1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Red and I 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Heart radio podcast. Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. It's Thursday, 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: scrubbing in on a Thursday. I'm so excited because we're 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: talking to Jin Roeband today and she um owns life 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: in general and she does like organizing and stuff and 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: I have so many questions. I love her. She and 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: I go way way, way way back. We'll not way 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: way way back. But I got introduced to her from Um, 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: one of my friends at church. His name is Pistol 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Pete and his name is really just Peter Um and 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: he's amazing. And I remember when I started dating Red Star, 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: he was like, you have to meet Jen. She just 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: she has such a good she's the same vibe as you, 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: and she's like a you know, badass businesswoman. And she's 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: also dating a guy with kids, and she was I 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: think she's like two years ahead of me in it 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: in the process. But yeah, So I met her when 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: I started dating my boyfriend. Full circle moment, full circle moment. Um. 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: So yesterday I'm laying on my couch it's in the 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: morning and Mark text me and he goes, I'm scary. 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Text can really throw off. Sometimes Mark text individually something 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: you want something like not in a group text that 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: is unsettling. I was like, oh, what did I do? 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: And he was like, hey, can you come on the 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Morning Show? Ryan wants to talk to you? And I'm like, okay, 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: about what? And he was like, well, Tanya told him 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: about a bad habit. You have it. I like immediately 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: start racking my brain of all my bad habits, Like 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: what if I told Tanya that she's exposed me for 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: on air? And so they called me. I'm patiently waiting 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: with anxiety, and I felt bad because I was like, 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: first of all, I didn't know from Mark, didn't give 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: you any context, because for a little context there, that's 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: not little, that's must saying. Ryan Seacrest wants to talk 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: to you because of a habit. I'm a producer at heart, 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: and Ryan kind of her going on without having any 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: idea would have been better, but I was afraid she 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't come on. So I tried to if that was 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: this is going to be fun and light, This isn't 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna be some crazy thing we're doing. It's funny. I 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: think you'll enjoy it. That's all I was trying to do. 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: But I don't want to give the whole premise before 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: she comes on because it won't be as good radio. 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: Let me read this was not it's gonna be fun 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: and light. Yeah, will you come on with Ryan? He 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: wants to talk to you. That would throw me. Are 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: you kidding me about what? And he's a Tanya mentioned 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: you have a bad habit and he would like to 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: address it with you, and I said bad. I said, 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: oh mg, bad habit right now? And he said, yes, 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: stand by, that's it. That was nothing about that sound 52 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: like it was gonna be fun or like I thought, 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: when you heard bad habit, you would know it was 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: tarding this immediately. No, I'm bad happen? Okay? Well, and 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I've talked about my bad habit of 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: being late so much. It's something I'm trying to work on. 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: So I didn't know I was gonna be exposed yesterday. 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: So um, but you know, I was thinking because Ryan 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: said that he is like by the minute, like a 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: hard out, Like if he has dinner, he's like it 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: goes till seven, no later. If it's seven oh one, 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. And I was like thinking to 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: myself obviously, I don't even know if Ryan's in a relationship. 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship. But I was like, we could 65 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: never date. We would fight NonStop. Yeah, no, it would 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: be bad. But it also made me laugh because I 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: remember when I invited you over the other night for 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: Taco Tuesday, and I was like, we're gonna start eating 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: around six, but it's going to be done by eight thirty. 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: And you were like, oh, yeah, it's gonna wrap up, 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Like what does the party over? And I was like, yeah, 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: you're a little more relaxed, and you give yourself credit 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: for you. I think Probabily's like like, like, made you 74 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: a little more relaxed. Yeah, he Puny has maybe more relaxed. 75 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: That's you're a little more like chill, go with the 76 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: flow a little more. But yeah, I am working on 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: my tardiness and therapy. And Ryan was trying to be 78 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: like figure out what my deal is with your therapist. 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Ryan Seacrests, who has a lot more 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: money than me, why don't you contribute to my therapy 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: fund and then I'll ask my therapist about your problems. Well, also, 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't really think he understands how therapy works because 83 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: you can't just ask them a blanket statement, and you know, 84 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: like you can't just ask them something that they have 85 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: to know, like ask you questions about yourself and why 86 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: you are the way you are so that they can 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: kind of assess. You can't just be like, so, why 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: am why is my friend like this? My therapist would 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'm like friend Ryan secrets he is 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: like really anxious about an anal about a schedule. What's 91 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: his deeper issue there? Right, you were great and it 92 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: was great. I thought it was so fun. And my 93 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: thought while it was going on was I hope Scrubbers 94 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: are listening because this is a dream for the Scrubbers. Yes, 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: coming in with the morning show. Yeah. But I do 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: have to say, you know, I have just learned to 97 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: accept that as a part of you. It is a 98 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: part of me. But I am trying to work on it. 99 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: And the thing is, I was I always try to 100 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: explain to people I'm not tardy or late without the 101 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: anxiety of being late, Like I'm always very stressed about 102 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: being ley. And I also I'm never slowly trying to 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: get somewhere like I'm late, but I'm like busting like 104 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get there as soon as I can. 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: It's just never on time. So I stress about the 106 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: disrespect aspect of it, and I stress about um like 107 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I I do move quickly right, And they did say 108 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: that because I was. They were like saying that it's disrespecting, 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: and I don't. No, I don't feel disrespected because she 110 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: does it to herself. She's always like late to a flight, 111 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: and you know, like it's on her too. But then 112 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: I thought they said, I'm enabling you, and now I 113 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: feel like I'm enabling you. But you can't control me. 114 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean honestly, the more you try to control me 115 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: is probably gonna make it worse. So I would say, 116 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: let's not lean into that enabling mentality, because what if 117 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: we started the podcast right at the time we say 118 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: we're going to start it, We'll start it, and then 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: if I have to hop them lay at all, do 120 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: that we do that with help I sucker dating. We 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: don't have a choice. Deans never on time, so we 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: just have to start. I think that's also the problem 123 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: is that my mentality about that is like I'm not 124 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: trying to inconvenience anybody. If you have to start I'm 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: the one who has to be embarrassing and get on late, 126 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, like it just makes me look bad, Like 127 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I never want it to be inconveniencing to anybody else, 128 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Like if it's obviously something where 129 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: you can't leave until I get there, like you can't 130 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: be seated. Nothing is more stressful than when I'm like 131 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: the restaurants that don't see to the full party. They 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: make it so horrible we both parties. Honestly, it's bad 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: for the people trying to get there, is bad for 134 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the people they're waiting. But um, I am actively working 135 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: on it, so I'm not just like, should we do that, 136 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Should we start the podcast even if you're not here 137 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: on time? Sure, do whatever you want. Well, I think 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: short term, yes, maybe not forever, but I think next 139 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: week we'll start like Monday more Monday's podcast. We'll start 140 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: right on time. If she's there, she's not there. If 141 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: she's not, she's not. Okay, I'm more on time, I feel. 142 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm also I'll let y'all know if I'm 143 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: running late most most of the time, like him, five 144 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: to ten minutes behind. Yeah, but we're gonna start with 145 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: that We're gonna start no matter what Monday. It will 146 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: be a test. Okay, cool, all right, I can't wait 147 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: without further ado with somebody else that's going to organize 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: our lives. Yeah, the great segue into our guests. We 149 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: have Jin Roban and we will be right back with her. 150 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: We have a Gen Roban scrubbing in today. You know 151 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: her from her incredible company Life in General. Please welcome her. 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I literally 153 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: call you Life in General, like I just like that's 154 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: just you to me, like it's Jen Life in General. 155 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I love it. It's like part of your essence. It's 156 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: part of your essence. And I will say what you 157 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: will see this like probably on our Instagram page, but 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: behind her her background is so organized. But I want 159 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: you to tell everyone kind of like what you do 160 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: in your brand and business because I feel like I've 161 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: seen you everywhere for so long and I'm so aware 162 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: of what you do. But for those who might not know, 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: just kind of explain what you do in your massive career. Uh. 164 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: I started Life in General in two thousand and fourteen, 165 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: and I was a personal assistant before. Actually, Tanya, we 166 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: had my old boss on kiss of him Landon, he 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: played professional soccer for the Galaxy, and I remembered every 168 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: single weekend wanting to help my friends and family move 169 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: after I was moving him like he he stayed on 170 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: the same team, but just wanted to move cities like 171 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: a mile from within each other. And I remember getting 172 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: up so early, so excited, it felt like Christmas morning 173 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: every day. And then I leave my full time job, 174 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: then go help my friends and family move. And that 175 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: was really the kind of essence of how life in 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: general started, because I saw not just a physical transformation 177 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: of obviously moving as a bigger or deal than organizing 178 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: a closet or you know, a kitchen drawer, But I 179 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: saw how he felt every single day. I saw how 180 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: my friends and family felt. I mean I physically saw 181 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: the transformation, but emotionally, I feel like saw it all happen. 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: And for me, that was like the highlight of my life. 183 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: And so life in general was born with this idea 184 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: of you know, really creating order and structure around people's 185 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: homes and their lives and just how that looks for 186 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: each and each person and every single persons different. And 187 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: I always say there's no two people that are the same, 188 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: and no two houses will be the same, but it 189 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: really was. It was born with this idea of teaching 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: people what really matters. And for me, it's like connection 191 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: over collection all day, every day. Um, And it's just 192 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: been such a wild ride over the last you know, 193 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: seven years. I could not agree with you more because 194 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: I always say a cluttered house, a clutter brain, an 195 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: unorganized home, an unorganized life. I feel as though, now 196 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: I'm serious that I always say that. And it's so 197 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: interesting because if I'm like, if I have a deadline 198 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: for something and I need to turn something in right, 199 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: I get so bogged down and I'm like, I go, 200 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: like I have a stack of mail, because like my 201 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: mails just bills and like a stack it and then 202 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: I'll get through it. Right at this it was just 203 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: like this huge stack and I went through it one 204 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: day and I got rid of the stack and I 205 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: felt so good. So I'm like, if I could do 206 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: that to my whole home, do you know good that 207 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: would feel? I'm curious though, like has that been part 208 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: of your personality your whole life? Were you someone who 209 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: always kept your room clean and organized? Like did you 210 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: always clear out your closet every season change like are 211 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: you that person? Yes, I remember throw and so annoying, 212 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: like student body president, class president every year, but like 213 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: rearranging classrooms because they weren't like functioning at their max potential, 214 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: and my teachers were like, who are you the seven 215 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: year old? It's fine, Um, but I I joke because 216 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: I my friends will tell me I don't really remember it, 217 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: but they'll tell me, like we had sleepovers in middle 218 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: school and you'd be like, discard, donate, you know, it 219 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: doesn't fit like all this stuff, and I'm like, oh 220 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: my god, I was crazy all like all throughout. So um, 221 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: it definitely. I think I learned from an early age 222 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: that it really mattered on how I felt. And I 223 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: played um soccer growing up competitively, so I was gone 224 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: all the time every weekend, so when I was home, 225 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure like I wasn't spending time 226 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: so much like doing all the things, It was really 227 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: spending time with the family when I was home. So 228 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: I think I think it definitely started early, but it's 229 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: gotten progressively, like I just want to organize anything and everything, 230 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: and it just makes me feel like you were saying, 231 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: Tanya feels, so it changes everything it changed my life. 232 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: It's changed everything. I want to get into, like, for 233 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: people that are listening, some easy ways that they can 234 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, start organizing or organizing their home in their space. 235 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: And I also want to talk about just kind of 236 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: being a female entrepreneur in that beginning phase, because I 237 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: think taking that leap of faith is very scary and 238 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening might want to do that, 239 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: but they're like too scared or you know, trying to 240 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: think of all the things. So maybe some encouragement, our 241 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: words of advice. But before we get into that, I 242 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: want to get into when we met because we had 243 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: a mutual friend. Um, you know, I always talked about 244 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Pistol Pete from my church, so I had been talking 245 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: to him. He was knowing, he knew about my relationship 246 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: and at this time we were newly newly dating, and 247 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: he was like, I want to produced you. I think 248 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: he was working for you at the time because he 249 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: was like my friend slash boss Slash goes to church. 250 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, like Jen because she's also has is 251 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of in the same situation personal situation 252 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: as you, and so he connected us and I just 253 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: remember you always being so wonderful and encouraging and like, 254 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: if you ever have any questions about dating a man 255 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: with kids, um, you can always come to me. Like 256 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm also in that space, and I just remember you 257 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: being so open to like give me advice, and like 258 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: you were such a girl's girl. And I'll never forget 259 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: that because it's such a unique situation to be in 260 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: and nobody can really kind of comment or help you 261 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: unless they've been in it, and so I just remember 262 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: you being just so like wonderful to me about that. 263 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for saying, Yeah, that means a lot. I I'm 264 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: not an expert by any means, but I just remember 265 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: the things you were telling me. I'm like I went 266 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: through that, you know, just might have been two years prior, 267 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: and just having the faith and really, um, you know, 268 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: leaning in hard to like love and life and what 269 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: that looks like and knowing that it's not going to 270 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: be easy, and just being very honest and real. Um. 271 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks for saying that, because it's it's it's 272 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: definitely a journey and it will always be but like 273 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: it's so worth it when you get to the other 274 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: side of all of those the feelings and the things 275 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: and all that but it's been, um, yeah, it's been. 276 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: It's been a really amazing journey. But I'm I'm so 277 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: happy that we're on the other side. And I remember 278 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: you probably listening to people and I'm like, stay, what 279 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: we got this? Like I have a good feeling about this, yeah, 280 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: because you know, I think it's easy for people on 281 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: the outside to kind of judge a situation and just 282 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: like I don't want say judge it, but it's like 283 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: you don't really know unless you're in it. And so 284 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: just you were just always giving me encouragement and you 285 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: were like this, you know, it's a matter of the man, 286 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: and if it's the man that's the right man, then 287 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: you can work on anything. Nothing in life is easy, nothing, 288 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, yes, yes, yes, And 289 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: now she's engaged and things are going good over there. 290 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: It looks like I have a question going into a 291 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: situation where you're dating someone with kids and just bring 292 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,479 Speaker 1: trying it back to what you do and what your businesses. 293 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Was there a moment where like there was mess in 294 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: the in the house and you were like where's my place? 295 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Like do I get to organize this or do I 296 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: stay out? And it's not my responsibility. Yet so I 297 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: moved in during like March, right when the pandemic hit, 298 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: because so we added that extra layer of um sorting 299 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: through all that. But I I always wanted to be 300 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: very clear with them, you know, once they got to 301 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: know me, my heart, my soul, like my why if 302 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: you will have why I do what I do and 303 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: why I believe in it so much. And so they 304 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: joke now they're like, we'll put it away were you know, 305 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: they actually love it too because they feel the other side. 306 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: But I was very cautious of of course, like I 307 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: don't want to come in and get rid of everything. 308 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: That's not my intention. It's flipping the script of teaching kids, 309 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: especially at their age, um, saying you know, what's really 310 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: important to you. And so I remember we did like 311 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: a full house purge, and I'm like, these kids were 312 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: probably like who this was after a year of living there, um, 313 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: But they got excited and they were understanding like the 314 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: behind the scenes part of why you do it, and 315 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the teaching kids about donating items and you know, going 316 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: to families that might not have anything. So having those 317 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: real honest conversations. I think for for me that was 318 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: just the biggest thing. It wasn't like let's get rid 319 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: of your toys. It was let's make sure these have 320 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: purpose in your life and understanding of like the value 321 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: that they have, but also teaching the one in, one 322 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: out rule and how fortunate we are to have gifts 323 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it definitely was a little dance. But 324 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: my fiance dance. He's he's amazing and he's always been 325 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: so supportive of like, I know you they're going to 326 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: learn your heart in it and like you you go 327 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: to town, like do what you need to do because 328 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: he knows, like I'm not gonna, like I said, throw 329 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: everything away. Yeah, and you're like, you don't need this, 330 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: and they're like that was my favorite toy. It is interesting, though, 331 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: It's like it's an interesting because I can imagine you're 332 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: probably it's probably just innate in you, but I'm very 333 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: O C D. Like I like my things to be 334 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: in order, and like that's just how I am. And 335 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: so when you throw kids in the mix and you're 336 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: not used to it, it's just you just have to 337 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: loosen up a little bit. So I imagine it was 338 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: probably like a lot harder for you. Yeah, And I 339 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: leaned into a lot of my faith with that because 340 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's not on our plan, right, I got 341 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: a plan, and so I would come home and I'm like, 342 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: this was not what you know, but it's also meant 343 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: to be lived in. And that's like I don't want 344 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: to have a house that's like you don't want to 345 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: touch anything. I want friends to come over and mess 346 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: everything up because they have structure now of how to 347 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: put it back. They know the foundation because we've built that. 348 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: And so for me, it's like fun to also get 349 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: to see the other side, like go crazy, like let's 350 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: do all the arts and crafts. Let's during COVID, like 351 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: we we definitely were home all the time understanding like 352 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: how we can do that without, you know, with them 353 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: still living their life. I have tips, So I wanted 354 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: to know tips because I said you have tips. I 355 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: did say I have tips, but I didn't mean that. 356 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: I meant I need tips because I feel like you 357 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: and Tanya are both like it's naturally like you like 358 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: to you you can only function when it's clean, whereas 359 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I obviously prefer when things are not cluttered and clean. 360 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: But I can also function in mess. So it's really 361 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: hard for me to get motivated to do it and 362 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: my house right now, like I'm so upset I didn't 363 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: do my purge and get rid of everything before I moved, 364 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: because I have so much stuff that came with me 365 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: that is just like I don't know what to do 366 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: with it anymore, which I know we're gonna You're gonna 367 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: help me, but um, what are tips that people like 368 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: me can kind of start getting in the mindset of 369 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: of clearing out and purging and and like getting motivated 370 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: to do it. I guess I think I like the 371 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: first thing is like the giving grace, like having that 372 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: moment of understanding what your intention is for that space. 373 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: And we work with a lot of artists and they're 374 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: like that's their creative zone. So I'm not trying to 375 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: take that away from them. It's really just understanding, like 376 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: why do you want your space to look a certain way? 377 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: What do you really love? What makes you sound silly? 378 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: But like what makes you get up in the morning, 379 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: what what makes you happy? Like what are things that 380 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: I need to know about you and your life where 381 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: then I can build these build these foundations for you specifically, 382 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: because organizing is not a one size fits all. It's 383 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: definitely like different for every single person. Your home is 384 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: going to look different from Tanya's. Your wants and needs 385 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: are going to be different from Tanya's or whomever you 386 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: come in contact with. So creating that structure in your 387 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: home based around your values and based around like like 388 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: I said, like what what do you love? And so 389 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: how can we make space for those things to come 390 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: in and out? Um and understanding? Like the starting small. 391 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: I always tell people please, do not go if you 392 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: have a garage, do not go to your garage. Do 393 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: not go to your memories. Do not go to these 394 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: things that are so so much harder. It's like literally 395 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: take the I call it the joy drawer, the joy drawer, 396 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: the junk drawer in your kitchen, and just start so 397 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: small and set a timer thirty minutes, fifteen minutes, and 398 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: you'll feel like once you start pulling things out, you'll 399 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: feel like instantly better, and so that momentum will be like, Okay, 400 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: I can tackle this. Let's do another space that maybe 401 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger the next day or a week later. 402 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: Because I always say to like, everybody schedules different, So 403 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: for me, I do a Sunday reset. It's my most 404 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: favorite thing of my week, but I know that it 405 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: sets me up for success where you might not be 406 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: able to do a Sunday reset for two hours or 407 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: an hour every single Sunday. So it just is kind 408 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: of what's going on in your life to build this 409 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: lifestyle around it, and seasons change, as you know your 410 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: your life might look different a year it will hopefully. 411 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: I'm always like I want to look different and evolve, 412 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: so it's gonna look different. Or for Tania, like, there's 413 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a time when there's kids in and what 414 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: does it look like? And how can you make a 415 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: schedule that works for you? Um that feels really good 416 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: that you you want to be at home and you 417 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: don't want to feel all these other feelings of being overwhelmed. 418 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: You want to get to the other side, So how 419 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: can you create that for yourself? And it's the starting small? 420 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Is that like the best advice I can give? Yeah, 421 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I think I just in my my mind goes from 422 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: like zero to a hundred where I'm like I have 423 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: to do this all in one day or or I 424 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 1: don't want to do anything. So it's either like I 425 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: have to do it all and then I'm like I'm 426 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: in so deep that I get overwhelmed and I'm just like, 427 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it at all. So I 428 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: think I I just need help with someone who has 429 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: the excitement and like energy to help me start um. 430 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: And a lot of mine is like I get sent 431 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, you know. It's like I clear 432 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: out five boxes of stuff and and take you know, 433 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: break down the boxes and I opened the door and 434 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: there's four new boxes. And it's a really great problem 435 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: to have because I'm getting really cool stuff, but I 436 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: can't use it all and I don't have a functionality 437 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: functional space to keep it organized. You too, you get 438 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: a lot of boxes too, I do, but I'm also 439 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: I opened those boxes and then I put the things away, 440 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: and then I also donate to the there's a place 441 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: right down the street. Yeah, there's so many places I 442 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: could donate to. I mean, it's it's not that there's 443 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: a lack of places that donation. I'm not as much 444 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: as I'm like, I'm organized. What's interesting about me? And 445 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: I think there's something psychological there. Everything you see, Like 446 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: when you walk into my apartment, it's pristine, right, like 447 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: things are put away, all the things are folded, but 448 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: you open the drawers and it's like Monica Geller situations. 449 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm unorganized underneath it, but my like 450 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: my living space needs to be organized. I'm like, there's 451 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: definitely something psychological there. Oh that's interesting. It's all shoved 452 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: in the closet. I felt for the everyone to see 453 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: right like my you look, you walk into my place, 454 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, very clean and organized, and then 455 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: you open the drawers and you're like woo, And it's 456 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: funny they're tiny, because I always say, that's the space 457 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: you actually need to do first. Is the stuff that 458 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: people can't see because subconsciously, and I didn't go to 459 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: not a psychologist, and if I could, I'd love to 460 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: know like how and why our brains work that way, 461 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: because I'll tell someone they're like, don't worry about that 462 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: Monica closet, like it doesn't like it really doesn't matter, 463 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, we need to start there. And then 464 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: I watched their relationships change. I watched their like they're 465 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: daily confident like everything because subconsciously there was something there 466 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: that they might not have recognized. But I'm like, oh no, 467 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: we're going to start over there. And they're like I 468 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: just wanted you for my closet, you know, and of 469 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: course I won't push it, but it's like, just trust 470 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: me on this because there's there's something so beautiful and 471 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: having that order in space and nothing. I always nothing 472 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: is going to be perfect. I don't believe in it. 473 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: It's all about progress. So you know, Becca, for you, 474 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: it's like having those moments with yourself is understanding you're 475 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: not going to get it all done and one day 476 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: it's actually it's like impossible. So maybe having the courage 477 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: like how amazing to reach out to someone that could 478 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: could help you know, and understanding the boundaries there for 479 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: you of what you can and can't do or how 480 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: your brain works. So there's a lot of beauty in that. 481 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to um talk about how you're because you're 482 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: really I mean, you've like exploded on social media. You've 483 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: worked with so many influencers and celebrities. Like what was 484 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: the how did you start in that? Like for anyone? 485 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Because I know there's so many people out there who 486 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: are like I would love for my job to help 487 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: be help people organizing and starting a business like that, 488 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: But how do you start? How do you make that 489 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: into business? Yeah? I think going back to what you 490 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: really want, And for me it's I know that I'm 491 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: fortunate to know that this is my calling in life. 492 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: And my dad passed away in two thousand and nine 493 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: and I remember conversations with him, and he is really 494 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: why life and general started. Was understanding like the connection 495 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: part with life, and for me it was like taking 496 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: the leap having these hard conversations with what do you 497 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: really want? Kind of just we talked about earlier, taking 498 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: that leap of what does this look like? Because you 499 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: know tomorrow is not guaranteed, and so having for me 500 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: it was I knew I was meant to be doing 501 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: this work. And I just love people to their core, 502 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: sometimes to have fault because I like people please and 503 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: I love just everything that that embodies of helping um. 504 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: But I knew I wanted to be of service, and 505 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: I had this gift of I can see space that 506 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: I I just I love it, and me waking up 507 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: in the morning and knowing that I was meant to 508 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: be doing this was something like it didn't matter if 509 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: it failed quote unquote because I was doing what I 510 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: was called to be doing and seeing now how I'm 511 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: stepping into this seven years later, I just wrote a 512 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: book last year during the pandemic of understanding this more 513 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: from a soulful approach and kind of going back to 514 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: the basics of UM, creating that space for what matters most, 515 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: and having those those moments in my life. It's like, 516 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: I built this business. I started another business, UM L 517 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: I J Spaces, which does all the custom cabinetry. But 518 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: for me, it was how can I help as many 519 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: people as possible with the gifts that I have? And 520 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: I knew that this was something I wanted to I 521 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: didn't know organizing was a thing at all UM, But 522 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: when I started seeing my old client and seeing friends 523 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: and family having these like transformational moments in their life, 524 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: that was something that I brought to them. I do 525 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: not take that lightly, and I've had multiple you know, 526 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: it looks beautiful on Instagram, but that's the behind the 527 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: scenes that I'm like, it's not perfect, and it's really 528 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: hard to run a business, and it's really hard to 529 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: run an organizing business during you know, a pandemic UM. 530 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: But having those these moments of making sure it feels 531 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: good and until it doesn't, I'm going to keep going 532 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: that way and make a lot of mistakes, but going 533 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: back to the WIF. Um, I know that I was 534 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: meant to be helping people. I didn't know what capacity 535 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: or how, like, how do you even start? I'm serious 536 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I wouldn't even know where to start. Yeah, 537 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't go to business school. I didn't do 538 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: any of that. It was just leaning into what felt good. 539 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: And for me, it was my friends calling me being 540 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: like can you come back tomorrow and the next day 541 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: and the next day and telling me you've changed my 542 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: life and that is something like I could get like 543 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: it it matters. People matter, and having the tools to 544 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: help someone get closer to what they love and what 545 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: they believe in is it's you know, it's priceless. So, UM, 546 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know where to start when 547 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I started small and I'm like googling things as I go. 548 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: And my brother's a lawyer, thank god. But um, I'm 549 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: always like speed out. Something new is happening. But um, 550 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: not easy and life is not meant to be easy, 551 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: but just continuing on the path of what feels right, 552 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: and UM, you know, for now, this is something that 553 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I believe into my core and why it matters and 554 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: being organized, UM can change your life. I love that 555 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: because I think that is so applicable to every every 556 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: single person who is wanting to like step out and 557 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: do something new or start something that feels scary and vulnerable. 558 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's such It's so simple, like to 559 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: listen to what feels right, but it's hard, like you know, 560 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to take that step in that leap. So 561 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that's really great advice of like, as long 562 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: as it feels right, like keep going in that direction. 563 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: And and like seven years, like it's always evolving and 564 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: always changing, and I don't have all the information and 565 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: knowledge in the world, but the constant learning for me, 566 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: and I've made millions of mistakes like to where I'm like, gosh, 567 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: if I could really go back, but it's like I 568 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: don't want to live my life like that. I want 569 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: to keep waking for to how can I learn from these, mister, 570 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, the lessons to be better. I just want 571 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: to be better than I was yesterday, for myself, not 572 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, against other people. It's like everyone has their 573 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: own path, and so I think for me it's been 574 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: especially the last couple of years, leaning into my faith 575 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: has been my saving grace. Leaning into it's not always 576 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: going to be the way you thought it would, and 577 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: most of the time it's nothing like you would expect, 578 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: you know. Most of the time, I'm like, I run 579 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: a company, I wrote a book, Like I don't know 580 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: how to you know what happened, you know. But it's 581 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: like at the end of it, is am I changing 582 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: people's lives and my helping people? And do I feel good? 583 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: And am I in my in my zone? I feel 584 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have a very emotional reaction when you 585 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: come to my minds and help me, Like it's seriously, 586 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: it's it's so I'm literally talking about it with therapy 587 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: of like I can't figure out how to get deep 588 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: cluttered because I get to overwhelmed. So I'm like trying 589 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: to navigate that in my own life. No, I imagine, 590 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how that feels, because like seeing 591 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: it would throw like I can't even see mine and 592 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: it still bogs me down daily, Like I'm not kidding, 593 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: it's a visual. I see it. It's a reminder every day. 594 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: But I think like having someone come in who who 595 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, amplifies the purpose of it 596 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: is going to be really helpful and to like see 597 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: it coming into fruition and having a system. I can 598 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: do well when I have a system. Um So I'm 599 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: just like really looking forward to talking to you and 600 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: showing you my space and being vulnerable and letting it 601 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: all out for you. And I love that. And a 602 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: lot of people don't even know they need it and 603 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: totally have you know, like a lot of people like, oh, 604 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, but then I'm like, let me 605 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: just do this over here, and They're like, I didn't 606 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: even know I needed that. So it's good to recognize 607 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: it because I really do believe it's going to change 608 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: the way, like change so many things for you. I mean, 609 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: it does for me every day. That's why I do 610 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: what I do. It's why I make it a priority 611 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: in my life because it's I do it every day 612 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: right and for my my own sanity. It's it's something 613 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: I had to make a priority. It wasn't always like this, 614 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: but I could feel how it was different on the 615 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: weeks that I didn't prioritize that Sunday reset or the 616 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: Monday pending on the schedule, because it's so important to 617 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: your self care well being. I mean, it goes everywhere 618 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: in your life. So I'm really excited. I'm for you. 619 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: I love that too. I feel like it's gonna be 620 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: a reset and it's just gonna get me going for 621 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: all the other parts of my life too. Yeah. And 622 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: also I'm like, when I look at my Monica Geller closet, 623 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I need to see this. Where is down in my kitchen? 624 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Everything you don't see it. I go and I get 625 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: my paper towels in there, and it's like my paper 626 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: towels are sitting on my running shoes and my flip flops, 627 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: and there's like vacuums and mobs and I'm like having 628 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: to push some bags to the side. It's like so bad. 629 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: And I have boxes on the bottom there, bins that 630 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: I think are organized because they're like in these bins, 631 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: I haven't opened those bins in two years. So clearly 632 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't need any of that stuff put shelving because 633 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: I've seen that closet. Did you put shelving in it? Oh? 634 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: I haven't done anything to it. Oh yeah, because we 635 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: met right before Oh yeah yeah, yeah, So we were 636 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: going to do my Monica Galler closet right when the 637 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: pandemic hit. I remember this and we and like this 638 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: was literally when everything was shutting down, and in my mind, 639 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, sure, you five people come on over. 640 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: And then I'm seeing the news come out and everyone's 641 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: like no, no, isolate, and I was like, this doesn't 642 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: feel like something we should do. I don't know. I 643 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: just want to add shelving in there, that's all. And 644 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: then yeah, you're gonna feel so different about that Monica closet. Yeah, 645 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: that Monica. I mean honest, I'm telling you daily, it 646 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: bogs me down. I'm gonna need like multiple of those 647 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: shelving things you have behind you, just the different parts 648 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: in my house. So I'm really excited about it. But 649 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for people to you feel encouraged by 650 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: this conversation. And even because I, like I said, Tanya, 651 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: Tanya has actually come over to my house and just 652 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: helped me clean before, Like I'm talking hanging the clothes up, 653 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: like open boxes, take things out, throw away the trash. 654 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: Like Beck is on a whole another level, Like I 655 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: can help her to a point and then I don't 656 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: have like trash line everywhere. I'm not like disgusting. Yeah 657 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: you used to know, don't Yes, you have the box. 658 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: The stuff that comes in the boxes you just have 659 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, yah, but like I'm not like, there's not 660 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: like McDonald's lame McDonald But it's not like the trash. 661 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Trash is trash. It's not exclusive to like drive their 662 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: recyclable trash and you want to recycle it the right 663 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: way because you don't want to going into the ocean 664 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. I also heard this trick and Jen, you 665 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: can tell me what this is actually legit because I 666 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: haven't done it yet. But I want to um with 667 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: your clothes. If you hang all your clothes like the 668 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: opposite way, and then when you wear them, you hang 669 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: them back the regular way, and everything you haven't touched 670 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: in a year, you don't night. Yeah, I'm a big 671 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: believer in that. Yeah, I'm like, it's hard here because 672 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: in California it's like it's always seventy and sunny, So 673 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: it's different when you're in you know, New York where 674 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: there's actual seasons, or even northern California where I'm from, 675 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: where it gets colder. So having those you might not 676 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: wear it in one full year. But I believe in that. 677 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: I think things are meant to be used. It's like 678 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: when people get really nice China for their wedding. I'm like, 679 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: we should be using that nightly, you know, weekly, whatever 680 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: that looks like, instead of saving it for something special, 681 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: because we should be celebrating every single day that we're alive. 682 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: And I sounds cheesy, but it's like it's so true, 683 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: and I believe in that. So things like once they 684 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: have a place, like I'm so excited for, you have 685 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: no idea, but once once those that system is there, 686 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: it's just the maintaining and then even when things come in, 687 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: you'll be able to like access things differently and really 688 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: understand that process. But for for people, it's I think 689 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times, which I'm leaning into this year 690 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: a lot is you know, we do do a lot 691 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: of bigger homes um and I'm really trying to listen 692 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: to smaller space and not having to buy anything to 693 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: product wise, and I ask a lot of questions on 694 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: social of saying like what do you need? I mean 695 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: every day I'm like what do you need? I have 696 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: people DM me all day every day and I'm sending 697 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: them like do this, move that shelf, do this, and 698 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, there's a whole another business that 699 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, as you know, but it's it's something that 700 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, our brains weren't meant to wire this way 701 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: for certain people. And I don't know. I just I 702 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: believe in this work so much. And I believe that 703 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: just people, whether it's they take a year of their 704 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: life and do one small thing a day or a 705 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: week whatever they can given that season of life or 706 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, their schedule, it just will progressively change in 707 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: that way. I love that. I feel like people like 708 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: who whose brains are wired like me are the reason 709 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: that y'all are able to have such gifts to bestow 710 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: upon us, to share with us. I feel like my 711 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: boyfriend has the brain like Becca too, because I like, 712 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: I go to his house and I'm just like, oh, 713 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: we gotta do things in here. But then I'm like, 714 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: listen without the beccasins want to have no their purpose. Okay, 715 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: we have helped you find your purpose. How many employees 716 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: do you have, Like, do you have to like like 717 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: manage all these people? Um, yes and no. So pre 718 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: pandemic we had about thirty and then we have about 719 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: half of that now between the two companies. So I 720 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: have an amazing director. Um Nicole I have a great team. 721 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: We just hired HR. So I'm like, I just because again, 722 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: this wasn't I just want to create now that's the thing. Like, 723 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that? I have to add that 724 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: to our contract. Something else happens the next day. You know, 725 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: my brother, I said, is on speed dial, and thank 726 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: God for him. But there's so much to know, especially 727 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: with running and managing people in California is a tricky 728 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: state to have a business with employees, so you know, 729 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: you just want to make sure that they're happy. I 730 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: always say, I want everyone to want to go to 731 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: work on a Monday. And if you're driving to work 732 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: and you feel like anything other than excitement, you need 733 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: to pull over and call me because I'm doing something 734 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: wrong as a leader. And so I'm just trying to 735 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: lean into that this year of the leadership side and 736 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: the soulful, the you know, the things that kind of 737 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: back to the basics of why I started the company 738 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: in the first place. That's amazing. I love. I mean, 739 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: not many people have that awareness or leadership to like 740 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: it always comes from the top, you know, yeah, but 741 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't don't handle it with such 742 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: a grace In gentleness. So um, you're amazing. I am 743 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: so excited to have you, um come to my house 744 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: and help me out, and thank you for taking the time. Honestly, 745 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: this has inspired me. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. 746 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do my closet, but i'nna do my 747 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: junk drawer today, and I'm thinking that's gonna kick start 748 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: me in the right direction. Yeah. Start much for having me. 749 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: Where can everybody find you and look you up and 750 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: see what you're doing everywhere? At life in general on 751 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: all handles and it's general with a J sometimes at 752 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: auto correct, So a website, Instagram that's kind of like 753 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: the day to day behind the scenes. Okay, amazing, Thank 754 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: you so much, Jen, it was so great. We love Jen. 755 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: We love a female entrepreneur, we love a girl's girl, 756 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: and Jen is all those things all the above. Bye. 757 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: She really organizing her what does she do organizing her house? 758 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: Or just I want her to come in and like 759 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: I need everything. I'm serious, I'm like before because I 760 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: want to start. So I really want to finished doing 761 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: like all my interior decorating, like decorating on my rooms. 762 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: But I can't do that with it cluttered. I'm telling you, 763 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: clutter is the thief of joy. No comparison is no 764 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: Clutter is the thief of joy. Let me tell you well, 765 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: I will say that the before and after is going 766 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: to be shocking because you know, though, I talked to 767 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: a lot of other people who are like in the 768 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: influencer space, and every single person I talked to, They're like, 769 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: I have a room that I just put the boxes 770 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: and keep the door shut because I don't know what 771 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: to do with everything. And I'm like, I feel so 772 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: seen and like heard because in my mind, I'm like, 773 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm the only person who's the un organized because on 774 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok and all social media, we don't see 775 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: the like clutter behind people. Because when I'm doing it, 776 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: if I have a messy room and I got to 777 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: film something in my room, it shoves all the way 778 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: over to the corner and you can't see it in 779 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: the mirror. It looks like I have my life together, 780 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: my beds and aid but over if you pan over 781 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: a little to the side, I really do. I think 782 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: there's She's so right when she says having an organized 783 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: home creates more productivity and happiness. I really believe that, 784 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: and I think that my clutter is why I'm a 785 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a frazzle case right now, azzle case. Well, 786 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: I will say the parts that you can see in 787 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: your home are always pristine, and I always walk in 788 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: going Tanya's got it together. Yeah, I need to be 789 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: more like Tanya. Yeah, just open any of these closets, Like, 790 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: if you open this one, it'll just be chaos. I 791 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: cannot wait to go through and look through all your 792 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: closed doors. And they not know this do we? Are 793 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: we doing an email to in the episode or episode? 794 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: I hope that you all enjoy your weekend and organize 795 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: help you do some spring cleaning. I hope this UM 796 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: inspired you. Happy Mother's Day to the mothers of all 797 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: kinds of mothers, the father mother, I am a mother, 798 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: the dog mom. That's right. Yeah, I'm happy Mother's Day. 799 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: And I'm expecting a card from Sunny. 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