1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to our number two Clay 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. I hope all of you are 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: having a fantastic start to your Tuesday as you hang 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: out with us. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: You can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: search out Buck Sexton's name as well. Can find us easily, 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: whether it's on iTunes, whether it's on Stitcher, whether it's 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: on Spotify, whether it's on Google Play. Also want to 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: let you know we're gonna be joined here in a 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: little bit by Jim Jordan, whose House Judiciary Committee subcommittee 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: the Republicans there have uncovered some more emails from doctor 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Fauci which make his behavior look even more suspicious. And 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk with Alex Barrenson, the Twitter band 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Alex Barrenson in the third hour of the program. So 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: that is where we are headed as we continue throughout 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: the course of the program. But there's a lot of 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: discussion last week Buck about the ridiculous January sixth attempt 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: to memorialize by the Democrats and really Kamala Harris coming 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: out and saying it was nine to eleven and Pearl 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: Harbor to her was maybe this headline that got the 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: most attention, ironically of all of this. But one of 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: the questions that has lingered as the January sixth event 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: has been investigated in many ways for political purposes to 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: allow it to continue to fester as a story while 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: not paying attention at all to the summer of riots 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: effectively that occurred all over this country is there's been 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot of questions, I think good ones about who 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: are all of the people that were involved in these riots, 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: and in particular was the FBI. Was your own government 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: involved in helping to fament in any way this incident 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: that occurred at the United States Capitol. So Ted Cruz 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: decided to go after the FBI over these issues. This 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: just happened in testimony in the Senate and ask whether 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: or not the FBI was in any way involved in 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: either the rioting or potentially in violent acts as a 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: part of the rioting. Listen to this clip. How many 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: FBI agents or confidential informants actively participated in the events 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: of January sixth, Sir, I'm sure you can appreciate that. 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: I can't go into the specifics of sources and methods. 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: Did any FBI agents or confidential informants actively participate in 42 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: the events of January sixth? Yes or any wordy six? 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Yes or no? Sir? I can't. I can't answer that. 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Did any FBI agents or confidential informants commit crimes of 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: violence on January sixth? I can't answer that, Sir. Did 46 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: any FBI agents or FBI informants actively encourage and incite 47 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: crimes of violence on January sixth? Six? Sir? I can't 48 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: answer that. Miss Saburn, who is rayeps? Yeah, I'm aware 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: of the individual, Sir, I don't have the specific background 50 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: to him. Okay, Clay, So I know this game pretty 51 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: well because the CIAU of sources and methods, FBI of 52 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: sources and methods. But how hard is it and what 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: are we supposed to think the real accountable accountability will 54 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: be here? How art is it for the FBI to 55 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: just come out and say that this publicly for the 56 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: purposes of restoring faith in that institution for which we 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: have to remember, faith has plummeted in recent years, and 58 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: rightfully so, after Andy McCabe and the Deep State and 59 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: James Comey and the actors, the bad actors. And we've 60 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: now seen through all the reports, we have the information. 61 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Remember Lisa Page and Peter Struck and the tech's back 62 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: and forth, all the stuff, the insurance policy against Donald Trump. 63 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: The FBI is at probably it's lowest level of public 64 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: trust in living memory, I mean at least in my 65 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: living memory. And now it would be a time the 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: FBI should say, hey, just for the purposes of clarity, 67 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: we had absolutely nothing to do with this. We had 68 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: no confidential informants, no undercover agents, nobody involved in the 69 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: pay or at the behesse of the FBI on January sixth. 70 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: The fact that they won't say that, I don't even 71 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: just mean in this one hearing this one circumstance where 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: she's doing the sources and methods game right, can either 73 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: confirm nor deny. I know this game shows you that 74 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: something is funky here, something doesn't smell right. There was 75 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: a guy on video. We've all seen it being pointed out, 76 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: every yelling fed fed fed, saying go into the capital. 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: We also have to remember that the plot against Gretchen Whitmer, 78 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: the governor of Michigan, Remember how we were Donald Trump 79 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: was blamed for it because he was still president. Well, 80 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: then when then actually came out who was really involved. 81 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: There was someone working at the behesse of the FBI 82 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: who was pushing this along in a way that did 83 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: look like in Tratman, it did look like an FBI, 84 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: not agent as any employee of but someone working as 85 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: an informant for the FBI was pushing along a plot 86 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: that might not have gotten very far otherwise. So where 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: are the answers here? We need to get them. Not 88 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: only that, we have an entire committee that is ostensibly 89 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: investigating January sixth that will not ask any of these questions. 90 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: And I think that goes to the lack of public 91 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: trust that exists in general surrounding this entire investigation and 92 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: this entire incident. And Buck, you've done intelligence. You were 93 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: at the CIA when you hear these answers. And by 94 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: the way the answers were coming from, let me make 95 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: sure we get the woman's name right at the FBI. 96 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: That was Jill Sanborn who was testifying on behalf of 97 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: the FBI. Doesn't it raise some wildly interesting questions about 98 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: what exactly was going on and if the media were 99 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: really doing its job This would be something that they 100 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: would almost a meeting follow up on, right, because there 101 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: are so many intriguing aspects associated with those answers. Yeah, 102 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: and also there isn't actually a sources and methods issue 103 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: unless sources and methods and intel speak are at issue, 104 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: meaning that you know, if I ask an FBI agent, 105 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, have you deployed and undercover to Clay Travis's 106 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: home in the last five days, the answer, if they haven't, 107 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty easy. No, we haven't done that, right, right, 108 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: And so it obviously raises suspicion here because if they 109 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: had nobody there, if they had no person working in 110 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: any way tied to federal law enforcement, they could easily 111 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: say no, that's not us. And occasionally, whether it's you know, 112 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: the CIA, the FBI, one of the three letter agencies 113 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 1: will come out for the purposes of public clarity and say, look, guys, 114 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: this wasn't us or we didn't do this. Whether you 115 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: believe them or not, by the way, an entirely different issue, 116 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: but they will at least address it. It is not 117 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: enough for the FBI to try to hide behind sources 118 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: and methods on an issue of absolute paramount public concern here. 119 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: And I think that what you have to remember is 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: that this is an FBI that is tainted as an 121 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: institution by what was done to Donald Trump. The people 122 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: who said, oh, there's no deep state, they would never 123 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: try a palace coup against the president from inside the 124 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: federal bureaucracy, they were wrong. The people who said that 125 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: they tried to overthrow a duly elected president by concocting 126 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: a Russia collusion narrative that was a pure fabrication of 127 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democrat aligne media and deep 128 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: state Democrat actors within the FBI, they were right. And 129 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: we can't forget that now. We can't unlearn the things 130 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: that we've seen. And I think the other question this raises, 131 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: at least for me, in addition to why aren't more 132 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: questions being asked about this, is what's the goal? Right? 133 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, take a step back. You well know this book, 134 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: but everybody out there listening to think about it. Why 135 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: do you usually have an informant? Right? Why is the 136 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: FBI inside let's take it outside of January sixth, or 137 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: anything political. Why might the FBI have someone working inside 138 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: of a drug ring undercover brokenly and they're trying to 139 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: catch people the best way that they can by getting 140 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: the evidence from inside. Right, So what's the goal of 141 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: this incident? It seems like you just mentioned the guy 142 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: that we saw on tape saying, hey, why don't you 143 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: go into the capitol. It seems entirely political in nature. Right. 144 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: In other words, when and this gets into an interesting 145 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: sort of criminal law discussion of when you are trying 146 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: to encourage and I think this is a big part 147 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: of the Governor Regretchen Whitman's story as well. When you're 148 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: trying to encourage someone to commit a crime that they 149 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: would otherwise have not done but for your actions, it 150 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: raises a lot of questions surrounding entrapment. Right, Hey, you 151 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: are trying to create a crime that otherwise would have 152 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: never occurred. And that's what I think you wonder about 153 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: as it pertains the FBI involvement on January sixth, And 154 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: this is where you see Senator Ted Cruz I think 155 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: continues to have his best moments as when he's in 156 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: prosecutor mode. You know, when he is when he's able 157 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: to push somebody who doesn't want to give answers on 158 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: an issue like this, and think of what the broader 159 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: context of all this would be we have clear law enforcement, 160 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: a clear law enforcement gap insecurity and failure on the 161 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: January sixth day, right during that riot, crowd control was 162 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: as everyone understand, if they were really looking into this, 163 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: this would be the discussion. That's the number one question 164 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: that would be a huge part of this. Because everyone 165 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: else who was involved has already been tracked down by 166 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: the FBI. They're prosecuting them. There's not a lessons learned from, Hey, 167 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: we got this guy who broke a window in the 168 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: Capitol who shouldn't be there other than okay, that person 169 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: is now facing punishment and as we've discussed here, in 170 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: some cases facing solitary confinement for months on end for 171 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: nonviolent crimes. But there was a failure of preparation that 172 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: day that is suspect in how inept it was. Right, 173 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: We've seen the video of what looks like the rioters 174 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: being let in. You know, they're just kind of being 175 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: told they moved the barricades. I've seen the video many times. 176 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: You'd probably folks listening and seeing it. Tucker's show has 177 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: shown it many times. So that's one part of the conversation. 178 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: But then also there seems to be no interest in 179 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: finding the pipe bomb. They would be pipe bomber, the 180 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: guy who left pipe bombs outside DNC and RNC headquarters. 181 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Very little interest in this Ray Epps character who keeps 182 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: coming up in the video of him. And also the 183 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: possibility that if the FBI had people who were in 184 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: any way involved in this. You know, what was the hugestinction? 185 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: How did this go bad? It went bad because some people? 186 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: How did it become a riot and not a protest? 187 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: In part? Some people decided that they were going to 188 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: actually breach the capital and go inside, and that's wrong 189 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: and that was illegal. But where did that idea start? 190 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Where did it come from? Who was pushing it? We 191 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: should know that that should be something that is public 192 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: record now. And I think it also goes to Clay 193 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: why we don't have all the footage release from Capitol 194 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Hill that's out there. There are a lot of things 195 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: they don't want to talk about. All they want to 196 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: make sure is that all Trump voters are insurrectionist and 197 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump can't run again. That's really what this is about. 198 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: It was their fevered dream. This was the dream of 199 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the left wing industry. Was they wanted Trump to do 200 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: something that they found to be so outside the bounds 201 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: of acceptable democratic behavior, and up to January sixth, there 202 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: had really not been anything. And in fact, and I've 203 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: been arguing this for a long time, and I think 204 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: you would agree, but for COVID, Trump would have won 205 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: against Joe Biden and it wouldn't have been remotely close. 206 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: So they got their meteor, so to speak, streaking across 207 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: the Knights guy that struck the United States political fabric. 208 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: But it was totally something that Trump was in no 209 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: way responsible for. 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Seems like the not so good 244 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: Doctor may be untruthful, may have been on truth Flush's 245 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: including perhaps under oath about Wuhan Institute of Virology, Gain 246 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: of Function Research, and a whole lot more. We'll talk 247 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: to about that, and don't forget Alex Barrenson gonna have 248 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: some Barrens in truth bombs dropping at three oh five 249 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: Eastern time when Clay and I have on the author 250 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: of pandemia. So you can either you know, listen to 251 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: programs like this one, for example, listen to Clay and 252 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: back here. Sorry that was the third person, but you 253 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean, listen to us and trying to 254 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: just look at what's really going on and be normal. 255 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: As I was saying to Clay, just just be cool, 256 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: right like we're figuring stuff out. Just be normal. Just 257 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: be normal everybody. As we're trying, you're trying to get 258 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: back to normal life, trying to look at things as 259 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: they are. We're not when I'm in the hysterics and 260 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: craziness and I just want to be clear. Over at CNET, 261 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: it seems in terms of their coverage, but sometimes they 262 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: even say it out loud. They are very upset at 263 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: the notion that, like this audience is gonna just be normal, 264 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: like just gonna roll about their day, live their lives, 265 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: not be like, oh my gosh, I need to wear 266 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: three masks and maybe goggles and I'm gonna wear gloves, 267 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, all the double mask like Walinski did it 268 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: or Eddard testimony today. I mean, she wasn't double masking 269 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Anyone who doesn't see this for 270 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: the stupidity and the ostentatious virtue signaling that it is, 271 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. At some point about 272 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: Fauci Buck, you tweeted about this too, taking his mask 273 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: off to answer questions and then putting it back on. 274 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: Otherwise he takes the virus seriously. He is the absolute worst, 275 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the absolutely less. But anyway, they're they're very 276 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: upset at the notion. I think there's there's the old 277 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: line about like a fundamentalist is somebody who lives in 278 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: the constant fear that someone somewhere is enjoying their life, 279 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: or some variations of the quote CNN lives in the 280 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: constant fear that some of you listening to this right now, 281 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: somewhere across the country are enjoying your lives and living 282 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: lives of purpose and not abject fear because of the 283 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: fauci eite apparatus. Here is one of their own over 284 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: at CNN saying people are just living their lives. A 285 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of the media does seem when I look at 286 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: it and then travel the country to be very touch 287 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: with people. I mean, if you travel the country, people 288 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: are not really living in the same bubble that it 289 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: seems that most of the media is messaging toward. And 290 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: so yeah, and so I think this is an issue 291 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: because if people are tuning out what's going on on 292 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: cable news, if we're not messaging toward the general population, 293 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, they're just you know, ignoring everything and living 294 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: their lives. And we're not really getting the perfect that's perfect. 295 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: They're just they're ignorings of cable news and living their lives. Yes, 296 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: do that, hang out with us and ignore those clowns, 297 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: because we're telling you live your lives. Yeah, And I 298 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: think it's also reflective, and this is one of the 299 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: things that concerns me a little bit, to the extent 300 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: that I'm concerned about it. Buck, the Supreme Court justices 301 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: all live on the East Coast, and I talk to 302 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: people constantly, and I know you've lived this example, but Buck, 303 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: the difference between the way people are leaving living on 304 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: the East and West Coast and the way that they 305 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: are living in the middle part of the country. Oftentimes 306 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: you think whatever is going on around you is representative 307 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: of what the larger universe is. I mean, you came 308 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: on the road from New York, for instance, and went 309 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: to a college football game, no masks anywhere. Everybody's leaving 310 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: living a completely normal life. You were in Florida. You 311 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: go back to New York, and it's a totally different 312 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: universe in which in which people are living. Just as 313 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to learn about the latest COVID data, 314 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I was also seeing apparently it was a good night 315 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: for bulldogs. And I love bulldogs as actual pets, but 316 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: apparently there's a mascot for a certain team that had 317 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: a good night Georgia Georgia. Buck broke a forty one 318 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: year non tidal streak and took down the Alabama Crimson 319 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: Tide last night. Bigwen Wow. Interesting, not the Tide is 320 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: not rolling so much. Tide is not rolling right now though. 321 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: They'll be the number one team in the country next year. 322 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: And Georgia had been close for many, many years since 323 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty to winning a national championship. They got it done, 324 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: big audience last night. I imagine Jim Jordan up with 325 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: this next exciting game. Jim Jordan's gonna be joining us 326 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: a second. You know, on the days you need a 327 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: cup at delicious fully caffeinated coffee, remember this name Black 328 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: Rifle Coffee. This is fantastic. It tastes so good. 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We've got 345 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Jordan on with us right now, and Congressman 346 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: you guys, you've got doctor Fauci testifying on Capitol Hill today, 347 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: and you guys have uncovered some more interesting emails from 348 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: Fauci relating to what exactly went on with the Wuhan 349 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: virology lab and how COVID emerged. What can you tell 350 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: us about the emails? Then the letter that you sent 351 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: today from the get go, From the get go, it 352 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: looks like doctor Fauci, doctor Collins knew this thing likely 353 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: came from a lab, and then they went into overdrive 354 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: to cover their backside and make sure the country did 355 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: not know that we were able to We had the 356 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: staffing who's able to go in and view these emails 357 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: in camera because what we had got the AFOYA we're 358 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: all redacted, but never forget play that. On January thirty first, 359 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, there's an email that comes at ten thirty 360 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: pm at night to doctor Fauchi. The email sales virus 361 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolutionary theory. Comes from 362 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: doctor Christian Anderson, one of the virologies who's been getting 363 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: your tax money and grand dollars over the years. Virus 364 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: not consistent with evolutionary theory. Virus looks engineered. Ten thirty 365 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: two pm, January thirty first, twenty twenty. And that's a 366 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: fancy way of saying this thing came from a lab. 367 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: And doctor Fauchi starts emailing people at two in the morning, because, 368 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: you know, starting this process in place to say we 369 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: don't want that information out there. There's a conference call 370 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: the next day, and that conference call it's Fauchi, Collins 371 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: and eleven virologists from around the world who also been 372 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: getting your tax dollars and your listeners tax dollars over 373 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: the years. And what we finally got were the emails 374 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: that happened on that as a result of that conference call, 375 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: where I think they were frankly getting their stories straight, 376 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: because now that we've seen the unredacted emails, they all 377 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: say that. One of them says, I just can't figure 378 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: how this thing gets accomplished in nature, so the other one, 379 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: the other one says, I really can't think any plausible 380 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: natural scenario. So these guys understood this thing had to 381 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: come from a lab, but they spend the next several 382 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: months trying to sit downplay that. And we got other 383 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: emails that talk about that this thing, oh no, it 384 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: came in nature, didn't actually, So how these guys switched 385 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: in that short a ton is amazing to me. But 386 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: I think it just shows that they were more concerned 387 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: about covering their backside. And frankly, we have one that says, 388 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: we don't want to upset, we don't want to do 389 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 1: any potential harm to science or international harmony. That's an 390 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: email from Collins to Fauci. So it's almost like they 391 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: were more concerned about the Chinese people's feelings, the Chinese 392 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: government's feelings, than they were getting the truth to the 393 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: American people. Congressman Jordan, it's buck I want to know 394 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: what you think should be done about all of this. 395 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: I Fauci today was getting grilled by Senator Ran paul 396 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: A bit on this same issue of coordinating to crush 397 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: epidemiologists in the early days who weren't going along with 398 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: the party line, whether it was about Wuhan or any 399 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: number of other things. By the way that there was 400 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: bureaucratic in fighting, I think that's really Fauci's true skill 401 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: as being a bureaucratic infighter and somebody who can lay 402 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: the old DC ambush on folks. And I want to 403 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: know what you think should be done about this? Is 404 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: we continue to get this information, we're talking about these emails. Now, 405 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: where should we go and what does accountability or change 406 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: look like as a result of these revelations. Well, well, 407 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: what one thing that should certainly happen is we should 408 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: not be using American tax dollars to fund gain a 409 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: function research That should be just like that should be 410 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: prohibited period. That needs happened. Second, the power that Collins 411 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: and Fauci have Fauci still has Collins has left the government, 412 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: thank goodness, but the power that they have because they 413 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: control so much money. You know what the budget is 414 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: to NIH and CDC. It's fifty six billion dollars a year, 415 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: and they're handing out some of that money to these virologists. 416 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: These virologists who say, on February first, on this conference call, 417 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: they say this thing came from a lab in different words, 418 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: and then four days later their story changes, and then 419 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: they write an article. Seventeen days later February and teeth 420 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: they write an article that they first give to Fauci 421 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: to edit before it appears in Nature Medicine magazine. So 422 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: the eleven people on that call then are authors of 423 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: this article that goes in Nature's Medicine magazine, and they 424 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: change their position and they say, no, no no, no, it 425 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: didn't come from a lab at all. So it changed 426 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: in that short of time. What did Fauci and Collins 427 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: tell these guys and did they pass any of this information? 428 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Did Fauchier Collins pass any of this information to President 429 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: Trump and his team? This is something the President of 430 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: United Stakes needs to know. If it came from a 431 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: lab that we funded, they were doing gain a function research, 432 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: the President of United States, the Commander chief, needs to 433 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: know that, particularly when the country's China. Did they share 434 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: it with him, because it sure looks like they didn't. 435 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: They went into complete cover their backside mode. So yeah, 436 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: they need to be held accountable. And what needs to happen, 437 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: certainly as a law needs to change is we should 438 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: not be even thinking about funding gain A function research, 439 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: Collressman Jordan, When are there going to be consequences for 440 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci? I mean, he's the highest paid government employee 441 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: in the entire country. As you have pointed out rightly, 442 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: our tax dollars have gone to subsidize gain A function 443 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: research that may well have led and helped to a bet. 444 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: Certainly it appears the data reflects this, the release of 445 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: COVID across the world and all of the impact that 446 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: has had since. Yet Fauci is making over four hundred 447 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year. I believe he's the highest paid 448 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: governmental employee in the entire country, which is crazy, and 449 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: there seemed to be zero consequences for him. How does 450 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: that change? When is he going to bear any consequences? Well, 451 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: I think it does change to in fact, the American 452 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: people put us back in control of the Congress, because 453 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: then we'll be able to bring Fauchie in and we'll 454 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: be able to get these documents, and frankly, we'll be 455 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: able to subpoena to the people. He was those eleven 456 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: of virologists on that call. We'll be able to subpoene 457 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: to some of those individuals and ask them the tough questions. 458 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: So it begins to change, I think when we get 459 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: back in control. But I keep coming back to this 460 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: a clay, the influence these guys have. There's one email 461 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: that doctor Collins, Francis Collins sends to doctor Fauci and 462 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: he said, I hope the Nature Medicine article would settle 463 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: this debate about whether this thing started. And then the 464 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: very next sentence and that email says, anything more we 465 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: can do. So the keyword in there is more. In 466 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: other words, they were the ones behind getting these virologists 467 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: on the outside to write the article that said what 468 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Fauchi and Collins wanted it to say. And the reason 469 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: that all happens, is my guest, is is because these 470 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: guys want the money. They want the money to come 471 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: from Fauchi and Collins, so they're willing to write an 472 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: article that they disagreed with. As evidence by what they 473 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: said in their emails on that initial conference call on 474 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: February first, twenty twenty. So yeah, we gotta be able 475 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: to bring him in, but the Democrats wont They won't 476 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: even bring him in for a hearing in front of 477 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: the House anymore. In the Senate they can get Fauchian 478 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: and these guys in like they did today, but in 479 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: the House they would't have been let him come in 480 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: for a hearing. In fact, there's a briefing later this 481 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: afternoon we're getting on the Coronavirus Select Committee. It's private. 482 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: The American people don't even get to see what's happening. 483 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: Will Lynsky's going to brief members of that of our 484 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: committee privately hide it from the American people, which is 485 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: just completely wrong. Speaking to Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio, 486 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, Congressman, right before you came on, we were 487 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: talking about the questioning of a senior FBI official on 488 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill or via zoom but during a hearing by 489 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz basically saying, look, was there any FBI 490 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: involvement in putting putting informants or other actors in the 491 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: crowds on January sixth? What do you make of all that? 492 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, do you is this an area that concerns you, 493 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: and how could we get answers, especially if going forward, 494 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: perhaps we have a majority in the House. Yeah, well right, 495 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: we need we need, we needed an answer to that 496 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: because we know it's happened before. We know in a 497 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: situation in Michigan, we know that there were FBI informants 498 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: in part of that that that effort they're regarding Governor 499 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Whitmer there, So we know what's happened before. And then 500 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: of course we've all seen some of the video that 501 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: one of my colleagues actually brought up to when we 502 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: had Merrit Garland, the Attorney General in front of the 503 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee. Thomas Matthew brought it up. Tucker Carlson has 504 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: played on this show regarding this individual name Ray Apps 505 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: and the way he conducted himself. So I think it's 506 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: a fair question. I would like some answers. There are 507 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: lots of things we need answers. For examples, today, Buck, 508 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: we just find out today that, oh, it was exactly 509 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: like we talked about on your show a few months ago, 510 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: the school boards issue and the and the Justice Department 511 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: targeting mom's, the dads who have the audacity to show 512 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: up at a schoolboard meeting. It didn't start with the 513 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: school Boards Association writing the letter to the government. It 514 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: was the other way around. They just used that letter 515 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: as the pretext. We now have the story with the 516 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: emails from Secretary of Education Cardona and these the head 517 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: of the school Boards Association, so we know this kind 518 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: of stuff that's happened before. It's a fair question that 519 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: Senator Cruz asked, let's hope we can get some answers 520 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: at some point. Why do you think they're having a 521 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: new counter terrorism domestic terrorism focused unit formed within the 522 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. Congressman, it's this whole weaponization. It's a 523 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: great question, Buck, It's this whole weaponization of government against 524 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: the people. Mean, the idea that we had a whistleblower 525 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: come forward and say they're asked putting a designation on 526 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: moms and dads who are going to school board meetings 527 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: speaking out against a crazy crke curriculum. The idea that 528 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: there's a designation, a threat tag put on parents, and 529 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: now we have a domestic terrorism unit being formed at 530 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice to go after Americans is frightening 531 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: when you couple it with everything we've seen over the 532 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: last few years, with what the FBI did to President 533 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Trump's campaign, with what they're doing to school boards, with 534 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: what we now learned today, with what the Education Department 535 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: Secretary of Education did that it started with him and 536 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: it was pretextable to start this whole process to go 537 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: after parents. It is frightening and it needs to stop. 538 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: And that's why we've called for the Attorney General to 539 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: stop that. We've called for the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, 540 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: mister Nadder, to bring Merritt Garland back in to answer 541 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: questions because we think he completely misled the country when 542 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: you're testified in October. Last question for you, Congressman, you, 543 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure have seen twenty six Democratic House members have 544 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: decided not to run for reelection. We're still always away. 545 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: You talked about the mid terms and there importance and 546 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: holding Fauci accountable. What would you set the over under 547 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: at right now? How confident are you that Democrats are 548 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: going to lose the House Republicans are going to take 549 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: it back in the mid terms. Well, I mean, look, 550 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: you know your backgrounds in sports like like minus play, 551 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: you're never over confident, But I am confident. I mean, 552 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: think about the Democrats message particularly what they're saying in 553 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: big cities right now, and big cities Democrats are saying, 554 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: we won't let your kids go to school. We're gonna 555 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: make it, We're gonna let bad guys roam the streets, 556 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: and we're also going to let illegal immigrants votes. I mean, 557 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: that is the three things that Democrat Party is now 558 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: for controlled by the leftist that control that party. So 559 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: I think the American people are saying, we're fed up 560 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: with that. And then you couple that with inflation, the 561 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: bordering climate, everything else, and then the idea that they're 562 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: now weaponizing government to go against their political enemies. If 563 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: we don't take it back, I would be shocked. 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Eight 601 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two two eight eight two And just 602 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: a reminder, we have author of Pandemia, the man whose 603 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: sub stack is the bane of doctor Fauci's existence, Alex 604 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: Barnson will be with us in just a few moments, 605 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: former New York Times reporter from a long time ago, 606 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: and a guy who has been right so much. If 607 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: you've been listening to this show, you're just it's mind blowing. 608 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: And then you add into it that he's been kicked 609 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: off social media all over the place. They never bring 610 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: him back, Clays and amazing. They never bring him back 611 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: and say we're sorry, you were right. We're idiots, we're libs. Well, 612 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: what can you do? They never do that, And you 613 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: got some pretty stunning new data that we're going to 614 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: bring in the conversation with Alex that I wanted you 615 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: to tell everybody because something's not adding up here. Yeah, 616 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: we just hit The Wall Street Journal just reported that 617 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: we hit a new COVID hospitalization record and average of 618 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty thousand, five hundred and seventy six patients. 619 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: That is higher than it has ever been for COVID 620 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: in in since March of twenty twenty. And so I 621 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of people out there when they hear 622 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: this information, now there is discussion, and we should continue 623 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: to have this discussion surrounding the fact that many people 624 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: who are hospitalized I'm putting it in quotation marks for 625 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: COVID are actually not there because of COVID. They're there 626 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: because they are they have COVID if they find out 627 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: when they go there. For instance, if you go in 628 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: to have a baby and you are soon to be 629 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: delivering a baby and they find out that you have COVID, 630 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: you would be listed as a COVID hospitalized patient, even 631 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: though COVID is not the reason you're in the hospital. 632 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: And having said that the data has been the same 633 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: in the way that we count COVID hospitalizations. We haven't 634 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: changed the method by which we do that. So the 635 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: fact that we are hitting a new all time high 636 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: of one hundred and forty thousand, five hundred and seventy 637 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: six average COVID patients reflects that the vaccines to a 638 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: large extent, are not stopping, as we know, the spread 639 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: of COVID in any kind of significant way. In fact, 640 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, now one year into his presidency, when he 641 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: promised that he was going to shut down COVID, he 642 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: basically ran his entire presidential campaign on that idea well bucked. 643 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: The numbers reflect that there are now one hundred and 644 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: forty five hundred and seventy six people, the most ever 645 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: hospitalized with COVID in this country, and unfortunately a lot 646 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: of those people are going to Based on the data 647 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: in the past, you would think that deaths are going 648 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: to continue to rise, because deaths tend to follow by 649 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: two or three or four weeks the overall peaks in 650 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: the number of cases. Hopefully it won't be as high 651 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: this time as it was in the summer of last year, 652 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: but certainly this is not ideal and alarming data that 653 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: I think would stun a lot of people. If we 654 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: had said this with Alex Barrenson buck back in June 655 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: or July, people would have told us we were crazy, 656 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: that we were going to set all time COVID hospitalization 657 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: records in January of twenty twenty two. And I think 658 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: it's very important to note that right now, the official 659 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: word from the CDC on this, and this could be true, 660 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: this is the official word right now, is that of 661 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: those in the hospital, a small number by percentage are vaccinated, 662 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: and a even small or vanishingly small number, you know, 663 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: something along lines of one percent are dying who are vaccinated. 664 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: That's what they tell us. That is something we're going 665 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: to need to dig into pretty substantially. I think one 666 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: area where you're going to see a lot of messing 667 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: with the numbers to service the narrative is when they 668 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: say vaccinated. Remember that this keeps changing all the time. 669 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: Are we are we now going to consider somebody who 670 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: is unboosted to not be in the fully vaccinated category? 671 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: How is that going to play into the data? Essentially, 672 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: You've got the Fiser CEO, you know, I just saw 673 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: they had a copyright claim on that video. They're pulling 674 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: it down from places on the internet. Now really, yeah, yeah, 675 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: a copyright class I mean that, first of all, is 676 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 1: the essence of newsworthy, Like, I can't believe they would 677 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: be trying to blow I can't believe you'd be trying 678 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: to pull back you know what's going I saw this 679 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: was on Jesse Kelly's Twitter account, which by the way, 680 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: is a source of great amusement for many of us 681 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: who followed Jesse and and so it looks like they're 682 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to get this out of the public view 683 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: that you have the CEO of Fiser saying two shots 684 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: doesn't do very much at all for protection from infection. 685 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: It's pretty good for now is something they said something 686 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: like that against hospitalization and death? Does that mean that 687 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: we're going to find out a lot of the people 688 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: who are hospitalized, and maybe a good percentage unfortunately of 689 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: those who are hospitalized and actually succumb to the virus 690 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: are vaccinated but not boosted. You know, this is where 691 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: I know it's all kind of in mesh together, and 692 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of parsing have to do here, folks. 693 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: But keep in mind they've been lying to you about 694 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: this stuff for a long time. So I think it's 695 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: only fair to say we should approach some of this 696 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: with some skepticism. What do you say, Clay, No doubt 697 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: at all. And I'm actually fascinated to see what the 698 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: latest data is from Alex Berenson. I mean, he has 699 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: been so far ahead in terms of analyzing the data 700 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: and letting us know. Remember when everybody was saying, oh, 701 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: COVID's over in June and July, we said he was 702 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: the prince of darkness, riding in to spoil everybody's parade, 703 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: and he ended up one hundred percent right. I'm just 704 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: waiting for the day when finally they have Fauci and 705 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: they grab him and he says, I would have gotten 706 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: away with it if it wasn't for that Barrenson coming up. 707 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 708 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: EIB Network.