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Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, I

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Speaker 1: am solo with all of you today. Buck is out

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Speaker 1: Friday and Monday, and we will take you into the

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Speaker 1: weekend with the absolute latest going on everywhere in the world,

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Speaker 1: most particularly in Iran, where the news continues to be

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Speaker 1: very positive despite the way that much of the media

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Speaker 1: is covering it. We will give you the absolute latest

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Speaker 1: on everything there. The TSA issues, unfortunately, are spreading like wildfire.

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Speaker 1: I saw this morning as I was getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the show, and there are probably many other places as well,

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Speaker 1: New York City, Houston, Atlanta multi hour long lines to

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Speaker 1: be able to get through airport security. John Fetterman is

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Speaker 1: less popular with Pennsylvania Democrats, so much so that I

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Speaker 1: would argue, and may make this case, he should actually

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Speaker 1: flip parties and start to caucus with the Republicans, or

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Speaker 1: he should potentially run as a independent and caucus with

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Speaker 1: the overall Republican Party. I think both of those would

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Speaker 1: probably be better suited because most of his popularity now

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania is with Republicans, not Democrats. We will talk

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Speaker 1: about that. We'll have some fun with the NCAA tournament underway,

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Speaker 1: We've got some fun audio clips for you. I hope

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Speaker 1: that your brackets are at least somewhat unbusted, relatively speaking.

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Speaker 2: But we begin with.

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Speaker 1: The situation in Iran and with President Trump ruminating, determining, analyzing, contemplating,

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Speaker 1: potentially going into carg Island and that being the ultimate,

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Speaker 1: shall we say it, Trump card of what might be

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Speaker 1: necessary in order to finally get the Iranian government such

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Speaker 1: as it is, to actually stand down. And there continue

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Speaker 1: to be lots of talks about whether Trump has been

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Speaker 1: influent by Israel, and the overall price of oil and

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Speaker 1: in any way in Iran's favor.

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Speaker 2: It might be the only thing.

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Speaker 1: But I do think the media overall has done a

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Speaker 1: poor job of explaining just exactly what is going on

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Speaker 1: and how well we are all doing. Notwithstanding that a

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Speaker 1: poll came out this morning from Politico that I thought

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Speaker 1: and that is showing that President Trump in Iran is

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Speaker 1: actually pretty popular overall. As these things go, nothing is

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Speaker 1: very popular in politics, no matter what side you're on,

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Speaker 1: except honestly, the Save America Act, which of course can't

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Speaker 1: actually get passed so far. But Politico asked do you

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Speaker 1: or do you not support the strikes in Iran? Overwhelming

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Speaker 1: majorities of Trump voters do in fact support them. Some

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Speaker 1: of you who are hyper online get convinced that a

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Speaker 1: small minority of active voices online represent larger audiences than

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Speaker 1: they do. Politico found eighty one percent support More people

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Speaker 1: don't know whether they support this or not than actually

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Speaker 1: oppose it among the President's voters. Even overall, and this

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Speaker 1: is a poll I shared, you can go check it

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Speaker 1: out on my Twitter feed at Klay Travis. Overall, forty

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Speaker 1: three percent of Americans support this, according to Politico poll

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Speaker 1: came out this morning, support our actions in Iran, thirteen

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Speaker 1: don't know what they think, which actually probably should be

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Speaker 1: and then thirty three percent opposed. This would actually make

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Speaker 1: the war in Iran one of the more popular elements

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Speaker 1: of the Trump activity so far. Again, you can go

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Speaker 1: check out that is a political poll that came out

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Speaker 1: this morning. And President Trump earlier this morning said hey,

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Speaker 2: We're doing really well.

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Speaker 1: He's updating us on the status of the Iranian army

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Speaker 1: and spoiler alert, there isn't much left of the Iranian army.

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Speaker 2: This is what Trump said this morning. Cut one, I want.

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Speaker 3: To begin, but I just say we're doing extremely well

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Speaker 3: in Iran. The difference between them and US is they

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Speaker 3: It's all at the bottom of the sea. Fifty eight

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Speaker 3: but we are doing really well. We're not going to

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Speaker 3: Should have been done a long time ago by other presidents.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the big debate now is what should happen

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Speaker 1: going forward. Israel is continuing to take out all of

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Speaker 1: the leaders of Iran. Yesterday we play audio from Scott Bessett,

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Speaker 1: to be signs of an uprising inside of Iran from

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Speaker 1: think you have to be careful in what you pay

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Speaker 1: think this argument is entirely illegitimate. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: But the new argument is Trump isn't making his own decisions,

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Speaker 1: He's just doing whatever Israel wants him to do. I

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Speaker 1: I do think when these arguments are out there, it's

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Speaker 1: worth going back in time and playing Trump in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties explaining exactly what he is doing today and

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Speaker 1: being in favor of these actions in Iran long before

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Netnahu, the leader of Israel, had a press availability

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Speaker 2: Here's cut twelve.

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Speaker 4: I want to close these opening remarks with one other

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Speaker 4: fake news, and that is that Israel somehow dragged the

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Speaker 4: US into a conflict with you on, Does anyone really

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Speaker 4: think that someone can tell President Trump what to do?

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Speaker 2: Come on?

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Speaker 4: President Trump always made makes his decisions on what he

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Speaker 4: thinks is good for America, and may i add I

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Speaker 4: think what is also good for future generations. In this case,

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Speaker 4: those interests are absolutely clear, and so is the clarity

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Speaker 4: of our achievements together in close coordination with President Trump,

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Speaker 4: the close coordination between America and Israel. Are militaries, are

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Speaker 4: intelligence services. We're achieving goals and lightning speed.

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Speaker 2: Now it is fair to say, how does this end?

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Speaker 1: That Buck was talking about this yesterday, I think that

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Speaker 2: What is the exit here?

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Speaker 1: What is the process by which this winds itself down?

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Speaker 1: Does at some point the United States involvement give way

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Speaker 1: And does Israel continue on its own to bring strikes

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Speaker 1: feel like Trump in many ways. This is my prediction,

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Speaker 1: is leaning towards the idea of taking carg Island, which

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Speaker 1: President Trump believes, I think that if he controls carg Island,

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Speaker 1: Remember this is kind of wild, but these strikes have

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the Strait of Hormos, the

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Speaker 1: Looking at crude oil futures right now, they are roughly

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Speaker 1: Iran's only ability right now is to try and get

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Speaker 1: President Trump this morning rightly called out NATO and said,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, We've already won this war in terms

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Speaker 1: And remember, I think he's going to probably use as

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Speaker 1: since that point in time, Venezuela is starting to produce

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Speaker 2: So bringing it back.

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Speaker 2: It's a Friday edition of the program.

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Speaker 1: We've got Katie Miller's scheduled to join us, wife of

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Speaker 1: Steven Miller. She's got a popular podcast on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: A lot we've been texting some about the future of

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Speaker 1: guests as well. It is the Friday edition of Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck. And I want to tell you, maybe you

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Speaker 2: Bit late last night.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you were like me, staying up late watching the

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Speaker 1: NCAA tournament games. They did not end until well after

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Speaker 1: We played Benjamin net Yahoo sharing his opinion that nobody

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Speaker 1: Forty six years ago? Almost this is what Trump was saying.

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Speaker 5: Listen, he should read be a country that gets the

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Speaker 5: And brought our boys out. I absolutely feel that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is nineteen eighty Trump forty six years ago. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here is Trump and Barbara Walters, this is twenty twenty,

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Speaker 6: Listen, as far as Trump is concerned, our allies are

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Speaker 2: The real culture is Iran.

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Speaker 5: Why couldn't we go in and take over some of

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Speaker 7: How would you do that? Would you send in the Marines?

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Speaker 2: You take their oil?

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Speaker 7: That's what I ow. How I mean, do we want

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Speaker 2: What do we take their oil?

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Speaker 7: You go in, you have a week, go in. You're

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Speaker 7: Excuse me, You're going to have a war and it's

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Speaker 7: I don't believe they'd do it. The next time Iran

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Speaker 1: And this idea that somehow other people have convinced him

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Speaker 1: several different news stories that are out there continuing to

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Speaker 4: Thisy proves that, unfortunately and unhappily, Jesus Christ has no

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Speaker 1: I think that's incredibly well said, and here are a

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Speaker 6: They hold hostage their families the regime. This is the

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Speaker 1: Iran that is better for the vast majority of the

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Speaker 1: to be any sort of uprising that could return a

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Speaker 1: so far, in order to try to implement something like that,

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Speaker 1: it requires a lot of troops on the ground, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: a lot of you who served in Iraq and a

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Speaker 1: with troops on the ground, trying to create a government

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Speaker 1: of the different insane consequences that came from that. One

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Speaker 1: to this, but as someone who has studied military history,

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Speaker 1: I do wonder whether the modern era of drones has

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Speaker 1: changed the calculus in terms of an ability to foment

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Speaker 1: a revolution without requiring troops on the ground.

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Speaker 2: What do I mean by that?

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Speaker 1: Right now we have tactical air superiority all over Iran.

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Speaker 1: I shared the story from the Wall Street Journal earlier

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Speaker 1: this week of a top Iranian official who thought he

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Speaker 1: They tracked him down and they killed him there. I

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Speaker 1: think there is such a wealth of intelligence data out

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Speaker 1: of prominence right now in Iran, you can be killed

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Speaker 1: remotely with a drone or a missile strike. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that we've ever had the technology to consistently be

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Speaker 1: killing the next man up, so to speak, who is

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Speaker 1: of top leadership in Iran, how far down the flow

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Speaker 1: chart do you go until you start to find some

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Speaker 1: people looking around saying, Hey, I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: the next target. I don't want to ascend to this

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Speaker 1: that I do and at what point does cold political

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Speaker 2: Are we getting closer to that?

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Speaker 1: Are there people that we know that have been working

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Speaker 1: with Messad Israeli intelligence, might have been working with United

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Speaker 1: the flow charts that we know that at some point,

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Speaker 1: if they get elevated to power, we have reached someone

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Speaker 1: that we can work with because they understand and have

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Speaker 1: been in some way concerted allies with the US or

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Speaker 1: Israel in the past. There was a joke going around

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Speaker 1: in Israel that the biggest issue that's going on right

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Speaker 1: now in Iran is that the only leaders left are

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Speaker 1: all working for MASAD, the Israeli intelligence agency, but they

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Speaker 1: don't know about each other, which is kind of a

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Speaker 1: dark humor idea, right that you've got three or four

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Speaker 1: top leaders in Iran, but they're all cloistered off from

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Speaker 1: each other, and they don't know that they've all been

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Speaker 1: sharing intel with Israel, and so we're trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to reconcile that. That's dark humor, but I

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Speaker 1: do think it gets at the larger question, which is

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Speaker 1: a significant one of at what point do we feel

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Speaker 1: like we've got a leader that we can deal with.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. Whoever emerges as a leader in

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Speaker 1: Iran knows that at any moment they could be killed

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Speaker 1: because Israel is going to know everything about them and

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Speaker 1: everything about their movements. So at some point, and this

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Speaker 1: is me being a little bit more optimistic maybe than

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Speaker 1: buck is, I think we're going to find someone like

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Speaker 1: a Delsi Rodriguez who is working well as the leader

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Speaker 1: of Venezuela right now, that will be a form of partner.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I'm somewhat optimistic, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are not talking about this. Look at the

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Speaker 1: comments that are coming out of Katar, look at the

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Speaker 1: comments coming out of Saudi Arabia, look at the comments

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Speaker 1: coming out from other Middle Eastern countries. None of them

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Speaker 1: are rising up yet in favor of Iran in any respect.

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Speaker 1: In fact, everything they're doing is condemning the overall Iranian government.

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Speaker 1: I said before, yes, Russia may be providing some intel,

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Speaker 1: but to who and how valuable is that? We don't

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Speaker 1: know about locations of American troops. China has done nothing,

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Speaker 1: and President Trump is raising as a pretty significant issue. Hey,

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Speaker 1: everybody should be trying to help us right now. This

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Speaker 1: is a post that Donald Trump made just in the

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Speaker 1: last few hours. Without the USA, NATO's a paper tiger.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want to join the fight to stop a

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Speaker 1: nuclear power to Iran. Now that the fight is militarily

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Speaker 1: won with very little danger for them, they complain about

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Speaker 1: the high oil prices they're forced to pay, but don't

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Speaker 1: want to help open the Strait of hor moves, a

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Speaker 1: simple military maneuver that is the single reason for the

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Speaker 1: high oil prices. So easy for them to do with

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Speaker 1: so little risk.

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Speaker 2: Cowards. And we will.

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Speaker 1: Remember President Donald Jay Trump. We will remember, indeed, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of you will remember that I went over

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Speaker 1: to Israel back in December of twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 1: I toured the country during a relatively momentary ceasefire, and

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Speaker 1: I was able to see the work that the International

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Speaker 1: Fellowship of Christians and Jews does. This is a group

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Speaker 1: that is not that is not political in nature. They

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Speaker 1: are building bomb shelters, They are providing security to vehicles

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Speaker 1: for people who are first responders. They are creating hospitals

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Speaker 1: that are underground so that people can be taken care

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Speaker 1: of in a time of danger, and they are helping

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Speaker 1: to feed and clothe people who are poor and struggling

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Speaker 1: in Israel in a time of war. And we talked

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Speaker 1: about good versus evil and the significance of recognizing good

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Speaker 1: versus evil. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is

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Speaker 1: fundamentally on the side of good, and they are fighting

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Speaker 1: against those who would foment evil. If you want to

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Speaker 1: join me and you want to join Buck in donating,

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Speaker 1: you can donate by calling eight eight eight four eight

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Speaker 1: eight IFCJ again, bomb shelters, hospitals that are underground, things

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Speaker 1: that help Israelis in the Holy Land. You can also

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Speaker 1: go online at IFCJ dot org. We know the organization,

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Speaker 1: we trust the work. The website again IFCJ dot org.

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Speaker 1: Peek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast, a new episode every Sunday. Find

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Speaker 1: it on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. All Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of serious talk. We'll get to some

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Speaker 1: of your calls. Katie Miller's going to join us at

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Speaker 1: the top of the next hour, but yesterday. I was

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Speaker 1: quizzing buck on where High Point University was located, and

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Speaker 1: he had no idea. I knew it was in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Shortly thereafter, I'm sorry, Wisconsin Badger fans. High Point pulled

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Speaker 1: off the guest upset of the first day of the

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Speaker 1: n c doua A tournament. And if you want to

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Speaker 1: smile a bit, these were the student uh broadcasters on

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Speaker 1: the campus radio station as High.

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Speaker 2: Point won the game.

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Speaker 1: This is what joy sounds like if you're a college

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Speaker 1: kid and your team is about to win a big game.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Cannerson.

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Speaker 8: Come back.

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Speaker 2: In circles, tauntson coptain, shoot.

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Speaker 9: Turn it out, it takes it in down nine seconds, boys,

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Speaker 9: Watson inside time six seconds.

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Speaker 2: That point they launched.

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Speaker 9: Down court on the class slipper.

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Speaker 2: It's as the novella story on co first time mist

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Speaker 2: on Point reaks through where we'll see you around two

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Speaker 2: line of failing.

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Speaker 1: That is I'm sorry, Wisconsin fans, but that was high

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Speaker 1: Point University one point upset win yesterday over Wisconsin, and

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Speaker 1: there is much glee, at least at High Point University.

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Speaker 1: We got a bunch of people who want to weigh

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Speaker 1: in variety of different topics out there. Let's take some

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Speaker 1: of your calls. Uh, let's see uh Daniel in Well

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Speaker 1: is this is this the caller producer Greg that we

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Speaker 1: had before?

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Speaker 2: Or is this somewhat different?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to Daniel in a sec Rick in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina?

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Speaker 2: First, Rick, what you got for us? Rick? You got?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got us? H good work by Rick there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go back up to the top. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Greg and Iowa. Greg, what you got for us?

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Speaker 8: You're talking you're talking earlier about uh Iran is still

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Speaker 8: selling oil?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 9: Why I mean.

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Speaker 8: Why are they being allowed to sell oil? Why are

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Speaker 8: we not stopping that?

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Speaker 1: Well, because I think the oil and gas idea so

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Speaker 1: far has been that if we curtail Iran's production of

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Speaker 1: oil and gas, the overall price of oil and gas

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Speaker 1: will increase substantially.

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Speaker 8: It already has, sir, yes.

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Speaker 2: But it will go up even more.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 2: Do you want oil and gas prices to go up

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Speaker 2: even more? No?

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Speaker 8: But that's that's I was talking to your producer.

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Speaker 1: So do you want to seize car Island? What would

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Speaker 1: you what would you do if you were commander in chief?

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Speaker 2: Right now? You're angry that the oil and gas is

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Speaker 2: still going, So should we seize it? What should we do?

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Speaker 8: Personally? I wouldn't have started the war.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what is your take?

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Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have started the war, but you're angry

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Speaker 1: that the oil and gas from Iran is still going?

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Speaker 2: So what is your take?

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm a I'm a Trump voter and I listened

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Speaker 8: to your show all the time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm asking you for what your take is.

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Speaker 1: So you don't want the oil and gas to go,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have started the war in Iran? What would

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Speaker 1: you do now? What is your perspective? What would you

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Speaker 1: do if you were commander in chief today sitting at

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Speaker 1: the Resolute desk?

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Speaker 8: That that is the that is the problem. See, I

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Speaker 8: don't know, and I don't think Trump knows. How do

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Speaker 8: you how do you get out of this war?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 8: You can't put foots on the ground.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I just think it's in. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the call.

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Speaker 1: Look, have a take, That's all I would ask. Have

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Speaker 1: a take if you call in. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what that guy wanted. Look, we can end the war

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Speaker 1: at any point.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: It may not be a resolution that we like Buck's

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Speaker 1: mow the grass. Analogy may well be required as well,

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Speaker 1: where you have to go in every now and then

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Speaker 1: and just wipe out Iran's ability to have ballistic missiles,

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Speaker 1: to be working on nuclear weapons. We can stop bombing

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Speaker 1: at any point. It is an easy decision to shut

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Speaker 1: down this attack on Iran.

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Speaker 2: It's not difficult at all.

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Speaker 1: What is difficult is are we getting the result that

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Speaker 1: we want or are we just setting ourselves up to

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Speaker 1: have to constantly be going back in Katie Miller next,

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Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of Clay and Buck