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Speaker 1: He's arguably the greatest professional wrestler of all time. He's

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Speaker 1: been wrestling for over fifty years. The most decorated celebrated

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Speaker 1: but that y'all borrow a Red Claire. It's good man.

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Speaker 1: How you doing great man? We got a toast. This

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Speaker 1: is my Kanyac. I don't know if you drank Kanya,

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Speaker 2: I don't, but I'll have something with you.

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Speaker 1: And we were telling y'all camera man, my grandfathers to

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Speaker 1: knew who Rick Flair was, and that's when we fell

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Speaker 1: in love with wrestling. Thank you, so it is an

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Speaker 1: honor and indeed honoring a huge pleasure of mine to

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Speaker 1: have you in this will step.

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Speaker 2: Him, Thanks you for coming in. Thank you huge family.

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Speaker 1: I said, how have you been?

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Speaker 2: I think great.

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Speaker 1: You was telling me earlier you had some medical issue

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Speaker 1: the last several years.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen was a pretty rough y tell us what happened?

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Speaker 5: Well, it actually goes backward twenty fifteen. I was I

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Speaker 2: Oh man.

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Speaker 5: So you know the deal was a hospital, right, if

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Speaker 5: So I like the old patients stuff, right, So at

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Speaker 5: That's one of the most I've learned through just experience.

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Speaker 5: That's one of the most horrifying things you're gonna do.

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Speaker 5: So it's one in a million, literally one in a million,

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Speaker 5: And I had no memory when I finally woke up,

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Speaker 5: I had no memory. My memory went forward, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, strange right, And I'm.

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Speaker 5: Healthy as a whore. Yeah that's right. I mean, it's amazing.

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Speaker 5: I call a guide to gifts and now that I

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Speaker 5: never missed her workout either. You know, we wrestled twice

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Speaker 5: I don't do any drugs, no pain killers. I haven't

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Speaker 1: No knee surgery, no himp, no knees, no hip, A

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Speaker 2: I don't even have any pain at all. I'm reading Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and a crack seat five in on my neck

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Speaker 5: and that's the background for the technology was such a

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Speaker 2: Did What were some of your favorite spots in bookhead?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I can't remember it. They probably not even

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think that you're what fifty fine Google

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Speaker 1: Because because back then you and I was talking, our

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Speaker 2: Florida was the rough front asleep.

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Speaker 1: Because see I remember you in like the Dusty Rolls

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Speaker 5: Savannah's great. And of course I had that great Saint

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Speaker 5: Patrick's stage. Yes, yeah, yeah, it's a big thing, right, yeah,

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Speaker 5: But Yellow wrestled there and it was a great venue

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Speaker 1: How how did you become so popular with the rappers,

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Speaker 1: Because you look at if said Rick Flair, drip Killer,

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I'm literally was. I'll probably say Snoop

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when I'm I'm looking at you in your style,

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Speaker 1: you came in with the roves with the feathers and

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Speaker 2: You had that. Did you know that, like this is

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Speaker 2: And I'm like I grew up.

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Speaker 5: All I could think about was Joe Namas three hundred Girls,

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Speaker 1: I think Buddy Rogers was the first make absolutely and

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Speaker 2: How so how did that go to? Did you ask

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Speaker 5: But I did meet Buddy so belly. He really was.

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Speaker 1: Here, and just met him.

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Speaker 2: And his diamonds are forever right. Yeah, yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: The way that you lived in the seventies. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh.

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Speaker 5: But you couldn't tell Rick Clair that because you live Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they did, they did. Yeah, So what made you decide

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Speaker 1: to take on that persona? How did you perfect that persona?

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Speaker 1: So when did you realize that wrestling? Because I read

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Speaker 5: Never, I bo because I went to Minnesota on a

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Speaker 1: Because you're from Minnesota. Yes, born and raised, raised on

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Speaker 5: I won't sweep before So what if it's if it's

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Speaker 2: If somebody else can do what, you're gonna let them

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so. So this wrestling thing, I mean, you

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Speaker 5: Because I had no idea. I don't think anybody did.

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Speaker 5: But it's so awesome that it has and it's it's now.

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Speaker 5: And as far as entertainment like the NBA All Star

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Speaker 5: the production values of shows like that, all the stuff,

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Speaker 1: But how did how long did it take you to

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Speaker 1: to be able to be what you became. You know what?

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Speaker 1: I got that?

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Speaker 2: Actually I got that driving where we were.

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Speaker 5: We staid driving three three thousand miles a week, right

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Speaker 5: and listen, listening to songs at night, draking beer, driving

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Speaker 5: I was a huge fan of Chuck Berry and just

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's I just I caught a gift.

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Speaker 5: Very few people get it right, but I you know,

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Speaker 1: This day, I still do. I feel great? Did the promoter?

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Speaker 2: Did be four? I feel seventy four?

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Speaker 1: And you had your last wrestling Mac what two?

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Speaker 2: A year ago? Last year? John? You done? Done? You done?

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Speaker 2: I'm done physically, but mentally you feel you can still

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Speaker 1: But the body just won't let you do it anymore.

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Speaker 5: But the body will, but they won't. Number one didn't

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Speaker 5: want to see the body. I'm gonna work sure, Okay,

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Speaker 5: the cosmetic issues were completed. They were rough beginning with,

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Speaker 1: Right now, A part of your gift was trash talking.

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Speaker 1: You once told someone, my shoes are worth more than

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Speaker 1: than guys spent them five years. I spent more money

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Speaker 1: than you've ever.

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Speaker 2: Made, no than you made last year.

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Speaker 1: How did you come up with that? I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: just sitting around like, Okay, what can I say?

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Speaker 2: That's what they got. It just rolled out. It just

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Speaker 5: I've just been around so long, around so many cool people.

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Speaker 5: You know, you hang around cool people, you learn things

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Speaker 5: and just a little bit from everybody. Even today, I'll

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Speaker 5: is really cool. And I mean and it's pretty hard

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Speaker 5: what what greater honor is there right than they have

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Speaker 5: a guy was legendary as him impersonate Shire like when

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Speaker 2: Well, he's struggling with Dallas this year, isn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that look like they're doing pretty good things. They look great.

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Speaker 1: So when you started this, didn't appropriate because it seems

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Speaker 1: to me like the really good wrestlers, like they really

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Speaker 2: You look at yourself, you look at the rock, you look.

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Speaker 1: At the John Cenas, you look at the guys that

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Speaker 1: the movie aspect was that something that was was was promoted?

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Speaker 1: Did they want you to be?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: No, I had a chance to do a movie with

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Speaker 5: a Ryan Victors. The guy approached me out here when

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Speaker 5: I was wrestling the form in the eighties and they

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Speaker 5: wanted me to do a James Bond character.

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Speaker 2: But the money I was going to make number one, I'd.

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Speaker 5: Have to take three months off and back then, you know,

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Speaker 5: we didn't have a guaranteed contract you with the work,

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Speaker 5: or you didn't get.

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Speaker 2: You didn't get paid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'd have to lose the world championship, you know,

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Speaker 5: go make two hundred thirty thousand dollars in the movie

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Speaker 5: or and I.

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Speaker 2: Hope that it did well. That makes sense. So I just.

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Speaker 5: I think I made the right choice because I just

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Speaker 5: stayed with wrestling, and I you know, I've never looked back.

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Speaker 1: So you don't look back at you see the money

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Speaker 1: that the Rock is making. You see what he became.

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Speaker 1: You look at John Cena. Although I like it, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I was made for that, right, I

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Speaker 5: mean those guys you know, look, you know the driss

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Speaker 2: But like the Rock gets up at four.

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Speaker 5: O'clock in the morning, Yes, every day, Yes, and John's

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Speaker 5: the same way. They don't miss it workout right, and

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Speaker 5: then it's all day long, take retake, take, Even when

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Speaker 5: I make commercials ount after an hour, only sometimes I

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Speaker 5: always now they have these two or three dregs. Right,

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Speaker 5: I'll go, guys wanted to make the decision because I'm

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Speaker 5: only at five o'clock. I'm leaving. I'm going to get

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Speaker 5: but they they're successful. And jeez, Duane is just a placeble. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when when you started this and you and you

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Speaker 1: when the Rick Flair really really took off when people

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Speaker 1: they could hear you also TVs. Yeah, yeah, that took off.

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Speaker 1: So how do you like? Okay, I'm on, did you

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Speaker 1: know you were on the did you know you were

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Speaker 1: onto something?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah I felt that.

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Speaker 5: I just you know, and then I come inside you ever,

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Speaker 5: Actually I'm good friends with Pete Rose, right, So Pete.

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Speaker 2: Said Inns buying his shoe. It was over it Friedman's right.

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Speaker 5: So I went over there with him and I was

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Speaker 5: this meth one day and they spent they spent forty

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Speaker 5: I can remember. And uh, Pete and I spent like

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Speaker 5: three grand. But you know, let minister those alligators shoes.

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Speaker 2: So you got a pair, they got like ten pair

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Speaker 2: yeh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to surgrecut. Right.

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Speaker 1: So when when you talk about trash talkers, because you're

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Speaker 1: your Mount Rushmore trash talkers? Ali Mayweather, Dion Sanders, The Rock,

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Speaker 5: Well, I am such a fan of Dion Sanders, but

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Speaker 5: Dion's calmed it down. Yeah yeah, I in Vintages Dion, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean playing Dion in Atlanta. Yeah yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: Trash talkers. I'm trying to think of myself. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's hard to talk crash because some you know, number

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Speaker 5: one people have got to be thick skinned, yes, because

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Speaker 5: it's it's not real, right.

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Speaker 2: But you're trying to make big people made.

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Speaker 5: You try to make people mad. You're trying to sell them.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to sell things. So and back then I

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Speaker 2: So they had no idea that you were going to

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Speaker 5: Never no, and with with me and Dusty, it was

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Speaker 5: a deal one day. I said, okay, you go, so

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Speaker 5: we're not gonna argue about this because he could he

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Speaker 5: could really talk. Yeah yeah, the American dream brother. He

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Speaker 5: may be the most gift that Roddy Piper would Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 5: so Roddy Piper. Ali Dusty Rhodes, dion I mean those

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Speaker 2: A couple of them.

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Speaker 5: Roddie, my aid would be it would have been my

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Speaker 2: But I mean, those guys were great. And Dionna, my god.

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Speaker 5: I remember he was on that show when he talked

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Speaker 2: Remember that, Oh yea you're talking about He was on

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Speaker 2: a uh it's the NFL network. Yeah no, and he

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he said, don't tell me that LT didn't

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Speaker 5: send you one too. You've heard those stories, right, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: I remember, and I know LT really well.

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Speaker 2: Sure you do. Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised by how many famous people No, Rick

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Speaker 1: Flair rock with Ric Flair, because it seems like everybody

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Speaker 1: they get the same like like when I saw you,

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Speaker 1: because this is my first time meeting you, but I

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Speaker 1: grew up watching you and a lot of famous people,

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Speaker 1: the celebrities, athletes, entertained rappers get the same impression that

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Speaker 1: I got when I miss you.

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Speaker 2: It's just a regular guy. Where we're going to next?

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Speaker 1: But because it seems like, like you said, you've been

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Speaker 1: that's my age that watched you're the most recognizable. Now,

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00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: probably you and Andre are the most because Andre was

439
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: such a massive of a man. I saw him one

440
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: time of my life. And when you're unbelievab sleven years

441
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: old and you see somebody that's You're like, that's the

442
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: biggest man I've ever seen. But you're so recognizable you

443
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: can't think of professional wrestling without mentioning you.

444
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm mind to say that, are you. I've

445
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 5: just been lucky enough to to live on. I mean,

446
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 5: I think the fact that I didn't do a lot

447
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 5: of drugs. Obviously, I drank a lot of that documentary

448
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 5: over over again. But you know, drinking not illegal. I

449
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 5: keep telling people all the time. They tell me, like

450
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 5: a drink problems. Right, I'll say, at seventy four, let's

451
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 5: say I'm a regular guy. I'll retire, right, and I

452
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 5: go play golf all day and drink all day on

453
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 5: the golf course. Then I go to the club boss afterwards,

454
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 5: which is the way the way the day works, gamble,

455
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 5: play cards, drink some more go home. You're just a

456
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 5: regular guy. You go to the bar at five o'clock,

457
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 5: stay at nine o'clock, you're an alcoholic.

458
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: That that's the way.

459
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: That's the way.

460
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: Our culture per season. Right.

461
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned something, you said like, I've never done drugs

462
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: and you're seventy four years old.

463
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: I've done dan.

464
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of guys that were younger than you

465
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: have gone on what what why?

466
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 5: Because they the I think it it applies to all sports,

467
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 5: but to our sports, particularly because of the fact that

468
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 5: we never had a day off. They don't understand the

469
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 5: word moeration so hypothetically steroids. Right, Well, if I take

470
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 5: one CEC of test one CEC of Decca, right, and

471
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 5: I look like this, well I might, I should take two.

472
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: It's everything's about iteration.

473
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 5: It's like now I'm in the cannabis business, right, I

474
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 5: can I can take two or three hits, right, But

475
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 5: I can't smoke well with Mike Tyson.

476
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: I don't know a snoop. My god.

477
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 5: I mean it's unbelievable and I mean so and it's

478
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 5: like now when we were selling the Edibles, like the

479
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 5: Edibles Edibles got me off the Xenax. But you know,

480
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 5: if I have a bad day, I still jump on

481
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 5: a xanax. I said, you're going to tell you I don't.

482
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 5: But the edibles, I mean, there's so much the benefit

483
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 5: from that because how many people are eating xanax. I mean,

484
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 5: I admit it, how many people are taking it. It's

485
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 5: your damn hard to buy right now. You know that

486
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 5: people are trying to abuse it.

487
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Right, So what are some of your top If I said, okay, Rick,

488
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: give me your top three catchphrases that you've used in

489
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: your career. You know, I'm a woman, I'm every woman's dream,

490
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: every man's nightmare. Of diamonds are forever. So it's Rick

491
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: Flair styling profile and limousine riding jet fly. That's probably

492
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: your most famous one. That's probably your most famous one.

493
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: If you don't like it, you'll learn to love it.

494
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: All women want to be with me, All me want

495
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: to be like me.

496
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

497
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: If you said okay, they said okay, Rick, you get three,

498
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: you got a hundred. Give me your three favorite.

499
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: I am the diamondy wearing Rolex word limit, your riding private,

500
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: get fine, kid's stealing, wheeling, dealing?

501
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: Whoa soun of forgutten? Let's having a hard time. Hold

502
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 2: these gators down?

503
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: WHOA not your number one all time? That's it, that's it.

504
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: So how did you to be the man to beat

505
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: the man? How did you come up with that?

506
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: And I am I got off a song about trucking.

507
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 5: Some guy was saying in the trucking, and I just and.

508
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: You put road lakes where private jet, flying, limousine, ride, kiss, stealing, wheeling, daling.

509
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, well here's what happened. The private jet thing came

510
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: around like this. So I was United States Champion. I'm

511
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 5: wrestling black Jack Mulligan. Yes, I'm glad. I can you

512
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: understand what I drama? Yes, Charlotte was sold out, but

513
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 5: I'm in Greg Guy in his wedding ferry Guy, and

514
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 5: you broke me in. So I told George Guy, I said,

515
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: I gotta have this Saturday. They got him Saturday off,

516
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: he said. So I charted a private back then I

517
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 5: got a Lear nine to go to Minneapol to Minneapolis

518
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 5: from Charlotte and back for twenty seven hundred dollars.

519
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: And now that would be fifty grand.

520
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but twenty seven hundred dollars back then was a

521
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of money.

522
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty And they filmed me right, getting all the

523
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 5: plate going back, and I made it the coliseum at

524
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 5: seven point thirty and we were sold out, and so

525
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 5: I started the private that.

526
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: Thing and then it just just kind of it went

527
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: from there. But that that basically what that was.

528
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 5: I just said I couldn't disciplot my friend and not

529
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: being his wedding right.

530
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: But I had you back wrestle.

531
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 5: George Gott says, you don't make Charlotte just keep taking

532
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 5: playing in Memphis, which was like the end of the

533
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 5: world that was born.

534
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Did uh? Did people did it bother you when people

535
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: called you cocky? No, because they were gonna come to

536
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: see you regardless.

537
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

538
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: So when you wrestled, you mentioned like you and I

539
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: know black Jack Milligan and Sergeant Slaughter and all those guys, uh,

540
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Baron Broun RASKI, you know, like you meant the Anderson brothers.

541
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: So if you wrestle black Jack and Charlotte, you've traveled

542
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: on down suth Allley wrestling him again.

543
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, different different cars. Yeah, we had we had the

544
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: k Fave back then, and you know, there was no

545
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 5: talking with different locker room. There was you could you

546
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 5: could you could get you could get fired for riding

547
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: with you one of your opponents.

548
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: Really.

549
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, back then it was because they they want.

550
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: Because they wanted the appearance that you really didn't.

551
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: Like yet yeah, you know, of course. Yeah.

552
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 5: Now they it just accepted and it doesn't It hasn't

553
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: hurt the indust year. But back then the word KFA

554
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: was huge. So and the guys were It was a

555
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 5: really tough business back then too. I mean the guys

556
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 5: were tough guys. Right, there's over there, no no, we

557
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 5: wanted to lose, you know what I mean. And there

558
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: was no wordy there was a twenty five agents to

559
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 5: talk about it.

560
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: It was just two guys, you know. So how so

561
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: how did you come so? How did how do you

562
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: come up with a strategy like who's going to be

563
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 1: the hero, who's going to be the heel, who's going

564
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: to win, who's going to lose? How did you guys

565
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: come up with that? Well?

566
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: I think the personalities made the determination on who's going

567
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 5: to be the good guy the bad guy? And then

568
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: to be honest here for me, because I just wanted

569
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: to get along. I said, beat me, I'll just be

570
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: better than you mean to myself and I was. So

571
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: by the time you got through. By the time the

572
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: match is over, you could be right in the middle

573
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: ring everybody going, I gotta see that guy who's laying

574
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: on his back. That was I went to war with

575
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 5: every night. You know the tape right there, and when

576
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 5: all those fails.

577
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: Cut it, you're already for spiring. Yeah, bloods don't be everywhere.

578
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: You've got the blood hair.

579
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Savannah was pleading grounds. Yeah. Man, you don't

580
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: know how many thunder bulla boat dog too, boy?

581
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see now you're going away now that's all

582
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Georgia Championship wrest Man.

583
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Those were the good old.

584
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Days undern But you know now they got schools that

585
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: will teach you how to wrestle.

586
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: Did you guys have that when you were You just

587
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: learned it on the fly.

588
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: Well, I went to wrestling camp. They just beat us up.

589
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: Nobody even taught me from my first match. I never

590
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 5: did anytho get beat up for eight weeks by Verney.

591
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Guys.

592
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 5: You know guys that are amateur wrestlers are you know

593
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: the real good that are in the business right right?

594
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Because they wanted they wanted you to.

595
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 5: They wanted to break here, right and if they broke here,

596
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: then you didn't make it, right, So the objective of

597
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: them when I broke in the business was to break

598
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 5: you or see if you had it, and once you

599
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: had it, then they'll then they'll then they'll start helping you.

600
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: Right, So the different But now, so did they teach

601
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: you how to fall? I mean you do the drop kick?

602
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: And do you fall like there or when they soon

603
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: place you? And how to you know, you do the

604
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: body you come up the top rope?

605
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you all learner, You learn by yourself.

606
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: Right, But that's what but and people like, oh okay, scripted,

607
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: but you still have to learn how to fall. You're

608
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: still falling, absolutely, and you're falling from ten to twelve feet.

609
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: And some of the match are just like this, Yeah,

610
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: I mean now like ww is they But basically even

611
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 5: today it's four wife fours plywood and are and are

612
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: like a wrestling mat, right, you know that that's all

613
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: it is.

614
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: It's hard, but it has to make that sound. There's

615
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: a sound that the people that the audience needs to hear,

616
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: and it's and it's still to the same to the

617
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: day to this day, just like when you wrestle, it's

618
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: kind of the same.

619
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, whether ringing that much better around better.

620
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you I mean, like you said,

621
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: you're doing it every day and some days you're doing

622
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: it twice a day. Is that why you think some

623
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: of the guys maybe did the drugs in excess because

624
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: of the.

625
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: Pain, of course, of course.

626
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: And you know what I noticed a lot of a

627
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of ex football players started wrestling. Ernie Ladd turned

628
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: into wrestling. Big Yeah. See who McDaniel played with the Broncos.

629
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: Who is my mentor?

630
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Man? Yeah? So what is it? What is it about?

631
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: And we see you know a lot of what's the paul?

632
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: You know, you know, I know, I'm glad you know

633
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 5: all these guys. You know why who had to stay

634
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 5: high school Russian record and until Billy Simms broke it?

635
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: Wow?

636
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Waho the Wahoo ran a ten flat hundred.

637
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

638
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played for the Bronco and I didn't.

639
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 5: And the Jets the Briers story about Wahoo when they

640
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: drafted name of every time he made a tackle was

641
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: the Jets right? They take you played in the linebacker?

642
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 5: They said, guess who, and the whole crowd would go Wahoo.

643
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 5: And then they drafted Jet their minutes, they drafted Joe

644
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 5: true story. They traded Wow, does I think he ended

645
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 5: up with Miami?

646
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: How? I just wanted to ask you this because your

647
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: name either, although it's felled differently, it was I think

648
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: f L e u R I e h r I

649
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: e h h R. How do you how do they

650
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: determine the name? How do you do you get to

651
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: keep your real name? Or do they give you a name?

652
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: How did that happen? How do you get a name?

653
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Well?

654
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: I want I wanted to be I went to Vernon

655
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: eyt it broke Man. I said, I want to be

656
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: Rambling and Rickey Rhodes.

657
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: I wanted.

658
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 5: I wanted to be a Destiny's brother, right, okay, And

659
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 5: and very kind of looked at me and said, you're crazy.

660
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 5: I don't know what you could do. I don't think

661
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: what we just see it. That's the end, Dick. We're

662
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: just funny guys. They just enjoyed life. And uh, he said,

663
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: you're Rick Flair. That's a cool name.

664
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: I said, Rick Flair is cool. He said yeah.

665
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 5: And then you know, and I went by that name

666
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 5: and uh, when I went down to Charlotte, it just

667
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 5: sounded natural and it got on and then I was

668
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: at an autograph sign and it's funny. I mentioned that

669
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 5: maybe a year ago and Terry Bradshaw was there, so

670
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 5: I know Terry a little.

671
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: Bit, right. He said, Rick Flair, that's the greatest name

672
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: in the world.

673
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: I like Ric Flair. I said, I'm looking at myself

674
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: and I wanted to call myself I'm a Rocky Road.

675
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: It wouldn't. I don't know if you'd have been the same. No,

676
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: the nature bore the Rick Flair, the blonde hair.

677
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I had my haird curled and everything like Dusty.

678
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: You had curly like Dusty.

679
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

680
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Speaker 1: Because doctor, if I'm not mistaken, he lived in Marietta, right.

681
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: He said, yes, yep, Yeah.

682
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just I was I beat. I was crazy.

683
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm like I thought about being a wrestler.

684
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Was like, man, yeah, well you got that. Yeah, all

685
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: that falling football was tough enough and to do that

686
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: every day for years and years and you did it

687
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: for fifty Yeah.

688
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: Wait, let me tell you you wouldn't.

689
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: You'll be a surprised at a number of football players

690
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: that could come in and didn't make it.

691
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: Man, right, remember you remember the guy that mars.

692
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: Man from the played for Oakland from too lumbers Georgia,

693
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 5: No sac.

694
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: Black guy. Otis is strung, Otis is drunk.

695
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he came in the ring one day gone

696
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 5: and the other guy homes that played, uh Hotsburgh Homes.

697
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 5: But the Pittsford guy one day he was out there,

698
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 5: the guy that was shooting the rifle. Yeah, yeah, he

699
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 5: was only there one day too.

700
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: Not good.

701
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: He won.

702
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 5: He was tough, but he didn't like you know, it

703
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: wasn't you know, you know, we didn't like the wrestling.

704
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: Now that's yeah, I mean, but but.

705
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 5: There they put out you'll know the name because you

706
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: like wrestling. They put the orders in drunk. In the

707
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 5: cage match with mad Dog for Seine, mad Dog was

708
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: jumping around, he was clawned.

709
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: So how do you how do they determine the type

710
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: of match? Because you got the Texas Death Match, you

711
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: got the cage match, you got the bull rope, I

712
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: remember the bull. You know you're tied to each other,

713
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: and you know.

714
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 5: You got the steal cage match, you got the Indian

715
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: strap matcher while whipping with that damn.

716
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: So how do they determine the type of match?

717
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 5: They did promoters the promotion to this day, they tried

718
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: every on something different to capture the imagination of public.

719
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: So who who is your favorite wrestling opponent.

720
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: Of all time?

721
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 5: Steamboat Stebot or the drag Wars thing? Who one went

722
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 5: on here and out?

723
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Okay because Sting had the main event? He had a

724
00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: gym and and and uh at lampsing main event? Yeah thing, yep, yep. Partner,

725
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: who's your favorite partner? Because you've had some partner. You

726
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: had Greg Valentine, you the Four Horsemen, but I think

727
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: it was you Valentine Tully Blanchard.

728
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 5: Uh about my favorite partner? He didn't be Greg or

729
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 5: An Anderson. I wasn't allowed tag matches. We're another eight

730
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 5: man the War Games and all a little crazy Jesus,

731
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 5: but they sold out. But my examined come in last

732
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 5: who was a legitimate badass, right, and we'd be throwing

733
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: blood on Mike and everything. He'd get that tag man

734
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: when he came in because they're going home.

735
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: He would kill everybody. We just we didn't do it.

736
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: Because occasionally is high, right, right, there's a seeing that right,

737
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: you can't crawl off it, right, right. So he picked

738
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 5: up JJ Dylon Animal's Shoulders, which is a movie you

739
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 5: don't want to do period. But JJ is a manager, right,

740
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: and the hawk jumped off the top rope and fun

741
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 5: a j separated his shoulder almost.

742
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: So what happens when you have because obviously guys have

743
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: had separated shoulders and dislocated elbows and torn a c ms.

744
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: But you slotted to wrestle thirty minutes and that happens

745
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minutes.

746
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: Well, they used to say, make you know the time out.

747
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: Like I bet reference to me hazes, like Michael Hayes

748
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: the ps from the Free Words, right as an agent,

749
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 5: he told her a free because they have ear pieces, right,

750
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 5: tell them the telling them the tough it out these

751
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: rick flair.

752
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, my lips.

753
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 5: What happened is I hit the rolle, came back and

754
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 5: with me in the face, broke my nose cut you know, right,

755
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 5: tough it out.

756
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: But now it's stout the matches.

757
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: See, I remember that the heavy heavy screwiny, and that

758
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 5: they of the head shines, no more shares of ahead and.

759
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: No more to the You remember just slinging to the

760
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: rope and bitch in the head.

761
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: With uh still do that?

762
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

763
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: Kick that? Oh sure, yeah? You just hope you had

764
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: to hope guy knows what he's doing.

765
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: So when you when you look back and you look

766
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: at all the names that you've wrestled from Andre to

767
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: Giant to like you said, uh, Steamboat and Bobo Brazil

768
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: and Thunderbowl.

769
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: Yeah you remember, I do that. Iurn Michigan, Abdullah the Butcher. Yeah.

770
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: Aby he also late that.

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Speaker 1: The Beaty Jail because he used to have a barbecue spot.

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Speaker 5: In Tampa and Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

773
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Speaker 5: yeah yeah. I have used to travel the Caribbean with

774
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,920
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776
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: about BLOODBN, I talkd Forto Rigo. That's all they wanted.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned you was you was born in Memphis. How

799
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Speaker 1: how many years did you spend in Memphis? Because I

800
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Speaker 1: know you ended up being in Minnesota, but I only

801
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Speaker 1: spend a month.

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00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm adopting. Oh okay, that's interesting.

803
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: Is it true that you were stolen TiAl traffickers and

804
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: you ended up being adopted? So how old were you

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00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: when you you found out that this was your adopted

806
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Speaker 1: parents and not your biological parents.

807
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Let's take it to hold me when I was like five?

808
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Did you ever seek out your So you don't, so

809
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: you don't know if you have brothers, sisters.

810
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 5: No, I don't as recently funny that the guy. How

811
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 5: many years? What was that, Wendy? This is six years ago.

812
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: Somebody reached out my brother, my last my real name

813
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: was Fred Phillips, right, and my brother reached out to me.

814
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 5: I didn't have any interests. Really, probably want to borrow money.

815
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 5: You know, you.

816
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Didn't want to. You didn't want to leave him anybody.

817
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: I'll call Steve Austin. Steve, I don't have borrow any money.

818
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 2: To call me back. You mentioned your dad was a doctor.

819
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: Your mom was an actress.

820
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 5: Uh, she worked for the the She wrote a book

821
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 5: in Search of Audience, and she was a She was

822
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 5: not actress, but she worked at the agent shirt Tyrone

823
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: Guthrie Theater.

824
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: And she was like, what was just saying? I don't know.

825
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: They both were very smart.

826
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: My dad had too the doctor therees, one in theater

827
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 5: in English and one in medicine.

828
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: What type.

829
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: When you talk about your dad, you you light up.

830
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: He was a big influence on you, wasn't. Yeah.

831
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 5: He made me learn how to do everything. Five o'clock

832
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 5: I would be five years old downstairs shoving me out.

833
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: It was back then. He was obj I went right.

834
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 5: There were when there was just a woman wanted her doctor.

835
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 5: They weren't being passed around the way it is now.

836
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: Right who's on colleges or right? I mean, I can't

837
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 5: tell you shovel me out right. And he wanted to

838
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 5: make sure I knew how to work every tool.

839
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: But he was that. We spent a lot of time together.

840
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: I read where you had a list you had an

841
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: impediment as a kid, I had one. Did kids make

842
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: fun of you back then?

843
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't remember.

844
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: I don't think it was in fun of me by

845
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: my parents sent me to a speech therapist and all that,

846
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: I mean's funny, like they did all this stuff in

847
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: and I was just I was just so I would

848
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: just like to have fun. And they spent a fortune,

849
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 5: probably on races and then I never won more retainer and

850
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 5: right there, and I do put the retainer on, but

851
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 5: it didn't Does that make sense?

852
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: I just I just like to be out having fun.

853
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: Did you understand that your upbringing was kind of different

854
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: than your your friends in the neighborhood because you had

855
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: a doctor as a dad. Did you understand that or

856
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: you just looked at it. That's my dad and I'm

857
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: a kid, and I just want like you said, you

858
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: just wanted to have fun. Yeah, just fun.

859
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't think anybody people Actually, I hadn't

860
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 5: didn't judge anybody could be a doctor. A guy, another

861
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: guy across street runs worked for hire as Rupberg.

862
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: If you remember them years ago. I mean another guy

863
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: was an architect.

864
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: I mean the neighborhoods, neighborhoods or family back, I mean

865
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 5: a whole different deal. Now everybody's so judgmental and everything

866
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: read where you went to boarding school? Thirteen years?

867
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: So why why did you? Why did your parents send

868
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: you to a boarding school?

869
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 5: Because I got in trouble riding a motorcycle around. Uh well,

870
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 5: first of all, I was trying. I got busted driving

871
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: to buy alcohol.

872
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Now were you?

873
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 5: I was at fifteen, but I had I had a

874
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 5: letter jacket on. They like I like, I was in college, right,

875
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 5: And so they rested me.

876
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: My dad.

877
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I was on Father's Day.

878
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: They had to come get me.

879
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: And then.

880
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: At a time I wrote my parents had.

881
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: Bought me a hond to fifty and I was riding

882
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: there innocently around Lake CALHOUNA and Minneapolis, and they got

883
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 5: arrested and so the guy said to my mom and dad,

884
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: it's military school, reform school. And so they put me

885
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 5: away in the academy. And back then ten thousand years

886
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: a lot of money. Yeah, for sure, back in sixty

887
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 5: if I started in sixty four.

888
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: But when you when you when you think about it,

889
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: they really loved you, Rick because they could have.

890
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep.

891
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I know, do you do you look back at that

892
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: time and and like, wow, this could have went this way,

893
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: could have went that way, but because of them, it

894
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: went that way.

895
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: Well, you're asked, I'm going to get emotional. I even though.

896
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 5: Even though I didn't do anything that is illegal or

897
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 5: anything bad, I just feel like I was I didn't

898
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 5: do them justice. That makes sense because they were such

899
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 5: a good people. I was just just wild, not bad wild,

900
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 5: just just and I mean they drank and all that.

901
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: It was like that.

902
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: But I just you never know, I know, like when

903
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 5: my dad died, it took me a week, not a week,

904
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 5: five days literally to go tell my mom my dad died.

905
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 5: The health care keeper kept calling me, your mom wants

906
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: all your dad. I said that he's finding fire. The

907
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: minute I walked in that room and told her that

908
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 5: my dad had passed. She looked out the window and

909
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 5: she never stopped looking on the window for two years.

910
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 5: And then she died two years later, and she never

911
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 5: spoke of.

912
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: Wow.

913
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 5: So I don't know what she thought interesting that you're

914
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: asking that. And I'm sure that was a lot of people. Man,

915
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 5: I couldn't fifty nine and a half years they were

916
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: like this.

917
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Then to tell her, even though she lived two years longer,

918
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: she really died when.

919
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: You told her he had, she just looked out the window.

920
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: Is that why you took you five days? Because you

921
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: knew the impact that was gonna have on her? Oh?

922
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that's one of my parents.

923
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 5: But they bought a place in a real prestigious retirement

924
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 5: community in Charlotte. They moved to Charlotte by then, and uh,

925
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: when my mom had to go into a sist living, my.

926
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: Dad was still in the apartment.

927
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 5: So my mom's they would call me and say, your

928
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 5: mom wants you to go to find about where your

929
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 5: dad is. Well, my dad was up at the bar.

930
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 5: She couldn't walk to get there. Boy, she didn't like

931
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 5: it at the bar drinking at seventy eight years old.

932
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: I think about that. Those are the funny stories. Yeah,

933
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: they were very close my dad.

934
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: My mom and dad would would read a three hundred

935
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: page book a day of piece Wow. My dad would

936
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 5: just read drinking red wine at lunch and then a

937
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: five Manhattans.

938
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: And I remember I.

939
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 5: Bought my dad a bottle of jack one time, and

940
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: I said, why would you spend the money on this?

941
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: Or when I bought that, I bought a two million

942
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: dollars in Charlotte.

943
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 5: But my mom and my dad was so proud to

944
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 5: show him right, right, And my dad walked into the

945
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: foy and had marble floors and everything.

946
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: He said, what Dad is that?

947
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: I was saying, it's nice graduations, But.

948
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's crazy. They were just they

949
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: were so conservative.

950
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Right, What did you think your father wanted you to become?

951
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: Did you think he wanted Do you think he wanted

952
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: you to be a doctor or travel along that path?

953
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: No, let me tell you this is another true story.

954
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 5: So when I told my dad I wanted to be

955
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 5: a wrestler, and I was moving to to Charlotte, and

956
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 5: I was married at that time, my first wife, mother

957
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 5: of my two old youngest oldest kids. And uh, I said,

958
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 5: I got borrowed four hu dollars. He said, no, I'm

959
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 5: not going to invest any money in something that's three.

960
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 5: I went to Verne, guy into the promoter, got borrow four.

961
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 5: And now I said, no, this is when there's hard

962
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 5: we grow up learn how to do it. So I left.

963
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: With no money in your pocket? How much did you buy?

964
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: By about fifteen hundred? And I had like thirty five

965
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 5: hundred and four thousand that I left with with Leslie

966
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 5: and my my oldest star. And then I got down

967
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: there and Crockett liked me right away, and he pulled

968
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 5: me aside and said I I was just working out

969
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 5: for it. I said, I love it, And he said, well, here,

970
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 5: you want some money in the movie your family down

971
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 5: He gave me ten thousand dollars. Wow, I went, what

972
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 5: the hell are you kidding me?

973
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: With the Jim Crockett, Jim crocketbermos.

974
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: The best it was. Yeah, but you.

975
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: Did get I mean out of high school year you

976
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: were three, if I'm not mistaken, a three sports star. Yeah,

977
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: you wrestled, played football.

978
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 5: Wrestling, treeers, played all state and football and shot put

979
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 5: out of an average.

980
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to scholarship, played football University of Minnesota.

981
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 5: No, I got where's that happened? I signed a letter

982
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 5: of intent. That's why I'm so loyal to Harbor. Okay, Okay,

983
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 5: so you're your old enough to remember Bump Billion Bump

984
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 5: was the coach, Pete was a d Okay, So I

985
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: signed a letter of intent. And then my academic advisor

986
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 5: would not write a letter saying that I could I

987
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 5: could predict, so I couldn't go to Michigan. So I

988
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 5: will recruited me, and I went and spent the weekend

989
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 5: that he polled lag so then and I felt love

990
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: that social war. But in the summer I went home

991
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: and I met a guy at the gym and said,

992
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 5: why don't you look at Minnesota? So I met Mike McGee. Okay,

993
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 5: remember Mike, right, it was really uh he memory he

994
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 5: played played at Duke, but he was eighty in South Carolina,

995
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 5: eighty at Southern Caline. I don't know if he's still

996
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 5: living or out, but he said, And I went and

997
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 5: met him and went. Murray Warmerth was the coach, and right,

998
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: so I walked on, but then said, once I got

999
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: getting that gott in that fraternity man.

1000
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: The booze the girl football wasn't nearly is important.

1001
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Boods was great, but the girls are better.

1002
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: Right next door to the Traidet's house.

1003
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: Right, So your first you wanted to go to the

1004
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: University of Michigan.

1005
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: Yes, that's why, and so loyal to dad, to Jim, right,

1006
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 5: Jim and I have been friends since eighty nine, right,

1007
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 5: and John, we're great friends.

1008
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: Right.

1009
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: So what's when you said, Okay, I'm gonna be a wrestler,

1010
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: you go all in. You move to Charlotte and basically

1011
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: you go all in. So what was the training? So

1012
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: you know, Jim Crockett ended up giving you ten thousand

1013
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: to move your family down. But at that point in time,

1014
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: there's that point of no return. You have crossed the rubicon.

1015
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: There is no turning back now. No, this is this

1016
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: is it. This is what you've decided to be.

1017
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 5: I think I'm the only wrestler that I can think of.

1018
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 5: It's never removed. Then wanted me to move to Atlanta.

1019
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 5: They wanted me to move to New York. They wanted

1020
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 5: me to move to Florida. I just never did. Now

1021
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: that I live from Florida, I wish I thought I

1022
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: loved I loved them, right.

1023
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: So basically you just commuted.

1024
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 5: Wow, when they's got two places at Rosemary Beach with Pananal. Yeah,

1025
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 5: she comes to visit me stage for a week. She said,

1026
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 5: I'm only coming to the fraternity house for a week.

1027
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 5: Now I'm out of here, right, She's going back to

1028
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 5: the Quiet Beach.

1029
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: Right, So what's say? What's how do you train for wrestling?

1030
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, do you like, you know, you bench press, squad,

1031
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: you do cardio? What's a wrestling? I mean, obviously you

1032
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: have to wrestle to get you know, to understand the moves.

1033
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: How do I train? Yeah?

1034
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: How do you train?

1035
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 5: When I was training, why, I did five hundred free

1036
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 5: squads every day, okay, and then when I was heavier,

1037
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 5: I told he was sixteen forty, So I did a

1038
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 5: forty five bench five thirty squad and uh, six hundred

1039
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 5: dead live Okay, I could, I couldn't stand on the squad,

1040
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 5: but I wighed three hundred and ten bounds. So even

1041
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 5: after I broke my back, that's so I went down

1042
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 5: to one eighty right and the plane crash.

1043
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: I never got my bench.

1044
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 5: Back over maybe three and a quarter right, But you know,

1045
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 5: at that point it's just standing. Great shave the key

1046
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 5: for my success that I was in better shape than

1047
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 5: a lot of guys. It's hard to go an hour

1048
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 5: two hours on one day. When with Ricky and Morton

1049
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 5: we did it two hours on Saturday, two hours on Sunday,

1050
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: and we did one So that nine hours in one week.

1051
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: Nine hours are wrestling. It's a lot of yes, a lot,

1052
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: I mean nine out of a car.

1053
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: But so, how do you you're let's just say you're

1054
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: wrestling Ricky steamboat? How I mean, are you guys? Okay,

1055
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to sling into the rope?

1056
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 2: So how do you how do you know this call?

1057
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 5: He trusted me. You gotta be it being a ring general.

1058
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure you have said to do it

1059
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 5: because I don't know who. I can't remember which quarterback, John,

1060
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 5: but I'm sure there were time you said, John Sow

1061
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 5: to me, I'll catch it, right, I know I can

1062
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 5: beat the guy.

1063
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of like that they try your trust ee other, right.

1064
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 5: And then and then you have chemistry, and the chemistry

1065
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 5: is there. I mean, it's that's one of the key

1066
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 5: things you guys talk about.

1067
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: You know.

1068
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 5: It's like I'm watching Lebron last night. I mean, I

1069
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 5: don't know what in the hell, but the guy is unreal.

1070
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: I think he had thirty eight points last.

1071
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: Ye had twenty eight, he had twenty eight, ten or eleven?

1072
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, get Joe twenty eight.

1073
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1074
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,959
Speaker 5: I'm watching on airplane flying there, right, and I'm thinking

1075
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 5: to myself. Alan Hahn calls him an old man, right,

1076
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 5: you know, Alann, that's a guy. And he gets on,

1077
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 5: get up one and so on. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1078
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 5: calls him an old man. Want to insult. I want

1079
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 5: to jump from the TV and strangle so you. Oh god,

1080
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 5: I love him.

1081
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: You're kidding me.

1082
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: The king So Lebron Jordan, I mean Geordan's from North Carolina,

1083
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: had a place.

1084
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: I know, Microwell.

1085
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when it's Michael right, you mentioned the playing

1086
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: six to eight Yeah, two hundred and sixty five pounds,

1087
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: sixty six to fifteen.

1088
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 5: Right, I know, I know he was unreal. But what

1089
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 5: record does Lebron need to break to be just? I mean,

1090
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Speaker 5: he may average thirty points a game this year if

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Speaker 5: he wants to do it, it's unreal.

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Speaker 1: He and he don't take time off, no, no, if

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Speaker 1: he if he's I mean, the thing is, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: cheat the game. You know, when he's out there, he's

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Speaker 1: giving you everything he has. Yeah, and for him, if

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Speaker 1: he can't go, you know, something is seriously wrong because

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Speaker 1: he really for him to maintain the level of excellence

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Speaker 1: that he's had for twenty one years, that's love, that's dedication.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: I was sitting there watching and if you watch the

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Speaker 5: whole game, I was like he stared at all. He

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Speaker 5: just got it, turned it over a couple of times.

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Speaker 5: It's like it's been doing it to me. It's like

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Speaker 5: he's been doing it so long, right, and he spends

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Speaker 5: so much time in my mind, I perceive it trying

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Speaker 5: to get other players in it.

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Speaker 2: He does.

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Speaker 1: He loves to get the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy is Yes.

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Speaker 5: Then when anyone says they're not making the baskets, he

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Speaker 5: said said on the score, you know what, he just

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Speaker 5: scores and wants to right, But who's gonna stop him

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Speaker 5: driving the lane from the outside. I mean, unreal pulls

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Speaker 5: up a three point all of a sudden. See all

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Speaker 5: your guess theyll play that.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it.

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Speaker 2: He's unbelievable. Yeah,