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Speaker 3: Players Loundes post drive.
Speaker 4: Let's ride from the Star at Frisco.
Speaker 5: Barry Church back, so good to see you. Heck Ma
Speaker 5: Harrison is here, Danny McCrae is here. I'm New he Scruggs.
Speaker 5: A nice hat. They think they just lost three games
Speaker 5: here in Arlington, but it did. Okay, man from Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: where the hat.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's a fascist it.
Speaker 2: That's the only team with a black hat.
Speaker 6: The Rangers just made a black hair.
Speaker 2: He just made a black hen hencher boy.
Speaker 7: He got them telling you.
Speaker 5: If you want anything in town. That got it when
Speaker 5: they when they rolled out the Range uniform. Did you
Speaker 5: see the video. Dak is sitting at his locker. He
Speaker 5: opened up the box.
Speaker 2: So he's the shock of it all, got it all.
Speaker 5: He was the Stars game got he everybody else got
Speaker 5: on Stars jersey, but Dak had the one that they
Speaker 5: had that they wore during the when they played outside
Speaker 5: that winner classic. He had to win a classic one? Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: that that that got all the stuff.
Speaker 6: Man, Prince of the city. Man, that's what they say.
Speaker 5: By the way, when they were at the Stars game
Speaker 5: and the suite, you know who I saw there in
Speaker 5: the background as as fer Ferguson and hit a shot
Speaker 5: where we're chucking beers, Jaylen Tolbert, and I was like,
Speaker 5: this is good.
Speaker 6: I want to see wherever Dak is.
Speaker 3: I want to see Jayalen Tolbert.
Speaker 4: Man, you gonna come in here like that is he waving.
Speaker 5: He was clapping for him. I'm just telling where where
Speaker 5: Dak is? Don't you want to see? That's to me,
Speaker 5: that's a good sign because now Jayalen Tolbert is starting
Speaker 5: to see in the understand I need to be connected
Speaker 5: to four.
Speaker 3: I need to be next to this guy. That's where
Speaker 3: I took it as.
Speaker 7: I need to be next to a possible who need
Speaker 7: to be next the game and that's who gonna get
Speaker 7: you on the field exactly the problem yelling healthy, you
Speaker 7: got c LA.
Speaker 2: He told I gonna hang out with da.
Speaker 6: Working on that release.
Speaker 4: Nobody but nobody's happening in jay Otober when he watched
Speaker 4: that draft and realized that.
Speaker 2: He take a whid receiver. I thought he was there.
Speaker 2: I've been there. You look at that draft board. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we good, good good. He's gonna have to beat me out.
Speaker 6: I'll never forget twenty twelve.
Speaker 8: Me and Sense the Ball sitting there watching the draft,
Speaker 8: and all we heard was what was the kid from
Speaker 8: Alabama to safety Alex Barron back in the day, He's
Speaker 8: supposed to come out rest around, man, we need Olex Barry. Yeah,
Speaker 8: sitting there, Mark Barron, that's Mark Baron.
Speaker 2: That's what we're sitting there.
Speaker 6: Please don't.
Speaker 2: I just got I think he ended up getting Clay Born.
Speaker 6: So he's a ship that we caused. Candy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't happen to me.
Speaker 4: Because he went in and got another extension. Y'all picked
Speaker 4: up money right now.
Speaker 2: It's a cold.
Speaker 6: World, old world, go world.
Speaker 5: That is interesting going at the other other players on
Speaker 5: the team, especially when you hear all the talk like
Speaker 5: you're saying, you know, you hear all the talk here,
Speaker 5: and then they have a player mocked here, player mocked there.
Speaker 5: So interesting stuff. The Cowboys get done with the draft.
Speaker 5: I just want to go around the room.
Speaker 3: Tell me your favorite draft picture.
Speaker 6: You will start with me. I got can I can?
Speaker 6: I get a one A one B situation.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: Side one, I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with the guy that was our first
Speaker 8: round pick, the defensive tackle Smith Smith, Mozzie Smith. All right,
Speaker 8: I feel like we all talked about it here in
Speaker 8: the players lounge, how we need somebody in there that
Speaker 8: can clog those lanes. We knew what this is the
Speaker 8: weakness for the Dallas Cowboys defense was all last year.
Speaker 8: It was the running game straight up the gun, and
Speaker 8: we just didn't have anybody over there that can kind
Speaker 8: of clog those lanes.
Speaker 6: It's not like about pass rush.
Speaker 8: It's about clogging lanes and keeping those offensive linemen off
Speaker 8: your second level defenders, which was you know, Lve and
Speaker 8: Clark let them run sideline the sidelines. So from all
Speaker 8: I hear about Smith and all I read about him,
Speaker 8: he fits that bill.
Speaker 2: All right. He's a big, strong guy.
Speaker 6: He's been in the weight room. He can clog holes.
Speaker 8: He has some pass rush ability, but that's not really
Speaker 8: you know what we want. We want a guy that
Speaker 8: can clog things up, keep these offensive linemen off the
Speaker 8: second level, and I feel like he fits the bill
Speaker 8: and checks every market. If he could become a three
Speaker 8: down lineman, that's great, but we need him for that
Speaker 8: first and second down and clog that thing up. So
Speaker 8: I'm glad we went that route for the defensive line
Speaker 8: because it was much needed.
Speaker 4: You go with me, all right, Well look, man, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna pull out your heart streaking man and go email
Speaker 4: with my kids and staf Hey, fella, come on, Manu Vaughan.
Speaker 4: I thought, first of all, if you if you saw
Speaker 4: the draft, you followed the draft, that was a special
Speaker 4: moment to see uh, the scout Chris Vaughan draft his son,
Speaker 4: you know, and put that in. I just thought that
Speaker 4: was special moment. Asked you about your most emotional but
Speaker 4: talk about man, give me a second. All right, all right,
Speaker 4: all right, you talk about bring your evil down or not?
Speaker 2: Because set you off for a team. Hey, bring your
Speaker 2: evil down? Okay.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is, man, that was a special moment.
Speaker 4: Everybody knew that the Cowboys needed to make a move
Speaker 4: at a running back at some point. I don't think
Speaker 4: that they the prototypical guy that you were looking for
Speaker 4: in Zeke's absence. Uh, we definitely were looking at a
Speaker 4: bigger guy. But Duce Vaughan still is a guy that's
Speaker 4: going to be you know, liking and and tied to
Speaker 4: Darrence Pros because of the Kansas States uh ties, but
Speaker 4: you know, being his height, ast stature.
Speaker 2: The guy's a playmaker and I.
Speaker 4: Really can't wait to see how they fit him into
Speaker 4: this and how I mean he fits into that rotation.
Speaker 4: He has an uphill battle obviously with Rojo and Leek Davis,
Speaker 4: all the guys that are on this roster. But man,
Speaker 4: I think that's that was one of those picks that
Speaker 4: I think for me. Man again, Kansas State brother, and man,
Speaker 4: I like to pick you. They don't make fun of
Speaker 4: me by lsu Ever again, you know the way this
Speaker 4: man just speak now listen. I thought it was an
Speaker 4: amazing moment. Almost brought a tear to my eye. Okay,
Speaker 4: But like you said, uphill battle. So when we're talking
Speaker 4: about me, when I'm thinking of it, I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: impactful on the spirit of not picking the same person
Speaker 4: as Barry because I would have I'm going with my guy,
Speaker 4: Luke Shoemaker Mocker. Yes, you're talking about a tight end yes, no,
Speaker 4: look no no, Like I said, I don't want to
Speaker 4: pick the same guy as Barry.
Speaker 2: No no, no no.
Speaker 4: So so you know I am the one who stands
Speaker 4: on the table and pounds the table for dan Quinn.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad he got his three take me. I'm
Speaker 2: happy about that.
Speaker 4: But in the spirit of knowing that this may be
Speaker 4: a real huge sign that this will be a running
Speaker 4: team for sure, because what did you go get? You
Speaker 4: ain't got you a guy from Michigan who was blocking, blocking, blocking,
Speaker 4: but he still has the ability to get out there
Speaker 4: and then catch some passes and find find ways to
Speaker 4: get open, have some speed. But his main thing is,
Speaker 4: hey man, he gonna get out there. He's gonna be
Speaker 4: a point of attack guy. So you can run behind
Speaker 4: him if you need to. And that lets me know that, Hey,
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy wasn't just messing with us when he said,
Speaker 4: hey man, we want to run the ball and play
Speaker 4: to our defense, because that's the strength of our team.
Speaker 4: We are going to put something behind it. Let's go
Speaker 4: get us a tight end who can block, because what
Speaker 4: was the knock on Dalton shows good block not a
Speaker 4: run blocker. Now you got a guy who can get
Speaker 4: out there in space and connected to the to the
Speaker 4: quarter offense and get out there and block some guys.
Speaker 4: So I'm going there, but you know you still you
Speaker 4: still want to. But that's just a sign for me.
Speaker 4: We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna play defense, and
Speaker 4: that's what we that's what I think we need to
Speaker 4: do to win.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 4: Just you know, I think that's a crowded, tight end room.
Speaker 4: And he has an uphill battle too, even though he's
Speaker 4: a number two pick. So Hendershot got something to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't say all you want to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the second round figure who's getting the more,
Speaker 4: who's getting most opportunities to get out there?
Speaker 2: And I get it, you know you're trying to shoot
Speaker 2: slugs because then he heard it.
Speaker 6: By the way, when Heckma says em that sense for
Speaker 6: every man a wildcat that I had no idea.
Speaker 2: I thought it was emotional. That's what.
Speaker 4: My my brother went to kmdist state.
Speaker 2: Okay, well shout some love in so I know what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: He talked a lot of missing He was so happy
Speaker 4: when you can't stay b l s U that year
Speaker 4: and we had nobody playing on the squad, so shout out,
Speaker 4: they'll man, because I know y'all all the type of people.
Speaker 10: Man, Danny, don't don't talk about second round draft picks
Speaker 10: having to play.
Speaker 6: Let's be honest with you, bro.
Speaker 2: Come on, no, no, no, no, no, I say he's gonna
Speaker 2: get more opportunity.
Speaker 4: Shout out to shout out to how much you got
Speaker 4: second round about him?
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just talking about second round, just talking
Speaker 2: about cigarettes.
Speaker 6: And went to lu Su who.
Speaker 11: Oh, I'm going with Mazzie Smith and we talked about
Speaker 11: it on this show consistently.
Speaker 5: They can't sit around here be a championship team.
Speaker 3: If you can't stop the bruk, it just it just
Speaker 3: doesn't happen.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys have won five world championships, and you look
Speaker 5: at the five championships. You talk about a guy like
Speaker 5: Bob Lily in the middle, about Randy White. I mean,
Speaker 5: you've had guys who can play or stop the run.
Speaker 5: Mazzie Smith does that. The problem in listening to people
Speaker 5: as I'm hearing them on talk shows and watching Twitter,
Speaker 5: they don't get what Mazzi does. No, he's not Aaron Donald,
Speaker 5: he's not Warren Sap. But ask your show who was
Speaker 5: playing next to Warren.
Speaker 3: Sap was Booger McFarland. Think like that Booger McFarlane.
Speaker 5: Think Hellodinada up there with in Baltimore helping Ray Lewis
Speaker 5: get to the ball, Tony Sarah Goosa, Sam Adams, those
Speaker 5: kind of players that they have, Aaron Donald in La.
Speaker 5: Think Ashan Robinson who's playing next to Aeron. A guy
Speaker 5: that can sit up here and get double teams. I
Speaker 5: would at that Fiesta Bowl with TCU and Michigan played,
Speaker 5: and TCU got on him, Michigan clawed their way back.
Speaker 5: One of the ways it came back was Ozzie Smith
Speaker 5: ended up stripping I want to say it was Kendrick
Speaker 5: Miller who he stripped him in the game, and Kendrick
Speaker 5: ended up getting hurt too, but he helped turn that
Speaker 5: game around. Steve Avola, who a lot of people liked
Speaker 5: here in the building, the guard of TCU. He got
Speaker 5: drafted high too. He said Mazzie was his toughest, toughest
Speaker 5: guy here. He played all year and I just think
Speaker 5: of this players. It's not quote unquote sexy. You don't
Speaker 5: have any Fantasy football numbers on him, but this is
Speaker 5: a guy who can make everybody else's job easier, and
Speaker 5: I love the fact that they went there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean from everything I heard, they say, he's
Speaker 8: kind of like an immovable object. But he can just
Speaker 8: take double teams, but he's not gonna give ground. He
Speaker 8: might not push it back, but he's not gonna give ground.
Speaker 8: And that's what you need when you got linebackers with
Speaker 8: speed like we have. And I like that third round
Speaker 8: pick as well. Believe it's overshawn that guy. I think
Speaker 8: he has some potential to be kind of a kind
Speaker 8: of a stund out there. I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 8: show right from the jump. I think he's gonna have
Speaker 8: to work his way through. I think he could be
Speaker 8: a great special teams player. But with the speed and
Speaker 8: the take that they have on him, he can be
Speaker 8: a special player in this league.
Speaker 4: A guy that came out initially as a safety, yeah,
Speaker 4: and then bumped down to linebacker has coverage skills. I
Speaker 4: just like the way he is downhill and there's a
Speaker 4: you know, there's the rumor that said they want to
Speaker 4: use him more of as an edge guy.
Speaker 6: Also, so very interesting to see the way that they
Speaker 6: use him.
Speaker 4: They have a plan for him, but also special teams
Speaker 4: being the other part of how he's going to be used.
Speaker 5: Talk to a Texas coach down there and try to
Speaker 5: get here, give me a little give me a little
Speaker 5: bit on him. And he said, smart can cover running
Speaker 5: backs and tight ends, and he's a really good pass
Speaker 5: rusher off the edge and inside.
Speaker 6: So that'll be huge, that'll be huge.
Speaker 5: And this is one where you go back into dan Quinn.
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn says, all right, give me this guy. I've
Speaker 5: got a plan for him. I always go back to
Speaker 5: the plane he had for Michael Parsons. All right, go ahead,
Speaker 5: go ahead, just puts more emphasis.
Speaker 6: You can never let dan Quinn.
Speaker 5: Get out of his building, that man getting in a
Speaker 5: lifetime contract or something like that.
Speaker 4: What you're gonna keep letting office of the line coaches
Speaker 4: get about here the way they know goodness? I said, Now, yeah,
Speaker 4: huh was that's the one disappointed thing disappointed talking about We're.
Speaker 2: Gonna wait to the okay, compensatory.
Speaker 6: He's saying, Marcus Spears and Tyrer Smith had a good party.
Speaker 4: And over the year when it got to the fourth
Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, bro went orders winks stopped till down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that.
Speaker 6: Which was surprising, Yeah, surprising. What do I know, yeah,
Speaker 6: right when I take out a tar heel for you
Speaker 6: when I got I said anything dragon, nobody.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about Richards in the fifth round.
Speaker 6: Tell my priority. That was a compensatory pick too.
Speaker 5: So Richards in the little video saying cowboyation, he came
Speaker 5: ready to work.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm good luck to it.
Speaker 4: He's gonna get a shot and Josh Paul is moving
Speaker 4: the guard.
Speaker 2: It's okay, good crickets.
Speaker 4: High shout out to John.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 5: I would I've been watching. I've been checking tape on him,
Speaker 5: going on this Twitter looking looking at.
Speaker 6: Him because they sat up there said hey, you know
Speaker 6: play tackle and playing with some guard.
Speaker 5: Position flex So yeah, I mean you guys, Danny and Barry,
Speaker 5: you played this league.
Speaker 2: You know this.
Speaker 5: If you're Josh Ball, this is this is competition for you.
Speaker 5: And I specifically asked Mike McCarthy that pre press rapt
Speaker 5: the press corps about Ball and about Matt Willets.
Speaker 2: Sure a good question, man, And once.
Speaker 5: Again I learned from Jason Garrett. Listen to what they
Speaker 5: don't say talk nice about. Well, let's go, what do
Speaker 5: you like, Josh Ball. We're gonna move inside, gonna play
Speaker 5: some guard that had heard anything about guard from from
Speaker 5: Ball and oh guard tackle like, okay, try, we're trying
Speaker 5: to figure it out.
Speaker 4: At least they're still giving them a shot. Just say like,
Speaker 4: hey man, this where you're gonna be. And if it
Speaker 4: don't work out for you, don't work out, they like, listen,
Speaker 4: we're gonna give you every opportunity to make the squad.
Speaker 2: And there you go on the cam half step and
Speaker 2: be ready.
Speaker 5: Now that they drafted Ausin Richards from North Carolina, you
Speaker 5: know there's one more cat and the road.
Speaker 2: I laughed at Nick Eatman. Man he made the statement.
Speaker 4: And Josh Ball is six foot eight, it's gonna be
Speaker 4: impossible to complete that slapt route all in the windows
Speaker 4: in the back of the head. That's gonna last for
Speaker 4: about a series.
Speaker 9: Ball.
Speaker 2: We are, we are rooting for you down here. Beat up,
Speaker 2: johsh Ball. We need it for you.
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Speaker 6: Who was the home uny? You know derby champion?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I'm just throwing it out there. Now.
Speaker 2: Can I throw something out there?
Speaker 14: Man?
Speaker 6: What's happening?
Speaker 2: Your boy gonna m c the thing?
Speaker 6: Man or what? Yeah? One, I might have to show up.
Speaker 2: It's going down with a thing. You should play. You'd
Speaker 2: be a special alumni defend crown. Hey, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean I was a beef to cranked eighteen of
Speaker 6: them things out there.
Speaker 4: One husband underhands softball.
Speaker 2: What they said that cork back your back? Wood back?
Speaker 6: It was a wooden back, yeah, back cranking.
Speaker 3: The mad props to you, man, because that would back.
Speaker 6: No joking at all, that brisk Well you hit it wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember we're trying to hit his Minor League park,
Speaker 5: the Lancaster JetHawks.
Speaker 3: They had us hit man with that what bat man?
Speaker 3: That hit the thing wrong? I thought somebody stupid?
Speaker 6: Like all in Man, it's a skill still, Chris.
Speaker 5: Man like yo, yeah, man, Man, props to people who
Speaker 5: do it professionally in sports. All that stuff you think,
Speaker 5: is he hitting the golf ball, hitting the baseball? Get
Speaker 5: on out there do it? You know, no, just trip man?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 3: Players was about to buy tho he Harrison, Barry Church, Danny.
Speaker 4: Craze here where he's everywhere.
Speaker 2: You've been smooth almost a year though he.
Speaker 5: Man got me, got me, uh, Barry go go to
Speaker 5: the night though.
Speaker 6: Man me and were gone. We'll get at some of
Speaker 6: the after this.
Speaker 5: Bl Okay, look cowboy Twitter full of displeasure. Okay, looking
Speaker 5: at the Eagles with jealous eyes. Everybody was wanted what
Speaker 5: he wanted Georgia bulldog with the Cowboys here because the
Speaker 5: Eagles went, I got got two more, three more?
Speaker 6: What pick did you say? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Obviously, go get Will McClay and you're gonna get the
Speaker 5: draft department some credit because last what ten years they've
Speaker 5: been one of the best in terms of first round
Speaker 5: picks and producing Pro Bowls, tied with San Francisco with
Speaker 5: nine in terms of all pro players.
Speaker 3: But give me the pick, you said, M I don't know.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to go with my got shoemaker out there?
Speaker 8: Am I pronouncing that? I feel like I'm not pronouncing
Speaker 8: that shoemaker shoon maker. Thank you appreciate the help.
Speaker 6: But to me, I feel like, you know.
Speaker 8: You got two young tight end prospects here in the
Speaker 8: building that we've seen last year can make some plays
Speaker 8: for you to.
Speaker 6: Go and get one in the second round.
Speaker 8: I feel like you could have gotten him later on,
Speaker 8: maybe in the third, maybe in the fourth.
Speaker 6: I feel like you could have gotten him.
Speaker 8: I would have rather seen that pick on someone in
Speaker 8: the interior offensive line, whether it's guard center, and maybe
Speaker 8: they didn't have any guards or centers that high on
Speaker 8: their draft board, and this was the guy that was
Speaker 8: high enough, and that's why they went and grab them.
Speaker 8: But to me, I feel like you could have gotten
Speaker 8: him later on. To me, once again, he's he's not
Speaker 8: one of those dynamic tight ends. Like he's not one
Speaker 8: of them all purpose everything block catching. He's dynamic. You
Speaker 8: can split them out and maybe he'll develop into that.
Speaker 8: But to me, as of right now, I think that
Speaker 8: was a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 6: Can I ask you in the league right now, who
Speaker 6: is that? Is that?
Speaker 2: All around?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, of course you got the Kittles of
Speaker 8: the world, you got the Kelsey's of the world, you
Speaker 8: got the n joke Who's of the world.
Speaker 6: Kelsey blocking, Kelsey blocking, Kelsey blocking, third rounder George Kittle,
Speaker 6: fifth round. That's what I feel like. You can get
Speaker 6: those guys later on.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying in their minds, he was one of
Speaker 5: the top four guys.
Speaker 2: I was told he plays some ball. Look, I'm not
Speaker 2: down on he plays some ball. I don't and it's
Speaker 2: not down on the player.
Speaker 4: And listen, and I've been on here giving Loom the Wells,
Speaker 4: the tight ends coach, a lot of love, a lot
Speaker 4: of love. So what we're seeing from the two young
Speaker 4: guys could possibly not be what he's seeing or they
Speaker 4: are seeing from the young guys. As far as being
Speaker 4: able to block at the point of attack and making
Speaker 4: some of those plays. Yeah, we saw him catch some passes,
Speaker 4: but they obviously felt like they had a problem. If
Speaker 4: you were thinking about playing daughty showed somebody last year
Speaker 4: or even this year and then picking a guy up
Speaker 4: in the second round, So it must be something that
Speaker 4: they're seeing order saying, hey man, this guy's potential is
Speaker 4: much higher than what we have in the room currently.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. Like I said, this is
Speaker 2: a running game, But for me, I think it's more of.
Speaker 4: Like you know who he didn't pick, like what position
Speaker 4: we didn't pick until the fifth right.
Speaker 6: That worries me.
Speaker 4: It's always gonna worry me until we start to revamp
Speaker 4: this offen some line and not just kind of depend
Speaker 4: on it being a mixing match, like hey, this guy
Speaker 4: can play swing this and swing that, and he'll be okay.
Speaker 4: If we have an injury at the left tackle, which
Speaker 4: we already know is likely to happen, and then we
Speaker 4: have a right tackle who's coming off of acl injury,
Speaker 4: and then you got Josh Bald and trying to figure
Speaker 4: out how do we get some people who really can
Speaker 4: have an anchor at the our position, Because anytime we
Speaker 4: played Tampa over the last two years and we said
Speaker 4: Vita Bay was coming, we had an issue, right, and
Speaker 4: you want to make sure you don't have guys in
Speaker 4: that Prescott's pocket as soon as he snaps the ball
Speaker 4: when you're trying to do a five step drop and
Speaker 4: you need to have a little bit more time. So
Speaker 4: that is what worries me about the draft. Not necessarily
Speaker 4: a pick, because I have faith and Will McLay and
Speaker 4: Dan Quinn in the scouting department because they've been hitting
Speaker 4: for years, but just the fact that our officive line
Speaker 4: has been an issue for the last couple and we
Speaker 4: didn't seem the real division of the divisions. Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: they went and got heavy on defense. I'm talking about
Speaker 4: some playmakers. Sorry, no good man BC. Last Monday, I
Speaker 4: came in here and told everybody, Man, I knew I
Speaker 4: was gonna be upset.
Speaker 2: I already knew it.
Speaker 4: I mean, the writing was on the wall of what
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles were going to do. I didn't know they
Speaker 4: was gonna, you know, spin the block on us and
Speaker 4: hit the thirty of me known do it like that.
Speaker 4: That's nasty. And they, I mean, they really did have
Speaker 4: a good draft. But all in all, I'm gonna agree
Speaker 4: with you on Shootmaker. I didn't think that he would
Speaker 4: be a guy that was gonna go up that high.
Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna lie to you and tell you
Speaker 4: that I was. I watched him and specifically said, he's
Speaker 4: one of the guys that we should pinpoint, especially when
Speaker 4: you had those other names in there. I was shocked
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys even were rumored to go tight end
Speaker 4: in the first round. I'm so happy that we didn't,
Speaker 4: you know, but the guy that we wanted wasn't there
Speaker 4: anyway for us to even take. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: the guy that they were saying we're gonna tell him, like,
Speaker 4: no way, there's no way we're gonna do that. So,
Speaker 4: you know, and I also agree with you, Danny Uh,
Speaker 4: there's something happening with Ferguson and Hindershot that we obviously
Speaker 4: don't know that they think that that is a need
Speaker 4: when you when you lose Schultz.
Speaker 2: You know, look, it's.
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see Mike McCarthy is now your offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: He comes in with a different philosophy and his whole
Speaker 4: thing is being we're gonna play defense and we're gonna
Speaker 4: run the ball. Okay, that sounds good in theory, right, but
Speaker 4: too to what you're saying. Man, y'all gonna have to
Speaker 4: throw this ball. And we know the best deck we
Speaker 4: have is the deck that didn't have to deal with
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure, and so you still haven't revemped,
Speaker 4: you haven't gone back to at least figuring out who's
Speaker 4: going to be, uh your left guard if based off
Speaker 4: of what we understand. I just look, they haven't told
Speaker 4: us anything to say that it's going to be tiring
Speaker 4: and Tyler on the left side, Martin and still on
Speaker 4: the right side.
Speaker 2: So look, if that's not, if that's.
Speaker 4: Not going to be the starting lineup, then I just
Speaker 4: want to know what are they what are you thinking
Speaker 4: on who's gonna be your day one starter?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, shaky rattle, but you know he wasn't gonna mention it.
Speaker 4: But I'm out. Like, as soon as the trade was
Speaker 4: made for Swift, I was like, man, if you could
Speaker 4: go back in time and not paying God.
Speaker 2: Tim and know that you was you could be able
Speaker 2: to make a move like that. Would you do it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just just would you do it? Would you do
Speaker 2: would you pay TP to ten Tony Pollard?
Speaker 4: Or would you say, hey, man, we got an opportunity
Speaker 4: to get a guy like a Swift from Detroit, which
Speaker 4: was the Eagles made that traded during the draft.
Speaker 6: Which one would you Dowie?
Speaker 5: I would take Tony Pollard because he's a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 5: DeAndre Swift has Pro Bowl talent, but he's never made
Speaker 5: I don't don't know if he's ever made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6: No, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But good player
Speaker 6: injury history. I won't lie.
Speaker 5: When I saw what Detroit did in the first round,
Speaker 5: I thought, what would it take to get Swift? Clearly
Speaker 5: they decided they didn't want to do it. But man,
Speaker 5: look Kyrie Roseman, he's doing things. He's doing things. Let's
Speaker 5: see what it translates to. I'll say this, outside of
Speaker 5: Kansas City, they'll probably should. They should be the favorite
Speaker 5: when people talk about getting back to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: But I also knew this from just my NFL history.
Speaker 5: Hard to get back there, Oh yeah, it's hard to
Speaker 5: get back. Super Bowl losers have only won the super
Speaker 5: Bowl two times after losing Miami. After they lost Super
Speaker 5: Bowl six of the Cowboys went undefeated, won super Bowl
Speaker 5: seven and then New England a couple of years ago
Speaker 5: to Philly beat.
Speaker 3: Then they came back the next year.
Speaker 6: And they beat that Atlanta. I think that's who they beat.
Speaker 5: So it's hard. It's hard, but they're gonna get all
Speaker 5: the publicity. If you're the Cowboys, good let them for
Speaker 5: someone for once. Let somebody else have all the shine
Speaker 5: and all the family, Let them have the whole, Let them.
Speaker 3: Have all that.
Speaker 5: So so let's see you've lost coordinators there in Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: So let's see.
Speaker 5: Uh, they brought in Matt Patricia, who you know your
Speaker 5: corner can't stand.
Speaker 3: So let me see how all this stuff goes here
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: Is they make these adjustments around here? You can assemble talent,
Speaker 5: how does it play?
Speaker 4: We see Jalen Carter is going to be a nightmare
Speaker 4: scenario for everybody in the NFC. He was one of
Speaker 4: the one of the best, Like take all the question
Speaker 4: marks out other than the stuff that they're talking about
Speaker 4: off the field. On the field, approven dog, a guy
Speaker 4: that could have been in the first would have been
Speaker 4: in the first round last year. So I mean, I understand,
Speaker 4: you know, you have to put this talent together. But
Speaker 4: on paper, well this is just on paper, boy, this
Speaker 4: looked like Brown, Jerome Brown, Reggie White. This looked like
Speaker 4: that ninety one Buddy Ryan. No that it wasn't Buddy
Speaker 4: Yan on that defense, but that looks like that defense. Coach,
Speaker 4: I think when they were when they were number one.
Speaker 4: Few people talk about that, that Philadelphia, that ninety one
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles defense.
Speaker 6: I remember all them championships they won too, didn't.
Speaker 2: They did not. But here's the thing. But here's here's
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 4: Right as dominant, you'd never seen a defense b ranked
Speaker 4: number one, finish number one and run and also passed.
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about the line that they had, the
Speaker 4: dominance that they played with back then, if they didn't
Speaker 4: amount to the championship. But now on the other side,
Speaker 4: you have an offense that can back up a pretty
Speaker 4: damn good Did they upbride their roster? He yeah, your
Speaker 4: offensive defensive out of the ball both sides, I would say,
Speaker 4: so your ad swift, your add and man the defense
Speaker 4: for us. Which is why we have this issue with
Speaker 4: this offensive line and trying to figure out how we're
Speaker 4: going to muster the strength some of these dudes, because
Speaker 4: right right now, you don't know who you have on
Speaker 4: your offensive line day you can depend on? Who can
Speaker 4: you like as you're looking at your tackles, who can
Speaker 4: you depend on?
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 2: Your guard only one? So right now you look, you said, man,
Speaker 2: I got one for sure, You're playing spades.
Speaker 4: But you got you call that, I got one for show.
Speaker 4: You might get posted Smith Tyllas Smith. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: What are you playing it? But no, no, you got to.
Speaker 9: You got to.
Speaker 2: You got to.
Speaker 6: You got to.
Speaker 4: And it worries me because now you don't know the
Speaker 4: dude gonna play left tack or left guard, depending on
Speaker 4: what the other guy who's on the outside is.
Speaker 2: Say his name.
Speaker 4: You know, it's okay, man, it's all right, it's all right.
Speaker 4: But like I said, like you said, it's on paper,
Speaker 4: it's on paper, and you've seen teams you know not
Speaker 4: be able to make it back. But I mean Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: just okay.
Speaker 5: So the player you said, I don't know, Scoonmaker, what'd
Speaker 5: you have?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go saying, okay, I did lack of offensive
Speaker 4: line early, Okay, I don't. I don't have an issue
Speaker 4: with any of the players because, like I said, I
Speaker 4: believe that the guys that they saw are going to
Speaker 4: produce because they've been hitting.
Speaker 2: But I would have liked to.
Speaker 4: See, uh, you know, offensive line be more of a
Speaker 4: priority in the draft.
Speaker 5: You were not alone. There are a lot of people
Speaker 5: who felt that same way you did. Why didn't they
Speaker 5: do that? The third round pick I thought was interesting
Speaker 5: and overshown where I thought maybe that was going to
Speaker 5: be an offensive lineman. I don't know, haven't been able
Speaker 5: to dive into. He asked the right people were the
Speaker 5: guys you liked off the board?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Were they were?
Speaker 6: They gone?
Speaker 5: Because that was one thing for people about Shoemaker. They
Speaker 5: felt like, hey, we got a list, here's the next
Speaker 5: guy on our list. And they did not like the
Speaker 5: Georgia player. Okay, they brought him in for a visit,
Speaker 5: So Nola Smith, no, no.
Speaker 6: No, okay, I got you all the big, big Washington.
Speaker 5: Children, and we think about, yes, they've drafted guys they
Speaker 5: brought in, but you can also see guys that you
Speaker 5: bring in and you're like, no, I don't. I don't
Speaker 5: have the feel that I want. So Shoemaker was a
Speaker 5: guy that they wanted and the play caller wanted it.
Speaker 3: Especially a little bit different than last year, right that was.
Speaker 2: The pand coats and play caller.
Speaker 3: Play caller won a round one one of the guys
Speaker 3: and you got to wait.
Speaker 6: So round two. They've done that before every one time.
Speaker 5: Parse Parcels didn't want, Terrence Newman didn't want, so second
Speaker 5: round parcels got the picks.
Speaker 3: Guy, Chris be you remember that.
Speaker 5: I gotta take al al Als Wisconsin ouse.
Speaker 6: Who was McCarthy's tight ends on his Michael Bubba Franks.
Speaker 8: It took Big Bubble for Miami, Big Bubba Franks.
Speaker 2: So the tight ends have been a big part of it.
Speaker 6: Michael Finley was a dog and you're tight. You're tight end.
Speaker 5: Who can block? Which you can put in the h
Speaker 5: back a full back situation. You can put them in
Speaker 5: different spots. So you're talking about that position flexibility, schoolmaker
Speaker 5: coming out of Michigan. That's that's the stuff I can see.
Speaker 5: Let's get a final break in here. Danny wanted to.
Speaker 2: Give the great.
Speaker 4: Let's give a gread a guy like just start throwing.
Speaker 4: I would never another topic.
Speaker 6: And I agreed with Danny about giving out.
Speaker 4: That's so that's what it took. That's what they took.
Speaker 4: I had to go all so me and knew he decided.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Danny brought it up, and the motion passed and
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Speaker 5: Draft grades in the producer Chris Bean hitting a pretty
Speaker 5: obvious thing where he talked about a couple of years
Speaker 5: ago when the Chiefs got a draft grade of a
Speaker 5: C minus because at ten they took Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 5: the analysis said, calling Mahomes a project is a major understate.
Speaker 5: He's nowhere near ready to play in the NFL, and honestly,
Speaker 5: he may never be. Between the inconsistent accuracy due to
Speaker 5: poor mechanics, his tendency to bail from clean pockets, and
Speaker 5: his lack of field vision, He's going to leave as
Speaker 5: many big plays on the field as his created.
Speaker 3: This was a risky.
Speaker 6: Pick insert foot in mouth.
Speaker 5: And he got one that that particular had one thing right.
Speaker 5: He wasn't ready his first year, but Andy Reid knew
Speaker 5: what he had Alex Smith, but by the time he
Speaker 5: played that final game when they rolled him out there,
Speaker 5: he bowled that last game.
Speaker 6: He bowled, So coaching matters too. Thanks.
Speaker 4: They let the wrong person get their hands on him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he might have been They have been right. It might
Speaker 4: have been right. Let the wrong person get in there.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So Danny mccraye, Heck Maharrison, Barry Church,
Speaker 5: I'm to he strutch. This is played lounge time for
Speaker 5: draft grade Tech Mayrison.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go be plus. I'm gonna go be plus.
Speaker 4: I thought overall, it's this is the role we have, man.
Speaker 4: We get an opportunity after these guys come out there
Speaker 4: for o t as we see him in pre season,
Speaker 4: then we get to say, what's better than one for
Speaker 4: Hoko too, right, y'all?
Speaker 2: I mean that's who we get an opportunity to see it's.
Speaker 6: Worked out, right, cousin or yeah, we need be Abada's cousins.
Speaker 6: I think so something like.
Speaker 4: Somebody good, somebody disrespect you get opportunity. I'm going to
Speaker 4: be I'm going to be plus. I'm going b plus man.
Speaker 4: I want to see how this works out. I mean,
Speaker 4: and this shoemaker could surprise us.
Speaker 2: All he ain't not gonna surprise me. I think that
Speaker 2: last time we did this, I was right.
Speaker 6: Okay, absolutely over Shawan and be you know, l t
Speaker 6: esk out there. Give it B plus all right, all right,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give it a B. Michael Gelkin in the
Speaker 6: Morning News gave it an A.
Speaker 5: I'm not ready to do that, but I'm going to
Speaker 5: give it a B because they did what I've been
Speaker 5: asking them to do from the time the season ended.
Speaker 5: Please please fix your run defense. Put somebody out there
Speaker 5: who can can plug a hole. They needed to do that,
Speaker 5: so I'm not gonna argue with that at all. They
Speaker 5: did it, so I'm gonna shut up and be happy.
Speaker 5: I believe this kid, combined with Hankins, can help this
Speaker 5: defense and also makes a better player. Diggy Zoo to
Speaker 5: help me. You saw Michael Parsons love to pick. So
Speaker 5: I'm all for that right there. So that right there
Speaker 5: makes me just give it a B.
Speaker 4: It's an odd man out somewhere. I guess we'll get
Speaker 4: to that some other time, but it's an odd man out.
Speaker 6: He didn't mention them.
Speaker 4: That's the odd man out. It's an odd man out.
Speaker 4: I mean, my guy, I think it's my guy.
Speaker 6: To Masie Smith comes in, I mean, I mean we
Speaker 6: saw who we saw sick games last year. You just
Speaker 6: think about healthy scratch right, My god, just think about
Speaker 6: some folks too. He was watching that draft like, oh.
Speaker 4: God, I'm a copy off NEWI I'm an give him
Speaker 4: a bee.
Speaker 6: I'ma give him a bee.
Speaker 4: Had we gone earlier with the offensive lineman, I would
Speaker 4: have gave him a B plus, possibly an eight. But
Speaker 4: as I said earlier in the show, the fact that
Speaker 4: we have a tight end that they wanted to focus
Speaker 4: on that could run block, then let me leads me
Speaker 4: to believe that Mike McCarthy is saying true to his
Speaker 4: word and saying, we are going to run the ball
Speaker 4: and help our defense out. And what are you doing
Speaker 4: in the first round? You help that defense out even
Speaker 4: more by getting Missie Smith. What are you doing the
Speaker 4: third round? You get you another linebacker who can rush
Speaker 4: as well. So wait, we tell you, hey, man, we
Speaker 4: need to find somebody who can help out Michael Parson
Speaker 4: because he's a little small in there. You want to
Speaker 4: make sure that he is taking the wear and tear
Speaker 4: on his body throughout a seventeen game season so he
Speaker 4: can be healthy and ready to go for our playoff push.
Speaker 2: Right, what did you do? You gave?
Speaker 4: You are continuing to give dan Quinn everything he needs
Speaker 4: because you just leaning into that philosophy that our defense
Speaker 4: is gonna run this lead this team. Right, So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give him a BE because they did it all.
Speaker 4: And if these defensive players paying out and Shoemaker is
Speaker 4: anything close to what Dalton Schults was in the past game,
Speaker 4: and we already know he's better in the run game,
Speaker 4: then you got better offensively and defensively.
Speaker 6: That's facts, and I'm gonna go ahead and give him
Speaker 6: a B plus.
Speaker 8: You know, I feel like, you know, for all the
Speaker 8: reasons you guys just said, I feel like we get
Speaker 8: dressed the defensive line and not only you know, getting
Speaker 8: to run stuffer, but somebody that can keep those offensive
Speaker 8: linemen off the second level.
Speaker 6: I also believe we did a little bit for our
Speaker 6: special teams.
Speaker 8: I mean, we were talking about this, you know, while
Speaker 8: how are we gonna get these guys in, how are
Speaker 8: we gonna get.
Speaker 6: These guys to help out fossil?
Speaker 8: And I think you've got a couple of young guys
Speaker 8: that can go out there and they can really run
Speaker 8: you know their big bodies. I mean when me and
Speaker 8: Danny played, I used to hate, you know, going against
Speaker 8: guys that were biggest heck, but can run as well.
Speaker 8: I'd rather if you're big, be slow than the mug,
Speaker 8: but if you're big and fast, it's one of the
Speaker 8: hardest things to block in special teams. And I feel
Speaker 8: like we got some of those young guys in there.
Speaker 8: We got a lot of depth pieces as well. The
Speaker 8: only reason I didn't give him an A is because,
Speaker 8: like we talked about, we didn't address that offensive line
Speaker 8: early enough in my opinion, But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 6: But overall, gonaivehim a B plus.
Speaker 3: Awesome Richards.
Speaker 6: I'm counting on you, counting on your offensive lineman from
Speaker 6: North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I'm counting.
Speaker 5: Really, you're gonna need you need somebody to pop in
Speaker 5: this thing that you don't really know.
Speaker 6: Much about and just say, Okay, this is a guy.
Speaker 5: And I'm honestly, if I'm the old line coach, you
Speaker 5: know you got opportunity here, right, got opportunity, So.
Speaker 2: Look at it.
Speaker 3: See what this guy can do.
Speaker 4: Does this mean that they thought that the officsive line
Speaker 4: coaching was the issue.
Speaker 6: You bring in a new offensive line coach.
Speaker 4: And then you know, now you're not necessarily addressing the
Speaker 4: problem to where we believe it's a problem like player
Speaker 4: wise skill wise, And then they're looking at it and saying, listen,
Speaker 4: we got a new voice in here, Like when Dan
Speaker 4: Quinn comes in and replaces Nolan, we got a new
Speaker 4: voice in here. Maybe this is gonna get more out
Speaker 4: of our players that we currently have in a room
Speaker 4: than what we had previously.
Speaker 6: So I just lean on one.
Speaker 5: There could be I believe you are onto something that's
Speaker 5: a real curveball you're throwing the man.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing with the tight end room. We
Speaker 4: looked at it and said, hey, man, hender shot. And
Speaker 4: first they're ready. And then they looked at it and said,
Speaker 4: hold on, wait, we got we got some right players loud,
Speaker 4: didn't They give philm and credit though for Terrence Steel
Speaker 4: for his development, and give them credit for Tyler Smith
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 6: Somewhere along the way to credit, stop they moved on credit. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when the head coach, head coach lost a
Speaker 5: couple of his guys, so so yeah, so so yeah,
Speaker 5: somebody somebody somewhere didn't feel that way.
Speaker 6: He couldn't develop Josh Bam. Somebody somewhere felt way they
Speaker 6: felt just saying.
Speaker 4: They guard If Josh Ball comes out and plays well
Speaker 4: this season, let him do with me.
Speaker 2: No nork, what you just said. Okay, you said he
Speaker 2: couldn't develop Josh Boss.
Speaker 4: If he comes out of developing, if this offensive line
Speaker 4: coach comes out and Johns Ball plays well, we are correct.
Speaker 4: Then what we said he's thinking. Time to take it
Speaker 4: out of them. He just got in the back of
Speaker 4: the head with this slip. Rather already know where we're going.
Speaker 4: We're gonna need you to lean down right now.
Speaker 5: Way off topic, but uh, we're all good with signing
Speaker 5: Robbie Gold.
Speaker 3: They should go make that move.
Speaker 4: You know it's in Chicago getting great, great, dude, accurate
Speaker 4: getting Why not? Hey wait, and don't forget to give
Speaker 4: a Lamar a shout out? Lamar and his mama? All right,
Speaker 4: who negotiated that contractor she made her smooth seven point
Speaker 4: something Lamar Jackson Hiwes paid. Tell y'all how easy that
Speaker 4: deal was to get done. Just pay me a little
Speaker 4: bit more than the guy you just signed.
Speaker 2: I mean, how easy is that?
Speaker 11: Dog?
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing hard about that?
Speaker 5: Jaylen Hurst didn't get a full week. He didn't get
Speaker 5: a thank get a full week.
Speaker 4: Yes, And speaking of they paid him, they put weapons
Speaker 4: around him.
Speaker 2: He got O'Dell, he got up the bate the flowers.
Speaker 2: You got JK.
Speaker 4: Dobbins in the back, in the backfield, you got Mark Andrews,
Speaker 4: and hey Man, you got you got healthicism was ready
Speaker 4: for him.
Speaker 6: But you see, you got Hurts getting paid. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 6: getting paid.
Speaker 5: Three of the first four picks in the draft black,
Speaker 5: all these black quarterbacks getting paid.
Speaker 6: Brother's gonna work it out. I love to see it.
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow better get more than Justin Herbert. He got
Speaker 4: he got you know what, the man did this thing
Speaker 4: we got.
Speaker 5: So I'm justin Herbert. I'm leaning on the hey man
Speaker 5: in California taxes already, I need a little more to
Speaker 5: make these taxes work.
Speaker 4: Jacksons Barrow's gonna get man that that well, that's gonna
Speaker 4: be ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Well, at some point in time, Patrick Mahome's gonna go
Speaker 5: back there and say, I need I need this, I
Speaker 5: need this renegotiat.
Speaker 6: I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 3: Come on with legitimate, with legitimacy, with legitimacy. So my guys.
Speaker 3: It's forty f I passed the office. We gotta go.
Speaker 6: Barry Church, Yes, Harrison, Yes, sir, that's PC.
Speaker 2: Congratulations man, what's his name?
Speaker 6: You can't remember? He slipped the l s U National Champion.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: We'll try to ring you next time.
Speaker 6: I bring. I never saw it.
Speaker 3: I never saw it.
Speaker 2: There's a few of them. It's all right, that really was.
Speaker 5: There's some strong ass offers on it next time, lady guys.
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