WEBVTT - Russia Mostly 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.120 Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:25.279 Radio Together Everything So don't don't don't, Oh Boys podcast 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:31.920 sure is from what I heard, legally distinct from a 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.920 TV show. The pods are out. I mean they're they're 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:40.680 legally distinct, sure, but also technically very distinct in and 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.400 of itself, in that it's an audio medium and not 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.920 visual at all. I love it. I love audio meetings mediums. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.440 I love mediums. I like just going and talking to 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.680 mediums and I do too. Yeah, talk about past lives 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.040 and things like that. Past lives also, it's a good um, guys, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.760 I have. If we're talking past lives, everyone's gonna kill 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.760 me online. But yes, I have talked to a psychic 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.520 who told me we can cut it out. You can. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:14.440 There's some Cody already knows this or you should. Was 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.800 that I saved a lot of Jewish people in World 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:18.720 War two. I like, say, I hid people and like 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.280 my basement, and I was like, yeah, that checks out. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:28.600 But then, um, the psychic also told me that I 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.520 was a dolphin and I died really violently and that's 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.280 why I have an aversion to water, and I do have. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.360 I am a little afraid of the ocean, but don't 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.039 all dolphins die in the ocean. I am choosing to 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.840 believe that your past life was a dolphin who helped 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.760 rescue Jewish people. I think I think that that's a 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:55.000 story worth telling. And please everybody on Reddit especially, keep 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.200 your opinions about me on going to see a fucking 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:06.520 psychic who gives a shoe yourself like motherfucking funny fun diversion. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.520 Sometimes it's it's it's fine, it's and jokes on you 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.360 when you come back as an aunt. Motherfucker. Okay, and 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:20.520 that also saves people during some sort of genocideide sort 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:26.240 of genocide. The Schindler Oscar Schindler of ants. Yeah, you know, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.480 I save much more munch of money for not going 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.800 to a psychic. This one actually is a sliding scale 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:37.400 that you pay afterwards. So so if you didn't like 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.160 what they said, she just really wanted it to be 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.959 affordable for whomever wanted her services. So and you don't 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.359 pay till afterwards. I was poor. If she tells you 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.640 your past life was Heinrich Hindler, you can be like, well, 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:56.480 I'm not paying for this out, You're not taking my money, Cody. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.560 She also said that you're my twin, So that's cool 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.720 that it's true. Honestly, there's a lot going on here 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:07.040 that is worth unpacking, but not for this show. There is, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.840 you know what is worth unpacking. I watched a TV 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:16.320 show that I liked pretty good recently, were it Advice Community? 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.040 Now I do that a lot, but no, the animated well, 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.640 actually this is does tie into that because the animated 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.840 Harley Quinn series, which I'm not a particular fan of 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.720 any of those comics, but one of the carry they have, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.280 the Riddler, is played by Jim Rash, who does the 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:35.120 Dean Community, and they have have the Riddler be patterned 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.600 off of the Dean from Community. It's very fun. It's good. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.920 It's good. It's a good call. Yeah. Um, he makes 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.480 such a funny Riddler. Oh he would, he would be 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.880 the perfect Riddle size that he didn't wear a Riddler 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:53.440 costume on Community at one point it's it's he's It's 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.000 it's pretty good. It's a pretty good show. I enjoyed 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.000 it a lot. If you enjoy Jim Rash and his 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.280 antics and superhero love, Jim Rash, the Oscar winning writer 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:06.600 Jim Right, check out sky High if you're familiar with 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.640 the movie, Scott, I've never seen that before and I 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.120 have not seen it. It's a so it's a it's 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.480 a superhero thing for like ten years ago, fifteen years ago, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.800 and it's a sidekick heroes school. It's like a high school. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.280 Uh yeah, this sounds right up my alley. Yeah. Like 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.320 two of the kids in the holler in it. Um. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.839 Bruce Campbell is in it. Bruce Campbell and Jim Rash together, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:36.719 Jim Rash and he really oh Russell, Kurt Russell, Kurt Russell, 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.760 Jim Rash and Bruce Campbell are in a thing together. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.360 Oh my god, Oh my god. Also, if you're a 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.000 fan of Succession, Greg from Succession is also in it. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.440 Get Out. How long ago was this man? I want 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.400 to say, like years ago. So he was like a kid, 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.039 Yeah he was, No, he was not yet New York's 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.240 most Eligi. No, I like it was. I've watched two 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.960 shows recently another so another if you watched the Expanse 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.440 Vampire Diaries. Know, if you watched the Expanse, the main 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:14.200 guy on the Expanse what's his name? But I've never 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:19.320 watched Thank you all all you expansies and Expanse heads 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.800 out there. Um, he I watched the entire first season. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:24.760 It's like, I know you from something? What are you from? 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.279 What is this? What is this? What is the actor from? 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.239 But I wouldn't look it up until the final season 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.000 or to the end of the season, because I wanted 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.640 to give myself a chance. I didn't figure it out. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.040 He's also from sky High. Um, so the Expanse and 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.560 Succession too amazing shows with great actors. I mean, I 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.679 don't know much about any of that, but the fact 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.840 that Jim Rash, Kurt Russell, and Bruce Campbell are an 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:51.880 ething together has completely changed the world for me. Kevin McDonald, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.680 they're all there. Oh, man, Cody, you're making this case. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.560 You're making a strong case, and I'm going to go 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.360 watch that for sure. But I bet neither of you 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.080 has watched Patriot yet. That's what I bet. I bet 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.159 neither of you have watched my recommendation that you're going 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.680 to love this is the time, not is that Time 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.599 killed the vibe here? Um, I've watched. I mean, I 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.279 don't normally watch new stuff, but but I'll try Patriot. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.320 I've got to try Patriot, and I gotta try Peacemaker. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.800 People keep talking about peace. I'm watching Peacemaker, and I 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.320 gotta say, so far, it's entertaining. I'm a little too 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.760 anxious and um for a lot of too much violence 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.479 right now, which is funny that I'm recommending Patriot, you know, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.960 even if. But it's really good. Um, and the intro 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.560 is so fucking good. I play it, I rewind it 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.159 over and over, and I'm trying to learn the dan 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.039 That's all I've seen, trying to learn the dance. It 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.920 always hits nice. Well, it seems like we're all having 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:57.160 a good time on TV. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.520 the world is doing just as well as I as 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.440 part of that transition. Part of my problem with Peacemaker 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.320 and TV in general right now is that I can't 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.080 get through an episode. Um, I'm feeling wound up. I 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.600 check my phone and then I'm reading something. I'm having 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:16.600 a hard time tuning out, so trying desperately in the world, Yeah, Robert, 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.840 m hmm. Let me just I'm gonna I'm gonna google 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.080 the world, and I'm gonna scroll over to the news 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:29.200 tab and I'm gonna see what's going on. Oh oh wow, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.119 there's there's actually quite a few problems happening, right, Although 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.560 this Caribbean destination was just named the best beach in 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.840 the world. That's number three. Yeah, that's not so bad, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:44.239 Is that really? I mean the article about the Ukraine 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.080 war stoking food in security is like six down. So 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.720 clearly yeah, tricks to help you think like the world's 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.840 greatest designers. Yeah, so I think things are doing important 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.920 than the best places in the world to retire something 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.160 that is good? That is it that our priorities are 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:06.720 really locked locked in? Um? Cool? Cool? I think we 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.880 figured it all out. That's the episode where do we 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:18.240 want to start at the end by everybody? So, did 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.520 you guys know that now San Diego is ranking as 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:26.320 the least affordable city to buy a house over San Francisco? Wow? 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:32.400 Really that changed quick? Also San Diego like close behind. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.880 I don't know, it was never in the top in 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.880 my head at least, so I would think that maybe 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.920 during the pandemic. Um, so I went when the fires 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.960 were really bad here, I mean again, during the pandemic 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:51.119 it's ongoing. Um, but the that lockdown here, I'll start saying, um, 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.959 when the fires were really bad, I went to San Diego, 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.680 I went to college in San Diego. So I went 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.480 there for the weekend to like escape some of the 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.800 smoke because you couldn't go outside. Um in l A. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.680 And the hotel was filled with people from San Francisco. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.600 So maybe there's something about them like wanting to stay 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.040 in California, but like being fed up. I mean, it's interesting. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.760 Obviously this is anecdotal, Like all people who live in California. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.440 I thought slightly more often about San Diego than I 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.200 do about did about Sacramento, and I never thought about sacraments. Look, 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.280 I gotta tell you that I do not recommend moving 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.280 to San Diego. I lived in San Diego. Is very 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.120 depressed in San Diego. Um, I dropped out of school 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.000 for a little bit and had to like muscle build 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.400 up the courage to go back because I hated living 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.199 in San Diego. Yeah, I mean it's everyone calls America's 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.680 hell basket, but it's yeah, it's just attracts all these 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.960 I'm sorry if you're from there's lots of lovely people 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.600 in the horrible place. It's there's there's no there's really 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.480 no one good. They're much like Russia, not a good person. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:02.880 Like the violent protests in Portland and like San Diego, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:12.520 so fucking violent, scumming villainy. The film surges above the waterline, beautile, tallantiful, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.560 but you guys, taco wonderful Mexican food, and it is 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.640 it is beautiful. It's just very nice people that I 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.160 don't want to hang out with. I just felt lonely 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.400 and isolated and like I couldn't find friends because there 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.240 was either like rich conservatives or a bunch of very 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.319 drunk frat boys. It was like, speaking of well, it 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.480 sounds like college your experience, It's like it's not San Diego. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.000 It's like, oh, you just didn't like well, I didn't 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.000 like college in San Diego, and I think that I 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.560 would have enjoyed college at Berkeley. But I know I 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.319 needed to move to the other end of the state 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.280 to get away from my family therapy. It's news time. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.880 I was about to go. This is this is now 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.200 the Ship Talking San Diego podcast. I mean, we've covered 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:03.480 my my dicey, my dicey past lives, given back to Mexico. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.760 I had the worst break I had my worst breakup 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.319 of my life in San Diego with a drunk frat boy. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.320 See there you go. They're drawn to it, and there's 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.920 other people. I just I've been saying for years California 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.440 should end it to Mecula and we should have a 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.120 thirty mile d m Z where nothing is allowed to live. No, 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.600 I feel bad. You can just boil the earth to 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.720 keep San Diego away. So we keep Temecula though, because 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.200 what is Temecula done well? Temecula has turned into a 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.240 giant d m Z where no life is allowed to 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:38.360 thrive in order to protect us from San Diego. You guys, 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:44.200 I just thought my partners from San Diego, all right, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.760 she got a friend and say it's fine. Just throwing 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.400 that out there. Honestly, the only problem with San Diego 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.080 is you've got to deal with border patrol way more often. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.600 You're gonna want to deal with border patrol. Horrible frat boys, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.720 great tacos like you need to talk about the news. Yeah, 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.200 the new we're really nailing it so far. This wee 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:07.679 so earlier today in the news, earlier day in the news. Uh, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:13.880 bipartisan effort to keep the daylight savings time all year round, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:19.480 so the Sate. That's amazing. It's amazing the things that 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.720 we can agree on questions, daylight savings is what we're 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.720 in now. We just we just sprang forward into daylight savings. Yeah. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.160 I believe we are currently in because I just do 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.240 not ever need it to switch back. That's the one. Like, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.120 let's not do this bullshit switch. This is the good one, right, 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.960 we all agree this is the good one. Um, this 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.080 is allegedly the good one, depending on where you live 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.040 and what time of year it is. So I support 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:53.000 um the national policy uh benefiting me individually and like this, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.920 Um yeah, it's I don't know. I don't even have 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.840 like strong feelings about daylight savings. I don't I know 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.080 that like it bothers people twice a year, um, for 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.840 like a day. It's just unnecessary. And I do resent 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:13.080 losing um an hour of daylight when your days are 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.800 naturally getting shorter, and for a lot of people that 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:21.120 work all day, that is really detrimental to their mental health, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.920 UM and productivity. And don't like the sun going down 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.439 at four or five PM. I don't get me wrong. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.000 So that's the point. Well, yeah, but now you're gonna 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.720 have like you're gonna have kids, a lot of kids 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.960 like going to school, like when it's like dark for 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.360 two hours. Yeah, them their kids. It gives a ship. Interesting, Yeah, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.560 that's my attitude. Well, I mean the solution is just 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.120 like have school start later, which is if the sun 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.439 goes down earlier, that kids don't go to school. Now anyway, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.120 it's less heat though, less heat, less air conditioning needed, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:55.520 more breezy, So there's a positive there. Wait, what I 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.800 was saying, If the sun goes down earlier in the 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.680 day and you don't, then it gets cooler earlier in 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.480 the day, and then you're sure. But that has nothing 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.920 to do with how we quantify time and standard No, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.240 but I was I was like one of the few 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.760 people was like, oh, no, the sun is going to 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.160 be out later, which means it's going to be hotter 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:21.160 in my home. It should never be dark before seven pm. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.440 And whatever violence we have to do on an international 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.760 scale to ensure that this is the way everyone lives 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:32.120 is worth it. M that's my Robert. I agree with you, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:37.040 maybe not completely, but I agree with you. Um okay, fine, uh. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.360 I guess I'm alone in my principles of not caring. 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.520 But that's just the way it is. So speaking of 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:49.080 you know, San Diego, here's the sponsors of the show, 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.640 which are the San Diego real estate industry. San Diego, 0:14:52.840 --> 0:15:07.440 apparently you can't get a house here. Now together, you're back, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.280 and uh, let's talk about no fly zones. Do you 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.440 guys want to discuss this. We're done praising the Senate 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.840 for taking the time to pass by partisan Honestly, it's 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.720 a little bit like if you've ever had a friend 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.560 who's like you care about them, but their alcoholism is 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.600 leading them to risk other people's lives by constantly driving drunk, 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.600 and like one time they take a cab home instead 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.640 of like driving hammered home from a party, and you're like, well, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.000 I'm glad they did that, but also clearly this they're 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.040 going to drive drunk again, like the problem has not 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.200 been So that's how that's how I feel about the 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.000 Senate passing this, where it's like, yeah, well, I'm glad 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.440 you guys decided to do one thing, but I feel 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.200 like you're going to hit four kids crossing an intersection 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.760 because you get drunk at eleven thirty in the morning. Yeah, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:01.360 So I my feeling very similar. I feel oh good 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.360 that I mean to me, it's a thing that I 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.920 would I think is good and would like to see happen, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.720 but also that that's the thing we're doing. What where 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.880 you can agree on this is where we come together. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.120 Ship is usually like let's give the military hunter billions 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.520 more dollars or something like that. Um I do. I 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.600 will say, I do resent the fact that if you're 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.720 so like you're get you're getting your day like savings. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.080 Now right, we're not changing the clocks anymore. I think 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.640 that is kind of an insult to everybody who had 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.640 to change their clocks before. Now that's right, really, so 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.400 we should keep it going because other people had to before. Now, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.880 so we here's change it. Here's the rule, Cody. I 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.160 think anyone under eighteen after we make the change never 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.480 allowed to eat oranges. Okay, well, and I think that 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.000 we need to also talk about we're not allowed to 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.000 um to talk about how we used to eat oranges 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.920 or um that there was ever a different time zone, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.119 because I think that might make people feel bad in 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.800 some way, you know, and we don't want anybody feel 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.280 bad about that. I do want them to feel bad. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.520 I want to be filled with eternal rage at us 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.800 for the fact that we get oranges. I want to 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.080 just like sit on my front porch as children go 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:25.440 by in school buses eating oranges and mocking them. Um. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.119 But you know, this is the beauty of democracy. We 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.560 can have different opinions on these things. I also have 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.440 to I'm sorry. The bill, the actual bill is called 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:42.399 the Sunshine Protection Act, which sounds like an environmental bill, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:46.120 like it sounds like something about energy and like preservation 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.719 or something. It's very like. I mean, I don't think 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.399 they did it to like trick people, but it's just 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.080 because that wouldn't get passed. But no, it's a funny name. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.400 So I don't know. I want to talk about like 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.160 no fly zones, yeah, just and like part of it. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:06.080 I don't know. So what what what you have happening 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.560 with Ukraine? It's the thing that happens with everything. And 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.760 folks have been making this point for for week since 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.320 the war started, that like all these people who were 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.240 virology experts you know, a couple of months ago, are 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:22.480 now experts on Ukrainian politics or experts on like NATO 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.360 or whatever. Um. And yes, that's absolutely happening, and it's 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.320 very frustrating. And there's nothing that I hate more than 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.520 like fucking dilettant journalists who just kind of slide into 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.840 whatever the thing is. Like I started reporting on Ukraine 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.280 in two thousand thirteen, Um, I have not been doing 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.639 it constantly, and that's part of why I've mostly just 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:47.080 been signal boosting other people's work and and not been 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.359 kind of trying to make pronouncements about stuff. And it 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.879 very much frustrates me to see the same people who 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.560 are like coming out with half formed bullshit about COVID 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.439 restrictions based on their experience being the son of a 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.720 publishing magnate or whatever the fuck um, are now talking 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.879 shit about like what should be done in Ukraine. And 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.600 it's it's frustrating, like comprehensively um, because there's on one hand, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.080 you have these people like there was this fucking post 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.919 going around like it was iced tea or ice cube whatever, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.879 whatever ice is. The is the one who's most on 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.520 Twitter who was like, you know, if one Russian soldier 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.560 shoots one US soldier, that's it, We're gonna have a 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.679 nuclear war, which is a stupid take because guess what, 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.480 Russian soldiers and US soldiers have shot each other a 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.960 bunch of times in the recent past, as have soldiers 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.320 from multiple other nuclear powers. It happens constantly. It happens 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.520 between Pakistan and India, it happens between India and China, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.479 it happens between Russia and the United States, and nobody 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.439 starts firing nukes over some fucking yea who's and whatever 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:47.680 chunk of the world is shooting at each other because 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.640 that would be bad for all of the people who 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.880 are in charge of those countries. So number one, like 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:58.000 you have these people who who's like opinions on geopolitical 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.399 conflicts are heavily based and like the as they have 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.760 remember from movies and assume our actual realities rather than 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:07.359 like the US killed three Russian soldiers a couple of 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.200 years ago with air strikes in Syria, and you know what, 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.919 it didn't make the news in most places. Nobody fucking cared, 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:19.240 Like nobody gave a shit because that's pretty normal. Um. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.199 And so on the other end of things, you have 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.560 all these like kind of lib folks who are making 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.600 these very clear statements about like a no fly zone 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.640 you know, would be fine for this reason or fine 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.240 for that reason, and you know, sometimes we have to 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.520 risk nuclear war for this and for that, And it's 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.199 it's one of those like I'm not even I'm not 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.800 even because I I have I've talked to a lot 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.040 of people who are alive because of no fly zones 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:45.679 and other parts of the world. So I'm certainly not 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.000 like against the very concept of a no fly zone, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:50.800 but I think there's a number of reasons why it's 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.879 it's not going to be particularly effective in Ukraine, Like 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.400 even if you kind of divorce the nuclear aspect, which 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.520 is a major area which is concerned um, but even 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.359 without that, even if, like even if if Putin said tomorrow, hey, 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.119 you know what, no nukes, Like whatever happens, nobody's nobody's 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:06.760 using nukes over this if he were to like, which 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:08.560 you never would, but like if you were to say that, 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.320 I don't think that instituting a no fly zone would 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.159 have a massive impact on the amount of civilian suffering 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.840 because most of the killing of civilians, based on what 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.480 I am seeing and what I am reading from other analysts, 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.800 is being done by field artillery, which is not and 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.399 by like ballistic missiles and stuff, which I don't see. 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.159 I don't think there's any real way that a no 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.280 fly zone is going to like stop or reduce the 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.879 amount of ballistic missiles. There's different ways it could be like, 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:33.760 one of the issues is that when people talk about 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.560 a no fly zone pro or negative, they are usually 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.240 assuming that it is more of like a single fixed thing, 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.200 when there are a variety of ways in which it 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.199 could be instituted. It's like, one of the questions is, like, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:44.520 all right, if you believe that we should have a 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.480 no fly zone, should we just be stopping aircraft? Or 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.160 you try talking about stopping ballistic missiles from entering Ukrainian airspace. 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:52.879 If that is the case, how are you going to 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:56.600 do that without like actually moving in anti missile defenses 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.320 all throughout these areas where like they're bordered by Belarus 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.880 and Russia, because most of the ballistic missiles being shot 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.920 into the country are being shot in across those national borders. 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.160 And unless you're moving, you're either moving in like mobile 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.040 anti missile units that are like run by NATO troops, 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.240 which is a real big escalation, or you're gonna say, 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.439 like we're we're gonna let them fire missiles in, but 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.439 we're just gonna stop aircraft, which is again not dealing 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.120 with much of the problem. I don't tend to think 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.520 that a no fly zone is going to do much. 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.320 I get why Zelinsky, and someone in Zelinsky's position would 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.200 be like advocating for it. I certainly don't blame him 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.159 for it. He's in a pretty impossible fucking position. I 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.320 just don't think it would do anything. I think, at 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.960 least on um Our end of things here. I think 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.040 there was a moment on social media where it looked 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.880 like they were not getting very good much traction. Ukraine 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:51.080 was surprisingly holding people back, and then everyone was like, 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.280 we have to protect the skies. Like it felt to 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.040 me like a very reactive thing in the moment that 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.640 people kind of latched onto it was part of this conversation. 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.639 But like, there's just so much Russia just has so 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.080 many people on the ground. People want simple answers, and 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:11.800 people on like every side's on every like ideological side 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.320 of this. Once once simple answers want to boil things 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:18.800 down um to make like the problems and the solutions 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.439 seem simple um, and they just aren't. This is a 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:26.040 very complicated, messy war UM. And I think that if 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:28.840 you're if you're someone who is saying that, like I 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.040 support the USE, I support the United States, NATO, the EU, 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.719