1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Grandma called hi. Hey, he pulled me into office. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Was like your grandma called today, Grandma called, I'm Pinatuman. 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: And this is the NFL Player's Second Act podcast with 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: me as always my first skill host, mister Roman Harper. 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: What's up? I'm doing good man? This is gonna be 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: a great one right here. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 4: This is a legendary guy that we got here and 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 4: for a lot of more ways than just being on 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: the football field. So I'm not even gonna waste any 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: guy's time. Let's jump right into a peanut because I 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: want to get as much as you can. 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: I mean, this dude, this dude right here is a 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: He's your quarterback's favorite quarterback. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Yes you know what I'm saying, Like like he was him. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: Your quarterbacks favorite quarterback, no doubt be number one overall pick. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 3: Thirteen year NFL VET, four time Pro Bowler, recent inductee 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: into the College Football Hall of Fame, and now the 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: head coach of Norfolk State. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: Michael Vick post. I hustled to get here today, baby, 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: Hey man, what you mean you hustled to get here? 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 5: I was coming from a rehearsal with Fox and we 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 5: was down in the super Dome and traffic is crazy 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 5: out there, so it was like I was borderline. It 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 5: was like twelve forty were with like one mile and 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: like thirty minutes and like this thing. You know, I'm 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 5: adding of them like two thirty by the time I 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 5: get here. Yeah, I say, man, for my boys, I'm 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: let me out so much, driver, let me out. I 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 5: found my way really quick, man, like for real. I 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: used the waves bo put the glasses on, hat down, 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 5: be lying I'm here. 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: Hey man, New Orleans. They ain't mess with nobody out here. 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody love New Orleans, everything about the culture. People. 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: You know. 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: I know you spent some time here of course a 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 5: little bit, and so yeah, well. 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: How's it or has it even sat in there like 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: you are a head coach of a college football team? 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I run, Thank you appreciate it. Ironically, this morning, 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: I'm thinking about all the things that I gotta do today. 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 5: I went to sleep kind of early last night, but 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: this morning I could not get the school football everything 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 5: that was happening within, you know, our. 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Football program out my mind. 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: And I'm telling myself, I gotta I gotta find some 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 5: time to get Norfolk State out of my mind because 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 5: my whole focus has been the you know, whatever I 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 5: gotta do on a day to day basis to turn 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 5: the program around. And I'm here, my guys are there, 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 5: and so I would say that it's really soaking in that, 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 5: you know, I'm a head football coach because instantly I 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 5: felt the responsibility and I got a lot of people 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 5: that I can't let down, include myself. But it's been 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: really fun the last month. It's been a lot of work, 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: more than I expected, but kind of anticipated it a 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 5: little bit, and so I'm not trying to feel overwhelmed 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 5: like I stepped into something I would and ready for it, 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: because mentally, I've been trying to prepare myself for coaching 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: because I knew I was going to do it one day, 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: whether it was at the age of forty eight or fifty. 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 5: And God put it in front of me at the 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 5: age of forty four, and I'm extremely blessed for that. 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 5: And I felt like, you know, it was put in 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 5: front of me for a reason, So go ahead, try 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: to walk through the door. 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: How are you now at a place where, like you said, 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: I can handle it now. 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 5: Always felt the responsibility of carrying a franchise or program. 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 5: Being a quarterback is a lot of responsibility, and so 70 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: I'm like taking on that burden now. I feel like 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: I'm back in the same realm, just not with the 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 5: football in my hands, which makes it a little more 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 5: frustrating because it's not for me to go dudes, for 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: me to hand it over to pretty much all my 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: quarterbacks at some point and for them to go out 76 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: and execute and do it. So I just I don't 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 5: know what that's going to feel like. Yeah, but I'm 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: trusting the process. 79 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about. 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: What you were wearing when you did your first press conference. 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: I mean, the jacket all good. Where the hell was 82 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: you going with that whistle? 83 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: Though? 84 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: Mike had Okay, okay, Oh, I love that whistle, So 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: you love while you're whistle that whistle. 86 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: I got it from Jimmy Johnson. 87 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 5: He presented it to me on the Fox set when 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 5: I made the announcement was made, and that day I 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 5: cried so much, man, that that whistle is like my 90 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 5: comfort level. And I cried, you know, because you know, 91 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: it was a bittersweet, you know, like I said, it 92 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 5: abruptly happened. 93 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: And I love working at Fox. I love the people 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: I was with. 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 5: I loved, you know, just the Fox in general, just 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 5: the whole you know, company, administration, everybody in it. And 97 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 5: they treated me with such respect over the last eight 98 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: years that allowed me to grow. 99 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: They gave me time. I felt like I matured there 100 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot. 101 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 5: And so, you know, going through the segment, it had 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 5: been a rough morning seeing everybody, and then they had 103 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 5: a segment that they put together with Jimmy, and so 104 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 5: Jimmy presented the whistle to me, and I just when 105 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 5: he gave it to me, I just it was like 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 5: a transformation, Like this is. 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: It officially made me a coach? 108 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 5: I felt like, And I was like, man, I'm carrying 109 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: this with me every day everywhere I go in a 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: football set. 111 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't want that way right now because I'm weird. 112 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 5: But the day I signed, I was like that whistle 113 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 5: was like my comfort level and kept me from crying. 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: And sometimes it do make me cry because I think 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: about the moment with Jimmy and I think about just 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: you know, the transformation. It's a different it's a career change, 117 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 5: and you know, a lot of people be afraid to change, 118 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 5: and I always tell people, don't be afraid to change. 119 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 5: I found myself telling people that don't be afraid to 120 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: change and experience change, because you know, people are afraid 121 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 5: of that. And there was a moment where I had 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 5: to be you know, strong in that moment and kind 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: of practice what I preached. 124 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you'd head coach, it's the first movie making 125 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: as your head coach. 126 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: What's the first decision? 127 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: Was the first thing? 128 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 5: First move I made as a head coach was hiring 129 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator. Okay, other positions, especially on the offensive 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: side of the ball. I know what I'm looking at. 131 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 5: I know what I'm looking for, But you guys know 132 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 5: on defense. Excuse me, you guys know on defense it's 133 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 5: a different dynamic. Like people take for granted that when 134 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 5: we say defensive win championships. 135 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: Man, you know you're just talking. No, it's the truth. 136 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: You know, you can score as many points as you want, 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 5: but if you can't get off that field. So I 138 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: wanted to find a good quality decordinator who you want 139 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: understood defenses and understood what it would take to win 140 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: in the me at conference and somebody who had experience 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: and loved it, was passionate about the game. And so, uh, 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 5: you know, my former teammate Turns Govin. He was the 143 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: guy that I spent a lot of time with over 144 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: the years he was at Florida Memorial. He's had a 145 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: success a lot of cessing his young football career, and 146 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 5: I expect them to be a rock star in this game. 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: And how have you been adjusting to the to the 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: job since being named a coach. 149 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: It's been an adjustment, big adjustment. Spend spending more time 150 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 5: on calls and spending time with donors, fundraising, Yeah, trying 151 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 5: to help the school and whatever way I can. 152 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: That hasn't been really overwhelming. It's been fun. 153 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, And knowing that you know, these reps that I 154 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: gotta get, These are rooms that I got to sit in, 155 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 5: conversations that I got to have, and I can't shy 156 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 5: away from it. So I'm looking at it like, man, 157 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: I'm maturing in a lot of ways, and there's no 158 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: different than what you know, Andy Reid might have went 159 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: through at some point, of Sean Payton or Chip Kelly, 160 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: all these guys that I've been around to work with 161 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: who kind of forewarmed me. If you get into coaching, 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: it's a lot of responsibility. So I'm just trying to 163 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: take it all this strap. 164 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: It's funny because a lot of people get into coaching 165 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: because we love football and the ex is and the 166 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: o's and on the grass. And then the only thing 167 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: you're telling me about right now is meetings, hugging, kissing babies, 168 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: raising money. 169 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: Sound I mean, sounds like coach. 170 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: You know, guys, you know why I say that though, 171 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: because we we know the football part. 172 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just like, can we just get to the 173 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 5: games already? And I but I know springball is around 174 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 5: the corner. But I can't get the spring ball without handling. 175 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: But I got to handle what's in front of me. 176 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 5: And so I'm like, let me back up and take 177 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 5: it one step at a time. It's almost like learning 178 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 5: the offense. I can't go on the field and try 179 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: to execute against the defense until I know exactly what 180 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 5: I'm doing. And so now, you know, trying to just 181 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: bring everything together structurally. So when we finally get to 182 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 5: the season, well we get to springball, I could just 183 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: focus on football and then I can tell everybody, Hey, 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 5: we're in springball right now. 185 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Give me a break. Okay. 186 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: So I also want to know one more thing, because 187 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: the college athlete now is different than when we were 188 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: in college. Yes, so everything's a little bit different. Yes, 189 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: And so how are you handling the today's college athlete 190 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: when I know we say that we can communicate with them, 191 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: and everybody's going to listen whatever mike Vic says to them, 192 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 4: right like, we're all going to hold onto your words. 193 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 4: But how are you adjusting as their coach? And that 194 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: I know they're going to be looking at me for 195 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: guidance and all those other things in front of that room, 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: And how are you looking at this young athlete like 197 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: what are they doing differently? 198 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: Or how are you treating them? 199 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: Trying to have an open line of communication form. They 200 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: all got my number, they all can reach out, they 201 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: all can call and they all different too. Some of 202 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: them are more outgoing than the others. Some of them 203 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 5: going to pick up the phone. Hey, coach, what you 204 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 5: think about this? Say coach? I'm trying to figure out 205 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: this situation. And I know some of them feel like 206 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 5: they don't want to bother me, but I make it 207 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 5: a point if I'm not busy to get back with them. 208 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 5: I want to have an open door policy. I want 209 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 5: them to feel like they can call me and talk 210 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: to me anytime and that's what I'm there form there 211 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: for leadership, and they're for mentors ship and to teaching 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 5: football at the end of the day and make them 213 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: better men. So that's a part of it, preaching communication 214 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: and how we got to communicate with one another. And 215 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: so I got to hold up to my endview, do 216 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: they treat. 217 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: You like a celebrity on that campus, because like it's 218 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: gotta be a little bit, you know what I mean. 219 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 5: Hey, so a couple of them asks for pictures already, 220 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like, man, and I love that for them. 221 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 5: I love the fact that they get to soak up 222 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 5: the whole experience. And so when a couple of them 223 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 5: asked me for pictures, I was like, this is really weird, 224 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: but I'm not gonna say nothing. 225 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: Come on, let's do it. 226 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 5: Because I could have easily been like, no, I'm your 227 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 5: coach now, don't we can take pictures all year? 228 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, let me just get it out 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: the way right now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 230 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: And so after a while, once once camps start, once 231 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 5: we get into spring ball, and I got to lay 232 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: into one of them. Yeah, that's when they're gonna be like, oh, 233 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 5: he's really coached for real, because it's gonna happen. It's 234 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: gonna happen, and I want to do it in the 235 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 5: most structured way and the best way where I can 236 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 5: communicate it so they understand. Like, you know, I watched 237 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: coaches like Andy and you know, Chip, Kelly Dan. We 238 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: never really raised their voices. 239 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: That guys. 240 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 5: They just they demanded respect. Y'all know, some coach All 241 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: coaches are different. We all had coaches. It was our 242 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: coaches and coaches too, And so I got to figure out, like, 243 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 5: what's what's my middle ground, Like what's gonna make me 244 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 5: a coach that they gonna respect. I think it happens 245 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: in the split second, like when something happens, you either 246 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 5: gonna lose it or you're gonna keep your cool or you're 247 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 5: gonna handle it how you're gonna handle it. And so 248 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 5: that's the exciting part I'm ready for. In the football 249 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: aspect of it. 250 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: What's one of the best lessons you've learned. You just 251 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: named some like five great coaches. What's one of the 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: best lessons you've learned. 253 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, treat everybody the same, you know in the program. 254 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 5: You know, whether it's the people in the cafeteria, you know, 255 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 5: our locker room. You know, treat the you know, treat 256 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 5: the schnitors, the same secretaries, everybody in the administration, you know, 257 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 5: showing them a great deal of respect, you know, because 258 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 5: that's what you want. And ultimately being the leader that 259 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 5: everybody feel like they can come to him, being accessible. 260 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 5: I want to be that guy when I leave, I 261 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 5: want them to say or if I have a leave 262 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 5: or whatever happens, like he did everything he can to 263 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: show that. You know, he was just like us, and 264 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: he wasn't the celebrity head coach. He was Mike Victor 265 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: football coach, and he really cared about everything that was 266 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 5: happening around us. And I want my coaches to feel 267 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 5: the same way. I want everybody to expire to be great, 268 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: and you know, we all take on the same attitude 269 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 5: of making sure that we hold ourselves accountable in every aspect. 270 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and we'll be 271 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: right back. 272 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: Tell me or help me define what success would look 273 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: like at Norfolk State this. You know, I don't want 274 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: to bring up too much, but they haven't had They 275 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: were four and eight last season, and so what does 276 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: success look like with you guys going forward. 277 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 5: Day, I'm gonna start with the now because I feel 278 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 5: like we got to win it every quarter of the 279 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 5: year this year, and so in this quarter, we got 280 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: to be the best that we can be in our 281 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 5: strength and conditioning program. You know, obviously it's a lot 282 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 5: of voys and a lot of things that can be 283 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: fixed that I pointed out, and we want to start 284 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 5: with this quarter. When we get into the spring ball 285 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 5: the second quarter, I expect us to go out and 286 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: be officient. In the spring, learn the offense, learn the 287 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 5: little things, the details. I expect the coaches to be 288 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: on top of the players and the players, asking a 289 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 5: lot of questions and as we learn, you. 290 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Know, the newness. 291 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 5: And then in the summer, I don't want anybody to 292 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 5: take any days off like you know, we know how 293 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 5: in college football is summer was really it was important. 294 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 5: I know one summer I took off and all my 295 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 5: numbers dropped in the weight room like Vince went down, 296 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 5: Squat went down. The second year after I thought I 297 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 5: made it, so you should never really feel like you 298 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 5: made it. 299 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: And then in the in the final quarter, go. 300 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 5: Out there and and let it all out and ultimately 301 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 5: compete for that MEAC championship. That's that's a successful season. 302 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna set high standards and high goals and 303 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: very lofty and they might not they might be far fetched, 304 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 5: but you know, we're gonna shoot for him and if 305 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: we miss, we're gonna be right there. 306 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: It's because it's coming. It's gonna happen. 307 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: I want to read some names to you. Deonne Sanders, 308 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: Jackson State here co former Jackson State head coach, Adie 309 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: George Tennessee State, Terrence matthis Morehouse, Deshaun Jackson, Delaware State. Uh, 310 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: Charyl Buckley in Missipi Missippi Valley State. 311 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 5: To real Buckley cornerback to real b Yeah, t buck 312 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: no doubt. 313 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: It's a big fan. 314 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that. 315 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: They'll probably add them to the group chat. We got 316 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 5: a group chat with all those coaches that put together 317 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: and a really cool chat that let everybody know what's 318 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 5: going on. Players out there, who got because you know 319 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: a lot of these players you can't keep. You want everybody. 320 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: You want everybody to land on their feet. Plus it's 321 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 5: good for the program. Yeah, when guys transfer out that 322 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 5: they find a home as well. It really helps. So yeah, 323 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: but but no, I just wanted thoughts. 324 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, you got former players and head coaches HBCUs 325 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: like it's dope. 326 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: Man. 327 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 5: Like I ran into Eddie the other night and Eddie 328 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: and I had a conversation, good conversation, and I'm telling 329 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: them I was trying to find a coordinator and he 330 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: was like, man, I don't been through a couple. And 331 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: I'm like, don't tell me that is that the process 332 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 5: just got to find one good one. And then you know, 333 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: like Terrence and d Shaun and these you know, these 334 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 5: guys he buck as you just mentioned, really getting the 335 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: opportunities to come in and be head football coaches. And 336 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: it wasn't that way a couple of years ago, I 337 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: think five years ago. 338 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you look, you look at a guy like. 339 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 5: Deon Sanders, who, since the Deon Seners era started in Atlanta, 340 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: has been transcending the game of football in so many ways. 341 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: And here it is. 342 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 5: Here he is later on in life, enjoying the fruits 343 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 5: of labor, enjoying his profession and occupation, and still giving 344 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 5: back and helping guys like us. He was one of 345 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: the first people to reach out. I reached out to 346 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 5: him first. But spent some time with him a couple 347 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 5: of years ago and told him this is what I 348 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: wanted to do down the road. And he was just 349 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: always like, why wait, you know, it's not gonna take 350 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: long for you. 351 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: You know. 352 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: He always looked on the bright side when I'm thinking 353 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 5: in my mind, Oh, it's gonna be different. I gotta work, 354 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 5: And he just he spoke everything into existence, he really did. 355 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: I was just so excited for you guys. 356 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: I saw Djack he coaching the high school four year 357 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: back home. Yeah, in Southern cal back at home, and 358 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: just when you see all these young guys that are 359 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: now just becoming head coaches. Yeah, it can only encourage you, 360 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: right that you know, you guys are continue to do 361 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: these things. But do you ever worry about like man, 362 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: because as most black coaches, you don't get to fail twice? 363 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: Is that ever, like in the back of your mind, 364 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 4: like it's just understood. 365 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so afraid to fail. Like I know one. 366 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: Football is a collective effort, you know, And I'm not 367 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: going to shy away from this. 368 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: It's gonna start with the coaches. 369 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, And Jimmy Johnson told me, like it starts with 370 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: the players. Then the coach, I'm gonna kind of look 371 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: at it all in the sense of, look, it's got 372 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: to happen in your INNI since you gotta have good 373 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: coaches and good players, and then we'll work from there. 374 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 5: But always being afraid to fail. I think it's gonna 375 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 5: keep me up at night and keep us working hard. 376 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: And that's the way it should be. You know, we 377 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: want that type of pressure. We've been through that type 378 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 5: of pressure. And how many nights were the night before 379 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: the game you worried about a receiver, you worried about 380 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 5: you know, some type of you know, double move they 381 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: might try, you know, and it's gonna keep you up, 382 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 5: but you're prepare for it, and you know when it happens, 383 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: you know, you just got to be ready for it. 384 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: And fortunately and unfortunately that's as coaches and players gonna 385 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: deal with those moments. 386 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: And that's that's perseverance, is how we come out. 387 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 5: When you come out on top and on the other side, 388 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 5: y'all know how good that feels. Both of y'all haven't 389 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 5: played on big stage. 390 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to know your thoughts on having 391 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: two black quarterbacks in the Super Bowl. 392 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: Again, it's amazing, It's amazing. 393 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 5: You're looking at two guys who got a whole generation 394 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 5: of players watching them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 395 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 5: like what they represent, And it's the second time in 396 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: what three. 397 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: Years the same. 398 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 5: Same, yeah, same to the best of the best in 399 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 5: the National Football League and set high bars and high precedent. 400 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: And you're looking at two guys who just really believe 401 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 5: in themselves and got the right structure around him, got 402 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 5: like minded people around him, and I think that goes 403 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: a long way. So, man, these these guys are so 404 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 5: good nowadays. Man like Jalen, he didn't he just had 405 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 5: to do his part. He didn't even have to do 406 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 5: a lot and just be smart with the football not 407 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 5: turn it over. And Patrick probably had to do a 408 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 5: little bit more because it didn't feel like, uh he 409 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 5: had the type of running game that that Jalen had. 410 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: The games wasn't as close at times, so he probably 411 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: had more responsibility. But you know, they dominated all the 412 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 5: way through, and I say the two best teams made it. 413 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: I agree. 414 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: Recently, you came out with the Evolution of the Black 415 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: Quarterback documentary, both of those guys in it. Yeah, yeah, 416 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: and I've watched it. It's it's amazing. If you haven't 417 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: seen it, you got to watch what was one of 418 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: the most rewarding things by doing that, that documentary to. 419 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 5: Be able to gather all these quarterbacks, and really it 420 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 5: was the older guys that you know, the Warren Moons 421 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: and the Doug Williams and Shaq Harris, like their stories. 422 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: You know, it just made me. 423 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: It made me sad one, but it also made me 424 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 5: feel good about taking the game serious as a black 425 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: quarterback and going to Atlanta and you know, high expectations 426 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 5: without even knowing the background of what they really went through, 427 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 5: and in the early two thousands saying, you know, I'm 428 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 5: going to try to represent this position the best way 429 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: I can. I know I'm representing the National Football League, 430 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 5: but I also know I'm represented for a generation of 431 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 5: quarterbacks is gonna come after me. Without even knowing that 432 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 5: I was going to have success, Like I know that 433 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 5: this is a major moment. But I looked at the 434 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 5: National Football League and I'm making the decision the Atlanta Falcons. 435 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 5: I would say to draft me number one, and Dan 436 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 5: Reeves drafted me number one. It showed a change in time, 437 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 5: and it showed a shift you know in society. I 438 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 5: felt like. And then ten years later, man, you got 439 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 5: Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, cap G three, you know what 440 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 5: I'm saying, breaking in and then you know, it's just 441 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: how you got Lamar Patrick and jay Lee. It's like, oh, 442 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: we can do this, man, we can do this. So yeah, 443 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 5: that's what going back to those old stories and I 444 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: wanted to go back to that and then work forward 445 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 5: to where we are today. 446 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you did a great job. Yeah, man, And you 447 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: talk about the evolution. I got the numbers for you 448 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: right here. This year it was the fifteen black quarterbacks 449 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: started in Week one. 450 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: It was the most in the NFL history. 451 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 4: And in two thousand and one when you were drafted, 452 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: ten teams still hadn't even had a black quarterback. 453 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: But really, yeah, okay, I didn't know that that should 454 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 1: have been. That's the crazy part. It's not. 455 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: It's not that like I was born when Warren Moon 456 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: had to deal with all this, Like, it wasn't like 457 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: I was alive. 458 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't that long ago. So just imagine that. 459 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, two thousand and one, when you got drafted and 460 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 4: when we came the starting quarterback, still teams that still 461 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 4: hadn't even had one yet, so that as far the 462 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 4: evolution has come. 463 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: And who is your favorite quarterback in the NFL right now? Man? 464 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: I like, I like so many of them. Man, I'm 465 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: only giving you one, give me one. I'm gonna make 466 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: it harder. I'm not gonna let this. 467 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, give us the politically correct ones. 468 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 5: No this, No, I'm gonna give you my like, my 469 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: my favorite quarterback to. 470 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 4: Watch when the TV come on, Yeah, I want to watch. 471 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 4: I'm not saying ability. 472 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: I can name a lot of them, but man, when 473 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: pasttick mahomes come on, it's like, because I grew up 474 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: Steve Young, yeah, and then John Alway and so you know, 475 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 5: I love Steve. 476 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: Steve was left handed and Steve was a scrambler. 477 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 5: But I loved John because John was just scrappy and 478 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: he was right you know, he threw with his right hand. 479 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 5: But he wore number seven and I loved the number seven. 480 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 5: And he was just like he was amazed. 481 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: He'll run it a. 482 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: Little bit at the cannon for Super Bowls never and 483 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 5: I'm like he was. John was more exciting than Steve, 484 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 5: and he played them on games so instantly. When I 485 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 5: was in camp with the Kansas City Chiefs in twenty seventeen. 486 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 5: I was like doing the internship for coaching actually, and 487 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 5: I was just like, man, this dude before he even 488 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 5: touch the field, he's a rookie, and I'm like, he's 489 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 5: John Alway all over again. I told any that John 490 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 5: Elway all this movement and strong arm, and and then 491 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 5: he just took the league by storm. So it's like 492 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: when fifteen come on, like I stop everything to watch fifteen. 493 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: For sure, you know what I mean. It's a good, 494 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: no doubt, it's a great man. He couldn't go. I 495 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: don't think anyone. 496 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone sayidiversity, Yeah, fourth quarter, fourth quarter, 497 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: down by every time, every time I want to know, 498 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: what was your welcome to the NFL moment? 499 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: It's actually paying against the best. 500 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 5: I think it was maybe Week two or three and 501 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: the best came to Atlanta and I was a rookie. 502 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 5: I'll still learning the offense and Big Tied Washington was 503 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 5: in the middle, yeh, Mike Brown was at safety. Uh 504 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 5: Couplacer was in the middle, and I just remember like 505 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: going into the game, Chris Chandler went down and I'm like, yo, okay, 506 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 5: I'm about to go in and I'm gonna get my 507 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: feet wet. And Number I was coming out of preseason too. 508 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 5: I had a really good preseason, but that game was 509 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 5: so hard. And I was making throws and I was 510 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 5: making plays, but it's like I'll take ten steps forward 511 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 5: and I take twenty steps back. First down, down, nice past, 512 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 5: then the sack first down, first down, and then the 513 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 5: strip sack fumble man, and I just never forget how 514 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 5: intense it was to make matters worse. Scrimming out to 515 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: the left side, rent on their sideline, and it was 516 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 5: just I just heard somebody like take out his legs, 517 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: take out his legs. I'm like, hold on, you're already 518 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: beating the living life out of it. Y'all want to 519 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: y'all still? And that's when I realized, like, it ain't 520 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: no friends when you step on that were just joking 521 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 5: before the game, like talking, you're not being right, talkt 522 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 5: your family, you know, how has your transition. 523 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's gonna be man. We got in 524 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the game. It was boys was flying around in us. Yo. 525 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: This this is the league. This ain't college football. 526 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: This ain't Virginia Tech versus Syracuse or Virginia Tech versus 527 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 5: Boston College. 528 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: This good, great, on great every day. 529 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: See, I thought you would have said the hit with 530 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 3: Brian Dawkins four. 531 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: Years later now they if you go back and watch 532 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 5: that game against Man, they was bro I took some 533 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: shots that day. 534 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: It was so bad. It was so bad. My grandmother 535 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: rested in peace. Kalitha. 536 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 5: My grandmother called up to the Atlanta Falcons facility and 537 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 5: was like, y'all gotta protect him better. And he was 538 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 5: taking a lot of his because my grandma see him 539 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 5: coming out to college where it was flawless, and she 540 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 5: just seen me get whipped by thirty and and not 541 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 5: even like do anything. Yeah, and then you know, being 542 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: a backup Chris Chandler went down. 543 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm a rookie. 544 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 5: It was just it was just really really hard and 545 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 5: complicated out there. 546 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: I just love the fact that Grandma called the facility, 547 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: not to Grandma called here. He pulled me into the office, 548 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: was like your grandma called to day. 549 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: I was like, grand my grandma call. I called him Grandma, 550 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 5: I'm grown, I'm gonna figure it out, Grandma, please don't 551 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 5: embarrass me like that. He was coaches, like your grandma 552 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 5: called up here today. Something I should know. Nah, coach, 553 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: be good. 554 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 555 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: What is your favorite game you ever played it? 556 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 5: My favorite game that I played in was the game 557 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: against Green Bay the playoffs. That game right there, not 558 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 5: just because we was the underdogs a couple of reasons. 559 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: Brent Father was on the other side. Green Bay had 560 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: never never lost. 561 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 5: At home, and I remember coaching the beginning of the 562 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 5: week saying, everybody is against us. They never lost their home, 563 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 5: and I'm like, that's something to play for right there. 564 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, Brent fov over there. 565 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 5: Though I see him CoV up teams over the years 566 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 5: as I was a young kid watching it's gonna be 567 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: impossible to beat them. It was snowing, but it was 568 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 5: like not too cold, and you know, the snow wasn't 569 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 5: coming down. 570 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: To it was like the perfect night. Yeah. John Madden 571 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: up in the booth like. 572 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 5: This is this is like what I've ever what I've 573 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 5: dreamed of, an opportunity to, you know, obviously go one 574 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 5: one step further to the Division A round the playoffs, 575 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 5: and I was in his own that night. We came 576 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 5: out to First Drive and scored and we won twenty 577 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 5: seven to seven, and it was just like one of 578 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 5: the easiest games I ever played in. 579 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 580 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: I don't mean easy, but you know you have some 581 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: games seeom mistakes. Yeah, y'all know you really like really 582 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 5: no mistakes. 583 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this where you know, I've been 584 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: in games where like, dude, I just I got to 585 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: feel any about the block is gonna be running, and 586 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: I'm already and it every single time, I was just right, 587 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: and you just every anticipated right, this, this, that and 588 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: the other. 589 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: You just literally in this out. You don't know why, 590 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: but everything just you was on that team. 591 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: And in New Orleans twenty twelve, Yes, became Bhilly We came here, yep, yeah, yeah, 592 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 5: he was in his zone that night. 593 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: You can't do nothing, bro. That was a tough night. Yeah, 594 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: that was it. Does Then y'all came to I don't 595 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: know that was the game. 596 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 5: All these losses, but you know I'm talking about y'all 597 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: being on top of y'all game. Y'all came in twenty 598 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: eleven to Philly Chicago. Yeah, he plays on twenty ten too. 599 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, the best ones was all right. 600 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: Two thousand and six, the reopening the dome here, that 601 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: was a tough loss. 602 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: For you. I spoke to you. Was on that team. Yeah, 603 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: that was my rookie year. Wow. 604 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: I was so excited to play against Mike Vic. I 605 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: was really like, dude, like that's Mike Vick on the side, 606 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: because I mean, I'm Madden guy. 607 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, and you know, everybody 608 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: loved playing That wasn't take experience. 609 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: That was you know, even speaking to your wife, she's like, 610 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: that was the only game I've ever been was like, 611 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: we have no chance to It only. 612 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: Came out of being I came out of it like 613 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 5: questioning my abilities, like I don't know how much long 614 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: I can do this because that right there, I've never 615 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 5: been shut down. You know, you had those moments where 616 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 5: you get dominated. It shook my confidence a. 617 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: Little bit and you you still played great. 618 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: We just you just it was that like nobody I 619 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 4: don't think you could have did anything was locked in 620 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: the beginning. Yeah, by Steve bro that was legendary right 621 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 4: then and there. 622 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 5: I was like, we have no chance of winning. It's 623 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: funny because Jim Moore, I love Jim Moore. 624 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: I think it was. 625 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 5: It might have been a Thursday night maybe so on 626 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 5: Sunday night, Yeah, it was Monday night, Monday night, and 627 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, they think they setting us up, and 628 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: you know, we gotta play them coming back. 629 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, man, we're gonna go in there. 630 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna. 631 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 5: Instantly felt the energy the city was back, you know 632 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, which I wanted y'all want. 633 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: To ship a couple of years later, Yeah, we did. 634 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: The energy wasthing it on TV. Man' that's how That's how. 635 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: Real it was. 636 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: And you know, that was my first time in that building, so, 637 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: like I because we were you know, Hurricane Katrina, so 638 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 4: it was literally just my first time in the building. 639 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: I didn't feel any of that emotion. I was like 640 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: looking around and seeing people crying, seeing people the emotions 641 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: in the building, and you could probably see it on 642 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: your sideline too, But to me, I didn't understand why, 643 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: right because I had never been in their previously before. 644 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: But now as I've gotten older and looked back at it, 645 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: I appreciate being in that moment and in that building 646 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: just for what it was. 647 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's unfortunate versus. 648 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 5: Like the only time I come here to New Orleans. 649 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 5: I think about that and I'm just like proud that 650 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: the city bounce back the way it did, and then 651 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 5: you know we had the tragedy. 652 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Bro, you can't catch a break right now. 653 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: I think that was just a bigger than a football 654 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: moment right now. 655 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was bigger than football. Absolutely, absolutely. 656 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 4: I want to talk about you know, we talked about 657 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: some of your losses. Let's talk about something that I 658 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: know you're probably extremely proud of, and that is going 659 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: to the College Football Hall of Fame. You're in the 660 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: class of twenty twenty five with some other big names 661 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: Michael Strahan, Nick Saban's going in, Urvin Meyer, Helodi nod 662 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: is another one. And before you give me your answer, 663 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: I think it's important to know who and where you 664 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: come from as well, because, like I said earlier, you 665 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: always have felt like you had to carry the lot 666 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 4: for a lot of people around you, your family, your brother, 667 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 4: your friends, right from your city, like you've always done that. 668 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: And then also your past that's checkered as well. But 669 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: one of the biggest things that it says to be 670 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: induct into the College Football Hall of Fame is that 671 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: it involves this. This is their criteria. While each nominees 672 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: football achievements in college or a prime consideration his past 673 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: football record as a citizen is also weighed. He must 674 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: have proven himself worthy as a citizen, carrying the ideals 675 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: of football forward into the relations with his community. So 676 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 4: when you hear that you check that box, what does 677 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: that make you feel? 678 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 5: It is probably one of the biggest, you know, compliments 679 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 5: that I can obtain right now in my life. Man. 680 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: And you know, everybody make mistakes, and some of them 681 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: are just more detrimental than others. And obviously I made 682 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 5: a mistake that was like detrimental in like the middle 683 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 5: of my career, in my prime, and had plenty of 684 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: nights to think about making it right. And so you know, 685 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 5: my promise to myself, my family and the people who 686 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: poured into me was I'm gonna do everything I can 687 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: because it can't be just to try to make amends 688 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: for the public. So it looks a certain way. You 689 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 5: gotta you know, when when you fall that far, you 690 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 5: gotta you know, your heart got to be into you know, 691 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 5: your passion got to be into you know, I'm gonna 692 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 5: do things the right way and taking on that martu 693 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 5: which coach Bemer always said in team meetings, gonna in life. 694 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 5: You gotta do things the right way, and I came 695 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: back with that mindset, man, and ever since two thousand 696 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 5: and nine, I've been trying to. 697 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Do things the right way. 698 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 5: And for you to read that and for me to 699 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 5: just hear that as far as the criteria, you know, 700 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 5: it makes. 701 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: Me really proud. It makes me really proud. 702 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: Man. 703 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: It's bigger than football. You know. 704 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 5: It's about your belief and yourself and your perseverance. And man, 705 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: that those are the same principles and values that I 706 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 5: can pass down on my kids and you know, if 707 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: they ever get out of line. Hey, I want you 708 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 5: to read this quote right here, the one you just read, 709 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 5: because I had to. 710 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: I had to battle. 711 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 5: I had to fight, and it was a it was 712 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 5: a good fight, and it made me the person that 713 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: I am today. And you know, obviously, you don't get 714 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 5: an opportunity to do certain things like work on Fox 715 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 5: or be a head coach if you don't meet those criterias. 716 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 5: And that was before you know, this even happened. So 717 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 5: you know, people paid attention and you know, check those boxes. 718 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 5: And you know what, I'm gonna keep checking them. You 719 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying that right there gonna keep me. 720 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 5: You know, I want to continue to try to be 721 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 5: a better person and continue to set high standards. 722 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: For sure. 723 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: How does your past, you know, how does your past 724 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: fuel you just to motivate you to be better today? 725 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, just for really one day at a time approach, 726 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 5: you know, knowing that you can go twenty three hours 727 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: in the day, you know, doing the right thing, and 728 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 5: you slip up in that final hour and then that's 729 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 5: that's what That's what they're gonna remember, that's what they're 730 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 5: gonna talk about. So it can be the most minute things. 731 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: And so to think every situation through and now being 732 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 5: a coach, like the standards that I'm setting for myself 733 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 5: or setting for the young men, I got to set 734 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 5: for myself as well. And so you know, just being 735 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 5: conscious in the moment always and you know, knowing that 736 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 5: you know, not just for the players, but even my kids, 737 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 5: and you know, and that's probably shit. You know, reference 738 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 5: them first, you being the best example that I can 739 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 5: be for them because I'm always monitor them. I'm always 740 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 5: trying to be the quarterback in the house and you know, 741 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 5: send them off and let him run to play man 742 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 5: and the hopefully they execute it. 743 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: Hold are your kids. 744 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 5: My oldest son is twenty two, he's inspiring to be 745 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: an actor. My oldest daughter's twenty she was playing flag football. 746 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 5: Mike said, my seventeen year old daughter just got a 747 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 5: license today. 748 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a little scary. 749 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 5: And then I got a seven year old son who 750 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 5: just finished his first year of flag football, you know, 751 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 5: just recognizing what was going on. He really wasn't locked in, 752 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 5: but it was a good experience to watch him out there. 753 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 5: He like, Daddy, I want to play tackle. Bro, you 754 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 5: got to learn to pull a flag first. 755 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 4: That's he's like that black's born. I'm like, bro, Bro, like, Bro, 756 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 4: you you're all right, man. Learn how to play in. 757 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: One period of time. That's it. Yes, And football is 758 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: a one sport that you can play later yeah and 759 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: still be great. Yeah. 760 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 5: I mean I know guys who started playing that junior 761 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 5: year made it to the league and been some of 762 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 5: the best. 763 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: So have you got time? Yes? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 764 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: So my last question is, you know, we've asked this 765 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 3: question to a lot of people that came on the pod, 766 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore. If you had your personal Mount Rushmore of 767 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: people that have helped you, shaped you, molded you, mentoreds 768 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: you coached you. Just to get you from when you 769 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: was a little pup to where you are right now 770 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 3: a head coach of Norfolk State. Who would those four 771 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 3: people be? 772 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: Wow? 773 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 5: Man, it's all coaches, man, ironically, because I felt like 774 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 5: they was always the ones who was like there when 775 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 5: I needed them the most. 776 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: My high school coach, Timmy Raymond. 777 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 5: College coach Frank Beamer, Dan Reeves, and Jim Moore and 778 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 5: then Andy Andy Reid, and. 779 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people in between. 780 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 5: But it it's like, you know, part of the reasons 781 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 5: I wanted to become a head coach is because I 782 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 5: know what it means to a young man who just 783 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 5: needs some guidance. And sometimes we might might not have 784 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 5: both parents in the household. It's something something might be lacking. 785 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 5: A lot of kids are different, Some are outgoing, some 786 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 5: of them are introverted. You know, I was one of 787 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 5: the introverted kids, and they had to pull a lot 788 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 5: out of me. 789 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: I got it. 790 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 5: It's a strength to your coach. You know, I need 791 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 5: some help with this coach and what you think about this, 792 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 5: And I just wanted to. I want to be that 793 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 5: for them, you know, for my my players, you know, 794 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 5: for my kids. And so when I think about all 795 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 5: the great the greatest mentors in my life. Man, I 796 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 5: just think about the guys who coached me. 797 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 3: Well, Mike, Man, you're awesome as always. 798 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: No doubt, man, you no doubt. 799 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: Really proud of you, man, honestly, man, you know what 800 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: I do want to ask one more quick The Michael 801 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: Vick Experience probably one of the greatest, most underrated commercials. 802 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: Of all time. If you could have a roller coaster, like, 803 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: what would it? Just like that? 804 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 5: It was just like guys like y'all coming at me, 805 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 5: you coming down in the box, pean up, punching at 806 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 5: the ball to us, Me trying to get away. 807 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: Man. 808 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 5: That was like a commercial that I didn't approve of 809 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: because I'm like, man, I need something more urban. 810 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: I need to be running through the neighborhood. 811 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, sweatsuit on sweating and you know something that's 812 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 5: more dramatic. And now that I look at that commercial, 813 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, they knocked that one out the park. 814 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 5: They knocked that one out the park because you know, 815 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 5: it's about longevity. And we got generations who still talk 816 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 5: about that commercial and the Michael Vick Experience. You know, 817 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 5: somebody was way ahead of their time. So yeah, no, 818 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 5: It's a cool moment, man, definitely cool. 819 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 3: You were trends that are at the position on shoes. 820 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can get that if you're not doing something right, 821 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 5: So you are you gonna bring it back? 822 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: Like like I'm trying to work on the retro with Nike. 823 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 5: Hopefully they'll see that it is worth it and it 824 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 5: makes sense to them and so it you know, part 825 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: of the reason I took the job and found out 826 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 5: there was a Nike school and like, man, we can 827 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 5: do something with this. Yeah yeah, so hopefully man praying and. 828 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 1: Then get them in the golf version too, so I can. 829 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, we definitely make it a golf shoot 830 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 5: for sure. Okay, but man, different brand. But we appreciate 831 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 5: you coming out great. Man, this is awesome. Bro, this 832 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 5: was so dope. 833 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 3: I've always been a fan of yours. Just yeah, just 834 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 3: I'm a Michael Vave fan. 835 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: Man, appreciate you coming on. 836 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 3: Wishing you another success. 837 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, man, appreciate it, Yes, sir, h