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Speaker 1: me feel like I'm back in London, like I'm Mary

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Speaker 1: Poppins joining us today. Is our favorite nanny, our favorite

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Speaker 1: nanny in the whole wide world. Mark blupo. Mark, you there, Hera.

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Speaker 1: You always make the medicine go Dwan in the most

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Speaker 1: delightful way. You're a spoonful up sugar. Hello Mark? Or

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Speaker 1: should I? Should I put on my sunglasses now? I'm

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Speaker 1: around such a superstar. Congratulations Mark. I saw a big

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Speaker 1: profile of you were in Instinct magazine dot com. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about it. How did that happen? Yes? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to my friend Ryan Shay. He's an editor

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Speaker 1: at Instinct all right, He's he's an editor at Instinct

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Speaker 1: magazine and he did He reached out and asked to

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Speaker 1: there and all your other accomplishments. So thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for for mentioning us. There was things about you

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Speaker 1: your mom, Dorris? Had she seen the profile, so you're

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Speaker 1: the first one to get it. There was an exclusive

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Speaker 1: to the show, but my family will be reading it

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Speaker 1: later today, very very nice. Thank you for that. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what time it is? It is time times

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Speaker 1: when we start the show with all the gossip of

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Speaker 1: Even better, so sit back for fifty twenty minutes. We've

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Speaker 1: got all the naughty but nice scoop. No mean girls here.

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Speaker 1: We're cheeky, we are a pinch, but we're not a punch.

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Speaker 1: This is an exclusive to start off the show. Kanye

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Speaker 1: wasn't sure he was going to win, but he thought

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Speaker 1: This is a number. He only got sixty thousand, though

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Speaker 1: it's now he's humiliated, absolutely humiliated. Also too, he was

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Speaker 1: is real? Mark to think it's a threat? Do you

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Speaker 1: think he means that? You never know with Kanye? What

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Speaker 1: Britney spears so her her attorney is saying she's afraid

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Speaker 1: Rob Britney's father has been a part of her conservatorship

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Speaker 1: I'm actually Greek and Italian. Sorry I should have readular

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Speaker 1: profile in the Instinct magazine more closely. Greek an Italian

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Speaker 1: I would tell a little bit Beau that you're not

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