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Speaker 1: This this He's talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Bryan Brats, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Welcome

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Speaker 1: everybody into the s WBC Mortgage studio here at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. We are ready for another great episode

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Speaker 1: with you guys. How's everyone doing? Guy, it feels like

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Speaker 1: we haven't done this in a while, don't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been though. Always to me, you get such

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Speaker 1: a in such a rhythm, you know, we haven't had

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Speaker 1: that in a while. And now and then we're sitting

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Speaker 1: there thinking, Okay, now we got OTA's about to get

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Speaker 1: into that rhythm. So that's what's different. That's what's football

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Speaker 1: is back. It's football is back. How are you doing, Mickey?

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Speaker 1: It was back last week. I mean Vet's back. Rookie minicamp. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you call that. Meetings on the field. That

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Speaker 1: was cool, ye, meetings. You're right. There are owners meetings

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Speaker 1: going on this week in Atlanta as well as the OTAs.

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Speaker 1: Starting today here for the guys, the full first team

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Speaker 1: activity for them to all get underway, and we'll have

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Speaker 1: media availability tomorrow, right, But this is the first thing

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Speaker 1: going on this week which I wanted to get into

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Speaker 1: some things that will help understand what this team will

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Speaker 1: look like in twenty eighteen. You know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of change. A lot happened this offseason, of course, different releases, retirements,

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Speaker 1: the rookie class. So I wanted to pose a few

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Speaker 1: questions to you guys and see what you think will

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Speaker 1: be answered during the OTAs. And Mickey, doing his due diligence,

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Speaker 1: was just kind of, you know, using our surroundings here

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Speaker 1: at the Star and checking out what's going on. And

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Speaker 1: I think you ractually got to my first question before

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Speaker 1: you realized it when you walked in here, he said,

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Speaker 1: I was looking to see who would replace Dez, kind

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Speaker 1: of being around the different locker room and different things. Yeah, so, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: the question I have for you is who do you

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Speaker 1: think during this OTAs in the locker room might be

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Speaker 1: that stepping up, you know, void, filling for the leadership

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Speaker 1: and passion presence that of course Jason Witton and Dez Bryant.

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Speaker 1: I have no clue they got helmets on out there

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Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, I was looking to see who

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Speaker 1: was going to be the last one out of the

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Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah, because Dez was usually the last guy

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Speaker 1: out of the locker room, so he can make his

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Speaker 1: entrance sort of the way Michael Irvin used to do

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Speaker 1: back in the day. Yea. And they were still trickling

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Speaker 1: I was kind of looking for eighty three. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: seeing if he's around. Well, he's been rehabbing, so we

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Speaker 1: may not see a lot of him. Well, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to take part in there in the drills, but

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe he'd be out there unless he's trying

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Speaker 1: to paint that light pole that he supposedly hit. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this though, in question though eighty three

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Speaker 1: leader for you? Then, my god, no, because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the personality to do it. Yeah, and he's not

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Speaker 1: in the locker room that much anyway, so you got

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Speaker 1: to go search and find him in the first place. Sure,

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Speaker 1: somebody's it's not going to happen until they start playing games,

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Speaker 1: so they start getting into training camp. I mean, who

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Speaker 1: who's gonna as a wide receiver, who's gonna step up

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Speaker 1: and talk other than I'd Beasley was always there right? Sure?

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Speaker 1: All right? Hearns got to earn his way, right, Thompson

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Speaker 1: got to earn his way, Gallop got to earn his way.

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Speaker 1: I know Tavon Austin was here immediately after the draft weekend.

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Speaker 1: He was here that Monday, and I'd be curious to

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Speaker 1: see how his personality is going to mesh with this group.

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Speaker 1: You know, he looks, at least from the social media

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Speaker 1: aspect of what he's posted and put out there, looks

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Speaker 1: like he's got a you know, vibrant personality. He has fun,

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Speaker 1: he dances and videos. I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 1: seeing how that will fit. Yeah, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: like a Tyrant Smith or a of course Sean Lee,

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Speaker 1: that type of a person. There was a story a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago where Tyron Smith got in front

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Speaker 1: And it was kind of surprising to hear because, like

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Speaker 1: And I think that's important without Witten here, because I

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Speaker 1: think he was Michael Irvin like Mickey's reference, where he's,

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Speaker 1: you know, the pied piper and always talking, always talking,

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Speaker 1: it depends on what type of leadership. You know, different things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: about their business. To Bryant's point, let's not mistake doing

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Speaker 1: a leader. Yeah, we don't know everything that goes on.

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Speaker 1: Joe Luny, I'll talk every day if you want to.

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Speaker 1: But I think that we're starting to see more. I'm

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Speaker 1: not taking it as leadership, as leadership, as media interviews.

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Speaker 1: I'm just taking it as a guy that we don't

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Speaker 1: always see step Travis Frederick steps up for the offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin is stepped up. I know that. But I'm

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need somebody. They're gonna need somebody in that room.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be is is dynamic as

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. Oh, these rookies are so excited

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Speaker 1: you'll see how things change pretty quickly. Oh, Connor Williams

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Speaker 1: gets used to working with that group of offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: exactly because you're coming from a different system. College is

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Speaker 1: did a good thing of having those rookies out there

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Speaker 1: watching the strength and conditioning workouts over the last since

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Speaker 1: they've been here absolutely two weeks. Yep. They didn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: of them gonna be starstruck when they sit there and

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Speaker 1: they line up. Yeah, but let's be honest here though,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of veterans that are the same boat.

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Speaker 1: We got a whole new group of coaches out there too. Right,

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Speaker 1: These drills and the way things are going to be

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Speaker 1: it this way. I mean there's drills that they're having

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Speaker 1: to learn. I mean there's actually some excuse me, Roun,

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Speaker 1: there's some there's even footing in a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: watch Chris Roshard with the young secondary guys more than anything. Yeah, yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, Mickey brought up the rookies

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Speaker 1: getting starstruck, but some of these rookies also have the ability.

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Speaker 1: You know, we brought up Terrence Williams maybe not practicing

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Speaker 1: and participating with the foot rehab. They have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: here in these OTAs to at least show flashes. Cam

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Speaker 1: Kelly has been a name of undrafted rookie that people

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Speaker 1: keep throwing around that he has an opportunity during these

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have somebody make this team. It's an undrafted rookie, Tay,

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Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right about they always do. Yeah, there,

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Speaker 1: it might be two, it might be three guys. That's

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Speaker 1: their undrafted class. But you're mentioned cam Kelly. Yes, there's

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Speaker 1: guys that now have a fresh start. There's some guys

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Speaker 1: Ques White from Florida State. In the old system, he

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Speaker 1: of the way he physically looks. He has the talent

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad basically the whole year. He now

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Speaker 1: has a fresh start. With the way this current coaching

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Speaker 1: maybe Christopher Shard's opinion of Byron Jones's yeah, I saw

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Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, it's like, okay, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is a little short for me. Well, now

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Speaker 1: Christoph Shard that I can play a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: Christ Shard is definitely on there, and we're getting a

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Speaker 1: little excited about it because he is an exciting name

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Speaker 1: to talk about. But out of the guys that you've

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Speaker 1: some rookie minicamp, who do you think is going to

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Speaker 1: think I think Gallup has an opportunity right off the bat,

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Speaker 1: Michael Michael Gallup third round picked to get some extra

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Speaker 1: They're back out there, one step closer to the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen season. And while we've been in the offseason, we've

427
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Speaker 1: been talking a lot about what this Dak friendly term

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Speaker 1: really means. We've heard it thrown around different people trying

429
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Speaker 1: to understand it. Well, we heard from Dak last Wednesday

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Speaker 1: at the Reliant Energy home run Derby. He was speaking

431
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Speaker 1: to the fact that it's not really Dak friendly. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's now boys friendly. Yeah, it's Cowboys friendly. So different

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Speaker 1: different understandings, interpretations of the phrasing. I know, Rob, you've

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Speaker 1: spoken to the owners at different meetings and different things

435
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Speaker 1: like that about how they feel about it. What do

436
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Speaker 1: you think? I I think it's it's we talked about

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Speaker 1: in the break. I think it's a dumb term. I

438
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Speaker 1: really do. I think it's because it goes back. Jerry

439
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: came up with it sort of, but he said it

440
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Speaker 1: ten years ago about Romo, and when he said it,

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Speaker 1: it made a lot of sense. And I think it's

442
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Speaker 1: a general term because we're talking about two different quarterbacks now,

443
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Speaker 1: So what does that mean? It means that it's you

444
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Speaker 1: put your quarterback in the best situation possible. Every team

445
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: tries to do that, So I thought Scott Lenahan talking

446
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Speaker 1: to him about a week ago, he's about the nicest

447
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Speaker 1: guy you'll meet. But he was pretty sarcastic about it too.

448
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: He said, that's a fun Now we got a sarcastic team.

449
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: That's a that's a fun narrative term, and it is.

450
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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to build an offensive line around

451
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Speaker 1: your quarterback, good solid, dependable receivers, solid running game. Every

452
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: team's trying to do that. But and obviously they have

453
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Speaker 1: a lot invested in dec He's their guy, so clearly

454
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to do. But don't you think

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Speaker 1: that it's a fair thing that they've said and talked about,

456
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Speaker 1: because you look around the league, and I've heard you

457
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Speaker 1: guys even mention it. There are certain teams that when

458
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Speaker 1: they do kind of put everything around their franchise quarterback,

459
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: things seem to fall in place. Like going thirteen and

460
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Speaker 1: three and twenty sixteen, Yeah, you had a quarterback over

461
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Speaker 1: his first twenty four games in the league that had

462
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Speaker 1: a one or two point three quarterback rating. So what

463
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Speaker 1: wasn't friendly over the first twenty four games of his career.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a quarterback that got eased in. They threw

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Speaker 1: him to the fire. They went thirteen three. I would

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Speaker 1: have to say what wasn't friendly was something that we've

467
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Speaker 1: all addressed in here is the offensive line. Well, but

468
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Speaker 1: they still were averaging twenty eight points a game the

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Speaker 1: first eight games last year. So now you tell me

470
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Speaker 1: what changed. What changed in the last eight games the

471
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Speaker 1: offensive line? There was no backup for Tyrn Smith. There

472
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Speaker 1: was no Bay. That's not Dak friendly, that's cowboy friendly. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: there was no Zekiel Elliott for six games. There was

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Speaker 1: no Sean Lee for those games. Those are the things

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Speaker 1: that affected them. They went from averaging twenty eight points

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Speaker 1: a game to seventeen points. I think what it does

477
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Speaker 1: is it takes it a little out of context, Like

478
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Speaker 1: when Jerry created it about Romo, it's about to create

479
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Speaker 1: the best environment for Romo, for the offense, for everybody,

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Speaker 1: and now it kind of now we're attributing it to

481
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Speaker 1: Dak and it's like it's all on Dak's shoulders, and

482
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Speaker 1: it's not. It's it doesn't on the team, it's on

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Speaker 1: the entire team. And put him in the environment have

484
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Speaker 1: success and everybody else. I mean, the running game wasn't

485
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Speaker 1: the same without some of those guys that you mentioned

486
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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, the receivers too. I mean, it all

487
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of flows together. So it's an offensive thing really,

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Speaker 1: So I'm in agreement with you, Mick each other. No.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, if the owner in general manage to

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Speaker 1: come out and said a cowboy friendly thing, I think

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Speaker 1: then we all would have agreed to that. That's what

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Speaker 1: the whole idea when we when we were trying to

493
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Speaker 1: do the autopsy on the season. What were the various

494
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: things we were talking about again, offensive line you talked about,

495
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: I was talking about Cole Beasley, you know, not getting

496
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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's things Seanly, everybody had an idea

497
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Speaker 1: of what the problems were here, and they always stay, well,

498
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Speaker 1: make it friendly for the quarterback. They will make it

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Speaker 1: friendly for the team, make it friendly for everybody. That's

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Speaker 1: that's really what this is all about. That's why they

501
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Speaker 1: drafted the guys they did. They drafted another guard high,

502
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Speaker 1: they try even though they had Pro Bowl offensive lineman,

503
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Speaker 1: they knew they needed a linebacker. I mean, all these

504
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: things that they knew they needed, they went out and

505
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Speaker 1: got And that's team friendly right there. Team friendly because

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Speaker 1: that goes into the coaching staff as well. They knew

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Speaker 1: they needed to make those changes in certain coaching areas

508
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: and they did that as well. So that's a full team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that that that's you. You're absolutely it feeds into

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Speaker 1: this narrator of the oh sophomore slump for Dak, what

511
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Speaker 1: can we do to make him better? Well, it's not

512
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: just all about him. We saw that. It's it's you

513
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: gotta have Zeke on the field for sixteen games. You

514
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: got to have plays Tyrn Smith if needed. I mean,

515
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Speaker 1: it's not just Dak. And that's that's the narrative that

516
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Speaker 1: I think it kind of rubs people the wrong way,

517
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Speaker 1: and that's not the way it was intended when it

518
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Speaker 1: was created. I don't know. Two thousand and eight, two

519
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Yeah, that's when Jerry said romo friendly.

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Speaker 1: It applies everything. I think it's great though that Dak

521
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Speaker 1: Prescott is not buying into that. Well, I mean, he's

522
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: always going to be it's about the team with him.

523
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Speaker 1: His success is always going to be about the team.

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Speaker 1: But I think Mickey's right, I mean, I do, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think things have changed for him and what

526
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Speaker 1: he's trying to do and how he's prepping for these

527
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Speaker 1: games and getting your ready. I think the players around

528
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Speaker 1: him affect how he plays. But you could say that

529
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Speaker 1: about anybody. Sure, you can say about any quarterback in

530
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. It is it's about the team.

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Speaker 1: How can I get better offensive lineman? How can I

532
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Speaker 1: have a better running game? How could a better offensive

533
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: play calling? These are all things that factor into the

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Speaker 1: success of the quarterback. If you don't have one or

535
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Speaker 1: two or three of these things, your quarterback is going

536
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: to get replaced every single year. Reality chuckle. A little

537
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: bit of people will say, well, everything has to be perfect,

538
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: and then you look at the Eagles, right, everything's pretty

539
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: perfect for Nick Foles, And I mean taking over for

540
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: a guy who is the starter and an all Pro

541
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: type guy, you got to have the pieces around you're not.

542
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: Does Dak need to get better, Absolutely, He's talked about it.

543
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: He needs to, you know, pretty much everything, accuracy, footwork,

544
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff that's part of being a third year quarterback.

545
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: Who's what is he twenty four years old? And staying

546
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: off his back. Yeah, your realiz. He was sacked thirty

547
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Speaker 1: two times last year. Twenty two were in the last

548
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: eight games, no question. That means ten in the first

549
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: eight games. So what happened, Yeah, yeah, what happened was

550
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: what you just said they didn't have happened back up. Yeah,

551
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: what happened is they took a second round pick and

552
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: they went out and spent money in free agency on

553
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Speaker 1: a couple of offensive linemen and still drafted a guy

554
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: das which allowed those guys to be the backup now

555
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: instead of to move Lale Collins. And they took the

556
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: heat on the thing in Atlanta. Yeah, I did. We've

557
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: talked a lot about Chris Rochard and we've talked about

558
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: Sanjay Law. How do you guys think Paul Alexander will

559
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: be able to help this offensive line group? And well

560
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: he specifically be able to help Chaz Green? Well, I hope.

561
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: So that's all going to be about confidence with him. Yeah,

562
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: you gotta see if he's I just can't believe it.

563
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: Chaz Green is that bad? Yeah? And he's not, and

564
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: he's not, you know, but that they did him no favors.

565
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: They did him no favors playing him at guard, and

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Speaker 1: we and the head coach has been very forthright about that. Hey,

567
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have played. We should have probably kept a tackle.

568
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: It was more important to this team to have a

569
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Speaker 1: suitable backup left tackle than it was to have a

570
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Speaker 1: starting left guard. He's got Willie Anderson, Paul Alexander, one

571
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Speaker 1: of his former players, Willie Anderson coming in. Maybe working

572
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Speaker 1: with these guys one on one. That guy's been a

573
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Speaker 1: pro bowler in this league, maybe that can help. He's

574
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: worked in a lot of different systems. He's worked with

575
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: different guys, groom different guys for starting roles. He's got

576
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: experience to do it for chats. I just think it's confidence.

577
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: You got to find a way to forget about it.

578
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: Don't reinvent the wheel here. Yeah, don't reinvent the wheel.

579
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: You've got three all pro linemen, you know, find a

580
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: way to play to their strengths. Find a way to

581
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: coach them the best you can. If you want to

582
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: develop Connor Waves, let Connor Williams watch these guys play.

583
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: Playing between Tyren Smith and Travis Frederick will be the

584
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: best education he can ever. Get back to Rob and

585
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Mickey's point about Chads Green's confidence, I think there is

586
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: something to do that, and luckily we were able to

587
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: kind of get an insider look that we normally wouldn't

588
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: have seen with All or Nothing the Amazon show. You know,

589
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: everyone was looking at that Week eight game against the

590
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons and what went wrong. Now, the game plan

591
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: was bad, Well, if you're looking at you know, they

592
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: were able to film practice and something that really caught

593
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: my attention was that they were building up Chatz throughout

594
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: that week. They were building them up. You know, they

595
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: kept saying, oh, you got this, Chads, break us down

596
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: in the huddle, You've got this. And if you watch

597
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: who he was going up against in practice, he was

598
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: mainly going up against Taco Charlton. Yeah, and you know,

599
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: in all respect to Taco Charlton, he's a rookie who's

600
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: still getting at We've talked about what his expectations were

601
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: in the development there, but he almost had this false

602
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: sense of confidence going into the Atlanta Falcons game because

603
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: of the fact that they're like, oh, you've got this

604
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: year taken over. I think that to me, maybe it

605
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: wasn't going against Tacco. Maybe it's the fact that he

606
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: made two quality starts the year before and San Francisco confidence. No,

607
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was false at all. I think

608
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: he played well against the Chicago Bears and Cincinnati and

609
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: our San Francisco. He made those starts. He wasn't terrible

610
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Speaker 1: in those games. In the Atlanta game, it started going bad.

611
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: We've talked about this. It started going bad and then

612
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: it got worse because he just lost his technique. He

613
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: lost It's like he forgot what he was doing out

614
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: there and it just snowball and got worse. Let me

615
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: tell you what pressure from offensive line plays sometimes is

616
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: also manufactured by what happens on the outside. If you're

617
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: not running round and not getting open and not finding

618
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: space out there, and the quarterbacks having to hold the

619
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Speaker 1: football because he's not sure because every ball he's thrown

620
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: that's gone inside on slant's been knocked up in the

621
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: air and brought back on him at times. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think those are the things that you start to

623
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: think about a little bit. So again, it's not all

624
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Speaker 1: on Chad's Green, and I'm not trying to defend Chaz Green,

625
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: but I have seen him play better than he played,

626
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. And the right defensive end

627
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about the running back going to

628
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: the house on any play, No doubt they didn't care.

629
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris nice, but he's not going to threaten the

630
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: back end of the defense. Zeke's not there. So all

631
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: they did is Clayborne said, Okay, I'm pitting my ears

632
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: back and I'm going after the quarterback because he's the

633
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: only guy that can beat me. Couldn't stop him on

634
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: defense in the second half. Basically Chumley went out with

635
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: an injury. I mean, what was the score at halftime? Yeah, yeah,

636
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Speaker 1: see that to me there, you're still in the ball

637
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Speaker 1: game right there. They just could not get a stop

638
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Speaker 1: or two that they needed in order to help as Green.

639
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: It's amazing how we're still talking about that game because

640
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: we need to be, because it's it's the game. The

641
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: reason why Connor Williams is here. I don't dis said it.

642
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. It was almost traumatizing for this team. Yeah,

643
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Scott Lenahan said it all thinking about through

644
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Speaker 1: us back and maybe and maybe the reason why the

645
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Speaker 1: receiver's here because he's going to find a way to

646
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Speaker 1: get open. He's gonna separate, he's gonna run his routes

647
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Speaker 1: and be able to find space. There's a lot of

648
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Speaker 1: factors Hey, that might have been the job, and that

649
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: might have been the thing that got the offensive line

650
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Speaker 1: coach fired himself. I mean think we're talking Chaz Green. Well,

651
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: the next guy that went in was no better, no

652
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Speaker 1: Byron Bell, right, and they kept him the exactly he

653
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: was on the fifty three the whole season, and then

654
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's starting and he was just

655
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Speaker 1: as bad. Yeah, that's that a lot of changes happened

656
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Speaker 1: in that one game, A lot of changes that you

657
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Speaker 1: and you but is a stab. You gotta hope, Hey,

658
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Speaker 1: but I hope they just don't just discard Chaz Green.

659
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: I really I hope they don't. Again, Mickey's right, it's

660
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: a confidence thing with him. Maybe Paul Alexander can help

661
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: him a little bit there, or at least he'll teach

662
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: Colombo those guys. He'll teach him how to get ketchup

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Speaker 1: out of a bottle. That's what I'm hearing about. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Mickey's referencing to the fact that Paul Alexander wrote a

665
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Speaker 1: book a while back and explained how he could spot

666
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman's talents based on how they poured a ketchup bottle. Yeah,

667
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: you know why. It's smarts take smarts to pour ketchup.

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Speaker 1: I love it. That's what it is. You don't have

669
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Speaker 1: to be a hey man to keep pounding. You have

670
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Speaker 1: to figure out how to get the air out of

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Speaker 1: the bottle, so the ketchup comes out. Technique. That's technique.

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Speaker 1: So you squeeze at the fifty seven. Huh fundamentals. I'm

673
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Speaker 1: glad you brought up William because I don't know if

674
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: you saw his tweet that was going around last week

675
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: of him he filmed Tyren Smith out there. He said,

676
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: I love watching this guy do sets. He's just snabsolute

677
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Speaker 1: pro and I mean, you really don't see Tyrn doing

678
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: that too frequently. But hopefully Willie gets these guys kind

679
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: of out of their comfort zones. I'll tell you what

680
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I was impressed. And we talk a little bit about Willie,

681
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: and but I was in Paul Alexander was not here

682
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: the weekend of the rookie camp and Mark Colombo was

683
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Speaker 1: running the drills, and I liked what I saw from

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Speaker 1: Mark Colombo. Mark Colombo is going to be one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that will be an offensive line coach for someone.

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Speaker 1: He might not be offensive line coach here, but he

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Speaker 1: will be. He will be an offensive line coach or

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Speaker 1: somebody promise you that he's got He's got the he's

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Speaker 1: got the capability of mental capabilities, he's got the experience.

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Speaker 1: He's a good teacher, he's hands on. You could see

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Speaker 1: the way he's working with the rookie guys that they

692
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: were getting a little bit better with the drills from

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Speaker 1: practice to practice because of what Mark Colombo was able

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Speaker 1: to do. If you want some insight, I was told

695
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Speaker 1: on Paul Alexander, go listen to his commencement speech. He

696
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Speaker 1: went back to small college. Yeah, and I forgot to

697
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Speaker 1: do it, but I heard it was Courtland College, and uh,

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00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: they said, you'll find out a lot about how impressive

699
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: this guy is by just listening to his comment. M speed.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope he doesn't try and reinvent the wheel here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you will. I don't think you will.

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00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: But that's that's good knowledge and curiosity to see how

703
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: these guys will do with that. The other one I'm

704
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: looking at is for his new coaches is Ben Bloom,

705
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: who of course is stepping in for Eberflus. Matt Eberflus

706
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: who moved to the Indianapolis Colts, but Ben Bloom taking

707
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Speaker 1: on this linebacker coaching job, especially when he has the

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Speaker 1: first round pick in his group. Right, he's got, he's got,

709
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Speaker 1: and he's got. Also he's got a pick two in

710
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Covington as well, so he's got a couple. And yeah, exactly,

711
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Speaker 1: he's got a young group there, with the exception of

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee Jaylen Smith. I'm curious to see him work

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Speaker 1: with the guys. That's kind of somebody I'll be eyeing tomorrow. Yeah,

714
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: and again, this is this is a team that that

715
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: needed linebackers. And now now you've really here, you've drafted

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Speaker 1: a couple, you've signed one too. They signed the from

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Speaker 1: the Packers, Joe Thomas, Joe Thomas from the Packers. So

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00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: they're trying to remake this group. You might here's a

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Speaker 1: group that might have another young or maybe the fifth

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: or six guy is another young guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: just keep an eye on that. I don't think that

722
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: position is far from settled yet. I think there's gonna

723
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: be some players that are gonna move around. I think

724
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna use the waiver wire. I think they potentially

725
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: can make some trades. That's a position to me that

726
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: that you cannot be bad at. We've seen what happens

727
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Speaker 1: when you're bad at linebacker and get exposed at depth,

728
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: because all it takes is one or two injuries, right,

729
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: and saw it last year. And Ben Bloom is gonna

730
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Speaker 1: have to be He's gonna have to He's gonna have

731
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Speaker 1: to teach these guys. He's gonna have to be. He's

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Speaker 1: an attention to detail guy. That's one of the things

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Speaker 1: when he first got here, that was one of the

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Speaker 1: things that Rob Ryan always talked that he knew the

735
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Speaker 1: defense better than anybody else. So he's always he's Since

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Speaker 1: Rob has left, he's taken a reduced role almost. I

737
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: always make joke of his He had like basically one

738
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Speaker 1: foot in the parking lot, you know. I mean, he

739
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,880
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740
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Speaker 1: so happened this one came about. So he's got a

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Speaker 1: veteran leader in Sean Lee. He's got a lot of

742
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Speaker 1: young kids. Though. That's a position that is not settled

743
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Speaker 1: by any means. He's gonna have to grab that by

744
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: the horns and run that group through and get the

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Speaker 1: best three guys, four guys, five guys, whatever he has

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Speaker 1: to do to help this defense. Because they can't be

747
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: bad at that position. Again, It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: if he carries over his enthusiasm he showed with the

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00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,600
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Speaker 1: about his vocal in attention to detail four practices. Then

751
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I'd seen them in four years, just constantly teaching. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the other good thing about this deal now is

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00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: the nickel passing game and the secondary, he's kind of

756
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,520
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757
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: going to keep an eye on maybe the young coach

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,800
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Speaker 1: got time to vote? Real quick? Is the voting close?

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's close. Well, my dunn't vote make a difference? No, okay, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Could you never vote for anything that? Would you vote

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Speaker 1: today in the primaries? No? I did not. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: got till seven o'clock. Okay, where you're out of time?

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Speaker 1: Nice drop, Doug, appreciate that. All right. You said last

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818
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Speaker 1: it's remained to be seen for me, you think so.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But there are some questions on this roster.

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Speaker 1: So my question today which position concerns you depthwise that

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00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: they still have questions about? And I got four options

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Speaker 1: for your defensive tackle Malie Collins out right now, wide

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Speaker 1: receiver No Terence Williams at this time, recovering safety. Boy.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about that position a lot or tight end

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Speaker 1: without the goat. That's interesting. Which way do you go,

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Speaker 1: Mick wide receiver? Why? Because I'm not sure who the

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Speaker 1: starters are, let alone what the depth is. So if

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Speaker 1: I ain't got a lead guy, I'm worried about who's

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Speaker 1: behind them? Can I ask a question real quick? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they keep talking about that they don't have they don't

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Speaker 1: need a lead guy. Yeah, you sound like you're not

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Speaker 1: too happy with that. It's like when someone tells me

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Speaker 1: they've got two starting quarterbacks. They have no starting quarter right,

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Speaker 1: so you're saying they have somebody's got to be a threat. Okay,

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Speaker 1: somebody's got to be a threat. So you're not buying

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Speaker 1: the I don't need a number one receiver bit? Uh? No,

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Speaker 1: is the Tom Brady analogy a bad one because it's

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Like it's Tom tom Brady has had a

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Speaker 1: great receiver like once in his career, like a great

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Speaker 1: great receiver h Randy Moss. Yeah, and other than that,

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Speaker 1: he's had a lot of really good to average receivers.

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Speaker 1: How much better Tom Brady quarterback? And usually New England's

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Speaker 1: defense too, by the way, it's been pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm about that's my vote. I voted

845
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Okay, I don't think they have that position

846
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: settled at all. I really don't, and I don't think

847
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: behind it. If you can, you can, you can tell

848
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: me all you want about Brian Price and Jihad Ward

849
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: and all those guys. Until I see it, I'm I'm

850
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: not gonna go there. Jihad Ward better be a player.

851
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: He'd better be a player for them. If he's not,

852
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: then that this team is. And Will McClay and Marinella

853
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: obviously have a vision for the player, but that day

854
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: do not that with with Malik Collins out. I thought

855
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: that's why going after, going after McClain was going to

856
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: be a big thing. You get him back in now

857
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: you can kind of settle some things down. But I

858
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: don't think they've settled that thing down at all. Feeling

859
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: he didn't want to be here McClain, I don't think

860
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: if he wanted to be here, he wouldn't have like

861
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: spin around all day like he's waiting they you know,

862
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: it didn't sound like it was money. Hey what yet,

863
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: one I got one? I got one. I went with safety,

864
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: all right. I felt like that was obvious. But I

865
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: do think that it's manageable, and I'm gonna pull a

866
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: Mickey Specnola here and I have a ride in one

867
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: because I really read the question and to me, when

868
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: you said which roster positions depth concerns you, I think

869
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: at this point this is a ninety man roster we're

870
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: working with and that will be the case until September ninth.

871
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: They opened at Carolina, right. But when I was reading this,

872
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: the guy that kind of concerns me that you know,

873
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: hopefully in the off season he's had a chance to

874
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: recuperate and get back to the guy we know and love,

875
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: and that's Dan Bailey. The kicker position depth currently does

876
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: concern me because of the fact that what we saw

877
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: at the end of last season was not the Dan Bailey,

878
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl Dan Bailey that I felt like we

879
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: had seen in years before. Of course, he's been dealing

880
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: with the ailing back, but I wonder in the off season,

881
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about these guys getting extra reps,

882
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: getting things doing. Dan Bailey is notorious for being here

883
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: at the Star, for recovering, rehabbing. But the one thing

884
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: that does kind of concern me is that his loved coach,

885
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: Rich Spasaccia is now out at Oakland coaching for the Raiders.

886
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: I know he loves Keith O'Quinn, the guy who is

887
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: now the special team's coordinator. But Dan Bailey, will he

888
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: be able to come back from last year's injuries? Have

889
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: the confidence because you talk about confidence and players, there's

890
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: no one player on that team that needs more confidence

891
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: than Dan Bailey. Yeah, that's that's a good one. I

892
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: like right. I talked to him a couple of weeks

893
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: ago at an event, and he said, getting healthy, getting

894
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: back in a rhythm, feeling good. So but once we

895
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: get out there, we'll have to see. I think it

896
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: just I think it kind of snowballed on him a

897
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: little bit too, you know, just being out of rhythm.

898
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: I think he came back pretty much healthy, but is

899
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: it's like a golf swing, that kicking deal, you know,

900
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: and it can kind of go south mentally at times.

901
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: I think that might have been something I had to

902
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: do with them. That's a good write. Ind we all

903
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: have the different votes. I like that. I don't always

904
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: get that. I got tied end. I said, when you

905
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: got nine total catches among your tight end group all

906
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: by Jeff Swim, there's a concern. Yeah, a little bit.

907
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: And I think Dalton Schultz is gonna be a good player.

908
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: I think Jeff Swim is an underrated guy. But you

909
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: gotta have somebody step up there. Who won safety fifty

910
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: one percent? I'm with the people. Everybody else was around

911
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: fifteen percent. And there's there's by the way, there's one

912
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: position with no depth whatsoever. What's that quarterback? Well, it's

913
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, depending depending Yeah, yeah, but there's no depth.

914
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm not. I'm not as down I'm

915
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: You're not saying you're down. No, I'm not saying I'm down,

916
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: But I'm saying if you're like White, and I might,

917
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: you might you like Mike White, But is he ready

918
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: to go in at the drop of a hat with

919
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: no practice all week? You know you're about I didn't

920
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: say veteran. I just said somebody proven. You asked depth,

921
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: there's no depth. Two years ago, you wouldn't have said

922
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: the same thing about Dak Prescott, wouldn't you know. Yeah,

923
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: he surprised me. Yeah, yeah, a better player. Okay, I

924
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: value Dak didn't have to be the backup. Yeah, he

925
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: got to practice right all week, all the rest of

926
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: the office. He surprised me All the preseasons. How much

927
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: work do you think Mike White's gonna get. Oh, if

928
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: they're smart, they throw them out there quite a bit.

929
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: It You said proven Mickey, and I like that phrase.

930
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: Who is proven out there? That could be a possibility

931
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys? Is there anybody out there available to

932
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't think you want to waste

933
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: money on a veteran, But I'm just saying you at

934
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: the question was depth, and there's no depth. I think

935
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: they've decided. We traded draft pick for Matt Castle, we

936
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: invested in Mark Sanchez. Where did that get us? We

937
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: might as well j Now, Jerry's not expecting. I don't

938
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: think every guy they invest in a young guy to

939
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: be Dak Prescott, but you might as well invest in

940
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: a young guy and hope that your your development can

941
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: turn him into something as opposed to a guy who's

942
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: probably on the downside of his career. I think they're

943
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: done with that. How much does Kellen Moore help in

944
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: this instance of the fact that he was literally on

945
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster last season. Now he's in

946
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: the role as quarterback coach and he's having to kind

947
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: of give those mental reps to these guys, because of

948
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: course it's a lot different than the romo Wednesdays that

949
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: those other vetter in quarterbacks you mentioned, we're able to

950
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: benefit from. It's a good name. We didn't even mention

951
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: Kellen far As coaches, Kellen Moore being there to kind

952
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: of help these guys, And I like what Mickey said,

953
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: prove themselves, prove themselves worthy of being behind Dak Prescott.

954
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: I think where it helps. I think where Kellen Moore

955
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: helps is he could be the buffer between the offensive

956
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 1: coaches and the quarterbacks that if a guy, if Mike

957
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: White has a problem, if Cooper Rush has a problem,

958
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: even if Dak Prescott has a problem, he can go

959
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: into those players can go into Kellen Moore and say, hey, listen,

960
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: this is my issue, this is the problem having then

961
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: you have then you have Kellen Moore. And I've sat

962
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: in these staff meetings before where you have the buffer

963
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: coaches that come in and they kind of explain to everybody, hey,

964
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: this guy has this issue. We start talking about cutting

965
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: guys like translators, Yes, exactly exactly. Kellen Moore will be

966
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: able to translate. It's easier for someone a quarterback or

967
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: any position to walk into a coach and say, hey, listen,

968
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: this is my issue. Instead of going into Scott Lenahan's

969
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: office or going into the head coach's office, it's easier

970
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: for him just to walk into the position coach and say, hey,

971
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm having a problem here and we need

972
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: to think I like this as part of the game plan.

973
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to work as part

974
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: of the game plan. So I think that's where Kellen Moore,

975
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: to least his first year, he's going to be that

976
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: buffer that helps the quarterbacks as a group if they're

977
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: having issues and being able to be on the field

978
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: to kind of as Scott and Jason those guys are

979
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: coaching guys up. Then you'll see, you know, Kellen will

980
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: have the game plan or as the practice sheet in

981
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: his hand and he'll be walking them through Okay, hey,

982
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: look for this, look for this, look for this. I

983
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: think that's where he's going to be the most helpful.

984
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: That's a huge benefit. I think that's a great advantage

985
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: he can add to this team. Yeah well yeah, so safety,

986
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: huh I guess what one? Yes, big big see see.

987
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: People are still dreaming about getting that guy from Seattle.

988
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: That's their dream Earl Thomas. However, Yeah, they're still dreaming

989
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: about that. They really are. They just you know, and

990
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: we've talked about it. We talked about it on the

991
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: draft show leading up. We thought they were gonna trade

992
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: for you know, for more. You know, they were trying

993
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: to move up. No, they were moving up for Armstrong

994
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: in the draft. So you know they're there. They obviously

995
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: feel like that the guys they got, and I just

996
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be initially the OTA's and then

997
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: into training camp, and if it doesn't work out the

998
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: way they think it's gonna work out, then I think

999
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: you could see them making a deal. I really do.

1000
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna go into those things. They're

1001
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna let these young guys fail. They're gonna let for now,

1002
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna let Xavier Woods fell. Mickey's talked about what's

1003
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: happened potentially what happened with Byron Jones. If the things

1004
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: don't work out for Byron Jones, you could bring him

1005
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: back to safety. I think that's kind of their little

1006
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: bit of they're as in their whole. If things don't

1007
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: work out, then okay, well we need Byron Jones to

1008
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: move back to safety. May you have a little faith.

1009
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: I just its like, no, I'm just saying it's a

1010
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: possibility because you you're gonna not many corners. I don't

1011
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: think is wrong, and somebody's gonna get eliminated. But we've said,

1012
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: if you're going to move him out there, you're probably

1013
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: moving out him out to start, right right? I think so?

1014
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: But he's got to be good enough to start and

1015
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: they don't know that. What did he start four games

1016
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: at corner as a rookie and hadn't played Their sense

1017
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: he's pay four games at safety. Now if they want

1018
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: him inside, that's a different story. Then somebody's got to

1019
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: start on the outside. My point on the safety thing

1020
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: is and I'm not minimizing the safety position, and I

1021
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: think if you have a good one, it really helps

1022
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: you a ton. But I don't think any team has

1023
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: ever finished the season and said, you know what, if

1024
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: I just had a better safety, I would have made

1025
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Am I right? I think if you if

1026
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: you use that as an excuse, not an excuse. Barry

1027
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Church was a stabilizing presence for them a couple of

1028
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: years ago when they won thirteen games AFC Championship game.

1029
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: Last year, I understand when he came back from that

1030
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: broken arm. I think they gave up less big plays.

1031
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: It's important. I think everybody felt very grateful for Jeff

1032
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: heath Is the safety when he rushed Derek Carr against

1033
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: that goal line and saved them in the Oakland Raiders

1034
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: at the end of December interceptions last year, the near

1035
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: Tomas he is the goat well, but Nicky you question though,

1036
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: I think though, if you look at what happened in

1037
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers game, they were bad at corner, and they

1038
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: were bad in the back end with some of the

1039
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: plays that were going down the field. I think that's

1040
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: when you make the determination that we've got to do

1041
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: something different. If it's different it's slot corner, if it's

1042
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: different at right corner, left corner, we gotta do something

1043
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: different at safety though too. I mean, I think that's

1044
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: where the determinations personally. If I think if Connor Williams

1045
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: wasn't on the board at fifty, they would have made

1046
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: the pick, they would have traded for Earl Thomas. I

1047
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: do believe that with my heart. But they like they

1048
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: thought more of they thought more of Connor Williams than

1049
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: they did Earl Thomas. I'm just hoping that poor Byron

1050
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Jones can figure it out this year, going into his

1051
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: fourth season. You know, I got a chance to talk

1052
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: to him in the off season and I said, oh,

1053
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's talking about where you're gonna be playing again.

1054
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: He goes, I just wish I could go into an

1055
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: off season and know where I'm playing. And it was

1056
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: funny because we're around some other people, and he goes,

1057
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: it's like, if you're a pilot and they keep telling you, Okay,

1058
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: you're the best pilot, go fly the plane, go fly

1059
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: the plane, but you're also a great personality. You could

1060
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: be a great flight attendant. Go to this. Well, eventually

1061
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: the plane's gonna crash because you don't figure out who's

1062
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: the pilot and who's the flight attendant. Yeah, And so

1063
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: that's how he feels right now, is that he doesn't

1064
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: know how he is going to be best utilized if

1065
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: they've picked up his option, though, too. That's a pretty

1066
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: big commitment right there, to saying, Okay, we're gonna try

1067
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: and figure it out whatever whatever. If you're the pilot

1068
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: of the stewardess, we're going to figure out which one

1069
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: you are by picking up his option, I wonder if

1070
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: there is some confidence that he can get from having

1071
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: a guy like Richard come in who has a track record, legion,

1072
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: a boom. I know what I'm looking for. I scouted

1073
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: you at Yukon coming out of the draft as a

1074
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: corner I know exactly how to use you. Maybe he's

1075
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna trust in that and we'll see how it goes.

1076
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: Minor standing is they're going to play the technique at

1077
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: the corner in man differently from inside hip to outside

1078
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: hip or outside hip to inside hip, which may be

1079
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: more conducive for him playing on the outside. Hey, he

1080
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: knew what he was the last two years. He was

1081
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: a safety, right, and they moved him into the slot right. So,

1082
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: and the problem to me was when he went into

1083
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: the slot because Orlando Scandrick didn't want to play, then

1084
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: you got Cavon Frazier deep and single safety. Right that

1085
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: that can happen again, No, you know, it's got to

1086
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: either be Jeff Heath or Xavier Woods. But again they

1087
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: needed Xavier Woods to go into the slot. See, I

1088
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: don't know what Xavier Woods is with this organization. He's

1089
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: been bouncing around since he got here. You're right, I

1090
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: don't I don't quite know what his you know, well,

1091
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: he you know we've got You've got a couple of

1092
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: guys that potentially could be slot corners. When you talk

1093
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: about Lewis Brown, Xavier Woods was your slot corner last

1094
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: five games of the season. Where does his role now?

1095
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be a true free safety? I don't

1096
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: know if you play him down. I don't know if

1097
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: he's physical enough to play down in the box area.

1098
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: I think Heath plays down. Is Xavier Woods is at

1099
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: free safety? Yeah, and then Lewis and and Anthony Brown

1100
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: are your slot guys. But she talked. He talked to

1101
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: people in the organization. They'll tell you though, they like

1102
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath playing deep where he can break on ball,

1103
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: where he can run. That he doesn't get to use

1104
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: his quickness and his burst when he plays down. So

1105
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: somebody play him deep and let him run. That's that

1106
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: was their play. Well, if you look at how Rashard

1107
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: has played his defense in Seattle, yeah, they play a

1108
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: lot of single safety high. So if that's Jeff Heath, fine,

1109
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: and that frees up the other guys. What does that

1110
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: do for Xavier Woods If you're putting him down in

1111
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: the box and he's not opening the other the other

1112
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: maybe they play more dying and he put him in.

1113
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: See that's where Marinelli we had this discussion. Marinilli doesn't

1114
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: want to play a bunch of dime. I mean he is,

1115
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: he said, he goes it give me an opportunity to

1116
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: play more nickel is what he wants might be their strength. Yeah, yeah,

1117
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna say dime would be their

1118
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: strength making well, if you have enough corners that can

1119
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: also play the run. When we talk to him after practice,

1120
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: he felt like he was playing too much dime and

1121
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: it felt like it hurt him. He says, if I

1122
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: could play more nickel, I want to do that because

1123
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: that means that's that helps him in the running game

1124
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: as well. So then is that a personnel issue? Yeah,

1125
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: you got to use what's best, what you've got to

1126
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: work with. Yeah, and you hope Sean Lee is on

1127
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, yes, Sean Lee can never leave that field. No,

1128
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: we've realized that very thoroughly. Well, maybe they've got a

1129
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: possibility now if Jalen Smithkin playing vander Esh is what

1130
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: he is, yeah, um, then maybe you have a possibility there.

1131
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: The best thing that Vanderesh can do in my opinion,

1132
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: guys is cover. That's the best. That's his best trait

1133
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: that I saw on tape. Now can he develop this

1134
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: stuff the instincts and you know if he's you know,

1135
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: watching Sean Lee. You know the one thing Shan Lee

1136
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: doesn't get blocked because he knows okay formation, balls going

1137
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: that way, I going, you know that kind of thing.

1138
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: So that's where that's where Layton vanderesh. He can't be

1139
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: like slow reading. You got to read fast and flow

1140
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: and get out of there so you don't get blocked.

1141
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: If you can maintain that ability you used to maintain

1142
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: that separation, then you're going to make a lot of plays.

1143
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm feeling very happy to see the foot brace off

1144
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: of Jalen Smith as well, So yes, Sat, we'll see

1145
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: how long that lasts. But if that's a separate right direction,

1146
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean when he was when he was hitting in

1147
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: that home run derby, he didn't have any problem with

1148
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: planting his left foot and swinging, so that's a good sign.

1149
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But again, it's getting back to playing football. Yeah, um,

1150
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: it's almost time to go out. You know what. I

1151
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: double checked the elusive light pull too. By the way,

1152
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: this morning. You are good, you're and I still can't

1153
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: find one that's gotten done in it. No skyblue pet

1154
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: curve of sky blue paint either. We're gonna have to

1155
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: find that, all right. Well, it is May twenty second,

1156
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and if you guys are listening, that means

1157
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: that where the start of OT is. So this episode

1158
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: in particular will be so fascinating for us to go

1159
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: back and listen to because there's a lot of talk,

1160
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation, and we just gotta sea some

1161
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: football being played. So next time we talk to you

1162
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: guys next week, we will have watched an OTA practice.

1163
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: We will have more answers for you and join us. Then,

1164
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much, and thank you Douglas for

1165
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 1: manning the production in there. We will be back next week.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.