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Speaker 3: Good mornings, swirl and welcome to the NODWKS podcast on

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Speaker 3: the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, March second.

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Speaker 2: J E.

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Speaker 3: Skeet's rolling this morning with my top shot boy, Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 3: Hel Hey, yo, we got the international man of mystery

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Speaker 3: taking it to the Max Lee Ellis man last, but

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Speaker 4: Hello, there is and here we are.

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Speaker 3: I actually sort of want to go and change into

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Speaker 3: a turtleneck and blazer right now. Man, that's a catchy

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Speaker 3: little jam, isn't it. Good luck too the sophistication shout

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Speaker 3: out to the stream team joining us live right now

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Speaker 3: on YouTube. Back to our normal ten am shift. We

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Speaker 3: were filling in for Bob who had to leave work

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Speaker 3: the Classic Factory. Please like, comment, subscribe. I also got

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Speaker 3: a kick out of everyone dropping beans under yesterday's show

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll maybe we'll just sort of get into this

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Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, maybe it happens organically. But I

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Speaker 3: did enjoy everyone putting beans because what were those the

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Speaker 3: Whole Foods three sixty five beans? They hit a little different.

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Speaker 5: We could do a different bean to day. You know,

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Speaker 5: you got chick peas, you got your kidney beans, you

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a forest gump bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right. The NBA has like their NBA

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Speaker 3: We could have our No Dung's Bean Week. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: love it all right, Well, what bean do you want

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Speaker 5: You give me some red kidney beans. I think they're

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Speaker 5: talking any garnishments with it there. Red bean.

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Speaker 3: You don't talk about food so largely, just like your

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Speaker 3: Bean week here. Yeah, I didn't know it.

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Speaker 4: This is great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, emails your questions and comments for Tomorrow's a Beach

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Speaker 3: And finally here guys, immaculate items always available for sale

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Speaker 3: over at No dunks dot com. I think we sort

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Speaker 3: of got to work on a bean shirt now, right,

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Speaker 3: those in a second. But we had some news, some

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Speaker 3: big news yesterday. The Atlanta Hawks fired head coach Lloyd

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Speaker 3: entering this season with high aspirations you know'll playoff aspirations.

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Speaker 5: Disappointed more than shocked. I think this is a classic

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Speaker 5: And then of course Bogdanovich came in. Now that was

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Speaker 5: He's a good defensive player, okay, one decent defensive player.

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Speaker 5: But and look, DeAndre Hunt has been injured as well.

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Speaker 5: season and the worst net rating at minus eight point two. Okay,

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Speaker 5: a lot of injuriest to some of your younger players,

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Speaker 5: which is not good signings at all. And the Hawks

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Speaker 5: should for Lloyd Piers Greg Popovich spoke about it. Now.

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Speaker 5: Popovich worked with Lloyd Piers for the Team USA last season,

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Speaker 5: That seems to be what happens at the past. I'm

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Speaker 5: You know, with a young player showing the potential that

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Speaker 5: for me, this is a bad look for the Hawks,

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Speaker 3: Okay, a lot to unpack there from Ley. What do

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Speaker 4: I think that Lee is right on a lot of this.

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Speaker 4: I do think that this is certainly too early. This

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Speaker 4: All those fourth quarter leads blowing those that's a problem.

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Speaker 4: unfortunately they're saying that Lloyd's the guy that's got to

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Speaker 4: but I don't know. With expectations and crumbling underneath the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the kiss of death for a coach

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Speaker 3: right now this season is, you know, don't be too

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Speaker 3: happened with Ryan Saunders. We talked about it. The Wolves

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Speaker 3: the same thing was happening here to the Hawks unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: and Lloyd Pierce is acts. I think what you're saying

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Speaker 3: Let's not pretend like Travis Schlank is like just designed

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Speaker 3: some like diabolical like sort of GM move here that

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Speaker 3: time doesn't mean it's right, but it happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: I think, what's weird, and you guys are saying it

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Speaker 3: Let's fire him.

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Speaker 5: throughout Rondo's career he's ever helped to develop a backup

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Speaker 5: He's there for himself and he's there for his paycheck,

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Speaker 3: Well, he steps up in the playoffs too, if you're

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Speaker 3: So that was a blow. McMillan, though, coached about twelve

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Speaker 4: And the team's gonna play hard, and they're gonna look

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what happened with the Bulls. You know, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just does suck too. I mean, everybody likes

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Speaker 4: That's impossible, skeets Joakim Noah is no doubt my favorite

431
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 4: Chicago Bull post nineteen ninety eight. So instead, I'm gonna hit.

432
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 7: You with a top five, top five, top five, top five,

433
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 7: top by top five, top five, top by, top five.

434
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 4: Oh, Joaquim Noah, what a Chicago legend. Top five favorite

435
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 4: Joakim Noah moments. It starts with the very first Chicago

436
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,959
Speaker 4: Bulls Joaquim Noah moment. We're talking Draft Night two thousand

437
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 4: and seven, the Bulls get the number nine pick. He

438
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 4: used to belong to the Knicks, and Joaquim Noah shows

439
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 4: up first of all with his hair down. You know,

440
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 4: we usually saw him with this hair pulled back there

441
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 4: at Florida's. That was a great look. He throws the

442
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 4: hat on top. He's got the bow tie, the linen

443
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 4: cream striped suit. If I'm not mistaken. Nathaniel Friedman at

444
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 4: Free Darko he said he looked like every Batman villain

445
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 4: at once during this draft, and I will never forget that.

446
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 4: A legendary fit, not a super well received draft picked

447
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 4: by the Bulls. There was a lot of people who

448
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 4: wanted Spencer Hawes. Myself, I wanted Noah. I was a

449
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 4: big fan, you know, a little behind the scenes. Laura

450
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 4: and I fell in love during the two thousand and

451
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 4: seven NCAA tournament won by the University of Florida. I

452
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 4: can remember watching Joe Kim Noah playing during that tournament

453
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 4: out with out at the bars with our friends. You know,

454
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 4: I think we watched the final four at her parents'

455
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 4: house back in the day. So when the Bulls picked him,

456
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 4: I love it. I mean I wore thirteen all through

457
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 4: high school. He was wearing my high school basketball number.

458
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 4: He wore it for the Bulls. I decided back then,

459
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 4: someday I'm gonna have long Joaquim Noah hair in a

460
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 4: phony tail. It only took another twelve years, but it

461
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 4: was totally worth it. Number four joe Quim Noah's Game

462
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,959
Speaker 4: seven twenty thirteen first round performance against the Brooklyn Nets.

463
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 4: The Bulls at this point were starting Nate Robinson and

464
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 4: Marco Bellinelli in the back court, and Joe Kim Noah

465
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 4: guaranteed a Game seven playoff win against the Nets. Despite

466
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: playing with Planter fasci Iis, Noah gave forty one minutes

467
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 4: to the Bulls twenty four points, fourteen rebounds, six blocks,

468
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 4: two assists. The Bulls got the win. H This was

469
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 4: an incredible game. I came right after, or very soon

470
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 4: after the Nate rob game where he had twenty seven

471
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 4: and a fourth quarter. Yeah, put the team on his back.

472
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: That was. That was some incredible stuff from Joakim Noah,

473
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 4: a gutsy win. I think they went on to play

474
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 4: the Heat in the second round and took game one

475
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 4: off them, which is where we come to my number

476
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 4: three favorite. Joakim Noah moment several moments. Unfortunately, this one's

477
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 4: just called trash talking because Noah was a legendary instigator.

478
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 4: The pinnacle for me, Noah clapping in Chris Bosh and

479
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: Mario Chalmer's face at the freedow. Oh, this was so good.

480
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: Noah's beefs really started with Kevin Garnett back in the playoffs.

481
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: I guess here's a here's a story from Ray Allen.

482
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 4: He said, KG backed Noah down, turned around, pump, fake step,

483
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 4: side side shot the ball from the baseline. Next time

484
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: down the floor, Joe Cam Noah goes big fellow. That

485
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 4: was a great move. How'd you do that? I want

486
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: you to teach me that. KG was like, man, get

487
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: off my dick. That's awesome because Joe Kim Noah his

488
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett. He tried to

489
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: model himself after Kevin Garnett. I mean, the games weren't

490
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 4: the same, but certainly the intensity getting under the opponent's

491
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 4: skin that was all the same. So to be beefing

492
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: with Kevin Garnett probably felt terrible but also awesome at

493
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: the same time. The grudge with Lebron legendary. Who can

494
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: forget his interview where he said Cleveland really sucks. I

495
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 4: don't know about this place. Man said this on an

496
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: interview with TNT. I just stayed in my hotel room.

497
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 4: Every time I look out my window. It's pretty depressing here. Man.

498
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: It's bad. It's bad. No going out in Cleveland. It's

499
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 4: all factories. So good. Postgame later in the series, somebody

500
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 4: asked him about this, Noah said, you think Cleveland's cool.

501
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 4: I've never heard anybody say I'm going to Cleveland on vacation.

502
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: What's so good about Cleveland? So good? There's obviously the

503
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: picture of Noah getting the finger from the original court

504
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: side Karen.

505
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: There in Miami.

506
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 4: This guy you would hate him if he was not

507
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 4: on your team, but he was on my team. I

508
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: love him. Sure. The pinnacle though, for joking Noah as

509
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 4: a basketball player my number two moment the twenty thirteen

510
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: fourteen season. Joking Noah won Defensive Player of the Year.

511
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 4: He was first team All NBA Center. He finished fourth

512
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: in MVP voting. Just a tremendous season. You know, Derek

513
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 4: Rose blew out his knee ten games into the season.

514
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 4: Lual Dang was traded in January. It was just year

515
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: three for Jimmy Butler, but Noah would not let the

516
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 4: Bulls lose. He was point Noah this season. Twelve points

517
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: a whopping twelve points for Joki Noah, eleven rebounds, but

518
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 4: five assists, one point two steals, one point five blocks.

519
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: He was the first center to lead his team and

520
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: assists since Vladi Devots. This is very weird to think that,

521
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: you know what, seven seasons ago, a center leading the

522
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 4: team in assists was like a big deal or a

523
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 4: big guy handling the ball was still a big deal

524
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen, but Noah's fourteen assists in a game

525
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: were the most by a Bulls center and the most

526
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: by a center in the NBA since nineteen eighty six

527
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: at the time. Noah finished the month of March with

528
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty assists, the most by an NBA

529
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 4: center since Wilt Chamberlain had one hundred and fifty five

530
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 4: in March nineteen sixty eight. For one season only, Joakim

531
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 4: Noah was the best passing big man in thirty years,

532
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: twenty years something like that. It was very weird, but

533
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: he was the only way the balls were getting offense.

534
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: I remember, it was like grab a rebound. He's bringing

535
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: the ball up the corn as fast as he can

536
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: and trying to find somebody for an open shot. That

537
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: was a fun season to watch for Joe Kim Noah.

538
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: That was also what our very first season, uh doing

539
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 4: the starter starters. Yeah, yep, I remember saying Derek Roses

540
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 4: back at the beginning of that season. Short lived, but

541
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: got us a great Noa season, an incredible Noah season.

542
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 4: Brings us to my number one moment, no surprise duncan

543
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 4: Paul Pierce out of Game six in the two thousand

544
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 4: and nine first round series against the Celtics. Noah gets

545
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: the steal out on the wing. Pierce is trying to

546
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: catch him, but he can't do it, throw it down

547
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 4: on top of his head. The crowd goes crazy. This

548
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: to me is the best moment in balls basketball since

549
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: Game six, nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, not too long ago.

550
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: On the Happy Hour skeets what top shot I would

551
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 4: want from NBA history, I snapped and said Game six,

552
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 4: nineteen ninty eight. I should have said Game six, two

553
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 4: thousand and nine, because I don't know. You had to

554
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: be there, man, You had me watching it with great

555
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: and Gordian out at the bar back in the day.

556
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: Great stuff. You know, the Balls went on to lose

557
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: that series, but here we are, twelve years later. Everybody

558
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: still remembers that Balls Celtics first round series. So many

559
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: overtime games, and that was the best one to meet.

560
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: Three overtimes. You got Paul Pierce being dunked out of

561
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: the game, falling out there, Joe Kim Noah, Ugh United

562
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 4: Center going crazy, all a Chicago going crazy. We love

563
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: that guy ever since then?

564
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: Oh what a leshlee. Is there anything to add to that?

565
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: Well, I guess only only sort of personal memories. And

566
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 5: the first memory I have of him is when I

567
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 5: actually came back to Toronto and I was in New York

568
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 5: on my way through, and I went to a bar

569
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: with my mate, just just arrived and college game was

570
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: on and Florida was playing, and I saw this guy

571
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 5: with a big hair and you know, real intense guy,

572
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 5: clapping and cheering. And I saw at the back of

573
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 5: his name and I said, Noah. I said to my friend, Oh,

574
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: I wonder if that guy's got any connection to Yannick Noah.

575
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: Because yeah, it's his son.

576
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh really, really, I said, it's any good?

577
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

578
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: He's not too bad. He's not too bad.

579
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 5: He's like, he's a big energy guy in that, but

580
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 5: he can't really shoot or anything. I was like, Okay.

581
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: And then a couple of seasons later, when he got drafted,

582
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: you thought it's going to be tough to see what

583
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 5: he can get out of his career because he just

584
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 5: had such an ugly shot. But to turn that into

585
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: what Trajor said there, like fourth in MVP voting, first

586
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 5: team All NBA, leading a team, and assists just shows

587
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 5: that you don't have to be a great shooter to

588
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 5: be a great offensive player. You can affect the game

589
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: in other ways. And I thought that that was really

590
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 5: incredible about him.

591
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: And when I was at the Score, actually I did a.

592
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 5: Piece on him, and I went down to Bulls practice

593
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 5: and I wanted to speak to him, and I spoke

594
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 5: to the PR guy and I said, oh, can I

595
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 5: just peak the joke him Noah for a few minutes,

596
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 5: and he thought I was going to ask him about basketball,

597
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 5: and he must have had some tension with his coach

598
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: or something at the time. I can't remember, but he

599
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: was like, Nah, I don't want to do it. I

600
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: don't want to do it, and the guy came back

601
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 5: and said, no, he's not going to do it. Said

602
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 5: just tell him that it's not about like current stuff,

603
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 5: it's about his whole life and his career and everything.

604
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: And he came back and he said, Okay, you can

605
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 5: go and do it. So I went and spoke to

606
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: him about like growing up, you know, as the son

607
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: of Yannick Noah and then and then turning into an

608
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 5: NBA player and stuff.

609
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: And he was so fun.

610
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 5: He was so much fun to talk to because it

611
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 5: wasn't just the usual like you know, what do you

612
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 5: have to do to win the game tonight, Joe, and

613
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 5: and I've got a rebound, We've got a dfan, we've

614
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 5: got to run the ball like he was talking about

615
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: some other stuff and it was it was so cool

616
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 5: to speak to him like that. So, yeah, great player

617
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 5: and really did get for those three or four seasons.

618
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: They're an incredible player had that had those peak years

619
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 5: and then it sort of did tail off a little

620
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: bit unfortunately. And I was excited for him last season

621
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 5: when he got back to the Clippers because I follow

622
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 5: him on Instagram and he keeps himself ready, he keeps

623
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 5: himself in. Unfortunately, I remember I think it was even

624
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: maybe the scrimmage game he came out and played and

625
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: you could just tell he just he just lost it.

626
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 5: He just wasn't able to really impact the game and

627
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 5: he so I sat in for him. But an incredible

628
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 5: few years there that he had.

629
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: So Trey, should the Bulls retire his number?

630
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: Oh?

631
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: I know it's tough man.

632
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: The Dynasty changed the qualifications unfortunately, if you know, they

633
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: hadn't won six titles able to hang MJ and Scottie

634
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: Pippin up there, I would say for sure because of

635
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: the Bull's history prior to and after that. Joe Kim

636
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: Noah's right there. You know who can forget the twenty

637
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: fourteen All Star Game. Joekim Noah played the entire fourth quarter.

638
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: He's playing defense out there.

639
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: It's like Kyle Awrio there exactly right, exactly right.

640
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to see defense in an All Star Game,

641
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: but Joekim Noah will bring it. Ah, Yeah, why not?

642
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: I tire at thirteen twenty three, thirty three perfect?

643
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 5: Do you remember when Yanick Noah was being interviewed in

644
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: the stands and Joe blocked someone's shot account who and

645
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Speaker 5: you see Yanick is led.

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Speaker 3: No no no, no, No.

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Speaker 5: Like mid interview, he was like straight into it, which

648
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Speaker 5: was great.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's different people out there. I'm asking the bias

650
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Speaker 3: Bulls fan here, whether or not they retired, know is

651
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Speaker 3: really I think you are right. I think many other organizations,

652
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Speaker 3: I think it's a no brainer basically having played a

653
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Speaker 3: decade and having you know, a lot of success and

654
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Speaker 3: individual success, team success. But yeah, the Bulls, the Bulls

655
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Speaker 3: having all those titles and the iconic names already up there.

656
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't look, I don't think it diminishes

657
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Speaker 3: anything if you put them up there. But I think

658
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Speaker 3: more people will be like nahn, not Noah. But let

659
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Speaker 3: us know and we'll get the poll going and all that.

660
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Speaker 3: I'm sure. Final one here, that's great, great stuff. Love

661
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Speaker 3: that Top five TK. Just a little news here. Tonight's

662
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Speaker 3: Pistons Raptors game in Tampa postponed, tentatively still rescheduled for Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Last I saw at least Raptors dealing with COVID nineteen

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Speaker 3: related issues and their game Sunday against those Bulls. It

665
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Speaker 3: was going to be the No Dunk Bowl between Trey

666
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Speaker 3: and I. That one postponed because they couldn't feel to

667
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Speaker 3: require eight players due to the league's health and safety protocols.

668
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Speaker 3: Raptors short on coaching staff, showed on players. So we'll

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Speaker 3: see if this one happens on Wednesday. They were one

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Speaker 3: of the ris I know. I don't have the other

671
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Speaker 3: teams like the listed here, but I know the Raptors

672
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Speaker 3: were one of the rare teams that hadn't been affected

673
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Speaker 3: Leelee by you know, by COVID nineteen related issues and

674
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Speaker 3: having to miss games. I think it's maybe down to

675
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Speaker 3: three teams now, so almost every team has been, you know,

676
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Speaker 3: at some point in this year affected by it, and

677
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Speaker 3: the Raptors are the latest. So anything to add to

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Speaker 3: that not.

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Speaker 5: Really, It's just a bit of a weird situation though

680
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Speaker 5: that had they probably shouldn't have played their last game,

681
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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, that leads a lot of people scratching their

683
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Speaker 3: heads still with else going on. But anyway, the Raps

684
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Speaker 3: are maybe playing Wednesday, maybe not. We'll we'll find out.

685
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Speaker 3: All Right, we're gonna get to last night's big games,

686
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Speaker 3: big takeaways from those games, But first quick break to

687
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Speaker 3: hear from our sponsors. All Right, last night's games, let's

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Speaker 3: touch on a few of them here, we'll start with

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Speaker 3: James Harden. Another triple double helps the Nets escape in

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Speaker 3: overtime against the Spurs, wild ending to regulation in this

691
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Speaker 3: one Leley, but they get it done hard and Kyrie

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Speaker 3: no Katie, of course. What was your big takeaway?

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Speaker 5: A lot of good games on last night, actually a

694
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Speaker 5: lot of good action, and this was one that when

695
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Speaker 5: I look back at it, I thought, oh, the Spurs,

696
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Speaker 5: you know, they'll be a tough out, but I think

697
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Speaker 5: the Nets will win this. And the Nets were pretty

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Speaker 5: much home with just about over a minute or about

699
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Speaker 5: two minutes to go, and then the Spurs did go

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Speaker 5: on a run and it came down to that Dejonte

701
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Speaker 5: Murray kind of fumble losing the ball. It just kind

702
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Speaker 5: of flicked it at the rim, it went in and

703
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Speaker 5: it went into overtime. He thought, okay, maybe the Spurs

704
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Speaker 5: are a chance now they've fought back from a big deficit.

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Speaker 5: But in overtime was not the case at all. Very

706
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Speaker 5: rare that you actually see the double digits loss when

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Speaker 5: a team goes in when a game goes into overtime,

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Speaker 5: That's what happened. The Nets actually just cooked them in overtime,

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Speaker 5: and James Harden he continues to be incredible for the

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Speaker 5: Brooklyn Nets, and we talked about last week whether or

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Speaker 5: not he's at the MVP table, and you know, it

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Speaker 5: was kind of difficult to see him there. As long

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Speaker 5: as Kevin Durant's out, I think I think the waiter

714
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Speaker 5: is going to get another chair and putting him there.

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Speaker 5: But I do think, unfortunately for him and his chances,

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Speaker 5: when Kevin Durant comes back, I think they take a

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Speaker 5: knock because I think you look at that team and

718
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Speaker 5: think Kevin Durant is the MVP that team. He's been

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Speaker 5: incredible when he's been playing this season. But I will

720
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Speaker 5: give full credit to everything else that James Harden has

721
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Speaker 5: done since coming to Brooklyn really has turned. He's rehabbed

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Speaker 5: his image around already, I think because he's playing the

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Speaker 5: right way, being a real team player, hitting big shots still,

724
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Speaker 5: and the team is now winning and looking much better.

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Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving also came back last night. He wasn't there

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Speaker 5: for their loss to the Mavericks on the weekend, and

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Speaker 5: obviously when they have those two guys out there, they're incredible.

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Speaker 5: So it's pretty still when you look at that Eastern Conference,

729
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Speaker 5: the way the Bucks are playing better right now. I

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Speaker 5: still think with the Nets at full strength, when they

731
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Speaker 5: play the right way like this, can't see anyone beating

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Speaker 5: them four times, especially as I say, if Kevin Duran

733
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Speaker 5: is backing that lineup, I just think they're too good.

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Speaker 5: They've got too many weapons. You saw Bruce Brown last

735
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Speaker 5: night playing really well. They're getting contributions from everybody, so yeah,

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Speaker 5: really really good win. I guess in the end for

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Speaker 5: the Nets, I think maybe was going to be a

738
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Speaker 5: little more comfortable than it was in the end.

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Speaker 3: Terry Butler tweet this morning talking about Harden and his

740
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Speaker 3: MVP case. If you compare what he's doing this season

741
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Speaker 3: hardened to what he did in his MVP year in Houston,

742
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Speaker 3: he's actually playing much better. Has a higher field goal percentage,

743
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Speaker 3: three point percentage, true shooting percentage, assist percentage, offensive efficiency.

744
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Speaker 3: He has more rebounds and assists, has a lower usage

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Speaker 3: rate and fewer shots per game and turnovers. The numbers

746
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Speaker 3: are incredible. I actually because I was curious because we

747
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Speaker 3: keep talking about yeah, like yeah, which Brooklyn Net is

748
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Speaker 3: at the MVP table? Are any of them? Are all

749
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Speaker 3: of them? Here's the breakdown. Duran played nineteen games Lee

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Speaker 3: and you're right, he was incredible when he was playing

751
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Speaker 3: twenty nine points per game, which felt like the easiest

752
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Speaker 3: twenty nine you've ever seen. It didn't even feel like

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Speaker 3: he was scoring that seven boards, five assists on shooting

754
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Speaker 3: splits that were fifty two from the floor forty three

755
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Speaker 3: from three to eighty seven at the line. Okay, those

756
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Speaker 3: are amazing, But then listen to these two guys, Harden,

757
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Speaker 3: let's go to him twenty two games with Brooklyn, just Brooklyn,

758
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Speaker 3: twenty five points per game, nearly nine rebounds, over eleven assists,

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Speaker 3: and his shooting splits are forty nine forty two and eight,

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Speaker 3: so very very similar to Katie. But then Kyrie, I

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Speaker 3: think is arguably almost underrated in all this conversation. In

762
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Speaker 3: his twenty five games, twenty seven and a half points

763
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Speaker 3: per game, five boards, six assists, fifty one from the floor,

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Speaker 3: forty one from three to eighty nine at the line.

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Speaker 3: That is insane, Trey, I mean, that is very I

766
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Speaker 3: don't know how you cannot look at that and go,

767
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Speaker 3: that's pretty Warriors like, right, like when the Warriors were

768
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Speaker 3: doing some iconic things with Katie in the mixer with

769
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Speaker 3: Stephan and obviously Clay and maybe it's even the next level.

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Speaker 3: And that's no knock on on what Clay gives you

771
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Speaker 3: defensively and all that, but just pure offensive numbers that

772
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Speaker 3: is mind boggling.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is the best collection of offensive talent in

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Speaker 4: NBA history. And I don't think there's really a question

775
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Speaker 4: here because, like you're saying, it's exactly like the Warriors.

776
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Speaker 4: If Klay Thompson had Kyrie Irvings handles and finishing ability

777
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Speaker 4: at the rim, because Kyrie's still shooting the three like

778
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Speaker 4: Clay Thompson does, They're gonna be impossible to stop, especially

779
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Speaker 4: if DeAndre Jordan is playing as well as he has.

780
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Speaker 4: I think he stepped this game up thirteen boards last night.

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Speaker 4: That's basically what they need from DeAndre Jordan. Catch them

782
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Speaker 4: and grab as many rebounds as you possibly can. And then,

783
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Speaker 4: like you're saying, Lee Bruce Brown has been quite the

784
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Speaker 4: player for the Nets here this month twenty three. Last night,

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Speaker 4: he looks like the latest in a long line of

786
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Speaker 4: guys who have found success just playing in a Mike

787
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Speaker 4: D'Antoni slash Steve Nash kind of system. Like it's not

788
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Speaker 4: dissimilar to me to if you were to combine Earl

789
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Speaker 4: Clark and PJ Tucker. There's a couple of random dan

790
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: Toni successes from back in the day, but a smaller

791
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Speaker 4: guy who's going to defend his ass off, which Bruce

792
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Speaker 4: Brown has been doing. But he's also getting buckets in

793
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Speaker 4: the lane shooting close to He was what seventy percent

794
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Speaker 4: last night. I don't know what he's up to at

795
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Speaker 4: this point. He's almost at sixty percent for the season.

796
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Speaker 4: But he looks like a guy that they said, here's

797
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: a perfect role for you. All you have to do

798
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Speaker 4: is roll to the hoop, finish, play defense, maybe make

799
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Speaker 4: a three if you're in the corner. He has bought

800
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Speaker 4: into that role and it's working out for the Nets

801
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 4: because if he's a player, if he's a guy they

802
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 4: can rely on come playoff time. They just got a

803
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: little bit deep. I don't think that death has been

804
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: a problem for the Nets this far, and that's with

805
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: missing Kevin Durant. Incredible stuff. They keep winning on the road.

806
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Speaker 4: The defense is looking okay, and yeah they dominated that

807
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Speaker 4: overtime period. They should have won it on that layup

808
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Speaker 4: by Kyrie Irving. Cannot believe that didn't drop a lot

809
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: of move on perdle I think he's still looking for

810
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Speaker 4: Kyrie this morning, but he just missed it, like you

811
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Speaker 4: just missed it. And then we had the craziest play

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Speaker 4: of all time. I can't believe that Jontay Murray got

813
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Speaker 4: that up in time. Also, I love Pardin's defense. Guy

814
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: just stood sideways facing the sideline and somehow almost got

815
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Speaker 4: a steal out of them. Yeah, don't know how it

816
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: was happening, but impressive win by the Nets to respond

817
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: in overtime. Because you blow a chance like that, you

818
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: give up a weird buzzer beater. It's easy to give

819
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Speaker 4: it up in the next five minutes, but not so

820
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Speaker 4: much last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if Murray is like one step back, they win

822
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Speaker 3: that game. Probably hit the buzzer right because it's a

823
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Speaker 3: three because it was a long too, that one right,

824
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Speaker 3: that weird shot to tie it after the whole fumbling

825
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: and bumbling and him getting up but he was just

826
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Speaker 3: inside the three point line. But yeah, good bounce back

827
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Speaker 3: for the Nets there in overtime. Next game, Yo Kich

828
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Speaker 3: dominates with thirty nine points. The Nuggets beat Trey Kurby's

829
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Speaker 3: Bulls one eighteen one twelve. Man do we call this

830
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Speaker 3: line we were talking about last night's pick them. God,

831
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Speaker 3: we knocked that one out of the park. I was

832
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Speaker 3: literally saying, that's the exact line. You were trying to

833
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Speaker 3: buy a point exactly. I said, just give me one

834
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Speaker 3: more point, and sure enough they were right. Vegas was right.

835
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Speaker 3: I guess in the end, Bulls, excuse me, Nuggets get

836
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Speaker 3: the six point victory. We'll get to the pick him later.

837
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Speaker 3: But Trey big takeaway from this one is it the

838
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: big guy in Yo kitchen? Just yes, dominant down the stretch. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean the balls are back, but they are not big,

840
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: and that was a problem against Jokic. You know, Wendell

841
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: Carter Junior looks to be like a solid defender, probably

842
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: has a future as a very good defender in the league.

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Speaker 4: According to the listings, he gives up fifteen pounds in

844
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Speaker 4: Nkoli Jokich. I think it's more like fifty. There is

845
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Speaker 4: no way that Wendell could handle Jokic down low or

846
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 4: you know, anytime he would drive the ball. They tried

847
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: Luke Cornett on Jokich. Nope, bab Young tried. He was

848
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Speaker 4: the best, No doubt about it. He gives up fifty

849
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: pounds by the listings, for sure, and four inches for sure.

850
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 4: At one point, Stacy King called Nikola Jokic Gulliver's travels

851
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 4: in the land Liliputians, and that's exactly what it was.

852
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: Anytime the Nuggets needed a bucket, they were just able

853
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 4: to get the ball into Jokic or he was able

854
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Speaker 4: to bring the ball up the court work his way

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Speaker 4: to a place where he's able to make a play.

856
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: He ended up with what seventeen points in the fourth quarter,

857
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: and it was just a case of this is the biggest,

858
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 4: baddest dude out there. There's nothing the Bulls could do

859
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: to stop him. He had a clutch dunk with two

860
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: minutes left. Put the nut. Put the Nuggets into the

861
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: leady I just did a minute later with the jumper.

862
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: This was an MVP performance from Yokic, the way he

863
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: was playing offensively, and he was really good defensively as well,

864
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: literally just being big, just using his the length of

865
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: his arms, his height, and his know how to really

866
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: affect things in the lane for the Bulls. The Nuggets

867
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: dominated in the paint and it's caused of Jokic impressive

868
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 4: impressive stuff.

869
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: I also love Jamal Murray. I think the Nuggets were

870
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: up one Denver fast break. Murray has a leg ridiculous

871
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: and he's like, no, I'm gonna pull up like I've

872
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: been just watching Love and Basketball and take the three

873
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: point shot on the fast break and splash it. I

874
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: had some confidence in that one ley that was obviously

875
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: huge for the victory, but wow, he misses that, You're

876
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: you're you're scratching your head.

877
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: But he's exactly if he misses that and they go

878
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: down and score and the Bulls they go on to win,

879
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: that is exactly the shot at that point of the

880
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: game that Mike Malone could say that's a bad shot,

881
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 5: because honestly, in that fourth quarter, they didn't really have

882
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 5: anything else going the Nuggets other than just like go

883
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 5: to joke kitch and it's like miss one, and then

884
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: he does miss one, and it's like, you can't know,

885
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: we can get the rebound. He just has that little

886
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: tip in that putback, and it was incredible performance by

887
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: him because no matter who they throw, and I think

888
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: they should have stuck that he's young on him a

889
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 5: lot more because physically he can just at least body

890
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 5: him a little better than Wendell Carter. Wendel Carter has

891
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 5: got the length but that he has a young and

892
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: then on the offensive end that he's sung. Actually he

893
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 5: was doing quite well for the Bulls as well, keeping

894
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: them scoring. But yeah, yo, kitch, this was a performance

895
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 5: of Micha Alone talked about after the game, saying, you know,

896
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: he's never talked about a guy you want to build

897
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: around or start your franchise around.

898
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting. I think he's not wrong either. Yeah,

899
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: his name is not thrown out there a lot when

900
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: we have those fun conversations because Luca, it's Yannis, it's

901
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: you know, maybe even Zion is getting in there and

902
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I mean, Lebron is obviously up to

903
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: down age, but you'd still want him on your team

904
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: if you're building the franchise to win a title l

905
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: like this year. But Jo Kich's name is not thrown

906
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: around all that often in that conversation despite being only

907
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: twenty six.

908
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I also think the way that he did

909
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: play in that fourth quarter is not his ideal or

910
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: preferred way. He doesn't want to be the scorer on

911
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: every possession. He likes it when other guys get involved,

912
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 5: but no one else really had to go. Michael Porter

913
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: started off well and Will Barton had some shots going,

914
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 5: but Jamal Murray again wasn't you know, super prior to

915
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 5: that hitting that big three. He hit two threes late

916
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: there and then the free throws. But to me, it's

917
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 5: almost like if you're the Bulls, you're like, Okay, if

918
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 5: it's only Joki scoring, we can maybe ride that out.

919
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 5: But he just didn't miss. He just didn't stop scoring,

920
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 5: and that was the problem.

921
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: Well, they talk about it on the broadcast. I know

922
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: Stacy King brought it up too, because I was watching

923
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: that tray and it was like, you just can't speed

924
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: him up, you can't get them uncomfortable. And it's like

925
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: the most true, Like it's such a true statement, like

926
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: it's like impossible to like make him really feel all

927
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 3: that uncomfortable, no matter because of his passing abilities, because

928
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: it obviously is his size. I like to moving off

929
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: the ball a couple times. A couple of those dunks

930
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: happened because of that, like you know, coming off of

931
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: like a pick and yok, it's like a freight train

932
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: coming down and getting it there on the fly. And

933
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: he's just like so coordinated despite looking like he'd be

934
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: the opposite of that. Yeah, I don't know, what you

935
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: do with them? That guys, what do you do with them?

936
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 5: Honestly, Like the scouting report for me would be like,

937
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 5: be careful when he goes to those little like dinkers

938
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: and dumpers because if he misses, he's always there. So

939
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 5: box out, keep him low, keep your body there. But

940
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 5: his arms, his arms just seemed to sort of poke

941
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 5: through and just tip it up before the other guys

942
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 5: even a chance to sort of get their hands off

943
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 5: a ball. It must be frustrating as hell sometimes playing

944
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: against him like that, because yeah, he sometimes spins in

945
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 5: the line. You know, sometimes he just stands there and

946
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 5: like nothing's movie, so I'm just gonna shoot it then,

947
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 5: like you just don't know what he's gonna do for

948
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: one play to the next. But he was incredible. That

949
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 5: was a real I'm the best player. I'm dragging my

950
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 5: team to a victory game last night.

951
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: Yep, I like that they do. I know Murray didn't

952
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: have a great game, but when it gets into clutch time,

953
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: it's like you can run a great two man game

954
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: with those two guys, right, I Mean they just aret

955
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: so in sync and just his a pastors and they're

956
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: both they are great passers to be honest, like Jamal

957
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: Murray is not on Yokich's level, but he's not bad.

958
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 3: He'll find you at the bounce pass if your cutting

959
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: in the lane and there's a small hole. Ah yeah,

960
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: they can just go to that and it's like, man,

961
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: good luck trying to figure them out. Great game from Yokich.

962
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: Bulls put up a fight. That was a great one.

963
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: I also love Stacey King on the golf so much.

964
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah. I think maybe because the team is, like,

965
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: it's much more fun to watch that he can, yeah,

966
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: drop the zingers and the lines a little bit more frequently.

967
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: Oun't know. Maybe I wasn't also watching a ton of

968
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: Bowls games with Stacy King on the call when they

969
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: weren't winning a bunch last year. I'm sure you were

970
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: watching a lot more. But I love that broadcast. So

971
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: that's one of my top five new.

972
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: Play by play guy as well. Adam oh right, I

973
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 4: rank is a huge part of because Neil Funk was

974
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 4: the guy there, yeah for quite some time, and there's

975
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 4: you know, an age difference between Neil Funk and Stacy King,

976
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: but not so much with Adam and mean when Stacey King,

977
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: these guys are having a great time. I think they're

978
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 4: even better on road games where there you know, just

979
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: broadcasting from their home because Stacey, Stacey can go a

980
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: little wild when he's broadcasting from home. I love it.

981
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, he's always good for a maketion

982
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 4: what is Yes, he's got a.

983
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: Funny voice too.

984
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: I like that. It was great all right.

985
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: Next game here, Zion Wimson pushes the Pelicans past the

986
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 3: NBA leading Jazz one nine one four. Yeah, Pelicans putting

987
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: up one twenty nine on the Jazz. First things first

988
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: with this game, we got ourselves another wedgie. You can

989
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: go ahead and roll that JD. It's brandon Ingram from

990
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: the side stick.

991
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, very.

992
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: Nice Weggy wedgie number twenty seven. And this was late

993
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: in that game. So uh, great work Ingram in the

994
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 3: victory too. Oh love it nice, so beautiful Weggie. Tracker

995
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: dot com says we are on pace for an incredible

996
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: sixty two. We are. We are back up over sixty

997
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: our pace and now at sixty two, I don't know

998
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: what the highest it's been, but I bet we're flirting

999
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: with it right there. Twenty seven. We haven't even hit

1000
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 3: the All Star break man. I would Ooh, how many

1001
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: you want to get, Greedy Lee? How many more we

1002
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: want before the All Star break?

1003
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 4: One?

1004
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: Just one?

1005
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 8: I guess.

1006
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just won. Okay, we got we had a

1007
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 5: lot of games, so yeah, we should squeeze one in.

1008
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: Okay, But we want a good call.

1009
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 5: We want a good call. That's what we want.

1010
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: We want to Yeah, they at least on the Pelicans broadcast,

1011
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: they dropped Weggie. They said, Weggie, you know that was it.

1012
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: But that's fine, that's it's at least we're looking for.

1013
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: Just note it and uh and then move on, especially

1014
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: late in the game. Uh, this one for the m

1015
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: game itself, the Jazz took forty three threes to the

1016
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: Pelicans eleven. Just incredible. The Pelicans won this game. Now,

1017
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 3: Pelicans hit I think seven of eleven, Jazz maybe something

1018
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: like seventeen for forty three. So better percentage there for

1019
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: the Pelicans, but wild disparity there. Zion though pretty special there,

1020
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: especially in the third quarter. He had twenty six, ten

1021
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: and five. You know, I thought some of his assists

1022
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 3: in this one were awesome. He had that beauty assist

1023
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: where he was like falling as he drove baseline and

1024
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: then he sort of like there's a bunch of bodies there,

1025
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 3: and as he's falling, he like zipped or like sort

1026
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: of swung around like a left handed pass to Reddick

1027
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: in the corner who knocked it down. And then he

1028
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: had a really nice bounce pass I think it was

1029
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: to Willy Hernan Gomez, you know, where he's barreling through

1030
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: the lane, defense sort of comes at him and he

1031
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: just like a little bounce pass right there in the

1032
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 3: dunker spot to Willy. So nice stuff from him. Treya,

1033
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: we had it sort of going back and forth on

1034
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: Twitter last night. I had been thinking about what you'd

1035
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: been saying, like this whole idea of like when will

1036
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: Zion or will Zion ever leave lead the league in scoring?

1037
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: And I think it's a fun like thought process, like

1038
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: just is it just a matter of time? I mean,

1039
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 3: the guy's only played, you know, not even full season worth,

1040
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: and he's putting up what what's he at now? Twenty five,

1041
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: twenty six? He's gonna be something right there. But then

1042
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 3: I'm like just thinking about it's like, can you lead

1043
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: the league in scoring lely if you don't have like

1044
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: sort of any three point shot? And that's not to

1045
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: say like Trey said, like, well, hold on, he's can

1046
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: out a three point shot. We know he can hit

1047
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: threes totally fair enough, but will one be able to

1048
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: do it just in today's game? You have all these

1049
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: guards just shoot so many threes. It's like very very difficult.

1050
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: You know, Giannis has not led the league in scoring

1051
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: and beat has not done it, but they've been close,

1052
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: so it's not like you know, he couldn't. I don't know.

1053
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting, like can you do it in

1054
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: today's game. Let's say if Zion only it gets up

1055
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: to hitting one per game, is that still possible? I

1056
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: don't know.

1057
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

1058
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I think obviously it's the free throws. If

1059
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: he can pat it out there the throw line big

1060
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 5: ten a game, then I think so, because there's no

1061
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 5: doubt that he'll be able to get the UH you know,

1062
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 5: the inside in the lane and score and get the

1063
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: high percentage. Looks just looking through NBA history, like Shack

1064
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 5: is the UH is the only big man I can

1065
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 5: see if you had a recent history that didn't have

1066
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 5: a three point show though Russell Westbrook I can't.

1067
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: Remember, but I mean I guess he was.

1068
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 5: I mean, Alan Iverson, I wouldn't say it was a

1069
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: three point shooter. I mean, he led the league in

1070
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 5: scoring at least three times there even Dwayne Wade didn't

1071
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 5: really have a three point shot. So again, this is

1072
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 5: still ten, fifteen, twenty years ago when the game was

1073
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 5: different the way it is now. Yeah, but yeah, I

1074
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: think I think if Zion can get up to thirty

1075
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 5: two points thirty three a game, I think he can

1076
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: lead the league in scoring for that. And again I

1077
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: think if you if you make you know, eight to

1078
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 5: nine field goals a game and then ten free throws,

1079
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 5: you're sort of you're close at that point. So if

1080
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: he can get that three point shot going, and we

1081
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 5: can see he shoots it, okay, he shoots it okay.

1082
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 5: Surprising when he hit that game in his first game

1083
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 5: when he hit four and.

1084
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 4: It's like like, what what happened?

1085
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 5: Then you know he was four for four at one stage.

1086
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: But I like the fact that he's, you know, playing

1087
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 5: to his strengths right now. And you saw it last night.

1088
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 5: There was a big highlight against Rudy Gobert where he

1089
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 5: just went in and.

1090
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 3: Just barreled him. Man, Rudy way flying.

1091
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Rudy was like his elbow and he was like,

1092
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 5: he's not, but he's just like he sort of just

1093
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 5: takes off and just jumps forward and it's like whatever's

1094
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 5: in his way is in his way, but it's not

1095
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: going to stop him. It's incredible. I mean, at some point,

1096
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: you know, it's risky of sort of when he's clattering

1097
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 5: into bodies like that that you hope he doesn't get injured.

1098
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 5: But he seems to be just like, because he's got

1099
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 5: good handles too, you can put that ball on the floor,

1100
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 5: which I like he does that and then he goes

1101
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 5: up and it's like, ah, he's yeah, this is good.

1102
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 5: He doesn't need to be you know, he doesn't need

1103
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: to have this sort of floaty game or a long

1104
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 5: jump shot yet because he can score so convincingly inside.

1105
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Ball had a nice game too. I

1106
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: think that's always big for the Pelicans, you know, Ingram

1107
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: and Zion fairly consistent with getting theirs, but that backcourt,

1108
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: it's like if they're on that night, especially Lonzo Ball,

1109
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: then I really like Pelicans chances to win the game.

1110
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: He had twenty three lines or did he assists, seven boards,

1111
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: two blocks, So that was good. The Jazz got back

1112
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: in this one, Trey, I don't know if you cut

1113
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: it down the stretch. I mean, they had a crazy

1114
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: chance to tie. It was like thirty seconds to go.

1115
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: But the final play, I mean it went nowhere well

1116
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: defended by the Pelicans, like really, just take away the three,

1117
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: take away the three, and then it ended with like

1118
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 3: Conley forcing like a really gross like leaning like double

1119
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 3: clutch three just had nothing. He wasn't open at all

1120
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: and it missed badly, and the Pelicans held on. This

1121
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: is a good victory for them.

1122
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, a great win for the Pelicans. Definitely tough to

1123
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 4: beat a team when they make ten more threes than

1124
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: you do. That's right, very hard to do, especially a

1125
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 4: good team like the Jazz. I mean, maybe it could

1126
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 4: happen against you know, some terrible team who just happens

1127
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: to get hot, but the Jenones are the one of

1128
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: the best three point shooting teams in the league, one

1129
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 4: of the best teams in the league with one of

1130
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: the best defenses. So yeah, the really really great win

1131
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: for the Pelicans. And yeah, I mean, I'm I'm super

1132
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: bowlish on Zion Man. I think this guy's gonna be incredible.

1133
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 4: He hasn't had a regular offseason. Yet he was injured

1134
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: coming into his rookie season. Obviously, we know what happened

1135
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: last year, a short offseason. It was delay blah blah

1136
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, this kind of stuff. Just give him

1137
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 4: a chance to actually work on a three point shot,

1138
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 4: work on his handles. Like you're saying, Lee, his handles

1139
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 4: are fine. I don't think they're that tight yet. I mean, like,

1140
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: think about how much better he's gonna get. He's dominating

1141
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: Rudy Gober in the paint right like, he's got the

1142
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: softest touch, he's got the quickest first jump in the league.

1143
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 4: He's got incredible hands, and he's able to just bulk

1144
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: the best rimed protector in the league out of the

1145
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: way like he's not even there. That's incredible stuff. He's

1146
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: like Shaq in Barkley's body. We'll see how that progresses

1147
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 4: as he goes on. You're right, maybe he never gets

1148
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: the three pointer that would hurt a scoring chance, but

1149
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 4: I don't know. I almost feel like he can get

1150
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 4: twenty field goals a game in the lane at this point.

1151
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I was gonna say, like we got we

1152
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: had our fun SGA. Will he ever be an all

1153
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: star bet over multiple years, like where would you say it?

1154
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: Will Zion lead the league in scoring, like in the

1155
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: next three seasons, two seasons. I think it's'd be a

1156
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 3: fun bet too.

1157
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 4: Lebron led the league in scoring at what twenty three?

1158
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: I think, I think that's right.

1159
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 5: Durant was only twenty one.

1160
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 3: I think was okay.

1161
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: I think, boy, yeah, that would be a tough one.

1162
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: I don't know about next year.

1163
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, not next year. I think in the next three year,

1164
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: maybe you could talk me into that. Yeah, twenty one

1165
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: depens a little bit to me on adding three point try.

1166
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying, like, like Giannis hits what won

1167
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: a game one to one and a half a game,

1168
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: same with Embiid and these guys still aren't even leading

1169
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 3: league in scoring. That's what I guess My point was there.

1170
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: But I'm I don't doubt that he could add it

1171
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 3: and hit won a game at least, And maybe you're right,

1172
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't even need to, which is how talent

1173
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: he is that getting inside and finishing inside and he

1174
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: gets to the line and knocks him down. Yeah all right, well,

1175
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: well let's think on that one. I could have a no,

1176
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 3: little second.

1177
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 5: Kevin Ken was twenty one on one hundred and ninety

1178
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 5: seven days lead scoring.

1179
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: He's pretty good, man. Yeah, he's under Kevin Durant is

1180
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: underrated at this point.

1181
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: Probably true.

1182
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 5: I did he averaged thirty a game that season two.

1183
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 5: I think, let me see if I can deep that

1184
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: one out.

1185
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 3: All right, while you're doing that other games from last night,

1186
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: just quickly, Luca, there's a young talent in this league.

1187
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: He scores thirty three to lead the Mavericks past the

1188
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: Magic one thirty one twenty four freakin' shake coming off

1189
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 3: the bench sparked the Sixers to a big win over

1190
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: the Pacers. Calves got the one o one ninety win

1191
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: over Houston. That's the rock. It's twelfth straight loss. Christian

1192
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 3: Wood for MVP. You heard it air first and Carmelo

1193
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: wins the Battle of the Mellos. Test talked about it

1194
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: on What You Need to Know This Morning Blazer down

1195
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: the Hornets one twenty three, one eleven. Good game from Carmelo,

1196
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: and then after the game he said it was okay

1197
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 3: for LaMelo to be sort of referred to as mellow

1198
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: and also really to do the you know, the three

1199
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 3: to the head, three to the dome. So Trey anything

1200
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: there from any of those games you want to touch on.

1201
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: I love it. I love Mellow versus Mellow. That was

1202
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 4: a lot of fun. It was. It was a hard choice, man.

1203
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 4: You turn on the broadcast, It's like, do I want

1204
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: to hear Eric Collins yelling about the Hornets or no,

1205
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: I want to hear my guy Lamar Hurd talk.

1206
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 3: Jeez.

1207
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 4: So I was switching between every play, you know, and

1208
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 4: the Hornets would have the ball. I'm watching their broad

1209
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: JK JK. Nonetheless, Mellow versus Mellow, they both got house

1210
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 4: of highlight clips. That's huge yep. Thirty points, six rebounds,

1211
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: eight assists and four steals for Lamello. Twenty nine points

1212
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: three rebounds, two assists and five steals for Carmelo. Anthony,

1213
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 4: excuse me, five steals, mister downward swiper. I'll love it.

1214
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 4: Huge fourth though for the car Man, seventeen points, and

1215
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: he really gave the Blazers the lead the boost. I

1216
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: like seeing Carmelo and LaMelo. They tapped up pregame afterwards,

1217
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: they traded jerseys like you're saying, skeets like task that

1218
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 4: on what you need to know. Carmelo blessed Lamello with

1219
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: the three point celebration, a real passing of the mellow torch.

1220
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: They're just both mellow. Now, we just got to deal

1221
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 4: with it.

1222
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're giggling like a little schoolgirl. You're loving this. Yeah.

1223
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 5: The photo of them holding jerseys, Camelli didn't you know,

1224
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: maybe it's just a photo itself, and he just kind

1225
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 5: of was like, yeah, I kind of have to do this,

1226
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 5: you know, I have to play the good guy. But ah, yeah,

1227
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 5: it's great.

1228
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 4: It's great.

1229
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: It's great just to pass on these things through throughout

1230
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 5: the leak. But I mean, even if Kamelo said, you know,

1231
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 5: what's you going to say? I don't want you to

1232
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 5: do that. You're not allowed to call yourself mellow. It's like, sorry,

1233
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 5: you can do whatever you want.

1234
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: You are a grown man exactly. Yeah your maid. Yeah,

1235
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 3: it's great, it was great. I did like the photo.

1236
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: I'm glad they did that. I don't care. I mean

1237
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 3: a task also pointing out, you know Melo has done

1238
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: this before, the original Mellow holding it a little higher,

1239
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: Lamela's going a little too low. You gotta get that

1240
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: jersey up there. But it looks good. Those are also

1241
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: two great jerseys in my opinion too. The Hornets and

1242
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: the Blazers there also. I said this last night. I

1243
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: tweeted it, this one the Blazers at home wearing white. Okay, man,

1244
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: So many of these road teams are wearing white on

1245
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: the road, and it's like always confuses me. I don't know,

1246
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: I'm an idiot, but it just like takes me like

1247
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: a couple seconds, couple possessions to always be like, oh, yeah,

1248
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: hold on, who is that. Oh that wasn't the Bulls,

1249
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: that was the Nuggets wearing white on the road. I

1250
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: mean there was like four games last night where the

1251
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: road team was wearing white. Am I I'm just an

1252
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: old man yelling at clouds here with this. I just

1253
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: don't I don't care. I get it, it's fine. They

1254
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: want these teams to wear like they're colorful jerseys and

1255
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: they're new jerseys at home in front of their fans.

1256
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: I get it, but it I don't know, the traditionalists

1257
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: in me, like my vsps yes pologists. Yeah, yeah, it

1258
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: just it just gets me every time. It takes me

1259
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: too long to figure out, oh yeah, they're not the

1260
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: home team even though they're wearing white, which is what

1261
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: the home team supposed to do.

1262
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 4: It's like what year four of this?

1263
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: I know, it just gets me.

1264
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm just wearing white at home. Teams wear white at

1265
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: home in the NFL as well. I do think it's

1266
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 4: confusing when you see. For me, the only time I

1267
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 4: actually agreed with you on this was seeing the tweets

1268
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: about the Nets winning in San Antonio for the first

1269
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 4: time in nearly twenty years, because the Nets jerseys are

1270
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 4: very similar to what the Spurs used to wear home

1271
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: in early two thousands, So that was weird seeing the

1272
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: pictures next to each other. But in general, you know,

1273
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm pretty good at keeping the teams separate. You know,

1274
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm pretty familiar with the players and their looks out

1275
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: there on the court, so I can I can usually

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Speaker 4: keep track.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's it's not helped because when the

1278
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: one team is wearing white, the broadcast doesn't know what

1279
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: to do with the ticker, like the score bug, you

1280
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean, in terms of colors, true, so

1281
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: you just then get a lot of like sometimes it'll

1282
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 3: just be blue and blue for both teams, like Okay.

1283
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: The Mavericks Magic Game was a perfect example of that.

1284
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 3: The Mavericks were wearing white even though it's in Orlando,

1285
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: and the ticker was showing both blue basically the same blue,

1286
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's not helping anything here.

1287
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: All right.

1288
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: Again, I'm an old man. I just can't keep tracking

1289
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 3: the colors here. White. It's not even a color, is it?

1290
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 5: No?

1291
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: I guess not all right, anything Lee, any of those

1292
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: games you wanted to add, or just a.

1293
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 5: Really I mean, Luca was Luca was gorgeous last night

1294
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 5: and had a couple of really sexy highlights.

1295
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: So are you not going to have those in the

1296
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: very solid play? I hope she is.

1297
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: It's a very solid plays of the week, not the

1298
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 5: very sexy plays of the week, is it.

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: Well, look at you tell yourself that to the mirror man,

1300
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: not me. You're all rattled up today. Man, you're the

1301
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: old man. I'm not jumper boy at all.

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: Today.

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00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: I'm been a great man. All right. Let's get to

1304
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: Tweet of.

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 8: The night, Tweed of the night. Wow, honors, Yes, I

1306
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 8: have Twiteter the night and Twitter the night as Actually

1307
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 8: it's it's an ad.

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: That popped up on my feed early this morning and

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: it's from our friends, my friend at Oreo the Cookie Company. Okay, so,

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: and it reminded me of made me think of this

1311
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: show in a couple of ways. First, it was it

1312
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: was announcing the the drop, the latest drop of Lady

1313
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: Gaga oreos. I guess these are a ridiculous, ridiculously popular

1314
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: cookie that they've ran out of. People were trying to

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: find them, and then they just dropped them right. Secondly,

1316
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: and it made me think of us, because Lee is

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: the biggest Lady Gaga fan I know, so congratosations to you. Secondly,

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00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: I thought of I thought of the my Top Shot

1319
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: Hot Boys right away when I saw it pop up,

1320
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: because look at this.

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: Wow, what.

1322
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 5: A wow?

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00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty close, right, It's not just me.

1324
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: God, it's very similar.

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00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I love to pull a disco stick out

1326
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 4: of there.

1327
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: Right, I thought, whoa Lady Gaga is getting into the

1328
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: top shot game? And then anyways, and then thirdly, lastly,

1329
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: I realized this is kind of a bummer, But I

1330
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: realized that No Dunks would probably never have a signature

1331
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 2: oreo simply because we're called No Dunks, right ouch, Which

1332
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: brings me to the question, what would our signature cookie

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00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: be if not oreo?

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00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh you know, you know.

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01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna say, what flavor of Oreo would

1337
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: be like uncooked carrots, beans or something like that.

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: I think you got into Oreo right away, because I

1339
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: mean I don't dunk my Oreos at all, but I

1340
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: don't even pull them apart. I just eat them like

1341
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: an animal.

1342
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: Like yeah, same here, like yeah, like normal.

1343
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. You let the wafer and the cream work

1344
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: together as as intended.

1345
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1346
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: So anyway, for me, we have a sort of a

1347
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: we have the best basketball podcast, right, and we have

1348
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: a weird, weird name for that, which is no dunks.

1349
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 8: Right.

1350
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: So our signature cookie, in my mind, should be a

1351
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: weird name chocolate digestive. But it's by far the best

1352
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: cookie wow ever invented.

1353
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 3: That's ours? Is it?

1354
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: For me? I don't know what do you guys think?

1355
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, what's the classic auzie there?

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01:00:53,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 5: Lee? Yeah, that's a delicious oh yeah yeah but yeah, okay,

1357
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 5: I don't know you got a cookie in mind there, TK.

1358
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I am a I'm an Oreo fan. I

1359
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 4: love them, but I do dunk them. I mean, it

1360
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: sounded like maybe there could be a whole nother campaign

1361
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 4: that we're part of, because in general, Oreos is telling

1362
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 4: you to dunk. Maybe we are the people who say, look,

1363
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: even if you don't like dunking an oreo, you can

1364
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 4: still enjoy it. Let the wafer in the cream work together.

1365
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: It's that simple, the one two punch.

1366
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, hit us up, Let us up. Also, it's

1367
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: a it's it's a seeing that Lady Gaga and thinking

1368
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: it was a top shot. I was like, wow, that's

1369
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: like that's next, right.

1370
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 3: Like yeah, oh on percent, like oh yeah yeah.

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: Like concert moments, you know, Eddie Vedder climbing the scaffolding

1372
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: or whatever, that kind of thing. Elton John on his

1373
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: fourth farewell tour, playing in Atlanta Series four.

1374
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think so, I think uh, I think

1375
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: Doctor seuss Is obviously is obviously is in the mix too.

1376
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: Really what yeah, have you heard that trays that.

1377
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 4: The Street Fighter collectibles? I know Sean Mendes has a

1378
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 4: collectible that's out. He's a musician. So you're totally right,

1379
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 4: j D. That's what's coming.

1380
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: So if anything's going to get Lee into the NFTs,

1381
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 3: it's going to be Robbie Williams moment. Oh yeah, yeah,

1382
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 3: Well would you like what what Robby Williams moment? Would

1383
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 3: you like?

1384
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 5: Well from Nebworth where he not ass but he's like

1385
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 5: hanging down upside down as he comes onto stage. I

1386
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 5: think that'd be awesome moment. Yeah, arms out like that, like.

1387
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: Just great, Okay, he came down upside down.

1388
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, he came down upside down. And then I guess,

1389
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 5: you know, because I was pretty far back, I'll say

1390
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 5: that from the stage that's like, yeah, no, it was great.

1391
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 5: It was It was one hundred and twenty five thousand people.

1392
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 5: We don't want to be out the front there.

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to get oat yeah away.

1394
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 5: But I guess he just came down and the people

1395
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 5: just came in, you know, chaotic sort of like let's

1396
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 5: get it out. You know.

1397
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. A moment I would

1398
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: like to see if you could go to Lee's single

1399
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: camera j D and maybe Lee you could hit us

1400
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 3: with those pause again. This is.

1401
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 5: I can't remember how she like that, pull us up.

1402
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: There we go. That's the top shot moment I will buy.

1403
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 3: I can pop my bay.

1404
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 5: She doesn't really do that stuff.

1405
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 3: Rotation Okay, good stuff. Fun picked results from last night.

1406
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: We've talked about it there briefly. It was the Nuggets

1407
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 3: Bulls game. Denver was favored by five and a half,

1408
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 3: meaning they had to win by six. And we said

1409
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: when we were picking this game on yesterday's show Man,

1410
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: that's just like gonna be exactly where it lands, like

1411
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna be five, six or seven. I think you

1412
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: can quote me on that. And then Lee was trying

1413
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: to buy a point because he was taking the Bulls. Man,

1414
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: it would have came in handy because the Bulls won

1415
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: by six. Victory for Tass and I to start off

1416
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: our brand new month of March. Trey will be paying

1417
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: off February's pick them, don't you worry? So I want

1418
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 3: to know, Tases want to know, and you guys had

1419
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: the Bulls and you know, came down to free throws. Really,

1420
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: if Jamal miss is one of those free throws.

1421
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 5: You guys said Dozier instead.

1422
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, chances would have been better to get that victory

1423
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: by you guys are zero and one. Tonight's game, Well,

1424
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: let's see if the new head coaching bump is real.

1425
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: Nate McMillan coaching the Hawks CACA in Atlanta, Miami favored

1426
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: by just I say, just three and a half points.

1427
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 3: So let you guys go first. Lee Miami favored by

1428
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 3: three and a half, hosting the Hawks. Who do you like?

1429
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing. We will night McMillan order automatically

1430
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 5: come in and give this team a boost. But he's

1431
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 5: already kind of done it by having a couple of games.

1432
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if Jimmy Butler's playing. I think though

1433
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 5: the Hate can win full points. I'll take Miami.

1434
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Tray, he'd have been playing pretty well, but I

1435
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 4: love a new coach Bump Skeats. Give me the Hawks.

1436
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm gonna go the Heat because they are

1437
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: on the run. I don't like picking against the team

1438
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: that's playing playing really really well, but that and who

1439
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: coach bump it does scare me. I'll go with Lee though,

1440
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 3: Miami to win by four or more. Let's find out

1441
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: who tas has.

1442
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: Give me the Hawks to play with a little bit

1443
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: of pride, especially considering it's the second game of a doubleheader.

1444
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: With the Heat, they've got a fight back.

1445
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: Right, ask a question like that're waiting for the answer. Yeah,

1446
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. So Okay and Trey

1447
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 3: have the Hawks to keep it close enough, and Lee

1448
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 3: and I have Miami to win by four or more.

1449
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 3: Good luck to everybody. That's it for today's show another

1450
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 3: fun one. Thank you so much for joining us live.

1451
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: Shout out to the stream team once again. Email us

1452
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: your questions for tomorrow's Beach step in podcast. Yeah, were

1453
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: hitting the beach tomorrow, so email your questions in No

1454
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: Dunk at the Athletic dot Com. You still got a

1455
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: little bit of time. Please continue to like and comment

1456
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: and subscribe to your No Dunks boys on YouTube, grab

1457
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 3: your No Dunks merch at No dunks dot com, and

1458
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: if you haven't done so already, get yourself an athletic

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Speaker 3: subscription for just three ninety nine a months. Go to

1460
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 3: the Athletic dot com slash No Dunks JD. You didn't

1461
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 3: drop a mellow on us today? Do you don't have

1462
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: it in the hopper?

1463
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. Oh, I don't have it. I

1464
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: was looking for it and then and I was like, eh,

1465
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: who cares?

1466
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 4: Oh right, it's my least favorite drop.

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01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, by fire, my least.

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01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 5: You're so wrong with that one.

1469
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: How about this one, Clipper Bros.

1470
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: I was looking for the mellow.

1471
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: He said, you didn't have it.

1472
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, I was just double checking. I don't have it.

1473
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: I officially don't have Clipper Bros.

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 4: That you heard here first. Have a great time, turn up,

1475
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 4: love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us, and remember

1476
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 4: we've got another twenty years of the Hello drop ahead

1477
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 4: of us.

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01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, Pause up, Lee, Pause up. Race the day people, you.

1479
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: Could say ooo every day, and Dad, you happy every minute.

1480
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: It's been so long that you're the wunna waiting for.

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 8: It's happened already.

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be goody