1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast, it will be the next 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: team featured on Hard Knocks. It's possible. Then what are 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: we doing? Rum parts unknown? It's another edition of Around 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: the NFL. My name is Dan hanss Greg Rosenthal, Mark 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Sessler from different parts of America. Yeah, this, this Hard 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Knocks thing is a curiosity and a concern for me 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: because we have teams like the Bears and Jets coming 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: out and saying they don't want to do it. And 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: it just seems odd to me that the Lions got 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: massive pop off that show last year in a great 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: wave of a personal good or goodwill uh and and 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: that didn't move the needle, and it makes me worried 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: about the future of Hard Knocks potentially slipping away entirely. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: The Lions can't sell it to these have notts who. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 2: Can I I'm not worried, but I am I take 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: out of the gate. I'm just saying they're going to 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: make some team do it and it'll be great, and 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: it's HBO and it's too good for the NFL to 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: go away. And so maybe if a team is a 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: little ornery about it, that's not the worst. But I 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: would like to see a Hard Knocks about us. I 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: mean that the drama, the subplots. I like, Mark, what 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: would you think would be a big takeaway for Hard 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Knocks at M viewers. 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I guess there'd be invariably you'd have 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 3: to track each of us pretty deeply in our personal lives, 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: because although we text each other a lot, we see 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: each other like maybe a couple hours a week when 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: we're doing the show. So there'd be a lot of 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: other content coming from beyond the show. 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: And I think I'm a. 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: Mess with the mirage and we hang out outside of work. 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: You're right, it's no, we do. 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: But I mean, it's just like there would be a 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: lot of I would doesn't know when you say don't 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: mess with the mirage, I'm joking. 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I think it would be good Hard Knocks for our 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: show in the sense that, you know, when we all 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: come back from our summer vacations in July, we're always, 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, very refreshed and recharged. But our version of 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks would also capture that creeping horror when the 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: realization in like the end of August early September hits 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: that oh my god, this is happening again, and we 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: have you know, roughly seven thousand hours of content to 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: fill and another season is upon us. 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: That's trauma, though, there's natural conflict, and we'd all be 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: responding to it very differently. 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. It's a quiet week in June, not as 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: quie as it will be starting next week. There are 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: some teams that are concluding their mandatory mini camps this week. 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: Some teams wrapped it up last week. Some teams are 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: excusing their veterans entirely. It's obviously different than it used 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: to be in our league, and I don't think that's 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: a bad thing. We will be going through some news 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: coming out of camps in a bit. 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 5: And and. 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Mark, you're a lover, right, yeah? 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: I think so. I mean I have that capacity, you. 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: Have the I have the capacity to love. We're gonna 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell some love stories, uh to you figures 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: or entities. I don't know. I don't know what you 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be talking about, really, but in the 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: NFL we're telling some love stories today. 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this is absolutely a Sessler jam. This is uh, 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: Sessler is a lover. I mean he's too modest there. 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what he's trying to hide, but just 67 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: just ask some of the co eds at Camp Happiness. 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: He ran through that thing like a tornado. 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: You know that is mythical. 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: I would say that, like, because you know, I kind 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: of pitched this segment yesterday. Then as we get closer 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: and closer to the show, even waking up this morning 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: early was like, I have no idea as usual what 74 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: this segment is, and I and I created it, so 75 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: we will see what comes out of this. 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: It's a good one. I like it. 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Why do you do that, Greg, Because whenever Mark pitches 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: an idea, I feel like there comes a level of 79 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: apprehension from marking anxiety about it going well. We don't 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: need to ramp up the pressure. It's not on Mark 81 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: to miss the segment. Sing. No, it was a good idea, 82 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: and now it becomes our job collectively to make it sing. 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: It was a it was a great idea, and I 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: always love a Mark suggestion because they always do sing. 85 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we need we need that left of center 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: energy right now in the middle of June. 87 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: Well, we'll see, we'll see how we fare. 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: We're in the middle of a strange kitchen wherever you are, Greg. 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: Right now, I am renting a house. Uh, visiting my 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: parents in Massachusetts. 91 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of cedar behind you. 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice. It's new. I like kind of cleaned 93 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: it before we start. So that's it's just an invite 94 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: to watch us on YouTube. Check us out. 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Are we going to get any wives and children cameos 96 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: walking in the background. 97 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: That's why I've been I've banished my children to my 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: brother's house for the podcast, and no. Emica made it 99 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: clear she wanted to get everything handled so she does 100 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: not end up on YouTube. She will not be there. 101 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: Damn it. Mark another chance to see Emica by the boards. 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's not. 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: It's a privilege when it happens, but it's it's an 104 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: elusive target. 105 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a leapyard type thing for marketing. 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news. 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 5: Mel the Cowboy thirty five single back two tight ends. 108 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: Let's over with the three man front snap spam handed off. 109 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Barkley over the white car said, pretty fine, Princey Tucker, 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: pretty tall, he's. 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: On the thirty feel work for the news on fifteen 112 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: ten fine bunk Forsauld one. He's inside the. 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Pine one with a touchdown. Barkley with a thirty six 114 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: yard touchdown run for the Giants. Ah, there is that man, 115 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley who came back from a knee injury, got 116 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: some new coaching with Brian Dable and company, and had 117 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: a big year for the Giants, A big year that 118 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: in some cases might lead to a big contract with 119 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: his rookie deal coming up, but that hasn't happened yet. 120 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: And Saquon Barkley was at a charity event. Isn't it 121 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: weird these charity events, by the way in June, especially 122 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: whenever a team's dealing with or a players dealing with 123 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: contract squabbles or some type of heat. Maybe it's a 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: double edged sword, or maybe it works for both sides 125 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: because the media is showing up in mass to talk 126 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: about the player's issue with the team or whatever the 127 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: controversy is. But it also does get a ton of 128 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: media to said charity event, this one some Saquon Kids 129 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Camp in Jersey City. Anyway, he was asked about his 130 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: uncertain situation, and I must add as a setup here 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: when he was asked whether or not he would consider 132 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: sitting out the twenty twenty three season rather than playing 133 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: on the franchise tag, Barkley said, that's a car I 134 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: could play. Here's some more. Where are the. 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 5: States with negotiats now there? 136 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: Are you talking? Are they open to talking right now? 137 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: Or are you kind of just in a holding Tanner? 138 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: I think they're open to talking. 139 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 6: I think I'm open to talking. But I think at 140 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 6: the end of the day, you really break it down 141 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 6: and break break it down and look at it as 142 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 6: a whole. You know, there's no rush, there's no rush. 143 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 6: You'll you'll still have Tom. There's still time on the table, 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 6: So pause, you're last seventeen July seventeenth. It's not too long, 145 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 6: it's not in the week. What's up Tom? And that's 146 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 6: how I look at it. 147 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: I guess that's the Maybe that's like the naive. 148 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 6: Way you to look at it, and I could be 149 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 6: completely wrong. 150 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: But for me, that's how I look at it. 151 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 6: And I trust my team and hopefully I trust the Giants. 152 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: I can get something done. 153 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: So. 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Ralph Aciano has been covering the New York Beat forever 155 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: now with Fox Sports, wrote last month that it doesn't 156 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: sound like a long term deal for Barkley is particularly close. 157 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Greggie set to play on the tag that will pay 158 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: him just over ten million do you think there's any 159 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: chance he gets a deal. 160 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: Here, Yes, because it sounded like, according to our guy 161 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: Mike Garrifolo, there were some pretty good offers coming from 162 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: the Giants before the tag was applied. Garifolo had said 163 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: it was in the twelve million dollars a year range. 164 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: It's all about structure and guarantees and so that you 165 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: never know exactly what that means. But it seems like 166 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: compared to Josh Jacobs, for instance, these two guys who 167 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: were both on the franchise tag, sak one's got a 168 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: chance for it to happen. I don't take it too 169 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: seriously that he could miss regular season time, but it 170 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: might be one where he doesn't sign until, you know, 171 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: ten days before the season. Compared that to Jacobs, who 172 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: sent like a cryptic tweet this week. It was who said, 173 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: sometimes it's not about you. We got to do it 174 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: for the ones after us, And I don't think Josh 175 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: McDaniels is interested at all and giving the long term 176 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: contract so that that could get more contentious. 177 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, and there's you know, the only real example we 178 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: have recently of doing it for the next wave for 179 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: running backs was Leveon Bell and that not only didn't 180 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: work and fell on its flat on its face, it 181 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: essentially ended Leveon Bell's career to something as well. So 182 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: I think part of Saquon Barkley was, if you read 183 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: some of the beef, got that. 184 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: Jets of money. He got that Jets money. I mean, 185 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: not as much money as he would have had if 186 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: he had. 187 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: Well he did, but that he did. 188 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: But I don't think it changed the way that we 189 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: feel about paying running backs, like you know, climate wise, 190 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: and I think Saquon cares absolutely a ton about his 191 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: own legacy, his own career, and sitting out like is 192 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: not going to suddenly trigger a big money deal for 193 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: him an offseason from now, I think you start to 194 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: fade from the radar and possibly be replaced on your 195 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: own team this season. So I think he'll be there, 196 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: but it could it could probably annoy us deep in 197 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: the training camp. 198 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope his agent isn't filling Saquon's head 199 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: with too much talk about sitting out, because I think, yeah, 200 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: I think Le'Veon Bell is the ultimate cautionary tail there 201 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: because he did get some money for the Jets, but 202 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: and certainly not as much as the original deal entailed, 203 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: but when he came back after missing a year of 204 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: his prime, he was not close to the same player 205 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: because he was so desperate to get high market money, 206 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: which is his right, he had to take the bag 207 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: from a Jets team that was, at that point in 208 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the NFL sphere was, you know, at basically the bottom 209 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: of the pile for teams you'd want to go to 210 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: with Adam Gase running the show over there, and then 211 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: it went. It was a disaster. So Barkley, don't put 212 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: yourself in that situation. And I like watching him play. 213 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: In fact, let's put a pin in Saquon and his 214 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: situation for the time being. We'll get to it a 215 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: little bit more in a bit. DeAndre Hopkins great wide receiver. 216 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: He's a free agent after the Cardinals parted ways with 217 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: the All Pro a couple weeks back. He visited with 218 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: the Titans last week. Rap Sheet reported earlier this morning 219 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: it was a quote very positive visit. He is now 220 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: scheduled to visit with the Patriots on Wednesday and Thursday. 221 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, before that Ian Reporting, was asked about Nuke 222 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: and the Pats and all that, and here's what he 223 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: had to say. 224 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 5: So I'm not really a travel agent here. I'm not 225 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 5: gonna say it's gonna happen here, not gonna happen. There's 226 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: a lot of there's stuff going on that I'm not 227 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 5: directly involved in it, So I'm not going to say anything. 228 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 5: And then, you know, you turn around and said that 229 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 5: I misled you in some way, because that's not what 230 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do. 231 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Here's the follow up question. Always good when somebody follows 232 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: up on a line of questioning that Belichick doesn't really 233 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: want to get into. 234 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: What would he bring to the table. 235 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to talk about players that aren't 236 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: on the team. You know, that's just throw it out there. Okay, 237 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 5: put that line in the water. 238 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: Building good spirits. Uh yeah, Mark you have. He could 239 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: he could talk about Nuke because he's not connected to 240 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: any team right now. But I guess Belichick was saying 241 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: that's just not his style. He's not going to talk 242 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: about a player who's not assigned to the dotted line. 243 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't. 244 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: And there's still teams hanging out there in the midst 245 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: that have interest in new Hopkins, that you Ves and 246 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: Bills if they can sort out their money situation. I 247 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: think Cleveland has been talked about as a real target 248 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: and Tennessee. I think it's interesting, is like, we have 249 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: a player that actually went on this podcast not hours 250 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: a different one and listed the quarterbacks that he wanted 251 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: to play with. And you thought, well, back at the 252 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: time when maybe everyone's going to line up and try 253 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: to make it happen, and it seems instead like it's 254 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: going to be a bit of a longer process where 255 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: he's going to want to get paid as much as 256 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: he can. And Mike Reese, who does a great job 257 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: covering the Patriots, said that he thought maybe New England's 258 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: looking like a one year deal that's kind of more 259 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: like the Odell Beckham won to some degree. So I 260 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: do find one thing, you know, who knows. 261 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,239 Speaker 4: Where we are like interpersonally. 262 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: But the idea that new Hopkins gets reunited with Bill 263 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: O'Brien intrigues me in a weird way. 264 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: It's very similar to me to Darius Slay is on 265 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: this Eagles team with Matt Patricia, which is awkward. He said. 266 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: It's like he said, their relationship now is cordial after 267 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Slagh basically slammed him on his way out of Detroit 268 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: and then Philadelphia hired but such as a defensive assistance. 269 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: The fact that Nuke is willing to go to that 270 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: meeting suggests he'd get over it. Everyone loves them selves 271 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: some Bill O'Brien in Foxborough like, he's a different Bill 272 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: O'Brien in Foxborough. He's at the end of the bar. 273 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: He doesn't have the pressure of being the head coach. 274 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: He's just like a regular Boston. 275 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Guy in other in other Oh, last point I have 276 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: on that, Hey, New England, don't let him out of 277 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: the building. You have him for a two day visit. 278 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Everybody knows that the AFC East is extremely competitive. Give 279 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: yourselves a puncher's chance in that division this year. Get 280 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: people talking about you as anything other than the team 281 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: most likely to finish in last place. You had Nuke 282 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: in there. All of a sudden, you had a little 283 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: energy and hope, not just to the fan base but 284 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: inside that building. GREGI, it makes too much sense for 285 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: your boys. 286 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: I love it. I think this wide receiver group is 287 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: gonna be better than people think this year because I 288 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: think Kendrick Bourne will be better. He sounds a little 289 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: like motivated, it's like deeper, but they don't really have 290 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: a difference. Maker and I don't know if Nuke is 291 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: that guy, but I think it's a spot where they 292 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: would know how to serve what he does well. Belichick 293 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: is good at just like ignoring the stuff you don't 294 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: do well, focus on what you do do well. Mac 295 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: Jones not really like a deep ball thrower, but I 296 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: could see it working. 297 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Let's stay in the AFC East where the Buffalo Bills. 298 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: I have them number one on my urgency scale. GREGI 299 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: has them in the top three. I believe that article 300 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: will be going up early next week. By the way, 301 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: for the people that have been refreshing NFL dot com 302 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: repeatedly this week, just know that I will be turning 303 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: it in to Features editor Ali Ben Purriy. Isn't it 304 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: funny how often Ali comes up on the show and 305 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: he just has no idea, Like he wouldn't know. I 306 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: don't think people are hitting him up that he's being 307 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: referenced so regularly on this program. And I don't think 308 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: he's a regular listener, Mark. He's just coming up probably 309 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis on you know, pretty sizably, you know, 310 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: in terms of metrics football podcast. 311 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he is a very busy individual, a professional. 312 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: But I would imagine that even if someone were to 313 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: come up and sort of tap Ali on the shoulder 314 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: and say, hey, you were mentioned in this podcast from yesterday, 315 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: you might want to check it out. 316 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: I don't. 317 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that would compel him to press play 318 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: on any level. 319 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: That's just my guess. 320 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: That's hard. He's got to be on Twitter, though, I don't. 321 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: I think I follow Ali in Twitter, not too active, 322 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: but look look for him. I'll e bon PORI our 323 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: listeners and be friendly about it, just say hey, the 324 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: Around the NFL podcast says hello and really respects all 325 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: the work you do. 326 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: And I have a phone call with Ali later this week, 327 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: so I'm going to let you guys know if anything 328 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: comes with this anyway. So the reason why the Bills 329 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: do have urgency to get it done this year, to 330 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: get over the hump, to get back to their first 331 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl in what twenty five plus years, and you 332 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: need stuff on Diggs along for the ride. And it'd 333 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: be better better if Stefan Diggs is in a good 334 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: place right now. It doesn't seem like he's in a 335 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: very good place with his team. In fact, Bill's coach 336 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott told reporters that Diggs is not at mandatory 337 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: mini camp this week, and it's not it's not great, Bob. 338 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, Steph is not here. Everybody else is here at 339 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 7: the current time. 340 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: Oh. 341 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 7: Very concerned, Yeah, very concerned. I'm not going to get 342 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 7: into and listen, I respect everyone's everyone's questions and what 343 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 7: they want to know about our team. Right now, I'm 344 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 7: just I'm not going to get into into that anymore. 345 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 7: So we'll talk about practice. Happy to do that, Happy 346 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 7: to answer those questions, and we'll move forward from there. 347 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a leading question by the 348 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: reporter said, how concerned are you? But I thought it 349 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: was notable, Greggy, that McDermott would say very concerned that 350 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: he's not at this June practice. It makes me wonder 351 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: if this thing is the schism is a little deeper 352 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: than the public knows. 353 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: I am totally with you. Hearing that in context was good. 354 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: It does change how I feel about it a little bit, 355 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: because I was thinking maybe McDermott's saying very concerned because 356 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: he's in a tough spot where if he says he's 357 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: not concerned, it's not a big deal. That's sort of 358 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: not taking whatever Diggs's problem seriously, and I think he 359 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: knows Stefan Diggs well enough that he wants to show 360 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: whatever respect he can out of this process, and so 361 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: I think he was answering. Honestly, I don't think he's 362 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 2: trying to make a move, but very concerned. Is very concerned. 363 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: I don't think I Sean McDermott as a guy who 364 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: is trying to mislead the public, and so I think 365 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: he is very concerned that there might be something more 366 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: long term here well. 367 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: And I just have to assume that we're getting those 368 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: few words from him, and I think he's one of 369 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: the coaches that will just be up up front with 370 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: the stuff and I like him for that reason. But 371 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: like he knows the environment, he knows what's been going 372 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: on with Stepan Diggs all offseason, and the drum beat 373 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: is some strange tweets that I mean, maybe you read 374 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: nothing into in a complete and total absence from team 375 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: activities that now is mind into scenario where this is 376 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: the most most desperate team in the AFC to get 377 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, a team that needs less distraction 378 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 3: than anyone else, and literally the pivotal star player in 379 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: your passing game is refusing to show up and probably 380 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: seems pretty serious about not showing up until he gets 381 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: what he wants. And they didn't do a whole lot 382 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: to add depth to that whiteout group. I mean, it's 383 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: like you lose digs and that group starts to fall apart. 384 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: But it's not money, which is the It's rare that 385 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like it's about money. He just signed 386 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: an extension last offseason, which was a big one, so 387 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's about money. It really seems like 388 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: he's just like frustrated they keep losing. I don't know, 389 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: or there's more going on than we really see. 390 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: I think it always goes back to the money. Gregy. 391 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know he's frustrated, and he's a he's 392 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: a guy that wears his emotions on his sleeve. But 393 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: there's got to be something in his business arrangement that 394 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: he's not thrilled with. You would think he. 395 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: Got He had a twenty one point five million dollars 396 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: signing bonus just last eight pat his coin. 397 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 3: But Greg, my question, maybe what does he want? What 398 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: is what needs to happen for him to If it's 399 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: not a money thing, it's like, what are you wanting 400 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: like a public show of affection uh from the team 401 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: and team brass. I don't know how that would play 402 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: out either. 403 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: Is he unhappy that Josh Allen is on the cover 404 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: of Madden this year? Is that what this is all about? 405 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: I think they get it. Is funny when Alan's asked 406 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: about it and he's just like, well, you know, that's 407 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: that's Stefan. You know he's he's competitive, he's a little 408 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: he was saying it in a good way. I think, 409 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: like that's why he is such a great player. But 410 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: more than any holdout, if we wanted to call this 411 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: a holdout, I guess he is missing mandatory work. In 412 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: recent memory, it really does seem to be like he 413 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: was just pissed they lose. Like since they lost, he's 414 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: just been grumbling that he's not happy about the Bills. 415 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: Maybe it's about the offensive coordinator. There was a new one, 416 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey last year, Like maybe, I mean, he had 417 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: huge numbers, so it's hard to figure. 418 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: There was there were moments, I would say, if you 419 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: look through their season where he had some down games 420 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: or was quiet, or maybe wasn't as active in the 421 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: game plan, or wasn't his targeted as much. I'd like 422 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: to check that out, Big Randy behind the virtual glass, 423 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: if you could check out his targets twenty one, twenty 424 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: one verse twenty two, that would. 425 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: Be I got it right here. They were basically the same. 426 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: They were huge in twenty twenty one to twenty seven 427 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: targets or one sixty six targets, but basically the same 428 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: one sixty four, one fifty four. But they I think 429 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: he sat out the last week because they didn't need 430 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: to win, or it can't sattle down to ten targets 431 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: right right? 432 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: What did he have in twenty twenty now they. 433 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: Got I was wrong. I was looking at the receptions. 434 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 2: They were more efficient than but the targets were basically 435 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: the same one sixty six one sixty four, and then 436 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: he missed the game last year. One fifty four got it. 437 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: Let's stay in the AFC East Aaron Rodgers. One of 438 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: my favorite lines in arguably the best sitcom of all 439 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: time Arrested Development, when George Booth is in prison and 440 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: his son Michael is visiting him, and George has made 441 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: friends in prison, and it's very comfortable lifestyle. He's eating 442 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: an ice cream sandwich and Michael says to his father, Dad, 443 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: you're doing time, and Booth goes, Michael, I'm having the 444 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: time of my life. That's Aaron Rodgers. 445 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 8: You know, it's a lot of fun. Actually, the last 446 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 8: six weeks have been about the most fun I've had 447 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 8: in a while. So it's fun to come to work 448 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 8: and be excited about what we're doing. We've got a 449 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 8: great quarterback room to be able to work with Todd 450 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 8: Downing and Rob and Hacks in there all the time. 451 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 8: And you know, we get some other randoms coming to 452 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 8: sit in the room, which is nice too. Put to 453 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 8: work with Zach and Tim and Chris has been a 454 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 8: lot of fun. 455 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, let's call this what it is. Rogers is enjoying, yes, 456 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: both presenting a highly functional, healthy relationship with his new team, 457 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: but also a little twist of the knife to the 458 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: packer is that I loved this off season program. I 459 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: love being having perfect attendance and what a great vibe 460 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: it is here maybe not so much over there. 461 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: Well, there always is a double pronged approach to anything 462 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: he says, and it right now it is that dichotomy 463 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: of like, yes, this is a bit of a dig 464 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: at Green Bay. The thing though, because like I've probably 465 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: been is down on the Rogers off season charade the 466 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: past couple of years is as much as well as anyone, 467 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: And like since that press conference, I do see a 468 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: guy who feels like there's new energy. He seems excited, 469 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: he's going he's hanging out with his teammates a bunch 470 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: where he always seems to a little bit of a 471 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: lone wolf to me in Green Bay towards the latter 472 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: part of all that. 473 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: So I buy it. 474 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: I mean it's I think also things change in that 475 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: wit that schedule they have, they start one and four, 476 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: but I don't think they're going to I think there's 477 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: something about a new version, a better version of Aaron 478 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: Rodgers when we got last year. 479 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: I'm buying in, maybe to a fool's degree. 480 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: As a as a Jets fan, this was the best 481 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: case scenario other than he had the minor cash, but 482 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: he was practicing by the end of the OTA's like 483 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: in the mini camps, like this is what you wanted. 484 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: You did not you would have My radar would have 485 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: been up if after all that drama throughout the offseason. 486 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: He then does the I'm working out on my own 487 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: in California move like you couldn't ask for a better 488 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: setup to how this goes where it goes from here. Well, 489 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: it's about to get real sooner than later once we 490 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: get to the fall. But so far it's so good. 491 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: It makes total sense that an all time great at 492 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: whatever field they're in is going to feel a new 493 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: motivation after maybe things started getting stale in your job. 494 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: You've reached the highest of highs with Green Bay, and like, now, 495 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: not that you're trying harder, but yeah, you're probably trying harder, 496 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: Like you are extra motivated to make it all work. 497 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: And it's nice to just be somewhere else, and it's 498 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: nice to be in New York City going to the 499 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: next games and going to uh, you know, boy Genius 500 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: or wherever the hell he's going to tailors went to. 501 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: Then, I mean of the Tonys. 502 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: That was a little about Wait, I thought we were 503 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: burying the lead though. Who are the Randoms in their 504 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: offensive meeting? That was like an Aaron Rodgers quiet shot. 505 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: There are some people, some random some coach on the 506 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: Jets is like, am I one of the Randoms? 507 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: Who Who's I assumed it Zach Wilson. Oh well, he 508 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: mentioned Zach. Yeah, that's a good question. That's a good question. Uh. 509 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: Finally in the news. You know, we love the media beat, 510 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: and this one is personal on two levels because mark Ingram, 511 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: formerly of NFL Media, also formerly of the Saints and 512 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: other NFL teams a legend at USC There's billboards all 513 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: over the city right now. People might find this really weird, 514 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: but it's a kind of a weird sports down Los Angeles. 515 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: Somebody's buying a bunch of billboards across the Southland and 516 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: and it says, give Reggie Bush his heisman back. It's like, 517 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: I kind of agree, just like, who's doing this, Who's 518 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: spending this money? What's happening right now? 519 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 2: They're everywhere too. I I want to follow, like the 520 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: dark money that is somehow supplying this, Like is Reggie 521 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: Bush ultimately connected to this? 522 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: I don't know is the heisman because I know that 523 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: Reggie had the heisman for a while and then he 524 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: had to give it back a few years ago. Is 525 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: this something I could be purchased? Because couldn't we just 526 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: take the billboard money, uh this this these dark forces 527 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: and and purchase the heisman and then give it to 528 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: Reggie and maybe you can get some tequila shots out 529 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: of it. 530 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: I don't think. 531 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's out on Thanksgiving Eve. 532 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: I think I think it's gone the the at that 533 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: actual heisman. But I think the idea now is like, look, 534 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 2: Reggie Bush was just doing some small scale gift taking 535 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: that now is legal. Uh if you're in the NCAA. Anyways, 536 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 2: give the man his respect, our former co worker. I 537 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: know he really remembers us incredibly well as like that guy. Oh, yeah, 538 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: that guy, and then and then yeah, the other guy. 539 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys. Oh is that my chauffeur I get 540 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Reggie is looking like he's out at 541 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: Fox now a contract squabble. He wants more money, and 542 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Fox is like, well, I don't want to give you 543 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: that much more money. And bad news for reg because 544 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: Fox is of course. It's from Andrew Marshawn, our boy 545 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: from the New York Post whose brother listens to this show. 546 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: All these connections, all these red strings anyway, and guess 547 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: who they have locked and loaded. According to Marshawn, it's 548 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: mark Ingram Mark Sessler's friend from Germany or Greece, I 549 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: don't remember, who would hypothetically retire from the NFL after 550 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: thirteen seasons and joined Fox. And we know Sizzler that 551 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: Ingram would do a great job in that phase of 552 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: his career. 553 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's already proven. 554 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 3: I mean, whether you spent time with him in a 555 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: locker room as a teammate or coach, off the charts 556 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: on that level. He's done a ton of podcast work 557 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: and TV work, like it was Italy and Germany. I 558 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: think you know that, but I'll I'll let you know, 559 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: but I would just say that, like there the trip 560 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: was very like tight knit because we're just traveling around 561 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: on buss, had no choice but to get to know 562 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: people's personalities, and like he's just got this gift of engagement. 563 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he's just bizarrely funny. Uh he he would 564 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: go in to do these like one man skits for 565 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: you know, ten twenty minutes at a time, staying in character. 566 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: So I don't I just more want to see what 567 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: we'll get out of him on a on that kind 568 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: of platform, because it might be too it might be 569 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: not zany enough for him. I'm want to see him 570 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: really be what the guy that I witnessed in those 571 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: German countries. 572 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: Mark Wood, Right, Because when you think that crew. It's 573 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 2: like I think is that urban Meyer is on that 574 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 2: and Liner and Bush was on that. Yeah, vany is 575 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: maybe not the word. I I don't want to go 576 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: back to the whole marajh thing from before. And you know, 577 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: because we are great friends. But the bond, the bond 578 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: mark that you built with mark Ingram and Rex Ryan 579 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: and some defensive tackle on like the Panthers would like prime, 580 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: is it more of an unbreakable bond, like if you 581 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: could only save one of us falling off a boat, 582 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Like are you going mark with a kay? 583 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: The way I'd answer that is you know that we 584 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: were all on text threads together and so during the 585 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: trip people needed information, uh, and so there was was 586 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: a vibrant level of communication. Then about ten days after 587 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: we got back and there was some photos being sent 588 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: in a text or two I think it was Marking 589 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: and they said, Okay, well now we're not going to 590 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: be using this thread anymore, but we've moved on to 591 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: a new phase of the friendship and the trip hangout. 592 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: It's just like I think that kind of was maybe 593 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: aimed at me to some degree, along with the other 594 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: regular Joe's on the thread, so. 595 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: He didn't use I'm on the boat. 596 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: I'm on the boat. 597 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: He No, he did say something like that where it 598 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: was like, we're you know, this phase of our communication 599 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: is now shifting. 600 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: It was clear that shift was into nothingness, correct into 601 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: a total abyss. 602 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: Well, you've seen him here and there and and and 603 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: exchange pleasantries, so I've I think I feel like he's 604 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: seen that in person, so that's not. 605 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kidding a little bit. 606 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: He didn't have to do that, though, he could have 607 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: just let it fade away naturally. He didn't have to 608 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: make an announcement that this we are no longer on 609 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: speaking or texting terms. 610 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: Wasn't it kind of decisive though, Like, there's no there's 611 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: no way to not know exactly where he's coming from 612 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: on this. 613 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: He could remove himself from the conversation at maybe maybe 614 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: iPhones weren't able to do that back then. Wait, I 615 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: do want to hit on one thing with Reggie Bush 616 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: because I think it's something I've seen, we've seen at 617 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: NFL network. Unless you have a lot more mark ingram 618 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: thoughts here, he he is making a mistake. I feel 619 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: like a lot of ex athletes who are aren't as 620 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: good being broadcasters as they were as being players. Like 621 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: there's difference makers in terms of broadcasters, and then there's 622 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: like guys that are there because they were big names 623 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: or because they're good looking, and there's like a sliding 624 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: scale and like the smaller your name and maybe the 625 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: smaller like how good looking you are, like the better 626 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: you have to be. And like Reggie Bush is, you know, 627 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: as famous as he gets, and he's pushing for more money. 628 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: And we've seen this at our network sometimes. I think 629 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: sometimes some of the guys who who push for more money, 630 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: it's like the other side is like, actually, like you're 631 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: not like our leading running back, you're not our leading 632 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: star here, and you're not making that money back that easily. 633 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: If you're just kind of go away. 634 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Right, it's fair. I mean, people aren't. The ratings for 635 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: the football games are not going to go down because 636 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: mark Ingram has replaced Reggie Bush, even though Reggie Bush 637 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: is way more famous. So be careful. Really good business 638 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: advice from Greg Rosenthal. Let's take a break, all right, 639 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: we are back, and uh, love love, love love. How 640 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: important it is in society to share your feelings because 641 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: mark uh, if you don't share your feelings for the 642 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: people you love. It's like a bank account, and if 643 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: you don't make those love deposits, eventually that bank account 644 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: will run dry. Was that apt? 645 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 646 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 3: I think we've all learned the hard way on that 647 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: front in our youth in years since. So I'd agree 648 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: with you. You've got to You've got to put the work. 649 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: In a weird day, Yes, I I believe that, Greg. 650 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: How about you? Uh, the bank account of love? Was 651 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: that apt? 652 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: I think it was fantastic. I'm always trying to make deposits. 653 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: They sometimes get rejected, you, very often they are rejected. 654 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: All right, So what we're gonna do here is we're 655 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna share. We're going to share our feelings. This is 656 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: actually a safe space. So we don't want any pushback 657 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: from the public at large one way or the other 658 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: on this because we're just opening up our heart and 659 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: letting people know how we feel. I'll get it going 660 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: because I think mine is more universal. My first one 661 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: in terms of you know what, I'll save that one. 662 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: I'll start with somebody that we discussed earlier. I want 663 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: to talk about Barkley. This is my love letter to 664 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. It's not your fault. You've It's not your fault. 665 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: You've done everything this team could have ever asked of you. 666 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: A local boy kid from the Bronx. They made you 667 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: a number two overall pick, and you immediately played at 668 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: an elite level. That justified what was seen as an 669 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: unorthodox decision. Why was it unorthodox because remember, running backs 670 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: aren't special. They are a replaceable commodity. They get old fast. 671 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: That's why that's what they say. Right. You tore your 672 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: ACL in twenty twenty, you worked your way back, you 673 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: got a real coaching staff around you, and in twenty 674 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: twenty two you finished first Team All Pro. That's the 675 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: second time, by the way, you've gotten that honor in 676 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: four full seasons. I don't think you'll get old fast, 677 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: say Quads. In fact, barring a Giants run to the 678 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you'll still be twenty six years old at 679 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: the end of the season when it ends. Is twenty 680 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: six old? Mark? Is it old? 681 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 4: It does not feel old to me. 682 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: You've played four full NFL seasons and her first team 683 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: All Pro in half of them, a Rookie of the 684 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Year award third place and Comeback Player of the Year 685 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: of voting last year should have beaten Gino, men of 686 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: the community, great smile, state school education. I love you, 687 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. I love how you play, and so do 688 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: the hard working denizens of northern New Jersey in the 689 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: greater Tri State area. This guy right here, he's one 690 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: of us. Back after this, I believe your current contract 691 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: situation will represent the tipping point when it became clear 692 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: that anti running back sentiment has gone too far. You 693 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: are the perfect test case, Saquon, a superstar running back 694 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: in your prime who carried your offense through thick and thin. 695 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: And when last year's stunning run to the playoffs concluded 696 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: for the Giants, it was the pedestrian quarterback that Eli 697 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: Manning cos player who got the massive new contract. Wow, 698 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: where's my music? Thank you? It's not your fault, Saquon. 699 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and you know that that Mannikin's 700 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: success was largely predicated on your very presence on the field. 701 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: To take what you achieved over sixteen games of all 702 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: pro greatness, then see it used a successful leverage for 703 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: that stone faced jimoke from Duke that non human. Okay, 704 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: this is too far. Maybe sitting out of season then 705 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: watching the carnage wrought by asking, said Mannikin, to efficiently 706 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: run an offense without you. Yes, that would show them, 707 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: but don't do it. We deserve to see you the beauty, 708 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: the greatness that you give us every Sunday, but it's 709 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: good to make them think about that worst case scenario. 710 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: You are loved by people who understand what football is 711 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: all about, especially big blue football, Benny and Hackensack, Doris 712 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: and Rigo park mic in Upper Saddle River. And yes, 713 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Danny from Rockland County, we are your people and we 714 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: will lift you up in the way you deserve. Sincerely, 715 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: Danny from Rocklin County. 716 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: Wow. 717 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 3: Uh, what a start here, And I mean Dan, I 718 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: know you were suggesting that his agent shouldn't take him 719 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: down a dark road and take his career off track 720 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: in a misguided fashion. I would just cut off everything 721 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 3: that you've created right there. I Hi were that agent 722 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: and basically just ship it in a zoom meeting to 723 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 3: everyone involved in the Giants in the Saquon Barkley decision 724 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: making process. 725 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 4: You nailed it. 726 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 2: I agree, like, no, let's get let's give Dan. Let's 727 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: get Dan from Rockland a little cut. It should be 728 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: a bigger cut, though. There must be something annoying if 729 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: your Sako and Barkley and you just are fully in 730 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: the knowledge that you are better at football than Daniel Jones. 731 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones got ninety two million dollars guaranteed over 732 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: a two year contract and you're just hoping to squeeze 733 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: it from like twelve and a half to fourteen. So 734 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he would mind Danny from Rockland taking 735 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: these shots from to Danny Duks. He's too good hemate 736 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: to do that. But he's he's fine if Danny from 737 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: Rockland doesn't for him. 738 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: That's the other thing, like we heard from earlier in 739 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: the show, from the charity event in Jersey City, he 740 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: is a upstanding citizen, a good dude, a good teammate. 741 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: Like it would have been very easy as soon as 742 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: Jones got that frankly somewhat absurd contract and taking his 743 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: all giants off a social media and made this about 744 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: look what you gave the quarterback but not me. But 745 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: he is trying to play this in a different way, 746 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it will help him not 747 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: hitting the nuclear red button. But I respect him for 748 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: trying to think of the team and Daniel Jones first, 749 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: because it's not his fault either that that's the way 750 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: the system is rigged. It's just rigged against people that 751 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: play Saquon's position. 752 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 3: And the one thing he has got going for him too, 753 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 3: is because it's not a what would they look like 754 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 3: without Saquon Barkley because through the injuries and we've seen 755 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: a lot of test case examples of there being no 756 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: Saque in that offense, and Danny Dimes is not the 757 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: same player. I mean last year was was what you've 758 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: been waiting for from the Giants as a whole, and 759 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: like to pull saque I think they've got to realize 760 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 3: that would be a semi disaster. 761 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: There is something funny about this whole thing to me, though, 762 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 2: because I think he's gonna get that contract. 763 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: We'll see. 764 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: It's hard to guess, but that it's such a Dave 765 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: Gettlelman team that it's all those picks he got killed 766 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones and you took Saquon too high. I mean, 767 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: Leonard Williams was a guy he signed, not that people 768 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: were getting on him, but that's a Gettleman signing. Andrew 769 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: Thomas was his draft pick, like Dexter Lawrence was his 770 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: draft pick. These are who they're building around, and Joe 771 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: Shane's done a good job since they got there. It's 772 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 2: not shaneon Daviles fault, but it's a little bit of 773 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: a gettleman, you know, on the come up? 774 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: All right, Greg, you're up? Okay? 775 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: I don't know which one to go. This is actually 776 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: a poem. I didn't write it. It's on Reddit. It's 777 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: on Reddit. From Herbert gal ten ten. 778 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: Here it goes, really putting in the work. 779 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: Music's really thrown me off here, flowing hair, blowing leads, 780 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: powder blues, smoking trees, third and long dime after dime. 781 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: But why those runs on second and nine? Shots down 782 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: the field that don't seem real? That one to giton 783 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: made me squeal. So hard to sack, so hard to pick. 784 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 2: You don't make mistakes, you make to a fan sick. 785 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: No Joe Lombardi, No Anthony Lynn. Keep blaming the coaches 786 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: if we don't win. Save us from twenty seven to 787 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: nothing and Marlon McCree from Kating, from Steve Young, from 788 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 2: Ed Hocy Lee Lightning fast reads, Lightning fast through the sky, 789 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: a bolt through the heart. Never say die. The city 790 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: we live in, the City of Angels, lonely as I 791 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: am together, we cry. 792 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 1: Wow gorgeous? Yeah? 793 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 4: Wait, Greg who wrote that? Who wrote that? 794 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: Like that writer Herbert gal ten ten On, you know 795 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: the Justin Herbert read Podcaah, you might not be able 796 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: to find it. It's really deep down you have to 797 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: really know what you're looking for here. 798 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Guiden was that was he taking some fire in 799 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: that was like basically even Jalen Guiden can make plays. 800 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 2: No, it was a very specific one that I have 801 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,959 Speaker 2: also remember well, me and Herbert gal ten ten Yeah, 802 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: have some similarities that one against the Giants, you know 803 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 2: at the I think it was the twenty twenty one season. 804 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: It was like the throw of the year at home 805 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 2: early December. 806 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: So did you slide into Herbert Gal's DM so to 807 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: let her know you'd be using her? 808 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: No, I thought you'd be fine. 809 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: Pros Yeah, I thine is she in that house right now? 810 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: That rental home? 811 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: It's an agreement, it's an arrangement. Just if those deposits 812 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: are getting rejected, it's just like a solution that everyone wins. 813 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really happy. Let me just say, I am 814 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: so happy that Justin Herbert is not on the Miami Dolphins. 815 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: I think the entire NFL should be very happy. That's 816 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: not the fact. And you could take that as to 817 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: a shade if you will, But even Dolphins fans in 818 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: their you know, heart of hearts, will acknowledge if you 819 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: took that offense with that play caller and put Herbert 820 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: in there and what he can do and his ability 821 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: to stay on the field, they could run that division 822 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: for a decade. So we'll see what he does in 823 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: the long term and in Los Angeles, if there's a 824 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: long term in Los Angeles. They haven't gotten that deal 825 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: done yet. I think they'll find a way. But to 826 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers, they're known to be cheap. 827 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 3: They are, but that would be about as big of 828 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 3: an organizational calamity as you could stir up in their 829 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 3: literal team history. 830 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Tonight, they just lost twenty seven blew a twenty seven 831 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: nothing lead in the playoffs, so they have the capacity 832 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: to stun. 833 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 2: It is part of the poem, the twenty seven nothing. Really, 834 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: Chargers fans will will know what I'm talking about there, 835 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: Marlon McCree, that was what Herbert gal ten ten is 836 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: talking about. I did the research after I saw the 837 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 2: poem to find out Marlon McCree, the guy that fumbled 838 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 2: when they intercepted Brady in the divisional round of two 839 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: thousand and six ed hockey lely part of a famous 840 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: call that switched another playoff game. Just the details are 841 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: are amazing. And her I think Herbert is a guy 842 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: who I just think inspires poetry. I think that's the 843 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: only way you can even write a letter to him. 844 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 2: His play is just so beautiful. It's like art. 845 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: Very nice, Greg, very nice. And I hope you signed 846 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: that letter to Justin and just Pill for Charger Gal's work. 847 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: Don't attribute it Hebert, he works. Sorry, Herbert Gal. All right, Mark, 848 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: you're up, all right. 849 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 3: This is a letter to the Atlanta Falcons, but from 850 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 3: me if I were still like a student obsessed with 851 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 3: football in like a some sort of mythical academic setting 852 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 3: from the past, like back when you write letters to 853 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 3: people like this, you've caught my eye. Instead of paying 854 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: attention in algebra two, I find myself drifting away with 855 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 3: thoughts of your beauty. How did I not notice you before? 856 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 3: I don't even remember that life. Now when I open 857 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 3: my trapper Keeper, my pages are absent of equations, pie graphs, 858 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: A rise overrun, replaced instead with fantasies of you running 859 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty plus snaps out of the Maryland 860 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 3: Power Eye, switching for quarters at a time into a 861 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 3: mauling single wing outfit that crafts twenty seven play twenty 862 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 3: two minute marches that turn the run time of an 863 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 3: NFL game into a brisk walk around the park. Nobody 864 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 3: can perfect a heavy set Notre Dame Box in the 865 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 3: autumn of twenty twenty three, such as you long painful 866 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 3: minutes for the enemy, or on tap is your beautiful leader? 867 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 3: Arthur Smith unfurls one time chewing ground assault after the 868 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 3: next out of a five man flexbone set, doubling as 869 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 3: a rabid dog. I am yours. I know I'm not 870 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 3: alone with my Falcons fan in this room, but it's 871 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 3: just how they make me feel, how what I think 872 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 3: is coming our way, which is their style I've been 873 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: waiting for. 874 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: We would never mark. You've bared yourself emotionally intimately about 875 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: these Falcons here today. 876 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: So who opens that letter? It just goes to the organization. 877 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 4: That's tricky. 878 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: It's got you'd have to hope it lands in the 879 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 3: right hands. I didn't think about that. 880 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: It's very touch it's very touching and maybe before you 881 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 2: know we have any Falcons because we we don't always 882 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: know what we're going to do on this in these segments. 883 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 2: I I also have a letter going to Flowery. 884 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: Branch and let's hear it. Yeah, wow, okay, is this 885 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: from the just. 886 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 2: This You can interpret whoever this is from however you want, 887 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: but it's to Dave Bragone, offtive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons. 888 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for making that clear. It's important. 889 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 2: I hope this letter finds you well and the quote 890 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: unquote security team doesn't intercept it again like one of 891 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: those Mariota Ducks under pressure lmao. Exclamation point, question mark, 892 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: exclamation point. As you know, I've been the number one 893 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: Dave Ragone fan since your NFL Europe MVP days with 894 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: the Berlin Thunder. You revived Josh McCown's career in the 895 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: UFL as a QB coach, you scraped a thousand yards 896 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 2: out of Kendall Wright and Nate Washington. As a Titans 897 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: wide receiver coach, you helped Mitch Trubisky win an MVP award. 898 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 2: You have a lovely wife and two children, and now 899 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 2: David Goone, you are changing football as we know it 900 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: if Arthur Smith lets you well. The rest of the 901 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 2: world is obsessed with pass past pass. You're bringing it 902 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 2: back to the nineteen eighties, when men were men, when 903 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: they didn't wear anti persprint, when punting was a good play, 904 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 2: when E meant the Environmental Protection Agency. I just hope 905 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: Smith doesn't get in our way, Dave Ragone. No amount 906 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: of FedEx money can fake what you have or can 907 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 2: take away what you've built. Dave Ragone, Why don't you 908 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 2: answer my emails? Dave Ragone? Why does Arthur Smith take 909 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 2: all the credit? Dave Ragone. I get that he's handsome 910 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 2: and rich and authoritative as a Catholic school nun. But 911 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: that's why you have to follow steps C through F 912 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: of my last letter to you, and I will do 913 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: the rest. Please, Dave Ragone, don't shut me out. That 914 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: wasn't me at the T ball field? 915 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: Sorry I missed that last one. What happened at the 916 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: T ball field wasn't him? 917 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: Wasn't me? Wasn't me? 918 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I say I am. This is my favorite podcast 919 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: subplot of the upcoming season, because I also am on 920 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 1: accord that the Falcons are a little bit interesting this year, 921 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: but they still decided, you know, to sit on the 922 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: QB situation, which will make all of this null and 923 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: void come real football time. And I'm looking forward to 924 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: that playing out and having the conversations again in October. 925 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: Not if Dave Ragon can do what Greg is suggesting, 926 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 3: I think that every position group will be fine. I 927 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 3: think it's kind of let's aren't they at least building 928 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 3: an offense where your quarterback can chill out a little 929 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: bit and he's to do everything right And this isn't 930 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 3: This isn't Arthur Smith's style offense. 931 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 4: Greg, don't you agree that? 932 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 2: Well? I mean I think too I personally, and that 933 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: didn't have a anyone signing that letter just for protection. 934 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 2: But if Dave Ragone follows steps C through F from 935 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 2: the previous letter, maybe the Falcons will have something also 936 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 2: to come together as a team to come around this 937 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 2: new interim coach, Dave Dave Ragone because Arthur Smith is 938 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: indisposed for for whatever reason, and Ragon finally gets the 939 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 2: pop that he deserves. And I feel like, or at 940 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: least this this person feels Arthur Smith has really been 941 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 2: hogging this credit. 942 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean, how much was Arthur Smith. We were coming 943 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 3: right back to the see through f business in your letter. 944 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 2: It would be a problem. 945 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: How much would Ryan Tannehill really have cost this team. 946 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 1: You didn't have to start him. You didn't have to 947 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: you didn't have to give him the job. You could 948 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: have done the whole song and dance and said it's 949 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: Stsmond Ritter's job to lose, and then Ryan Tannehill could 950 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: have come in week four as he should, and then 951 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: he's your quarterback. At least it makes sense. 952 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm leaving to open my mind for that to happen. 953 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 2: I feel like we're learning, you know, with this Hopkins release. 954 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 2: Sometimes things do happen pretty late and it makes too 955 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 2: much sense. And I have an update. I know you 956 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: guys were really waiting for this. That one week we 957 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: were just gonna talk about. I was gonna look back 958 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 2: at the Desmond Ridder tape of twenty twenty two. We 959 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: would talk about the tape. We're not ready for that 960 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 2: week because. 961 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: We're it's coming. 962 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna blow it out. It's gonna be daily shows. 963 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: But I have done some of the legwork behind it, 964 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 2: and I gotta say I I don't feel any different 965 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,479 Speaker 2: about Desmond Ridder. I might feel less less excited about 966 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 2: Desmond Ridder than I was before. So let's do this. Tannehill, 967 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 2: oh really little preview, just saying it didn't it didn't. 968 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 2: I know there's some people I respect, like Nate Tice. 969 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 2: Who's who's in the Ridder camp. I'm not I'm not 970 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 2: seeing it right. 971 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: Now, all right, So let's let's move that pessimism out 972 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: and let's let's again open up our hearts and our 973 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: arms to love. And I want to share love for 974 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people here. I believe you. The guy 975 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: moving all over the place on offense, You are a 976 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: movable chess piece. The guy putting his hand in the ground, 977 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: and also the guy allowed to stand up. Yeah that's 978 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: way better to all you rookie qbs who are throwing 979 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: really far spirals. Hell yeah, I think that's newsworthy. The 980 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: guy moved to the opposite side of the line. The 981 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,919 Speaker 1: guy being moved to the interior or kicked outside. Yeah 982 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 1: you got this. King holdouts, smart play, hold ins, bring 983 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: down the machine from within, baby. The guy who said 984 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: he was one hundred percent entering training camp last year, 985 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: but is now saying this is the year he's actually 986 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: one percent healthy. I don't think you're a liar. The 987 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: quarterback who says he's learning so much in a new 988 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: backup role. Princes become kings. The kings can become princes too. 989 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: The QB who is hyper confident in a new offense install. Yeah, boy. 990 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: The Saints player who says having Derek Carr has been 991 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 1: quote amazing. Give me that juice. I'll guzzle it down too. 992 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 1: Guy who is an entirely clear on the gambling policy 993 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: and feels lucky. Vegas, Baby Vegas. I believe you, all 994 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: of you, beautiful, beautiful babies of this wonderful cosmic ballet 995 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: we call pro football, all of you. I believe hm. 996 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 2: That was touching. 997 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: I think it's a time of positivity, and I refuse 998 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: to age in anything else. 999 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: Right, some of these letters just seemed weird, frankly, not 1000 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 2: expressing love maybe as it was intended, realizing now and 1001 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: yet that that was beautiful, That was love. 1002 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 4: It just it used acceptance. 1003 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 3: You know, we're going to be doused with these comments 1004 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 3: from these players, and you can swim up stream and 1005 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 3: try to stop it, but you're accepting it, and that 1006 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 3: that is love. 1007 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 4: That's an aspect of love I love you also, I 1008 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 4: love you Also? 1009 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 2: What was that, Mark? 1010 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 4: I don't know something I said four months ago on 1011 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 4: the show. Apparently, let's hear it again. I love you. 1012 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: Also, Mark. Why don't we close out this love fest 1013 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: with one more from you? 1014 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 3: This is one that I intercepted for anyone that was 1015 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 3: listening closely. Last off season, we uh had a little 1016 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 3: bit of a look in at the life of Cole Strange. 1017 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 3: So a year later, this is an email from Patriots 1018 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 3: O lineman Cole Strange to Linda Halcion. That's the girl 1019 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 3: that he dated from tenth grade at Farragut High in 1020 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 3: Tennessee into his freshman year a chattanooguy. 1021 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 4: I don't know if you knew that that's where he 1022 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 4: went to school, But. 1023 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 2: Who's forgetting that letter? Yeah? That was great? 1024 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, right. 1025 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 3: And before Cole and Linda Halsion or pulled away by 1026 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 3: the world. Essentially, This is years later and he is 1027 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 3: slightly mythed, but he says, Dear Linda, I'm writing you 1028 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 3: from Patriots Mini caamp, where I've just sat through a 1029 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 3: seventy five minute meeting on pre snap adjustments from the 1030 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 3: Guard Center guard combo along our interior offensive line. We 1031 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 3: were never taught these concepts back when I played at 1032 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 3: Farragut High. One additional concept I wasn't taught at Farragut 1033 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 3: that you would somehow be convinced by your materialistic parents 1034 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 3: to get engaged to Leicester Wexelworth. 1035 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 4: What are we doing here? 1036 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 3: Wexelworth is a total nerd, and not in that reverse 1037 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 3: psychology emo way that some girls dig. 1038 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 4: But I get it. 1039 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 3: Hedge fun guy versus three hundred and one pound interior 1040 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 3: maler playing a game your parents don't respect. I guess 1041 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 3: you've forgotten all about our plans to visit every diner 1042 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 3: and die bar along the Tennessee stretch of Interstate forty, 1043 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 3: or eat nothing but Chinese takeout for one month just 1044 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 3: to see what happens to our intestinal systems. Or go 1045 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 3: birdwatching from atop of the old Old World worst building 1046 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 3: with a bottle of whiskey and cool range doritos. Bill 1047 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,720 Speaker 3: Belichick said to me the other day, you'll be twice 1048 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 3: the player when you learn to wipe out the past. 1049 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 4: I guess that's what I'll do. 1050 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 3: May your days be bright, Linda hause Yacht or Linda Wexelworth, whatever, yours, 1051 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 3: Cole Strange Patriots Linemen. 1052 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. You know, when he was drafted, there was a 1053 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: lot of pushback that that was a reach in the 1054 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: first round a year ago. But I think it's also 1055 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 1: when you read something like that, it's a reminder that 1056 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 1: a person's value and worth goes beyond their their splits 1057 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: or their leg press or you know whatever else. You know, 1058 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 1: there's more to it, and Cole is showing you that. 1059 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate that response because it's just like, there 1060 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 3: is this whole other side of these players that we 1061 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 3: don't we're not always aware of. 1062 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 2: No, it's tough because, like like wexel Rod, I would 1063 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 2: get it if it was like the dorky emo type, 1064 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: it's like sneaky, they're actually sneaky hot. Absolutely, It's like 1065 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 2: that Rachel girl and that where in the in the 1066 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: movie in the early two thousands she takes off the glasses, 1067 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 2: but she actually was hot a lot. There's actually a 1068 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 2: lot of guys like that. Wexel Rod's not that guy. 1069 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: He's a three. He's a three and a half, and 1070 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 2: you're ditching him for strange Strange. 1071 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe you're referring to Lady Bogs from She's 1072 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: all that the Freddy Prince Junior vehicle. Yeah, she was 1073 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: super hot and we didn't need sixpence none the richer 1074 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: or the stairwell walk to tell us otherwise. 1075 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 2: Great Rachel is the actress's name, And I should have 1076 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 2: had that ready if I was going to make such 1077 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 2: an analogy, but you nailed it. 1078 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 3: But Clark Ken and her basically, and then you know, 1079 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 3: the glasses come off and it's a super bean. 1080 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: Can we like slow down too with what was going 1081 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: on at the Daily Planet like in Metropolis, Like Clark 1082 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: Kent was smoke show broad, hot, chiseled cheekbones, great hair, 1083 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: and so he's wearing a pair of glasses and now 1084 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: it's like, not only do we not see him as Superman, 1085 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: we see him as a bumbling like fool hanger on 1086 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: in the newsroom like let's clean it up world. 1087 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1088 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, I thought he brought you know, 1089 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 3: levity to that newsroom with his sort of tripping and 1090 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 3: bumbling and falling over things, which was just showed you 1091 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 3: as a great method doctor. He that's not who he 1092 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 3: really was. 1093 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 2: And those glasses turned out to come back into fashion 1094 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 2: as like hot guy glasses and they've probably stuck there 1095 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 2: for about fifteen years. They just are the hot guy 1096 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 2: glass right now. 1097 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: If they if Superman were to come out today, Clark 1098 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: Kent wouldn't have the glasses and Superman would, right. 1099 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 2: I also love that, like Cole Strange is, and it's 1100 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 2: something special about this podcast that we have sources, we 1101 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 2: have ways to get into the cold Stranger's world. But 1102 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 2: you have to be a regular listener. Because I did 1103 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 2: Google because I remember Lil Linda Halsion was involved in 1104 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 2: the program and it was almost exactly a year ago. 1105 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 2: And if you google Cole Strange, Mark Sessler, you find 1106 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 2: a review as the top result, and it's from Reddit, 1107 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 2: and I'll read it and it says Mark's excursion into 1108 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 2: Cole Stranger's head is an all time Sessler moment. So 1109 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: I just think that's that's that's accurate, That's what that 1110 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 2: is there, it is. 1111 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 3: I guess we'll see where we are next summer with him. 1112 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: Wonderful. And that's it and that's it for today's show. 1113 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: And I think the only other thing I'll say is 1114 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: tell somebody that you love him today as we did. 1115 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: We'll be back Thursday with Connie Fox until then you 1116 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: know what to do. 1117 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 2: He the call love you guys, oh I Love you 1118 00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 2: also say