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Speaker 1: Well, I mean college football over the next week is

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Speaker 1: going to be crazytown. Lane Kiffin leaving old mister LSU

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Speaker 1: was crazytown. It is our number three in a Monday.

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Speaker 1: Miami may not get in Texas to me beat three

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Speaker 1: teams that were ranked in the top ten when they

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Speaker 1: played them. And this is where I have a real issue,

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Speaker 1: or I guess a real concern. I'm going to bring

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Speaker 1: an urban meyer three national championships Florida, Ohio state seventeen years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to throw this at you. Miami can

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Speaker 1: say we beat Notre Dame headhead. We have four common opponents,

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Speaker 1: we beat three of them worse than you. We have

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Speaker 1: a better defense and a better passing game. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, we scheduled an SEC team, we beat them too.

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Speaker 1: Florida just unraveled. And when we beat Florida State. They

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Speaker 1: were good, and you know this, teams fluctuate based on

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Speaker 1: injuries and momentum. I think Miami's got a real argument.

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Speaker 1: And after watching a Hammer, which I thought was a

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Speaker 1: solid team pit, I'm sitting there looking on the internet

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know. I think i'd have

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Speaker 1: a real complaint. What do you make of Miami's argument

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Speaker 1: over Notre Dames.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't able to watch it, but I'm like you,

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Speaker 3: I did not expect that. I thought Pitt would be

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Speaker 3: in a street fight with them, especially in the cold

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Speaker 3: weather at home, and I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 3: for Miami. They did not look like that early in

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Speaker 3: the year. Carson Beck was throwing inner sheet after an interception.

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Speaker 3: But I'm going to go back and watch it. I

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Speaker 3: watched the highlights, so I agree. I think there's certainly

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Speaker 3: a fight from Miami to get in there. And I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it's time to go into this call.

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Speaker 3: I just you know, I'm a I mentioned this to you.

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Speaker 3: I think the committee's got to go away. I don't

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Speaker 3: there's a way to get around this committee. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not taking a shot at the committee. You have Chris

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Speaker 3: Fahlak you got the Bear, you got mark Ingram, you

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Speaker 3: got Matt Liiner, Brady Quinn, urban Meyer. There's a bunch

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Speaker 3: of national titles. Heisman's a bunch of football guys. That's

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Speaker 3: what they do. Chris Faleek is unbelievable what he watches.

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Speaker 3: And we can't get it right. We are in a

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Speaker 3: I mean we're down there in fistfights in that green

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Speaker 3: got and we can't agree. So how in the world

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Speaker 3: are Athletic Director's Conference committe How are they coming up

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Speaker 3: with who's going to be in this in the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: So I'm a big believer in the four four two

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Speaker 3: goes away, the conferences take care of it and that way.

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Speaker 3: I want to add this. I know I'm talking a

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Speaker 3: I go talk to Ross the ad of Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: and I said, get that Texas game up our schedule

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Speaker 3: next year. We're not playing it.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Give me a good Give me a good, Max School,

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Speaker 3: because why wouldn't we play that.

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Speaker 4: Game right now?

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Speaker 3: If I Chris Oconti CDC and Sarkesian there's a chance

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Speaker 3: they're going to be left out of the playoff because

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Speaker 3: they played Ohio State Week one. Why would you do that?

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Speaker 3: So we're getting ready to colin arguably the worst non

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Speaker 3: done where they make those games count and don't get

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think it's time to get rid

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Speaker 1: watching them blowout Pitt And I thought cold Weather pit

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Speaker 1: good fistfight no way, And I'm like, man, they're going

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Speaker 1: to have an argument. I want to talk about. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: So Ohio State is favored, you know, by five six

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Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, if I'm Ohio State, I just come

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Speaker 1: a huge disadvantage for Ohio State. I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: they have better players. Do you think they'll be a

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think the game was that

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Speaker 3: last game. I was there. Obviously, Ohio State handled them.

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Speaker 3: that's how good Ohio States defense. And I think the

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Speaker 3: Wolverine offense is not very good. I think someday they

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Speaker 3: don't believe that. I believe that coach. He's been very conscientious.

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Speaker 3: They've had a relatively easy schedule coming up. You know,

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Speaker 3: you know, the quarterback is only thrown going into the

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Speaker 3: game Colin, He's only thrown twenty five passes in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. So this team is not spent. This team

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Speaker 3: actually is on you know, they r on a pitch

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Speaker 3: count pretty much all year. They huddle, they don't go fast,

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Speaker 3: they're only running. They're running twenty plays fewer per game

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Speaker 3: into the Wolverine game, they've played the fewest snaps of

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Speaker 3: this team is not spent. They're gonna be healthy going

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Speaker 1: Okay, so listen, college football schedule or it's calendar is weird.

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Speaker 1: So I don't love Lane kiffen bailing on the players.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to coach the team. But there's no way

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Speaker 1: old missus Gan Lechen have that job. That's ridiculous. But

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Speaker 1: I mean it's weird, Like I always kind of fall

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Speaker 1: into this. You hire Lane Kiffin, it's not because of

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Speaker 1: charm school every I mean, he got fired on the tarmac,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee. They wanted to burn his house down.

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Speaker 1: It's like, listen, I argue this urban that Ole miss

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Speaker 1: has mostly been irrelevant outside of Eli and archs manning

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Speaker 1: that if you would have signed up for this, if

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Speaker 1: I would have said to you, okay, Lane Kifvin's gonna

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Speaker 1: come to your program, you're gonna have your best season ever.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about you, number number one offense in the country.

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Speaker 1: He's going to bail you on you and take you

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Speaker 1: off at the end. Would just sign up for it.

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Speaker 1: So everybody, everybody in the state would have signed up

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Speaker 3: Of course they would else and you know it's unprecedented.

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Speaker 3: I actually was texting back and forth with Lane where

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Speaker 3: they let me when I left Utah went to Florida.

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Speaker 3: They let me come back and coach in the VCS

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Speaker 3: Bowl Game, first time a non VCS school made it.

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Speaker 3: I met with the players. They were good enough to say,

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Speaker 3: come on back. This is a whole different animal. He's

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Speaker 3: I mean, I still I was saying he's going to

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Speaker 3: stay for that reason that you can't laying differen is

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Speaker 3: not going to make a decision for money. I know

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Speaker 3: I don't know him that well, but I know well

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Speaker 3: enough he's a He's more competitive than he is worried

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Speaker 3: about money. In his heart. He must have think it's

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Speaker 3: to win a national title. That's the only thing I

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Speaker 3: I mean, how do you do? I don't think he

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Speaker 3: even man with the players. I heard the ad won't

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Speaker 3: let him. They just want the best season in the

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Speaker 3: history of goal missed. That team is prepared to go

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Speaker 3: make a run deep into the playoffs, and and he's gone.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I had mixed when I when I saw

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Speaker 3: A bunch of coaches got on that plane.

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Speaker 1: That's listen, it's it's I said, I've compared college football

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Speaker 1: an unregulated mess wild plugs you. You love it one day,

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Speaker 1: you hate it, the next you hire Lane Kiffen. It

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Speaker 1: always ends bizarrely and so okay. So I didn't listen

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Speaker 1: nothing against Texas, A and M. But I looked at

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Speaker 1: you better win. And I don't care where the game's at.

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Speaker 1: I watched them get into a hole against South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were a fun watch. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: put Texas in. I would what would you do with Texas?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's six teams right now on that darn bubble,

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Speaker 3: And then you say Texas goes in the Notre Dame's out.

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Speaker 3: I'll answering your question. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think Texas deserves me in the playoff, and I

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Speaker 3: would not penalize that loss against Ohio State. You can't

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Speaker 3: old dominions gonna become a favorite of all. These big

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Speaker 3: teams play our teams like that because they need. No

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Speaker 3: one cares Indiana is No one's saying a word about

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Speaker 3: Indiana's non conference schedule, no one yet. Texas made a

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Speaker 3: we won't be outing this conversation. Of course they'd be in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's unfair. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing is it was on the road. We didn't know

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Speaker 1: at the time Ohio State's the best defense in the decade.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know that, so, I mean, we just didn't know.

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Speaker 1: It's on the road. And the other thing is they

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, we were saying how good Ohio

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Speaker 1: can start in the NFL right now. So, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I I'm with you on this. I think Miami's got

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Speaker 1: a totally legitimate argument, and I think Texas may get hosed.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, yeah, I'm worried about it. Let me let

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Speaker 3: me let me leave you this thought. And Jerry Donardo

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Speaker 3: of the most profound things I ever heard. It's the

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Speaker 3: country that's being run by volunteers. Think about that. You

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Speaker 3: have a search, you have a committee, they're all volunteers.

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Speaker 3: And Jerry told me. Coacho told me stories where ads

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Speaker 3: would tell him that they would have like an intern

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Speaker 3: come in and watch films because they're so busy whatever

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they'll do it. I don't know. I

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Speaker 7: I know it's a big college football day, but there

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Speaker 8: Third straight start Colin.

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Speaker 3: For every possibility.

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Speaker 7: Next week against the Titans in a game you love

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Speaker 8: Colin, now you know this was an interesting game. I

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Speaker 1: Stroud is back.

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Speaker 7: Stroud look good, Colin Herestroud. We're super dangerous. We lost

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Speaker 7: Betting because Houston dutcause Stroud looked better.

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Speaker 8: Well, what's crazy is Houston.

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Speaker 7: If they don't beat the Chiefs, they probably won't make

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Speaker 8: Just a wacky, wacky season. In the NFL Final story con,

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Speaker 1: You know what's amazing about Seattle, It's crazy. DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 8: He had two catches.

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Speaker 8: It was a rough one.

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Speaker 7: It's all gonna come down to the rematch against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Now some of that was Ernest Jones had a tuddy,

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Speaker 7: I mean, did you see that interception that you I mean, Colin.

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Speaker 3: I got that.

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Speaker 7: That maybe the worst decision of the season by Eddie quarterback.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with a new Well, that's the news, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for stopping that. The Herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Doing a lot of college football this last hour because

439
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Speaker 1: there's so much going on. You know, I said this

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Speaker 1: earlier about Lane Kiffin, is you would have signed up

441
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Speaker 1: for it. You know, you would have, Like not every

442
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Speaker 1: relationship is a thirty year marriage. Sometimes it's two three

443
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Speaker 1: years dating. Lane Kiffin took you to a place you'd

444
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Speaker 1: never been to. You want to leve it regular season games.

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Speaker 1: He left abruptly, and I know a lot of people

446
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Speaker 1: don't like it. I think a lot of it's a

447
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Speaker 1: college football calendar issue. I've been saying this for years.

448
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Speaker 1: The reason boxing mostly died in this country isn't because

449
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Speaker 1: we don't like watching fights. It was selfishly run by promoters.

450
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Speaker 1: It didn't have a central figure. And then the UFC

451
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Speaker 1: with Dana White came in and overtook it. I was

452
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Speaker 1: more consistent, gave you better fight cards, more consistently. So listen,

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Speaker 1: people don't like getting dumped. When Lebron left Cleveland, it's

454
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Speaker 1: not that he left, it's the way he left. No,

455
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Speaker 1: he left. You didn't have to like it, But there

456
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Speaker 1: is no way to leave. Carmelo left the Nuggets, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: Dwight Howard in his prime left Orlando. There's no perfect

458
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Speaker 1: way to leave. It never feels right. So you know

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Speaker 1: I'm not defending Kifvin on that, but you know again,

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Speaker 1: it's let's not pretend it's football as the Vatican. You

461
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Speaker 1: know the business. It's wheeling and dealing, and I've compared

462
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Speaker 1: it to bitcoin. It's unregulated, every man for himself, wild

463
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Speaker 1: fluctuations and swings and you know, ole miss. My take is,

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Speaker 1: you win eleven games, you're the number one offense in

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Speaker 1: the country. Don't have to be bitter. I mean, I

466
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Speaker 1: understand being bitter for the hour or the day. It's

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Speaker 1: time to move on. Well, I've said this, I have

468
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Speaker 1: always If you dial, if you get on the phone

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Speaker 1: and say yeah, I'll go play out a conference in

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Speaker 1: August against at Ohio State, at Oklahoma, at Clemson and

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Speaker 1: you lose close, I will not hold it against you.

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Speaker 1: Anybody can schedule Panera Bread, Okay, to schedule Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I'm like that, that's a big boy program. So I

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Speaker 1: would put Texas in. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 1: it at all. Steve Start and their head coach is

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Speaker 1: joining us live. They're the only team with two wins

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Speaker 1: over opponents currently ranked in the college football Top ten,

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Speaker 1: so that matters to me, and urban Meyer said this,

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Speaker 1: if we punish you for Ohio State, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you lost closer to Steve Sarkisan joining us, you lost closer.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'll play this here was Urban a bit

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Speaker 1: ago telling us why Texas should be in Let's play

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Speaker 1: the take.

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Speaker 3: I think Texas deserves me in the playoff, and I

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Speaker 3: would not penalize that loss against Ohio State. You can't

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Speaker 3: do that. You can't or you're getting ready to see

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Speaker 3: old Dominions gonna become a favorite of all these big

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Speaker 3: teams playing or teams like that because they need. No

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Speaker 3: one cares Indiana is No one's saying a word about

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Speaker 3: Indiana's non conference schedule. No one yet. Texas made a

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Speaker 3: decision to get on a plane and go play the

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Speaker 3: number one team in the country or to number two

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Speaker 3: team in the country on the road, and they got

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Speaker 3: beaten a tough game. And now there's a chance because

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Speaker 3: of that they'll be late because if they didn't play

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Speaker 3: that game, we won't be out in this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also have stark thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I've also said this, I'm more willing to give an

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Speaker 1: SEC team a loss that's perceived as ugly because on

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Speaker 1: Florida by the way when you lost, was better than

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Speaker 1: they are at the end of the season. But what

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Speaker 1: would you say to people start that go you know, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia and Ohio State are fine, but that

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Speaker 1: Florida game, what would you say to the critics?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd say this, you know, at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, in this conference, it's not about getting up

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Speaker 4: for two games a year. It's week in and week

508
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Speaker 4: out and the grind of this conference. And to go

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Speaker 4: play your sec opener in the swamp against Florida not

510
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Speaker 4: an easy task in that environment, against that team, with

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Speaker 4: the quality of players that they had. And I understand, Hey,

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Speaker 4: yours can go the way that they go. But at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, I'd love to

514
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Speaker 4: say that we went out and played a perfect season.

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Speaker 4: We didn't. We lost some tough games, but so did

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Speaker 4: a lot of other people. I think the difference is

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Speaker 4: we won some really big games. You know, we played five,

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Speaker 4: you know, top ten teams in the country. Out of

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Speaker 4: our twelve regular season games, five of them are against

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Speaker 4: top ten ranked teams in the country. Three of those

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Speaker 4: were wins, two of those of which are ranked in

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Speaker 4: the current top ten, and the other one Vanderbilt is

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Speaker 4: just outside the top ten. Did We finished the season

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Speaker 4: after that Florida game six and one, and of those

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Speaker 4: six wins, you know, four of them were against you know,

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Speaker 4: top ten ranked teams. We went three and one in

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Speaker 4: those four games. We capped it off with a with

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Speaker 4: a double digit win against the number three team, undefeated

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Speaker 4: Texas A and M team in the country. So all in all,

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Speaker 4: we're proud of what we did. I think we're more

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Speaker 4: than deserving of being in this playoff because I think

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Speaker 4: ultimately is this can if we're going to get into

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Speaker 4: looking at records, which is what the AP pole does.

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Speaker 4: The AP pole, the reporters, they can't watch every game,

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Speaker 4: all right, did they win, did they lose? What was

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Speaker 4: a score? All right? They were you know, they were

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Speaker 4: favored by twenty eight, they won by thirty one. They

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Speaker 4: just they ranked by records, and that's clear. But my

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Speaker 4: understanding of the committee is is how do you play

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Speaker 4: against the good teams? You know, how do you play

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Speaker 4: against the how do you play against the common opponents?

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Speaker 4: How do you play against because when you go into

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, nobody's going to be favored by twenty eight points,

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Speaker 4: right that these games are all. You know, they're going

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Speaker 4: to be tight ball games. How do you play against

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Speaker 4: the good teams? And if you only had one, two

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Speaker 4: or three shots against the good teams and you didn't win,

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Speaker 4: you didn't win. To me, that's part of your resume.

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Speaker 4: We had five opportunities and that's two more than any

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Speaker 4: other team in the country, and we won three of them,

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Speaker 4: which is the best since twenty Nineteam and Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: and LSU, you know, beat three teams that were ranked

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Speaker 4: in the top ten during the regular season. So it's

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Speaker 4: a pretty monumental and historic run that we had to

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Speaker 4: get on. And I don't get me wrong, I wish

556
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Speaker 4: we went undefeated two, but there was a tall task

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Speaker 4: with a new team. We fought our tails off. We

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Speaker 4: fought our tails off in Columbus, Ohio, we fought our

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Speaker 4: tails off in Athens, Georgia, and we fought our tails

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Speaker 4: off in Gainesville, Florida, three of the probably most difficult

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Speaker 4: places to play in the country. And at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, we're nine to three. We're six and

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Speaker 4: two in the Southeastern Conference. We've beaten three top ten

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Speaker 4: ranked teams, two of which are current top ten ranked teams.

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Speaker 4: One of which was undefeated up until last week. So

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Speaker 4: I'm very proud of what we've accomplished, and unequivocally I

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Speaker 4: think we should be in the playoffs. I'm actually kind

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Speaker 4: of shocked we're actually having a discussion about this. But again,

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Speaker 4: there's two teams ranked in front of us that we

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Speaker 4: just beat, one we just beat this last month, and

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Speaker 4: so I'm a little concerned about what the committee's looking at.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, if we're just gonna look at records,

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Speaker 4: I got to reevaluate our future schedules because I have

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Speaker 4: to do what's in the best interests of the University

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Speaker 4: of Texas. If we're gonna look at records, I got

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Speaker 4: to make sure I'm putting us in position to have

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Speaker 4: the best record possible at the end of the season,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to playing really good teams and then looking

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Speaker 4: at the total body work.

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Speaker 1: You know. The other thing. You know, I said this earlier.

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Speaker 1: I watched Miami play pet up North in bad weather

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Speaker 1: and beat the you know what out of them, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, they beat Notre Dame head to head,

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Speaker 1: and I just watched some hammer a solid pit team.

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Speaker 1: Now I have a different opinion. This morning, they had

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Speaker 1: four common opponents. Miami beat three of them worse, they

587
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Speaker 1: have a better defense. So I look at arch Manning.

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Speaker 1: So because Texas is so high profile, all your games

589
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Speaker 1: get talked about, especially the big games. People aren't paying

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Speaker 1: attention to ARC's last five games where he's got sixteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: two picks, three ten a game. So you're not the

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Speaker 1: same offense. Also, you introduce four new offensive linemen. Well,

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Speaker 1: now they've got all these games under their belt. So

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Speaker 1: if this Texas team played the early Texas team, you

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Speaker 1: would win. Let's talk arts Manning. You're a different offense

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Speaker 1: today than when I watched you in August? Are you not?

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Speaker 4: No question about it? I mean just his level of maturity,

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Speaker 4: his growth. No college player at college football player has

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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: been under more scrutiny, but under a bigger microscope, been

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Speaker 4: more scrutinized, been more criticized, And this guy has handled

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Speaker 4: it like an absolute pro. And all he did is

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Speaker 4: continue to work and get better, better and better. Unless

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Speaker 4: you don't watch our games, then I have a hard

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Speaker 4: time people making a comment about is he a better player?

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Speaker 3: Is he not?

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Speaker 4: If you watch us play? Oh yeah, there's nobody who

607
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Speaker 4: watches play doesn't think that this guy's not a better

608
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Speaker 4: player and a better leader and a better passer. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's easy to see. And that's my concern though, is

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Speaker 4: that people don't really watch the games. They look at

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Speaker 4: highlights and they look at a box score as opposed

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Speaker 4: to actually watching the games, and how does he play

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Speaker 4: against the real quality opponents. And at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, I mean, this guy's been I don't know

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Speaker 4: if there's a quarterback playing better than him right now

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Speaker 4: in the country.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, you know, I said this last year when

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Speaker 1: Ohio State went to Auts and lost on the final play,

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Speaker 1: I said, I would actually rank them. I wouldn't drop them.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that as a negative. You had the

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Speaker 1: ball with under two minutes to go at midfield against

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Speaker 1: the Ohio State. You played him closer than everybody. You

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Speaker 1: also lost only on the road Georgia Ohio State floor. Again,

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Speaker 1: I consider that I can textualize all of it. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing that it is interesting that I have always

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Speaker 1: given credit to the bigger schools because the SEC and

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Speaker 1: the Big ten playing bigger stadiums. Also, when you play

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Speaker 1: Ohio State the next week, you're all banged up, so

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Speaker 1: you know, when you played Georgia. Nobody comes out of

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Speaker 1: the Georgia game and says, well, we're totally healthy. That's

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Speaker 1: not the way the world works. Was there a moment

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Speaker 1: in this season though?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 1: Because there was a lot of going back and forth,

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Speaker 1: what's Texas going to be? When was the moment you

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Speaker 1: thought to yourself, all, we can compete for the national championship?

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Speaker 1: Because I do think you can.

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Speaker 4: Now, well, I think we had a real awakening against Oklahoma,

639
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Speaker 4: and I think everybody holds Oklahoma in high regard, and

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Speaker 4: that was coming out of the Florida game, and it

641
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Speaker 4: was who were we going to be? Were we going

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Speaker 4: to be able to come out of that locker room

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Speaker 4: in Gainesville, get back up off the mat and go

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Speaker 4: compete against a really good Oklahoma team. Didn't just compete,

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Speaker 4: We beat them by three scores, you know, on a

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Speaker 4: neutral site field. And so at that moment, I said,

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Speaker 4: you know what, we can go play and we can

648
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Speaker 4: go beat anybody. And again, it hasn't been perfect along

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Speaker 4: the way, but what I do know is we're a

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Speaker 4: battle tested football team. And I think that being a

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Speaker 4: battle tested football team, being a mature football team helped

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Speaker 4: us this past Saturday night against A and M. We're

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Speaker 4: down ten to three at half. There was no panic.

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Speaker 4: Our guys went out and dominated the second half. We

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Speaker 4: won the second half twenty four to seven. We ran

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Speaker 4: the football, we played great defense. You know, it's being

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Speaker 4: a complete football team, and it's having the ability to

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Speaker 4: be at your best when your best in need, when

659
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Speaker 4: your best is needed against the quality opponents. I'm not

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Speaker 4: talking about, Hey, how do you play when you're favored

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Speaker 4: by twenty eight points? How do you play against the

662
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Speaker 4: really good teams? Because there's really good teams in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs and we know that firsthand because we've been to

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Speaker 4: the semi finals the last two years. We've been a

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Speaker 4: play away from playing for a national championship. And you

666
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Speaker 4: need to be at your best when your best is

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Speaker 4: needed against the best teams.

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Speaker 1: I actually think I believe you match up with Ohio

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Speaker 1: State really well because you have high end quarterback play,

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Speaker 1: you can run the ball, and you put pressure on

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Speaker 1: their young quarterback. So it's interesting to watch that game

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Speaker 1: now that Ohio State season has we've seen all of it. Now,

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Speaker 1: you matched up with them really well and didn't play

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Speaker 1: particularly well there. Okay, I got to leave you on

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Speaker 1: this we both know, Lane Kiffin, I think college football

676
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Speaker 1: has a calendar issue. I don't know what coaches are

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Speaker 1: supposed to do, Like, you know, you have to go

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Speaker 1: out and get that. I mean, not only is it

679
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Speaker 1: hiring a coach, you got to get the best staff.

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Speaker 1: So I feel some sympathy for Old Miss, but I

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Speaker 1: also feel bad for the coaches who have to leave players.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of that whole drama.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think to your point, we do have a

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Speaker 4: timing issue, and it's not just you know, the coaching

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Speaker 4: carousel's part of it. Like the SEC just hired five

686
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Speaker 4: new coaches yesterday, and obviously we've got National Signing Day

687
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Speaker 4: here coming up on Wednesday, and so there's a reason

688
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Speaker 4: everyone's hiring their coaches this weekend. They're trying to close

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Speaker 4: on their recruiting classes. You know, we tried to fix

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Speaker 4: that moving up the signing date to help because of

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Speaker 4: the portal, But now we pushed the portal back till January,

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Speaker 4: but then we never adjusted the high school signing date

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Speaker 4: back to mid December, and so everybody was in a scramble.

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Speaker 4: Everybody was in a race. People got put in some

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Speaker 4: some compromising situations of what to do, how to do?

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Speaker 4: One to do? And Lane had to make a decision.

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Speaker 4: He made the decision to go to LSU. They had

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Speaker 4: a great run at Old Miss and they had a

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Speaker 4: very good football team. They took advantage of their schedule

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Speaker 4: and they won the games that for the most part,

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Speaker 4: that they were supposed to And he made a decision

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Speaker 4: to go to LSU. And now Old Miss has gotten

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to go do what they want to do.

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Speaker 4: I think I think that the part that I want

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Speaker 4: for our sport is, you know, let's not make him

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Speaker 4: out to be the villain. Let's not make you know,

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Speaker 4: Old Miss and their ad out to be the villain.

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Speaker 4: It is what it is. Let's all move on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good luck to you. Congrats on that win.

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Speaker 1: Really really it was great. Plus I watched the Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: game that was impressive too. Thanks Mark, appreciate you, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Hook him up to it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'll say it like, we got a

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Speaker 1: twelve team playoff. I wish we had a fourteen. I

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Speaker 1: wish we invited because I have a really really hard time.

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Speaker 1: When Ohio State lost last year to Oregon and Autson,

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Speaker 1: I came on the air and said They're going to

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Speaker 1: meet again and Ohio State's going to beat them, and

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Speaker 1: then maybe for the national championship. I did not believe

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Speaker 1: that Oregon was necessarily better than Ohio State, but it

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Speaker 1: was auson playing in Columbus against that defense. Arch Manning's

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Speaker 1: biggest game. Come on, that's fourteen to seven when that

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Speaker 1: the final score, low scoring game. I actually think Texas

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Speaker 1: doesn't match up well in my opinion with Georgia. I

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Speaker 1: think Texas matches up with everybody, everybody really well. So

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Speaker 1: that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekday

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Speaker 2: said noon Eastern non a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, you know, I've never been a hat on

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Speaker 1: backwards guy, especially for quarterbacks or head coaches, but I

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Speaker 1: like my bourbon neat and my coaches shirtless. After I

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Speaker 1: saw Ben Johnson this weekend, now I suggested that I

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Speaker 1: will consider going shirtless if I go five and zero

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Speaker 1: on the Blazing Five at any point the remainder of

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Speaker 1: the season. The good news for the staff is I

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Speaker 1: went two and three this weekend, so that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: The games are getting tougher to pick. The Bears are

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Speaker 1: interesting because takeaways unbelievable running game, unbelievable, coaching amazing. Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams good, especially in the fourth quarter. Accuracy not ideal,

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Speaker 1: but in fairness, they're number two in the league in

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Speaker 1: big plays. You know that matters to me? Here is

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback earlier on the Bears.

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Speaker 10: Their quarterback has to be better with accuracy, better with

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Speaker 10: ball placement, Like that's the next step for him. Last

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Speaker 10: year I said, you need to take less sacks, I

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Speaker 10: need better body language, and need you to be a

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Speaker 10: better leader and kind.

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Speaker 4: Of protect the team.

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Speaker 10: He's done all those things, like hats off to him

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Speaker 10: and hats off to Ben Johnson. But again, the schedule

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Speaker 10: will get tougher. Do I think they'll be the one

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Speaker 10: seed at the end of this No, I don't do.

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Speaker 10: I think they're a really good team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I do.

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Speaker 1: I will say this. I'm not a believer that buys

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Speaker 1: help a lot in football. Remember years ago Tennessee Vrabel

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Speaker 1: had to buy Cincinnati walked in young play well beat him.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I do think buys can help if you're a really,

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Speaker 1: really old team. Kansas City Travis Kelsey gets another week,

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones gets another week. I think for an old,

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Speaker 1: old team that's not Chicago. I think Chicago needs to

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Speaker 1: keep playing and keep winning. If I'm Seattle, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to buy week. If I'm Green Bay or Chicago,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to buy week. If I'm New England,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to buy week. I think if you're Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: you made that coaching staff may need an extra week.

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Speaker 1: They've got they've you know, they got some older players.

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Speaker 1: You know, if Pittsburgh squeezed in, I think Pittsburgh went

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Speaker 1: won a week off. But I'm not with Chicago. You

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Speaker 1: know a lot of their you know the other thing

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Speaker 1: about Chicago, Jalen Johnson, right sweat, DJ Moore. You know

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Speaker 1: a lot of their players, Joe Tooney, Drew Dolman. You

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Speaker 1: know a lot of their better players are still in

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Speaker 1: their prime. Let's look at Chicago's schedule going forward. Everybody

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Speaker 1: pointed to the Philadelphia game is the rough one? Well,

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Speaker 1: is green Bay the rough one? Because after green Bay

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Speaker 1: it's Cleveland at home. They get Detroit at home. So

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Speaker 1: Detroit doesn't look very good. Cleveland doesn't look very good.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the at green Bay game, I

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Speaker 1: think green Bay and the Bears are gonna split I

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Speaker 1: think at San Francisco is a very winnable game. But

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Speaker 1: we keep saying, well they got to go to Baltimore. Well,

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Speaker 1: now they lost that and they're still flying. Well they

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Speaker 1: gotta go to Cincinnati and Burrow Burl wasn't there. Well,

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Speaker 1: they have to, they have to, you know. The bottom

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Speaker 1: line is they keep answering the test. And yes they

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Speaker 1: lost against Minnesota to start the season, they would not

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Speaker 1: lose now. So it's like I said about the Miami Hurricanes,

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Speaker 1: you know, playing Florida State. When they beat them, they

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Speaker 1: were good. So right now the playoff picture is the

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Speaker 1: Bears Rams. So the Rams are an interesting team. Jmac

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Speaker 1: the Rams, Devonte Adams, Matt Stafford, Rob Haven time, the

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Speaker 1: right tackle. There's an argument the Rams are one of

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Speaker 1: those teams that a bye would do them good. They're

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Speaker 1: right tackle old, they're quarterback old, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Puka gets banged up, Devonte Adams. There's an argument the

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Speaker 1: Rams using a bye. Philadelphia bye would help. I think

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Speaker 1: Tampa's been banged up all year. They could use a bye.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to get one. Chicago, Seattle, Green Bay, no,

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Speaker 1: thanks your thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Well, using a bye would be huge for say Detroit,

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Speaker 7: which doesn't have Amara Saint Brown for at least two weeks. Colin,

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Speaker 7: that means no Amara Saint Brown this week and then

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Speaker 7: the following week, which is against the Rams.

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Speaker 8: That is devastating.

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Speaker 1: I don't see.

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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, Dallas. You know, I was shocked that

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Speaker 7: Detroit's favored over Dallas on Thursday. And I know, I

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Speaker 7: just don't think people are.

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Speaker 8: Seeing like Detroit the way they should. Colin. Detroit's not

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Speaker 8: great right now. They're beat up on the interior line.

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Speaker 8: What a Dallas? Just be fun? Quinnin Williams, who's wrecking people?

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Speaker 7: Are you taking Dallas against Detroit this Thursday?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 7: I don't see how you can't. What's the argument for Detroit, Colin?

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Speaker 7: What are they doing well right now? Well, you know,

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Speaker 7: they were so good on fourth down. Now they're a

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Speaker 7: bad third down team. They're a bad fourth down team. Well,

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Speaker 7: they can't run the ball.

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Speaker 1: That was the Ben Johnson secret, sauce the trick plays

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Speaker 1: third down decided. They were so good in these crisis plays,

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Speaker 1: especially in the red zone. They were so good. Now

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Speaker 1: they're not. And we never thought they had the best

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Speaker 1: defense at personnel or the best most mobile athletic quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We thought they were so good, play design, play calling,

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Speaker 1: third down, fourth down, they're not anymore.

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Speaker 7: You know who's really good offensively? The Dallas Cowboys. Did

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Speaker 7: you see how many times McDuffie was grabbing an He

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Speaker 7: could not keep up with Pickens and Lamb like the

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Speaker 7: Kansas City struggled. But Dallas's offenses, I mean we joked

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Speaker 7: that they were like the Bengals, right, the Bengals of

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Speaker 7: the NFC.

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Speaker 8: They might be better. I don't know, like, how do

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Speaker 8: you stop that offense? Right now?

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Speaker 7: They just beat the two teams that were in the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl pretty convincingly in back to back games.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they were better than Kansas City. Yeah, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: start getting into certain conversations like Hall of Fame votes are.

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Speaker 8: Oh oh wow, whoa, that's a quantum leap.

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Speaker 1: All of the AI. There's gonna be all sorts of

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Speaker 1: quantum leaves.