1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Arizona straight to the line. There's the snap to Murray. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Murray looks left pumps once looking looking a lot of time. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Now we throve and it didn't Something about a line 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: picked up that on the sideline, picks up a block 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: at thirty twenty five twenty Harmoni ten five and he's 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: spun out a pound right there. I say you twenty four, 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I see you. Welcome to the twenty Men in the 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Huddle Podcast Post Game edition. I am joined with PJ Clark, 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: my talented producer. Football guy does a lot of stuff 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: for the website. Follow him on Twitter and everything else. 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: If you don't already and impeach. You know, a fun game, 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: fun game, fun game. You know there's it's a preseason. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: You have to take all of it with a grain 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: of salt. You obviously wish for a better result, just 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: because that game it looked like the Lion's head rappers 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: the end and it's a mistake that does it. You know, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: you have to punt there and you know Atlanta comes 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: back with the miracle wins it. That's one thing. But 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: to be up twenty three, twenty two, two minutes to 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: go and you fumble us. Now they were in David 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: blow and now bam you lose that way. Obviously tough, 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: but there were a lot of good things that came 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: from this game. Maybe what's one of the biggest ones 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: for you? To me the guy that stood out the most. 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: I think it's Devin Funchis. I mean, he hasn't done 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: a lot of camp, He's been banged up a little bit, 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: but he came in still learning the tight end position, 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: a big body. You saw it on that fade from 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Tim Boyle. He's the only guy the Lions have that 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: you can throw that past two and use his body 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: and his size to get open in the back of 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: the end zone there. I think he was really impressive hurdle. 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: The guy had a bunch of catches. I mean he 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: was all over the place. That stuck out to me. 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting because the Lions are looking 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: for kind of some guys to emerge behind t. J. 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: Hockinson and for that number two and number three specially, 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: think brock Rice is going to be in the mix. 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Obviously he had a great end of last year when 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: he got an opportunity to play. But Devin Funchis is 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: an interesting one because look, he's had success. The guy 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: with an He's got a ton of experience. He's played 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver. The Lions are what standing up t J 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Hockinson now moving him around, trying to do different things. 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: So he kind of fits in that similar mold. Devin 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: Funch just does that. A guy that you can do 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: a lot of different things with. And it was great 48 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: to see him, you know, make the play in the 49 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: end zone into the fade and then the hurdle was 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: impressive too. He left hasn't played football in a long 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: time too, because he got injured his year in Indianapolis. 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: He opted out last year of COVID and and it's 53 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: good to see him back on the field and impressing. 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: And you know, live game action for the first time. Yeah, 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: talking about live game action for the first time. I 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: was really excited to see that first team offensive line. 57 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, obviously we know for the first time ever, 58 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: for the first time ever. Yeah, because Penny SIL's knew here. 59 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: But you look at last year, Taylor Decker gets hurt 60 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: the week before the regular season, right with that finger 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: hand injury. He misses the first half of the season 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: and then they lose Frank rag Now four games in 63 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: first play of the game Week four, Chicago ends his 64 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: season with a foot injury, so we never got a 65 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: chance to see those guys together. So I know it 66 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: was only pre season. I know it was only ten plays, 67 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: but it was pretty impressive. Like I had my eye 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: on Frank rag Now in the center and Boypeach, he 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: cleared some guys. They were moving, they were moving the ball. 70 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Jared wasn't touched. Jared finished three for four in this game. 71 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Um and the offense, you know, rush for thirty two yards, 72 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Jared at forty seven yards I think seventy nine yards 73 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: on ten plays went down and scored. It was balanced. 74 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: There was played together. They had, you know, a nice 75 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: play down kind of the seam out wide a little 76 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: bit tom on Ron Saint Brown on a boot after 77 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: a nice fake after they had established the run a 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: little bit. And that's what we've talked about with with Jared, 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: right when when him and Ben Johnson sat down to 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: create this offense, they said, look, we've got a top 81 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: five offensive line. We're gonna be able to run the football. 82 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: What did you do really well when we were when 83 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: you were with the Los Angeles Rams, We played, we 84 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: ran the ball, We played off play action and we 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: got guys open and we protected the quarterback. It's efficient, 86 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: that's the way to go about it. It is and 87 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: so you know, I thought that was really good. Great 88 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: to see for you know, Jared Golf for this offense. 89 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: But we weren't even supposed to see some golf. There 90 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: are some late breaking news this game. Why don't you 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: play the audio from Dan Campbell right after this game. 92 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: I'll say this about Golf, man, I was proud of him. 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: You know, we really didn't intend on playing him, And 94 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean he was the one who he came to 95 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: my office and said I want to play. And I said, well, 96 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: you're not playing, and he said, well, if they're playing, 97 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: i'm playing. And I said, okay, you're playing. So I 98 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: appreciate that about him though. And man, he went out 99 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: there and ran that offense. And that's really what you're 100 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: looking for out of your ones. You want you want 101 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: to see them play fast, efficient, moving down the field 102 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: and score touchdown, certainly to finish out the drive. So 103 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: I was pleased with them and that they they're talking 104 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: about there is his offensive line. Absolutely. Jared caught win 105 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: that the offensive line was going to play and he said, no, 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: look I'm playing with those guys, Like those guys bust 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 1: their butts every day for me, and if they're playing, 108 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm playing. And that's what you want from a from 109 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: a captain, from a leader. That's how you endear yourself, 110 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: not only do an offensive line, but to a whole team. 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: Right Yeah, I think, I mean, you know, I think 112 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: it's good that he played, for sure and got that experience, 113 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: especially those five guys out there for the first time 114 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: kind of the whole cohesive unit had to be done 115 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: and they look great and I'm not worried about that 116 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: side of the football at all with those guys. The 117 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: big question mark has always been how much of an 118 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: improvement can this Lions defense make, because that, to me, 119 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: page is really going to decide if this team can win, 120 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, a lot more than three games, a few 121 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: more than three games, or you know, whatever the win 122 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: total ends up to be, it's gonna be because of 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: the improvements of this defense. And it was a little 124 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: rough start in my opinion for this defense. You know, 125 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: they weren't able to contain the run Marcus Miriota, and 126 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: then you know, later Desmond Ritter were able to kind 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: of break contain get out of the pocket. I think 128 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: they combine for eighty two rushing yards in that first drive, 129 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: you know for Atlanta. Let me double check here. I 130 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: think it went was a seventeen play. They for a 131 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: long tiwn the field like converting some third downs. They 132 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: converted one third and eight with a run, I believe. Yeah, 133 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: they were just right up the middle to right up 134 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: the middle. It was just yeah, it was just yeah. 135 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: The first twelve plays eighty two yards, taking up nine 136 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: minutes and twenty seven. There were a couple of penalties 137 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: in there that that you know, Adan Hutchinson got in there, 138 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: drew a holding penalty that set them back, and they 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: got it right back and they were ready to go, 140 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: that first team Atlanta offense. Yeah, And the biggest thing 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: for me was just you know, when you look at 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: the stat sheet, you see one hundred and sixty eight 143 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: rushing yards for Atlanta with a five point eight average, 144 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: And when you look at last year, what was so 145 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: frustrating at times was all the yards that they allowed. 146 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I think they finished twenty eighth in the NFL, allowing 147 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: on average one hundred and thirty five point five. But 148 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: there had to have been four or five games in 149 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: there where there was a hundred fifty. There might have 150 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: been a couple of games where teams rush for two 151 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: hundred if I can remember correctly. It's just that part 152 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: of their defense has to be better, and you know, 153 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: you were hoping the you know, the switch to four 154 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: three being more aggressive playing on their side of the 155 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You'd maybe see that a little bit today, 156 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: don't know if we saw it a ton now. They 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: were missing Levi own Zaige and some of the other guys, 158 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and so it wasn't a full you know, so it's 159 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: again the preseason. You've got to take it with a 160 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: grain of salt, but you would have loved to see 161 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: some guys make a few more plays defensively. I think 162 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: that was maybe one of the disappointing things for me 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: in this game. Coach made a good point post game, 164 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: and it's something to keep an eye on, especially given 165 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: the Lions Week one opponent in Philly, a team that 166 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: came in here and rushed all over them last year. 167 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: But you don't really see a Marcus Mariotte in practice 168 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: if you're the Lions. You don't see a running quarterback 169 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: like at that point, Atlanta took advantage. Jalen Hurts took 170 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: advantage last year, So you gotta be ready for that 171 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: now week one coming down the pipe. So how do 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: you so, what do you do? I mean, how does that? 173 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: How you know Jared Golf isn't going to instantly become 174 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: a runner? You know, either's David Blow a situation where 175 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, when you're starting to prep for the Eagles, 176 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: you just put a you know, one of your speechers 177 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: back there. You put a guy a practice what guy 178 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: was speaking. You just drill that at that and you 179 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: work RPOs and you work contain I thought Atlanta, you know, 180 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: as much as you could game plan for a preseason game. 181 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: It certainly seemed like, at the very least for Mariona, 182 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: the running was a part of this because he saw 183 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: right away. I think it was one of the first 184 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: big games of his He saw Derek Barnes come up 185 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: the middle and he didn't even flinch. It was boom, 186 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: I'm out going. So yeah, I think that's a good 187 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: observation by you. But that's part of his game, you know, 188 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: that's some one of the things that makes him successful, 189 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: that made him successful early in his career. And I 190 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: was a little surprised by Desmond Ritter. I didn't know 191 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: he was kind of that athletic to get out in 192 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: the open space and get the yards that he got. 193 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: As those two are are built very similarly, have similar 194 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: athletic profiles. And if there was going to be a 195 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: guy for Desmond Ritter to sit behind, I think Marion 196 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: is a greatest one. And you saw a little little 197 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: of it, especially in that quarter he ripped off like 198 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: a twenty yard or just took off, rolled left and 199 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: had a bunch of open field. And that's you know, 200 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: the Lions have to do a better job. You know, 201 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: week two, you're you're playing Carson Wentz, another guy that's 202 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: not necessarily a runner, but to playing a lot of 203 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: running quarterbacks. That's the way the league's going. It is going. Yeah, 204 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: So it's something that we'll have to watch as this 205 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: training camp continues, as a preseason continues. You're looking for 206 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: little improvements, right, yeah. You just don't want to better 207 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: the bad things to repeat themselves. And so that's something 208 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell, Aaron Glenn will take a look 209 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: at and say, okay, now, next game, let's try to 210 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: contain these these athletic quarterbacks, These guys that can make 211 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: plays with their legs when they get the opportunity. You 212 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: mentioned Devin Funcius early, I thought another guy who had 213 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: a terrific game and no surprise, right, seems like every 214 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: preseasons mister consistent said it. We're talking about Tom Kennedy 215 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: and what was it eight catches for one hundred four 216 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: yards average, thirteen yards per game, the leading receiver of 217 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the preseason so far. Fun fact, look at you, here 218 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: you go, and I want to see say that was 219 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: the case at some point last year too, or he 220 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: had called that Pittsburgh game he had like ninety five 221 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: or something like that just in the in the single 222 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: game I think was his high mark. But he just 223 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: sho he shows up man, you know, and that's going 224 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: to be an interesting competition for me at least is 225 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: when it comes down. We expect Jamison Williams to probably 226 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: start the season on NFI. I think it's trending that way. 227 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: We'll see. You have that roster sponse, You've got a 228 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: roster spot right, and so Quintess c Fist has been 229 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: hurt here. It looks like he's kind of going to 230 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: be coming back soon. Trinide Benson's there Triny Benson made 231 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: some start. I think they're trying to see if he 232 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: gives them Scott special teams wise, and so I think 233 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: that's a way for him to earn a roster spot too. 234 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: But you know, a guy that we haven't talked about 235 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot, and you know, I'm guilty of this too. 236 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: I think I've been, you know, talking about quintest Fists 237 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: and Trinidie Benson and maybe them fighting for that last spot. 238 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: But I think Tom Kennedy, especially after listening to Dan 239 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: Campbell after the game, I think he's very much in 240 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the mix. And look, he made the team out of 241 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: training camp last year. You know, he you know, didn't 242 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: wasn't active every week. That took some time, but it 243 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: just seems like he's a guy that you know, you 244 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: always know where he's gonna be. Now he's a little 245 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: bit smaller, so the catch radius and some of the 246 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: other things you talk about as a quarterback loving that's 247 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: not there. But I think when you talk about Tom Kennedy, 248 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he can do some gadget stuff for you, 249 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: and then he's just dependable, reliable, He's always there. I 250 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: think there's on the football you'll make a catch. There's 251 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: something to be said for him making the team last 252 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: year and being here and still sticking around to even 253 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: you know, make that throw in the Green Bay game 254 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and week A team last year. I think there's something 255 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: to be said for him getting in on the ground 256 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: floor of this program and what Dan Campbell is trying 257 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: to build. And I think I think Dan's gonna have 258 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: some loyalty. He's a Dan Campbell's kind of guy, right, 259 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: That's what it seems like. It just he does. He 260 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: doesn't say much. He just puts his head down, he 261 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: goes to work, and anytime you throw in the football, 262 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: he gets and he gets open. And you can tell 263 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: the backup quarterbacks trusted him because I mean they went 264 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: to him twelve target today, eight catches, I mean, and 265 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: they needed a play. It was Tom Kennedy they went to. 266 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: And I think that says something. Speaking of the quarterbacks, 267 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: what do you think of the boil blow performance and 268 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of that battle there for the backup spot? I 269 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: was I was pleasantly surprised. I think with both of them. 270 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: I liked Tim Boyle. He took some downfield shots, he 271 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: was ripping it. He ripped the one to Raymond, he 272 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: ripped a couple over the middle. I thought the Punch's 273 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: ball was a great throw. I really liked. I liked 274 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: what both guys did. Blow was running a little bit, 275 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: which I think, again not a running quarterback, but gives 276 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: you another element. So a pocket candidence with Boile was 277 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: really really all right. I mean, I'm sorry with Blow. 278 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: Boil was too, but with Blow, especially to him, just 279 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: maneuvering and managing the pocket to give him a little 280 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: bit extra time to throw. That's really an art in 281 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the NFL game, in my opinion, for guys that can 282 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: keep their eyes downfield but yet have the awareness and 283 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: know where the open spot is to to give you know, 284 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more time for their wide receivers to 285 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: get open. And I thought he was great at that. 286 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: I agree with you that shot to Raymond that that 287 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Tim Boyle had was you can't You can't throw that 288 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: any better. That was just a perfect throw. But again 289 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: it's not always the great place that that will stick 290 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: with you. It's it's the bad ones. And there were 291 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: two bad ones for each guy. You know, A Boil 292 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: probably threw a ball that he he shouldn't have to 293 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: Pimpleton that he that he then threw on the back 294 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: hip that you know, the Atlanta um picks off. The 295 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: kudos to the Lions defense for holding him at that point. 296 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: It was a good stand holding him to a field goal. 297 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: After they got the ball. I think it was about 298 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: the fifteen yard line, somewhere right on there with three 299 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: and out, So good for them. And then we talked 300 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: about the blow one earlier. You just securing the football 301 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: is number one. It with two minutes left, a three 302 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: point lead on your side of the field, you've just 303 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: got to secure that football. Yeah, you know, and you 304 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: you know you can't be too quick and those are 305 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: just critical mistakes that obviously leads to the game winning touchdown. 306 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: And so you know, I think both those guys are 307 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: going to lament those moments a little bit. I agree 308 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: with you there were some good things there, but I've 309 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: got to see the mistakes especially go away, because if 310 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: you get an opportunity to play in the NFL's a 311 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Look your backup for a reason, right. Yeah. Now, 312 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: you're a very good player in your own right, but 313 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: you're a backup because maybe the armed talent isn't there. 314 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Whatever the experience isn't there, and you just you have 315 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: to make up for those things by being efficient and 316 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: not making mistakes. I think if you're a backup quarterback 317 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: site and you come in, you make make mistakes or 318 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: team dinal chance to win in most cases. Yeah, and 319 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: so that's what I want to see from those two 320 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: guys next week, is hey, be as efficient as you were. 321 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: They both led multiple scoring drives. I thought there were 322 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a lot of great things, but it's those two things 323 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: that I think are going to stand out, especially the 324 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: blow one unfortunately, because you know, it changed the outcome 325 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: of the game, and it's something that you've talked a 326 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: lot about on the show with various guests. I think 327 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: joint practices are going to be a really big part 328 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: of that, just getting to throw a different guys and 329 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, put routes on not air or not, you know, 330 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: the same dbs you've been going against for two weeks, 331 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: just different looks and seeing what you could do against them. Yeah, 332 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: and that'll be a fun one next week. So look 333 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday, we're down in Indie. Um, we'll get 334 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: you a pod from there too. After the joint practice, 335 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: I have page you know, maybe michaelha On. Um, we're 336 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: gonna get with an indie writer. I've got a special 337 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: form or player who joined me who's going to be out. 338 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: There's a tease. See, I'm learning this whole thing, and 339 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: so you know, it's it'll be a fun time. We'll 340 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: have a couple of days of joint practice. There'll be 341 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: a lot of great observations, a lot of great great 342 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: stuff from that, and then the game on Saturday one o'clock. 343 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: And look, you just want to see improvement. You hope 344 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: the starters maybe get a couple series, they continue their 345 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: hot momentum defense, the defensive ones play a little bit better, 346 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: especially against the run, and then you don't see some 347 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: of them stakes in the second and third team. You 348 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: guys talking about a game with a team with a 349 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: good run game. You got a bunch of good running 350 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: backs in the next week. That'll be a great yeah. 351 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's what this defense has to get 352 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: has to be, you know, I mean, Dan Campbell, Aaron 353 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: Glenn have talks about it. That's why they're doing tackling. 354 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, when they put the pads on, they've just 355 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: got to be a better tackling team. They've got to 356 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: be at against the run. Yeah, pursuit, tackling, pursuit and 357 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: tackle and stop the run because if teams are running 358 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty eight yards, two hundred yards 359 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: whatever it was too many times last year, it's just 360 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: going to be too hard for this offense to overcome that, 361 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: even as well as we expect them to play. So 362 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: that's something for you guys to look forward to the 363 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: next two weeks and especially me. Can this defense contain 364 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: the run a little bit better? That's one of the 365 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: big takes I could take from this game. Yeah, absolutely, 366 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: all right, Well that will wrap everything up here from 367 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: preseason week number one. Like we talked about, we will 368 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: be an indie next week and we'll break down there. 369 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: It should be fun.