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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 1: are excited to hang out with all of you for

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Speaker 1: the next three hours. Let me hit you with the

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Speaker 1: guests that we have coming down the pike here in

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Speaker 1: the second hour, the chairman of the FCC will be

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Speaker 1: with us, and then that is Brendan Carr. There are

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Speaker 1: a bunch of moving parts in the FCC, but probably

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Speaker 1: has not been following it as closely as I have.

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Speaker 1: But also the Paramount versus Netflix battle for Warner Brothers

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Speaker 1: has really heated up, and I love all these media

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Speaker 1: stories and so may I have some questions about that

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Speaker 1: and more. At two point thirty we will be joined

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Speaker 1: by the FDA Commissioner, Marty McCarey, and we will dive

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Speaker 1: into a bunch of different discussions with him. So both

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Speaker 1: of those stories are on the horizon, Both of those

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Speaker 1: guests on the horizon as well. Several things that are

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Speaker 1: happening as we start off the day. Hillary Clinton is

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Speaker 1: testifying about Jeffrey Epstein and basically she is saying I've

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Speaker 1: never met him and I've never been on his plane. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: her husband, Bill Clinton will testify and we'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens there.

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Speaker 2: I just really want her to look into the cameras

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Speaker 2: and go, what difference at this point does it make?

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Speaker 2: Just for old time's sake, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Just go full Hillary, go full.

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Speaker 1: Halt, And here is that cut that Buck just referenced

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Speaker 1: old school producer Greg on the ball, This is a

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Speaker 1: flashback to twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 3: What difference at this point doesn't make.

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that we had that on the

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Speaker 2: cut sheet. That was a mind meld there. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: There's a story that I think should be a way

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Speaker 1: bigger story. In fact, I know she doesn't do media

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Speaker 1: very often, but producer, Dolly, can you put in a

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Speaker 1: request for Susie Wiles, the chief of staff for President Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing she's probably not gonna want to come on

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Speaker 1: the show because she doesn't do very much media at all.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've only seen her speak in public a

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Speaker 1: few times. She's doing a great job. But Buck, this

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Speaker 1: story is wild. There are reports that Susie Wiles, when

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Speaker 1: she was Donald Trump's campaign manager in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four election, was under surveillance, as was Cash Ptel, who

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Speaker 1: is now the director of the FBI. But that Susie

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Speaker 1: Wiles's own attorney was aware that their conversation was being

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Speaker 1: listened to by the FBI, but she was not. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen that report? I just as a lawyer, the

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Speaker 1: number of situation. First of all, I can't imagine ever

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Speaker 1: this to occur. This report, this story is out there.

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Speaker 1: The fact that she was under FBI surveillance while being

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Speaker 1: the campaign manager is crazy in and of itself. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is much more of a substantial infringement, probably than

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Speaker 1: anything related to Watergate. But that her attorney would have

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much attention you've paid to

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Speaker 1: that buck, but it's one that I think there could

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Speaker 1: be more revelations from, and I would actually like to

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Speaker 2: Well, if you think about it, it's not surprising at

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Speaker 2: all that the previous administration would have done that. One

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Speaker 2: verbally slapping around the Democrats here and there was that

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Speaker 2: essentially most almost all of those politicians wanted, hoped and

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Speaker 2: in prison, actually in prison. Now we have gone past this,

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Speaker 2: We have you know, moved on, I think quite a

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Speaker 2: I know it's been you know, a year and a

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Speaker 2: Trump and not trying to ensnare If you're going to

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Speaker 2: I mean, they really were after him. And I think

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Speaker 2: there are still crazies out there trying to trying to

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Speaker 2: we forget that it was completely normalized among Democrats to

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just oh, we're gonna illicitly remove him from

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Speaker 2: It's not talked about anymore. Remember they tried to take

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Speaker 2: that was the plan here. And I just think that

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Speaker 2: so when you read this stuff, Clay, I think there's

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Speaker 2: even more that we don't know about. That's going to

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Speaker 1: And there's also reports and look, you and I told

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this a lot. But I know

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Speaker 1: it's easy to forget their plan, and it was foiled by,

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Speaker 1: thankfully judges who actually applied the law. But their plan

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Speaker 1: was to keep President Trump in courtrooms. They started in

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Speaker 1: I think some of you sometimes, I think Buck, because

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Speaker 3: Trump stood up and.

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Speaker 1: Spoke for nearly two hours at eighty years old, in

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Speaker 1: no ill effects at all. I do think it's worth

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Speaker 1: constantly reminding people of the difference between Joe Biden and

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Speaker 1: President Trump, just from a physical and mental capacity. With

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Speaker 1: for a lot of you that are in your seventies,

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Speaker 2: I recently had to do clay A a commercial of sorts,

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Speaker 2: because you know, a lot got a lot of hats,

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Speaker 2: a lot of things going on. Speaking of hats, number

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Speaker 2: four in the New York Times bestseller list, it's not

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Speaker 2: really a happy gratulations. Thank you, everyone.

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Speaker 1: I want there to be an investigation into John Meacham

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Speaker 1: ending up in front of you on.

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Speaker 2: Absolute absolute nonsense total is like.

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Speaker 3: Biden getting eighty one million votes.

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Speaker 2: Me too, There's just no way because I know it

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Speaker 2: is Amazon ranking so somehow, I mean, I know that

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Speaker 2: him on Amazon. I talked about this, which is where

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Speaker 2: He wasn't even top ten on Amazon after the first

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Speaker 2: York Times bestseller list. Really really uh, someone explained that

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Speaker 2: you know, left wing Kamala voters. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's enough to make up for the deficit on unless

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Speaker 2: they were doing bulk. But now there's all these games

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Speaker 2: they play too. They go, oh, well, there were bulk buys.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't have any major book buys

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Speaker 2: it's actually really good and there's real research in it,

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Speaker 2: like when Clay bench pressed two twenty five ten times

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Speaker 1: audio book of Manufacturing Delusion, which is entirely read by

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, thank you. Oh but going back to hats

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Speaker 2: other than the book, which is a New York Times bestseller, yeay,

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Speaker 2: go get your copy Manufacturing Delusion. It's act a good book.

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Speaker 2: But I did an infomercial basically like a commercial. You know,

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Speaker 2: gotta pay bills and.

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Speaker 3: Where's this going to air? I just want to know.

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Speaker 1: Am I gonna look up on television and just see

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Speaker 2: I mean, white sham wow. But it was stuff, you know,

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Speaker 2: it said, very nice product. Sometimes Buckster's got a hustle.

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Speaker 2: The point is I had to stand up for like

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Speaker 2: So Trump being up there because I got I got

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Speaker 1: Look, and I think that's a credit to Trump. Now,

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Speaker 2: I've got to tell you, I'm seeing some numbers that

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Speaker 3: Jasmine Crockett won the Democrat nomination.

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Speaker 2: She is not. It is not the Tallerico campaign. It's

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Speaker 2: clearly a doable situation. This is what I'm hearing, this

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Speaker 1: How many of our listeners do you think in fact,

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Speaker 2: You mean Russia's Operation Chaos continues on? Is Operation Chaos

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Speaker 2: the topic of the moment from a minute ago. John

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Speaker 6: Jason Crockett, there we.

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Speaker 1: Is this a big discussion right now in Texas among Republicans? John,

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Speaker 1: Do you get the sense that lots of people are

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Speaker 4: No, man, I'm in Austin. There are any Republicans?

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Speaker 2: Yea fair.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna keep the phone lines open. Phil in Houston

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Speaker 6: Phil also am a lifelong Conservative, but I'm registered as

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Speaker 6: And I voted for Jasmin Crockett. Never have voted in

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Speaker 1: Safe loaded lines Texans confessing to showing up to vote

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Speaker 1: Before we get to some of these calls, with a

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Speaker 7: And I thought Jasmine would be an easier one to defeat.

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Speaker 1: You are comfortable with, you said either Ken Paxton, John

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Speaker 7: Yeah, any one of them would be better than Jasmine

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, James in Texas, how have you analyzed

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Clay?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna assume Greg promoted to you that I'm going

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit concerned about is that either Paxton

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Speaker 4: little concerned about is that no matter who wins the

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Speaker 4: We're gonna need that other group to come support the

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Yes, that is he's one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent right Buck. How many callers did we have

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Speaker 1: say they were so upset that Trump won the primary

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Speaker 1: that they were not going to show up. People wanted

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Speaker 1: to throw fits in March and April of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh wait, did we get Did we get people

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Speaker 2: yelling us from both sides saying that we were too

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Speaker 2: pro Trump or too pro DeSantis or yes, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: just just mad at us over that whole thing. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and what did we say? You don't want the communists

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Speaker 2: to ruin the country. You're going to show up and

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Speaker 2: vote for Trump. And that is what happened, and then

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Speaker 2: and then everyone lived happily ever after. That is how

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Speaker 2: this goes. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And so I am skeptical that even yes, I get

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Speaker 1: it that passions are intense right now and you want

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Speaker 1: your guy to win. But I am very skeptical that

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Speaker 1: very many people will stay home when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the actual midterms if they were to be fair. We

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Speaker 1: are the dinner table where the frustrated Republican uncle can

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Speaker 1: just let it rip sometimes.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's fine. We're here for that too, That's fine.

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Speaker 2: You know we take that. That's no problem.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The number of people who vote in primaries and don't

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Speaker 1: show up to vote in generals is infinitesimally small right

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Speaker 1: right now. If you care enough to have the best

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Speaker 1: Republican candidate possible, I think you care enough to not

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Speaker 1: have a communist Yeah, I think so. So the number

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Speaker 1: of people who vote in primaries and do not show

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Speaker 1: up to vote in generals is almost non existent. Right

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Speaker 1: if you're and we want all of you to go

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Speaker 1: vote in the primary, but the number of you who

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Speaker 1: are doing that that will not show up when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the general because your guy or gal didn't

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Speaker 1: win is very low. Jamie and Houston, I.

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Speaker 8: Did not vote for Jasmine, but I am a ready

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Speaker 8: Republican and if someone gave up, I just think our

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Speaker 8: govnitorial races and all of that are extremely important right now,

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Speaker 8: Attorney general. So I would never vote out of the party,

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Speaker 8: and these people will voting for her. I get the strategy,

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Speaker 8: but we need it now. We need good candidates on

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Speaker 8: the Republican side running in November.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I get the challenge.

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Speaker 1: Strategically, I think there is a one hundred percent chance

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Speaker 1: that Jasmine Crockett will lose. I think that James Talerico

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Speaker 1: will lose as well. But if you are out there

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Speaker 1: and you are of the perspective, hey, I'm fine with

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Speaker 1: the Republican candidate, whether it's Ken Paxton, whether it's John Cornyn,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Wesley Hunt. I'm fine with any of those three.

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Speaker 1: As one of our callers just said he was. Then

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Speaker 1: if you want to guarantee your side wins, you can

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Speaker 1: do it in the primary by voting for Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 1: There Again, I rarely say there's a zero percent chance

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Speaker 1: of something happening there.

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Speaker 3: Book.

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Speaker 1: Are you signing on here with ke or can I

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Speaker 1: just point something out because I feel like.

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Speaker 2: You were a little uh, you were a little dismissive

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Speaker 2: when I was saying when Jasmine Crockett was saying crazy stuff,

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Speaker 2: rewind the tape six months, I said, Clay, she's building

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Speaker 2: her brand. Yeah, she's an imbecile. It doesn't matter. She's

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Speaker 2: building her visibility, her name recognition, and now here we are.

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Speaker 2: And it's the situation where even if she you know,

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Speaker 2: even if she loses, she wins, even if she's not

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Speaker 2: somebody who's able.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree.

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Speaker 1: One of the most distute things you have said in

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Speaker 1: five years with me and I can't beat it, is Wow,

503
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Speaker 1: no one loses by running for president.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Even if you lose, people know you.

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Speaker 1: More, you make more money from speaking, you end up

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Speaker 1: in the cabinet, whatever it is. I can't think of

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Speaker 1: a guy or gal who's run for president and lost

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Speaker 1: even once, a guy Asa Hutchinson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Veik ran the most preposterous presidential campaign

511
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Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. Okay, which will I

512
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Speaker 2: love Donald Trump so much that I'm going to be

513
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Speaker 2: president so that he can be my mentor. He was

514
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Speaker 2: actually saying this stuff, but now he's probably gonna be

515
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Speaker 2: governor of Ohio. Huge national recognition from this. Maga loved

516
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Speaker 2: what he had to say. He obviously never attacked Trump,

517
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Speaker 2: so the game worked. But I mean, the whole thing

518
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Speaker 2: was like, this is like the weirdest thing I've ever seen.

519
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Speaker 2: He's up there, He's like, I'm running so that Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump can mentor me. It's like, yeah, buddy, sure that's

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Speaker 2: what Trump wants to do. He wants to not be

522
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Speaker 2: president and let you make the decisions, but he'll call

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Speaker 2: you sometime. Because the whole thing was like we were idiots,

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Speaker 2: but it worked.

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Speaker 3: Alan In lost.

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Speaker 1: By the way, let me just say this, Democrats are

527
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Speaker 1: much more diabolical when it comes to voting strategically to

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Speaker 1: get people who can win. Usually, and this is why

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Speaker 1: we said last week or the week before whenever it happened.

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Speaker 1: It was not a coincidence that James Tallerico was scheduled

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Speaker 1: on Stephen Colbert Show that they.

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Speaker 3: Canceled canceled the inner on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: He made two point four million dollars on the day

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Speaker 1: that early voting started. Democrats know that Jasmine Crockett has

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Speaker 1: no chance, and they want here's the other thing they want.

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Speaker 1: Even if James Tallerico loses, they want Republicans to have

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Speaker 1: to expend substantial dollars in Texas that could otherwise be

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Speaker 1: spent because the money is fungible. Right, if you have

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Speaker 1: to spend in to protect your guy in Texas, then

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Speaker 1: you don't get to spend as much in Michigan, or

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Speaker 1: you don't get to spend as much in New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: or Georgia, where that money could end up flipping a seat.

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Speaker 1: You have to instead protect your own. So even if

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Speaker 1: tall Rico loses, they know that they are going to

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Speaker 1: force the Democrat the Republicans to spend more money.

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Speaker 2: Can I just tell you real quick that this is

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Speaker 2: where the Democrat Jasmine Crockett, if she's gonna if she's

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Speaker 2: gonna do the Democrat playbook, it's time for a fake

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Speaker 2: hate crime. It's time for like someone wrote, someone wrote

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Speaker 2: very bad things on the you know the door of

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Speaker 2: my fault.

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Speaker 3: It's racial slur.

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Speaker 1: Time for Jasmine Crockett to really like fake fake this week,

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Speaker 1: fake hate crime time is where we are right now.

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Speaker 2: She would ray she'd raise ten million dollars in a day,

556
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Speaker 2: and you know what, when it all came out to

557
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: this fake, she'd be like, I was just raising awareness.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

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Speaker 3: This is what I always say.

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Speaker 1: If being a victim of a crime is the greatest

562
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Speaker 1: thing that could happen to you, maybe we should all

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more skeptical about the fact that

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Speaker 1: you were a victim.

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Speaker 2: Of crime, especially if the crime is mean words. If

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Speaker 2: the crime is mean words like and you become.

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Speaker 1: A point where you don't actually have any like if

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Speaker 1: you get punched in the face, like okay, that sucks,

569
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Speaker 1: Like getting hit in the face hurts somebody saying something

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Speaker 1: mean and you get paid millions of dollars because of it,

571
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Speaker 1: and it makes you more likely to gain power, we

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Speaker 1: should definitely be a lot more skeptical. I still think

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Speaker 1: we don't talk enough about how funny the Jesse smile.

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Speaker 2: I was just going there. The did Jesse Smell that

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Speaker 2: documentary on Netflix? I know it does eventually do the

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Speaker 2: like Jesse says that he's still out there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's oj hunting for the real killers. Like we all

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Speaker 2: know it's so preposterous, but the cops going through the

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Speaker 2: like this is what happened? Thing is just it couldn't

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Speaker 2: be any funnier, like them just sharing their recollection of

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, so he's standing there in his own apartment

582
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Speaker 2: still with the noose around his neck. What is that?

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Speaker 2: Who would do?

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Speaker 1: And also, I mean it was wasn't at like two

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Speaker 1: am on the coldest day in the in Chicago and

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of random dudes in maga hats supposedly

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Speaker 1: who recognized Jesse Smallette. The one percent of Trump voters

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Speaker 1: have any idea at that time who Jesse's They're watching

589
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Speaker 1: Empire and they're aware that he's gay and opposed to Trump,

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Speaker 1: and they're so concerned about him that they're waiting outside.

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Speaker 1: But no, I wouldn't stand outside in two at two

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Speaker 1: am if it's cold, Like, I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 1: the funniest stories out there. No human being had ever

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Speaker 1: said this is my good country.

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Speaker 2: Until Jesse Smollett told the cops that that's what his

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Speaker 2: attacker said. It's not even a thing. He knows so

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Speaker 2: little about trumphoters that he didn't even know how to

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Speaker 2: pretend to be attacked by Trump phone.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be the first time you've ever heard

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Speaker 1: me say a positive thing about the Minneapolis protesters. Buck,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't protest anything if it's zero degrees like I

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Speaker 1: If it is, I would have watched the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: If you gave me tickets and it's zero degrees outside,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, you know what, this is amazing. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stay in the heat. People made fun of me.

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Speaker 1: If you remember my University of Tennessee played a game

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Speaker 1: against Ohio State. They were like, yeah, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like five degrees at kick. I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in my house. I also thought we

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Speaker 1: were gonna get beat but I was like, I'll be

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Speaker 1: in sixty eight degrees seventy degrees climate controlled comfort. There

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Speaker 1: is nothing I would protest at zero degrees outside. It's

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Speaker 1: too cold all in Las Vegas. Let me hit you

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Speaker 1: really quick. You got thirty seconds. Then we got to

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Speaker 1: get to break.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just one of the way on the crocket race.

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Speaker 6: I love the Republican strategy here. Politics is a dirty game,

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Speaker 6: and nobody was better than dirty Harry Reid here in Nevada.

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Speaker 6: He knew that there are less voters in the primary.

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Speaker 6: He would hand pick the opponent and shape a narrative.

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Speaker 6: And it's good to see our side is starting to

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Speaker 6: learn some of that and take advantage.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Ah, we'll come back. We have also a throwback

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Speaker 2: that you're definitely gonna want to hear about this whole situation.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to it in a moment. A good night's

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Speaker 1: They laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: think we do have time for this. I was wondering

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Speaker 2: about how the clock would work on it, but we

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Speaker 2: were talking Operation Chaos. Let's hear from the one and

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Speaker 2: only Rush Limbaugh on Operation Chaos. This is back in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, cut thirty two.

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Speaker 9: Operation Chaos created by me two thousand and eight. Get

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Speaker 9: Republicans in primary states where their votes no longer manicers

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Speaker 9: mccainnean become the nominee, switch over and vote for Hillary

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Speaker 9: to keep the Democrat race going. Now the media is

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Speaker 9: talking about Operation Chaos happening in Texas. They're talking about

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Speaker 9: happening in North Carolina, South Carolina, Well not South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: It's Super Tuesday states.

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Speaker 9: And here is a Collins the Washington Post again. I

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Speaker 9: was at an event last night where an experienced Texas

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Speaker 9: analysts said that five pers This is a huge number,

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Speaker 9: by the way, five percent of the Texas Democrat early

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Speaker 9: vote from people who had voted in the Republican primary

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Speaker 9: in the past four state wide elections twenty twelve to eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Operation can Republican vote five percent?

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Speaker 9: Five percent of the Texas Democrat early but that's huge.

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Speaker 2: Is Republican voters crossing up? That is a major Operation

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Speaker 2: Chaos Operation there you go, rush fucking Operation Chaos and

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Speaker 2: Texas no less well, the data shows buck that there

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Speaker 2: have been more votes cast in the Democrat primary so

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Speaker 2: far than the Republican primary.

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Speaker 1: Now, Democrats tend to early vote more as a standard,

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Speaker 1: but I'm feeling like, based on the calls and the

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Speaker 1: responses we're getting, certainly there are going to be tens

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Speaker 1: of thousands, maybe more of Republican voters that are out

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Speaker 1: there for Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 2: We need to invite Jasmin Crockett on the show. I

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Speaker 2: just told producer ally to extend the invite