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Speaker 1: Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Mart Weis just told you that Panthers are trying to

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Speaker 2: make this thing a game. The Rams have done everything

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Speaker 2: butt blow them out in the first half seventeen fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Now as we get near the end of the first

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Speaker 2: half in a wildcard matchup, and sure, usually that's where

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Speaker 2: we start. That's what everything we would have to talk

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Speaker 2: But not today, No, not today, because it's bucking fits

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Speaker 2: and last night my co host Buck Rising was there

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Speaker 2: to see it in person. My co host Buck Rising,

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Speaker 2: the Indiana grad, was in the stadium to watch Indiana football.

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Speaker 2: Much like Mark Cuban, he didn't go to the games

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Speaker 2: when he was there, but now backing them one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Last night's thorough ass whooping from Indiana, where they reminded

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Speaker 2: everybody that they are clearly the number one team in

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Speaker 2: the land, was covered, by, viewed, by partied by none

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Speaker 2: other than Buck Rising. How you feel it today, brother?

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Speaker 2: You are we still on one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I well, I'm certainly riding the high of my first

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Speaker 3: Indiana football experience, because, my god, it's good to know

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Speaker 3: that Mark Cuban is also somebody who probably at some

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Speaker 3: point in his collegiate career at Indiana University, had one

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Speaker 3: of those T shirts that read game time is nap time. Well,

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Speaker 3: game time is no longer nap time, because that was

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Speaker 3: absolutely electric at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta last night.

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Speaker 3: It was a total Indiana takeover. Oregon did what they could,

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Speaker 3: but they couldn't do much, Fitzi. It was a pick

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Speaker 3: six on the first play of the game, on the

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Speaker 3: first possession of the game for Oregon. It turned the

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Speaker 3: place into a madhouse. Fifty six to twenty two. Indiana

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Speaker 3: beating down Oregon, beating down Alabama, now coming to beat

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Speaker 3: down Miami at home in the National Championship. I am

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Speaker 3: doing everything within my limited capabilities to be in attendance

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Speaker 3: for that National Championship game. But yeah, if there was

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Speaker 3: ever a time for me to jump on this bandwagon, FITZI,

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Speaker 3: now is the time that was sick.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned the difficulty in being in attendance.

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Speaker 2: Yahoo Sports, where by the way, you can see me

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Speaker 2: Monday through Friday in the mornings. Yahoo tweeted out today

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Speaker 2: that the cheapest get in price right now after market

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Speaker 2: is three eleven dollars for the nosebleeds. We are talking

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Speaker 2: super Bowl level pricing because frankly, this is I would argue,

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Speaker 2: the most exciting, at least most anticipated. This is sort

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Speaker 2: of the wildest college football championship game we've had in

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Speaker 2: a long time, simply because it's in Miami, which is

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Speaker 2: already going to make things difficult for Miami making their

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Speaker 2: first championship game in appearance in twenty whatever years against

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Speaker 2: in Indiana school that I will remind everybody may not

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Speaker 2: know this fun fact there is no college in America

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Speaker 2: that has more living alumni than Indiana University. So you

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Speaker 2: are talking about a massive group of people that have

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Speaker 2: never seen their team play for a national championship with

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Speaker 2: a quarterback that's a Heisman winner from Miami going back

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Speaker 2: to the school that's a block from where he went

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Speaker 2: to high school while he takes on Miami, Like, you

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Speaker 2: can't write this level of anticipation for a college football

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Speaker 2: national championship game. And you've got, you know, easily and

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Speaker 2: the most electric offense in college football at this point,

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Speaker 2: it's just you stack all of these bricks, and this

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Speaker 2: one feels different, Buck, because it's not Alabama, it's not Georgia,

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Speaker 2: it's not any of the brands we're used to. It's

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Speaker 3: And the best part of it is that Miami the

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Speaker 3: football power historically. Even though to your point, this is

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Speaker 3: their first championship game in twenty years, it's the most important.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hell, this past game against Ole Miss was

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Speaker 3: the most important game that they've played in twenty years,

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Speaker 3: and that was a roller coaster ride. You and I

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Speaker 3: haven't had the opportunity to talk about that game. Going

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Speaker 3: back to the eternity that was Thursday, it feels like

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Speaker 3: one hundred years ago as we have playoff football, both

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Speaker 3: did pucniko? He looks shook shook up. At the end

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Speaker 3: he got pushed down by the defensive back after the play,

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Speaker 3: I'm surprise I didn't call that penalty. But speaking of

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Speaker 3: things that were not called a penalty, many Old Miss

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Speaker 3: fans feeling the same about a defensive pass interference situation

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Speaker 3: that was not called at the end of the game,

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Speaker 3: that maybe they just don't make those calls in that

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Speaker 3: end of the game, Like, please, I understand that that

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Speaker 3: might indeed be the case. I'm willing to hear your explanations. Please,

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Speaker 2: I hate it so much because this is what happened,

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Speaker 2: like inevitably. This is why I am consistent. I've been

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Speaker 2: consistent in this, and people hate my opinion every single

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Speaker 2: time on both sides. If your answer is can't make

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Speaker 2: have to make that call there. What I don't want

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Speaker 2: then saying, well, I don't want to make this situation

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Speaker 2: also whether you should swallow the whistle and not make

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Speaker 2: the end of the game on that one missed call.

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Speaker 2: This is just a reminder to every single idiot that

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Speaker 2: in the last two minutes, shut up. Referee should just

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Speaker 2: time on the clock dictate whether or not something's of foul.

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Speaker 3: Well and FITZI, it's it's a completely fair point by you.

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Speaker 3: But like they've got they've got players conditioned to think

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Speaker 3: get at the end of the game. That was the

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Speaker 3: frankly Miami was the better team the whole way through.

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Speaker 3: Nobody would dispute this, right like, nobody looked at that game,

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Speaker 3: ridiculous things like having next year's offensive coordinator who was

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Speaker 3: assistance in various capacities, position coaches and otherwise not on

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Speaker 3: again is the Cinderella ironically and all of this stuff

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Speaker 3: is the ten seed here, but it's just it's one

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Speaker 3: of the more For various reasons, this is as much

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Speaker 3: don't know if this is replicable one hundred times over

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Speaker 3: if you tried to put together a similar set of circumstances.

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Speaker 3: I just can't imagine how you would look at Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Kurtzignetti for Nando Mendoza, this ridiculous Indiana team, the way

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Speaker 3: where they've been and where they have cut, where they

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Speaker 3: won it yet, right, so it's not technically the mountaintop,

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Speaker 3: but they're in the game, and that's as important as

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Speaker 3: anything for anybody because to your point, about the largest

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Speaker 3: It's not just me and Mark Cuban like you don't

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Speaker 3: We could have been a football school the entire time.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is fun. And the peach ball

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Speaker 3: Miami has been in its past and their unwillingness before

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Speaker 3: It's one of the things that I think he's done

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Speaker 3: Let them have their thing, but let them appreciate us. Now.

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Speaker 3: It's no longer about the U in the eighties. This

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Speaker 3: It's bully ball, just the way that Mario Christobal has

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Speaker 3: It's awesome. Think about this.

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Speaker 2: He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitzbuck and Fits on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Miami has a shot at winning a national

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Speaker 2: of its spell self to me, speaks to the of

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Speaker 2: the few that's not planting a flag of why college

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Speaker 2: because more teams are involved than ever. And that's what

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: Think about a couple of years ago, how many people said,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, with the transfer portal and nil, the

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Speaker 2: rich are only gonna get richer. Okay, where are you now?

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Speaker 2: And then all the people that said, why are we

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna have to sit there blowouts. A ten

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Speaker 2: one seed Indiana for a national championship. That's why if

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Speaker 2: you're wrong. Like this year flat out has proven again.

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Speaker 3: He tried to make a play with it. He ends up,

434
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Speaker 3: you know, gotten behind the line of scrimmage. But still

435
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: the guy, the guy just sees things clearly, and his

436
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Speaker 3: ability to navigate these adverse circumstances no matter who the

437
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Speaker 3: opposition has been through this postseason. I just I can't

438
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 3: say enough good things about him.

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Speaker 2: As field Yates points out, Banana, Mendoza took on two

440
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Speaker 2: top nine pass defenses in the playoffs. For all the

441
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: success that he's had in the last couple of the

442
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Speaker 2: games in the playoffs, and also five times this season,

443
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza has had more touchdown passes than incompletions, including

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Speaker 2: both playoff games. So the better the opponent, he's still

445
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: tearing it up. In fairness, I have been watching Fernando

446
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: all year. I'm lucky enough at Yahoo to work with

447
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: Nate Tye and Nate Tice months ago, coming into the

448
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: summer said I believe the top quarterbacks selected is going

449
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Speaker 2: to be Fernando Mendoza, And because of that, I've been

450
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Speaker 2: watching Fernando all year. But I do think it's been

451
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Speaker 2: fair to say, Okay, what can you really take away

452
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Speaker 2: when Indiana's just better and better coach than everybody as

453
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Speaker 2: we get into this level of competition, it's clear. That

454
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Speaker 2: means that it's clear to me there is one thing,

455
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Speaker 2: though everybody seems to be just jumping over with this

456
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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza analysis, that I think Buck is going to

457
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Speaker 2: have really interesting perspective on It's how we view quarterbacks

458
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Speaker 2: taken first overall. We'll tell you about it, but first, Martin,

459
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Speaker 2: get us caught up on the scoreboard. What is going on,

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Speaker 2: my friend?

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Speaker 6: Speaking of quarterbacks taken first overall, we got a matchup

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Speaker 6: of two of them in the first game of the

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Speaker 6: NFL playoffs nine and it's left in the third quarter.

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Speaker 7: The Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 6: For the ball driving down the field, but they are

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Speaker 6: trailing seventeen to fourteen.

467
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Speaker 7: Right now is the score?

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Speaker 6: Bryce Young with the ball there about at the forty

469
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Speaker 6: up there at their thirty six yard line. Here Bryce

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Speaker 6: Shong with thirteen completion's, fourteen attempts, one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 6: four yards and an interception. Schubert Hubbard has a rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Bryce Young also with a rushing touchdown, a sixteen yarder

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Speaker 6: in the second quarter. Matthew Stafford started the game out.

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Speaker 6: He didn't throw an incomplete pass until his ninth Now

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Speaker 6: he's ten for twenty one thirty seven through the year,

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Speaker 6: and a touchdown pass to Pokinakua and Pukin also adds

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Speaker 6: a rushing touchdown. Harrison Meves with a Fueld goal as well.

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Speaker 6: Now in men's.

479
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Speaker 7: College basketball, we had a couple upsets.

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Speaker 6: We had a Wisconsin beat number two ring Michigan ninety

481
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Speaker 6: one to eighty eight, Michigan's first loss of the year.

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Speaker 6: Florida beat twenty first ranked Tennessee ninety one to sixty seven.

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Speaker 6: In West Virginia beat twenty second Ran Kensas eighty six

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Speaker 6: to seventy five. News Matt Ryan's been named the Falcons

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Speaker 6: president of football. It's a new position that the GM

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Speaker 6: and head coach will report to Washington. Commanders have named

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Speaker 6: David Blouse their new offensive coordinator. The Chargers respect Omari

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Speaker 6: and Hampton running back to play Vincent. Patriots and the

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Speaker 6: Dolphins interviewed Seahawks offensive coordator Clinton Kubiak on Saturday for

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Speaker 6: its vacant head coaching position.

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Speaker 7: Bell it's just fourth down.

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Speaker 6: Ryan Fitzgerald is lining up for a forty six yard

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Speaker 6: field goal attempt right now, with seven minutes and thirty

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Speaker 6: seconds or so left in the third quarter.

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Speaker 7: We'll see if it's good or not.

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Speaker 3: Right about.

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Speaker 6: That, looks like it's going to go through the upright

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Speaker 6: seventeen a piece right now, Rams and Panthers all tied

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Speaker 6: up fellas back to you.

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Speaker 2: He's Bug Rising. I'm Jason fitzbuckin Fits on Fox Sports Radio.

501
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Speaker 2: So last night after Indiana One, I was I was

502
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Speaker 2: scouring Twitter and I was out there, you know, just

503
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Speaker 2: celebrating the fact that I've now fallen deeply in love

504
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Speaker 2: with Fernando Mendozo is the quarterback of my favorite team.

505
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Speaker 2: Only to see analysis from I think some smart people,

506
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Speaker 2: and this is where fans are immediately just coming at

507
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Speaker 2: everybody that has a negative for Nando Mendoza, take Raiders

508
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Speaker 2: fans particularly, which is why I was excited to talk

509
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Speaker 2: to Buck today because I went to Twitter and I

510
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: said this earlier today and I'll paraphrase here, But no

511
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Speaker 2: one knows. Like, if anybody knew that Mahomes or Lamar

512
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: or Josh Allen we're gonna be who they turned out

513
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: to be, every single team in the NFL would have

514
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Speaker 2: offered five years with the draft picks to move up

515
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Speaker 2: and get them. Let's be honest, nobody knows. And that

516
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: means like and also nobody's gonna know anytime soon now,

517
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Speaker 2: Like right now, you're gonna see a bunch of people

518
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Speaker 2: that have differing opinions on Fernando Mendoza, who cares at

519
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: the end of the day, who cares what everybody analyzing thinks.

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Speaker 2: If you want Fernando Mendoza to be hope for your

521
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: favorite football team, allow him to be, because nobody's gonna

522
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Speaker 2: know until he gets drafted and then gets in camp

523
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: and then gets on a team, and then it takes

524
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Speaker 2: two or three years of being on the field. Remember

525
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: people wanted to call Caleble bust, and now everybody loves

526
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: Caleb like. It takes years to figure all of this out.

527
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: So everybody has opinions. But just because people don't like

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Speaker 2: the quarterback doesn't mean that they are hating. And I've

529
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: seen a lot of this on Twitter where everybody's say no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a discourse like this about a first

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Speaker 2: overall quarterback where people are saying, Oh, he's not worth it,

532
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Speaker 2: he's a bum, or he's not good enough, or trade

533
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Speaker 2: out of the pick because you don't have the infrastructure

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Speaker 2: to support it. Buck you cover the Titans. I feel

535
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Speaker 2: like these are the exact same things I heard a

536
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Speaker 2: year ago when I was talking to you about the Titans,

537
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Speaker 2: and everybody wanted to sit there and find negatives around

538
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Speaker 2: cam Ward. I guess my thing is, like, why do

539
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Speaker 2: we care at the end of the day if your

540
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: favorite team's gonna go draft a quarterback right now? Everybody

541
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Speaker 2: telling you that quarterback isn't good enough. It's the grown

542
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: up equivalent of my dad, get beat up your dad.

543
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: Nobody has any damn clue. So, like, why are we

544
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: so worked up about anybody that turns around and says

545
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Speaker 2: cam Ward's not the answer when he's being drafted by

546
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Speaker 2: the Titans or Fernando's and Mendoza's not the end when

547
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: he's being drafted by the Raiders. Like, who cares if

548
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: they're right? If the haters are right, in a couple

549
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: of years, there's egg on everybody's face and you're going

550
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: back to the draft. You don't want to deal with it.

551
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: If the haters are wrong, in a couple of years,

552
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 2: you have your franchise quarterback. I just think all of

553
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 2: the opinions right now just don't matter.

554
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you know whose fault this is. It's the NFL.

555
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: It's the way that they've turned the draft into a

556
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: bit of a circus. This way, it's the way that

557
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: they that you know, have conditioned us all and listen,

558
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: it's still the most important position in sports. Nobody's disputing that.

559
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 3: But it is a game that is the ultimate team sport,

560
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: and we have been conditioned to think that one guy

561
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Speaker 3: is going to be able to come in and fix everything.

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Speaker 3: Become a franchise quarterback, right, franchise quarterback is something that

563
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: would I think indicate to most fans eight to ten

564
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: years of stability, when in in modern football, how often

565
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: do you actually see that turnout the way that we

566
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: think it's supposed to in our heads. We have manufactured

567
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Speaker 3: this idea in our heads about how we talk about

568
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Speaker 3: game changing players in this sport and what actually changes

569
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Speaker 3: the game versus what is an important quality to have

570
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: as a building blocks, a foundational piece, because it's not

571
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: an individual sport, it's the team sport. The Super Bowl

572
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: continues to prove to you why it is more important

573
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Speaker 3: to have the better team than the better collection of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to say the better collection

575
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Speaker 3: of individual players because that would indicate the better team.

576
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Speaker 3: But you understand what I'm saying, mahomes versus the better team.

577
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: The better team's gonna win, the better team's gonna kick

578
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: his ass. That's what happens in this sport. Okay, so

579
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Speaker 3: you can look at these things and talk about franchise

580
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks in an outsized way that makes you think that

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Speaker 3: this guy has to be perfect in every stretch of

582
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Speaker 3: the imagination, and otherwise he's not good enough to turn

583
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: your franchise around, when in reality, the thing that turns

584
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: your franchise around the is the meat of the draft.

585
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: It's days two and three and how you build around

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Speaker 3: that quarterback that you've brought in cam Ward, for example,

587
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: in Tennessee, they had to find ways to replace skill

588
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: talent on this team in Tennessee. Organically they did it

589
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: with three fourth round picks this year that ended up

590
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Speaker 3: having to play a ton of football, entirely more football

591
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Speaker 3: than any of them should have to play in their

592
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: first season around cam Ord. The situation in Tennessee was

593
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: bad when he got here. It's going to continue to

594
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 3: be bad until they figure out how to get this

595
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 3: thing up off the mat. But in so doing, in

596
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: this year, you discovered that, oh, you might have functional

597
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: wide receivers as twos, as threes, potentially as fours, and

598
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: maybe you've even got a starting tight end in the mix. Okay,

599
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: there's my foundation a round the franchise quarterback. Now, allow

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Speaker 3: me to focus on the defensive side of the ball

601
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: to get him just additional opportunities to be able to score,

602
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: to get him off the field, or to get him

603
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: onto the field to get the defense off the field

604
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: because they don't have a pass rust, that don't have corners, right.

605
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: But you can't fix all this stuff in one off season.

606
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: So when you talk about the guys that change the franchise,

607
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: you're really talking about your front office first and foremost,

608
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Speaker 3: and the strategy that they take to implementing the change

609
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Speaker 3: around these players to make the quarterback a cog, yes,

610
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Speaker 3: but the highest functioning cog in your machine.

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Speaker 1: He's still a part of the machine.

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Speaker 2: And I think all of this comes back to it

613
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: really well said by you that this is a long

614
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Speaker 2: journey for anybody that's picking first overall. You and I

615
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: talked about this. I'll continue to mention it. No quarterback

616
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Speaker 2: selected first overall since two thousand has had a winning

617
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Speaker 2: season in his rookie year as a starter his rookie year,

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Speaker 2: He's never had a winning record, I should say, other

619
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Speaker 2: than Andrew Luck that's the only ones if since two

620
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: thousand that's had a winning year as a starter in

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Speaker 2: their first year. It just doesn't happen. So when you

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Speaker 2: draft first overall, your team sucks and no one player

623
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Speaker 2: is going to fix it. It's just a building block process.

624
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: And I think part of the reason that I am

625
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: passionate about taking the quarterback is Number One, you have

626
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: to take as many stabs at the apple as you can.

627
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: You take as many swings as you can. If you

628
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: get it wrong, you're just going to keep going back

629
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Speaker 2: to it, but you have to take those swings. Number Two,

630
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Speaker 2: it's an important building block that when you're in that position,

631
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: and I will down the hill, you don't know if

632
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: you're going to be able to outsuck the rest of

633
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: the NFL next year. So for everybody that says, wait

634
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: and get a quarterback next year, all right, well again,

635
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: I will remind you that a three win Jets team

636
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: might be left out of the quarterback carousel this year,

637
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Speaker 2: a three win Cardinals team, I think the Cardinals ended

638
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: with three whatever they entered with four or five win

639
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: teams are being left out of the playoff or the

640
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: quarterback conversation because they're not selecting high enough. You never

641
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: know how manyquarterbacks are gonna come out how many are

642
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: going to stay in college, who's gonna take the ni

643
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: L money, How you're going to have an actual path

644
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: to it if you're gonna have the ammunition to get up.

645
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: So when you have a shot at one, I think

646
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: you take that shot. Which is why last year when

647
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: we were talking about cam Ward continually said, does it

648
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: really matter if cam Ward is as good as Caleb

649
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Speaker 2: in the eyes of many as a number one overall?

650
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Speaker 2: Pick no, because you're not making that choice. You're not

651
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: choosing between cam Ward and Caleb. You're choosing between cam

652
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: Ward and whatever the hell you think your quarterback position

653
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: is gonna be this year. Malik Willis is by far

654
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: the best of the free agent quarterbacks are going to

655
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: be available this offseason. The rest of them legend. I mean,

656
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Speaker 2: you're talking about Jimmy g So like the question, isn't

657
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: am I taking a quarterback first overall? You know, based

658
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: on what other first overall quarterbacks are like that? That's

659
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: just that is the biggest, just pile of nonsense, because

660
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: everybody's sitting in front of a mic that says, well, wait,

661
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: next year, my god, the GM might not be around

662
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: next year, the coach might not be around next year.

663
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: The team president might not be around next year. Your

664
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: whole team might look different in a year. In fact,

665
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: how we thought about Washington a year agoes much different

666
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: than how we think about Washington a year right right now,

667
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: right like the way your whole team might be valued

668
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: is different in a year. Like the NFL doesn't give

669
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: you the grace of saying, you know what, we'll just

670
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: take the best player available and we'll get ourselves at

671
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: quarterback next year. I just I don't think that that's

672
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: applicable when you are picking number one overall and there

673
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: is somebody there that is worthy of picking first overall.

674
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: If if your organization just feels like the quarterbacks a bomb,

675
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: then don't take him. That's fine, I don't care. But

676
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: if your if your organization feels like he's worth it,

677
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: you have to take him when you pick first overall.

678
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Speaker 3: We're keeping an eye on the wild card, the start

679
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: of Wildcard weekend, by the way, which you can watch

680
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: on Fox between the Rams and the Panthers, a tie

681
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: game right now, Rams driving at this point in time

682
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. It's it's gonna be a fun

683
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 3: weekend of wildcard football. Fitsie, and I know We're going

684
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: to talk about it throughout the course of the show.

685
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: This price young performance though it's I know, you know,

686
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: a lot of football left to be played six minutes

687
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: and change left and the third quarter. But we've got

688
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: ourselves a ballgame. And what was the biggest points spread

689
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: difference between two teams of the first round?

690
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: And Matt Stafford is now holding his hand his throwing hand.

691
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: We will keep an eye on that. We'll get you

692
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: updated on what's happening in this game. Plus the Game

693
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Speaker 2: of the Century Millennium Week is happening tonight in Chicago.

694
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Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm

695
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: Jason Fitzbuck and fits on Fox Sports Radio.

696
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

697
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Speaker 2: That's a fight song I've never heard, so it must

698
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Speaker 2: be Indiana's. Be sure to subscribe to the Fox Sports

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700
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701
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: stop there. Hit that thumbs up bike on comming away.

702
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Speaker 3: Let us know who's take you like, Indiana or Indiana. Indiana,

703
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Speaker 3: We're all for you, beautiful.

704
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Speaker 2: Let let let the let buck know what you think

705
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Speaker 2: of his singing boy he's just search Fox Sports Radio

706
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: on YouTube subscribe. Why does every fight song like? So

707
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Speaker 2: we did this for one of the March Madness things

708
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Speaker 2: when I was back at the.

709
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Speaker 3: Don't you say anything nasty about this fight song? No?

710
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's fine. But we were doing this. You know,

711
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: they do the bracketology sign up things at ESPN said

712
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: they do twenty four straight hours of you got to

713
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Speaker 2: be on these shows for brackets. So I got like

714
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Speaker 2: the three am pool because nobody knew who I was

715
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: and cared, see you're sitting and I ended up but

716
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: like it was me and Sarah Spain and a few

717
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: other people at like three in the morning, and the

718
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: producers came in and said, why don't you bring your

719
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: fiddle in and just play different fight songs and will

720
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: identify them. And I was like, that's fine easy. I

721
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: sat down like two days before and I was like,

722
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: all right, I'll learn ten fight songs. They're all the same,

723
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: like you think it, like you sit there and you're like,

724
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, trying to remember the difference between this

725
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: one and that one and that, Like they're.

726
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: All the same.

727
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 7: So you know, I'm out.

728
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Speaker 2: I'm out on fight songs.

729
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 3: But just generally no, they're fine.

730
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Speaker 2: They're fine. They're just all the same. So like, just

731
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 2: don't don't don't make it sound like yours is really

732
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: all that great when it's basically two notes different than

733
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: everybody else's. There's all it's, you know.

734
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean I feel this way about like

735
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: Fly Eagles Fly, and you know, the Miami Dolphins touchdown

736
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: song and all these different things, Like it's kind of

737
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: like a.

738
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah some of them, some of them are all right.

739
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: Like the Titans play Damn and listen. I love Johnny Cash,

740
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: but the Tennessee Titans every time they score a touchdown,

741
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Speaker 3: which is not very often in the last couple of years,

742
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: but every time they score a touchdown they play Damn

743
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: Ring of Fire by Johnny Cash. It is the worst

744
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: touchdown song of all time. It's kind of sleepy, to

745
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: be honest with you. And I know that they just

746
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: fired their like end game, you know, experienced person. So

747
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: maybe please, maybe God, change the touchdown song at the

748
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: very least, if you're not going to change anything else

749
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Speaker 3: about what it is that you do on game days.

750
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Speaker 3: But there's a lot. I mean, I haven't got there.

751
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: You haven't either, But I haven't been to a Preds

752
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: game in a few years. I spent many years in

753
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: Nashville going to Pred's games, and I remember when they

754
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: took away Tim McGraw. I like it. I love it,

755
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: like they changed that one lyric. Don't know what it

756
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: is about the Predator score, but I like it like

757
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: and it was always so cheesy, and they took it away.

758
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: People revolted. I don't understand why, Like everybody needs.

759
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: They got read a Ring of Fire. People would be happy.

760
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: Ring a Fire is not a good touchdown song objectively, yeah.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. No now because of marketing and you know,

762
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: selling out. When I hear that commercial, I only think

763
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: of the hemorrhoids, right, hear that song, I only think

764
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: of the hemorrhoids commercial. Oh like his his family, it

765
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: took like you.

766
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Speaker 3: Know, I didn't know there was a commerce.

767
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: I am, oh my god, yea. So like Johnny Cash

768
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: was was pretty adamant in his lifetime from what I

769
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: understood or remembered about not selling the rights to his

770
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: songs to random things. And when he passed, it took

771
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: like six months before all of a sudden there was

772
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: a Ring of Fire hemorrhoids commercial. I was like, well,

773
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: the cash estates out there, you know, making that making

774
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: that money off of it. So that's all like, now,

775
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: that is all I ever think of when I hear

776
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Speaker 2: ring of fire.

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Speaker 3: So I've.

778
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Speaker 2: Twenty to seventeen at some point. Yeah, you just let

779
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: him know twenty to seventeen. The Rams have taken a lead.

780
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: This is a physical football game. Davante Adams went down,

781
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: went up to try and make a catch. It just

782
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 2: got drilled. I don't know how he got up from

783
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: that catch you mentioned earlier. Puka got rocked a couple

784
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: of times. Stafford's been holding his hand. You got Forbes

785
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: Junior on the sideline now trying to catch himself on

786
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: the defensive side. The Panthers with the ball. But this

787
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: is a this is a physical, hard fought football game.

788
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: And don't look now, the spread on this was over ten.

789
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: We convinced ourselves that Carolina was lucky to win the

790
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: first time these two teams played. But now here you sit,

791
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: and we're sitting on a Carolina team that is just

792
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: inches away. It feels like they are inches away time

793
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 2: and time again. On third and three, third and four,

794
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 2: they just can't quite convert. I don't know how Carolina

795
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: is still in this game. But Buck, they sit here,

796
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: and the longer you get into this thing at Carolina,

797
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: just remember we've seen teams with losing records winning the

798
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: playoffs before at home. So you know, all of a sudden,

799
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: everybody anointed the Rams the super Bowl bound. But my god,

800
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: this is getting a little it's get a little touch ago.

801
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bryce Young incomplete there on third down, so they

802
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: will punt away in the waning minutes.

803
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: Of No, sir, they will not. They will not know

804
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: they are going for it yet again. This is I

805
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: think the third time that they're going for it, and

806
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: Bryce runs around and throws the ball to absolutely nobody.

807
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: They have been going for it on fourth down and

808
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: it is not work for them. It did work for

809
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: them when they played last time. It is part of

810
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: what Carolina Panthers regularly do. They're not afraid to go

811
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: for it on fourth down. But man, for whatever reason,

812
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: it is not working out the way Carolina wants it

813
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: to work out. And Bryce had no choice but to

814
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: just throw the ball away and live to see another down.

815
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: That is not what anybody had in mind. That is

816
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: only one of the two games that we have as

817
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: we head into a wild weekend. When we come back,

818
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: wait to get you prepared for what should be an

819
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: absolute classic tonight between the Packers and the Bears. Of course,

820
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: all eyes will be on that matchup, one of the

821
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: greatest rivalries in all the sports, taking place tonight in

822
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: Chicago with everything on the line. Plus, even as we

823
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: get through the weekend, will some of the biggest names

824
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: in football be firing their head coaches too? We'll tell

825
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: you about it next.

826
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

827
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Speaker 2: If you let them stick around long enough, things get scary.

828
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: An interception from Stafford, a long completion. All of a sudden,

829
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Speaker 2: we got gold to gold situation for Carolina entering the

830
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: fourth quarter down by three, and this is really uncomfortable

831
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Speaker 2: if you're a Rams fan. Right now, that Carolina crowd

832
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: is pumping their first home playoff game in a decade.

833
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Cam was out beating the drum beforehand. This feels like

834
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: one of those transformative moments. This is why you know,

835
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: as much as we sit here and yell oh, you

836
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: can't give home field advantage to a team that loses.

837
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: There is so much weight to winning your division in

838
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs. This game being in Carolina. We thought

839
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: they couldn't do it again, Buck, I don't know. When

840
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: you went to the fourth quarter of this thing and

841
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: Stafford throws the rare interception, you are giving belief to

842
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: the little engine that could, and that little engine is Carolina. Yeah.

843
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: Well, and you know we saw a little engine that

844
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: couldn't right in the college football playoff with Ole miss

845
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: Who I mean, how many interceptible passes did you count

846
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: in that game between those two teams?

847
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: That was wild.

848
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: That was wild. I mean, just like the opportunity for

849
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: gifts to be given all over the place, and instead

850
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: Miami just kind of ends up playing around with their

851
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: food and the food almost bit them back at the

852
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: end again had they been the beneficiary of what should

853
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: have been a pass interference called with six seconds left

854
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: in the game. I digress. Yeah, this is the I mean,

855
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: but this is the NFL postseason, right you. The parody

856
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: of the NFL. Like the way that it's marketed, marketed,

857
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: the way that it is marketed. It is not league wide.

858
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: But when you get to the top third of the NFL,

859
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: a lot of these teams, especially at the end of

860
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: the year, where you've played a ton of football and

861
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: you've dealt with a bunch of injuries and you're just

862
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: trying to, you know, duct tape and patchwork way through

863
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: to get to the next round in a single elimination tournament.

864
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: How much is Carolina really ten points worse than Los

865
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: Angeles at this point in time, especially by the way,

866
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: given the way that the Rams. Rams kind of limped

867
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: into the postseason, right, And that's something that Sean McVay

868
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: talked about. It's a reason that they played starters at

869
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: the end of the year when sometimes they don't for

870
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: the purposes of rest. You don't want to be that

871
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: team that's just dragging a leg into the tournament only

872
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: to get bounced by the likes of the Carolina Panthers

873
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: in this particular situation. So I think when we talk

874
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: about the period of the league, it's really with the

875
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: teams that are competing in the postseason because there are

876
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: a lot of Every team has critical flaws that can

877
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: pop up in any individual game. And today the Rams

878
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 3: are in an absolute rock fight, and Carolina's defense came

879
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: to kick their ass and they are absolutely doing that

880
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: or attempting to do that at every turn. You see

881
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 3: a team that's playing I won't call it quite inspired football,

882
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: because inspired football would maybe be a little bit of

883
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 3: a higher level performance. And they're still trailing by three,

884
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: but they're in a it's right now and they're threatening

885
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: and this is a huge opportunity for Carolina. Uh there's

886
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: one of those tough hits from Nate Landman that we

887
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 3: were just talking about.

888
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, flag, huge flag, huge flag.

889
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: I mean the tough hits are like they are flying

890
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: around knocking the snot out of each other in this game.

891
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: Like if you and for everybody that ever sits in,

892
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: for every old man, that's like all right, physical football,

893
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: Like go watch this game, right because they are absolutely

894
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: hammering each other. And you're right, that huge flag gives

895
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: a first in goal to Carolina now at the three

896
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: yard line, so you're talking about three yards away from

897
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: getting the opportunity, and now they will take the lead.

898
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: Carolina has just scored a touchdown. They are ahead of

899
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: the Rams in the fourth quarter. Cuba Hubbard with the

900
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: with the three and a half yard touchdown run fourteen

901
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: thirty four to go in this game, pending an extra point.

902
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: Carolina up three right now again pending the extra point.

903
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: They take the lead here and This is just man.

904
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: You said something Buck that I think is important here.

905
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 2: This speaks to what this year's playoff is. I think

906
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: a ten point spread on any of these games is absurd.

907
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: It's absurd because this has been the most unpredictable year

908
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: of NFL football I can remember. This is the most

909
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: any given Sunday I can remember from the league. This

910
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: is if you're telling me right now I gotta bet

911
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: my house on any of these teams to win the

912
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I'm out. I'm out because I'm just gonna

913
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: end up living in a cardboard box. We have no

914
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: idea right now.

915
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: Really, you're you're waivering even on Seattle, who is the

916
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: betting favorite by you know, a pretty considerable margin at

917
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: this point in time, as the Panthers take the lead.

918
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: To buy it. Look, I was actually given credit by

919
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: my Yahoo Sports co host the other day. There are

920
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: two teams coming into the year that a month into

921
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: the season I was really in on the Colts oops

922
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: that turned out the wrong way, and the Seahawks. Now

923
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: there's a lot of reasons for the Colts, but I

924
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: mean squarely, I've been in on Seattle for a long

925
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: time because I think that their defensive head coach. You know,

926
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: go back to what the Ravens told you when he left.

927
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Ravens players said that it took a couple of years

928
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: to get that defense really down, and once they had it,

929
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: it was a cheat code. So I expected it would

930
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: take a couple of years. In Seattle, it's become a

931
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: cheat code. I think Clint Kubiak is one of the

932
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: best coordinators in the league, and I think they're getting

933
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: enough out of Sam Donald. But I trust their running game.

934
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: I truly trust their ability to run the football multiple ways.

935
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: They have one of the best wide receivers in the league.

936
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: But man, to bet my house, I gotta bet that

937
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: Sam Donald's done something he's never will do something he's

938
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: never done before. I gotta bet that he's gonna play

939
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: mistake free for an entire playoff run. And man, that

940
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: scares the snot out of me. It's just I have

941
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: a hard time buying into any of these quarterbacks being

942
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: able to rea like, we just have no proof of concept.

943
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: Other than Josh Allen, we have no proof of concept

944
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: from him.

945
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: But even he I mean, and well, yeah, I mean Stafford,

946
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: But like Stafford there tonight they're exposing the one way

947
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: to beat Stafford, which is you. I mean, if you

948
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: can get to him, you can make them mortal. Like

949
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: that's the thing. He's been so well protected and has

950
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: protected himself with how quickly he gets the ball out

951
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: and all these different things. Carolina is doing a hell

952
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: of a job defensively to mitigate that as much as possible. Again,

953
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: their lead is three at this point in time, so

954
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: they're not our lead? Is is it twenty four to twenty?

955
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: Did they kick an extra point already?

956
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: Did I I was busy talking to you, and I didn't.

957
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: Think it's either twenty four to twenty or twenty three

958
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: to twenty. Pull up the twenty four to twenty. Very good, Okay,

959
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: very good. So in this particular situation, the lead is

960
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 3: four at this point in time, and that's that's pretty

961
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: tenuous because at any point Matt Stafford can rip you

962
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: down the field, and Pooka Nakua can make a play,

963
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: and Devonte Adams can get loose in the red zone

964
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: and all these different things. But they this is the way,

965
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: if you were going to find the way to beat

966
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: the Rams. This is what I'm talking about. Carolina is

967
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: exposing the one thing or the biggest way that you

968
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: can beat this Rams team and to the credit of Carolina, Man,

969
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what the what the vibe is in

970
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 3: Charlotte or anything like that. I don't know how Panthers

971
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: fan necessarily feel about where this team was supposed to

972
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: be this year versus where it's gotten. It to me,

973
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: externally feels like a huge overachievement or at least a

974
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: little bit ahead of where they thought they might be

975
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 3: because of the uncertainty around Bryce Young. And I still

976
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, do we definitively know about Bryce Young?

977
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: If he wins a playoff game tonight, I you strengthen

978
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: the case. And I guess that's a feather in his cap.

979
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: He can't take it away from him. But he's not

980
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: necessarily going to be the reason outright that they win

981
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: this football game. He's not going to. He has not yet,

982
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: let's say, with a quarter of football left to play,

983
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: he has not yet given you a convincing moment as

984
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: to that being the guy that will carry you forward

985
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: into your future is you have to make huge decisions

986
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: on that if you're Carolina at this point in time.

987
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: But for them, man, I mean, they just went down

988
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: They just went down the field in four plays sixty

989
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: two yards to score touchdown against once one of the

990
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 3: best defensive fronts in football. And they are in Corol

991
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: at home. This is a huge fourth quarter coming up.

992
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 3: Huge game tonight, by the way. I know we're going

993
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: to go to the Packers and the Bears, but there

994
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: are so many just really awesome narratives and storylines beyond

995
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: the actual football that will be played itself. I cannot

996
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: wait to see the atmosphere at Soldier Field.

997
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: I want to get there, and we'll get there in

998
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: just a second. I just want to say this to

999
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: your Bryce young point. I think we need a new

1000
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: category of quarterbacks because everybody wants to be in this

1001
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: world where either a guy is elite. I spent a

1002
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: lifetime listening to is Joe Flacco elite radio debates? Or

1003
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 2: somebody sucks. And I think there's a whole nother bucket

1004
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: we forget about, and that bucket is in my system.

1005
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: With the right things around, I think we can win

1006
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: a lot of football games. And unfortunately that bucket is

1007
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: one that people hear. You and I've talked about why

1008
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: game manager isn't a bad word. People hear that Bucket

1009
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: and they say, well, you can't pay that guy. Unfortunately,

1010
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: I think you kind of have to like that Bucket

1011
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: still gets paid because ultimately, you're not making the decision

1012
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: between Bryce Young or Patrick Mahomes. You're making the decision

1013
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: between Bryce Young and Zack Wilson, like you're making the

1014
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: decision between Bryce Young and some other Aidan O'Connell like.

1015
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: So I think we just need to have a different category.

1016
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Like I think Bryce Young has clearly shown that he

1017
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: can be a capable quarterback in the NFL. I don't

1018
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: think that Bryce Young has shown anybody that he's a

1019
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: franchise superstar. I don't think that Bryce Young has shown

1020
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: anybody that he's a world beater. I don't think he's

1021
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: an epic quarterback. I think he's in a category of like, look,

1022
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: Dave Canalys has figured it out with him with Bryce Young,

1023
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 2: They've been pretty good and I'd love to see where

1024
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: it goes with him for a year. But the problem

1025
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: is the payment schedule makes us make decisions about how

1026
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: great we think a quarterback is. And that's just the

1027
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: unfortunate thing about that is we're paying against what right,

1028
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: Like I get it, you know, and I've heard many

1029
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: people say for years. I'm not sure it's not wrong.

1030
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: The biggest mistake you can make in the NFL is

1031
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: giving elite money to mediocre talent. I think there's some

1032
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: truth to that, But I also think that you wake

1033
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: up one day and again I'm damaged as a fan

1034
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: of a team that had Derek Carr forever and everybody said, well,

1035
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: you can't win with Derek Carr. And then you get

1036
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: rid of Car and you go through the process of

1037
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: everybody that's not Derek Carr, and you're like, oh, I

1038
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: don't kind of preferred Derek Carr. Like I'm not worried

1039
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: about overpaid Derek Carr. I'm worried about making sure that

1040
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't have ad and O'Connell and Gardner Minshew as

1041
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: my quarterback room for the next decade. So where's Bryce Young?

1042
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: Bryce Young is proving that he's in the weekend Like,

1043
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: if they win this game, then Bryce Young has proven

1044
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: he's in the we can win a playoff game with

1045
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: them category. That to me is its own category.

1046
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: I just don't understand why that's such a hard concept

1047
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 3: to wrap your head around. Listen, and I'm not pretending

1048
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: like I have any additional information or any kind of

1049
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: outside the box knowledge that a general manager in the

1050
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: NFL hasn't thought a million times over. But it just

1051
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: doesn't seem that complicated to me to look at quarterback

1052
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: playing the NFL, and maybe you are dealing with the

1053
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: process of agents and inflation year over year and the

1054
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 3: outsized percentage of your salary cap that these quarterback contracts,

1055
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: specifically these quarterback contracts will take up, right, and the

1056
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: argument for well, would you rather to your point, pay

1057
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: middling talent elite kind of money if they're not, in

1058
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: fact somebody who can make at least a play in

1059
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: a huge moment to change one game for you when

1060
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: you need it the most, right, because that's really what

1061
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: you're asking these guys to do. But in reality, like

1062
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: if if the marketplace was I don't want to say equitable,

1063
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: because the players should probably mean, oh my god, I

1064
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 3: thought that was going to be an interception for Stafford

1065
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: in the end zone.

1066
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: I think that this is really tough to do. This

1067
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: distracted radio.

1068
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why they should never let us do

1069
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: radio with sports on this way. It's delightful.

1070
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: We've been doing immediately good job of it today We've

1071
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: been doing it all year, Buck, Like this is not?

1072
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: Is that not?

1073
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: Like Ian sitting here saying no, I'm used to this

1074
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: shiny bike radio of you guys going off the rails

1075
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: usually just happens to be a college football game. You

1076
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: know it's isn't it right now? It's go ahead? Sorry

1077
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: I didn't mean it.

1078
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: Well, no, it's fine. My point is that I think

1079
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: that you can win with about eighty percent of quarterbacks,

1080
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: Like you can get to the game with about eighty

1081
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: percent of quarterbacks. Now, that assumes that the quarterbacks, the

1082
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: eighty percent of quarterbacks are in a vacuum, right, and

1083
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: that all situations are created equal, and then everybody has

1084
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: a Kyle Shanahan to scheme up, and everybody has a

1085
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: defense to help them get off the field or to

1086
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: get them back on the field and be a cheat

1087
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: code that way, the way the Boon Nicks does, right, Like,

1088
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: none of these situations are created completely equitable. But I

1089
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: think if you put eighty percent of quarterbacks in a

1090
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: neutral environment that's neither the worst nor the best, you

1091
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: can probably have a pretty good chance to win a

1092
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: good percentage of your games in the NFL. I just

1093
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 3: think that different quarterbacks have different strengths and weaknesses, right,

1094
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: that we start to outsize the value of Okay, well,

1095
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: is Josh Allen's mobility the X factor here? And is

1096
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: it that much more than Lamar's or less than Lamar's

1097
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: or all these different things? Or what Mahomes does as

1098
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: far as mobility, whereas if you have him in third

1099
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: and twelve and he scampers for fifteen, all of a

1100
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: sudden like, is that a better version of mobility than

1101
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: what you bring to the table in all of these

1102
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: other situations? Or versus Stafford, right, who's just a statue

1103
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: back there, but is as accurate and as a dept

1104
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: to passer as any we have seen in NFL history,

1105
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: much less as much as the modern as much as

1106
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: like the current day of NFL quarterbacks go. So it's

1107
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: a really the word elite is thrown around too much.

1108
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: How many quarterbacks do you think are elite in the

1109
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: NFL this year?

1110
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean, without going to the list of my head,

1111
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: four or five.

1112
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: I would scream at you and say that is outrageous,

1113
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: that is too much. There's one. Matt Stafford to me,

1114
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 3: is the only elite quarterback in the NFL this season,

1115
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: this season his level of.

1116
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: Play elite this season, I think Josh Allen has been Superman.

1117
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: I think Josh Allen has had to be Superman in

1118
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: a lot of moments, and I think Josh Allen should

1119
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: not have to be Superman as often as he is.

1120
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: I think that that's a different kind of a conversation,

1121
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 3: like can you just will yourself to a win desperation mode?

1122
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: Mad max versus elite level quarterback play? Now, you know,

1123
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 3: maybe I'm being too rigid with the definition of quarterback

1124
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 3: play in that particular situation. But even then, FITZI, I'd

1125
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: be advocating on behalf of two people as opposed to

1126
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 3: four or five.

1127
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: Well, and this is where I go back to my

1128
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: music background sometimes, Bucket, I will tell you this. If

1129
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: you put thirty people in a room and said, all right,

1130
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: who's the best guitar player for your band? Everybody wants

1131
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: a different kind of guitar player. That's why I hate

1132
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: it when somebody says, who do you think the greatest

1133
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: drummer of all time is? Well, I mean that depends

1134
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: on what your band does, Like, that depends on the

1135
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: type of music you play. Like, there's different there's different

1136
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: qualifications for it. We accept that in every other you know,

1137
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: who's the best mechanic in the world, where it depends

1138
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: on what kind of car you're taken to them, you know,

1139
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 2: like who's the best anything in the world. There's subjectivity

1140
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: to it because it depends on what's happening. So what

1141
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: we do know is what's happening right now. The Rams

1142
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: have just scored a touchdown. They went right down the

1143
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: field Kyra and Williams. Would a catch a touchdown reception

1144
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: there on a little quarterback or a half back angle

1145
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: route that puts them up by two pending the extra point.

1146
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated on this game. Plus we will

1147
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: finally get to it. The I think the best game

1148
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: of the weekend kicks off in what about an hour?

1149
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: We will get into it. Next the Packers taking on

1150
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: the Bears. What's at stake? We'll answer that question. Wow,

1151
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: what another will pass from the Rams? All right, we'll

1152
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 2: get you updated on the next. Bucket fits on Fox

1153
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. He's bug Rising, the snarky one. I'm Jason

1154
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 2: Fitz the less snarky one. Bucking fits on Fox Sports

1155
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: Radio at least in my eyes, for the best pregame

1156
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: show every weekend. Be sure to tune into Fox Sports

1157
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: Radios count Down to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM every

1158
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday morning. We count you down to all

1159
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: the biggest games for three hours right up until kickoff.

1160
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: For all the best plays up to the second injury news.

1161
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 2: Tune into Countdown to Kickoff presented by Bet MGM every

1162
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: Saturday Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and

1163
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: the iHeart app. Carolina got the ball. Caroline already gave

1164
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: the ball back. The Rams have the ball. There's seven

1165
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: minutes to go in this game. Rams are up by three,

1166
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: so we will keep you updated on what this drive means. Certainly,

1167
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: with time running down, Carolina has got to find a

1168
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: way to hold the Rams here second and six. We'll

1169
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: keep you updated. But the game kicking off tonight, Buck

1170
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: to me, is just one of those rare moments where

1171
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: you get a playoff matchup that I don't think you're

1172
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: cann hype enough when you talk Packers and Bears Saturday night.

1173
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: Just the atmosphere, it's Soldier Field. I mean, the tickets

1174
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: at Soldier Field were atrocious for this one, because you've

1175
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: got just an entire fan base that has starved for

1176
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: the opportunity taking on their most heated rival. Everything about

1177
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 2: this just plays to what is going to be an epic,

1178
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: memorable night in a rivalry that just doesn't need any

1179
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: more hype. This game just absolutely is the hyped game

1180
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: of the weekend for me.

1181
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 3: Well, and it's interesting because at least last I looked

1182
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: and I need to double check before I go to

1183
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 3: air with this, I suppose, But when I first saw

1184
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 3: that the Packers were favored in this game, I found

1185
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: that very interesting and I was trying to understand why

1186
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 3: that might be the case, because I know the Bears

1187
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 3: are not a perfect team, and they're still favored. Green

1188
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: Bay is on the road in Soldier Field by point

1189
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 3: and a half at this point in time, and I'm

1190
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 3: sure you know it varies by from sportsbook to sportsbook,

1191
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: but where I'm looking right now, it's a point and

1192
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: a half. It is one of those things where you're like,

1193
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: all right is talking about like, for example, the Rams,

1194
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: who are in a dog fight with the Panthers right now,

1195
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: and the Panthers giving them probably more fight than the

1196
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: point spread would have indicated, which said that there was

1197
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: a ten point difference between these two teams right now

1198
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: it's twenty seven to twenty four in the waning moments

1199
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter for Chicago and Green Bay. It's

1200
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: one of those things where you're like, all right, what

1201
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: does Caleb Williams look like in this moment? And are

1202
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: they just accounting for the fact that Jordan Love and

1203
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur have been in the postseason before and that

1204
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: there is going to be some level of inexperience. Ben

1205
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: Johnson is an experienced coach, but this is a different

1206
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: circumstance than he or this team, this franchise has been

1207
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: in in quite some time. Hosting playoff games is not

1208
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 3: something the Chicago Bears have done with regularity over the

1209
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: course of the last twenty years. And the other part

1210
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: of this is the Matt Lafleur element of it. Fits

1211
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: he could he get fired if they lose to the

1212
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: Bears tonight.

1213
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean, do you really think that could happen?

1214
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: Like I think if it was, if there's any real

1215
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: noise around Matt Lafleur, Because people Green Bay athletic writers

1216
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: and beat writers in that part of the country have

1217
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: been messaging that this is not a lock, right, It's

1218
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: not enough to just limp into the playoffs or whatever

1219
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: however you're viewing this particular Packers team, and there have

1220
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: been criticisms that frankly, I don't think most people have

1221
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: qualified to make of Matt Lafleur's play calling, when in reality,

1222
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: I think a good deal of why they're here in

1223
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 3: the first place with a very inconsistent collection of skill

1224
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: position players and a quarterback who's dealt with concussions and

1225
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: injury all year long, and Jordan Love is because Matt

1226
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: Lafleuur is pretty adept at scheming up offense. I'm very

1227
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: confused by the dialogue around him, But that is somebody

1228
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: from somebody who covers a team like the Tennessee Titans,

1229
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: who would bend over backwards to land Matt Lafleur should

1230
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: he come available in this very bizarre coaching carousel that

1231
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 3: we are already in the midst of at this point

1232
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 3: in time, I think if there was ever a scenario

1233
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 3: in which it was real, it would be he loses

1234
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: to the Bears in a one and done situation. And

1235
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: there is enough animosity between these two franchises that it

1236
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: evokes a bit more of an emotional response from Green

1237
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: Bay than green Bay has otherwise shown they're prone to.

1238
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: I think you're right everything you just said, you right,

1239
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: And I want to give the Athletic a lot of credit,

1240
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: Like there's no freebies in the world. I think that

1241
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: the Athletic does a really good job. The writers that

1242
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: they have covering teams are just they are more plugged

1243
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: in than many and so a lot of credit. Like

1244
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: it was the Athletic that told you first that the

1245
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: Bengals weren't going to be moving on from anybody, and

1246
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: at the time Bengals fans said, wow, I don't know

1247
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 2: what they're talking about. What do you know they didn't

1248
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: move on from anybody, Like, I think that there's a

1249
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: lot of good that comes from the Athletic. So I

1250
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: really respect the hell out of the concept that people

1251
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 2: that are tied in locally are saying, Hey, this isn't

1252
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: a given for me. I have more question marks about

1253
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: Jordan Love than I do about Matt Lafleur. And that's

1254
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: just like, at the end of the day, it's funny

1255
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: I've been called tough on Jordan Love by some cost

1256
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: like Anthony Gargano. We worked together for a couple of

1257
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: years on The Fellows on Fox Sports Radio. On Saturday mornings.

1258
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: He always told me, He's like, man, you are tough

1259
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: on Jordan Love. I'm not tough on Jordan Love. I

1260
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: just think that we have been so desperate for Jordan

1261
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: Love to fit into a category that we tried to

1262
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: make that happen. So when he plays a few games

1263
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: his first year as a starter that are good, everybody's like, oh,

1264
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: Jordan Love is the answer. Well, I don't know. Is

1265
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: he like he had a couple of hot games against

1266
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: bad teams and then he comes out has kind of

1267
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: an up and down season. It's like, to me, Jordan

1268
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: Love is a little up and down, and I oh,

1269
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: Jordan Love a little up and down. More importantly, the

1270
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: Rams punting with four minutes to go, have had that

1271
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: punt blocked by the Carolina Panthers four minutes ago. Panthers

1272
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: ball Well, would take a break here, Martin, get us

1273
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: caught up on what's going on. I am mesmerized by

1274
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: this game.

1275
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 6: I mean it is back and just call it back

1276
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 6: and forth, doing a disrespect to back and forth. I mean,

1277
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 6: twenty seven to twenty four Panthers just block a punt

1278
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 6: by the Rams. Matthew Stafford throwing incompletions, like.

1279
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 7: As in a drive which they're trying to kill the clock.

1280
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 6: Kyran Williams wasn't able to get the ball off eighteen

1281
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 6: for thirty five right now. His stafford two thirty three

1282
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 6: through the air, one touchdown, but a costly interception, and

1283
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 6: quite honestly could have had two if Pooka and Akupa

1284
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 6: hadn't broken one up earlier. In this quarter, Kyrin Williams

1285
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 6: has fifty seven yards rushing Puka with three carries for

1286
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Speaker 6: fourteen yards and a touchdown. He's got eight catches for

1287
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Speaker 6: eighty six yards and a receiving touchdown.

1288
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Speaker 7: He was stuck on six and sixty three for the longest.

1289
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Speaker 6: Waking up a little bit in this fourth quarter here,

1290
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 6: but right now the main story's four minutes left. Bryce

1291
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 6: Young and the Carolina Panthers starting this drive on a

1292
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 6: first and ten RPO to Ted McMillan. He gets down

1293
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 6: to the fifteen yard line. Bryce is twenty for thirty

1294
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 6: four two point fifty seven through the air.

1295
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 7: He does have an interception. All Carolina's touchdowns.

1296
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 6: Have been on the ground, two Hubbard, one for Bryce Young,

1297
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 6: last far again, four fifteen left in the fourth quarter,

1298
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 6: Carolina in the ball with the ball deep in the

1299
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 6: red zone right now, trailing by three, twenty seven to

1300
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 6: twenty four.

1301
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Speaker 7: Fellas, this one's a back.

1302
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 6: And forth, a fair two number one overall picks with

1303
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 6: Bryce Young and Matt Stafford going at it.

1304
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: Back to you, now, this this game's gonna come down

1305
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: to the wire. And look if you, if you were

1306
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: a betting man boy, you were really hopeful that the

1307
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: Rams would go down there and get that touchdown to

1308
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: give them an eleven point lead instead or a ten

1309
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: point lead, I should say, and instead, And now the

1310
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: Panthers are driving their way down the field to get back.

1311
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Speaker 2: He's buck rising. I'm Jason Fitzbuckett fits on Fox Sports Radio,

1312
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: hanging out with you to get back to this Packers

1313
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: Bears matchup. It is funny because it feels like the

1314
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: Bears a year ago were so broken and now it's

1315
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: a combination. I think the Bears have had a kiss

1316
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: by the football god season, but I also think we've

1317
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: seen tremendous growth from Caleb and Ben Johnson has absolutely

1318
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: been everything everybody wanted him to be as a coach.

1319
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: That's part of why I am surprised that the Packers

1320
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: go into this game as a favorite because there's been

1321
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: enough good. Certainly in my mind, there's been enough good.

1322
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: And when you look at these two games in the

1323
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: way they played out, like we've already seen the Bears

1324
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: Packers play two instant classics. Both games came down to

1325
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 2: the end. Both times the Bears had a chance to

1326
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: win it. One time they did, one time they didn't. Right,

1327
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: So you put this game at Soldier Field, I just

1328
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a shock to me. So I

1329
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: guess part of the reason I can't see Lafleur getting

1330
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 2: fired is I don't think he's the problem. I don't

1331
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: think it would be shocking if they lose this game.

1332
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: And I think it disrespects a little bit of where

1333
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: the Bears are, even though they've been a very lucky

1334
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: football team this year. It disrespects where the Bears are

1335
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: at home in this matchup.

1336
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just don't think that matters when you

1337
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: have the NFL's oldest rivalry and this much hatred. I

1338
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: mean people in Chicago. I don't know if Green Bay

1339
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 3: feels the same way about Chicago that Chicago does about

1340
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: green Bay. What do you got first?

1341
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: Because you're slow, lightly ahead touchdown. Jalen Cocher, touchdown, Panthers.

1342
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: The Carolina Patters have just taken the lead. Yeah, Jalen Cocher.

1343
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: With the redemption here, they are up thirty to twenty seven,

1344
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: pending the extra point two thirty nine to go in

1345
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: this game, to thirty nine to go, the Panthers have

1346
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: just scored, pending the extra points. Go ahead.

1347
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: Hell yeah Panthers. Uh So, as you look at the

1348
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: circumstance for Matt Lafleur, I would agree with you that

1349
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: it's a completely rational assessment that you've just given. And

1350
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm also going to acknowledge or the opportunity for wiggle

1351
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: room in a scenario where I think you could probably

1352
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 3: see a little less logic being applied to the situation. Now.

1353
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 3: I think the Packers are very well run organization. I

1354
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: don't think that they are reactionary in this way. I

1355
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: think it is more about fan upheaval right now with

1356
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: the Packers fan base than it is about dissatisfaction with

1357
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur by the organization. Now, I just you know,

1358
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: I say that as somebody who reports on a different

1359
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 3: NFL franchise in a different NFL city. So what the

1360
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 3: hell do I know about how the Packers feel about

1361
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur other than I really enjoyed Matt for his

1362
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 3: year when he was here in Tennessee as an offensive coordinator.

1363
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad to see him succeeding in Green Bay,

1364
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: and I think he's a better than average coach. I

1365
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: don't think that's by any stretching imagination. I think a

1366
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 3: lot of Packers fans consider him to just kind of

1367
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: be a guy not you know, and I'm not saying

1368
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: he's John Harbaugh or anything like that. Although you know,

1369
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: you hold Harbaugh and McCarthy and Sean Payton's resumes up

1370
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 3: next to one another, they look basically identical, which is

1371
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: kind of crazy to think about the difference and narratives

1372
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: between those three coaches, even though they are all are

1373
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: all viewed favorably and accomplished in that situation. I'm just

1374
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: saying Matt Lafleur isn't viewed in the same kind of

1375
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: tear as a guy like John Harball, who's just been

1376
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 3: at it for a long time and actually has a

1377
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl to his name.

1378
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: Well, and the funny thing is you just mentioned the

1379
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: resumes of Harbaugh Lafleur and McCarthy. And let's just remember

1380
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: that Harball had the advantage for many of the many

1381
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 2: of these years of a two time NFL MVP. McCarthy

1382
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: had the advantage of, I mean, the two quarterbacks he coached. Obviously,

1383
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is going to be a Hall of Famer

1384
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: and Dak who I think is one of the premier

1385
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the game. So it's funny to me that

1386
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: now Lafleur is doing of the three you just mentioned,

1387
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: I would argue that Lafleur is accomplishing it with the

1388
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: least quarterback resume, like the least quarterback benefit on his resume,

1389
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it is interesting. And

1390
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: look all the reports that are coming out now from Harball,

1391
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you guys have seen this,

1392
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: but there have been reports. One Cleveland radio host, Tony

1393
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 2: Grose was out there saying that he wants whatever, twenty

1394
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: million dollars a year plus a massive, a massive amount

1395
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: of money for his staff all of these things. I'm

1396
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: sort of torn on that buck because my buddy Frank

1397
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: schwab over at Yahoo always says the one area that

1398
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: there is no salary cap is on coaches in front offices.

1399
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: So like, look, if I owned an NFL team, the

1400
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: first thing I would do right now is I would

1401
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: go off for Howie Roseman fifty million. Like, look, I'm

1402
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: gonna go get the best GM in the league. I'm

1403
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: gonna pay him fifty million dollars right now. If that

1404
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: doesn't do it, I'll pay him a hundred I don't care.

1405
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: I'll pay what. He's clearly the best personnel guy in

1406
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: the NFL. So I'm gonna go get the best personnel guy,

1407
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: the best guy at running a team, Howie rose I'm

1408
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: gonna go get him at whatever it costs, and then

1409
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna build the dream staff at whatever it costs.

1410
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: Like it is funny to me because people are just

1411
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: absolutely losing their minds over the demands of hardball, to

1412
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: which I say, look, if you don't think he's worth

1413
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: the demands, okay, But I would also say, if you

1414
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: think he's worth the demands, why do you care if

1415
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: your owner worth billions chooses to spend one hundred million

1416
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: dollars building the right infrastructure around their head coach? I

1417
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: just don't care about, Like I don't care if Mark

1418
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: Davis dies broke. I don't care if he spends every

1419
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: dollar he ever makes on a coaching staff for a team.

1420
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't care about buyouts. I don't

1421
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: care about how much money they're paying for coaches that

1422
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: aren't there, like that's the owner's money and none of

1423
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: it impacts the salary cap. So I don't really give

1424
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: a damn how much somebody wants.

1425
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just want to make sure that that

1426
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: we're clear those are speculat Like Tony Grossey, who has

1427
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: been in the NFL or an NFL reporting for a

1428
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: long time. He's been in Cleveland for one hundred years.

1429
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: And I don't say that just because he's of an

1430
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 3: older generation and to age him, but he's just he's

1431
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 3: somebody who's been around the sport for a long long time.

1432
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: So I'm not discrediting what he's putting out there, but

1433
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 3: also what he's putting out there is and I've heard

1434
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 3: the exact clip from ESPN Cleveland, it's speculated speculated demands

1435
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: according to one league insider. Okay, so that's the way

1436
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: that Tony Grossy put the information out there. I just

1437
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 3: think it's important to put those additional qualifiers with it

1438
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 3: because we don't know exactly what John Hart. It's not

1439
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 3: like John Harbaugh has published a list of demands through

1440
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: his representation, but there is some conversation out there about

1441
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: what he wants to be paid and how much he

1442
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: wants for staff and roster control that he didn't have

1443
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: in Baltimore, which is a complete departure, because again it's

1444
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: what's being speculated on is a pretty big departure from

1445
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 3: what he was in Baltimore, right, And so you then

1446
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,839
Speaker 3: have to take into consideration, Okay, I want John Harbaugh,

1447
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 3: but what am I getting in this version of John Harball?

1448
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 3: Because John Harball Ravens apparently or on a speculated level,

1449
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 3: didn't have everything that John Harball wanted, and so now

1450
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna give him full run of an organization in

1451
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 3: this particular situation, What proof of concept do I have

1452
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 3: that he is equipped to pick out his guy at

1453
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 3: general manager, as is also being speculated and by the

1454
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: way that narrows it down to a few jobs, it

1455
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 3: unless some of these guys who are already in place,

1456
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 3: or for example, John Eric Sullivan of the Dolphins who's

1457
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: just been hired by Miami well formerly of the Packers,

1458
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: now the Dolphins GM. Perhaps there's a hardball connection there

1459
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 3: that people don't know about or maybe haven't read enough

1460
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: into yet. Again, it's just it's a lot of it's

1461
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: a lot of noise out there around him specifically. And

1462
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 3: I get your point about, you know, if you're if

1463
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: you're a fan, what do you care because it's not

1464
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 3: your money. I just think we always do this right

1465
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 3: as as fans with sticker shock and free agency sticker shock,

1466
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 3: as far as what coaches make, like it's just such

1467
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 3: the money is so outsize that you almost don't fault

1468
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: people for being like they want how much. No, you

1469
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: couldn't possibly be worth that in those situations. Free agency

1470
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 3: is one thing. I do think that there's you know,

1471
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: there's reasons to debate, like what we talked about earlier

1472
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,879
Speaker 3: in the first hour, like elite money for not elite

1473
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 3: caliber players, but just players who happen to be on

1474
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: the market at the time when the market's very favorable

1475
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 3: for that position. I don't wring my hands about it

1476
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: a lot unless I'm talking about more free the free

1477
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: agency portion of the discussion. I don't really care what

1478
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 3: coaches make if they're good enough to make that kind

1479
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 3: of money. If they're tenured enough to make that kind

1480
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 3: of money, the market says that they make that kind

1481
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 3: of money, it's less it's less egregious to me, it's

1482
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: less impactful to me than something that has direct implications

1483
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 3: on your salary cap for example, and things that would

1484
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: affect your ability to build a roster, like you know,

1485
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: Lagarious needs contract here in Tennessee for example, and Calvin

1486
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 3: Ridley and all these other things that they've just made

1487
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: a mess of en route to, you know, having to

1488
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 3: dig themselves out of this hole and now getting ready

1489
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 3: to have the most salary cap space in the league

1490
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 3: this year.

1491
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. I totally see why we all

1492
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: freak out about it when it comes to, you know,

1493
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: any sort of expenditure that impacts your team's ability to

1494
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: actually compete. And I will even listen to people that say, well,

1495
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: you got to have cash on hand in order to

1496
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: sign contracts because of the archaic system that exists for

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01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 2: salary caps, for signing bonuses and things like that. I'll

1498
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: hear some of that cash poor owner conversation. I just

1499
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: would like to remind everybody that, according to Forbes, the

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01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: lowest net worth of any owner they have the Bears listed,

1501
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: is don't know. They have the Colts listed, is don't know.

1502
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: So those are the bottom of the list. Mike Brown

1503
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Bengals is listed at nine hundred and

1504
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars networth. So I just want to

1505
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: say loudly, I don't care if a man worth nine

1506
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five million dollars has to spend one

1507
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars to bring in the right coaching and

1508
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 2: GM people. I mean, you're worth nine hundred and twenty

1509
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: five If you want a bunch, you're gonna make even more.

1510
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: So you know that's just where my mindset goes on it.

1511
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: We have a little over a minute left to go

1512
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: in this first Wild Card playoff matchup. If you're just

1513
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: tuning in, the Carolina Panthers are up thirty one to

1514
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: twenty seven, and as we hit less than a minute

1515
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 2: to go, the Rams are driving. Both teams have their

1516
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: full arsenal of timeouts fifty two seconds left. We will

1517
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 2: get you updated on how this game plays out. Plus

1518
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: when we come back the single greatest game show in

1519
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: the history of sports talk radio. Would you rather coming

1520
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: up next? Bucking Fits on Fox? Sports Radio. It's bucking

1521
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: fits on Fox Sports Radio. Usually we end every show

1522
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: would you rather? But right now we are two in

1523
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: it to get away from it. We are watching this

1524
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: thing come down to the wire. Carolina are trying to

1525
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: find a way to do the improbable and come back,

1526
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: and they're not going to the la Rams have held

1527
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: on and they will beat Carolina thirty four to thirty one.

1528
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 2: Caroline had an opportunity on fourth and ten, had a

1529
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: receiver Bryce Young just couldn't quite get it there. And Buck,

1530
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: I think you've analyzed this. Oh man, a ball was

1531
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: right there to be had, they couldn't do it. You've

1532
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: analyzed this perfectly. What did you see in the last

1533
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: thirty seconds of this game.

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 3: Well, you pointed it out, and it brought me to

1535
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 3: the realization that there are opportunities there for them to

1536
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 3: move the ball down the field and get into a

1537
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: more advantageous position. With three timeouts, they're gonna They're gonna

1538
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: take these timeouts into the offseason with them. Carolina like

1539
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 3: they had multiple opportunities to take advantageous gains and stop

1540
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: the clock as they tried to put themselves in better

1541
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 3: position to at least tie for a field goal right,

1542
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 3: and instead they're hunting bigger plays down the field, and

1543
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 3: we don't know. I just I just kind of wagged

1544
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 3: my finger at people earlier on the Matt Lafleur conversation

1545
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 3: about criticizing play calling and not being qualified, so we

1546
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 3: don't know the exact reads and the exact plays that

1547
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 3: were called. Were the meetings and all the context that's

1548
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: required before I say something about a coaching staff that

1549
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: I think, I feel, or I would feel if I

1550
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 3: was a Carolina Panthers fan. That would make me sick

1551
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: if that's how my season ended. And you have those

1552
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 3: three timeouts and you can put you can take less

1553
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: substantial gains to put yourself in position to at least

1554
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: continue to prolong your season. I don't know how it goes.

1555
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 3: If they play an extra period, right, the Rams may

1556
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: end up beating them all the same, But for him

1557
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 3: to just be chucking in completions at the end, all

1558
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're in fourth and ten with three

1559
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 3: timeouts and you're staring down the barrel of the end

1560
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 3: of your season. That can't be a good feeling. If

1561
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: you're a Panthers fan in front of the home crowd

1562
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 3: thirty four to thirty one RAMS advance.

1563
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: And this is one of those things where they got

1564
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: the ball back with about thirty seconds to go, and

1565
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, three timeouts, they got the ball back

1566
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: at about the thirty yard line. And what's surprising to

1567
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: me is on first down, second down, and third down,

1568
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: all three of those downs, by the time Bryce got

1569
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: the snap, almost immediately there was a RAMS defender in

1570
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: the backfield because they were sending more defensive linemen than

1571
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: the offense had the opportunity to block. Didn't seem like

1572
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: there was great communication up front from the offensive line.

1573
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: So Bryce is running for his life and then he's

1574
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: throwing the ball to nobody because he's either going to

1575
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: get hammered back there, he's got to get rid of

1576
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: the football. So to me, I think what's frustrating about

1577
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: that is we never really saw and you're right, we

1578
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: don't know the play calling or what was being executed,

1579
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: whether it was from execution or from play calling. I'm

1580
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: just surprised we never saw an easy outlet opportunity of hey,

1581
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: just jump the ball off to the running back, even

1582
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: if the running back only gets five yards, just take

1583
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: the five yards. Call the time out, and keep going,

1584
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 2: try to keep moving forward. So they put themselves in

1585
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 2: a situation where first and ten backpedaling, second and ten backpedaling,

1586
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: third and ten running for your life, throwing with somebody

1587
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: diving at your feet, couldn't complete it. And then fourth

1588
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: and ten. It was actually a pretty good throat hit

1589
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: the receiver in the hands. Would have been a tough catch,

1590
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: but the receiver could have made it, and they weren't

1591
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: able to make it. They just didn't give themselves the

1592
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: opportunity to make that play. And that just speaks a

1593
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: little bit of ben they're done that. There was so

1594
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: much calm and I can't stress this enough. Buck. The

1595
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: touchdown pass that put the Rams ahead was a perfect

1596
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: play call, with a perfect pass right, an absolute dime

1597
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: of a pass to Parkinson, who made a catch for

1598
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: the Ages, spun his body around, stayed in bounds, and

1599
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: got the touchdown. That's just one of those moments where

1600
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 2: it feels like the team that it's just you're handling

1601
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: that moment. The Rams handled the moment as much as

1602
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: their season looked like it was just on the ropes.

1603
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: They needed one drive from somebody that has a very

1604
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 2: good chance of being the MVP this year and for

1605
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: that one drive, Stafford looked like an MVP. The Rams

1606
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: looked like they had the right things dialed up at

1607
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: every single corner. They just out executed in the last

1608
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 2: two and a half minutes of the game. And that's

1609
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: heartbreaking for a Carolina team that was playing above their skis.

1610
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: Maybe they shouldn't have been in this game anyway. I

1611
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: don't know, but you're right, and Carolina fans are going

1612
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: to spend the entire year saying, God, what might have

1613
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: been for the last two minutes of that football game.

1614
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's just one team kept their

1615
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: cool and the other team felt like it lost their

1616
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: head a little bit in that situation. It is, you know,

1617
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: a cliche in sports as old as time. But act

1618
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: like you've been there before. The Carolina Panthers have not,

1619
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 3: like I mean, at least not in a very long time,

1620
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: and not this iteration of the Carolina Panthers franchise what

1621
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: they said today before the game. I think it's ten

1622
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,919
Speaker 3: years since the last playoff game that Carolina has hosted.

1623
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 3: That's why Cam Newton was there doing the whole bang

1624
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 3: the drum thing pregame and all these different things. So

1625
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 3: it has been some time, and you you don't just

1626
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 3: dwell on it because, okay, well we'll get them next time.

1627
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 3: We'll be prepared. We'll be the Rams in this situation,

1628
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: not losing our heads because we've understood how this can

1629
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 3: bite us in the butt. At the end of the day.

1630
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Carolina Panthers, with Bryce Younger

1631
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 3: getting back to the postseason, this felt like just happy

1632
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: to be here vibes anyway, And now I mean it's

1633
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 3: it's a good season for Carolina objectively, a good season

1634
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 3: for Carolina relative to expectation. Okay, I want to say

1635
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 3: that first and foremost. But if I said, all right,

1636
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: you finish what are they eight and nine right now

1637
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 3: going into the postseason? So you finish eight and ten

1638
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 3: with a loss in the postseason to the team that

1639
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 3: many people would have picked as a super Bowl champion

1640
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 3: or a super Bowl favorite in the offseason, and they said, jeah,

1641
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: you know what, that feels like We did a lot

1642
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: of good, feels like there's something to build upon, feels

1643
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 3: like positive momentum ahead of schedule for the Carolina Panthers.

1644
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 3: And yet you look at the way that that game ended,

1645
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, oh, okay, maybe we weren't supposed

1646
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 3: to be there in the first place, but that's how

1647
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 3: we're gonna go out. That's the way that we're gonna

1648
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 3: go out. Sad No, that would be tough for me

1649
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: to stomach.

1650
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's more more than ever. I agree with

1651
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 2: everything you said about Carolina. There's a lot to be

1652
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: happy about moving into next season. I'm also so cautious

1653
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 2: with that analysis because we said the same thing when

1654
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: Washington lost in the NFC Championship game. Oh man, year

1655
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 2: one of Jaydon Daniels, this is just the start. How's

1656
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: Washington now? I mean, if we go back to July

1657
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 2: and tell you, oh, by the way, this year, Washington's

1658
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 2: not gonna make the playoffs, a lot of people might

1659
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: have said okay to that. Also, on top of that,

1660
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: the Bengal is not going to make the playoffs and

1661
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 2: not going to fire anybody. Wow, that's kind of crazy.

1662
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: I remember when Joe Burrow was in the Super Bowl

1663
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: and we just presumed he would get back. Oh and

1664
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: the Ravens aren't gonna make the playoffs and they're gonna

1665
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 2: fire their head coach. Oh and the Chiefs aren't going

1666
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: to make a playoffs. Like the list goes on and on.

1667
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: This is more the NFL is more year by year

1668
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: than it has ever been before. So I think like

1669
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: the logic of hey, this is a good building block

1670
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 2: for next year is almost antiquated for a lot of

1671
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: the way football teams run their business right now, because

1672
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: it is just it feels to me more and more

1673
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: like it is a take advantage when the window was open,

1674
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: because the window could close right away. We'll be back

1675
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: next Saturday. We appreciate you guys hanging out with us

1676
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: on behalf everybody. He's buck rising up Jason Fitz. Listen

1677
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio all night long.