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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where every general manager starts to look.

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Speaker 2: The same after a little while.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Indianapolis Convention Center alongside

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Speaker 1: my friend fresh off the road, fresh after off of

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Speaker 1: hugging half of these general managers because you're friends with

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Speaker 1: all of them, Jordan Rodrigue of the Athletic.

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Speaker 3: That was so nice, you know what. I did appreciate, Greg,

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Speaker 3: and it's great to be here with you. One general

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Speaker 3: manager that we will get to in a moment actually

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Speaker 3: had as good of a jacket game as you did.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about James glads let's talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I was able to meet this young man. You knew

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Speaker 1: him already. He's going to be on the show. Young man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is a young man to me. He's

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Speaker 1: much younger than me, and he looks young even for

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Speaker 1: his age.

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Speaker 2: How did we describe him?

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Speaker 1: Kind of like a beachy vibe, but with a little

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Speaker 1: Patrick Bateman, you know, mixed in there.

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Speaker 3: It's a compliment in a good way, because I think

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Speaker 3: that a lot of people are starting to learn about James.

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Speaker 4: He's a bit of a killer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So James Gladstone is the new general manager of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: He's joining the show today.

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Speaker 1: John Spytek, the new general manager of the Raiders, talked

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Speaker 1: about the quarterback situation there, talked about how my friend,

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Speaker 1: my personal trainer, wants it fixed. And so those are

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Speaker 1: two interviews we're going to get to later in the show.

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Speaker 1: We tape some other interviews as well that we're going

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Speaker 1: to be playing throughout the week. I'm really excited for

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Speaker 1: everyone to listen to that. But I want to work

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Speaker 1: backwards here. We actually started today's show, and this is

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Speaker 1: the day. Just to set the scene, Tuesday at the

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Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine now has evolved into the day where

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Speaker 1: most general managers and coaches speak. Yes, there's still a

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Speaker 1: couple stragglers who are going up late even as we're taping,

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Speaker 1: but we got to do a show. About forty five

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Speaker 1: of them spoke on Tuesday day. A handful we'll speak

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday as well. So this show is partly going

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Speaker 1: to be about what we learned from all the press conferences.

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Speaker 1: And I decided before the day even started. I just

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Speaker 1: wrote a number. The show is going to be called

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Speaker 1: forty seven things we learned from these press conferences, and

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Speaker 1: then worked backwards from there. So we just tried to

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Speaker 1: learn forty seven things and then we stopped learning.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen more digits than James Gladstone has years.

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Speaker 1: There you go, uh and it worked, blows. It was

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Speaker 1: kind of amazing. We almost naturally right got it down

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Speaker 1: to forty seven. I had to make some editing choics we.

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Speaker 4: The Google docs.

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Speaker 2: It was basically right there. And I love this week.

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Speaker 5: Look.

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Speaker 1: I got to see one of the greatest of all time,

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Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic, have his career high and assist second most

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Speaker 1: ever for a center last night at the Pacers game.

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Speaker 2: You just walk like three blocks away.

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Speaker 1: There there's great NBA basketball for shockingly cheap prices. And

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Speaker 1: then on my way home, Drew Rosenhaus, the super agent,

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Speaker 1: just stops me and I got both earbuds in and

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Speaker 3: Was it your famous hat? No, Greg has a hat

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Speaker 3: that makes him look really famous, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, and he was Greg Greg and he and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: great job with your your one oh one. You keep

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Speaker 1: keep at it like you really know your stuff. I

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Speaker 1: was like, Wow, thank you, Drew Rosenhouse, super agent.

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Speaker 3: Did you say thank you super Drew Rosenhouse, Comma super Agent.

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Speaker 2: I wish I had.

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Speaker 4: I wish you would have. I think he would have

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Speaker 4: loved that.

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Speaker 1: I was so taken aback and was in the middle

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Speaker 1: of like my Celtics podcast that I'm listening to that

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, thank you, thank you, and then

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Speaker 1: I wish you know you think of what you should

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Speaker 1: have said after the fact. I would have liked to

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Speaker 1: hear among his climents, who did I think who did

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Speaker 2: I would have liked to hear his opinion.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I got to tell you though, he

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Speaker 3: was clearly it was a drive by compliment, which means

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Speaker 3: he was certainly not looking to engage in a deep conversation. Great,

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Speaker 3: so I actually think it went perfectly because you really

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Speaker 1: Come on, maybe he wanted to talk. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: It was outside of Saint Elmos, the famous steakhouse. I

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Speaker 1: mean if you've been to Indianapolis for the Combined Ones,

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Speaker 1: you've heard these stories before, and there is something pleasingly

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Speaker 1: familiar about it all, including all these press conferences.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: Number one on our list, Yes, forty seven things we learned.

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Speaker 1: I do think it was ultimately the most significant news

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Speaker 1: of the day. Travis Kelcey is expected to return to

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs for the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 1: Brett Veatch first broke the news at the podium, surprising,

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Speaker 1: you don't usually get big news at the podium. He

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Speaker 1: then later was on NFL Network, Let's take a list,

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Speaker 1: and this is him with Tom Pellisera.

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Speaker 6: It seems like we're gonna get good news on Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 6: Can we turn off the Twitter alerts? Can we put

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Speaker 6: it the bad as he definitely playing in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 7: I think so. I mean there's been a a lot

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Speaker 7: that's something that we as an organization haven't discussed, and

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Speaker 7: we anticipate Travis being back, and if something changes, I'm

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Speaker 7: sure NFL Network will be the first to break it, right, but.

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Speaker 3: I would hope. So, yeah, you can help with that

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Speaker 7: No, I think you know, we're excited to have Travis back,

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Speaker 7: and that's how we're operating this offseason and kind of

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm surprised I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think we were going to get to watch

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey play football again. It's interesting, I think from

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey back, but there would have been positives and

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I feel like he's made them a

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Speaker 3: They can manage it. They'll be fine. The thing that's

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Speaker 3: It was a quick decision because there was a deadline

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Speaker 3: If he went out this year, it would have been

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs finished the season. You rarely get the shiny

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Speaker 3: fairy tale ending, but I kind of think this man

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Speaker 3: does believe in fairy tales. I mean, look at his life.

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely true. This is a man who just

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Speaker 1: expects great things to.

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Speaker 4: Happen, manifests and incredible.

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Speaker 1: He's made it all happen. Yeah, sometimes it's not a

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Speaker 1: fairy tale ending. We'll have more on another tight end

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Speaker 1: in just the little bit. Number two on our list,

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Speaker 1: we gotta got. Terry Fonteau is at the podium and

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Speaker 1: quickly and aggressively said that their plan remains the same.

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Speaker 1: Michael Pennox is their starting quarterback, Kirk Cousins is their

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Speaker 2: Do you buy it?

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Speaker 3: I buy it. I'm not surprised. I was texting with

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Speaker 3: just the glowy nature of the conversation and the way

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Speaker 2: But do you buy that kirk Cousins is going to

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Speaker 2: be on the team. I don't.

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Speaker 3: Oh that part, no, I don't buy. I don't buy that.

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Speaker 3: But the Penix thing is that's real love right there.

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Speaker 3: But the rest of it, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what you say when you're trying to

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Speaker 3: drive up a trade price.

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Speaker 1: I agree, this is lying season in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Really, I would never lie to you again, it's.

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Speaker 1: Regular season, but the draft in general, especially pre pre

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Speaker 1: also said he was totally surprised that kirk Cousins had

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Speaker 3: I do love that. It's like it's a way of saying, no,

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Speaker 3: there's no way, because of course I would know about this,

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Speaker 3: so there's no way that was anything other than hedging.

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Speaker 1: If anything, that's kind of making his guy, Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: looks bad. I still believe strongly that he will be traded.

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Speaker 1: And I think what that statement is to the rest

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Speaker 2: You have to give us something.

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Speaker 1: And if the best we can do for kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: is that we're gonna pay part of his salary and

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Speaker 1: get a fifth round pick, then that's that's better than nothing,

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Speaker 1: and that's what we're aiming for. Maybe he's aiming for hire.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. I don't I do not buy that one.

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Speaker 1: All right, Points three through six. We're from Omar Khan,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers GM. He has said ownership said it, and

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Speaker 1: now he said it. They were happy with russ Anfields

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Speaker 1: and they specifically say they've talked to both representatives and

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Speaker 2: Very unique. I I don't.

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Speaker 1: Remember a free agency quarterback situation quite like that where

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Speaker 1: they're openly saying we don't want both of them back,

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Speaker 1: we do want one of them back.

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Speaker 2: And he's almost pressed, you know, leveraging the agent.

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Speaker 4: You guys pick, That's basically what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's like you guys pick about who's gonna take less.

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Speaker 3: Money, pick who's gonna yeah, who's who's taking this job?

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Speaker 3: And I just it's fascinating too.

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Speaker 2: You must have a favorite, though they have to.

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Speaker 4: It is lying season.

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Speaker 1: They did play Russell Wilson most of the year, so

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Speaker 1: that you would think that would be him, But long

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Speaker 1: term Fields makes more sense.

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Speaker 3: It is interesting. It's it to me very overtway to

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Speaker 3: drive the ultimate price down. But I do think it's

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Speaker 3: funny where he's basically like, decide.

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Speaker 4: Amongst yourself, I know, and they it's like so funny

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Speaker 1: He also, like a lot of the gms that spoke today,

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Speaker 1: said look, they want multiple ways to attack the position.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll draft someone to whether whether it's early

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Speaker 1: or not, we'll see, I said points three through six.

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Speaker 2: He said a few things. They want to get a

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Speaker 4: I think he wants to show it.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to continue to pretend that we're not on air.

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Speaker 2: My point is, no one could hear you if you're

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Speaker 1: And you know, I like that Joe Shane can laugh

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Speaker 1: That was our interview that we're crediting, but fourteen is aggregating.

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Speaker 1: This is a report I couldn't believe when I saw today.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were lying to me when you said it.

444
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Speaker 1: I saught Sears, a lammy who used to be at football.

445
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Speaker 1: Guys been around a long time, really respect him. He

446
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Speaker 1: had some sources and some reporting that Rob Gronkowski is

447
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Speaker 1: training with the plan to return to play football in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I would guess that's not something where

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Speaker 1: a signing is going to come early in the offseason.

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Speaker 5: Bud.

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Speaker 1: He did mention, and it's a Broncos reporter mentioning is

452
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Speaker 1: that you know, Gronk and Sean Payton got to know

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Speaker 1: each other a little bit on the Fox set, and

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Speaker 1: that that might be a fit. I could I could

455
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Speaker 1: kind of see that, and so we might have to

456
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Speaker 1: restart that Canton clock for Rob Gnkowski.

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Speaker 3: I could just picture how that conversation went there like

458
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Speaker 3: in the green room, like having a coffee together or

459
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Speaker 3: something like that, and he's like, yeah, bro, I could

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Speaker 3: totally still go. I could totally still go watch I'll

461
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Speaker 3: train and I'll show you watch. I could totally Sean

462
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Speaker 3: Payton going all right, bet like, let's see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean Payton, we'll get a work out. At least

464
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Speaker 1: who finds a brighter hoodie to wear each and every year?

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Speaker 1: I love that man. Had a great joke today. He's

466
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Speaker 1: not in the show, but he had a great joke.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was thanking Pete Carroll for keeping him

468
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Speaker 1: the youngest coach in the AFC West, or making him

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Speaker 1: the youngest coach in the AFC West. And you know

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Speaker 1: what's kind of sneaky about Rob Gronkowski not that old.

471
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Speaker 1: His body took a lot of beatings, but he will

472
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Speaker 1: be turning thirty six in May.

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Speaker 3: How's the liver?

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Speaker 1: That's a question that needs to be asked. But he's

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Speaker 1: much younger than Mercedes Lewis.

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Speaker 4: Who is you know, still going?

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Speaker 1: Still going? Yes, that was a surprising report. All right,

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Speaker 1: change your gears. We'll get serious here for a second.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Eric Tacosta, the general manager of the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Now, the Ravens had released a few statements

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Speaker 1: about the allegations against Justin Tucker and the multiple many

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Speaker 1: many women now over ten that have alled sexual assault misconduct,

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens hadn't addressed it publicly until Tuesday. Let's

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Speaker 1: listen to Eric DaCosta, their general manager, at the podium.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think a lot goes into that. First of all,

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Speaker 9: good question, appreciate the question. The allegations are serious, concerning

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Speaker 9: the amount of allegations are serious and concerning. I think

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Speaker 9: we're fortunate that the league is doing an investigation. We'll

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Speaker 9: wait as patiently as we can for as much information

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Speaker 9: as we can. It will make a decisions based on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the tone that DaCosta brought there and then

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Speaker 1: later that John Harbaugh also brought, made me think this

494
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Speaker 1: is just a matter of time. The allegations and investigating

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Speaker 1: all that is much more important than like his status

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens or what happens next with Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 1: But John Harbaugh also said Kicker would have been a

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Speaker 1: position we would have been looking at heavily. Anyways, Even

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Speaker 1: putting this aside, so we are looking heavily at that position.

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Speaker 1: And just from a football perspective, my takeaway was, I'd

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Speaker 1: be stunned if Justin Tucker is ever you know, in

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Speaker 1: a Ravens uniform again or an NFL uniform. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: the NFL is investigating that and and we'll see if

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Speaker 1: he gets an official suspension. They also did speak much

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Speaker 1: more about just like football matters, and so this is

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Speaker 1: zero points fifteen through seventeen.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that was fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised how optimistic Tacosta was about getting a

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Speaker 1: deal done with Ronnie Stanley. He said it in a

510
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Speaker 1: way that I've been to enough of these that I

511
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Speaker 1: don't think it was just GM's speak. It actually sounded like, oh,

512
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Speaker 1: we've made some real progress, and I think.

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Speaker 2: This is going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well. Ronnie Stanley has been very open about the fact

515
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Speaker 3: that he wants to be a Baltimore raven for life,

516
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Speaker 3: and he said that on numerous occasions this season. So

517
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Speaker 3: I really do think that this is one of those

518
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Speaker 3: where we can take what was said at the podium

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Speaker 3: and actually clock it in a serious way. Because Ronnie

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Speaker 3: Stanley's been asked about this a few times and has

521
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Speaker 3: said each time he would like to be a Raven

522
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Speaker 3: for life. I also think there's something to his tenure

523
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Speaker 3: with that strength and conditioning and medical department. They really,

524
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Speaker 3: I mean amazing to come back from everything, all the

525
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Speaker 3: things that he came back from and have a healthy

526
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Speaker 3: season and making that progress in the same building I

527
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Speaker 3: think is probably important too.

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Speaker 1: It really shows what a good organization can and do

529
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Speaker 1: and get as an advantage. I think that lesser organizations

530
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Speaker 1: cannot because they asked this man to take a pay

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Speaker 1: cut last year. This is a guy who has been

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Speaker 1: an all he did. He was forced essentially to take

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Speaker 1: a pay cut and stay. Usually that guy like Josh Sweat,

534
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Speaker 1: for instance, this year with the Eagles, He's not gonna

535
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Speaker 1: stay with the Eagles. He's gonna take the biggest contract.

536
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Speaker 1: Usually that guy goes the next year. And he's my

537
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Speaker 1: number three free agent left tackle with the Baltimore Ravens.

538
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Speaker 1: A very up and down career, but the highs are

539
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Speaker 1: really high. A lot of injuries, but it really sounds

540
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Speaker 1: like the number three guy on my list will not

541
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Speaker 1: make it a free agency.

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Speaker 3: We will see lest that Drew Rosenhaus complimented to Rosenhouse,

543
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Speaker 3: super agent.

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Speaker 1: The top one to one get a lot of pop.

545
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Speaker 1: By the way, DaCosta thought a lot of good guards.

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Speaker 1: He was very specific about what he thought the Ravens

547
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Speaker 1: need in this draft. So I always think that's interesting

548
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Speaker 1: when teams are out front with that. And he said,

549
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to find some guards that can

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Speaker 1: play for us in this draft, and it is known

551
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Speaker 1: as a pretty deep guard class. And then he thought

552
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Speaker 1: their biggest needs were actually edge and outside linebacker. Kid say,

553
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Speaker 1: I disagree, but just interesting. If you think about that roster,

554
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Speaker 1: they want someone next to Rokwan Smith. They really need

555
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Speaker 1: difference making edge more depth there. So just I thought

556
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Speaker 1: that was interesting. Points eighteen through twenty and then we're

557
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Speaker 1: going to take a quick break. Joe Hortis, the Los

558
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Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers general manager, was asked about Khalil Mack. He said,

559
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Speaker 1: and this was news to me that Khalil Mack is

560
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Speaker 1: not retiring.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that was I was gonna say, I

562
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Speaker 3: did not actually know that that was in consideration because

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Speaker 3: I just assumed Khalil Mack was just going to keep

564
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Speaker 3: chugging along.

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Speaker 2: Joe knew that. Joe Hortiz and I think he has

566
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Speaker 2: reached the point of his career.

567
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Speaker 1: He being Khalil Mack that it was not a guarantee

568
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Speaker 1: that he was going to play football against I could

569
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Speaker 1: be wrong. Maybe someone's reported this before. I've never seen that,

570
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Speaker 1: so I think Joe kind of broke that news. And

571
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Speaker 1: he also said that they are negotiating a and he

572
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Speaker 1: sounded hopeful about bringing Khalil Mack back. We'll see if

573
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Speaker 1: that happens or not. I think that that's up in

574
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Speaker 1: the air, but I think they'll they'll give it a

575
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Speaker 1: good shot. He mentioned Zion Johnson, who's a first round

576
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Speaker 1: pick from a few years ago who's frankly struggled at guard,

577
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Speaker 1: will be tried at center. They need a new center

578
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Speaker 1: this season. That might be like a salvation. Just give

579
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Speaker 1: it a shot, and they're going to bring in another center.

580
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Speaker 1: But that was interesting. And then I thought he was

581
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Speaker 1: more optimistic on Mac than he necessarily was on Joey Bosa.

582
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is under contract, he is not a free agent.

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at his contract, it makes

584
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Speaker 1: sense for Joey Bosa to be released. When asked about

585
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, Cortiz said he wants to retire a charger

586
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Speaker 1: I'd love for him to retire a Charger. I love

587
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Speaker 1: Joey the teammate and competitor. Sneaky non answer there.

588
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a subtle way of publicly asking a player

589
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Speaker 3: to take a pay cut really just to stay.

590
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Speaker 2: He just took one though.

591
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. And you know it's interesting the

592
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Speaker 3: local reporters out there covering the Chargers, they do believe

593
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Speaker 3: that he's going to be released.

594
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Speaker 2: Interesting.

595
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that was from Chris rim is his name with

596
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Speaker 1: with ESPN dot com, so I should credit Obviously. Some

597
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Speaker 1: of these are coming at the podium, which is free

598
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Speaker 1: to all, and some like this one is at a

599
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Speaker 1: little side session.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

601
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Speaker 2: I have to admit I tried to go back into

602
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Speaker 2: reporter mode. It's it's been a minute.

603
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Speaker 4: I know we were lurking. We were lurking in the

604
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Speaker 4: scrounds over here.

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Speaker 1: So I went great. I went to Horties. He was

606
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Speaker 1: one of the first guys up, but I was over

607
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Speaker 1: at Shane for the first ten minutes. And you know

608
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Speaker 1: you're checking on Twitter, man, did anyone ask about about

609
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa.

610
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to know that his answer to that question.

611
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: Did anyone, Well, it's not on Twitter and then you

612
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Speaker 1: ask someone because you don't want to double ask the question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: And then by the time I'm like Joe, Joe, they're

615
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Speaker 1: like times up and he's he was like off and

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Speaker 1: I didn't get it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm proud of you for trying. But here's a

618
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Speaker 3: little behind the curtain beat writer etiquette. So the reason

619
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Speaker 3: that wasn't asked at the podium is because the beat.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell the last I know, you're the best

621
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Speaker 3: like ally to beat rights on the planet, seriously, like

622
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Speaker 3: it is for like years and years and years around

623
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Speaker 3: the NFL and now NFL Daily like you. You are

624
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Speaker 3: the person that recognizes the beat writers. I'm serious about that.

625
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Speaker 3: But for the listener, the etiquette is when you are

626
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Speaker 3: in these scrums. The really annoying thing is when somebody

627
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Speaker 3: helicopter's in that's not on the beat. Because the beat

628
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Speaker 3: understands that they will get a side session in which

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Speaker 3: the newsworthy questions that they do not want aggregated and

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Speaker 3: basically their work going to someone else's aggregation before they

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Speaker 3: can write it up themselves. So that's why they don't

632
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Speaker 3: ask it publicly in front of the entire podium.

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Speaker 4: They wait for the side session. Now, I'm glad it

634
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Speaker 4: was asked, but you are in danger of being that guy.

635
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Speaker 4: So I'm glad.

636
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Speaker 3: I'm glad he didn't work out.

637
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Speaker 4: That's what where you meet me, beat writers.

638
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Speaker 2: You make your judgment call.

639
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: There are certain like unspoken rules that a lot of

640
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Speaker 1: the people here don't even aren't aware.

641
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Speaker 4: Of necessarily, but you are greg because you you can this.

642
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Speaker 1: This would be a case where I don't care, like,

643
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Speaker 1: don't be so precious, oh, beat writers, that you got

644
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: the exact same information on the side session. It's gonna

645
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Speaker 1: get aggregated anyways. This this is it's just a very

646
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Speaker 1: basic offseason question.

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Speaker 4: Feel personally attacked.

648
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it to me that one. I think there are

649
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: there are subtleties. This is like you gotta are you

650
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Speaker 1: confident Joey Boses back with the.

651
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Speaker 3: Team or not?

652
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Speaker 2: Like, calm down, Beat writers, everyone can hear that chance.

653
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Speaker 1: I don't know every single situation. Sometimes some coaches don't

654
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Speaker 1: do side sessions. They are and the question hadn't been asked.

655
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Speaker 3: But they are. The beat writers are aware. We're not

656
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Speaker 3: gonna go we're being pedantic now, but the beat writers

657
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Speaker 3: are aware that that will happen.

658
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Speaker 1: Sure, But then like, you know, Mike Rabel, he's not

659
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Speaker 1: doing any side stuff and like just a lot of

660
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Speaker 1: stuff doesn't get asked.

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Speaker 2: Who do you really care about?

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Speaker 1: The other beat writers or the listeners, the audience, the

663
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Speaker 1: fans of the Chargers. Let's take a quick break. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be back. We're gonna have twenty seven more takeaways,

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Speaker 1: and we're also gonna hear from a couple of general

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Speaker 1: managers right after this.

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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we've had twenty of the forty seven things

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Speaker 1: that we learned here Tuesday at the combine.

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Speaker 3: We're making good time.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one Aaron Glenn, this was good football guy through

672
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Speaker 1: and through.

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Speaker 2: Number one. He was either sweaty or had spilled stuff

674
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Speaker 2: on his shirt one or the other. Either way.

675
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Speaker 3: Football guy, football guy, total football guy. I will say

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Speaker 3: in the Google doc bullet point twenty one says Aaron Glenn,

677
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Speaker 3: colon football guy m Dash was either sweaty or wet.

678
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: Just he's a He's such a football guy.

679
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Speaker 3: Without the context. When I opened the doc, I was like, Okay,

680
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: what are we talking about here?

681
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: He's just like we are here to win now.

682
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: He talks and you definitely get Dan Campbell vibes, and

683
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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn was a fully formed personality as a player

684
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Speaker 1: and a coach before he ever worked for Dan Campbell.

685
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Speaker 1: I just think some of their strengths happened to be similar,

686
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Speaker 1: as like guys you would want to run through a

687
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Speaker 1: wall for Let's listen to him talking about just something

688
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: that made.

689
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Speaker 2: Him a little mad.

690
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Speaker 6: I'm confident that you can find a better quarterback than

691
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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers for twenty twenty five.

692
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Speaker 5: We're confident. We're trying to win games, so that may be.

693
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Speaker 5: It is what it is, so and that's it.

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Speaker 10: And the thing is, I don't want to disrespect any

695
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Speaker 10: other the players we have in my team, and they

696
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Speaker 10: kind of pisses me off and some of the other

697
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Speaker 10: players that that's what we all talk about. You have

698
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Speaker 10: Quinn Williams, you have Quinson william you have avt now

699
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Speaker 10: you have Joe Tibman. All those guys need to be

700
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Speaker 10: respected as far as winning games.

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Speaker 1: Also, I like the fire there from I love that

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn and a little context partly in reference to

703
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Speaker 1: a tweets out by Quinn Williams where he had a

704
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: thumbs down emoji for them getting rid of Aaron Rodgers.

705
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Speaker 1: So when Aaron Glenn is saying that he's pissing off

706
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Speaker 1: some people, he's not just talking about fansy, I guess

707
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: he's talking about Quinn Williams.

708
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Speaker 2: And I just love how straightforward he is.

709
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: I know, what you see is what you get with him,

710
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 3: and I love it. I was over listening to Dan

711
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Speaker 3: Campbell late in the late in the afternoon at his

712
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Speaker 3: podium and he was, of course the Jets beat was

713
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Speaker 3: in full over there, and they were asking about Aaron

714
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Speaker 3: Glenn and he was just talking about how Aaron Glenn

715
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Speaker 3: was the he said the words the CEO of our

716
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Speaker 3: defense and would be key and critical as a figure,

717
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Speaker 3: and an insight in their strategy meetings and their situational meetings,

718
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Speaker 3: those types of things. I think that was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of what the combine is press conference

720
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Speaker 1: wise is confirming things or more evidence that something you

721
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Speaker 1: think is going to happen is probably going to happen.

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Speaker 1: That was the case with questiadofa Mensa speaking on Tuesday

723
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: saying about Sam Donald, we have options, and so you

724
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Speaker 1: know the options would be tag and trade, just let

725
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Speaker 1: him walk with a compensatory pick, long term deal.

726
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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be one of the first two.

727
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Speaker 1: But he also said, we're so proud of what Sam

728
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Speaker 1: did for us, and it does feel like he's talking

729
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Speaker 1: in the past tense, and he said, we don't want

730
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Speaker 1: to overweight what he did the fifteen game first fifteen

731
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Speaker 1: games of the season and underweight last two games of

732
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Speaker 1: the season, or vice versa, like it is a really

733
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Speaker 1: tricky mental exercise to assign the proper weight to everything

734
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Speaker 1: that happens. But what he finished with is what he

735
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Speaker 1: left me with, which is like, we also don't want

736
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Speaker 1: to overlook those two games.

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Speaker 2: Yes, why they happened.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was an I thought that was an

739
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Speaker 3: extraordinariarrowly honest answer. Really it was because those two games

740
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Speaker 3: were the floor with Sam Donald that the Vikings themselves

741
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Speaker 3: had not scene, and so they have data on it now.

742
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Speaker 3: And I will say, you know, that continued to be

743
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Speaker 3: the question throughout the year over there is what is

744
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 3: this guy's floor. We're seeing a ceiling at this point,

745
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Speaker 3: we're seeing what we think felt he was capable of

746
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: and the potential that he's reaching, So they didn't quite

747
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Speaker 3: know the floor. Whenever you're making a decision about the quarterback,

748
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Speaker 3: you have to ascertain how high or how low that

749
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Speaker 3: floor is.

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Speaker 2: This week is the week.

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Speaker 1: I believe they'll determine if they have a trade market

752
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Speaker 1: strong enough to tag and trade him, and we'll find out.

753
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Speaker 1: March fourth is the day that they have to tag

754
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: him by or else he will be a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Number six on my list.

756
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: Maybe too high, but quarterbacks get a huge position bump up,

757
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: and he's the top one out there for now.

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Speaker 4: The list endorsed by Drew Rosenhaus Superior.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, now, I just feel like you're being condescending.

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Speaker 3: I'm really happy for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you a great it's a great little surprise twenty

762
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: three and twenty fours from Demiico Ryans. I liked how

763
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: much he wanted to improve so many things on his roster.

764
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Speaker 1: He's some guys will just be like, we want to

765
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Speaker 1: improve everything. He's like the offensive line is a main

766
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Speaker 1: point of VENTA.

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Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, we need we need help.

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Speaker 1: He's like, wide receiver is a big area of emphasis.

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Speaker 1: We need wide receivers. They said they have ongoing talks

770
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Speaker 1: with Stefan Diggs. They liked having him in the building.

771
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: He's coming off an injury. I think that uh, marriage

772
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Speaker 1: makes sense for both sides to continue. But he also

773
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: admitted he doesn't know when or if I think is

774
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: unsaid Tank Dell is going to be back this season,

775
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: and so you know you can't count on those two guys.

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Speaker 1: So he said that's a big main area emphasis. But

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Speaker 1: then he kept going and he was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the more I looked at it, actually we need more

779
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Speaker 1: defensive linemen and so the defensive tackle is another main

780
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: area of emphasis or him. So those are your Texans needs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean it's that's again that was a

782
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Speaker 3: point of honesty during lying season. I would agree, And

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Speaker 3: I think anytime you have a dynamic defensive coach like

784
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Speaker 3: Demiko Ryans, You're obviously always gonna look, Okay, where can

785
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: we like improve and where can we just add little

786
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: little pieces in different places all along the roster, even

787
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Speaker 3: if the offensive needs are the most glaring. And I

788
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Speaker 3: honestly I like this team now as problem solvers, especially

789
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Speaker 3: with the energy they have in the building with Demiko,

790
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: with Nick Kyley, the new offensive point here that they

791
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: brought out. I was talking with someone with the Texans

792
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: to the side of when Demiko was on the NFL

793
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: Network set and they were talking about how just like

794
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 3: they believe that they have answers to problems, you know,

795
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: like it's something that and he said it in a

796
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: striking way where it's like, this is good momentum, this

797
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: is new for us. This is great to have to

798
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: feel like you actually can go out and problem solve

799
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Speaker 3: in a way that is functional.

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Speaker 1: I think Debigo Ryans is an incredible defensive problem solver.

801
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: I will give Nick Cassario his flowers. I like how

802
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: they've yeah built this team up from the front office.

803
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: The offensive planning was kind of where it was lacking,

804
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: and so that's the hope with Nick Kyley. Certainly twenty

805
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: five through twenty seven.

806
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: We got a new contract one of our favorite players

807
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: to watch this year.

808
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Speaker 1: Shout out Khalil Shakir four year extension quote unquote up

809
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: to so who knows what that means sixty million, so

810
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: that that would be max value. The key number is

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Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars guaranteed. You would assume that's mostly,

812
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Speaker 1: if not all, in the first two years of the contract,

813
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: so that if I had to guess, it'll be somewhere

814
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Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of like two for thirty two or

815
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: some of that guarantees into the thirty year, but it's

816
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: roughly fifteen sixteen million dollars probably in the first two

817
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: years of his contract, which is the rare case. And

818
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: this is no slight to Shakira or his agent. There

819
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: are reasons that this happened, but it's a it's a deal.

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Speaker 1: The second it's signed, it's like, that's a good value,

821
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Speaker 1: you know, like that's a good deal of business for

822
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: both sides. And he's a late round pick who's still

823
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: a year away from free agency, so of course you

824
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Speaker 1: take thirty million dollars guarantees, that's who I would be.

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00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 3: Doing it early is ultimately like, like you said that,

826
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Speaker 3: doing it early like that is ultimately going to be good.

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Speaker 3: He and I want to be clear on this. He

828
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: is a Volume one and they obviously went in the

829
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Speaker 3: draft and looked around for another player who could be

830
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: dynamic for them Kean Coleman, and I think they're gonna

831
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Speaker 3: do it again. I think they're gonna keep drafting and

832
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: sort of overhauling, especially while they have a vault, like

833
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: specifically a Volume one under contract.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because the contract's not for a one.

835
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Speaker 1: So that's what I think they love so that he's

836
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: almost got the contract of a one. They have a

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Speaker 1: first round pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think they add to that position.

839
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be Amari Cooper was interesting,

840
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Speaker 1: by the way, this is not one of the points.

841
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Speaker 1: I'm just adding one for free because we just love

842
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Speaker 1: forty eight.

843
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Speaker 2: We just love our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was the only coach to speak on Monday Weird,

845
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Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, Kean Coleman, it was pretty

846
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: up and down. It was he was, he said, essentially

847
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: after his injury. It was a little rough more or less.

848
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing a couple more bills points quickly. Brandon Bean,

849
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: he said, we'll see on Razila Douglas who's a free agent.

850
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: That's code for he gone. And he was asked about

851
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: James Cook, a story I didn't make yet on the show,

852
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: James Cook being out front saying he wants specifically fifteen

853
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year.

854
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: I believe I'm worth that money. I want that money now.

855
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Speaker 1: And he also called James Cook a beautiful man, and

856
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: like I think he would have rathered maybe James kept.

857
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: I think he meant like he's beautiful that he just

858
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: speaks his mind. But he Yeah, he's an attractive guy too.

859
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: I think it's there's at least one wholesome moment per

860
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Speaker 3: press conference between the two of them, whether it's Sean

861
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Speaker 3: or Brandon Bean. Brandon Bean loves the circuit. He's like

862
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: on all the he does. So I think that's why

863
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: Sean went early. He's like, yeah, the people are here

864
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: for Brandon Bean, so let's let's so.

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Speaker 1: I'm being a little rude when I said to start

866
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Speaker 1: the show, all the gms are starting to look like

867
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: each other, because just to paint the picture, we're at

868
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Speaker 1: a table, we're at a set. I don't one hundred

869
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Speaker 1: and fifty feet away. One hundred feet away. I'm not

870
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Speaker 1: good at approximated fee. And so you see the podiums,

871
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 1: and they all they've all got like the pullover.

872
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: The quarters up convention.

873
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they all there's like a group of them.

874
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: Goody was is on my floor in my hotel, and

875
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: so I've seen him in the elevator and there's like

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: a mix of like Goody Brandon Bean. I don't know,

877
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Speaker 1: like maybe you throw Veach in there. You can kind

878
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Speaker 1: of tell who what Beach looks like. Borganzi, the New

879
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: Titans guy where they all kind of just look like,

880
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: like create a GM on.

881
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: Madden Sim's characters.

882
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just sort of look like GM, and I

883
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: just like I look like, you know, average small podcaster

884
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: like they.

885
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: I thought you and James Gladstone really hit it off

886
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: in terms of like similar appearances.

887
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Good, good tease. We both like our shackets. He's on

888
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: your shackets and your hair sweel he's on later. That's true.

889
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: We gotta get we got to get there. Okay.

890
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: Twenty eight through thirties, the Eagles section of the show,

891
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, I just like that. He said I can't

892
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: stop thinking about offensive lineman and the lineman and that

893
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: he would consider it unhealthy, so he's got to keep

894
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: adding there. He wouldn't get an answer on Miles Garrett.

895
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: And I bring that up because there was an ESPN

896
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: report that, like league sources think that the Eagles might

897
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: be pushing in on Miles Garrett.

898
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Speaker 4: I would love that fit and I don't care getting better.

899
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: I love it that goes along with.

900
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: That he can't stop thinking about offensive lineman and defensive lineman.

901
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 11: You know, it is a.

902
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: Very well executed, performative football show that he puts on

903
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: every off season, where every little tidbit and every little

904
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: appearance and every everything is I think a mathematical equation

905
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: towards what this team is going to be and its identity,

906
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: And honestly, I kind of love.

907
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: That that would be amazing if they went big. He

908
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: spoke about where they were in their process. Not to

909
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: pat myself on the back again, but we talked on

910
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: the NFC East preview that they're at an interesting place

911
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: in their cycle as a team. And I was saying

912
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: this that they have a lot of their young twenty eight,

913
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven year olds sign long term, and

914
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: what he was kind of saying was like, this is

915
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: kind of an off season to push for us because

916
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: we actually don't have a lot. We have a lot

917
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: of young guys under contract. We can be a little

918
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: riskier this offseason. So I'm gonna move the points around

919
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: and point forty two is actually coming up here. It's

920
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: a point thirty. It's making a big move because the

921
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry news he literally moved it in the document.

922
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah I did.

923
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: That is how committed to the show. Greg Rosenthal is.

924
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Andrew Barry is the Browns general manager. He talked

925
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: about Miles Garrett. We should talk about these two things together. Yes,

926
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: of course, very strong, saying it's irrelevant how many people

927
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: have called because we aren't interested in trading him, and

928
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Speaker 1: when as strong as possible that they are not interested.

929
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: At first, I wasn't buying from the Browns. Are you

930
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: buying now?

931
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: I could go either way, honestly, I could be tucked

932
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: into either way, because I do believe that they understand

933
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 3: that trading a player of that caliper is it could

934
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 3: backfire on you.

935
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: He said he didn't see how it would help them,

936
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: you know fair Yeah, I.

937
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: Mean if you got a crapload of compensation, I could

938
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: see how it would help you. But that's the thing

939
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 3: is some of this is also posturing driving the price

940
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: up publicly. Now. I don't actually think they're getting into

941
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: this looking too specifically trade him like that, it's already

942
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: a foregone conclusion. I do think that it's really helpful

943
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: to drive the price up this way, and that they

944
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: could trade him if they had the right price.

945
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Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's well said, thanks Greg. They

946
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: by saying this, it's sort of making the point. You're

947
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: right that they're not looking to trade him, and it's

948
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: gonna take that. They're ready to keep him. They're probably

949
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: expecting to keep him unless they get a true mother load.

950
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: And we'll see. We'll see if they get a true motherload.

951
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: I would love to see it. I still think it

952
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: could happen. I guess I'm not totally buying it.

953
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: I think it.

954
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I think he's expecting the motherload offer to come. Now

955
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: it's point thirty one. You got to back it all up.

956
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni of the Eagles had some interesting comments we

957
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: mentioned on Monday Show with Tom how at least one

958
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: team packers.

959
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to get rid of the touch push.

960
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Nick isn't happy about it. Let's listen.

961
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 6: You know, I almost feel a little insulted because we

962
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 6: work so hard at that play, the fact that it's

963
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 6: an automatic thing, that like, we work really really hard,

964
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 6: and our guys are talented at this play, and so

965
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 6: it's a little insulting to say it's just just you know,

966
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 6: we're good at it, so it's automatic. We work really

967
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 6: hard at it. There wasn't a lot of injuries there.

968
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 6: I think that's I think it's a little made up,

969
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 6: to be honest. Now, the numbers will will tell the truth.

970
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 6: But I don't think there was many injuries with it

971
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 6: this year. I can't remember one injury we had on

972
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: that play, and we bran it more than everybody else.

973
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the point that he made about there's

974
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: actually no data for extra injuries on this great point

975
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: because it's true.

976
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: I know that. I know he came with his note cards,

977
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure, and his little talk, his little rebuttal points too,

978
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: because that's a very good point.

979
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: There's it seems like you're putting your your offensive linemen

980
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: and the defensive line two at a bigger risk. But

981
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: there's so few plays, there's so little data, and there

982
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: there isn't proof of the I don't think that's spush

983
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: just staying that.

984
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: I've I've come along.

985
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: To like there's we're going to do this every off season,

986
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 4: and it's something else comes.

987
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: From I promise not to actually I promise not.

988
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying we the collective zeitgeist.

989
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: If it doesn't happen this season, I'm not going to

990
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: talk about it again. It's not going anywhere. The Eagles

991
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: are awesome. Our next point and this is it's been

992
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: a long day and I'm like what does that even mean.

993
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: It's Brad Holmes of the Lions, and this is straight

994
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: from our friend Kevin Patra who is out banging out

995
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: great articles check them out on NFL dot com.

996
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: From where we're sitting right now, he's been hard at

997
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: work on this copy for like the last couple hours.

998
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: He mentioned.

999
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes of his hometown Lions, admitted there's probably not

1000
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: room with the way their build is and their roster

1001
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: for another big pass rusher splash. I'm surprised, but that

1002
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: would seem to indicate they would not be in the

1003
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: Garrett business for ye.

1004
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 3: Yes. A similarly related tidbit. The videos of Aiden Hutchinson

1005
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: running that circulated across social media. You know, as he

1006
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: continues to make his return or make his way toward returning,

1007
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: obviously you're going to see where he's at and I

1008
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: think build around him.

1009
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: That just put it together for me.

1010
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: He's up for another contract, not that it would be

1011
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: this offseason, but they know they're going to pay ad

1012
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: In Hutchinson top tier money. So can you bring a

1013
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett aboard when you know Hutchinson's getting that deal

1014
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: either this August or next February or whenever it's going

1015
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: to be.

1016
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: That's a great point, Jordan.

1017
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: This must be how you felt when Drew Rosenhaus come,

1018
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: a superagent, approached you on the street to complement your

1019
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: top one hundred.

1020
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: Top one o one one free agent and try to

1021
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: take away that one for me. Pff, I see what

1022
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: you're doing going one oh one now too.

1023
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: It's up with that.

1024
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles was one of the gentlemen that we got

1025
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: to speak with today, and we're going to run his interview.

1026
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, later in the week, they're all not

1027
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: going to be today. But I think he had a

1028
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: little newsy nugget, which is I positioned that they haven't

1029
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: really spent money in free agency on the offensive line.

1030
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: They obviously have needs there, and he indicated that that's

1031
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: an opportunity they're looking to spend on the interior line specifically,

1032
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: so that that's something you could expect them to do now.

1033
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: I thought that, plus his re emphasis, which I know

1034
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 3: it's been a couple of years that he has said

1035
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: things like this, but the re emphasis and sort of

1036
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: emphatic way he talked about needing to run the book

1037
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: and needing to shore up and better basically identify better

1038
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: talent and figure out what combination works the best, you know,

1039
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: figure out what center works the best. With Caleb Williams,

1040
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: he went over a couple of possibilities of traits in

1041
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: that regard, So yeah, I thought that was a little

1042
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: bit newsy, little tidbit.

1043
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.

1044
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: And he also said the left tackle position will be

1045
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: open for competition, so Braxton Jones is not locked in there,

1046
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: which really says like four of their spots are pretty

1047
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: wide open, which it's tough. He talked about the juice

1048
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: that Ben Johnson has points thirty four through thirty five.

1049
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of dip on that chip.

1050
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised Ben Johnson sneaky amount of swag,

1051
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: sneak amount of like he can lead a room, leadership presence,

1052
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: and sneaky tall, all of that with Ben Johnson.

1053
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had quite a day of discovery.

1054
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: I think I thought he profiles as like a shorter guy,

1055
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: but he's not. And he also is surprisingly yes, swaggy.

1056
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: And Ryan Poles said the same thing that like, don't

1057
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't know why people think that of Ben Johnson.

1058
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: He absolutely is kind of careful.

1059
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: Because they think of him as like the Boston college nerd. Like,

1060
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: that's really what But that's the thing. He has a presence.

1061
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 3: It's points thirty four and thirty five.

1062
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: We're great examples. Look, you can be nerdy and still

1063
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: have all sorts of confidence.

1064
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: Nerd rage is a powerful thing.

1065
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1066
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: I also like, he said, I didn't hire my friends.

1067
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: I purposefully went outside my circle to hire coaches, including

1068
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Declan Doyle, his offensive coordinator, who I think it was

1069
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: Sean Payton who said he's like a young Ben Johnson,

1070
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson was like, I think that's a good thing.

1071
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: So he's he didn't hire friends, but he did try

1072
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: to hire his own clones. Okay, weird.

1073
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: Can we take a minute to recognize the amount of

1074
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: subtle shots Ben Johnson has taken at other people in

1075
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: the league, like and not so subtle. We talked about

1076
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 3: this with Polls. Well, you'll hear it later in the week,

1077
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: like the Matt Lafleur shot that he took. It is

1078
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: true opening press conference. The fact that he said he

1079
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: didn't get there get to where he is because he

1080
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: had a famous last name or a family.

1081
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 4: Member in the business. And now he's saying this, I

1082
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: kind of love it.

1083
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: This dude has the juice and he's just having fun.

1084
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: Here's another word for taking shots, being honest.

1085
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 2: The NFL.

1086
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: This is how they all talk. Actually, I shouldn't say

1087
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: they're all like. I don't think Todd Bowles necessarily like.

1088
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: There are just guys that operate from a position of

1089
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: kindness and nicest and any any thoughts that they have

1090
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: there they're keeping it to themselves more than that. But

1091
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: four out of five of them are talking mad, you know,

1092
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: trash to each other and amongst themselves about each other.

1093
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: And so yeah, it is is like a little bit

1094
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 2: of honesty.

1095
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 3: Yes, I like that. Yeah.

1096
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: Thirty six through thirty eight the Titans first press conference for.

1097
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 4: Cope season for the Tennessee Titans.

1098
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Everybody for Mike Organzi. I keep wanting to call him

1099
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Nate Bargazzi.

1100
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: Who you did on accident today?

1101
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: By the way, I clocked it, and uh, he said

1102
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: they've received calls on the number one pick.

1103
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: That's zero point thirty six.

1104
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're keeping truck, he wants as

1105
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: many one hundred top one hundred picks as possible, So

1106
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: me too.

1107
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 2: That was that was interesting. I'm kind of combining those two.

1108
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: He was asked the most important trait from a quarterback,

1109
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: I think by the same guy who's just like writing

1110
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: an article and had a much better answer than Joe

1111
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Shane processing.

1112
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 4: I like, ooh, good buzzword. Good buzzword.

1113
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: I think that's true.

1114
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I would say pocket, movement or processing.

1115
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: If I had to choose like one thing.

1116
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: I'd love a combination of both.

1117
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: Yes, of course.

1118
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1119
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: Say my question is like.

1120
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 4: As as we're talking about wantson knees.

1121
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: Those those would be my two. I mean it's great

1122
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: to be like six' five and.

1123
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: Fast oh do you know from, EXPERIENCE i just.

1124
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: Think that really.

1125
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: Matters like physical traits are also. Important you, know he's

1126
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of physical Traits Will. Levis he says

1127
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: they don't want to Trade Will.

1128
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 2: Levis. Okay he also said they want to add through

1129
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: the draft and have a veteran. There so.

1130
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: That's Will levis plus those other two. GUYS i, think you,

1131
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: know if there's no market probably For Will, levis we'll.

1132
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: See he also was asked about like competing for the

1133
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: division and, said, well we'll manage. EXPECTATIONS i kind of

1134
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: like A gm that's actually not even talking up your Chances.

1135
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that answer BECAUSE i think everybody on

1136
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: the planet can see what a rebuild this is going

1137
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: to continue to.

1138
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: Be and sometimes you get a pleasant surprise like seven

1139
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: win season out of the, gate and then you then

1140
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: it's a pleasant surprise if you.

1141
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: Set the bar, Low, yes it's going to be that

1142
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: much better when you win like four games when you expected.

1143
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: To you, know it's such an obvious cliche that you first,

1144
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: hear at LEAST i did maybe in your young twenties

1145
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: under sell and over. Deliver but as cliches, go it's

1146
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: one of the most important AND i think one of the.

1147
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Best JUST i think if you live your life under

1148
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: selling and over, delivering everyone like set expectations very.

1149
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 4: Low was this in like dating or how when did you?

1150
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: Man, NO i think more ABOUT i don't know when it.

1151
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: Came it came of in some career.

1152
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Setting, okay got it all, Right i'm talking job, specifically

1153
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: right in, general like not like in a job, interview

1154
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to undersell yourself too, much.

1155
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: BUT i think in production in, general like sneak up

1156
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 2: on them a little.

1157
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: Bit, YEAH i think that's exactly what he's trying to

1158
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: do to do with, this, yeah you, know and they're, like,

1159
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: oh how do you do? That and you, know mid

1160
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: season we're, like oh my, god how fun are The?

1161
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: Titans? Now we did not see this.

1162
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: Coming you know who kind of snuck up on The

1163
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: Cognizanti Jason light of The Tampa Bay. BUCCANEERS i used

1164
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: to do the top GM's. RANKINGS i GUESS i don't

1165
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: do them anymore because it's been a couple of.

1166
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: Years well because they're not fully supported and endorsed By

1167
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: Drew Rosenhaus Comma.

1168
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: Superagent oh, man THE. Gms do you imagine they hate?

1169
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: These it was the only time anyone ever cared about.

1170
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: Anything just guys who would be ranked too low would

1171
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: be very. Upset but If i'm doing it again this,

1172
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: year maybe we'll bring it. Back this as like an.

1173
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: Episode Jason light's got to be top five and we

1174
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: talked to. Him you'll hear that conversation later in the.

1175
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Week the most newsworthy THING i think he said to,

1176
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: us and he said similar versions of it to other media,

1177
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: Today but the way he said it to US i liked,

1178
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: best which was he, Said Chris godwin in the end

1179
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: is going to be on The Mount. Rushmore, yes Of

1180
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Buccaneers that does not sound like a guy

1181
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: he is ready to let leave the.

1182
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 3: Building one of the things THAT i like about doing

1183
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: these in person sessions, too is you can see the

1184
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: way someone's face changes when they talk about. People for,

1185
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: example you're going to hear it in a little bit

1186
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: on this, EPISODE i throughout the Name Matthew stafford To

1187
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: john Spy tech and he kept his face extremely. Frozen

1188
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: Radio you're not giving anything? Away, Yeah and then but

1189
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: in this, Case Jason light was just he. MELTED i mean,

1190
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: really and how could you. Not Chris godwin's. Amazing he

1191
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: totally melted talking about. Him, obviously they have some things

1192
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: he mentioned this, Too they have some things to figure

1193
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: out in terms of like how back fully can he,

1194
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: be and extending that deadline really helps them get a

1195
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: little bit better data set on where he's actually at right,

1196
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: now as well as gives them some time to figure

1197
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: out what the contract would look.

1198
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: Like unfortunately for, them it also Gives Chris godwin's agent

1199
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: a little time to set the. Market and that Is

1200
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: i'm not Saying i'm like Buzz central, here but that

1201
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: is one item of buzz THAT i Think Chris, godwin

1202
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: despite the, injury has a real, market not a.

1203
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: Surprise he's the best wide receiver on the.

1204
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: Market it's either him or A Marii, cooper AND i

1205
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people that view him

1206
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: as a great combination of he's gonna change our locker room,

1207
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: potentially and as he gets healthier on a two or

1208
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: three year, contract he's gonna get better and be a

1209
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: really plus. Player SO i think he's gonna get a good,

1210
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: Contract but ULTIMATELY i think it's going to be from

1211
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: The bucks points forty and forty. One mike McDaniel revealed

1212
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: That Tyreek hill had surgery to repair ligament damage in his.

1213
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: Wrist there was not a break, there there was ligament,

1214
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: damage but that's. Noteworthy so he'll be recovering from. That

1215
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: we'll see if he's a potential trade target for teams this.

1216
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: Offseason no real clue on. That he also said That

1217
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: dolphins are operating as if they won't Have Toron, armstead

1218
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: indicating that he's more likely to retire than. Not that

1219
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: they are kind of assuming that unless they are told.

1220
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: Otherwise so they have a, man they have a lot

1221
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: of work to. Do The dolphins are sneaky going to

1222
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: be main characters this offseason BECAUSE i just think they

1223
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: have so many needs and so many players going, elsewhere

1224
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: and just like a lot's going on with The dolphins right.

1225
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: NOW i like that they kept some continuity on their.

1226
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: Staff you, Know Anthony weaver who was ON Nfl daily

1227
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: with us back in the regular. Season you, know he

1228
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: had some. Interviews BUT i like that they are actually

1229
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: able to keep their building. Intact. NOW i know that

1230
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: there's some heat locally On Chris greer and how are

1231
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: you building this? Roster there's some heat locally On mike McDaniel,

1232
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 3: frankly and SO i think and he just got the,

1233
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: extension but, still AND i think that this is a big,

1234
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: season of pivotal season about what do you guys really

1235
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: want to be made? Of what is your? Identity besides

1236
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: it was? Speed what is it going to be when

1237
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: the speed gets?

1238
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: Old they seem committed To Chris.

1239
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: GREER i talked With Tom, pelisarah how you, know when

1240
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: you guys are out there, reporting you've got to be

1241
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: very careful with how you say. THINGS i feel like

1242
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: as long as you preface it with, like here's some

1243
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: irresponsible speculation out of nowhere like if ever there was

1244
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: going to be a post draft, surprise IF i had

1245
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: to make one team to do it in THE nfl this,

1246
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: season and we've seen it over the years every once

1247
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: in a while with front offices that flip post. Draft

1248
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: it just hit me as you were, talking it's unlikely to.

1249
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: HAPPEN i haven't heard, anything but Like Chris, greer kind

1250
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: of fits the mold of guys that have suddenly lost

1251
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: their jobs after the draft. Before that's just me, spitballing

1252
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: and in the like two percent chance That i'm, RIGHT

1253
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: i will definitely honk about.

1254
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 4: It, yeah we have to cut and file this entire

1255
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: clip just in. Case we'll put it in The greg.

1256
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: File number forty three on the.

1257
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: List Andrew, barry who we talked about earlier in terms

1258
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: Of Miles, garrett also talked About Travis, hunter the Dynamic

1259
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: colorado prospect who could play cornerback or wide receiver at

1260
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: the next. Level interesting to me that a team right

1261
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: at the top of the draft The browns say they

1262
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: are Viewing Travis hunter as a wide receiver. First, Now

1263
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: borganzi said he thinks he could do. Both barry wasn't

1264
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: saying he couldn't do, both but he said spotting him yeah,

1265
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: first which is counter to conventional wisdom and at least

1266
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: how much of the media believes teams will View Travis

1267
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: hunter very it's.

1268
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: Fat, listen first time it's ever. Happened AND i.

1269
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: Wonder if there's a little smoke, there BECAUSE i would

1270
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: think that you would draft a number one corner a

1271
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: little bit.

1272
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: Higher AND i don't.

1273
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: KNOW i just think it's.

1274
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: INTERESTING i wonder if he's trying to maybe drop him

1275
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1276
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: Down, well he's had, two he could always trade.

1277
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 4: Down, CERTAINLY i did trying to get him to.

1278
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: Do now here's some dot.

1279
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: Connecting Daniel jeremiah is the only one in the media

1280
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: who is evaluating the players and saying the exact same

1281
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: thing That barry.

1282
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: Said what Does Daniel jeremiah?

1283
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: Know it's not even that You're, wendymia that's beside the.

1284
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: Point but If Daniel jeremiah sees a player a certain,

1285
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: way doesn't mean all THE nfl teams are even a majority,

1286
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: are but it means that some, are and The browns

1287
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: are apparently one of. Them and the argument that he

1288
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: made makes a lot of sense to. ME a actually

1289
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: wide receivers do make more, money so from A Travis

1290
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: hunter perspective and from AN nfl front office, perspective they

1291
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: value true one. Receivers and the thing that really stuck

1292
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: with me on DJ's evaluation is there's just not a

1293
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: lot of cornerbacks that are like elite players that are

1294
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: under one hundred and eighty, pounds whereas wide receivers there's a.

1295
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: Lot there's.

1296
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: Plenty Denzel ward would be an, exception But Denzel ward's

1297
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't been healthy at. All and can

1298
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: a guy Like Travis hunter hold up having to make

1299
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: those tackles on the edge and. Stuff it's a fascinating

1300
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 1: question we'll talk about as the draft gets.

1301
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: Closer let's do some.

1302
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: News rap sheet broke the news that there's already been

1303
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: some trade talks between The commanders with other teams About Jonathan,

1304
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: allen their Former All Pro Pro bowl defensive. Tackle shout

1305
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: out to the twenty three candidate's trade candidates. Show we

1306
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: Threw Jonathan allen out there just as like a, guest

1307
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: and that one sounds like it could.

1308
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: Happen, yeah that was actually some early news today, too

1309
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: which is kind of interesting that it hit the circuit

1310
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: before everyone else showed.

1311
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: Up so Rap sheets always hustle in.

1312
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: That that's, like, well he Arrived monday afternoon. EVENING i

1313
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: BELIEVE i know his. Schedule and so you think you

1314
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: think Rap sheets staying in the hotel like, me AFTER

1315
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: i saw That nuggets, games like, NO i went. Home

1316
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great feeling to be, like,

1317
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: WAIT i don't have to stay.

1318
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: Out super late in like some cigar filled room till

1319
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: like two in the. MORNING i could just go home

1320
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: IF i.

1321
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: Want this is.

1322
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: GREAT i don't know why it took me so long

1323
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: to realize.

1324
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: This that's.

1325
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: Maturity and, yeah So i'm sure Rap sheet was already

1326
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: starting and a lot of times during this, week and

1327
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: we'll be updating the news all. Week, yeah the conversations

1328
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: that happen in these bars at, night they turn into

1329
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: tweets by our.

1330
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: Insiders and of course the commander is also kind of

1331
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: a favorite in the discussion for any possible Bul Miles

1332
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: Garrett trade kind of one of the favorites as.

1333
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: Well Brian, gutakanz WHO i, mentioned looks like a few other.

1334
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 4: And is your hotel, neighbor, Right i'm.

1335
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: Not trying to blow up a, spot BUT i guess

1336
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: no one knows where it, is will he.

1337
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: Said he said ON JayR alexander will see we'll see

1338
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: his combine code for he. Gone SO i don't think

1339
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: they're going to Bring alexander. Back i'll have to think

1340
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: about where to put him on the one oh one

1341
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: if they do cut him and don't find a trade for,

1342
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: him which is WHAT i think will. Happen and he

1343
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 1: was one of many of the general managers to say

1344
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: we need to be able to rush with.

1345
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: Four how we do that remains to be. Seen again,

1346
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 3: subtle not so. Subtle, yeah reference to some of the

1347
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: players available in free agency and some of these, dynamic

1348
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: especially interior guys in the draft, class they're fiddling over

1349
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: their combination number forty.

1350
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: SIX i was, like we got to Get monty acid

1351
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: forour into the. Show it's the off, Season, monty and

1352
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: it's not really catching on. Yet i'm pushing this. One

1353
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: it's a Big It's monty comes to center. STAGE i

1354
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: feel like The cardinals are just ignored and he's gonna

1355
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: need to have more juicy stuff to talk about at

1356
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: the podium to really.

1357
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: Get people.

1358
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: Excited he did say he wanted to add to the

1359
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: quarterback room that that was a. PRIORITY i think he

1360
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: means the backup, position but just. UPGRADE i think the

1361
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: backup position is going to be important to.

1362
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: Him you're gonna get some really good backups in like the, fourth, fifth,

1363
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: sixth seventh rounds of this.

1364
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: Class really and it's a really deep backup quarterback free agency.

1365
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 4: Class bridge guys.

1366
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: Abound it's really weird how cheap guys Like jamis And Mason.

1367
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: Rudolph to, me they have a lot of, value and

1368
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: yet there's there's actually so many of them that they

1369
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: don't have that much.

1370
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: VALUE i.

1371
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: Guess he also, Said Joana, williams this is just little,

1372
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: housekeeping BUT i like tracking all. This If Joanah, williams

1373
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: Former bengals tackle who was paid a lot of money

1374
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: by The cardinals to help them at the tackle position

1375
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: but had a major, injury there was some question whether

1376
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: they might cut. Him he made it, Clear Joana, williams

1377
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: we'll be. Back so just little. Housekeeping he will remain

1378
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: on The. Cardinals and we wrap up our forty seven.

1379
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: Points we made up the number to start the, show

1380
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: and then we backfilled forty. Seven we got to leave

1381
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: it to our guy D Orlando ledbetter and one of

1382
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: our favorite traditions of the.

1383
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: Year, explain explain it and throw it to. D, yeah so.

1384
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: Every everyone knows that The university Of georgia always had

1385
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: like especially in recent, years has just sent a ton

1386
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: of players to the draft and d led he always

1387
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: stands front and center To Terry fonteau's press conference and

1388
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 3: a couple of other guys as, well and he asks

1389
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: them to talk about The and he's AN i by the,

1390
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 3: way he's one of the all time beat writer greats

1391
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: in our business in icon and he always wears a

1392
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: very unique bow tie and like he's he's an awesome.

1393
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: Dude and he stands at the very front and he

1394
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: asked THE gm to talk about the x number Of

1395
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: georgia players coming down in the, draft and then he lists.

1396
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: Them let's listen in just give us. This it's kind

1397
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: of like one for. Us it just amuses. Us just love,

1398
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: It De. Orlando we're gonna listen to his. Question then

1399
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a.

1400
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: Break on the other side of the, break you will

1401
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: hear our interviews with the New raiders general Manager john Spy.

1402
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: Tech he makes it clear he's just not a friend

1403
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: Of tom fot he's his own. Guy he gave me

1404
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: the business a little.

1405
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: Bit was a fun.

1406
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: Conversation and then you'll hear immediately after that our conversation

1407
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: with the new kid on The. Block looks like he

1408
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: could be in The New kids on The. Block james Glatz,

1409
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: on the general manager of The. Jaguars we will close

1410
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: out the show on the other side of. That but, first,

1411
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: yeah De, orlando take it away.

1412
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 11: Here we didn't ask you about the fourteen players from

1413
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 11: The university Of georgia who are at the combine at

1414
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 11: two From Georgia tech the past you talk about putting

1415
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 11: up peaches on the, board got another twenty five players

1416
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 11: from high schools In. Georgia what is that like for you,

1417
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 11: know having a fertile local ground for your logo day

1418
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 11: and kids just scout and the maybe hill bought the

1419
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 11: team THAT.

1420
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: I here With John, spytech the general manager of The

1421
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Raiders welcome to your first combine running a.

1422
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 12: Team my gotta even know what is my twenty, third

1423
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 12: twenty four combines first and a share like, this so,

1424
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 12: yeah great to BE i was just joking my.

1425
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 5: Kids almost half of a year spent In india in my.

1426
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 5: Life that.

1427
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 4: Is, yeah when you do the, math it's. Concerning, YEAH i,

1428
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 4: KNOW i like AND i like.

1429
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: IT i like that it's here, Too BUT i also, think,

1430
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: like of all the places That i've spent a week

1431
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: in once a, year you, KNOW i could mix it.

1432
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: Up everyone is so fixated On. Indianapolis but let's let's

1433
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: get to, You. John we all have A raiders fan

1434
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: in our. Life, YEAH i love. That mine happens to

1435
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: be my personal, trainer which is embarrassing BECAUSE i have

1436
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: the body of like a thirteen year.

1437
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 5: Old it's kind of a humble breag.

1438
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: There, yeah it's like And i'm, LIKE i, said, Well

1439
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: i'm GONNA i told HIM i was gonna talk to,

1440
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: you and he's just, like just tell him we need a.

1441
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: Quarterback bring up the.

1442
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: QUARTERBACKS i am ready to give up on The raiders

1443
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: if he does not get us.

1444
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: Quarterback so what are you gonna do to make him

1445
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: happy and get a?

1446
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 12: Quarterback this autum sounds like we better find a quarterback that,

1447
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 12: listen what's his, Name?

1448
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 5: Steven. Steven we gotta Make steven.

1449
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 12: Happy we don't make our leaders trans to a HAPPY i,

1450
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 12: Listen we're gonna the way That i've, been the Way

1451
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 12: i've learned is you look, on you look, everywhere and

1452
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 12: you stay open, minded and then you end up In

1453
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 12: tampa like With Tom. Brady give me whoever would have

1454
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 12: Thought Tom brady would have come To. Tampa we were

1455
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 12: the losing his team and the four major sports in

1456
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 12: The american history at the, time and then the grace

1457
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 12: of all time shows up and then we found our

1458
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 12: way To baker. Two SO i, Listen we're gonna take

1459
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 12: this day at a. Time we're still working With pete

1460
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 12: And chip and the offensive staff about what's what's most,

1461
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 12: important what are the non, negotiables and you, know we're

1462
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 12: gonna keep swinging until we until we find that.

1463
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: Guy how aggressive are you prepared to? Be you guys

1464
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: have a lot of capital available to. You there's a

1465
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 3: lot of names floating, Around Matthew stafford being one of.

1466
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 4: Them but how aggressive are you guys thinking you're willing to?

1467
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: Be knowing that you, know you And pete sat up

1468
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: in your intro pressors and talked about wanting to be

1469
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 3: com very.

1470
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,839
Speaker 4: Competitive, Immediately, YEAH.

1471
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 5: I think we'd.

1472
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 12: Be we're going to be intelligently aggressive and we're mindful

1473
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 12: of the money that we have and not just not

1474
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 12: just lighted on fire just to say, like, yeah we

1475
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 12: got three quarterbacks in a room, now and maybe one.

1476
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 5: Of them can be.

1477
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: It you, KNOW i Make steven happy, Though, YEAH i mean.

1478
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 12: It's going to be we go on the top of my.

1479
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 12: Board Make stephen, happy which should make all Of raaiter nation.

1480
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 12: Happy we play in a great, division and it's it's no.

1481
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 12: Secret if we don't we don't build a good, team

1482
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 12: and we don't we don't have a quarterback and support that, quarterback,

1483
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 12: like we're going to have a hard time in our.

1484
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 12: Division so you, know, Listen i've never been one to

1485
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 12: run from a. CHALLENGE i Know pete isn't one to

1486
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 12: run from a. Challenge and we're acutely aware of the

1487
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 12: quality of, coach quarterback roster and our division and we got.

1488
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 5: To put something together to compete with those.

1489
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: Times, honestly it's hard to folk just knowing how much

1490
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: Pop steven is getting in this interview and how happy

1491
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna, be and how HAPPY i am that you, said,

1492
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 1: OH i know you before you interviewed. Me it's, like,

1493
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: OH i know you, Said Now I'm i'm just melting.

1494
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 4: You it is about, You, Greg it's all about and

1495
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: a personal.

1496
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: Trainer that's.

1497
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: It you, know you mentioned How Tom brady came To.

1498
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: Tampa maybe you were part of that reason because you

1499
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: obviously have a relationship with. Him you, were though a

1500
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: freshman on The michigan team when he was a. Senior

1501
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: what was The was there much of an interaction like

1502
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: then between you.

1503
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 12: TWO i MEAN i was on the scout team as

1504
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 12: a recher. FRESHMAN i MEAN i had much more daily

1505
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 12: interactions With Steve hutchinson And Jeff, bacchus who were who

1506
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 12: were beat me to death on the. Field but, YEAH

1507
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 12: i Mean tom was a great teammate. THEN i, remember you,

1508
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 12: know he would spend time with the freshman and eat

1509
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 12: dinner or eat meals with, us and you know he

1510
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 12: had that way about him back then, too you, know

1511
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 12: even before The Orange, bowl which he'd play that Great

1512
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 12: Orange bowl Against alabama where he led us back two

1513
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 12: different times from a fourteen point deficit and kind of

1514
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 12: like that was his you know swan song into THE. Nf,

1515
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 12: well that's just who he, is you, know it was

1516
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 12: who he was, then it is who he is. Now you,

1517
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 12: KNOW i WOULD i would Challenge tom to honestly answer

1518
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 12: that if he walked up to me In tampa without

1519
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 12: knowing WHO i, was that he could tell you WHO

1520
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 12: i was after those twenty years have. Passed i'm sure

1521
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 12: he would tell you that he did KNOW i WOULD

1522
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 12: i would be suspected that to say the.

1523
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 5: Least But i'm glad.

1524
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 12: That we've kind of reconnected our time In tampa and

1525
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 12: now In, vegas and you, know he's he's become a

1526
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 12: good friend but also a great resource for. Me and then,

1527
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 12: Listen i'm not sitting in the seat Because i'm friends

1528
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 12: With Tom. Brady it's not what he's. About to his,

1529
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 12: Core he's about football and winning football and being. Competitive

1530
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 12: and if you, know if you, don't if you're going

1531
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 12: to be on a team that he's a part of

1532
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 12: and you don't embody those, things you got no.

1533
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 4: Chance AND i love how that baries with your.

1534
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: Philosophy we've talked about it, Before, john and then also

1535
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: With pete's philosophy as.

1536
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 4: Well one thing we know About pete is he's going

1537
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 4: to want to run the.

1538
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: Ball he's going to want to be, Physical he's gonna

1539
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: want To you guys as a collective are going to

1540
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 3: want to kick some teeth in really former.

1541
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 4: LINEBACK i, mean my.

1542
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 3: Goodness so this run, game this offensive line in, combination you,

1543
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: know you guys have a lot of questions to, answer

1544
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of things to figure out

1545
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: with this front and with that run, game revitalizing, it

1546
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 3: bringing some juice back into. It what's your assessment of

1547
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 3: where you guys are at some young offensive linemen we

1548
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 3: kind of.

1549
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 12: Popped, yeah, YEAH i think that when you started going

1550
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 12: through the, roster when we first got to To, Vegas you're, like,

1551
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 12: oh we've got some we got some good young pieces

1552
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 12: here that we can really build upon and in a

1553
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 12: place where it's really critical and my belief and my

1554
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 12: success is really in this in this league to have,

1555
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 12: that and you, know we're going to keep churning through

1556
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 12: that till we have the right group, together because it's

1557
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 12: about having talented, guys but it's about the cohesion in the.

1558
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 12: Groups the best. Ones i've been a part of that

1559
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 12: group In tampa last. Year they just they kind of

1560
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 12: walk lockstep. Together they're kind of about the same, things

1561
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 12: they hang out. TOGETHER i mean that that is kind

1562
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 12: of one of those position groups where it really, matters

1563
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 12: and so you, know but we got a great foundation,

1564
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 12: there and we got a great foundation on THE d

1565
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 12: line too with With max And christian and you, Know

1566
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 12: Malcolm coons has done some good things and so you,

1567
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 12: know it's a great place to. Start but we do

1568
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 12: have a big challenge in front of, us so it's

1569
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 12: one that we're excited.

1570
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: About you Mentioned Malcolm, koon so that reminds me of

1571
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of free, agents especially on the defensive

1572
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: side of, all a lot of good PLAYERS i. GOT

1573
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: i put out a list of free agents that came,

1574
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: out AND i got a lot of people, saying, oh

1575
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: you should Have Dron morig even.

1576
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: Higher he is that good of a.

1577
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: Player, like what are your thoughts of him And kuon's

1578
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: especially kind of as you enter this free agent period

1579
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: knowing they might have interest.

1580
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 5: Elsewhere, YEAH i mean, It they're both are good young.

1581
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 12: Players you, Know kuon's obviously had the unfortunate injury last

1582
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 12: year that kind of that will cost him his entire

1583
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 12: season and just as he was starting to, Play so

1584
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 12: you know that'll be a factor and how we figure this.

1585
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 12: Out but certainly MORE i think it's taken took a

1586
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 12: big step forward last year with his play and And

1587
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 12: Patrick graham coming, Back it's going to be a familiar

1588
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 12: defense in a lot of. Ways Now pete's going to

1589
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 12: have some influence on it as. Well So i'm excited

1590
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 12: to see how it kind of manifests, itself and you,

1591
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 12: know how we fit our players in. There but, YEAH i,

1592
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 12: mean they're both good young, players and we just we

1593
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 12: don't want to be in the habit of letting good

1594
01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 12: young players leave leave the buildague.

1595
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 3: SKIS i, mean have you Watched pete And patrick collaborate,

1596
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 3: together BECAUSE i, Mean pete ran an iconic defense, OBVIOUSLY

1597
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 3: i Think Patrick gram's one of the best defensive, coordinators

1598
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: is one of the best coaches in THE. Nfl these

1599
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 3: schemes and these philosophies mirroring, TOGETHER i, MEAN i know

1600
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: you're dorking out over this internally every.

1601
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 12: Day, YEAH i unfortunately have so much to. DO i

1602
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 12: don't get to be in those meetings that. Much But

1603
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 12: peter to come up and just be, like, oh we

1604
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 12: had a great. Meeting oh there's so many good ideas up.

1605
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 12: There you go down to the whiteboard and it's things written,

1606
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 12: everywhere And i'm with. YOU i, Mean Pete's pete's resume

1607
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 12: and you know the defenses he built basically everywhere he's.

1608
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 12: Been but obviously everybody thinks Of. Seattle they speak for,

1609
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 12: themselves and you, Know patrick's done a great job. TOO

1610
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 12: i mean that was a really hard defense to. Crack

1611
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 12: last year we played him In tampa and they gave

1612
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 12: you everything you wanted and WITHOUT i, Mean max actually

1613
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 12: got injured in that game and finished the. Game and

1614
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 12: you know they're missing coons and they had some other injuries.

1615
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 12: Too So i'm excited to what becomes of. IT i

1616
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 12: hope that we can kind of like get through the

1617
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 12: draft AND i can be a part of those meetings

1618
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 12: a little bit. More BUT i hear all the great

1619
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 12: things AND i just haven't got to witness some first

1620
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 12: a little, bit little. Folmos i'm a little bit of

1621
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 12: a fumbo person.

1622
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: Too so that press conference That pete and you, had you,

1623
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: WERE i wouldn't have known that you guys had just

1624
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: got a met because it was like a buddy comedy.

1625
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: Deal like a lot of.

1626
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: Juice in that room Between Pete carroll and the defensive,

1627
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: coordinator a lot of jews on the field With Max. Crosby,

1628
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: obviously throughout the, year See long said he always wanted

1629
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: to be A, raider kind of backed off of that

1630
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: a little bit late last, season wanted to see what

1631
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: was happening with the. Organization are you Confident Max crosby

1632
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: is going to be part of this?

1633
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 12: Team, WELL i mean he's he's one of the great

1634
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 12: players in the. League and you, know he And i've

1635
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 12: had some really good conversations just getting to know each,

1636
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 12: other and you, KNOW i shared the vision of Where

1637
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 12: pete AND i really want to take this. Thing and you,

1638
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 12: know he wants to be a. CHAMPION i MEAN i

1639
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 12: respect that immensely about. Him and you know there's people

1640
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 12: that say, that and there's people that do that and

1641
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 12: live that, life and he's living it right. NOW i,

1642
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 12: MEAN i don't have anything to do With my family's

1643
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 12: still In, tampa saw anything to. Do so WHENEVER i wake,

1644
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 12: UP i just go in and there's always a really

1645
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 12: nice car parked in the, spot and he's, there and

1646
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 12: he's there late, too and so you, know, listen he,

1647
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 12: said you want to be a. Champion we want to

1648
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 12: make him a, champion and you know we're going to

1649
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 12: start from, there and that's a good place to.

1650
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: Start appreciate all the time, Today John spytech general. Manager second.

1651
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: Podcast he's ever done with this. Group he already Did

1652
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: playmakers With jordan Rod.

1653
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: Rigg your notice he got all his plugs, correct but

1654
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 4: missed the name of. Mine do you want to?

1655
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 5: Do want you to?

1656
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: Do the play? Call the play?

1657
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: Call there's been a lot Of playmakers conversation about the

1658
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: OLD espn show, lately so had that in my. Head

1659
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: which podcast was better, though Like jordan's or this? One

1660
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 1: that's your final.

1661
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 5: Question. Jordan's oh it was more in, depth in. Depth it's.

1662
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: True we only had ten minutes. Here appreciate the.

1663
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: Time, thanks thanks for having us all right here With James,

1664
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: gladstone the general manager of The Jacksonville.

1665
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: Jaguar holy. Cow how about?

1666
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: That like On friday they actually sent out a schedule

1667
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: of the combine and it said eleven thirty, Am JAGUARS

1668
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: Gmtbd and now here you, are just twenty four hours

1669
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 1: after meeting the local.

1670
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 8: Media welcome and what has this last week like been for?

1671
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 8: YOU i appreciate the op to sit down with you.

1672
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 8: Guys i'm a little disappointed THAT i didn't get how

1673
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 8: we do it?

1674
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: Right my?

1675
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: God the second podcast, Plug oh that's so. Cool James

1676
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 3: oh my.

1677
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 8: GOD a little, Disappointed but nonetheless it's been a great

1678
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 8: experience so. Far really getting to know our scouting and

1679
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 8: coaching staff over this stretch is going to be Something

1680
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 8: i'm really looking forward. To, obviously we haven't spent a

1681
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 8: ton of time, together and this is basically an off

1682
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 8: site for.

1683
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 5: Us we're already beginning the dialogue around.

1684
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 8: Our roster pro free, agency and you know through that

1685
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 8: a lot of connective tissue just comes to.

1686
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: Life, yeah you're part Of jordan's graduating class from from

1687
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: the Play, Callers john spytech guy who joined us.

1688
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: On the show and then.

1689
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 4: Lended personnel Die.

1690
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 3: Hard, yeah AND i love.

1691
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 8: It.

1692
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: James first of, all it's this must be crazy right for,

1693
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: you and you Know less's right hand director scouting for

1694
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 3: so many. Years overhauling that program In Los angeles goes

1695
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: back to back draft. CLASSES i was fortunate enough For

1696
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 3: james to be my tour guide of sorts through the

1697
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 3: scouting department last year and the processes THAT i know

1698
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 3: you would like to implement over time In. JACKSONVILLE i

1699
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 3: know you have big goals and big, dreams but where

1700
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: the heck do you?

1701
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 8: START i think it starts by calibrating to the current

1702
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 8: mode of operation In. Jacksonville all, Right so these guys

1703
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 8: have already teed it, up so to, speak And i'll

1704
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 8: calibrate to the way that they're operating as opposed to

1705
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 8: asking them to do that on a wider. Scale AND

1706
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 8: i think that'll allow us to just get in rhythm.

1707
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 8: Quicker it's going to be easier for one person to

1708
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 8: be agile than a larger.

1709
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 5: Group and then over time.

1710
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 8: We'll work in some specific efficiencies that will help us

1711
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 8: down the stretch here throughout the spring before ever doing

1712
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 8: more large scale.

1713
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: Shifts, yeah it's really interesting because you're coming into it

1714
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: a little late and later in the process than most general,

1715
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: manager even if even if it was like a month.

1716
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: Ago like, look you're right here at the combine when

1717
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: you think about tackling this. Roster obviously you must have

1718
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: spoken about a lot in your. Interviews where do you

1719
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: see the priorities on the roster of areas you want

1720
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: to work?

1721
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: On you know, WHAT i think we.

1722
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 8: Want to do our best job at every position to

1723
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 8: make it better and, better and so we're not going

1724
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 8: to look at any one position at this stage as

1725
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 8: needy more than the. Other SO i think we're going

1726
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 8: to keep an open mind in these conversations that we

1727
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 8: have this. Week see some of that surface just, organically

1728
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 8: AND i look forward to.

1729
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 3: THAT i liked what you said about it's easier for

1730
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 3: one person to be, agile and you said it in

1731
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: a voice That i'm very used to hearing in my.

1732
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 3: Ear that was a less, SISM i think a little.

1733
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: Bit but it's easier for one person to be agile

1734
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 3: than the. Collective AND i think that that's also a

1735
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: fact finding mission about the people you.

1736
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 4: Have, right how are you?

1737
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 3: BALANCING i, MEAN i know you have a bunch of

1738
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 3: data already from your own analysis of scouting of this

1739
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 3: last college, Class, right but how do you balance all

1740
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: of that data with the processes already in place and

1741
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: get to know people along the? Way like how do

1742
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 3: you connect with?

1743
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 4: People?

1744
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, okay so there's layers to, that, right, sure is.

1745
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 8: RIGHT i Think i'll go to your first, question and

1746
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 8: now i'll go to your second. QUESTION i think WHAT

1747
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 8: i tend to do IS i start from a place of,

1748
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 8: humility AND i think that by doing so and leveling with,

1749
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 8: people it garners you, know a mutual level.

1750
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 5: Of respect and. Trust by. DEFAULT i think.

1751
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 8: Beyond, that you, Know i'm only familiar with the way

1752
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 8: that we at THE rams had done, it and So

1753
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 8: i'm really really excited to just see a different way

1754
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 8: of moving about the. Process AND i am certain there

1755
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 8: are going to be cool things that surface throughout that

1756
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 8: THAT i had never thought of and want to carry.

1757
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 8: Forward so that's something That i'm really looking forward. To

1758
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 8: AND i just can't wait to get to know the

1759
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 8: staff on a deeper. Level AND i think a lot

1760
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 8: of these conversations that are happening right now are going

1761
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 8: to bring that into.

1762
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: Focus for our listeners who are are curious about your.

1763
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: BACKGROUND i didn't know until this this last week that you,

1764
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: were you, know coaching high school team In Saint.

1765
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: Louis that's how you first Met Les, snead that his

1766
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 2: son was on that.

1767
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: TEAM i happened to see his wife had a comment On,

1768
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: twitter uh just last, night AND i wanted to ask

1769
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: you about.

1770
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 8: It.

1771
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: Uh she said that you described yourself as an offensive

1772
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: lineman in a wide receiver's.

1773
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: Body can you can you just unpack that for? Us

1774
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: what does that mean?

1775
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 5: Mean you know? What that's that's? Interesting all?

1776
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 4: Right so she kind of blew up your spottle WAS

1777
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 4: i was, like what does that?

1778
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: Mean oh, Wait i'm going to talk to him.

1779
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 5: Tomorrow SO i think through, that, RIGHT i.

1780
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 8: Was my dad was a second generation high school teacher

1781
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 8: and football, coach and, so, UH i grew up in

1782
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 8: the halls of what would you, know eventually become my

1783
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 8: my high school and the first place out of college

1784
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 8: THAT i would. WORK i grew up in those locker

1785
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 8: rooms on the. Sidelines my dad raised me through the

1786
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 8: sport of football through his likeness and that was an

1787
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 8: offensive lineman and really the idea of collective effort and

1788
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 8: being bigger than any one. Individual that's where football captured my.

1789
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 8: Heart and so that's WHAT i, mean, right the idea

1790
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 8: of it's not about you as much as.

1791
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: It is the.

1792
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 8: Whole and so that's WHY i, say you, know more

1793
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 8: rooted in the service, oriented don't need the credit offensive line,

1794
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 8: mindset whereas you, know wide receivers are a little bit

1795
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 8: more forward.

1796
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 5: Facing they put the ball across the goal line and that's.

1797
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 3: Important you, Know, James you're gonna hate this Because i'm

1798
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 3: going to give you a. Compliment but the teaching mentality

1799
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 3: in the background as an, educator as an explainer of.

1800
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: THINGS i know it was a long long time, ago

1801
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 3: but those fundamentals and those core principles you carried that

1802
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: with you into the reshaping and the progressive evolution of

1803
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 3: the ramzone draft. Process what are those fundamentals to you

1804
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 3: leaning to a, collective what the goal, is how to

1805
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 3: achieve that goal and bring people with you in that.

1806
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 8: Explanation, yeah you, KNOW i think football is a complex

1807
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 8: system with a lot of moving.

1808
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 5: Parts so we're going to focus on some fundamental elements

1809
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 5: and execute those exceptionally. Well AND i think that helps you.

1810
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 5: Know IF i dove in a little bit just to, storytell.

1811
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah this is.

1812
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 4: Therapy no one's.

1813
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 3: Listening.

1814
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: Science, yes very in depth.

1815
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 3: QUESTIONS i used to tease, You, james Because i'd be,

1816
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: like you just, wait once you get the big, Job

1817
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 3: i'm finally going to get to talk to you in.

1818
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 8: PUBLISHED i appreciate you trying, to you, know turn on the,

1819
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 8: light so to. Speak but, nonetheless WHEN i was a,

1820
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 8: TEACHER i knew from a young age that that's WHAT

1821
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 8: i wanted to. Pursue i'd see my grandfather do, It

1822
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 8: i'd see my dad do.

1823
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 5: It they had.

1824
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 8: Success SO i had a road map for success and

1825
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 8: then putting my own spin on. It and so WHEN

1826
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 8: i decided to pivot only three years into that, profession

1827
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 8: after having from a young age the idea THAT i

1828
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,839
Speaker 8: was going to embark on that for my life's, journey

1829
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 8: it was a little bit of a. Shock AND i

1830
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 8: went from being a, teacher somebody who identifies strengths and

1831
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 8: weaknesses and an individual and then.

1832
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 5: Helps that individual address those and.

1833
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,879
Speaker 8: Grow WHEN i got into then the lens of, scouting

1834
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 8: you're still addressing or, highlighting identifying those strengths.

1835
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 5: And, weaknesses but you're not a part of the.

1836
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 8: Growth and so initially that was a void THAT i

1837
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 8: had not filled after making a, transition and over TIME

1838
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 8: i started to shape the idea of scouting around, well

1839
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 8: here's strengths and weaknesses within a, profile here's strengths and

1840
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 8: weaknesses within another, profile or within a larger collective group

1841
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 8: or a side of the ball or a, team and

1842
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 8: pairing those together is WHERE i filled that. Void so

1843
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 8: that's my way of helping others that are playing for

1844
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 8: us grow by being paired with those who highlight them.

1845
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 5: In the most you, know complementary.

1846
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Way AND i LOVE i love, that AND i love

1847
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: the the offensive lineman mindset as, well and yet we

1848
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: do know some some players are more. Important then There's

1849
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Trevor lawrence is obviously front and center of this for this.

1850
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: Organization what how do you look at like your role

1851
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: in trying to help him out kind of be be

1852
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: the Best Trevor lawrence that that we've seen so.

1853
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 8: Far, YEAH i don't think we've seen the best Of,

1854
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 8: trevor AND i really look forward to seeing him within

1855
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 8: the scheme That liam brings to. Life AND i think

1856
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 8: that the multiplicity that he offers within the, scheme the

1857
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 8: variety of really the run game and the screen, game

1858
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 8: it's going to give this team a notable edge And

1859
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 8: trevor's gonna feel the benefits of. That, now beyond, that

1860
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 8: in terms of, PERSONNEL i think interior offensive line is

1861
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 8: something that helps a quarterback out. Significantly being able to

1862
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 8: step into your throws is gonna just bring success and

1863
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 8: and really bring. Confidence and SO i think beyond, that

1864
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 8: obviously you're always going to want to give him some

1865
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 8: weapons and continue to keep that that. Deep but, yeah

1866
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 8: we look forward here down the stretch to address some

1867
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 8: of these.

1868
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 3: Things what did you guys say about the line when

1869
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 3: you were looking. For As Taylor morton would, say it

1870
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 3: sometimes too, big strong and.

1871
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 8: Tough, YEAH i would say one of the things THAT

1872
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 8: i probably carry with, me and this is at every.

1873
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 8: POSITION i probably have some version of a, slogan but

1874
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 8: it's getting the, way stay in the.

1875
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: Way if you can do, that you're built to be A.

1876
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: Jaguar it is an exciting off. Season jaguars fans deserve.

1877
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: It some of the most loyal fans in the entire.

1878
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: Business AND i think it's going to be a, fun

1879
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,879
Speaker 1: additive off. Season the Ad Lion, cohen they add yourself

1880
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: and not a lot of key free agents and so

1881
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: and draft. Picks, yeah a lot of draft. Picks so

1882
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: look for The jaguars team to be a lot. Different

1883
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: what do you want to say there about for now

1884
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna add or some Tra i'll tell.

1885
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 2: You i'll tell you.

1886
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 3: Less sneed said said that every year he'd walk off

1887
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 3: the lectern and go this many picks and they need

1888
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: go for? Now.

1889
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah if you do take anything From lestie and

1890
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: we can expect some, trades some wheeling and.

1891
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 2: Dealing really appreciate the, Time, James thank you guys very.

1892
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 5: Much it was a.

1893
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Joy, congratulations appreciate. It really enjoyed both those. INTERVIEWS i had.

1894
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: The best time talking with those guys with. YOU I,

1895
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 3: okay later this, week you're gonna hear A john Spy

1896
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 3: tech story From Jason. Light that dude's kind of a.

1897
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: BADASS i, mean it's there's some there's some fire There

1898
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 3: Pete carroll and. HIM i think you're gonna make a

1899
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: pretty pretty cool.

1900
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: Team vibes, Wise raiders Win. Tuesday, yeah If i'm ranking

1901
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: the combination OF Gm vibe With Coach vibe just in

1902
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: terms of kind of cool and just, like, OH I

1903
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: i'd like to hang out with those, guys but also

1904
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: Like i'm glad they're running my favorite team and they're

1905
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: kind of an odd, couple but they make sense.

1906
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: Together, yeah Spy tech and Care i'll sign me up for.

1907
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 9: That.

1908
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: SIcom i'm excited for this generation in this era Of raiders,

1909
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: football AND i am excited about what's new In. Jacksonville

1910
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely, yeah very much feels like just a brand

1911
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: new era and they're attacking things a little differently and

1912
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: hopefully just are kind of getting a feel of what

1913
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: these guys are actually. Like and it's very cool that

1914
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: you know between you know the Play callers series and

1915
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: then you, Know james there was a fan of your

1916
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: your old The Loven PERSONNEL rams. Podcast it's just Like

1917
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: jordan Just s has like all these guys all around the.

1918
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: League they're coming up.

1919
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 3: This this totally disarmed, Me, GREG i MEAN i really was.

1920
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 3: THROUGH i almost fell out of the chair when he

1921
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 3: said he brought up the old intro to my very

1922
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: beloved little little, show A Loven personnel podcast that covered

1923
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 3: The rams and that he did the drop the intro

1924
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 3: drop to, it AND i almost fell out of the.

1925
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 3: CHAIR i was, like you, know how PREPARED i am

1926
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 3: for this? Stuff And aunt, Like i'm just AND i

1927
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 3: was like, TOTALLY i didn't even remember WHAT i was

1928
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 3: gonna ask. Him it was very, Nice it was. Awesome

1929
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 3: it's a nice. Thing AND i love talking to those two.

1930
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 3: Guys and as you've mentioned a million, times, yeah you'll

1931
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 3: hear some more interviews throughout the. Week so that was

1932
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: forty seven things we learned at The Scouting combine On. Tuesday,

1933
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 3: now not nearly as many people are speaking On. Wednesday

1934
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 3: it's in the single. Digits so what should we what

1935
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 3: should we?

1936
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Guess for the?

1937
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Number some news will come, out Though i'm gonna say

1938
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: it at. Seventeen things will learn, tomorrow how about.

1939
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 3: That So i'm gonna hit the over on that BECAUSE

1940
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 3: i know.

1941
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: You, okay we'll. See it'll be around seventeen to twenty.

1942
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: Three we'll hear some from some. Interviews we're not done

1943
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: here at the Scouting. Combine but it was a Great.

1944
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: TUESDAY i gotta, say, Man i'm gonna have to ask

1945
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: for a judgment calledgue football is it? Back because it

1946
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: kind of felt like the twenty five, Season like we're

1947
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: talking the season.

1948
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: Is almost. Here do we think it's?

1949
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Speaker 3: Back football is so pricking?

1950
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Speaker 2: Bad oh my, god it's. Over gregular. SEASON i guess is.

1951
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: Over football is. Back we will see If wednesday m

1952
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Speaker 11: Hm