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Speaker 1: Doug oleg Show, the the oklhom City Thunder or your

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Speaker 1: NBA Champions and Tyre's Haliburton towards Achilles ten. Right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's some other stuff we can talk about, but that's

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Speaker 1: really that's kind of the show today. Rick Bucker is

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Speaker 1: going to join us twenty five after the hour. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Rant was traded over the weekend, and I actually love

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's Kevin Durant's statement yesterday right, which is he

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Speaker 1: and Kay Adams caught up with KD. We'll play that

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Speaker 1: for you next hour. Ryan Hollins will be our guest,

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Speaker 1: so mostly an NBA show, NBA show today. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the NBA Draft, which is Wednesday night. It

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Speaker 1: happens really really quickly, and the Thunder have a couple

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Speaker 1: of picks. I will caution you with the idea of

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Speaker 1: like it's our dinasty, it's a dynasty it let's just

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Speaker 1: here's the way I think it should work. Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: the way I think it should work. It should work

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Speaker 1: in a way in which we go. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: positioned to be competitive at the top of the league

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Speaker 1: for the next half decade if things go right. There

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Speaker 1: you go, it's positioned. They're positioned to be competitive at

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Speaker 1: the top of the league for the next four or

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Speaker 1: five years if things go right. And to anyone who says,

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Speaker 1: you know, listen, a new salary cap, the new you know,

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Speaker 1: the new salary cap, it's it's a dynasty killer or

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Speaker 1: they're the ones best position. That sounds great, but we

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know. And again, you can go back historically,

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics had the Len Bias draft pick. Len Bias

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the guy who reinvigorated them after

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Speaker 1: Bill Walton retired. You know, Larry Bird was starting, he

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Speaker 1: was his body was starting to break down, right, Robert

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Speaker 1: Parrish was getting old. And then len Bias tragically died

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Speaker 1: from a cocaine overdose the night after the NBA draft,

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Speaker 1: Like again, it's crazy. Lewis gosh, what was his name?

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Speaker 1: Reggie Lewis passed away heart issue. He dies, right, So

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Speaker 1: there have been teams. The Chicago Cubs broke, you know,

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Speaker 1: broke the curse, right, broke the curse of the Billy Goat.

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Speaker 1: They were supposed to be a dynasty. And I can

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Speaker 1: is like, we're never winning another one again. These guys

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Speaker 1: and they went on a victory tour and it's never

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think that these thunder are different. Right,

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Speaker 1: they're young, they didn't even know how to open the

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Speaker 1: champagne bottles last night? How great a story was that?

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Speaker 1: Did you guys hear that? Like the champagne bottles weren't popping,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, we guys, you know you won the

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Speaker 1: know how to pop champagne bottles. What that's the greatest

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard. But money and fame and attention

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Speaker 1: a ton of money. But I harken back, you know,

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Speaker 1: watch them now. I don't watch VH one now I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what exists. Does VH one still exist?

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Speaker 1: Feels like a Sam question. Sam, Does VH one exist?

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Speaker 1: Get on your old computer and uh type some things in.

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Speaker 1: But that's not the point. The point is that let's

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Speaker 1: And all it basically is is, you know, it's really

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Speaker 1: because it's really hard when everybody says Yes, it's not

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Speaker 1: and that's what people thought with this Oklahoma City team. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't like the flopping. I mean the lou Dort

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Speaker 1: And I just I think there's a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: which was not particularly well portrayed or maybe analyzed. I

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Speaker 1: How do you get more shots? You get more possessions

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Speaker 1: how do you get more possessions, offensive rebounds and turnovers

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Speaker 4: and that may sound weird considering that they had the

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Speaker 4: best record in the regular season, but this is a

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Speaker 4: team that had never been pasted the second round, and

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Speaker 4: other than Alex Caruso, I believe you didn't have anybody

433
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Speaker 4: with with deep playoff experience, certainly not finals experience, and

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Speaker 4: I think that showed up at various times. The youngest,

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Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, the youngest team to ever win

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Speaker 4: an NBA championship, certainly the youngest team in the league

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Speaker 4: this year. Their overall poise and ability to be resilient

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Speaker 4: with some in some of these series winning two game

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Speaker 4: sevens I thought was impressive. Are they the most dominant

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Speaker 4: team or one of the all time great UH championship teams?

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Speaker 4: I don't see them. I don't see them there. I

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Speaker 4: think there's still a lot of growth that that this

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Speaker 4: team has to be in that to be in that consideration.

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Speaker 4: I think more than anything, what they are is they

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Speaker 4: are the work of GM Sam Presty recognizing how the

446
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Speaker 4: game is changing. And this feeds a little bit into

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Speaker 4: the whole Halliburton thing in terms of how the game

448
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Speaker 4: is played. Uh, it's it's it's just a far more

449
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Speaker 4: athletic game. I think the ability for for players to

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Speaker 4: to to score and be effective is more reliant on

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Speaker 4: their athleticism than the execution of the team. And uh

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Speaker 4: and and Sam Sam saw that and built his team accordingly.

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Speaker 4: And and as a byproduct, they have a championship.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna disagree with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's how they built. I

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Speaker 1: think they actually built the team sort of similarly to

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Speaker 1: how the the previous finals team was built in that

458
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Speaker 1: it really was built defense out, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: and where you need that athleticism is you need guys

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Speaker 1: that can guard. Basically have to be able to guard

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Speaker 1: four or five positions. Yea. And and if you can't you,

462
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Speaker 1: if you can't guard, you better be Shay Gildas Alexander, Right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's really what they did. But you you basically

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Speaker 1: got to be six four and above and be able

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Speaker 1: to guard four or five positions. Sure. And but but.

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Speaker 4: If you're talking about the previous Thunder team that went

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Speaker 4: to the finals, I don't know that they were they

468
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Speaker 4: were that. I mean, maybe maybe that was the blueprint,

469
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Speaker 4: but I don't think it was. I think this team

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Speaker 4: was far more virsatile.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but but but it was. But and to your point,

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Speaker 1: and this is where we agree, but I'm gonna disagree

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Speaker 1: with what your thoughts on that team At the time,

474
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Speaker 1: you had to have two big guys to win the West,

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Speaker 1: because the Spurs had two and the Lakers had two.

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Speaker 1: So they had Kendrick Perkins and Serge Ibaka, right, and

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Speaker 1: then Steven Adams as well. Right. So again, but but

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Speaker 1: it was with the mindset of what does it take

479
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Speaker 1: defensively to keep you in every game? And then when

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Speaker 1: then we need a guy who can who can lead

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Speaker 1: us and we'll figure out the rest, and they play

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Speaker 1: with great spacing, and they kind of hide the fact

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Speaker 1: that Lou Dork can't shoot, and Chake Chay Jed Chet

484
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Speaker 1: can't really shoot, and Carusa is not really good shot,

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Speaker 1: like they kind of hide it because they're so good defensively.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that's the that's the connective tissue between

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Speaker 1: the two groups.

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Speaker 4: I can't I can't disagree to a to an nth degree.

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Speaker 4: I do feel like the asthleticism of this team was

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Speaker 4: far greater than that one, or that the athleticism of

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Speaker 4: that team was more top heavy, and that they were

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Speaker 4: more KD KD RUSS centric. I know that we look

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Speaker 4: at s g A and Jalen Williams and what they were,

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Speaker 4: you know, and the and the roles they carried. But this,

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Speaker 4: this team won in spite of the fact that those

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Speaker 4: guys didn't necessarily always uh shoot or or defend quite honestly,

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Speaker 4: all that well. I feel like the versatility of this

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Speaker 4: team with Chet and and even with Hartenstein to a

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Speaker 4: certain extent, I mean, I can see the lines where

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Speaker 4: they're they're built along the same lines, but I feel

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Speaker 4: like this was a slightly different iteration of that.

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Speaker 1: Quick figures our guest here if I Sports One, Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, H Kevin rant trade to the Houston Rockets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of the Rockets now?

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Speaker 4: I think there they are better. I don't put them

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Speaker 4: in the title contender status, but uh, this is the

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Speaker 4: beauty of when you take a team to the a

508
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Speaker 4: young team to the playoffs, you get to find out

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Speaker 4: who guys are. And I think they found out who

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Speaker 4: Jalen Green was. I thought were at times during the

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Speaker 4: regular season where I thought, you know what, maybe he

512
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Speaker 4: can be that guy. And then we got to the

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Speaker 4: postseason and and quite clearly I don't know that he

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Speaker 4: ever gets there, but he's certainly not going to get

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Speaker 4: there anytime soon. And so you know, the Phoenix Sun

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Speaker 4: made the best of this is where Katie wanted to go,

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Speaker 4: h and so let's get the best deal we possibly can.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I can really judge what the Phoenix

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Speaker 4: Suns got out of it until I see what they

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Speaker 4: do with Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks. I don't think

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Speaker 4: this is the last stop for either one of them.

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Speaker 4: Was this was this is making what they could from

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Speaker 4: KD and beginning the dismantling of of the Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 4: and starting over. So I think they made the best

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Speaker 4: of the situation. I for my money, if I'm if

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Speaker 4: I'm KD and I'm directing where I want to go,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to the Denver Nuggets because that, to me,

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Speaker 4: would give me the best chance of playing for a title.

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Speaker 4: The Houston Rockets have the second best record in the

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Speaker 4: in the West, but four games different from the eighth

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Speaker 4: spot and sixteen games behind OKC. I think there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of ground to be made up for them to

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Speaker 4: be legitimate title contenders.

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Speaker 1: Is Doug otlib Sewan Fox portraited? That's a voice of

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Speaker 1: of Rick Buker. Last thing buke? Okay, what's the next

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Speaker 1: download of Fall? Who's the next star to be traded? Oo?

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Speaker 4: That is that's a great question. I don't think Janni

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Speaker 4: Sante compo. I'm going to take him at his word

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Speaker 4: that he doesn't that he is looking to go elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: I don't put Jonathan Kaminga in that category, but I would.

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Speaker 4: I would fully expect that the move by Houston getting

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant is going to expedite the Warriors doing something

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Speaker 4: they've They've They've got to upgrade beyond where they are.

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything definitive about Karl Anthony Towns, even

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Speaker 4: though there's been a lot of a lot of buzz

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Speaker 4: about that. You know, we need to see see where

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Speaker 4: what the direction of that team is before before they

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00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: make any other decisions. So you know, bona fide star.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that there there is another one, that

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Speaker 4: there is another one right now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, John Morant movement not as you yet, you know

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Speaker 1: what I don't.

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Speaker 4: I really don't think that the move with Desmond Vane.

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Speaker 4: I think that that was a money situation as far

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Speaker 4: as as as where they are. And and I just

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Speaker 4: I look at the Memphis Grizzlies, and I know it's

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Speaker 4: sexy to think that they're going to move, if they're

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Speaker 4: going to move job, but I don't know that you

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Speaker 4: get players of his caliber in in markets like Memphis

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Speaker 4: without without drafting them. And unless John Morant is saying

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Speaker 4: I want to be elsewhere. If I'm the Memphis Grizzlies,

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Speaker 4: I'm not moving.

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Speaker 1: He's Rick Buker. You can see him on Fox Sports One. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: hear him with us on Fox Sports Radio. We just

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Speaker 1: work at Foxsports dot Com. You get the best really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 3: of the Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer and play game.

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Speaker 3: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: Heeep. He apologized, didn't know the camera's not working. We'll

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Speaker 1: get that thing working so we get your uh we

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Speaker 1: get your handsome face on our YouTube channel for highlights.

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Speaker 1: What do you got today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Doug, the game today is big deal, little deal.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tried a couple of times, would not connect, but

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Speaker 2: we'll try to connect on this one. This is a

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Speaker 2: late add to our Big Deal Little Deal No deal script,

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Speaker 2: big deal, little deal or no deal?

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Speaker 1: Doug.

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Speaker 2: Those NBA championship hats last night, those champions hats.

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Speaker 1: No deal.

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Speaker 2: Didn't like them? Huh No, I didn't mind them. In

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Speaker 2: the millennials that work here at Fox Sports, already in

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00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: the hallway hated them like you did.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm a big hat guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you'reformed guy. I'm a hat guy. Those are bad hats.

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00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: I didn't mind the thread. I know I can't pull

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Speaker 2: off that. I liked how it was toned down. I

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Speaker 2: feel like the last twenty years there's just been everything

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Speaker 2: they could put on a hat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like I do like that just the

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Speaker 1: champions was too low. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I am fully aware I'll be in the minority on

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 1: Can I just I do have to say one thing, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it is a no deal as well, that the Thunderhead

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Speaker 1: buses that were painted or or wrapped, they're most likely

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Speaker 1: wrapped before the game, Like you do realize that the

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Speaker 1: Pacers probably had buses as well, right, and that they

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Speaker 1: had a parade route as well. You can't go like, oh,

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Speaker 1: hey we won, guys, we've got planning a parade, Like

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Speaker 1: does not does not work that way, just as not correct.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that every single in.

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Speaker 1: The all time nothing Burger. Ever, it's the Hey, you

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Speaker 1: know they play a championship parade. Yeah, they both did.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to do when you have the

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Speaker 1: possibility of winning an NBA championship.

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Speaker 2: Different for when you hang a banner because you could

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Speaker 2: clinch that night and then you don't clinch or don't win.

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Speaker 2: That's completely different. This is just normal stuff. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: big little deal or no deal that the ABC broadcast

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Speaker 2: team wouldn't shut up during the postgame celebration. Big deal,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's just let the moment breathe.

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Speaker 1: But this is what happens though. Okay, I think Richard

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00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: Jefferson is really good. I'm not sure he's good. That's

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Speaker 1: not a good threesome, not a good pairing. But he's

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Speaker 1: an experience. Doris is that's not what she She's great

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Speaker 1: a sideline and she was badly missed last night. Like,

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Speaker 1: how are we getting a report from Tyrese Haliburton's dad

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Speaker 1: at halftime? I mean, the whole thing was bad. But yes,

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Speaker 1: let it breathe. It's okay to say nothing nothing big.

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Speaker 2: Deal, a little deal of nod deal. Then Nicola Jokich

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Speaker 2: is the player with the shortest odds to win next

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Speaker 2: year's MVP. That online says he's two to one SGA

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Speaker 2: next at nine to four. Is that a big deal,

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Speaker 2: little deal or no deal?

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Speaker 1: A little deal, no deal, let me go back, okay.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the broadcast team, then you get to

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Speaker 1: the studio, right, they're all INIX there holdand like Kendrick Perkins,

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Speaker 1: like those guys are inexperienced in that. And you have

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Speaker 1: an inexperienced host. That's really what's that issue? Right? And

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Speaker 1: you can say, well, you're sexist or whatever like no not.

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of Rhees Davis to be amazing there. They

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say anything. Just don't say anything, or you get in.

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Speaker 1: And part of it is also producer. You got to

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Speaker 1: have somebody kills their mics and just says, let it breed,

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Speaker 1: let it breed, let it breed.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, that's all right, big deal, a little

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Speaker 2: deal and no deal that there's just three days between

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Speaker 2: the finals ending in the NBA Draft beginning.

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Speaker 1: No big deal, no big deal. I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: I think you're capitalizing on some form of momentum because

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Speaker 1: you just saw. If you wait too long, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's like Major League Baseball Now they hand out the

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Speaker 1: awards like a month later, you're like, wait what, I

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Speaker 1: don't even remember what anybody did because it's after the postseason.

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Speaker 1: They're had a regular season awards. I actually like it

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Speaker 1: this way.

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Speaker 2: My favorite thing with this is Doug when you came

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Speaker 2: over to Fox Sports Radio more than eight years ago,

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Speaker 2: you brought this game with you and it's called a

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Speaker 2: big deal, little deal or no deal, but you randomly,

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Speaker 2: like once every six months, add a no big deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it's completely I don't know if it's a little deal.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a big deal, but it's

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Speaker 2: a no big deal and that's game time.

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Speaker 1: No big deal. So Doug Gotlib Show here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radios, Achilles ten in tears, Doctor Gottleib's in the house.

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Speaker 1: It can be my thoughts on it next to the

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Speaker 1: Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio