1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warre. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: Ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird Josha Warren. 11 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 4: I am Joshua WA B. 12 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be bringing 13 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: you brand new mind blowing news exercises and weird. 14 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: Experiments you can do at home, and a lot more 15 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: on this edition of the show. Who was Buster? The Alien? 16 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: And the Strange Story of a Familiar Sauce? How's that 17 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: for a combo? I am quite sure that most of 18 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: you have never heard the story I am about to 19 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: tell you right now. And I say that because, much 20 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: to my surprise, I had not heard of this until 21 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: just recently. I couldn't believe that I had never heard 22 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: about this until just recently, so happy to be sharing 23 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: it with you. I'm going to tell you about a 24 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: UFO crash with aliens that may be just as significant 25 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: as the Roswell crash of nineteen forty seven, except this 26 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: one was so hush hush. 27 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: So obscure. 28 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: It happened several years later, when I guess the military 29 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: really kind of had their protocol down pat that there 30 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: still is a very good chance that some enterprising researchers 31 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: could go look into this and find some stuff. Because 32 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the Roswell incident has been comed over with a fine 33 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: tooth comb so so many times over so many years 34 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: that you know, it's like good luck going to Roswell 35 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: and finding anything new at this point the story I'm 36 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: about to tell you, however, this is good enough to 37 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: like you could go write a book about this, You 38 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: could make a movie about it. There are probably things 39 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: to be discovered here that nobody knows about. Let me 40 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: begin by telling you that I live in Las Vegas, Nevada, 41 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: and about a thirty minute drive slightly southeast of the 42 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: Vegas Strip is the little town of Boulder City, Nevada. 43 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite towns in the entire country. 44 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: Boulder City is so unusual because you had never guessed 45 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: that you were only thirty minutes from Las Vegas. And 46 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: that's because you know, when you're around Las Vegas, I mean, 47 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: you do realize. You know, you're in the desert with 48 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: a lot of flashy lights and tourist attractions and you know. 49 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: But in Boulder City, you're in this quaint, little All 50 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: American town. It's sort of like the kind of place 51 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: where you might film a Hallmark movie. They don't allow 52 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: gambling there, for example. There are tons of antique shops, 53 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: great little cafes and bars and restaurants, and some really 54 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: interesting and odd attractions. Boulder City was built in order 55 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: to house the workers who created the Boulder Dam now 56 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: known as the Hoover Dam, and a lot of the 57 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: people who live there today are actually descendants of those workmen. 58 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: So Boulder City is it's such a charming little place. 59 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: That's why I decided years ago to create the Haunted 60 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: Boulder City Ghost and UFO Tour. It's a walking tour 61 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: that again I wrote it, I created it, I own it, 62 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: I operate it, and people love it. A nice leisurely 63 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: walk around you know, it's an easy walk around the 64 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: town at night. You hear all kinds of amazing stories. 65 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: You could even take a beer with you if you'd 66 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: like walking on the route. And one of the things 67 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: that first attracted me to Boulder City back around probably 68 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen was a pamphlet a rack card that 69 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I saw. I was at kind of a small casino 70 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: and they had the rack with all the tourists stuff, 71 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: and I saw a rat card that said Tom Devlin's 72 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Monster Museum. Well, look, you don't have to say anything 73 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: more than that to get my attention. Monster Museum. And 74 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: it said in Boulder City there is a monster museum. 75 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Well there is a man, and I guess he is 76 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: in his I'd say he's in his forties at this point, 77 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: named Tom Devlin. And Tom Devlin is a very well 78 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: known professional special effects makeup artist who works in all 79 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: He's worked in all kinds of movies. As a matter 80 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: of fact, you may remember a show on the Sci 81 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: Fi Channel called Face Off, and that was a reality 82 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: game show and they would take groups of prosthetic makeup 83 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: artists and they would compete against each other to create 84 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: the kind of prostheses you would find in like science fiction, 85 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: fantasy and horror films, working until you know you got 86 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: like an ultimate winner for the season. Well Tom Devlin 87 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: was one of the winners on that show. But so 88 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: this guy Tom Devlin, he's been working professionally doing this 89 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: since two thousand and one. And he let's see, he's 90 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: I know, he's worked on over one hundred okay, one 91 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty feature films, and he's actually moved on 92 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: to directing as well. So he's a filmmaker and I 93 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: believe his wife is also a filmmaker. And what's so 94 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: great about Tom Devlin is he's a lot like me 95 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: in the sense that he loves the old fashioned, practical 96 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: special effects, the kind of stuff that was so great 97 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: in the eighties movies. You know, this recent CGI stuff, 98 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: I think it ruins a lot of movies. He just 99 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: kind of turns them into a big cartoon. 100 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: You know. 101 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: I love the fact that Yoda was a was basically 102 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: a muppet, you know, that kind of thing I instead 103 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: of some cartoon. So look, he is trying to preserve 104 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: that tradition. He teaches people how to do special effects, 105 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: makeup and all that. So if you go to Boulder city. 106 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 4: Sure enough. 107 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: He has this glorious building and when you walk inside, 108 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: you go through these winding hallways and it's all dark 109 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: and spooky, and you see all of these statues that 110 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: he has created that are that that represent classic movie 111 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: monsters all the way up through modern day monsters. And 112 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: he's got actual screen used props. There are times when 113 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: celebrities go there and do signings. There's a gift shop. 114 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: It's a really really cool place. In fact, just about 115 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: any time someone comes here to visit me in Las 116 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Vegas and I have the time to take them out 117 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: and show them around, I always take them to Tom 118 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Devlin's Monster Museum. And so that gives you an idea 119 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: of how much I like this place, and and I 120 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: love the fact also that you know this is an 121 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: independently owned and you're like Tom Devlin and his team 122 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: they they operate this, and uh, it's it's sort of 123 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: like you know, it's a it's a it's a work 124 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: of love to create this. It's not like some big 125 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: corporate thing. 126 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: You know. 127 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: You can tell he and his team have sat down, 128 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: like taken their time to create each one of these. Well, anyway, 129 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I've been going to Tom Devlin's Monster Museum for years, 130 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: and just recently, I mean months ago, he created a 131 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: whole brand new kind of museum next to his Monster Museum, 132 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: and this one is dedicated exclusively to UFOs and aliens. 133 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: It's called Outpost fifty one Alien Museum, Extra Terrestrial Research 134 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: and Collection Facility of Boulder City, Nevada. And I thought, man, 135 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: this guy thinks exactly like me, Like I would love 136 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: to have done something like that. So back in November 137 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: of t twenty five, my sister and her friends were visiting. 138 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: My sister celebrated her birthday here and we went to 139 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: Boulder City. We went to Outpost fifty one. By the way, 140 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: the Tom Devlin's Monster Museum is Tom Devlin'smonster Museum dot com. 141 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Outpost fifty one is Outpost fifty one Alien Museum dot com. 142 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 4: Easy to find, And as I. 143 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: Was walking around, I was I was surprised because I 144 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: looked over and I saw a display and I'm looking 145 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: at a picture of it right here. It says Kingman 146 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: UFO Crash of nineteen fifty three, and I was like, hmm, 147 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't sound familiar to me because Kingman is not 148 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: far from here. I'm talking about Kingman, Arizona, very small town. 149 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: I've never even been there. It is about an hour 150 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: and forty five minute drive southeast of Vegas. It's consumer 151 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: a cold desert climate. The population is thirty two thousand, 152 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: six hundred and ninety three people. And Kingman, Arizona is 153 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: most famous for being the heart of Route sixty six. 154 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: And to refresh you on what that is. And I 155 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of people listen to the show Around 156 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: the World Route sixty six, it's often called, well, Kingman 157 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: is called the heart of Route sixty six. It was 158 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: established in nineteen twenty six, and this was an iconic 159 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: highway that connected Chicago, Illinois to Santa Monica, California. It 160 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: was twenty four hundred and forty eight miles. I don't 161 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: know how many kilometers that is, but this was a 162 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: major westward migration route during the Dust Bowl and a 163 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: key military supply line of World War Two. They called 164 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: it the Mother Road and it kind of symbolized American 165 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: freedom and spurred the growth of the Southwest. So Kingman 166 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: is known as the heart of Roots sixty six. So 167 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: as you go through there, they're all kinds of old 168 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: diners and antique car displays, and things that are like 169 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: an homage to all the people, you know, the family 170 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: vacations that went through en Route sixty six, through all 171 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: these towns, filled back of the day with all these 172 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: amazing roadside attractions, and you know, you can just imagine. 173 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: So that is like what they are most known for. 174 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: But it turns out, well, there's something else that they 175 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: ought to be known for, and that is a crash. 176 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: When we come back from this break, I'm going to 177 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: do my best to piece together what I found and 178 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: tell you what this happened, what happened there supposedly, But 179 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: then it gets even weirder because we're not just talking 180 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: about a crash. 181 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: We're talking about a crash that leads to a creature 182 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: buster the alien. 183 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you can see why we call this show 184 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Strange Things. 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At Joshuapwarren dot com. 198 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 4: I am Joshua P. 199 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Warren, and you're listening to Strange Things All on the 200 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and 201 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: I will be right back. 202 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Strange Things. 203 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: All the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a m paranormal 204 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, 205 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 206 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 3: Warren. 207 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: Beat me into your worm whole brain from my studio 208 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is 209 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: golden and every night is silver. 210 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: I giato zoom. 211 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: And as I tell you about this U f O 212 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: crash in Kingman, Arizona, mind you it could be U 213 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: f O's crash, because, as you'll hear in a moment, 214 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: there are at least one at least eleven people that 215 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm aware of who claimed that they actually saw the 216 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: crash happened at night in May of nineteen fifty three, 217 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: and that by in some of the papers I found 218 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: that says that, you know, some people saw one, some 219 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: people saw two. But more importantly, when the military went out, 220 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: there are lots of references to them getting. 221 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: Two of these objects. 222 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: So here's okay, the Roswell crash was in nineteen forty seven. 223 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: What I'm about to tell you about happened in May 224 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty three, so six years later, and the 225 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: information is kind of all over the place. It's very sketchy, 226 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: because you know it always is when the government steps 227 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: in and tries to cover things up. So I'm going 228 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: to struggle a bit. I'm going to do my best 229 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: to cobble together what I have been able to find 230 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: to give you what I know, and then also keep 231 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: in mind some of this might be sort of redundant. 232 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: In other words, I might tell you the same thing 233 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: twice from two different sources, just so you can kind 234 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: of see the way it's worded. I mean, bear with me, 235 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: bear with me, Okay. When I started looking into this, 236 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: one of the things I found right off the bat 237 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: that was helpful was a television news segment done by 238 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Channel twelve News in Phoenix, Arizona. They did a whole 239 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: segment about this, and it was done in August of 240 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. A reporter named Chase Golightly went out 241 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: and tackled this and he says in his report news 242 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: dot Com he says, you know, we all know about 243 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: the famous Phoenix lights and other sightings in Arizona, but 244 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: this case is different. 245 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: And that it's uh. 246 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of very specific documentation here, including like 247 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: I say, bodies. In fact, author Preston Dinnett, I don't 248 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: know him, but I know of him. He's a UFO 249 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: expert was interviewed for this segment and he said, this 250 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: is just one of a very small handful of UFO 251 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: crash retrieval reports in the States that have this kind 252 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: of verification. So this reporter he went to the Majave 253 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: Museum of History in Kingman and you see him going 254 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: through all these old newspaper clippings, sketches, and he comes 255 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: across all of these redacted government documents that have been 256 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: collected by UFO researchers and The weirdest one, however, comes 257 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: from a man who originally they signed at affidavit saying 258 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: he was one of the government employees who was sent 259 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: out there to work on this crash retrieval, called Fritz 260 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Warner or Fritz Werner or Fritz Werner, But it turns 261 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: out they later discovered that this guy's real name was 262 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: Arthur Stancel, and he goes on to say that Stancel 263 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: was an Air Force engineer who was brought out there 264 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: to study the impact because he worked already studying impacts 265 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: of nuclear blasts on homes and buildings. He was kind 266 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: of a blast expert. And again, we don't know exactly 267 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: what this looked like when these two objects came down, 268 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: But right after that, Stancel was one of forty people 269 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: transported to the crash scene in a bus with blacked 270 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: out windows so they wouldn't know exactly where they were. 271 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: They were told this was part of a secret project 272 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: when they arrived. One report in the library claims the UFO, 273 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: measuring fourteen feet high and thirty feet in diameter, was 274 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: made out of unfamiliar metal plunged about twenty inches into 275 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: the ground, and it was Stancel's job to basically determine 276 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the speed of the object as it came down. He 277 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: estimated it was about twelve hundred miles per hour. The 278 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: craft was largely undamaged. But next to this UFO was 279 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: the corpse of the so called pilot, a little being 280 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: about four feet tall, wearing a silver metallic suit, surrounded 281 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: by military police. The workers conducted their studies in the 282 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: dead of night, and when they got back on the bus, 283 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: an Air Force colonel made them take an oath of secrecy. 284 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: And so Stancil kept this secret for twenty years and 285 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: then came forward and signed this affidavit. He was actually 286 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: working with the UFO researcher. I'll tell you more about 287 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: in a second. This has become such a credible account. 288 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: Years later, some kind of a secret about this crash 289 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: was released by former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, 290 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: Christopher Mellon. You've seen Christopher Mellon on a lot of 291 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: TV shows. He was corresponding, apparently with some kind of 292 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: a senior US government member whose name was redacted in 293 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: some of these documents, and this government member says that 294 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: the public would be quote slack jawed if word got 295 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: out about what they know writing the US government sees 296 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: the Kingdom and UFO and pieces were taken to various 297 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: Air Force BASS scientific labs and studied intensely. 298 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 4: If you go to. 299 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: Let's see, if you go to explore Kingman dot com. 300 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: This is a site that is owned and operated by 301 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: the Kingman Office of Tourism. It's the official tourism website 302 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: for the city of Kingmen, and so you know, it's 303 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: got stuff about you know, local attractions, historic stuff. But 304 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: there's a really fascinating write ups they have here with 305 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: sketches and you can see some of these documents and 306 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, these official documents that have been leaked, things 307 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: have been redacted. The website is explore Kingman dot com. 308 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: Explore Kingman dot com. One Reporter was written by Donnakhat 309 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: Campbell in May of nineteen fifty three. According to local 310 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: lore and several UFO experts, there were at least two and. 311 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: Possibly three. 312 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: UFO crashes in Kingman, Arizona that could rival Roswell. 313 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: Let's let me. 314 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: Focus a little bit here on what what Arthur Stancil said. So, 315 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: this guy was a scientist who worked at the nuclear 316 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: test site in Nevada on what was called Operation Upshot 317 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: not whole, and later on Project Blue Book we all 318 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: know about that. And he decided to break his silence 319 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: and tell his story to a well known investigator of 320 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: UFO's named Raymond Faller back in nineteen seventy three, this 321 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: would have been twenty years after the incident, and Fowler 322 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: recorded his interactions in a book called Casebook of a 323 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: UFO Investigator that was published in nineteen eighty one. And 324 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: so Fowler at that time he said that it came 325 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: from Fritz Werner. But later, you know, the truth came 326 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: out that it was Arthur Stancil. Here was the first 327 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: thing that Stancil wrote, I Fritz Werner do solemnly swear 328 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: that during a special assignment with the US Air Force 329 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: on May twenty first of nineteen fifty three, I assisted 330 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: in the investigation of a crashed unknown object in the 331 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: vicinity of Kingman, Arizona. The object was constructed of an 332 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: unfamiliar metal which resembled brushed aluminum. It had impact did 333 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: twenty inches into the sand without any sign of structural damage. 334 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: It was oval and about thirty feet in diameter. An 335 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: entranceway hatch had been vertically lowered and opened. It was 336 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: about three and a half feet high and one and 337 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: a half feet wide. I was able to talk briefly 338 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: with someone on the team who did look inside only briefly. 339 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: He saw two swivel seats, an oval cabin, and a 340 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: lot of instruments and displays. A tent pitch near the 341 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: object sheltered that the dead remains of the only occupant 342 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: of the craft. It was about four feet tall, dark 343 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: brown complexion, had two eyes, two nostrils, two ears, and 344 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: a small round mouth. It was clothed in a silvery 345 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: metallic suit and wore a skull cap of the same 346 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: type material. It wore no face covering or helmet. I 347 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: certify that the above statement is true by fixing my 348 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: signature to this document on this day of June seven, 349 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, and witnessed. Apparently, Fowler looked into Stancel's 350 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: credentials and they were very impressive. There was no question 351 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: about the fact that he had management positions at Wright 352 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio, et cetera, et cetera. 353 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean he again, he was a blast expert. He 354 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: was on special assignment at the Atomic Energy Commission at 355 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: the Atomic Proving ground in Nevada, and in a longer 356 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: statement later on, Stancel described even more about how all 357 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: this went down. He said that he reported for special 358 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: duty the afternoon of May twentieth of nineteen fifty three, 359 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: was driven to Indian Springs Air Force Space, where he 360 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: joined at least fifteen other specialists. They were total leave 361 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: all their valuables, watches, rings, everything in the custody of 362 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: the military police, and then put on a military plane 363 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: and flown to Phoenix. They were not allowed to talk 364 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: to each other, put on a bus with blacked out 365 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: windows so they could not see where they were going. 366 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: He said, quote. We rode for an estimated four hours. 367 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: I think we were in the area of Kingman. We 368 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: were told by an Air Force full colonel that a 369 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: super secret Air Force vehicle had crashed, and that since 370 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: we were all specialists in certain fields, we were to 371 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: investigate the crash in terms of our own specialty and 372 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: nothing more. Finally, the bus stopped and we disembarked one 373 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: at a time as our names were called and escorted 374 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: by military police to the area that we were to inspect. 375 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: Two spotlights were centered on the crashed object, which was 376 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: ringed with guards. The lights were so bright that it 377 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: was impossible to see the surrounding area. The object was 378 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: oval and looked like two deep saucers, one inverted upon 379 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: the other. I got to take a break. When we 380 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: come back, I'm going to tell you more about what 381 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: he saw there, and then how does this apply to 382 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: this brand new mystery buster, the Alien. 383 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 4: I'm Joshua pe Warren. 384 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 385 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'll be back after 386 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: these important messages. 387 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 5: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 388 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 5: to Coast AM paraor Podcast Network. 389 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm your host, Joshua P. 390 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Warren, and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 391 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: So Stancil says. 392 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: The craft was about thirty feet in diameter, with convex 393 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: surfaces top and bottom surfaces about twenty feet in diameter. 394 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Part of the object had sunk into the ground. It 395 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: was constructed of a dull silver metal like brushed aluminum. 396 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: The metal was darker where the saucer lips formed a 397 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: rim around which were what looked like slots. A curved, 398 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: open hatch door was located on the leading end and 399 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: was vertically lowered. There was a light coming from inside, 400 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: but it could have been installed by the Air Force. 401 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: He goes on to say, quote, I managed to glance 402 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: inside at one point and saw the dead body of 403 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: a four foot human like creature and a silver, metallic 404 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: looking suit. The skin on its face was dark brown. 405 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: This may have been caused by exposure to our atmosphere. 406 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: It had a metallic skull captive device on its head. 407 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: As soon as each person finished his task, he was 408 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: interviewed over a tape recorder and escorted back to the bus. 409 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: On the way, I managed to talk briefly with someone 410 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: else who told me that he had glanced inside the 411 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: object and saw two swivel like seats, instruments, displays. 412 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: And so. 413 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: I could give you many, many more details because I mean, basically, 414 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean this is there's a lot of there's a 415 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: surprising amount of paperwork and documentation and newspaper reports and 416 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: leaked supposedly declassified documents and stuff related to this. Now 417 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: this is a podcast, I have limited time, so I 418 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: can't break this down and give you all that information. 419 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: But you know a lot of people have speculated these 420 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: crashes were caused by nuclear testing in the area. There 421 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: is even one investigator who interviewed people who claimed that 422 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: one of the aliens that came from this crash or 423 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: another crash in Kingman around the time, that one of 424 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: these crashes had had an alien that was alive and 425 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: could speak English, called him jay Rod, and that jay 426 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: Rod continued working with the military and helping them to 427 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: back engineer technology and that kind of stuff. This story 428 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: goes on and on, but as usual with these types 429 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: of stories, there's no firm resolution because the idea is 430 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: that something or some things crashed there around around about 431 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: May twentieth, nineteen fifty three, the military swooped in. They 432 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: made everybody shut up. Some of the stuff was taken 433 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: to Area fifty one, some was taken to Right Patterson, 434 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: and you know, things get wheeled off into that big 435 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: warehouse at the end of Raiders of the Lost Art. Now, 436 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: the great thing about this again is that that's where 437 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: we stand. So if you are a UFO researcher and 438 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: you want to go out and start really digging around, 439 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: there may be some stuff to discovery here that hasn't 440 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: been put out before. Something you can break. Heck, take 441 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: a metal detector out there. You know that kind of thing. Now, 442 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: I could say that's the end of the story, but no, no, 443 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: here is the rest of the story because as I 444 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: was there at Tom Devlin's Outpost fifty one Alien Museum, 445 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: there was another display that caught my eye because it 446 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: also regarded something I'd never heard about before. There was 447 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: a glass case sitting there, and inside the case was 448 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: about a four foot shriveled, kind of mummified skeletal body 449 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: of something that looks slightly like an alien. This is 450 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: obviously something that Tom Devlin had created, something what you 451 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: might consider a GAF or something like that. But the 452 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: sign next to it said Buster a shocking revelation. I 453 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: was like, well, what the heck is Buster? 454 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: What is this? 455 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: And here's what the display says next to Buster. In 456 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, a local man named Arlen McGrath discovered 457 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: unusual skeletal remains on the banks of the Colorado River 458 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: near Nelson's Landing, Nevada. Let me pause for a second 459 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: and let you know that Nelson's Landing is about thirty 460 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: eight minutes south of Boulder City, and it is it's 461 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: this beautiful little it's like a cliff and some land 462 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: that kind of it's an outcropping there. That's it's waterfront. 463 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: It's right next to the Colorado River. So when you're 464 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: on Nelson's Landing, it's like a great place where you 465 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: could fish. You're standing there, you're you're looking across the 466 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: Colorado River. One side of the river is Nevada, the 467 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: other side is Arizona. So it's a very rugged area. 468 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: I've only been there once or twice, and it also 469 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: is so again. It's like thirty eight minutes south of 470 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: Boulder City. It's it's about an hour and fifty two 471 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: minutes north of Kingman, Arizona. That area is very haunted 472 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: by the way a lot of miners went there. The 473 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Spanish first found gold in that area Nelson's Landing in 474 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy five. They called it El Dorado, and then 475 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: miners came in and that area around Nelson's Landing there's 476 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: an old ghost town there. It's named after Charles Nelson, 477 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: who was murdered there in eighteen ninety seven. He was 478 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: a mining camp leader, and it's kind of interesting when 479 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: you when you dig into like the spooky stuff around 480 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: that area. He was killed in eighteen ninety seven by 481 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: a Payu Indian named a Vote, and the murder occurred 482 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: after a Vote learned that two of Nelson's employees were 483 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: pursuing a Vote's wife. So Nelson was killed in his 484 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: home along with four others. And this Indian, let's see 485 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: this Piu Indian a Vote. He was a renegade known 486 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: for violence. They say he ultimately killed ten men in 487 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: a spree before local miners forced a Vote's brother to 488 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: execute him as a form of frontier justice. So they 489 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: named that area that town there, Nelson, Nevada, and Nelson's Landing. 490 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: Is a part of that. 491 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: There are all kinds of bizarre stories about devil dogs 492 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: and all kinds of so anyway, that's what we're talking about. 493 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: So going back to the display, it says in nineteen 494 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: seventy three, a local man, Arlen McGrath discovered unusual skeletal 495 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: remains on the banks of the Colorado near Nelson's Landing, Nevada. 496 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: For many years, the remains were believed to belong to 497 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: a chimpanzee and were affectionately nicknamed the Desert Chimp. Arland 498 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: was convinced he had found the bones of a chimp 499 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: which at the time was not considered unusual. In the 500 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties and seventies, exotic pets like chimpanzees were legal 501 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: and not uncommon in the Las Vegas area. The desert 502 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: chimp story circulated for nearly two decades, capturing the curiosity 503 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: of locals and visitors alike. It wasn't until the nineteen 504 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: nineties that researchers took a closer look and realized the 505 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: remains were not from a chimpanzee at all. The skeleton's 506 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: elongated torso, unusually short legs, and long arms did not 507 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: match any known primate species. Instead, these features pointed to 508 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: something far more mysterious. Today, it is believed that the 509 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: remains now known as Buster may have belonged to a 510 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: surviving occupant of the infamous nineteen fifty three kingman Ufo crash. 511 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: Some researchers speculate that Buster may have crossed the Colorado 512 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: River after the crash, but ultimately perish due to the 513 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: harsh desert environment and extreme temperatures. Alongside Buster's remains, a 514 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: fragment of tattered silver colored material was found, weathered and 515 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: darkened from years in the earth. This material is now 516 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: thought to be part of the same metallic fabric described 517 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: by witnesses of the Kingman Crash, believed to have been 518 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: worn by the craft's occupants. 519 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 4: I read that. I was like, what what. 520 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: There's a body and scientists were studying it in the 521 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. Where is this body? What's the conclusion? Where 522 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: are the remains? 523 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 4: Where is the like? What? 524 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: So? 525 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: That's the employee there? And he didn't have any particular 526 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: information about that display. I went home and I got 527 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: on the Internet and I started looking this up, and 528 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: I could not find anything about this story. And I thought, 529 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: you know, maybe, you know, maybe this is something that 530 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: Tom Devlin made up for fun. You know, they have 531 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: like these old wonderful roadside attractions like the Thing and stuff. 532 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: And I thought, maybe, even though the museum is really 533 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: based upon a lot of you know, credible UFO research, 534 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: maybe this is his fun thing that he did, uh 535 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: and just kind of created this for, you know, to 536 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: create a little buzz, little stir. But I wanted to 537 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: know for sure, so I I contacted Tom Devlin. I've 538 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: never tried to contact him directly before, never had a 539 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: reason to. He's a very busy man. I'm a very 540 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: busy man. I mean, I've talked to plenty of his 541 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: staff before and they've been very kind, and they've put 542 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: out rat cards for my tours, and we've kind of 543 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: co promoted each other. And then they I believe they 544 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: even carried the book that David Weatherley wrote about Boulder 545 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: City ghost Stories that I wrote the forward two. But 546 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: I never corresponded with Tom. So I contacted Tom Devlin 547 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: and I said, hey, look, got a quick question for you. 548 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: Said this display about Buster, whatever this you know, the 549 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: desert chump that turns out it's not a chump? You know? 550 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: Is this just something that was done, uh, you know, 551 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: like a roadside attraction for fun? Or is there some 552 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: actual source material here. 553 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 4: Well a few days went. 554 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: By, I didn't hear anything, and I was thinking, like, 555 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if he If he doesn't get back 556 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: to me, because I can't find anything online about this, 557 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to lean toward the fact that 558 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: maybe this is something he did for fun. But last 559 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: night Tom Devlin got back to me. He said, oh, sorry, 560 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: I just now saw your message, and he told me 561 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: what the deal is behind Buster. When we come back, 562 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what Tom Devlin told me, 563 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna switch gears and do some mental manna, 564 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you a little something about the 565 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: strange story of a familiar sauce. I thought this was interesting, 566 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: and so maybe you will too. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. 567 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 568 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 569 00:37:41,560 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this 570 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things, Bob the iHeartRadio and Coast to 571 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren, 572 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: And I asked Tom Devlin, is this buster display? I mean, 573 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: is this just something for fun or is there some 574 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: source material? And here is what he wrote. He said, 575 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: it's all hearsay. I never heard of this until I 576 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: moved to Boulder City, but I have had several people 577 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: tell me the story of the so called desert Chimp, 578 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: especially when working around Nelson's landing on movies late at night. 579 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: I did a film called Bikers Versus were Wolves out 580 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: There and we spent a lot of time looking at 581 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: the stars and talking about Nevada. Stuff that cannot be explained, 582 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: I've had a couple of people in Outpost fifty one 583 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: customers who have told me that this is one of 584 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 1: their favorite local legends as well. And I always jump 585 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: out of my seat and ask if they have any 586 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: idea where the body was recovered, because I would like 587 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: to make a video hunting for Buster's resting spot. 588 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 5: Huh, well, how do you like that? So Tom Devlin 589 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 5: is saying this, No, this is a real local legend. 590 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 5: Locals know about this, Locals have passed this along. 591 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: So I. 592 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 4: Think that's pretty exciting. 593 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: You know. 594 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: He could have said like, oh yeah, I just made 595 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: that up for No, he says, there are people who 596 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: say that this story is legit. So look where does 597 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: that leave us. Well, I'll tell you what. If you 598 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: are a UFO researcher and again you want to make 599 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: a documentary or write a book, well I have just 600 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: given you a gift. You are welcome. Go out there, 601 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: look into this story, see what you can find. And 602 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: mind you if any of you listening happen to know 603 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: anything about the remains of Buster. And I always have 604 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: some bounty money, you know, I'm always happy to send 605 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: some cash for information if it's credible information. So now 606 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: that I've tossed this out there and I've informed a 607 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: lot of people about something that I myself just learned, 608 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm expecting to possibly get some really interesting feedback. So 609 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: now we'll say this is to be continued, I guess, 610 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: but you you know the story of the Kingman, Arizona 611 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: Crash and Buster, the Alien aka aka the Desert Chimp, 612 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: and now for something completely different. I always like to 613 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit and give you more 614 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: than one topic to think about. I one of the 615 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 1: things I like to do for fun is go into 616 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: the kitchen sometimes and experiment. You know, after all, cooking 617 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: is chemistry, and I'm always just trying out wild sauces 618 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: and seasonings and ingredients and just something I do for 619 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: fun to let off some steam. And sometimes I come 620 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: up with some of the most delicious things you've ever eaten. 621 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes I come up with things that are inedible. But 622 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: I'm always sort of like researching the history of food. 623 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: I saw a video the other day and the story 624 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: took me by surprise. 625 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: It's about. 626 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: These two pharmacists in England who were working in the 627 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: eighteen thirties and they had like a pretty standard pharmacy 628 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: there in England, and apparently they knew a lord, Lord Sandy's. 629 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: And one day the lord came walking into the pharmacy. 630 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: He had just gotten back from a big trip. He 631 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: said he'd been in India with the East India Company, 632 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: and he just went on and on and on about 633 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: this special sauce that he encountered in India that he 634 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: said was like nothing else he'd ever tasted before, and 635 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: he wanted to see if they might be able to 636 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: reproduce it. And they said, okay, now, imagine how hard 637 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: this would be. The guy is trying to explain to 638 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: them what this tasted like, and he was very eloquent 639 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: and articulate, so he was giving a lot of, you know, 640 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: valuable details, and they listened and they gave him samples 641 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: of things, and he said, it tastes a little like this, 642 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: a little like that. So finally they said, okay, we'll 643 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: give it a shot. They mixed up something kind of strange. 644 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: As you know, they spent days they mixed let's see here, 645 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: they mixed vinegar with molasses and anchovies and tamarind and 646 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: onions and garlic and various spices. And after they mixed 647 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: it all up, they took a whiff of it. We're like, oh, 648 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: that's bad. You know, anchovies are a little fish, right. 649 00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: So again, I don't know how they came up with it. Vinegar, molasses, anchovies, tamarind, onion, scarlet, spice. 650 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: Very said nah, this is too strong. Yeah, this is inedible. 651 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: So they told him they were sorry that they you know, 652 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: they just couldn't figure out how to to nail what 653 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: he was looking for. They had this fixed in a 654 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: barrel and they just had a warehouse. They put the 655 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: barrel away. I guess they could have poured it out, 656 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,479 Speaker 1: but for some reason they kept it in there. 657 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 4: And then. 658 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: Eighteen months later they needed some space in the warehouse, 659 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,439 Speaker 1: and so they went over and they decided, yeah, let's 660 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: pour this crap out of this barrel, just to open 661 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: the barrel up. And they smelled it and they said, wow, hmm. Interesting, 662 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: now that it's been sitting here and fermenting for eighteen months, 663 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: it suddenly smells really nice. And they tasted it and 664 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: they were shocked. They said it had become very mellowed 665 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: and palatable. And they let the Lord taste it. He says, oh, yes, 666 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: this this is it. 667 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 4: This is perfect. Loved it. 668 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: And they started sharing this sauce with other people and 669 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: everybody loved this weird fermented sauce with all these bizarre ingredients. Well, 670 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: those pharmacists were named John Wheeley Lee and William Henry 671 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: Parns Lee and parents, and their pharmacy was in Worcester, England, 672 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 1: and they started marketing this sauce in eighteen thirty seven 673 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: called Worcester Sauce. I know that some people look at 674 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: how it's spelled and they think it's called worcester Shire sauce, 675 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: but no, it's pronounced Worcester Sauce. And this thing became 676 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: a huge hit and to this day is a huge 677 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: best seller. I actually have a bottle in my hands 678 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: right now. I have a refrig here in my studio. 679 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 1: During the break, I took this bottle of lean parents 680 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: out the original Worcester sauce, and you don't have to 681 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: refrigerate it. I like it cold though, and it does 682 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: hold the flavors longer if it's cold. And what's interesting, 683 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: I love Worcester sauce. And when you when you take 684 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: I put a little bit of it in a shot 685 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: glass here. I'm going to do it right now. When 686 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: you put a little bit of it in a shot 687 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: glass and just taste it alone. Okay, oh man, it's good. 688 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 5: You can Actually I I can taste the anchovies in 689 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 5: there now that I know that. Maybe it's just my imagination, 690 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 5: but once you know what the ingredients are, you kind 691 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 5: of taste all that now. Actually, nobody knows the exact 692 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 5: recipe because you know, I mentioned like there are other 693 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 5: spices and stuff. It's one of those things where, like 694 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 5: to this day, the Lean Parents Company, the original Worcester 695 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 5: Sauce Company, they keep their actual hardcore recipe a secret, 696 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 5: like like a couple of people know it. It's one 697 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 5: of those things that's written down, put into a vault 698 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 5: somewhere because it's like the herbs and spices. 699 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: But they say that here's what's what really makes Worcester 700 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: Sauce so mysterious and so wonderful that that it's is 701 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: like the only thing that hits all the five basic 702 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: taste sensations. Umami, salty, sour, sweet, and bitter. Umami is 703 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: savory salty provided by the anchovies, sour tangy from the vinegar, 704 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: and tamarin sweet from the molasses and sugar, a little 705 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: bitter and spicy from some of those spices and some 706 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: of the peppers, and so this is considered like this 707 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: sea ingredient that chefs will often use because they know 708 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: if they put a few dashes of this in there, 709 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: no matter what they're fixing, it's going to hit the 710 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: note somewhere in your mouth that you like because it 711 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: hits all five basic taste sensations. And one of the 712 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: strangest things about it is the number one country on 713 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: this earth that uses the most. 714 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 4: You think you'd be England. 715 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: No, it's El Salvador, they say. They put they consume 716 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: more Worcester sauce than anywhere else in the world. Why 717 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: I've looked it up. I can't find out why. They say, Well, 718 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: it just seems to fit very nicely into the seafood 719 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,240 Speaker 1: and complementing a lot of the shell fish and stuff 720 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: that they love to eat there. All right, folks, we're 721 00:48:47,719 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: out of time. Here is the good Fortune tone. 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