WEBVTT - Bathrooms, Privacy and Seinfeld 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:12.720 Now really Hello, Hello, welcome, Welcome to our show, ladies 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.640 and gentlemen. My name is Jason Alexander, internationally beloved comedy 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:22.800 superstar and television icon from the nineties. And this is, uh, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.560 this is my new show. It's not mine alone. I 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.240 would be foolish to even suggest to you. I am 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.280 here with with my best friend, Mr Peter Tilden. Peter 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.560 say hello, Hello, thank you. And when I say when 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.080 I say best friend, that's probably an exaggeration of some kind. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.680 It's Peter's a good friend. You're a good friend, Pete. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.000 You're a very good friend. By the way. I love 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.479 how you three seconds into the podcast, or for any 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.120 diminished me already, or you're covering your bet because other 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.120 friends are not calling. I have other friends and I 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.840 don't want them to feel slighted. So you're you're you're 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.800 one of my top five good friends. I'm just I'm 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.560 just at such. Let me tell you how Peter and 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.360 I met. Peter was was a a talk radio guy 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.160 here in Los Angeles, and uh, I was a guest 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:12.360 on the show. I was probably I think it was 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.920 probably the second year of Seinfeld and we had such 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:16.559 a good time on the air that by the time 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.800 we ended the program, Peter said, Hey, do you wanna 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.040 you wanna go grab breakfast? And I went, you know 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.840 what I kind of do, and you what happened. I 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.680 became one of his top five friends. That's right. During 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:31.160 that breakfast you went from from really zero, you moved 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.680 right up. It was amazing. By the way, gives you 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.880 some indication how quickly case Lit jettison a friend from 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:42.720 the top finals, or or some indication that I only 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:47.320 had three on the list. All right, so let's get serious. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.360 So the premise of our show, Ladies and Gentlemen, uh, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.520 we talked about on this show the things that annoying us, 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.160 that make us crazy or that or that baffle us, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:58.960 things that we hear it. And what do we say, Peter, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.200 We say, really, really, that can't be because I think 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.080 it's right. Things we don't understand, things that annoy Uce 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:12.120 and I remembered so clearly the other day because I 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.280 was in I was at the airport getting ready, and 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.040 I'm in the I'm in the restroom. I'm in the 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.640 public restroom, and I remember as I go in, I'm 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.639 looking at this thing and I'm giggling because I remember 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.560 Jerry Seinfeld, my old my old buddy, my old boss, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.600 does a routine about why is it in these restrooms 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.079 that the door on the stall doesn't go all the 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.160 way down to the floor? What is that all about? 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.160 And he talks to he I don't remember his bit exactly, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.200 but it's it's why why do we need the little 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.280 viewing window at the bottom to see your sad, pathetic 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.000 pants and your forlorn shoes? And you know, he just 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.520 does this whole thing, and I'm in there and I'm going, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.680 you know, he's absolutely right. He's absolutely right, because I'm 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.040 sitting in there and I can see people. I can 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.959 see through the cracks of the doors. I see under 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.800 the window. I see people stop there staring in. People 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.760 are knocking. Why are they? Why are they knocking if 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.360 there's a window at the bottom, why are they? Like 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.680 that's what it's for? Why is it? Why? Where is 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.800 my privacy? Why can't I have in a public restaurant? 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.639 Why can't I have a little bit of privacy? Why 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.840 can't this be my area? Peter? Why have I know? Privacy? 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.480 Privacy may just be an illusion because in the bathroom 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.520 they pipe in the little music, they put a door. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.400 That's two thirds of the door is up, one third's missing. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.519 You got cracks in the side. I mean when you're 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.360 sitting on the toilet and you can count people to 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.440 see people walking by, that's not a whole lot of privacy. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.200 And then you start realizing in our houses all of 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.320 the interconnected crap that we buy, the smart devices, we 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.680 point cameras at ourselves, we put listening devices in room ourselves. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.120 We're looking at our neighbor's camera, which is surveilling, and 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.160 we seem to be okay with that. As we buy 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.200 more products, we're going to find all about the the 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.480 illusion of privacy in our home and on the internet. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.640 But first we have to start with the bathroom to 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:57.280 sign fell leading of why oh why does the bathroom 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.400 door not go to the floor. So joining us now 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.920 is they were acted an award winning bathroom designer and 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.360 the president say what now, the President? There is an award? 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.680 Is an award? I can't get an Emmy, and this 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:21.440 guy's picking up awards for tiling. Good. So, Jason, I'm excited. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.400 I can tell. I can tell you're excited. You're all 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.120 a tingle. I can feel. It is such an ass 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.200 um Chad Coufman's with listening, owner of the restroom company. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:35.279 What an intro? Chad signs, coming on, I'm happy to 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.120 be here. Wait wait, wait, before before he asks this question, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.560 I just gotta ask. I gotta ask in fifty words 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.880 or less. You're a young man. Your whole life is 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.800 of you. How the hell did you go down this 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.080 road that you're you're you're building toilets? What? What? What? 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.680 What happened? Fifty words or less? Give it the abridged version. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.280 All right, my father this was my father's idea. So 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.000 I was born in Reenwich, Connecticut, and my dad was 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.000 a custom homebuilder, and then he got this crazy idea 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:10.039 that he wanted to build restrooms for public parks. Keep going, okay, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.520 how many We're almost there? Short. My life is going 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.920 down the toilet and here I am. So that's that, son, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:24.200 We've built an empire. Here I need you. Did you 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.240 build it? I inherited it from my dad, sister and 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.359 my sister and I run it. How great would that 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.800 be if your parents had something you can inherit it 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.200 was my parents had left me anything, it would have 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.080 been great. Anything. Uh you know what I heard it? 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.400 Chad and Security and anxiety and heart disease. That's where 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.720 my parents left me and probably prostrates stuck too. So 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:50.839 thanks thanks to Chad. Here's some statistics that concern you. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.960 Of office workers excited having to use the bathroom as 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.799 a prime reason they're stressed about returning to the office 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:06.240 because of the pandemic. Don't say they're uncomfortable going number 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.279 two and a stranger in non environment, and three and 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:13.640 ten are little pishy and sixties six of American workers 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.480 admit to holding it in to avoid using their workplace restroom. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.640 You're not doing a good enough job, obviously. Let me 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.520 tell you I hold it in at a friend's house. Peter, 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.400 you would, Peter, you've been coming to my house for 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.800 thirty years. I don't think you've ever gone number two 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.880 in my house. Have You don't break my confidence? What 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.080 I do is I eat cheese and rice before it comes. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.120 Someone bound up and just make sure I try and 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:37.960 time it all right? Do we want to get the answer? 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.920 Do we want? Here's the really? Not really? Here's the reason, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.479 thank god, why we called Chad. This is the big answer, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:48.280 the reason the bathroom stole door does not go all 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.479 the way down to the floor is hit it, Chad. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.720 So they could clean it well, they can clean clean 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.680 water floor because no one likes well. Certain certain areas 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.800 they take a hose and they hose it down, and 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.040 then certain areas they mop right, and then you can't 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.760 mop underneath because there's something that goes to the floor. Right. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.920 So this is not for our protection our privacy. This 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.000 is so the janet. This is so the guy can 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.040 come in with a bucket of water, soapy water and 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.920 just flash it across the floor, goes down the drain 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.000 and it saves you time. And boy, what a cleaning 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.040 technique that is. And they made better airflow, right, there's 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.920 better airflow. We don't want. We don't want air flow. 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.720 Let me tell you something, Mr award winner, Hey, Mr 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.400 award winner. If I'm install one, I don't need airflow 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:49.320 from stall three. But Jason, the key to pollution is delution, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:54.560 my friend, remember my god, Hey, Mr award winner. They 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:59.120 have a thing called event. The technical term is fart 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:04.520 fan part fans. Sure there we go alright, speaking that, Peter, 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.520 let me say we got the answer. Let's so it's 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:16.960 they don't go to the floor. So sometime with them up, 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:22.320 you do what can save three minutes cleaning the bathroom, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.720 and to that we say the name of the show. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:31.960 Really no, really, yeah, listen, nobody wants that job. That 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.160 man should have. That man should have a pension, That 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.720 man should have healthcare. That man or woman that doesn't 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.560 have to be that person should have benefits like like 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.760 presidents don't have. I think without that person we would 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.120 all be very very unhappy. But really, is it that 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.680 big a deal to open the door and slash a 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.520 little more with the thing study that was done this 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.240 this one is really worrisome because with COVID you didn't 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.280 want to touch stuff, and a lot of bathrooms have handblowers. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.440 What I didn't allignes is every time a little list 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.479 toilet is flushed, it aerosolizes a fine mist of microbes. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:14.280 This vehicle cloud can disperse over Stoud Harvard, and when 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.599 someone flushes, it spreads through the air, and when it 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.880 comes in contact with a hand dryer, the colony multiplies. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:27.640 So basically, you're taking your average small fecal colony and 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.480 you're saying, let's explode this sucker. Why are we using 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.080 heated dryers if we know this hand dryers, if we 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.760 know that, we're spreading that that way? Is this a 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:45.960 question for me? I comment, Wow, this is a this 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.400 is going to be deep. It was. It's literally because 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.320 of vandalism. If you're in a in a restaurant, you 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.760 can have paper towels, right because the kids that are 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.439 thinking of any possible way to vandalize this public restroom, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.800 why would you want to? I don't know, got it. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.200 They'll light They'll take their lighter and they'll just set 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:08.040 it on fire. So what's the alternative? A hand dryer? 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:14.080 Really some of the new technology like Dyson. I use 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.920 a Dyson hand dryer. It actually where it sucks in 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:21.360 the bathroom air has heap of filters. Okay, all right, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.319 I just wanted to know that from me out, I'm 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.000 trying to help the public health. One last question, one 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.080 last question for you, because I know that you probably 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.679 are joking aside, do a lot of metrics and analysis 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.840 to build your things. What is it about people trashing 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.960 Westerns like you said, lighting on fire? I worked at 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.000 a radio station this with people I know, and on 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.679 on Monday morning when you come in, it looks like 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.840 they gave a series of gibbons acid micro dose and 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.439 let them loosen the bathrooms. There's stuff everywhere, toilets or stuff. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.200 Things are carved, People have card messages into the toilet lid. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.520 I mean, what's going on in there that people have 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.640 to relieve their anxiety by by ruining a restroom. They 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.319 know they've got to come back in there. By the way, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.640 you're gonna use it again. I don't know. It's maybe 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.160 like the analogy of a rental car, right, it's it's 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.200 not my car, it's not my bathroom. I don't, I don't, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.600 I don't, but I don't care about what it looks 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.520 like after I leave that facility. Yeah. By the way, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.800 can I just say I've been silent for a while 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.280 because I threw up in my mouth a little on 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:26.920 fecal cloud. That was Hey, Chad, seriously, thank you so 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.880 much for being here. You are such a good sport. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.360 You allot us play with you. You took it in 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.920 the shorts for your whole industry, and congratulations on your reward. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.920 And by the way, people should know you are quite 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.360 the philanthropist. You offered the city of San Francisco a 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.280 free public toilet, which is uh, they we're gonna put 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.080 up a public restroom for one point seven million dollars. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.199 So you got it for free. You saved them one 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.559 point seven million dollars. The taxpayers of San Francisco should 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:55.080 all be saying, my god, let's say thank you, Chad Kaufman, Jason, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.600 thank you for making me laugh for so many years. Really, no, man, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.040 it was like one of my favorite shows. Really it was. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:09.599 It was it was our pleasure second second about me anything, anything. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:16.720 It was a pleasure to second. Take care the other reasons. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.880 The bathroom stall doesn't go to the floor. It's more 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.760 affordable to scourge his bad behavior. It can't be used 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.360 as an escape root, it keeps lines moving, and as 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.240 seen in the Stall episode twelve, season five, as Seinfeld, 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:37.480 toilet paper can be shared. All right, I should explain 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.120 that was our producer, David Guggenheim from no one known 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.800 as Googleheim, who apparently wants airtime. Who's going to jump 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.680 in if he feels the need to explain, correct or 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.640 clarify things as the show goes on. So thank you, David. Hi, Bob, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:56.480 mother must be so proud. So we look at we 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.920 are learning. We are learning. This is not just an 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.000 entertainment show. In fact, I don't think this is an entertainment. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:09.000 But I'm maintaining you disagree in publicly Bubba glass room 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.640 or public, but when I go home, I got privacy. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.640 Don't punch, don't punch it, don't punch a hole in it. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.320 Why do I bother with you? The whole thing that 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.520 you missed was at the bathrooms. We sacrifice and make 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.680 ourselves believe there's privacy in the bathroom. And and yes, 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.280 there is an illusion of privacy in your home also, Jason, 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:33.120 an illusion, Jason. What people don't realize I think, I 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.040 think is that Amazon and these companies that are listening 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.880 in and selling us these products. And by the way, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.400 I should say motion detectors, cameras, smart light, so the 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.080 garage door openers which know when you come in and 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.640 when you leave, blenders, wrist bands, um fitbits, toothbrushes, pet feeders, 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.760 all the stuff that's in lenders, anything that's interconnected, it's 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.360 smart and it's a smart item talks to interconnected blender. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:01.040 What a blender? By the way, everything is almost interconnected. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.640 But you know what they're calling Amazon not a retail company, 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.720 but the reason that they want to buy I Robot, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.920 the robot vacuum company, for instance, is that they happen 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.920 to be a surveillance company and the reason they're buying 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.959 an I robot. So now they know the dimensions on 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.720 the inside of your house. So they're getting as much 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.840 as they can from your health information, all of your information, 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.360 and it just feeds it all out there in like 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.680 a fire hose of information that you were willingly giving out. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.720 Your part of that. You're saying, Okay, for the convenience, 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.600 I'm willing to do it. But I don't know that 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.240 we we realize just how much information we're giving up. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.640 I want to say for the record, this is why 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:43.080 I have my own vacuum. I I have a vacuum. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.400 And I'll tell you something else. I know where you're 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.920 gonna go. You're gonna go. You'd a vacuum. You've got 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.200 a person of vacuums. I'm vacuum. I am a sweeper 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.120 and a vacuum. So Amazon, you do not know the 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.320 dimensions in my house. You don't know where the safe 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:06.320 room is. You don't know where the safe is man, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.720 and I may surprise you, do you know why I 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.720 will never get an eye robot. And my wife's birthday 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.360 is coming up, and she said I would really like 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.040 she wanted a bid day, which I don't I don't know, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.680 I don't know if they're smart to days, but she 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.400 wants something a couple of things, but she wants an 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.280 I robot type thing, and you know I won't get one. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.040 Tell me because we have a dog. These people went 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.800 to bed one night and the thing was cleaning and 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.120 the dog had had diarrhea, and the eye robot does 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.840 not know that, so it's not trying. They woke up 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:42.400 their entire every inch of their house was it went 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.400 through there and spread it everywhere. So that's not that's 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.400 my reason. I don't care anyone who says that this 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:54.360 podcast is not chock full of information. That's fantastic. So 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.000 if you have a dog, you don't want to a 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.760 vacuum robot in k there's a mishap that's that was 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.000 more valuable than why the door doesn't go down to 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.920 the floor. We are every segment of this show. The 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.360 information level is more impactful and more important, more relevant. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.200 WHOA WHOA, guys, hang on oh J that music needs 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.360 We're not just hearing from producer Google Heim. We now 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.600 have producer Laurie Crimmy wang In or as we call 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.680 her queen critiqua, yes, your highness, what do we do wrong? 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.280 Hang on stop? Amazon is not the only one that 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:34.200 does this. And I have a few packages arriving today, 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.440 and if they do not get here, there is going 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:44.640 to be a problem. Alright, Amazon, Google, Facebook, TikTok, they're 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:49.200 all surveillance gathering. I didn't mean to pick out just 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.280 just Amazon, and I don't want to piss off Bezos. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.960 Thank you. I'm beginning to think it's possible that Jeff 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:59.000 Bezos nos, I've fortrayed him twice in a somewhat unflattering 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.400 white I mean, I got asked by Jon Stewart and 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:10.760 uh and Jimmy Kimmels separately to do bits where I so. Uh. 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.400 The Kimmel bit was we did Bezos the Musical, which 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.000 was actually I think destined for a Broadway future, but 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.760 again perhaps not not exactly the way Jeff would like 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:37.960 to see himself portrayed in the public. So, Jason, as 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.359 we're doing this episode which it starts out with bathroom 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.760 privacy and goes to home privacy. And now I know 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.520 that I'm sitting right here, I can follow the show. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.879 I follow the program. Peter's not a children's book. I 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.320 don't need to have you know, reintroduced every moment. If 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.560 I have followed the plot, go ahead, all right, mr, 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.520 follow the plot, Jason. If you're you're ahead of me, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.000 I guess you realize you're nothing more than content in 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.320 a skin suit. Really, it's averaging on my resume and 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:11.159 special skills. All those quizzes about find out your elf 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.000 name or find out your porn name, when you put 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.199 in first street and your first pet, they're basically just 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.399 fishing for all of your log in information. So to 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.480 quote George Costanza, is that wrong? Should I not have 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:30.840 done that? So? So yeah, okay, I'm I'm hearing. I'm 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.119 picking up what you're putting down. So in a bigger 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.800 issue as far as privacy, I wanted to get on 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:39.399 an ethical hacker. We got an ethical hacker. An ethical hacker. 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.080 There's white hat, there's black hat, there's formerly black hat, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.800 there's gray hat, there's green hat, there's red hat. The 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.480 hell are youtub exactly? So white hat hacker has the 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.919 hacking skills, came over, possibly from the dark side, but 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.600 is now employed in Russell, employed by movie studios and countries. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.919 Ralph helped to help the certain rough has been to 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:03.159 discern Ralph hacker. You got a last name or is 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:10.439 it just Amia? I'm sorry, Ralph Comendia Ecamendia. Oh my gosh, 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.159 let's move. Let's go to how I got that information out? 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.080 You say, I've been trying to give it for five 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.560 freaking minutes. Ralph Ecamendia is an ethical hacker, and I 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.280 wanted to find out for us. As far as privacy 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:30.160 has that ship sailed. Privacy is kind of an illusion 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.720 when it comes to to the cyber world in the 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.920 sense that we have never really defined what that means 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.320 in a technical or digital form. We have kind of 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.480 defined it to some degree in the physical world. I 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.359 joke around and say, well, why do we have doors 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.879 in the bathroom. We're not doing anything wrong, but we 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.679 all have to go poop, don't we. So it really is, uh, 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.120 it's the same. You know, we have not defined that 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.240 in the digital realm. We have not said, okay, well 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.280 this is what we feel should be private across the words. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.320 Should your name be private? Should your so security number 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.440 be private? Should your password be private? Well, the truth 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.679 is that's kind of a personal choice, right we share passwords. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.120 Netflix has a big problem with that these days, right, 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.520 we share email addresses, we share all kinds of information 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.640 that we share. So the truth is we've never really 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.359 defined it. So it's never really existed in the same 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.680 sense that we would define it in the physical realm. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.520 Well we have, I mean, is anybody we've kind of 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.439 defined it? Let me, let's prove something here, Jason. Passwords. 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.000 Now they have all of this stuff where it's the 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.000 not only password, you're gonna second form of I bet 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.280 you have bad password, but you have fantastic passwords. I 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.760 am fantastic. How do you remember them? How do you remember? All? Right, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.639 I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something, but I'm not 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.600 going to give away. Let's do it after. Let's let's 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.480 hear what Ralph, what do you have to say about passwords? 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.320 We are, by the way, heading into a no password 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.760 world in the future. There are enough things in the 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.560 technology we use that The truth is, you can identify 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.800 a person without a password, facial recognition, you know, your 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.720 thumb print. Uh, there's actually all kinds of hardware specifics 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:14.159 in your laptop end or phone that actually could you know, 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.320 tell the you know the site or whatever you will, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:23.800 um that it's you so we are headed towards a catastrophe. 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.800 That's a catastrophe if you're not seen. Mission impossible. A 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.400 guy puts on my rubber face, he gets my thumb 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.440 print off a piece of Scotch tape. I don't want 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.600 any of that. I've got passwords. And let me tell 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:37.480 you something. Nobody's getting past my passwords. All right, you 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.040 want to know, you want to know. I'll give you 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.919 a hint to my system. Anything I'm using a password 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:48.800 on reminds me of either a song or a Shakespearean quote, 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:53.639 or something I've said in my life, and I used 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:58.440 the quote and I somehow maybe reduce it in some 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.600 way to be so, you'd have to know the way 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.359 my brain thinks, and about that thing, what connections I 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.399 make to that side. And no one's getting past my passwords. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:13.080 My wife occasionally gets past my passage. And by the way, 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.880 I'm laughing because she said, nobody's getting because no, you'd 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.960 have to know how I think. Now, who would possibly 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.120 know who I think? Other than I don't know? Maybe 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.120 someone who knows and monitors every click of your keyboard, 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.680 that sees everything you order, that ever sees every show 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:28.360 you watch, It knows every time you dim the lights, 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.000 that knows every time you leave your house that has 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.399 a navigation on you. Who would know that? You know, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.399 I'm gonna put out my own eyes at the end 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.240 of this episode this is you are the voice of 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.639 Doom and Gloom. I would like to believe that I 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:44.120 could take a shower or a shave without having telecasts 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.800 of the world. You know that I like pizza with 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.399 with anchovies. You you're being viewed by people in the shower. 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.000 Don't think it's gonna be a problem, not gonna be 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.119 a huge search. I don't think that's good. No one 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:59.639 wants to see. You're absolutely right, because I've seen it 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:01.560 and and I'll never get that image out of my 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:06.199 own eyes. So you're right, let's let's let's live. Not 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.800 even not even in the amagin of raph. We give 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.600 out so much personal information online, sharing passwords and stuff 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.120 because we haven't been hacked yet. Are we delusional as 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.360 far as our safety online and privacy? Are we basically 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.120