to have to win. 698 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: This year's shame on them and the Bucks. I think 699 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: the window was beginning to close right now because Chris 700 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: Middleton of Brick Lopez. They're free agency in the offseason 701 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: right now, and that could close that window a little 702 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: bit for the Milwaukee Bucks. 703 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But you always have a chance with with with 704 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: with Jannis though, right, look that it always gives you 705 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: a chance. You're getting free agents. There might be difficult though, 706 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: so you have to draft, you draft well, yeah, look, 707 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: i mean the Lakers windows like now to maybe next year, 708 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: and yeah, this is this is the way it is 709 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: an NBA. It's hard to keep your window open for 710 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: as long as the Spurs for so many years, right, 711 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: the Bulls for so many years, the Lakers for you know, 712 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: with the the Kobe years. Obviously, what the Warriors have done. 713 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean, look, the Warriors, this is probably their last year. 714 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Draymond is going to be a free agent 715 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: after the season. Klay Thompson's it's not he can still shoot, obviously, 716 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: but he's kind of slowing down physically, obviously with all 717 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: the injuries he's had. 718 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: You'll it's gonna be thirty six. 719 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: The young players haven't what they really don't have that 720 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: next core, I mean Pooling and Wigans is at the 721 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: next corp. It's obviously not Steph Draymond and Clay, So 722 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: you know it comes to an end. But they have 723 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: won four championships eight years, so it obviously worked for them. 724 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: Exactly right. Just Schwartz Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on 725 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: Fox Bits Radio. Yeah, he played in the NFL. He's 726 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: an author and he has a lot to say. Eat 727 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: My Schwartz is next. Bally Foo's Goo here with Tony Fosco. 728 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 6: Yo. 729 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 7: Of course you know us as the host of the 730 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 7: number one rated show and all the sports docs, The 731 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 7: Pally and Tony Fusco Show. If you're hearing this promo 732 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 7: right now, it means you're listening to some other show. 733 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: Uh, well, why the. 734 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 6: Hell are you doing that? 735 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: Ye, get your priority straight. 736 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 7: Well, maybe Tony, they listened to this week's episode already. 737 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't care listen to it again. 738 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, great point that, Dony. Anyway, so you're listening out there, 739 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 7: make sure and go do that and listen to The 740 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 7: Folly and Tony Fusco Show on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast. 741 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: Wherever you get your podcasts. 742 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 743 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 744 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 745 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 6: listen live eat My. 746 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: Schwartz right around the ben. It's about eleven minutes now 747 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: before the top of the hour. This is Fox Sports, 748 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: so on the Fox Sports Ready, he's Jeff Schwartz and 749 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: Many Furman and we are live from the tai iraq 750 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: dot com studios. But right now it's that time. Let's 751 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: do it, Eat My Schwartz. All right, little music, then 752 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: here we go. All right, are you ready, mister Schwartz? 753 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: I think I think, so here we go. Okay, when 754 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: you join the NFL, what players, if any, were you 755 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: in awe of? 756 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, when I joined, I don't know the three 757 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: players I've been most when I've played with Julis Pepper, 758 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: so I've played and I had to block a bunch 759 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: in Herolina was looking at the Panthers, and then I 760 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: when I in person, I've seen play like Adrian Peterson, 761 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: who I played within twenty twelve. And then I played 762 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: against Peyton Manning in twenty thirteen, the year he had 763 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: fifty touchdowns first year with the Broncos. Those like to 764 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 2: three players that I remember watching Peyton Manning in twenty 765 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: thirteen were in Denver. We actually then we played them 766 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: again in Kansas City a couple of weeks later. But 767 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: the first time I saw him in Denver that year, 768 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: and like there was a pass he threw down the 769 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: sidelines right toward where I was standing, and I thought 770 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: to myself, there's no way that ball gets to the 771 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver. And he hit in such perfect stride. He 772 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: was so good. So those are three players that I've 773 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: said I've been like personally in off of when I've 774 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: watched it either been their teammate or when I watched 775 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 2: him play. 776 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: We'll go one stuff further. Did you like get autograss 777 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: from them, the autograph jerseys? Who are selfies with them? 778 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: Then I'm not a memorabilia like guy. I don't. I 779 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: never did that. No, I didn't do. I did a 780 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 2: couple of jerseys swamps only with teammates of mine at 781 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: the end of the season, like when there was extra 782 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: jerseys to be had. It's like I have an Odell 783 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: jersey and Jamal Charles, I think a couple when I 784 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: did it when I was younger, Like I have a 785 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: Jonathan Stewart Janjona Williams with the Panthers and Jordan Gross 786 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: and I think Ryan Khalil but like as I got older, 787 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, who cares? Top Jr. 788 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: Okay, we know that once in a while you like 789 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: to put a couple of shekels down at various events. 790 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: All right, which sport are you most successful in wagering? 791 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 2: Pack twelve football? I believe I am. I don't have 792 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: my iPad with me. I think in the last three 793 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: years I'm about sixty percent in the PAC twelve. 794 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: Really. 795 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, so my day job is packed of radio 796 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday at serious XM sixty nine Eastern on 797 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: three seventy three. And you know, I just follow the 798 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: conference for a living, and so I have a good 799 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: feel on uh, you know, obviously how to wager on 800 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: the conference. 801 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would think that people that wager and 802 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: uh and really a serious the wager games, and obviously 803 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: you do because you study they they become really good 804 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: hosts in various sports. They really do. 805 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 5: Yeah. 806 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: Maybe, but they say that the way to make money 807 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: in wagering is to do what I is. To do 808 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: what I do is to follow, especially in the college shot. 809 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: You follow one conference in basketball and football and just 810 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: wager on that conference because the NFL is too sharp. 811 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: You're not gonna make money in the NFL and it's 812 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: not enough games. But college football, man, there's a lot 813 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: of inefficiencies when it comes like the Pac twelve. I 814 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: see some lines come up like yeah, that's that's a 815 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: bad line, and so uh pack troll football. Yeah, I 816 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: post my I post my picks every Friday during the 817 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: season for the Pac twelve. I start slow, you start bad. 818 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: I start slowing on conference play, and then I as 819 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: the sceneor goes on, I pick up a conference play. 820 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I bring that up because so years ago in Cincinnati, 821 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: Arch Schleister. You know you've heard of Arch Schlister. He 822 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: did his sports talk show in Cincinnati, and I found 823 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: it to be very intelligent in the sense that he 824 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: knew exactly what's going on. So because he waged on 825 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: every single game. 826 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what wadgeram does keep you more 827 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: involved in in sports than it does not, Like you know, 828 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: if you have a little some money, it's just at 829 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: the derby. Like again, like I played more attention because 830 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: you're able to to wager on it. 831 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: There you go, now you talk about the Derby. Let's 832 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: get the Jeff Schwartz sports bucket list. Events in sports 833 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: where you'd like to go to. 834 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: Oh, good question. So I what have I not been 835 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: to that I've been? I've been. I've been to a 836 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I've been to a Rose Bowl. I have 837 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: What have I not been? 838 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: You're a baseball fan and be a World Series NBA. 839 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 2: World I've been in a World Series game. I've been 840 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 2: a World Series game before. But I want there's specific 841 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: like I would love to go to, like see like 842 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 2: a night game, like an LSU I I got to go. 843 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 2: I love to go to see the game of Notre Dame. 844 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: I've been to most of the big baseball stadiums. I've 845 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: ever been a a finals game, you know, the Masters 846 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: like I guess, I don't know. 847 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: I just to say you've been there. 848 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I've been fortunate enough to at least hit 849 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 2: a lot of these sporting events once in my life. 850 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: I surprise you haven't mentioned the Final Four. 851 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: If organs, then i'd go interesting, all right? I think football, 852 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: I think I think basketball and football stadium is kind 853 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 2: of whack. 854 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: So here we go. All right, So that'll wrap it 855 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: up for the this this week's edition of Eat My Shwitts. 856 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: But is this any way to run a University. We'll 857 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: tell you next I. 858 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 6: Fox Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup 859 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 6: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports 860 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 6: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR 861 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 6: to listen live. All The pressure is on the Champs. 862 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 6: We'll get to that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. 863 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 6: This is Fox Sports Sunday. Hey's Jeff Schwartz. 864 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm Andy Fern, and we are broadcasting live from the 865 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: ti rack dot Com studios ty rack dot com. We'll 866 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: help you get there and on my selection fast free shipping. 867 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: Free road has a protection and over ten thousand recommended 868 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: installars ti i rack dot com. The way tie a 869 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: buying should be the pressure right now, Jeff Schwartz is 870 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: on the on the champions of defending champions. The pressure 871 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: is on the Warriors tomorrow. They're going to attempt to 872 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: tie this series right now at two. If they don't, 873 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: they'll face a three one deficit at the hands of 874 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: the King Lebron. James, what's happening with the Lakers, rejuvenated 875 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: Lakers right now? 876 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how reguvenated Lebron 877 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: looked at the end of the game, but he'll rejuvenated 878 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: in the second quarter. Yeah, it was. It was an 879 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: odd game, right, I mean Lebron took no field goal 880 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 2: attempts in the first quarter, which has kind of been 881 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 2: a trend of his in the playoffs where he's trying 882 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: it feels like he's trying to find someone that that 883 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: third option who's going to help him in the game, 884 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: right because we know ad is, you know, and he's 885 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 2: up and down. The next game is going to have 886 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 2: four points, so we can just accept that right now, 887 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: and it's about finding you know, is it gonna be Russell, 888 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: which it was yesterday? Is it gonna be Hocha Mora, 889 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 2: Is it gonna be Austin Reeves? Like who's gonna be 890 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,959 Speaker 2: the third guys are gonna be? Who's who's the third guy? 891 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: Who's gonna be my my hot kind of scorer in 892 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 2: this game? And then he decided the second court obviously 893 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 2: he I think he had ten or eleven point second quarter, 894 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: kind of decided, yeah, you know what, I'm still the 895 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: best player in the NBA, which obviously he's not, but 896 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 2: one of the best players ever to play in the NBA. 897 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 2: All take over the game for a little bit, and 898 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: the Lakers pulled away. But look some of some all 899 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 2: can can be pretty simple, right. The Warriors missed a 900 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: ton of open shots in this game. The Lakers did 901 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: play good defense, and they played much more defense at 902 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: home than they do on the road. They hustled. The 903 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: hustle was fantastic compared to the game too. Lebron a 904 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: d just kind of getting the way it passes and 905 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 2: making the extra play. But the Warriors just missed a 906 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: ton of shots. Man, and Lebron looks, he looks, he 907 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: look gassed when they took him out in the third quarter. 908 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: I know he didn't play much of the fourth quarter 909 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: Lakers who were pretty big, So I just don't know 910 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: about that. Can Lebron keep his pace something? Man? Can 911 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: he play with one day off and come back tomorrow 912 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: and you know, be ready to go at the same 913 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: level he was in Game three? Can ad The most 914 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: the most frustrating player in the NBA is Anthony Davis, 915 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 2: right because you watch him play Andy, and you know 916 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: twenty five and thirteen, the first game he had with 917 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: that thirty twenty game and then the next game after that, 918 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: he just stinks. He looked like he knew how to 919 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: play basketball game too. 920 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: You know what, You're right on that, But I'm gonna 921 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: go one step further. I mean, he gets a lot 922 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: of criticism because he's supposed to be Lebron's right here. Man. 923 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: He's really come alive to some extent, at least defensively. 924 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: Yesterday was tremendous. He was. But another guy that I 925 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: think gets a free pass is Draymond Green. Guy Dramond 926 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: goes two points yesterday, and I think that he has 927 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: traveled on the code tails of some great players on 928 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: Golden State's team. I mean, I'm hearing these announcers say 929 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: that Draymond Green is a spot in the Natesmith all 930 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: the faith for this guy in Springfield, Massachusetts, and I'm 931 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: scratching my head and say why why I get it. 932 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: He's got the rings and this day and age, if 933 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: you got the rings, you know you're a great play. No, 934 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: he's part of a great team. He contributed to some extent, 935 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: but he is not the greatest that they make him 936 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: out to be. 937 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: He's I think he's like, he's like he averages eight 938 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 2: points and seven remols for his career. But I think, 939 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 2: I think, what if you listen to anyone who's connected 940 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: to the Warriors. They tell you that Draymond, you know, 941 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: is kind of you know, they're like, you kind of 942 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 2: need a Draymond on your team, right, And his ability 943 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 2: to do kind of the dirty work, his ability to 944 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 2: if you watch it in their offense, man, he initiates 945 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: a ton of offense by his ability to pass the ball. 946 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: He plays so much bigger than he actually is. That 947 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: helps him defensive him. He was great in Game two 948 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 2: again to Anthony Davis. You know last night he was 949 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 2: a Trociers on offense. But he's been a big part 950 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 2: of a lot of their playoff wins in the past, 951 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 2: and I can see why his defense will get him 952 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. It's not he's not going 953 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: with his offense, but his defense, his leadership, leadership. 954 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: But you think he's a Hall of Famer, then. 955 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: I would argue, well, if we're going off of stats, no, 956 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: but that's not often. I guess what the Hall of 957 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 2: Fame goes off of, right. 958 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: You know what, It's funny you bring that up because 959 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: right now and I think that he's on the playoff stage, 960 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: so he's getting a little more exposure than he than 961 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: he normally does. A little about Jimmy Butler. You know, 962 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: you don't hear about Jimmy Butler going through the Hall 963 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: of Fame. I would say Jimmy Butler from the Miami 964 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 1: Heat should be in the Hall of Fame, way way 965 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: before Dramond. 966 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I really do think that there is that 967 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: Draymond Green has played a vityl role for you. Again, 968 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 2: if you listen to anyone connected to the Warriors, so 969 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 2: tell you the vital role that he's played with his leadership, 970 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: his defense, his toughness. I'm kind of doing the dirty work. 971 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: The way he's able to set screen. If you watch him, 972 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,479 Speaker 2: he sets screens nowt at a high level to help 973 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 2: get you know, get Clay Open, get Steff Open. And 974 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: he does look at the little things that help you 975 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 2: be a championship team. You need a Draymonde on your 976 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: team to win a championship most years, you know, Jimmy 977 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 2: Butler hasn't won it that level, right, Like that's part 978 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 2: of he's one, I believe, zero championships, Right. 979 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: That's what kills me. You know, if you don't have 980 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: the rings, you're not going to go to the Hall 981 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: of Fame. 982 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that and and I know I know, I 983 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 2: know it bothers you and I know that other people too, 984 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: but that's part of of you know, the the sport 985 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: is winning, right and Draymond Green has helped again, Steph 986 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: is there and Clay's there that the other players step 987 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 2: up in certain moments. But you know when you win, 988 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 2: When you win championships, the bar is a little bit 989 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: lower to get into a place in the Hall of Fame. 990 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: When you're Jimmy Butler and you've been really really good 991 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: for many teams, I guess two teams. Really you know 992 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: you and you don't win a championship, the bars is 993 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: higher if you don't win a championship. It's like that. 994 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of that simple. Jimmy bow is probably the 995 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame eventually, right. 996 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I would think Jimmy Butler would be in 997 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I think that a championship would 998 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: cement the fact that he would be in the Hall 999 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: of Fame, and there's no doubt about that. But I 1000 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: don't think a championship should be the key element being 1001 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: in the whole of fame. Let's go for football for 1002 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: a second. You know, I never thought that Eli Manning 1003 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: was the greatest quarterback on on God's Green Earth. However, 1004 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: winning two super Bowls that may be the ticket for 1005 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 1: him getting into the Super Bowl I did the Hall 1006 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: of Fame. 1007 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he will be in the Hall of Fame for 1008 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: that because you know, when you have the playoff runs 1009 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 2: that he had, the way he play in those playoff runs, 1010 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 2: and again, this is the bigger stages, right, these are 1011 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 2: this is you know, this is the super Bowl. Now 1012 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: he will be the Hall of Fame because of that. 1013 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: He won't be obviously first ballot Hall of Famer, but 1014 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 2: he will absolutely be in the Hall of Fame because 1015 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: of his ability in those big moments, in those moments 1016 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 2: to play as well as he did. And you know, 1017 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 2: to me, the hard part about some of the discussion 1018 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 2: when it comes to like Eli and other players is 1019 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: you know they're never they were never the best at 1020 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: their position or even really top at their position at all. 1021 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: Like Eli in any year, was he ever the best quarterback? 1022 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 5: No? 1023 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: Was he ever third, top three, top five? Probably not. 1024 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 2: But again in those Super Bowl runs, he was very 1025 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 2: very good. And so you have to kind of again 1026 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 2: weigh that out, like in is that do you weigh 1027 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 2: that little heavier than someone who never made the playoffs 1028 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: someone who didn't win in the playoffs, and I do 1029 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: think that his success in those playoffs will get him 1030 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 2: in the Hall of. 1031 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: Fame, There's no doubt about that. But I think also 1032 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: making a comparison with doing football and basketball, it's a 1033 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: little different simply because the position of quarterback weighs heavily 1034 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: in the decision making of a Hall of Fame. Because 1035 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: if you go to the Super Bowl with a great 1036 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: surrounding cast and you're an average quarterback and you go 1037 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and win, you're gonna go to 1038 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame because of the position you play. 1039 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 2: Yes, But also the list of quarterbacks have won two 1040 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 2: Super Bowls is like ten, like, it's not a lot. 1041 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: So I think everyone's in there but one quarterback. And 1042 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 2: I think, eli, that's that's what I will get in. 1043 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there's a lot of basketball players that 1044 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 1: are great players that will never see the door opening 1045 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: for them in the Hall of Fame because they haven't 1046 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: won rings. And that's why I somewhat respect baseball in 1047 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: that regard, because you know, they have the Veterans Committee, 1048 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: which sometimes is a joke, but they'll vote these guys in, 1049 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: like Bill Mazeroski, if you remember, and I'm going back 1050 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: though in time the nineteen sixty Pittsburgh Pirates. He was 1051 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: an average baseball player. His his whole clank to fame 1052 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: is sitting a home run against the Yankees to beat 1053 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: them in the nineteen sixty World Series. But he was 1054 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: voted in by the Veterans committees in the Hall of Fame. 1055 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: But there are players like that never won a World Series, 1056 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: like Ernie Banks, you know, a two time MVP and 1057 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: a last place team. He's in the Hall of Fame 1058 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: and his team never won anything. But baseball permits you 1059 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: to do that. Were other sports you have to have 1060 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: that ring, and I think that's wrong baseball. 1061 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 2: But baseball is such an individual atatistic based sport where 1062 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 2: you can compare numbers over the years. I mean, I've 1063 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 2: I think baseball has made a mistake, but not including 1064 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 2: the stereo era. 1065 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: And I agree in their Hall. 1066 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: Of Fame, you know, the Hall of Fame is supposed 1067 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 2: to be, you know, kind of a record of accomplish sport, right, yeah, 1068 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 2: And but here's my my problem with with the keeping 1069 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: Barry Bonds out of it and Clemens to a degree 1070 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 2: is if you ask any player who played during the 1071 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 2: stereo ara of who the best player in baseball was. 1072 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 2: They said Barry Bonds. 1073 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: Right, he would have been a Hall of Fame, but 1074 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 1: without taking steroids. 1075 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: He was at four hundred and four hundred before he 1076 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 2: took steroids, before he went to before ninety eight with 1077 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 2: really ninety nine, ninety eight was the year when mcguarrettons 1078 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 2: had their run. Bonds has said he was jealous about 1079 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 2: the attention that those guys got. He was hurt in 1080 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 2: ninety nine. He came back in two thousand, looked like 1081 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: a different person, right, And that's when his numbers. But 1082 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 2: it's funny, he's only hit over fifty home runs one season. 1083 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 2: That was, say, the seventy three season. He didn't he 1084 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 2: just was consistent and he hit a bunch of home 1085 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 2: runs for many years, the high number for many years. 1086 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: And you know, when you leave them out, you're you're 1087 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 2: not telling a story of baseball. Because the steroid era 1088 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 2: was condoned by the commissioner, right, he did nothing about it. 1089 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 2: There was gonna be nothing done about until Congress got evolved. 1090 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 2: Like baseball did not want to do anything about it. 1091 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 2: They didn't test for steroids. They just didn't care, right 1092 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 2: because the. 1093 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 1: Bombs, because it was the golden age of baseball. People 1094 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 1: loved it. 1095 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 2: People loved it. They're off to strike. They need something 1096 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 2: to to talk about. But my argument for for why 1097 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 2: I think it's bs that they don't include Bonds and 1098 00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: the clubs, all these all these players in there, is 1099 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: you can't tell me that you know exactly who and 1100 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: who did not take steroids during that era. And there's 1101 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: plenty of players that have been inducted in the Hall 1102 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: of Fame that I can assure you took steroids during 1103 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 2: that era. And it's like, and if you listen to 1104 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 2: you know, even I know everyone laughed. Jose canseeiko, but 1105 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 2: he said, what seventy percent of players were on steroids? 1106 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 2: It seems like that was pretty true, Like it was 1107 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 2: close and so of some form, some form of steroids something. 1108 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 2: And to just deny that Bonds, it's just so silly 1109 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 2: to be so, I mean, Baseball has done a disservice 1110 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 2: to their own Hall of Fame, but on including Bonds 1111 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: and Clemens and making them escapegoats for for that whole era, 1112 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 2: which again Bud ceely buzz He's in the Hall of Fame, 1113 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: but ceedly did not care. 1114 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: He I know the ground he. 1115 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 2: Was going to let this go. Mark maguire very famously 1116 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: had andro in his locker like he was not illegal 1117 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 2: to take some of these supplements. And so I just 1118 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 2: think baseball has done this wrong. 1119 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: I just think that your accomplished is what you've done. 1120 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a boy scout th at 1121 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: that the Hall of Fame. I mean their ty Cobb 1122 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: killed somebody allegedly, he's in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, 1123 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: And I still think Pete Roe should be in the 1124 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. 1125 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think again. I think Pete Rose might eventually be. 1126 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: On the gambling situation, I understand the rule of Major 1127 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: League Baseball, but don't take away from the forty two 1128 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: to fifty six hits he's got now do with gambling. 1129 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 2: I know. And if you want to create a separate 1130 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 2: you want to put a wing with Verry Bonds and 1131 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: Pete Rose and it go ahead. But again, Bonds did 1132 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 2: not break any rules when he played. I mean, they 1133 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 2: had a steroid policy in baseball, but they didn't test 1134 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 2: full time for steroid two two thousand and five, I 1135 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 2: believe twousand and six because they had a metal report, 1136 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: they spent a year of testing behind the scenes, and 1137 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: in two thousand and five, I believe, is when they 1138 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 2: fully implemented to some sort of testing ish policy. So 1139 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 2: baseball didn't care about it and they embraced it. And 1140 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 2: the same sports writers who wrote their columns during the 1141 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 2: late nineties that enjoyed the hormone trace of ninety eight 1142 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 2: are now the ones that are like those. 1143 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: Guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it really is yeah, and 1144 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: those that the guys do the voting, which is a shame, 1145 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: it really is. You can't ignore a decade of Major 1146 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,720 Speaker 1: League of sports, of Major League Baseball like it never happened, 1147 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: and that's. 1148 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 2: What they're doing, especially because also I kind of I'm 1149 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 2: a I'm a Hall of Fame voter, but my my 1150 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 2: criteria for voting during the stereoid era players would be 1151 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 2: very simple. It's like, if you if you think a 1152 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 2: player has done steroids right, and again it's not they 1153 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 2: didn't test, you don't know. I think they have to 1154 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 2: be above and beyond the best player right or like 1155 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 2: or have or be you know, above and beyond kind 1156 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 2: of what a normal player that position would do, right, 1157 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 2: And because there are players in that era that are 1158 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 2: up for I don't think anyone's really gotten in that 1159 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 2: that that that's been this way, were like, yeah, their 1160 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 2: numbers just like in the steroid era when numbers were 1161 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: a little inflated, their numbers weren't great, and you're like, well, 1162 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 2: you know, and you kind of suspect them to maybe 1163 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 2: be using So are they really that good? Right? Bonds? Again, 1164 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 2: what's the best player? One of the best players without steroids, 1165 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: and then became the best player like above and beyond. 1166 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 2: He would see one pitch a game that might have 1167 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,479 Speaker 2: been a strike and he hit the ball four hundred 1168 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 2: and fifty feet like he was incredible. He had eight 1169 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: golden gloves before he basically got to ninety eight. Like, 1170 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 2: dude was incredible for five hundred stolen bases for his career. 1171 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: So to act like Bonds, you know, is the is 1172 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 2: the scapegoal for this whole generation. I think it's really silly. 1173 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. There he goes, he's Jeff Schwartz. 1174 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: Get him on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz, that's Geoff Schwartz 1175 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: at Andy Ferman f s so, I bet he had 1176 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven 1177 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine bottom barrel betting 1178 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: in this hour. How our number three is the blame game, 1179 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: But one NFL rookie says a future Hall of Famer 1180 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,959 Speaker 1: will help his game. That's next on the higher level 1181 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: of play. We'll get to that in just about a minute. 1182 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: Hey is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports, 1183 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: Sunny and Fox Sports Ready. It brought to you by 1184 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Got a 1185 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, bot, ATV 1186 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: and more all your protection in one place. Bundle and 1187 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 1: save at Progressive dot com. And mister Schwartz, let's talk 1188 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: a little college football right up your ally. Perhaps the 1189 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: second most popular sport in the country today, college football, 1190 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: and the face of that sport has since changed with 1191 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: this transfer portal and for sure, coach Deon Sanders at 1192 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: the University of Colorado, fifty players have left his program 1193 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: since December, and the athletic director at the University of Colorado, 1194 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: Rick Georges, he backs Iners, and I say, really does 1195 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: he have a choice? I mean, come on, he could 1196 00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: run for governor in the state of Colorado. Right now, 1197 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 1: Dean and and the and the portal right now, go 1198 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: to a band. I say coaches can move, now, players 1199 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: can move. But I ask you this because you were 1200 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: an outstanding college football player. What about the academics? How 1201 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 1: does one become automatically eligible when it goes from one 1202 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: school to another. I never understood that. 1203 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 2: So it's kind of funny you mentioned Colorado in this 1204 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 2: because I I again, I covered the Pac twelve and 1205 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 2: Colorado was a tough school to transfer into because they 1206 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 2: didn't have like a it's just gonna be a simple 1207 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 2: way to say it, but they didn't have like a 1208 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 2: general studies major, and so they couldn't get a lot 1209 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 2: of transfers because you had to transfer into like, you know, 1210 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 2: one of their one of their their their programs, like 1211 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 2: a you know, a sociology, you know, department or educate. 1212 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 2: You had to academics to transfer into one of their 1213 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 2: major programs, which is a lot harder to do if 1214 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 2: you don't have the if you were at a different school, 1215 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 2: didn't take those credits right to get you into that program. 1216 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 2: It was hard to turn. Now, they they they changed, 1217 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 2: they basically added a general studies type major to help 1218 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 2: football to to help to get transfers. 1219 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: Down a little bit. 1220 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no, they just know they just added, uh, 1221 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 2: okay is a football player. There are players that certainly 1222 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 2: are are very capable of getting you know, a major 1223 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: in something that is you know, uh credible, sure, whatever 1224 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 2: word you want to use for like like like I 1225 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: got my major in political science. I thought, you know, 1226 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 2: my my goal was always to be an attorney, and 1227 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 2: you know that's one major that a lot of attorneys 1228 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 2: are up getting political science. But to be fair, it 1229 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 2: was a pretty easy major, right, It just kind of fit, 1230 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 2: like the schedule that I had an organ around football 1231 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 2: when I have love to use the Business School to 1232 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 2: organ which is one of the best in the country. 1233 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 2: It's associated, you know with with Nike, and you know what, 1234 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: I have loved to do sports marketing, sports business absolutely 1235 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 2: but didn't fit the football schedule. Like it just wasn't 1236 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 2: possible to do. And so I had to do something 1237 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 2: that kind of fit what time I had in my life. 1238 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 2: And and so it makes sense that Colorado try to 1239 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 2: be competitive, decided that they needed to have a program 1240 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 2: that fit more with the athletes. You know, their commitment. 1241 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 2: Their commitment was dictated. Now as far as the transfer 1242 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 2: portal thing with Dion, so a couple of things here. 1243 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 2: You know, he's not the only team to do the 1244 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 2: last year, USC did something like this, right. USC was 1245 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 2: able to flip forty fifty players, and they obviously had 1246 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 2: a great season. The difference is Lincoln Riley was a coach, 1247 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: is a coach that has had five straight eleven to 1248 00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 2: win seasons. He's a coach that that has been to 1249 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 2: multiple playoff appearances. His coach had infrastructure kind of already 1250 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 2: in place for a lot of these things like and 1251 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Riley also brought over a heis and winning quarterback. But 1252 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 2: also USC the core of their offensive line was already 1253 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 2: at USC. Three of the three other five starters, but 1254 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 2: the three best offensive linemen were already at USC. Twoy 1255 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Twoy Polotu was drafted fifty fourth overall. He led the 1256 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: country in sacks last season. He was already at USC, 1257 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 2: so they had some players there. Colorado was obviously starting 1258 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 2: from scratch. They've turned over seventy players and it's a lot. 1259 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 2: It's a lot of turnover, but to be fair, be good. 1260 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 2: Organs has like fifty players this year. They've turned over 1261 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 2: like they're not the only team doing it just the 1262 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 2: color was doing it very loudly. And the question becomes, 1263 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: can you can you fit all these personalities with all 1264 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 2: these sort of different agendas for every player? Right Like 1265 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 2: some player are there for three or four years. Some 1266 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 2: players are there like more like mercenaries and they're there 1267 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 2: for one year. You know, some players are all there 1268 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: for different reasons. Can you get them to unify behind 1269 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 2: the buffalos, right behind the team and it kind of 1270 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 2: put together this team. But also I think you need 1271 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: to have players you develop as well, because you have 1272 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,479 Speaker 2: to have players that have kind of that that core 1273 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 2: of what you of what you want your team to be, 1274 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 2: and that you develop them from from high school. You 1275 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 2: have a good balance between the players you've developed in 1276 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 2: your system and the transfers. And Colorado right now is 1277 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 2: only only transfers, right Like they're only guys. And I 1278 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 2: know that's some from Jackson saying I get that never 1279 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 2: been done this level before. Andy, I just they have 1280 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 2: a lot, they have a lot of talent. The deficienies 1281 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 2: of Colorado, But. 1282 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I ask you this. I mean there's Dean go to 1283 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: a player A and say I don't want you here. 1284 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: You're not going to play for me get out. 1285 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So they call it processing in college football. 1286 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because I was not a proponent of 1287 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 2: open transfer. I didn't I saw this coming. We talked 1288 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 2: about this, you know, for years on my show and 1289 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 2: I and my radio coast can back me up. I said, 1290 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 2: when you open transfer, this is what's gonna happen. And 1291 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 2: he and the pushback was, well, the major guys aren't 1292 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 2: going to transfer. It's only going to be for you know, 1293 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 2: lower level players and the fund opportunities. And it hasn't 1294 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 2: happened that way, right, everyone's transferring, So it was always 1295 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 2: gonna end up in this way. We're just transfer transfer 1296 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 2: transfer trancer, trying to find the best place, and again 1297 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 2: it's not the best place. Is sometimes just stayed at home. Man, 1298 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 2: It's sometimes it is. And I think for a lot 1299 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 2: of the quote old heads, like I'm not even that old, 1300 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 2: but guys that play kind of in this pre transfer 1301 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 2: being able to work through and kind of fight through 1302 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 2: tough times. Like there were times in college where I 1303 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 2: probably if transfer was allowed, I probably would have transferred. 1304 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm a better person and I 1305 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 2: learned how to deal with conflict and learn how to 1306 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 2: deal with adversity better because I had to stay in college, 1307 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 2: stay in organ i should say, and fight through some lisations. 1308 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 2: I had issues in my offensive line. Coach wed to 1309 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 2: work through those and I became a better communicator with 1310 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 2: my coach, and that helped me in the NFL. I became, 1311 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 2: you know, I understood what it took to really excel 1312 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 2: at a high level. I don't think I knew that 1313 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 2: sometimes in Orgon, but I learned kind of the hard 1314 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 2: way because my coach pushed me in that way and 1315 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 2: I had to kind of figure out, you know, what 1316 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 2: what was needed for me to be successful. And you 1317 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 2: just you come out the other side, you know, with 1318 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 2: with a better standing of who you are and and 1319 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 2: more confident individual. And you know, now guys are obviously 1320 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 2: transferring as sue as they're told, uh, they're not going 1321 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 2: to play. But I get it because when Deon comes 1322 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 2: to you, and and Dion so far has been the 1323 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 2: bluntest of this. Right, We've heard them, you know, we've 1324 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,919 Speaker 2: heard articles when the players just don't like you're being cut. 1325 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 2: If a coach tells you, like, hey man, you're not 1326 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,439 Speaker 2: going to play here. I get why players are leaving. 1327 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 2: I get it. But when the portal became a thing, 1328 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 2: the argument, one of the arguments was this gives power 1329 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 2: to the players, right, Andy, power the players. They get 1330 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 2: to transfer and the coaches can't talk down to them. 1331 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 2: The coaches can't hold them back because they on their own. 1332 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 1: When you're when you're told to get the hell out, 1333 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: it's a different story. Right, And I'm starting at University A, 1334 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 1: and I don't like the coach. I could go to 1335 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: go anywhere I want to go. 1336 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Right. So, now though, it's turned into empowering coaches, right 1337 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 2: because again it was supposed to empower the players, but 1338 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 2: now coaches are telling players all over the country and 1339 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 2: not as blunt as Dean is. And I don't blame 1340 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Dean all for doing this, because everyone's doing this saying hey, man, 1341 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 2: like you aren't gonna play here, you gotta leave. That 1342 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 2: wasn't the case three years ago. Couldn't do that, and 1343 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 2: now you can. 1344 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 5: And so. 1345 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 2: It's a lot differently with camp now. And I obviously 1346 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 2: this was this was never intended, but it was always 1347 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 2: gonna happen this way. It was always gona happen this way. 1348 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 2: There we go. 1349 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. 1350 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: This guy felt to round six, but can he still 1351 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: be a gem? That's coming up next on Fox Sports 1352 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Sunday Live for the tiraq dot Com studios. But first 1353 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: the man himself he'll never transfer. Brian Finley with the update. 1354 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: I got a stump, thank you, Andy. I want a 1355 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: mature guy. 1356 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 4: That's another good one there. I want to throw those 1357 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 4: in here on this early Sunday morning. But yes, we 1358 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 4: do have some NBA action to get to, guys. The 1359 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 4: Lakers with a throttled finish and a win against the 1360 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 4: Warriors one twenty seven and ninety seven as they get 1361 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 4: it done in Game three in that second round Western 1362 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 4: Conference playoff series, and it is two games to one 1363 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 4: in favorable Los Angeles. Lebron James had twenty one points 1364 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 4: and uneventful twenty one points, eight rebounds and eight assists. 1365 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 4: As Jeff mentioned, did not Lebron have a field goal 1366 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 4: attempt in the opening quarter and wasn't much of a 1367 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 4: factor in the fourth quarter. The Heats are winners last 1368 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 4: night against the next one to five to eighty six, 1369 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 4: so Miami out in the Eastern Conference and their second 1370 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 4: round playoff series has a two games to one edge 1371 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,919 Speaker 4: over in New York and Jimmy Butler in this latest game, 1372 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 4: thriving with his twenty eight points and ten made free throws. 1373 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 4: Second round NHL postseason, the Oilers dismantle the Golden Knights 1374 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 4: five to one in a Game two, with four goals 1375 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 4: in that first period for Edmonton equates to the series 1376 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 4: being tied up at a game apiece. Major League Baseball, 1377 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks holding off the Nationals eight to seventy a 1378 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 4: walkoff win for the d Backs. The Dodgers get a 1379 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 4: two run home run from Chris Taylor that was enough 1380 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 4: offense to tame the Pandres two to one. That bet 1381 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 4: Go Park. The Rangers scold the Angels ten to one 1382 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 4: behind fifteen hits from Texas. Phillies lose again, that's six straight, 1383 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 4: this time against the Red Sox seven to four. They 1384 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 4: continue on with their winning streak. Braves over the Orioles 1385 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 4: five to four. Kevin Plahar had that pinch at home 1386 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 4: run of the eighth inning that made the ultimate difference 1387 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 4: in the game. The Pirates, like the Phillies, another team 1388 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:28,439 Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania, suffering a six game skid as they get 1389 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 4: trampled on by the Blue Jays eight to two. As yes, 1390 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 4: the Pirates have lost. 1391 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 3: Six in a row. 1392 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 4: And I'll leave you with this, Andy, the Reds coming 1393 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 4: up with a win five to three against the now 1394 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 4: eleven and twenty three White Sox. But we all know 1395 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 4: that a win for Cincinnati they don't come very often 1396 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 4: when you're talking about the Reds. So they'll take it 1397 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 4: back to Andy and Jeff. 1398 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much seeing it now. But it was 1399 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: a crash landing to that. In a minute, we've crossed 1400 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 1: the fifty online what we call Fox Sports Sunday of 1401 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwitz, I mean Firman and 1402 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: were brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy, 1403 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 1: had affordable, got a multipolicy discount by combining a motorcycle, RV, boat, 1404 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: ATV and more, all your protection in one place. Bundle 1405 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: and save at Progressive dot com. We got bottom Barrel 1406 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Benning coming up in about eight minutes from now, and 1407 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: I got to ask, well, first of all, this just 1408 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,719 Speaker 1: dawn on me. We're talking about like the steroids in baseball. 1409 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: Go back for a second. There was a glaring, glaring bump. 1410 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,799 Speaker 1: I remember back at nineteen seventy three, when Davy Johnson 1411 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: was playing second base for the Braves. He had forty 1412 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 1: three homers in nineteen seventy three. Prior to that, in 1413 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 1: his fourteen year career, he had never hit more than 1414 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 1: fifteen home runs in a year. So I think that 1415 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: was a big bump. And a lot of people say 1416 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: this because the steroids with Davey Johnson's just throwing it 1417 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 1: out there. 1418 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,600 Speaker 2: I do you remember, yeah, in nineteen seventy three, I 1419 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 2: do remember that. Yeah, that was a big year for him. 1420 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 2: It was. 1421 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, next question I got for you this transfer situated 1422 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 1: transfer portal. Okay, I'm player a deon saying this comes 1423 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: to me gets in my faces. You know what, you stink. 1424 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't want you on my team. Get your locker, 1425 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: clean it out, get the hell out. All right? Fine, 1426 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: what do I do? I put my head between my legs? 1427 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: How do I get a job? How do I go 1428 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: to another school? 1429 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 7: What do I do? 1430 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 2: You're to the portal? You help someone calls the yes. 1431 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, all the major schools have basically 1432 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 2: general managers now, so the general manager's job is and 1433 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 2: they have someone in charge of the portal too, is 1434 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,560 Speaker 2: to obviously check the portal and to make sure that 1435 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 2: you know that you have, you know, the opportunity to 1436 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 2: to bring in new players. So Colorado just uh a 1437 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 2: tight end just transfer out to Colorado made the headlines 1438 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 2: last week because it was a tight end that just 1439 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 2: transferred into Colorado in January, transferred back out and you know, 1440 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 2: like I saw Organ offered them already. Like it's just 1441 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 2: the jobs these schools is to look at their rosters 1442 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 2: Luca's in the portal and try to find new players. 1443 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 2: And the players are communicating via direct messages on Instagram, 1444 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 2: on Instagram and Twitter. You know, they keep the coaches 1445 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 2: contact information from when they were being recruited in other schools. 1446 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's this constant communication between player and former coach. 1447 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 2: Hey like hey, man, like you remember me, You're recruiting 1448 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 2: me two years ago. Can I are you looking for 1449 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 2: someone to him? But there's any But there's a lot 1450 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 2: of players in the portal that never never are in 1451 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 2: the same level of football, right, So there's a lot 1452 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,720 Speaker 2: of players go from Power five or at the Power 1453 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 2: five conferences, the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big twelve, 1454 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 2: the a SEC, the Pac twelve, and they go down 1455 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 2: a level. Right, they go down to which is fine, 1456 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that. They go down to the 1457 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 2: group of five level, and the group of five players 1458 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 2: are transfer Often, if you're good enough, you might get 1459 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 2: pulled up, but often you're going back down to the 1460 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 2: FCS level. There's a lot of players in the boat 1461 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 2: of like just not finding a great, great place to 1462 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 2: be and sticking out would be best. But again, if 1463 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 2: your coaching staff says you have to leave, you have 1464 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 2: to go. There's eighty five scholarships. They're using them for 1465 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 2: the eighty five players they want there. And this is 1466 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,679 Speaker 2: the undertaking consequence of the transfer portals. Coaches telling players 1467 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 2: we're processing you out. You're out of here, buddy, You're 1468 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 2: not gonna play. We're gonna find something else that we want. 1469 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: So it's like free agency in the NFL. But here's 1470 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: the question of the day. Really, you get to the 1471 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 1: school like the University of Cincinnati, you know they've been 1472 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,600 Speaker 1: in a group of five. Next year they go to 1473 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 1: the big twelve. All right, So there's so cold general manager. 1474 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 1: This guy is in judge of the portal. He has 1475 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 1: to have the eye of saying, wait a minute, we 1476 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: need a better stock of players. Here than what we 1477 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 1: had in the group of five. We're going to the 1478 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: probably the best football conference in the country, well second 1479 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 1: best at SEC. 1480 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I mean Cincinnati's gonna have to get 1481 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 2: better players. There's gonna be adjustment period in this kind 1482 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 2: of new this kind of new new realignment. You know, 1483 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Utah went through this when I went from Mount West 1484 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 2: to the Pac twelve, where it took like four years 1485 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 2: to get the necessary to compete in the Pac twelve. 1486 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 2: I think Cincanni's gonna have that same issue in the 1487 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 2: Big twelve. It's just you need you need different players. Man, 1488 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 2: it's a different level of competition. A lot of times 1489 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 2: it's in the trenches right the offen theive defensive lines. 1490 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 2: It's depth. It's find those depth players having a too 1491 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 2: deep across the defensive line. And that's just a major 1492 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 2: difference in a step up in competition, especially in your conference, 1493 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 2: is having the players in the trenches to compete week 1494 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 2: in and week out. So it makes SEC so difficult. 1495 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 2: But also that's why we get a lot of often 1496 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,679 Speaker 2: the defensive linemen in the draft from the SEC, because 1497 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 2: guess what, they're playing the best each week. They're playing 1498 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,560 Speaker 2: guys they're gonna be in the NFL each week, and 1499 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 2: I think it's hard when a player in a conference, 1500 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 2: you know that that doesn't get the opportunity to play 1501 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 2: against the pros each week and get one or two 1502 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 2: opportunities in the entire season. Eight's those opportunities. 1503 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So you got Cincinnati going to the Big twelve, 1504 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Houston's gonna go to the Big twelve as well. Are 1505 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 1: there enough players to make those teams competitive in that league? 1506 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 2: Uh, we'll find out. But here's what. So this is 1507 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 2: where the portal does help out, right, because you you 1508 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 2: can take players from schools in the group of five 1509 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 2: or even you know, from a school like Georgia Alabama, 1510 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 2: like they're not a I'm not getting playing time at 1511 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 2: Georgia Alabama. I'm coach Cincinnati. You That's that's where the 1512 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,639 Speaker 2: portal helps the school like the Bearcats, to get more 1513 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 2: talented because from chol you're not your your high school 1514 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,599 Speaker 2: recruiting is probably not gonna see that much of an 1515 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 2: uptick go with the Big twelve, but your transfer portal 1516 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 2: is where you kind of fill in the roster holes. 1517 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Got you all right, It's gonna be very interesting. I mean, 1518 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: I just won't want to be a kid be told 1519 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 1: by Dean Sanders, get the hell out that would They'll 1520 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 1: break my heart, really would. 1521 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 2: But I mean it's it's the way the college sports 1522 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 2: is now and again again the tight end that they 1523 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 2: just let go is getting off for by organ I 1524 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,640 Speaker 2: mean it feels like an upgrade if you if you 1525 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 2: end up even Colorado to go play at Oregon. So 1526 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 2: it works out in the end for for you know, 1527 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 2: for some of the players, I can't say for a 1528 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 2: majority of them, but enough end up with a success 1529 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 2: story that it makes it to where everyone else thinks 1530 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 2: that they can be the success story as well. 1531 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. 1532 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: This game can truly be a heartbreaker. We call it 1533 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 1: bottom barrel betting, and it's all yours next, Hey, bottom 1534 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: barrel betting, let's play it's bottom bottom Milt. 1535 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 3: Funny to sleep people, get my money. 1536 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: I'll put your brain to sleep. Betty, Yes, it is 1537 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: the man aments it all happened the Biggie Ethan Miller. 1538 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 5: Hell, AI glad to be here. I want to get 1539 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 5: this out of the way. Brian wanted me to make 1540 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,639 Speaker 5: a joke about you being a jockey. But I think 1541 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 5: that's messed up because I think I'm as small as you, 1542 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 5: so I don't condone that joke. 1543 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 3: Why can I be a jockey, You're huge, You're not jockey. 1544 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 3: What would he be? Andy? 1545 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: That'd be the whole? 1546 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: A lion tamer, really, circus, I. 1547 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 3: Mean the Clydesdale a lion teamer. That's good. 1548 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 5: I like that one, all right, guys, Listen, Andy went 1549 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 5: four and one last week. Jeff, you went three and two. Jeff, 1550 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 5: I need a big week out of you. 1551 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Jeff three. 1552 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I had a winning week. I'll take it. 1553 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, but like the last couple of weeks 1554 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 5: you've lost to Andy and you usually beat Andy, so. 1555 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean my Swedish handball needs some brushing 1556 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 2: up and I get it all right. 1557 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 3: Sorry, this week it's Spain, so it's Spanish. Okay, here 1558 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 3: we go. 1559 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 5: We're gonna start with darts, though I know you guys 1560 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 5: love the darts, the European Tour. We got Lou Humphreys. 1561 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a spread minus two and a 1562 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,800 Speaker 5: half versus Andy Baitans plus two and a half Andy 1563 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 5: o Baitans Bays. 1564 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,639 Speaker 2: I think I think that darts. You always take the underdog. 1565 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,799 Speaker 2: That's I've been told, so I'll take the plus money, 1566 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,599 Speaker 2: dear person. Okay, wait, wait two and a half. 1567 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 3: It's two and a half baitans, what do you I don't. 1568 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:01,639 Speaker 1: Know what that means. 1569 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 2: He has to lose by two points or less. 1570 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 3: Yep, sure, yeah, why not. 1571 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm not taking big Luke cool hand, Luke go with 1572 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Luke Man. Really, I'm gonna start looking these names up. 1573 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, looks them up, Luke Humphreys, check them out? 1574 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 1: All right? 1575 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 3: Boxing, we're going to boxing domain here. Yeah. 1576 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1577 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,680 Speaker 5: Jason Maloney versus Vincent astrawbo. I can't pronounce his name 1578 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 5: Astra LABBYO. 1579 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,719 Speaker 1: What do you do this to yourself? Is really because 1580 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 1: you can't. 1581 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 3: Find names that are easy to pronounce. 1582 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Jason Maloney as an Australian boxer. 1583 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,879 Speaker 5: There you go, There I go too, Vincent Astra LABBYO. 1584 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 5: I don't know what ethnicity this guy is a S 1585 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 5: T R O L A b I O Astra LOBBYO. 1586 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 3: How do you pronounce? 1587 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 2: They're they're fighting in Stockton, California. 1588 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is it today to go? 1589 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 2: There's more horses, there's more cows. There there are people Okay, 1590 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,640 Speaker 2: so we're picking this the winner straight up? 1591 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 3: Straight up? 1592 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'll go with Maloney because he actually has a 1593 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,759 Speaker 2: Wikipedia page. The other guy doesn't. 1594 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 1: So you see, here's the problem. He gives you so 1595 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 1: much time to look it up. That's the problem. I 1596 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 1: think time limit to make the ads. 1597 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,080 Speaker 2: I figure maybe my my age and my use of 1598 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 2: the computer skills is probably more of the reason why 1599 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 2: they able to pick the. 1600 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 5: Week. 1601 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,599 Speaker 1: I go with the big a Estralabio going with him. 1602 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 2: They're fighting for the vacant w B Abandon title. 1603 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,640 Speaker 1: How many people you think will be at that boxing. 1604 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 2: Event Stockton Arena next Saturday night. I mean, I'm I'm 1605 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what else to do. And there isn't 1606 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 2: Stockton on a Saturday night. I imagine a lot of 1607 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 2: people are there. 1608 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 1: I would think if they serve beer, to be a 1609 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 1: lot of people there. 1610 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, you guys are ready for this one. 1611 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,759 Speaker 5: It's a little change up because we're in the times 1612 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 5: of twenty first century. In twenty twenty three, we're going 1613 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 5: ea sports, We're gonna game. Yeah, call of Duty. It's 1614 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,799 Speaker 5: the only game that's happening today. 1615 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Does Jeff play that you play Call of Duty? 1616 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 2: Uh? No, I have a life. 1617 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Well, your kids probably played. 1618 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,240 Speaker 2: My kids did not play Call of Duty. My son 1619 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 2: is eight and a half. That's a little young for 1620 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 2: Call of Duty. 1621 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little iron Okay. 1622 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 5: Well, anyway, we got the Los Angeles Gorillas versus the 1623 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 5: Florida Mountaineers, and we're going money line. I don't even 1624 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 5: know what that means, the money lining call of duty, 1625 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 5: But I. 1626 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Mean I was call of Duty. Modern Warfare two was 1627 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 2: my jam. I love. I liked it. I mean that's 1628 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 2: modern Warfare. Was like I used to play that game 1629 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 2: with like ten years ago. I love Modern Warfare. You 1630 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 2: all got my hometown Los Angeles team? How about that? 1631 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 3: All right? 1632 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 1: The big A you let the Gorillas, I'm going with floor. 1633 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I like the Mountaineers. I just don't let the name Gorillas. 1634 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 1: For some reason, it just it turns me off. I 1635 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 1: don't think anybody should be called the really, you know, 1636 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 1: I just don't like it. I like the Mountaineers right 1637 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 1: on the cricket, like West Virginia the Mountaineers. 1638 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,600 Speaker 3: I like it, all right? Uh the I p L 1639 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 3: I get does anybody know what league that is? 1640 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,679 Speaker 1: I guess it isn't that a beer? 1641 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 3: I p ls No, I p A, but you know 1642 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 3: it's fine, Clo. 1643 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that. 1644 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 3: That's good. Try all right. 1645 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 5: I've had the Mombay Indians on a couple of times. 1646 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,640 Speaker 5: So I got the Mambay Indians versus the Rural Challengers. 1647 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 1: And what what is it? 1648 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,799 Speaker 3: Cricket? I p L cricket. 1649 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 5: It's national I guess. I don't want to say. It's 1650 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 5: like I don't want to in the national league. Yeah whatever, Jeff. 1651 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 2: Whom my team? Who my team? 1652 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 3: It's either the Mambay Indians or the Rural Challengers. 1653 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 2: Oh I a goo challenger, Give me a challenger, okay, 1654 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,280 Speaker 2: and I'll go with Mambay. 1655 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,400 Speaker 1: You know the world challenges to me is it's too 1656 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 1: wide of a spectrum. Mambay. It's one city. I guess, 1657 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,599 Speaker 1: one group of guys and that's it's us. 1658 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 3: Stick with them, all right. 1659 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 5: One more Grand Rollers versus Akata and Handball Andy Go 1660 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,919 Speaker 5: Real Quick, Grandwall, Grandwall, Grandwall. 1661 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 2: Jeff, whatever the other one was, I couldn't hear because 1662 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 2: the back time was going on. 1663 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 1: All right? Was he the right choice? We'll explain that 1664 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: in just a minute. This is Fox Sports Sunday on 1665 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Hey is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman, 1666 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 1: and we are broadcasting live from the ti iraq dot 1667 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 1: com studios tierraq dot com. We'll help you get there 1668 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 1: and the match selection fans, free shipping, free road has 1669 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 1: a protection and over ten thousand recommended installers ty rack 1670 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 1: dot com. The way tire buying should be NBA live 1671 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: and in color right now. They got two games today today, 1672 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 1: Boston Philly playing today, and of course we have the 1673 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 1: seventy six Ers with their MVP. We have Denver and 1674 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 1: Phoenix as well. And I guess the question is Joel 1675 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 1: Embiid made the league MVP. My question is this I'm 1676 01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 1: not to get into. Did he deserve it or not? Why? 1677 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:04,720 Speaker 6: Why? 1678 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Now? Why would they announce it during the playoffs? Why 1679 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 1: not wait till it's all over to have a separate 1680 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: announcement for him at that point in time. 1681 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think they liked They liked the optics of, 1682 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 2: you know, getting the opportunity to celebrate this at home. 1683 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean, how great was that with the sun and 1684 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 2: kind of the you know, the sixers crowd cheering from 1685 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 2: I think that's why they do that. They do it 1686 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 2: so there's an opportunity for the player to be celebrated 1687 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 2: on his home for nothing. 1688 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, Uh, do you think he deserved the award? 1689 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 1: All right? 1690 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 2: And you also also wagering on him too, so that 1691 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,680 Speaker 2: was okay. I think he deserved the award, you know, 1692 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,759 Speaker 2: just the all around game he was able to display. 1693 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 2: It's just felt like like the Nuggets especially it wasn't 1694 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,919 Speaker 2: and of course jokers, you know, part of the Nuggets, 1695 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,120 Speaker 2: but the last couple of months they obviously put much 1696 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 2: better than the postseason. They kind of just like stopped 1697 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 2: trying a little bit, especially on defense, and I think 1698 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 2: Embiid was able to kind of take over the MVP 1699 01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 2: race during that during that time. 1700 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,360 Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, So today we got Boston against the seventies 1701 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,560 Speaker 1: sixes and I mentioned this earlier that I think this 1702 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,800 Speaker 1: is Boston's Yeah, and you know, you talk about which 1703 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 1: teams are going to win it all, because certainly Milwaukee's 1704 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 1: bounced out and they were a number one seed. I 1705 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 1: don't think it's the most talented team's going to win. 1706 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 1: I think the team is the healthiest. The healthiest team 1707 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 1: would probably win that. And right now we see teams 1708 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: breaking down because of health factors. 1709 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about Boston is is they just have 1710 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,840 Speaker 2: stretches of games we were like, oh, like what we 1711 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 2: what are we doing? Guys? And they're the deepest team 1712 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, but they just have like they just 1713 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 2: have moments where it is it's not good Andy, Yeah, right, 1714 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 2: like too many moments where you're like, oh, man, like 1715 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 2: what are we doing now? And they have one of 1716 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 2: those games. Because again they're the most their deepest team 1717 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and they've also dominated Philly for most 1718 01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,760 Speaker 2: of the seasons. This is not surprised I imagine saying 1719 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 2: they win again. I think Philly comes out probably pretty 1720 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 2: pretty hot early and something's pull away late. But there's 1721 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,200 Speaker 2: just something about Boston where I just they're up against 1722 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:17,280 Speaker 2: the Nuggets, the Warriors, the Lakers. If you're inconsistent like that, 1723 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 2: Can you win an NBA championship that way? You know? 1724 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 1: I will tell you this much. I think they have 1725 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 1: the talent to win it all. I think they should. 1726 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 1: I looked at that game the other night, if he 1727 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 1: was Friday, and that against the seventy six has six 1728 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 1: guys in double figures. 1729 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. 1730 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know where the scoring comes from Philadelphia. I mean, 1731 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 1: Harden was tremendous. In the first game he stung up 1732 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 1: to joined. The second game they played, he scored sixteen, 1733 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 1: but you know he couldn't at the outside of a bond. 1734 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,599 Speaker 1: I understand the consistency factor, as you mentioned with Boston. 1735 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,719 Speaker 1: I think it's almost like that with all these teams. 1736 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,439 Speaker 2: Really yeah, well yeah, but but I think for Boston 1737 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,200 Speaker 2: it seems more glaring because a lot of people will 1738 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,799 Speaker 2: put them as like the like the Lakers can't score. 1739 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well they had that problem this year 1740 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 2: at times right where they can't shoot. But Boston, the 1741 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,280 Speaker 2: potential is so high for them because of as you mentioned, 1742 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,519 Speaker 2: the depth and the players they have that when they 1743 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 2: have those lolls, it feels even bigger than other teams 1744 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,000 Speaker 2: who go through those moments. When they have those moments, 1745 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 2: it didn't feel quite the same. 1746 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you say again we talk about that term of expectations. 1747 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,599 Speaker 1: Why the coach of Milwaukee got fired because they were 1748 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 1: number one. Everybody expected them to either go to the 1749 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 1: finals or win it all. I think there's a similar 1750 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 1: situation right now with Boston, although there were two seed 1751 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,760 Speaker 1: not a one seed, and I think that people are 1752 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 1: expecting Boston to win it will the coach get fired 1753 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 1: if they don't, I don't think so. 1754 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,840 Speaker 2: Well, But also thirty three in his first year because 1755 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:47,520 Speaker 2: of what happened with Imidoku. They're the I mean, they're 1756 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 2: the home seed now right because the first seed lost 1757 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,519 Speaker 2: and Miami again, Miami is going to beat the Knicks. 1758 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 2: I just Miami's just not deep enough to be Boston 1759 01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 2: over a seven game series. So I think Boston is 1760 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 2: most likely going to end up in the finals. And again, 1761 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 2: who they play, It appears to be Denver right now. 1762 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,800 Speaker 2: It's playing some some really good basketball. They're kind of 1763 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,599 Speaker 2: a filling as they're healthy now for the first time 1764 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,240 Speaker 2: in the playoffs in a couple of years. They're fulfilling 1765 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,080 Speaker 2: kind of their their destiny. It feels like this year 1766 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 2: and getting to the NBA Finals. 1767 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we talk about that Denver Phoenix series. I 1768 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 1: look at that game the other night and KD puts 1769 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 1: in thirty nine, Devin Booker scores forty seven. This team 1770 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,080 Speaker 1: shot fifty percent from the field. I mean, you just 1771 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 1: look at the stats. Fifty percent for the field, thirty 1772 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 1: two percent from threes. I mean, and again we talk 1773 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: about superstars to talk about guys that are tremendous plays 1774 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 1: that maybe you pay to watch. I would put on 1775 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,559 Speaker 1: that list. Obviously, Steph Curry's there. I think Jimmy Butler's 1776 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 1: another guy I want to see play. I'm putting Devin 1777 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 1: Booker on that list as well. 1778 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 2: The Suns have one way to win this is it. 1779 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 2: Forty seven from Booker and thirty nine were going direct. 1780 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:03,720 Speaker 2: That's it. If those guys score eighty points, yeah they're 1781 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,639 Speaker 2: gonna win, or really ninety in this case, near ninety points. 1782 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 2: If they score seventy two points, we're not gonna win 1783 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 2: the game. So it feels quite simple for this series. 1784 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 2: The Nuggets are gonna score as much as they want 1785 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,719 Speaker 2: anytime they want. Their defense not as good. At certain 1786 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 2: times they have been better than the playoffs. If Kevin 1787 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:32,800 Speaker 2: Durant and Booker can score ninety points, okay, but good 1788 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,680 Speaker 2: luck doing that all the time. I mean, that's a 1789 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 2: that's a heavy, heavy, heavy heavy bar to clear Andy 1790 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,280 Speaker 2: every game. To need eighty ninety points from two players, 1791 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 2: I agree to have a chance to win where Denver 1792 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,760 Speaker 2: can get that from four players or five players, I 1793 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 2: think they had. To your point, you said Boston had 1794 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 2: six players in double figures. I believe in Game two 1795 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 2: Denver had six players double figures as well. So again 1796 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 2: or maybe it was game one, can Phoenix. I don't 1797 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 2: think they can do this again tonight or today. 1798 01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think I think Denver has 1799 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 1: more ways to beat you. That's the keating Michael cord 1800 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,680 Speaker 1: at junior at twenty one and twelve. The other day, 1801 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Jokis thirty seventeen boards, seventeen assists, Jamal Murray thirty two, 1802 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 1: Bruce Brown off the bench he had eleven, So just 1803 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,880 Speaker 1: so many ways. And again Phoenix, and then we talked 1804 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,040 Speaker 1: about the expectation factor. I don't think it's really there 1805 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,640 Speaker 1: in Phoenix. Was they entered as a four seed, and 1806 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 1: I think maybe that change when they obtained Kevin Durant. 1807 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,720 Speaker 2: But the expectation is to win a championship, there's no. 1808 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,320 Speaker 1: There's no I think everybody when you're in the playoffs, 1809 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 1: I think that's everybody's expectation. But as far as public 1810 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 1: consumption on that, maybe when KD came aboard it changed 1811 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. 1812 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 2: It did, But I do think again it is worth 1813 01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 2: pointing out that, you know, it does take some time 1814 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,560 Speaker 2: in basketball for chemistry to form right and if you 1815 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 2: watch like the Warriors play man, the way they move 1816 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 2: the ball and the way that they play with each 1817 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,800 Speaker 2: other and make kind of the extra pass, and the 1818 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 2: way they rotate on defense, and they have different ways 1819 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 2: to score. That's just the chemistry right this Clay and 1820 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 2: Steph and Draymond team. The Sons have played like twenty 1821 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:27,680 Speaker 2: games with Chris Paul and Booker and Kevin Durant. It 1822 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,640 Speaker 2: just it takes time. And yeah, the expectations are I 1823 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,160 Speaker 2: believe correct and NBA Tower of Bus this year, but 1824 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,799 Speaker 2: also have Durant in this core for another couple of seasons. 1825 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 2: So even though it might not work this year, I 1826 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,200 Speaker 2: think you give them a full offseason, a full training camp, 1827 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:49,120 Speaker 2: a full year. I think they will benefit from this 1828 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,559 Speaker 2: next year and will probably play better basketball next year 1829 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 2: than they are now. 1830 01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at the playoffs as a whole, 1831 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,200 Speaker 1: and there's not really one team that kind of glaringly 1832 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 1: stands out, and I wouldn't be surprised if anybody wins it. 1833 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, if the Lakers, if Golden State, then did 1834 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 1: there's a Sony. Again, there's no one that's really out there. 1835 01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,320 Speaker 1: And again I'll go back to Thursday night when the 1836 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 1: Lakers were playing Golden State and the Lakers really stuck 1837 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,040 Speaker 1: up to joint. I tell you fans deserve better. That's 1838 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 1: stunk after the third quarter right there, I should the TV. 1839 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:20,040 Speaker 1: It was embarrassing. 1840 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:25,920 Speaker 2: Last night wasn't great. I think that the Lakers again, 1841 01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 2: like we thought about different ways to win. The Sons 1842 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 2: have one way to win, Booker and and and a half. 1843 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,599 Speaker 2: Booker and you're gonna have to have eighty ninety points, 1844 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 2: right the Lakers, you know they if AD's got twenty 1845 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,439 Speaker 2: five points, are gonna win most games, right, and they can't. 1846 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 2: You can't lose an a D game where he plays well, 1847 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,360 Speaker 2: you know, when Russell has order Russell ended up. 1848 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 1: With last night over twenty twenty one one in the 1849 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:50,679 Speaker 1: first AF. 1850 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 2: Like, when you have those games, the Lakers are gonna win. 1851 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,559 Speaker 2: But you're very reliant on a D having twenty five 1852 01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 2: points and thirty points. If if is not you gonna 1853 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,960 Speaker 2: have that, I'm gonna win because Lebron is thirty eight 1854 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 2: years old with sixty seven thousand minutes. I think it is. 1855 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 2: You're just you're not gonna Lebron can't do it every 1856 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,880 Speaker 2: night today like well, you had last night twenty two points, 1857 01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,680 Speaker 2: twenty three points. I think he has not scored more 1858 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 2: than what twenty two point in the game in the 1859 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:24,800 Speaker 2: playoffs this year, maybe right. 1860 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,679 Speaker 1: But you know what, and I think he's realizing, yes, 1861 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 1: I can't do it every night. I need the rest. 1862 01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,639 Speaker 1: But more than that, they changed it when the trade 1863 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: deadline was there in February when they got D'Angelo Russell. 1864 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,760 Speaker 1: Reeves has come aboard. Davis is healthy that he's playing, 1865 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,439 Speaker 1: so he has other outlets right now to help him. 1866 01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,240 Speaker 1: It was all him before. As you mentioned earlier. He 1867 01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,599 Speaker 1: didn't take a field goal shot in the first quarter 1868 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:47,759 Speaker 1: at all yesterday. 1869 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:52,439 Speaker 2: But I don't think but I just don't think he can. 1870 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:59,599 Speaker 2: He can't physically do it for the level again. At 1871 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:05,080 Speaker 2: some point, Andy, no matter how incredible of a freak 1872 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,280 Speaker 2: athlete you are, and Lebron obviously is, at some point 1873 01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,519 Speaker 2: it just becomes you just age kicks over. And you 1874 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,680 Speaker 2: know last night, you know when he was making those 1875 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 2: hustle plays, especially on the defense, he was chasing down 1876 01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 2: the ball game. He was gassed, dude. And this is 1877 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 2: Game three and they get one day off and they're 1878 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,760 Speaker 2: playing again tomorrow now, So it's not this is not 1879 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,160 Speaker 2: all slight Lebron because he still is able to obviously 1880 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 2: have moments where he is incredible in the court, but 1881 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,280 Speaker 2: he's not going him for forty anymore. He's just he 1882 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:37,800 Speaker 2: might have one game where he does that. But also 1883 01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 2: his three point shooting is not is not good right now, 1884 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,920 Speaker 2: so he's not even making some of those shots you 1885 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 2: sort of need, I think at times to get to 1886 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 2: forty points. It's just not what he's not what his 1887 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,840 Speaker 2: game is going to be anymore. That's why a D 1888 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 2: is there, so why they brought it to your point 1889 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:53,240 Speaker 2: about Russell. But when the Lakers have games where a 1890 01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,400 Speaker 2: D and a third party, whether it's Russell or how 1891 01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 2: Chamore or Austin Reeve or someone else, is able to 1892 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,519 Speaker 2: score in the twenties, they're not going to lose many games. 1893 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: They're just not right, you know what. And that's great 1894 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 1: and it's great to break it down like that, But see, 1895 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,680 Speaker 1: I think I have a different point of view though 1896 01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I tell you why, and you're right about the Lebron situation. 1897 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,120 Speaker 1: But yesterday the Lakers shot and this is amazing. It 1898 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,560 Speaker 1: won't happen again. I promise you you won't see this 1899 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,920 Speaker 1: in any playoff game. Begin with them, they shot over 1900 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,160 Speaker 1: fifty percent from the field forty two for eighty that's unreal. 1901 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,000 Speaker 1: Then they shot fifteen for thirty one from three for 1902 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:25,519 Speaker 1: forty one. 1903 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 2: That's what you won't see the three points. 1904 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,680 Speaker 1: You won't see that, and you won't see from the 1905 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Golden State thirteen for forty four from three for twenty 1906 01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,920 Speaker 1: nine percent. It was to day it was bathed. It's 1907 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,120 Speaker 1: one of those nights. So I think at the end 1908 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,760 Speaker 1: of the day, I think that Golden State probably will 1909 01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,040 Speaker 1: win the series. I'd love to see the Lakers win 1910 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,559 Speaker 1: it because I know you love the Lakers. That's one 1911 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,280 Speaker 1: of the reasons. But more than that, I'd like to 1912 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 1: see Lebrono. I really like to see it go further 1913 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:50,439 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. 1914 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,400 Speaker 2: The Warriors, though, are just so much fun to watch. 1915 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,320 Speaker 2: I they really are, and you know, them continuing to play. 1916 01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,200 Speaker 2: It's just a fun branded basketball to watch. 1917 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Baseball should be played. 1918 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, what Steph Curry. Just the ability of Steph Curry 1919 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,360 Speaker 2: to just create offense. You know, the Lakers are doing 1920 01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,640 Speaker 2: everything they can to double him, to hedge screens and 1921 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,800 Speaker 2: to make life tough for him. His ability to pass 1922 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:15,599 Speaker 2: the ball, it's just it's fun to watch him play. 1923 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,800 Speaker 2: The Lakers Game three, Game four is gonna mean a lot, right, 1924 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,040 Speaker 2: If they can steal game four, you feel pretty good. 1925 01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 2: If it goes back to Golden State, at back up 1926 01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:29,439 Speaker 2: to Oakland and San Francisco, now to to if it 1927 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 2: wass a seven game series to me, and then at 1928 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,680 Speaker 2: seven game you know, and maybe in game seven we 1929 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,200 Speaker 2: get Vintor's Lebron He says, look, you know what's what 1930 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 2: we've been waiting for. I'm going for forty tonight and 1931 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 2: the Lakers win. But we haven't seen that from Lebron. 1932 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,360 Speaker 2: And it's okay. He's getting older. It's okay if he 1933 01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,120 Speaker 2: has the Knights where he says, you know what's while 1934 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,840 Speaker 2: we brought in all these players. We brought in these 1935 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,040 Speaker 2: guys so they can supplement what I can do on 1936 01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 2: the court. 1937 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,560 Speaker 1: Now, now I'm gonna dump on the whole situation. To me, 1938 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,680 Speaker 1: these playoffs, in my mind, it seemed like to've been 1939 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,200 Speaker 1: going on for years. It's just to me, I think 1940 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,880 Speaker 1: it's too long. Maybe I'm crazy. I mean, how do 1941 01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,720 Speaker 1: you feel about that? I just I think like they're 1942 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,240 Speaker 1: never ending. 1943 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a whole different season and the NBA 1944 01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,000 Speaker 2: purposely does that obviously, right for ratings and whatnot, to 1945 01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 2: get people more interested in the sport. I mean, it's 1946 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 2: a whole other season, right, It's three months, three months, 1947 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:24,519 Speaker 2: right right, and it's a long season, and it feels excessive. 1948 01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,280 Speaker 2: But I don't know, Andy, I'm never gonna say no 1949 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:29,400 Speaker 2: to watching more sports. 1950 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you there, And it's a different game. They 1951 01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:36,479 Speaker 1: step it up playoff basketball, playoff baseball, playoff period is 1952 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,439 Speaker 1: a different element. They step it up. All these athletes do. 1953 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,679 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's fair, not only to the fans, 1954 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 1: but to the athletes themselves. As I said going into 1955 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,360 Speaker 1: the segment, it's the team that's the healthiest is going 1956 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,000 Speaker 1: to win, not necessarily the best. And the more games 1957 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,320 Speaker 1: you play during the year, the more chance of injury. 1958 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,040 Speaker 2: Right. Well, then the argument is do we make the 1959 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,880 Speaker 2: regular season shorter? Right? 1960 01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean we talked about this early on. I 1961 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 1: think the early rounds of the players should be best 1962 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,880 Speaker 1: three out of five. That stuff gonna happen. 1963 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 2: Again, No, it's not gonna happen. But you know, I 1964 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 2: understand NBA players want in the season short because of 1965 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 2: the playoffs are so long, and I understand their point 1966 01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,400 Speaker 2: because it's so it's a haul to play the postseason. 1967 01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:18,200 Speaker 2: But the injury thing, andy is in every sport, right, 1968 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, football, you look at the at 1969 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,400 Speaker 2: the healthiest teams in the offer of the teams playing 1970 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. You look at you know, baseball. 1971 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,760 Speaker 2: Obviously it's a little different situation. But you know, if 1972 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 2: you're if you're starting pitching is intact in the postseason, 1973 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 2: you're you're probably in a pretty good ship, right if. 1974 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,519 Speaker 1: You But I don't want to see the Miami Heat 1975 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 1: losing and they said, well, if we would have had 1976 01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:39,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, I don't want to see Phoenix losing. Well, 1977 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 1: if Chris Paul would have played, we would have won. 1978 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,799 Speaker 2: Sure, But Chris Paul's heard every off season, every postseason, 1979 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,120 Speaker 2: so it doesn't really change anything, right, So, like, I 1980 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,680 Speaker 2: get those excuses are built in when when teams are 1981 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 2: are are out, but I don't know, they're just excuses 1982 01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,120 Speaker 2: right in the end. So I don't know, I don't 1983 01:35:55,160 --> 01:36:00,519 Speaker 2: really I don't care if if people make those excuses whatever. 1984 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,360 Speaker 1: I hear you, Okay, all right, here's Jeff Schwartz. If 1985 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to hear about excuses, get him on 1986 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,519 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jeff Schwartz ge O f F Schwartz at 1987 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,880 Speaker 1: Andy Furman FSL. We'll read him, we'll retweet him, and 1988 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 1: the phone lines are for you, all yours, They're open 1989 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,479 Speaker 1: for you. At Age seven, seven ninety nine on Fox 1990 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,240 Speaker 1: eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine. 1991 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,320 Speaker 1: They got the blame game at the end of this album. 1992 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 1: Right now, America's team is running on empty. 1993 01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,040 Speaker 2: That's next. 1994 01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,560 Speaker 1: Where's the one two punch that's coming right up? He 1995 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,599 Speaker 1: is Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports 1996 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,679 Speaker 1: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio Live from the tay Iraq 1997 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,360 Speaker 1: dot Com studios, and we talk about America's team. I said, 1998 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,519 Speaker 1: they're running on empty. Why is it that they're still 1999 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 1: being called America's team? They can't even win a playoff 2000 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,120 Speaker 1: game and they're still America's team. Are you surprised about that? 2001 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 2: The Cowboys? 2002 01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2003 01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who is? Who is America's team? 2004 01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:58,240 Speaker 5: Now? Like? 2005 01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,200 Speaker 2: Who who would you? Who would you volunteer a. 2006 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:04,719 Speaker 1: Good question America's team about football sticking the football? I'd 2007 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,240 Speaker 1: have to say maybe the Kansas City Chiefs. 2008 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,920 Speaker 2: It has to be the Chiefs. Yeah. I do think 2009 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,479 Speaker 2: that the country is generally rooting for like the Bills 2010 01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,679 Speaker 2: to in like in the Bengals, to like win a championship. 2011 01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:18,920 Speaker 1: Though you think, yeah, well maybe what happened with DeMar 2012 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's gonna be I. 2013 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,240 Speaker 2: Think the Bills, like I think that the Bills with 2014 01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:28,080 Speaker 2: all their failures in the nineties, and I think people 2015 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,000 Speaker 2: are are like just I feel like that there's a 2016 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 2: big like Bills and now with the Bengals. People like 2017 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:41,560 Speaker 2: to see not underdog, but they sort of are in 2018 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,760 Speaker 2: a sense. They don't see underdogs win men, and. 2019 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 1: So they want to see new faces too. 2020 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,439 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, key, and so I think that the 2021 01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,639 Speaker 2: Bills and Bengals are are going to be are kind 2022 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:55,679 Speaker 2: of maybe adopted as America's new America's team. 2023 01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that America's team. The Moniker I think 2024 01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 1: is been getting tarnished a little bit in Dallas. It 2025 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 1: really is. They gotta be, yeah, I really do. But 2026 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,479 Speaker 1: they've got a pretty good story going on here. At 2027 01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,920 Speaker 1: the end of the draft, the Dallas Cowboys, they draft 2028 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,200 Speaker 1: they're running back Deuce Vaughan. His dad is the assistant 2029 01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:18,000 Speaker 1: director of scouting for the team Dallas. Really and maybe 2030 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm mistaken on this, but They've always been identified with 2031 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,360 Speaker 1: the run game, and now they released Ezekiel Elliott back 2032 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,479 Speaker 1: in March. Although Twelfthy maybe coming back, I don't think so. 2033 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,320 Speaker 1: And they're missing that one two punch with Tony Pollard. 2034 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,360 Speaker 1: Vaughn is a sixth round pick out of Kansas State. 2035 01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,160 Speaker 1: This kid's five foot five. Yeah, I don't even know 2036 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,120 Speaker 1: if it's going to make the team. Well what are 2037 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 1: they doing there in Dallas. 2038 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 2: Well, he's a late round pick. You can take chances 2039 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 2: on on late round picks. That feels okay to do. 2040 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,160 Speaker 2: You know the thing about Dallas, it's it's frustrating, is 2041 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,880 Speaker 2: like they're very talented and even the NFC right now 2042 01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,559 Speaker 2: and you go Eagles Niners, who don't have a quarterback 2043 01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,920 Speaker 2: really healthy at the moment, and then who but the 2044 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys are next. The Cowboys are really talented, but they 2045 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 2: never put it together. Man, they just never put it together. 2046 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,800 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think that's really the hard part 2047 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,760 Speaker 2: about about picking them each year is you're like, man, 2048 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:16,960 Speaker 2: they are a talented team, but for whatever reason, it 2049 01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,120 Speaker 2: never goes their way. And part of it, I think 2050 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:23,599 Speaker 2: is that dak is, you know, not elite, just good 2051 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:28,599 Speaker 2: and they just had haven't had that playoff success recently. 2052 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:30,880 Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm gonna put you on the spot. Not 2053 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:32,759 Speaker 1: that I want to, but I'm gonna do it anyway. 2054 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Now that Aaron Rodgers is out of the NFC, who 2055 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:40,120 Speaker 1: were the who was quarterbacks one and two in the NFC, 2056 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 1: the top two quarterbacks in the entire NFC, I'll give 2057 01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:45,960 Speaker 1: you my picks. Should I go first? 2058 01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's gotta be Jalen Hurts and Dak Prescott, right. 2059 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,000 Speaker 1: I would say Jalen Hurts and Kirk Cousins. 2060 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2061 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:56,040 Speaker 1: Cousins is so like they look at his stats, right, 2062 01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:58,000 Speaker 1: Cousins is. 2063 01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:07,240 Speaker 2: Just he's so just Kirk Cousins, Like you know it 2064 01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:14,080 Speaker 2: just he just doesn't inspire that confidence that you're going 2065 01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:18,080 Speaker 2: to win a championship with him, right. And I think 2066 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:21,000 Speaker 2: that's the hardest part about about him is is, yeah, 2067 01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,719 Speaker 2: the stats are good sometimes, but his record in primetime games, 2068 01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 2: his record in the playoffs, he's won one playoff. 2069 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,439 Speaker 1: Game, you lose it to the Giants. 2070 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 2: Didn't help in his Vikings career. So it's just really 2071 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,880 Speaker 2: hard I think to I agree that he probably doesn't 2072 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:44,000 Speaker 2: get the amount of attention he should for the play 2073 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,000 Speaker 2: that he has during his career. But the hard part 2074 01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 2: is I think a lot of us sort of know 2075 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,400 Speaker 2: the end game in Minnesota, like, oh yeah, yeah, they're 2076 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:55,920 Speaker 2: gonna a lot of record hit games, but they're not 2077 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:56,839 Speaker 2: do anything the postseason. 2078 01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:58,960 Speaker 1: He got a whole attention for it for lack of 2079 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,040 Speaker 1: COVID vaccination than as a quarterback. 2080 01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:06,000 Speaker 2: Really, so how much attention are we going to put 2081 01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,880 Speaker 2: into caring about the Vikings? And caring about cousins and 2082 01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,880 Speaker 2: the Lions seemed way more fun than the Vikings? Do 2083 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 2: you know the Packers obviously, you know Jordan Love. I'm 2084 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:24,559 Speaker 2: curious how their season goes. The Bears, you know, justin Fields. 2085 01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:26,639 Speaker 2: Their roster is just not quite there at the moment, 2086 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,760 Speaker 2: but Fields to be fun to watch. The Vikings just 2087 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:31,640 Speaker 2: we we fuck, we know the endgame we go to 2088 01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,519 Speaker 2: the regular season, are can we win playoff games? How much? 2089 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:38,320 Speaker 2: How much emotional investment are we gonna put in the Vikings? 2090 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:38,680 Speaker 5: Right? 2091 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 1: But but it's funny because we both picked the same 2092 01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: two teams. Basically, have you picked Dallas but we both 2093 01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,519 Speaker 1: bypassed San Francisco because they don't have a quarterback, right, 2094 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,640 Speaker 1: there's a big quarterback question. But look where they did 2095 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,360 Speaker 1: look how far they went without a quarterback. 2096 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 2: So you're obviously of a much different agent than me. 2097 01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,439 Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing. Just the facts, everyone, old guy, 2098 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:05,240 Speaker 2: you know, I can't remember I came in the NFL 2099 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,280 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. I cannot remember a team since 2100 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:11,240 Speaker 2: that two thousand and eight there's been as talented as 2101 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,760 Speaker 2: the Niners that doesn't have a quarterback to win a championship. 2102 01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,760 Speaker 2: The Niners win total right now, I saw it was 2103 01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,559 Speaker 2: posted eleven and a half. At the current moment, they're 2104 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,880 Speaker 2: starting like as Sam Darnold, okay, because brock Party is 2105 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,160 Speaker 2: hurt and Trailing is hurt. Even if brock Party comes back, 2106 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,040 Speaker 2: he's not going to play the level he played last year. 2107 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,200 Speaker 2: And their win total is eleven. The Chiefs win total 2108 01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 2: is eleven and a half, the Bengals and Eagles. So 2109 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 2: to the four teams eleven and a half. Winter what 2110 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,280 Speaker 2: are the Bills? I believe the or ten and a half. 2111 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look up. Yeah, I think they're let's see, 2112 01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:50,719 Speaker 2: uh win totals. 2113 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:51,080 Speaker 5: Here we go. 2114 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,120 Speaker 2: This is not this is post this is pre draft. 2115 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,000 Speaker 2: So look look a here we go. This is probably 2116 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:03,519 Speaker 2: post draft. Would we say Bills ten and a half. Yeah, okay, yeah, 2117 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:08,680 Speaker 2: so yeah, Bengals eleven and a half, Chiefs eleven and 2118 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,960 Speaker 2: a half. And then I said the Eagles are only 2119 01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,559 Speaker 2: ten and a half and the Niners what not. He's 2120 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 2: my eyeball eleven and a half of the Niners. 2121 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,719 Speaker 1: But those but those stats are ridiculous. Post the NFL 2122 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 1: schedule hasn't even come out yet. They don't even know 2123 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:23,000 Speaker 1: who they're playing. 2124 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,800 Speaker 2: No, I mean we know who they're playing, we just 2125 01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:26,639 Speaker 2: don't know when they're playing. 2126 01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:30,320 Speaker 1: Then well, okay, fine, but the when can. 2127 01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:35,160 Speaker 2: Matter as far as travel schedule and injury and injuries 2128 01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 2: and off of by like like who do you play 2129 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:38,800 Speaker 2: off of buye when's you're by? And how much are 2130 01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,600 Speaker 2: you traveling? Or what? We all you having back to 2131 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,800 Speaker 2: back road trips? Are you having back to back trips 2132 01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,599 Speaker 2: across the country? Are you're playing, you know, the early 2133 01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,559 Speaker 2: game on the West coast, I mean the East coast. 2134 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 2: I should say, like, there's there's things that that you 2135 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,600 Speaker 2: can look for in the schedule that I think you 2136 01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,400 Speaker 2: give you a little bit of a hint on on 2137 01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:00,720 Speaker 2: what how a team might do it. 2138 01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,800 Speaker 1: So, so, how can these people give San Francisco double 2139 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:06,680 Speaker 1: digit wins? When they don't have a quarterback. 2140 01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 2: Because their roster is that good. They have they have 2141 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:14,680 Speaker 2: a an elite player almost every position. Okay, left tackle, right, 2142 01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:19,240 Speaker 2: Trent Williams, best left tackle in NFL, Christian McCaffrey, Deebo 2143 01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,720 Speaker 2: Samuel right. So you have elite level players at the 2144 01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,400 Speaker 2: wide receiver position. In the running back you have. You 2145 01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:28,800 Speaker 2: have Bosa at pass rusher Armstead as well, so you 2146 01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,040 Speaker 2: have two elite pass rushers right there. You have Fred 2147 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:35,679 Speaker 2: Warner possibly the best linebacker in the NFL. 2148 01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:37,840 Speaker 5: Like you have. You have. 2149 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,679 Speaker 2: All these players that are the best of their position 2150 01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:47,760 Speaker 2: on one roster. That's why. And they can figure out quarterback, 2151 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,880 Speaker 2: which again I don't think that brock Parties the guy 2152 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:51,599 Speaker 2: to lead them. 2153 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,200 Speaker 1: What was the last team and I'm trying to think 2154 01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:58,000 Speaker 1: now the last team that really had tremendous personnel but 2155 01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,080 Speaker 1: didn't have an elite quarterback or warback period that won something. 2156 01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, really. 2157 01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:09,360 Speaker 2: It's no one. So Earl Marrow like Bolts, No, I 2158 01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,760 Speaker 2: mean you you could look at like, you know, like 2159 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,240 Speaker 2: the you know, the Dilfer Bucks or something right, right, 2160 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,280 Speaker 2: but that's it's years ago, right, or the who was 2161 01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,200 Speaker 2: there was was he with the Bucks or with the Ravens. 2162 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,479 Speaker 2: Who was the Ravens quarterback in early two thousands that 2163 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:25,280 Speaker 2: won the title, the first Ravens championship that was Dilfer? 2164 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 2: Was that Delfer who didn't matter? But something like that, right, 2165 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 2: like you just you're just hoping that that you know 2166 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,640 Speaker 2: that everything breaks right for you. But the problem is 2167 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,360 Speaker 2: is everything has to break right for you against either 2168 01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,760 Speaker 2: Mahomes Burrow or Allen or Herbert or Trevor Lawrence or 2169 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:49,280 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson in in in the postseason, in the Super 2170 01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:49,720 Speaker 2: Bowl like it. 2171 01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you something funny. You mentioned those great 2172 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,200 Speaker 1: quarterback you mentioned like Borrow, God forbid it he goes 2173 01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 1: down or Alan goes down. Those teams don't win. But 2174 01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco is so strong without a quarterback, this still 2175 01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,520 Speaker 1: predicted to win. Think about that, ye can her Borough 2176 01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,320 Speaker 1: or Allen go down? Forget if the season o tlams. 2177 01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,400 Speaker 2: But you're also but the Niners an't winning a championship 2178 01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:13,280 Speaker 2: either with the quarterback they have now and so but 2179 01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,960 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and Bangles and Bills and whatnot, their quarterback 2180 01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:17,680 Speaker 2: gets hurt. Yeah, they're not winning either. But if the 2181 01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,559 Speaker 2: quarterback says healthy, they are winning, they have a chest 2182 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:20,839 Speaker 2: to win. It's it's just a big difference. 2183 01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:25,120 Speaker 1: There you go. Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday, 2184 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,400 Speaker 1: Fox Sports already brought to you by Discover. 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Brian Finley with all 2191 01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,479 Speaker 1: your sports the only thing that I exploded on both. 2192 01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:51,960 Speaker 1: Thank you Andy and Jeff. 2193 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,719 Speaker 4: And yes, last night we did see the Lakers dominate 2194 01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:56,920 Speaker 4: the Wars one twenty seven and ninety seven a Game 2195 01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,320 Speaker 4: three of their second round the NBA Playoffs series out 2196 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,000 Speaker 4: of the Western co First Lebron James did have twenty 2197 01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,960 Speaker 4: one points, eight rebounds, eight assists, so he had a 2198 01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,120 Speaker 4: decent stat line, but he also celebrated yesterday his son, 2199 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:12,240 Speaker 4: Bronni James, committing to USC and playing his college basketball. 2200 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,040 Speaker 4: They're under head coach Eddie Enfield. LA is now ahead 2201 01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,160 Speaker 4: in this series two games to one. Which is the 2202 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,439 Speaker 4: same lead that the Heat have in the second round 2203 01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,240 Speaker 4: of the Eastern Conference matchup against the Knicks. After a 2204 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,599 Speaker 4: one h five to eighty six victory for Miami back 2205 01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:28,600 Speaker 4: by the twenty eight points from Jimmy Butler, who was 2206 01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,519 Speaker 4: done of eleven from the free throw line, Miami has 2207 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:33,840 Speaker 4: taken two of the first three games of that series. 2208 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,799 Speaker 4: And as far as the NHL, we had one playoff 2209 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,160 Speaker 4: game last night and it was the Oilers dismantling the 2210 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,280 Speaker 4: Golden Knights five to one in a game two four 2211 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,400 Speaker 4: goals scored by the Edmonton Oilers in that first period 2212 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,920 Speaker 4: de equal things at one game a piece. As far 2213 01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:55,200 Speaker 4: as the Major League Baseball workaround is concerned, the Dodgers 2214 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,280 Speaker 4: are winners against the Padres last night. Chris Taylor had 2215 01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,240 Speaker 4: the two run blast that was the difference, and that 2216 01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:03,439 Speaker 4: one Diamondbacks winning to walk off eight to seven against 2217 01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,680 Speaker 4: the Nationals. Phillies loses sixth straight as they go down 2218 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:08,960 Speaker 4: to the Red Sox seven to four despite a home 2219 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,800 Speaker 4: run from Bryce Harper as he works his way back 2220 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,920 Speaker 4: into the fold after the injury, Braves hang on against 2221 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,599 Speaker 4: the Orioles five to four. Kevin Plar hit that pinch 2222 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,040 Speaker 4: hit home run in the eighth inning to turn things 2223 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:24,439 Speaker 4: around four Atlanta. They are now twelve games over five hundred. 2224 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,960 Speaker 4: The Red Sox come away with a win against the 2225 01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,920 Speaker 4: White Sox five to three. Pirates lose a sixth straight 2226 01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:34,160 Speaker 4: as the Blue Jays torture them eight to two. And lastly, 2227 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,720 Speaker 4: the Yankees find a eight to win, which has been 2228 01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,040 Speaker 4: hard to do in Tampa considering how all the Ras 2229 01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:43,280 Speaker 4: are playing. Three to two the final score there slot 2230 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,880 Speaker 4: me around a little bit with that. Let's get it 2231 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,840 Speaker 4: back to Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman. 2232 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,880 Speaker 1: Well, this guy's always on top. There we go. Thank you, 2233 01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:54,400 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, Brian. Hey, they should have moved 2234 01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,320 Speaker 1: up just a little bit more. That's right around the corner. 2235 01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:58,600 Speaker 1: He is Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Furman, and we are 2236 01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,680 Speaker 1: live from the ti rack dot com studios, and we 2237 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:03,559 Speaker 1: talk about the blame game. We'll have that in about 2238 01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,400 Speaker 1: seventy eight minutes from now. No, don't talk about the 2239 01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,080 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. Okay, Now, if they win, they 2240 01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:09,640 Speaker 1: didn't have much of a quarterback. I don't think much 2241 01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,800 Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones. I'm surprised they signed them to the 2242 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,160 Speaker 1: long term deal. But they did, but the Giants were 2243 01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,680 Speaker 1: a playoff team last year. They beat Minnesota in Round one. 2244 01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,000 Speaker 1: The Giants traded up in the first round. They had 2245 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:21,599 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth pit. They slit up a spot. They 2246 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:25,040 Speaker 1: took quarterback The Banks from Maryland. But the Giants didn't 2247 01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,000 Speaker 1: invest in quarterback Daniel Jones. And I think he needs 2248 01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,760 Speaker 1: more and better weapons, That's what I think. Well, they 2249 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,200 Speaker 1: did get tight end Darren Waller, so that's. 2250 01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:37,080 Speaker 2: A protect En director Jaylen Hyatt drafted a center for 2251 01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:44,200 Speaker 2: him this year. Look, you're the Giants were in a 2252 01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:48,000 Speaker 2: tough spot because what do they do right? Like, you 2253 01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 2: can't let Jones walk because who what are the options? 2254 01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:53,400 Speaker 2: You don't have options if you let Jones walk, what 2255 01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:57,479 Speaker 2: are your options? I think you hope, you hope that 2256 01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,599 Speaker 2: you know. Last year Zones settled down with the turnovers right, 2257 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,840 Speaker 2: he played more consistent football and he turned the ball 2258 01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:10,639 Speaker 2: over less. I think you hope with with better weapons 2259 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,439 Speaker 2: around him second year in the offense that we see 2260 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,160 Speaker 2: this big jump from Daniel Jones. 2261 01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:17,559 Speaker 3: Is it likely? 2262 01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:18,800 Speaker 5: Uh? 2263 01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:23,479 Speaker 2: Possibly, but probably not. I think he Daniel Jones is 2264 01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:27,400 Speaker 2: what he is. And I think you just you hope 2265 01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:29,920 Speaker 2: that you your playoff team last year with a roster 2266 01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 2: that wasn't terribly good. You upgrade the roster, and now 2267 01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 2: you have a chance to do some special things, you hope. 2268 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't see what Jones could be wrong, obviously, but 2269 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:43,080 Speaker 2: we don't see a lot of quarterbacks in year four, five, six, 2270 01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,519 Speaker 2: and seven all of a sudden become elite. 2271 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about elite quarterbacks for a second, 2272 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,800 Speaker 1: if I may. We were talking about trying to think 2273 01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 1: of teams that maybe have won with on an elite quarterback. 2274 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,360 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong here. I'm very fuzzy with my memory. 2275 01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,519 Speaker 1: I don't even know what day it is today, nineteen 2276 01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,280 Speaker 1: sixty nine. I believe the Minnesota Vikings won it all. 2277 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,920 Speaker 1: They beat the Cleveland Browns. I think maybe I'm wrong. 2278 01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,000 Speaker 1: Maybe someone can help me. I think Joe Kapp was 2279 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings. Am I is that? 2280 01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:13,439 Speaker 2: Is that a ring ability? Are you asking the thirty 2281 01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,559 Speaker 2: six year old for help on that one? Are you? Well? 2282 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:17,920 Speaker 1: You're the the You're the NFL buff You should know 2283 01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:18,840 Speaker 1: I am. 2284 01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,439 Speaker 2: I'm unaware of the Viking starting quarterback in nineteen sixty nine. 2285 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:25,720 Speaker 1: I didn't google I'm gonna google it. I think it 2286 01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,679 Speaker 1: was Joe Capp, but still at all they won. 2287 01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,200 Speaker 2: And I don't think Jap is a cow as a 2288 01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,920 Speaker 2: former cow bear, I know that I believe, Yeah, but. 2289 01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't think Joe Capp. You you wouldn't say Joe 2290 01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:37,920 Speaker 1: Capp was an elite quarterback. But the quarterbacking back in 2291 01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,120 Speaker 1: sixty nine was a different animal. It was a running 2292 01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,599 Speaker 1: game back then. That's what the NFL was until Dan 2293 01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:43,439 Speaker 1: Marino came in. 2294 01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,559 Speaker 3: I can confirm he was a Viking in nineteen sixty seven. 2295 01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:48,719 Speaker 1: Seven. 2296 01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,840 Speaker 2: There we go, let's go look at you. Andy. 2297 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,559 Speaker 1: Uh, my mind is better back then than it was yesterday. 2298 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:55,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 2299 01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,719 Speaker 2: It's ingrained in your in your person. 2300 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,960 Speaker 1: I think you know what the difference may be back then, 2301 01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:06,040 Speaker 1: and that sounds really stupid. You watch games for the 2302 01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:09,280 Speaker 1: pure enjoyment. There was no pressure. Now, you watch games 2303 01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 1: because it's your job. Not that you don't enjoy it 2304 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:13,439 Speaker 1: as much I do, but you watch it in a 2305 01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:15,439 Speaker 1: different angle. What am I going to talk about? What's 2306 01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:15,960 Speaker 1: the story? 2307 01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:16,400 Speaker 2: Right? 2308 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:17,880 Speaker 1: It's a different animal now. 2309 01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,800 Speaker 2: Also, there were like eight teams back then as well. 2310 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it was. 2311 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:23,960 Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned because I was we had people 2312 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,240 Speaker 2: over last night for a little get together that my 2313 01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:29,320 Speaker 2: wife threw for a friend, and the Laker game was 2314 01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,000 Speaker 2: on and we were and I was, you know, watching 2315 01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:32,960 Speaker 2: the first quarter pretty intently. But then we kind of 2316 01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:34,760 Speaker 2: it was with some people. We kind of got up 2317 01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,600 Speaker 2: and walked around and they're like, how do you how 2318 01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:39,360 Speaker 2: do you like talk about the game tomorrow when you're 2319 01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:40,680 Speaker 2: not like staying in front of the TV for the 2320 01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:44,240 Speaker 2: entire game. I'm like, I'm watching the game, guys, I'm 2321 01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,880 Speaker 2: paying attention. Like even though like I'm not, like, you 2322 01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:51,920 Speaker 2: can still watch a game and and be social and 2323 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,240 Speaker 2: like even though it's for work, like you mentioned, you're 2324 01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:56,679 Speaker 2: watching a lot of you know, a lot of sports 2325 01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,880 Speaker 2: for work now, like you can still watch for working 2326 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,000 Speaker 2: and enjoy watching it and be social. 2327 01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not here to break down the game. 2328 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:06,479 Speaker 2: So I told said, I said, I'm not coming on 2329 01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,160 Speaker 2: the radio to be like in the second quarter, you 2330 01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,760 Speaker 2: see that that pivot Lebron made and they threw the 2331 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,720 Speaker 2: ball in the slot and they are great. M like, no, 2332 01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:13,560 Speaker 2: we ain't doing any of that. 2333 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:14,519 Speaker 1: Thank you. 2334 01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:15,080 Speaker 2: There you go. 2335 01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:19,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio. 2336 01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,519 Speaker 1: It is time it is tied to point fingers. Why 2337 01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,800 Speaker 1: the blame game is freaking next and coming right up. 2338 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,840 Speaker 1: It's about thirteen minutes now before the top of the hour. 2339 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,600 Speaker 1: By the way, at the top of the hour, that 2340 01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:32,880 Speaker 1: would be nine a m. On the East coast. Mike 2341 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,600 Speaker 1: Harmon and Dan Byer. What a duel with that is? 2342 01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,320 Speaker 1: Harmon to Bayer nine o'clock easton there. But right now 2343 01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,559 Speaker 1: it's time for the Progressive Player of the Day prize. 2344 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,200 Speaker 1: Subtle wins the draw already a four nothing lead in 2345 01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,320 Speaker 1: game two. Here's new Genoptis side of the net McDavid 2346 01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:53,960 Speaker 1: shorts and scores. Donner McDavid power play goal five nothing 2347 01:53:54,600 --> 01:54:00,439 Speaker 1: Edmonton the orders pouring it on in Sin City, Pouring 2348 01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,160 Speaker 1: on courtesy of the Edmonton oil Is Radio Network. That 2349 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,160 Speaker 1: was the Progressive Player of the Day, brought to you 2350 01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:08,840 Speaker 1: by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Got 2351 01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,560 Speaker 1: a multi policy discount by combuting your motorcycle, r the 2352 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,839 Speaker 1: boat ATV and more oil protection in one place. Bundle 2353 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,559 Speaker 1: and save at Progressive dot com. Right now, let's play 2354 01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:19,960 Speaker 1: the playing game. 2355 01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:24,240 Speaker 6: You ruin me. It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. 2356 01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:25,759 Speaker 4: What is all your fault. 2357 01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:33,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who knows, see the liar. That's 2358 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,760 Speaker 1: why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's figure 2359 01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,400 Speaker 1: out who to blame, all right, the big a Ethan 2360 01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:40,840 Speaker 1: handling the blame game. 2361 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,520 Speaker 3: All right, A lot to blame today, guys. 2362 01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,600 Speaker 5: To start off, the Warriors didn't even score one hundred 2363 01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:48,040 Speaker 5: points last night, ninety seven points. 2364 01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,480 Speaker 3: They lost by thirty to the Lakers. Guys, who's the blame. 2365 01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 1: Let's start Andy, I tell you why you gotta blame. 2366 01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,160 Speaker 1: It's not a blame, it's a column. And really, Anthony Davis, 2367 01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,560 Speaker 1: he was tremendous defensively, so he was the guy. But 2368 01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,320 Speaker 1: you shoot the way they did twenty nine percent from 2369 01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,920 Speaker 1: the floor, that's disgusting. I have forgot it. But one 2370 01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 1: finger on one person's chest. I'm putting it on Draymond Green. 2371 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,960 Speaker 1: Two points prothetic pathetic, Draymond pathetic. 2372 01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't his best and they just missed about 2373 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:21,080 Speaker 2: open shots. I think they just the blame is is 2374 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 2: the rim is the Staples Center, that is, they weren't 2375 01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,720 Speaker 2: open for the Warriors. Yeah, they dismissed bunch of open shots. 2376 01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know the ad was great in 2377 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 2: the paint. He made, he did he did, he did 2378 01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:33,800 Speaker 2: block up shots, and Lebron had some good effort plays 2379 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,600 Speaker 2: coming from behind the I think the effort on the 2380 01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:41,520 Speaker 2: Lakers felt at least watching the game, it felt like 2381 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,680 Speaker 2: the Lakers just had more effort than the Warriors last night. 2382 01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,320 Speaker 3: All right, here we go, NBA. This is an interesting 2383 01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:49,600 Speaker 3: I read this article this morning. 2384 01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:54,000 Speaker 5: The NBA takes an average of three and a half 2385 01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:57,600 Speaker 5: minutes to do replay reviews when they stopped the game. 2386 01:55:58,240 --> 01:55:59,800 Speaker 3: Now, I know this is a little challenging in you. 2387 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:03,520 Speaker 3: But who's to blame for this? The league, the refs. 2388 01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:06,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think you have to blame the 2389 01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,720 Speaker 1: referees because they want to make sure they get it right. 2390 01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it's disgusting. I think it takes away from 2391 01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,520 Speaker 1: the flow of the game. I'd like to see the 2392 01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,640 Speaker 1: human element there if the referee makes a mistake. For years, 2393 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,840 Speaker 1: refs have made mistakes, not intentionally, but that's part of 2394 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,520 Speaker 1: the game. It's human era. And when you stop the game, 2395 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,760 Speaker 1: it's like an additional timeout. If a team is on 2396 01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,760 Speaker 1: a run, they lose that momentum. I think it stinks. 2397 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:28,360 Speaker 1: And to tell you what, as far as the fans 2398 01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:31,160 Speaker 1: are concerned and watching it on TV. Normally the last 2399 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,880 Speaker 1: two minutes of a basketball game least twenty five minutes. 2400 01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:42,240 Speaker 2: I uh I, it's not as bad as thing as 2401 01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:47,160 Speaker 2: it used to be. I just think sometimes my point 2402 01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:50,080 Speaker 2: with the replay is, the game is not played in 2403 01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:56,000 Speaker 2: super slow motion. It's it's it's played in full speed. 2404 01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,000 Speaker 2: And when we have repair reviews where we're able to 2405 01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,320 Speaker 2: slow things down and and zoom in and analyze it 2406 01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:05,800 Speaker 2: to like degree, it's to me it's not what replay 2407 01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,040 Speaker 2: was was was tenni for Andy, that's our problem. 2408 01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,160 Speaker 1: I get it. You want to get it right. I 2409 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,400 Speaker 1: understand that, But there's a possibility that officially, look when 2410 01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,480 Speaker 1: you were playing, did they have replayed I don't remember 2411 01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,839 Speaker 1: when the yeah, I mean, but still there were referees 2412 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,360 Speaker 1: that god things even when it just it's just the 2413 01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,600 Speaker 1: way it is. I mean, I'm not into the waiting game. 2414 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 1: Just get it. Call it. If it's wrong, it's wrong. 2415 01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:33,120 Speaker 5: That's it, all right, Well here we go next, we're 2416 01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:36,320 Speaker 5: going to go to the hockey playoffs. Right now, the 2417 01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,520 Speaker 5: ratings are currently down six percent. Who's the blame for this? 2418 01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,440 Speaker 1: Andy? Just to support itself, I think hockey is not 2419 01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,920 Speaker 1: conducive for television. Is too fast. I think hockey itself 2420 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,120 Speaker 1: is too fast for TV. You know, years ago, I 2421 01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,560 Speaker 1: think they had like a different colored punk and had 2422 01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:53,920 Speaker 1: the line. I think it was on Fox. It actually 2423 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,960 Speaker 1: it's just the game is just not really meant f 2424 01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,839 Speaker 1: a TV. What makes football great several things, ambling aspect 2425 01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:03,160 Speaker 1: less is more because they play once a week, and 2426 01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,600 Speaker 1: the fact that it's on TV and it's great. Football 2427 01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,480 Speaker 1: is better on TV than in person. It really is 2428 01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:10,800 Speaker 1: hockey better in person than on TV. 2429 01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:15,680 Speaker 2: So right now we have Toronto in the postseason in 2430 01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:18,800 Speaker 2: Canada that they don't actually count for ratings, right the 2431 01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:23,480 Speaker 2: American teams are the Florida Panthers, the Seattle Kracking, the 2432 01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:28,640 Speaker 2: Dallas Stars, the Devils and Hurricanes. Do we have the 2433 01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,320 Speaker 2: City and the Golden Knights in Vegas? The Oilers are 2434 01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:38,240 Speaker 2: in Canada as well, obviously with the Bruins, Penguins, Rangers, Kings, 2435 01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:43,120 Speaker 2: like all the big city teams, the Blackhawks. They're not 2436 01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:45,280 Speaker 2: in the playoffs right now, of course, it's the ratings 2437 01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,960 Speaker 2: are down. I the Kracking are two years old, right 2438 01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:52,520 Speaker 2: like like the Knights are four years old. Like there 2439 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,520 Speaker 2: they don't have the fan base and that these other 2440 01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:00,680 Speaker 2: major programs have, and that's why it's down. You know, 2441 01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 2: where's New York City in this? Where's Chicago? Where's Los Angeles? 2442 01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,280 Speaker 1: The storyline was killed when the Bruins lost. 2443 01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, where the brute? Where's Pittsburgh? That that's why it's 2444 01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,120 Speaker 2: down when you don't have your your your your original 2445 01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:13,280 Speaker 2: six teams playing right? 2446 01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2447 01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,600 Speaker 5: All right, last one before we head out. I have 2448 01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,680 Speaker 5: this is pretty interesting, not really, but. 2449 01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:29,040 Speaker 3: The n L, the d L d H. 2450 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:34,280 Speaker 5: Was not around for fifty years and now it's around. 2451 01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:36,920 Speaker 5: So who was to blame for this fifty year holdout? 2452 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:41,240 Speaker 1: Andy Oh to blame? I think that the fact that 2453 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,240 Speaker 1: he wanted the pitchers to hit and they wanted more offense. 2454 01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,720 Speaker 1: So I think that the commissioner of Major League Baseball 2455 01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,000 Speaker 1: at the time said, we need more offense, so we 2456 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,720 Speaker 1: don't want the pictures hitting. Basically, they never take batting 2457 01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:54,160 Speaker 1: practice anyway, so it was a big deal that But 2458 01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:55,640 Speaker 1: do you know what, I think it was part of 2459 01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:58,080 Speaker 1: the game. I'm not really into the the ah. Sorry, 2460 01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:03,960 Speaker 1: no one to blame, alright, see you next week.