Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything So don't don't don't, Oh Boys podcast
Speaker 1: sure is from what I heard, legally distinct from a
Speaker 1: TV show. The pods are out. I mean they're they're
Speaker 1: legally distinct, sure, but also technically very distinct in and
Speaker 1: of itself, in that it's an audio medium and not
Speaker 1: visual at all. I love it. I love audio meetings mediums.
Speaker 1: I love mediums. I like just going and talking to
Speaker 1: mediums and I do too. Yeah, talk about past lives
Speaker 1: and things like that. Past lives also, it's a good um, guys,
Speaker 1: I have. If we're talking past lives, everyone's gonna kill
Speaker 1: me online. But yes, I have talked to a psychic
Speaker 1: who told me we can cut it out. You can.
Speaker 1: There's some Cody already knows this or you should. Was
Speaker 1: that I saved a lot of Jewish people in World
Speaker 1: War two. I like, say, I hid people and like
Speaker 1: my basement, and I was like, yeah, that checks out.
Speaker 1: But then, um, the psychic also told me that I
Speaker 1: was a dolphin and I died really violently and that's
Speaker 1: why I have an aversion to water, and I do have.
Speaker 1: I am a little afraid of the ocean, but don't
Speaker 1: all dolphins die in the ocean. I am choosing to
Speaker 1: believe that your past life was a dolphin who helped
Speaker 1: rescue Jewish people. I think I think that that's a
Speaker 1: story worth telling. And please everybody on Reddit especially, keep
Speaker 1: your opinions about me on going to see a fucking
Speaker 1: psychic who gives a shoe yourself like motherfucking funny fun diversion.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's it's it's fine, it's and jokes on you
Speaker 1: when you come back as an aunt. Motherfucker. Okay, and
Speaker 1: that also saves people during some sort of genocideide sort
Speaker 1: of genocide. The Schindler Oscar Schindler of ants. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I save much more munch of money for not going
Speaker 1: to a psychic. This one actually is a sliding scale
Speaker 1: that you pay afterwards. So so if you didn't like
Speaker 1: what they said, she just really wanted it to be
Speaker 1: affordable for whomever wanted her services. So and you don't
Speaker 1: pay till afterwards. I was poor. If she tells you
Speaker 1: your past life was Heinrich Hindler, you can be like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not paying for this out, You're not taking my money, Cody.
Speaker 1: She also said that you're my twin, So that's cool
Speaker 1: that it's true. Honestly, there's a lot going on here
Speaker 1: that is worth unpacking, but not for this show. There is,
Speaker 1: you know what is worth unpacking. I watched a TV
Speaker 1: show that I liked pretty good recently, were it Advice Community?
Speaker 1: Now I do that a lot, but no, the animated well,
Speaker 1: actually this is does tie into that because the animated
Speaker 1: Harley Quinn series, which I'm not a particular fan of
Speaker 1: any of those comics, but one of the carry they have,
Speaker 1: the Riddler, is played by Jim Rash, who does the
Speaker 1: Dean Community, and they have have the Riddler be patterned
Speaker 1: off of the Dean from Community. It's very fun. It's good.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's a good call. Yeah. Um, he makes
Speaker 1: such a funny Riddler. Oh he would, he would be
Speaker 1: the perfect Riddle size that he didn't wear a Riddler
Speaker 1: costume on Community at one point it's it's he's It's
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. It's a pretty good show. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: it a lot. If you enjoy Jim Rash and his
Speaker 1: antics and superhero love, Jim Rash, the Oscar winning writer
Speaker 1: Jim Right, check out sky High if you're familiar with
Speaker 1: the movie, Scott, I've never seen that before and I
Speaker 1: have not seen it. It's a so it's a it's
Speaker 1: a superhero thing for like ten years ago, fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: and it's a sidekick heroes school. It's like a high school.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this sounds right up my alley. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1: two of the kids in the holler in it. Um.
Speaker 1: Bruce Campbell is in it. Bruce Campbell and Jim Rash together,
Speaker 1: Jim Rash and he really oh Russell, Kurt Russell, Kurt Russell,
Speaker 1: Jim Rash and Bruce Campbell are in a thing together.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Also, if you're a
Speaker 1: fan of Succession, Greg from Succession is also in it.
Speaker 1: Get Out. How long ago was this man? I want
Speaker 1: to say, like years ago. So he was like a kid,
Speaker 1: Yeah he was, No, he was not yet New York's
Speaker 1: most Eligi. No, I like it was. I've watched two
Speaker 1: shows recently another so another if you watched the Expanse
Speaker 1: Vampire Diaries. Know, if you watched the Expanse, the main
Speaker 1: guy on the Expanse what's his name? But I've never
Speaker 1: watched Thank you all all you expansies and Expanse heads
Speaker 1: out there. Um, he I watched the entire first season.
Speaker 1: It's like, I know you from something? What are you from?
Speaker 1: What is this? What is this? What is the actor from?
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't look it up until the final season
Speaker 1: or to the end of the season, because I wanted
Speaker 1: to give myself a chance. I didn't figure it out.
Speaker 1: He's also from sky High. Um, so the Expanse and
Speaker 1: Succession too amazing shows with great actors. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know much about any of that, but the fact
Speaker 1: that Jim Rash, Kurt Russell, and Bruce Campbell are an
Speaker 1: ething together has completely changed the world for me. Kevin McDonald,
Speaker 1: they're all there. Oh, man, Cody, you're making this case.
Speaker 1: You're making a strong case, and I'm going to go
Speaker 1: watch that for sure. But I bet neither of you
Speaker 1: has watched Patriot yet. That's what I bet. I bet
Speaker 1: neither of you have watched my recommendation that you're going
Speaker 1: to love this is the time, not is that Time
Speaker 1: killed the vibe here? Um, I've watched. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't normally watch new stuff, but but I'll try Patriot.
Speaker 1: I've got to try Patriot, and I gotta try Peacemaker.
Speaker 1: People keep talking about peace. I'm watching Peacemaker, and I
Speaker 1: gotta say, so far, it's entertaining. I'm a little too
Speaker 1: anxious and um for a lot of too much violence
Speaker 1: right now, which is funny that I'm recommending Patriot, you know,
Speaker 1: even if. But it's really good. Um, and the intro
Speaker 1: is so fucking good. I play it, I rewind it
Speaker 1: over and over, and I'm trying to learn the dan
Speaker 1: That's all I've seen, trying to learn the dance. It
Speaker 1: always hits nice. Well, it seems like we're all having
Speaker 1: a good time on TV. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure
Speaker 1: the world is doing just as well as I as
Speaker 1: part of that transition. Part of my problem with Peacemaker
Speaker 1: and TV in general right now is that I can't
Speaker 1: get through an episode. Um, I'm feeling wound up. I
Speaker 1: check my phone and then I'm reading something. I'm having
Speaker 1: a hard time tuning out, so trying desperately in the world, Yeah, Robert,
Speaker 1: m hmm. Let me just I'm gonna I'm gonna google
Speaker 1: the world, and I'm gonna scroll over to the news
Speaker 1: tab and I'm gonna see what's going on. Oh oh wow,
Speaker 1: there's there's actually quite a few problems happening, right, Although
Speaker 1: this Caribbean destination was just named the best beach in
Speaker 1: the world. That's number three. Yeah, that's not so bad,
Speaker 1: Is that really? I mean the article about the Ukraine
Speaker 1: war stoking food in security is like six down. So
Speaker 1: clearly yeah, tricks to help you think like the world's
Speaker 1: greatest designers. Yeah, so I think things are doing important
Speaker 1: than the best places in the world to retire something
Speaker 1: that is good? That is it that our priorities are
Speaker 1: really locked locked in? Um? Cool? Cool? I think we
Speaker 1: figured it all out. That's the episode where do we
Speaker 1: want to start at the end by everybody? So, did
Speaker 1: you guys know that now San Diego is ranking as
Speaker 1: the least affordable city to buy a house over San Francisco? Wow?
Speaker 1: Really that changed quick? Also San Diego like close behind.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was never in the top in
Speaker 1: my head at least, so I would think that maybe
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. Um, so I went when the fires
Speaker 1: were really bad here, I mean again, during the pandemic
Speaker 1: it's ongoing. Um, but the that lockdown here, I'll start saying, um,
Speaker 1: when the fires were really bad, I went to San Diego,
Speaker 1: I went to college in San Diego. So I went
Speaker 1: there for the weekend to like escape some of the
Speaker 1: smoke because you couldn't go outside. Um in l A.
Speaker 1: And the hotel was filled with people from San Francisco.
Speaker 1: So maybe there's something about them like wanting to stay
Speaker 1: in California, but like being fed up. I mean, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Obviously this is anecdotal, Like all people who live in California.
Speaker 1: I thought slightly more often about San Diego than I
Speaker 1: do about did about Sacramento, and I never thought about sacraments. Look,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that I do not recommend moving
Speaker 1: to San Diego. I lived in San Diego. Is very
Speaker 1: depressed in San Diego. Um, I dropped out of school
Speaker 1: for a little bit and had to like muscle build
Speaker 1: up the courage to go back because I hated living
Speaker 1: in San Diego. Yeah, I mean it's everyone calls America's
Speaker 1: hell basket, but it's yeah, it's just attracts all these
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you're from there's lots of lovely people
Speaker 1: in the horrible place. It's there's there's no there's really
Speaker 1: no one good. They're much like Russia, not a good person.
Speaker 1: Like the violent protests in Portland and like San Diego,
Speaker 1: so fucking violent, scumming villainy. The film surges above the waterline, beautile, tallantiful,
Speaker 1: but you guys, taco wonderful Mexican food, and it is
Speaker 1: it is beautiful. It's just very nice people that I
Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with. I just felt lonely
Speaker 1: and isolated and like I couldn't find friends because there
Speaker 1: was either like rich conservatives or a bunch of very
Speaker 1: drunk frat boys. It was like, speaking of well, it
Speaker 1: sounds like college your experience, It's like it's not San Diego.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you just didn't like well, I didn't
Speaker 1: like college in San Diego, and I think that I
Speaker 1: would have enjoyed college at Berkeley. But I know I
Speaker 1: needed to move to the other end of the state
Speaker 1: to get away from my family therapy. It's news time.
Speaker 1: I was about to go. This is this is now
Speaker 1: the Ship Talking San Diego podcast. I mean, we've covered
Speaker 1: my my dicey, my dicey past lives, given back to Mexico.
Speaker 1: I had the worst break I had my worst breakup
Speaker 1: of my life in San Diego with a drunk frat boy.
Speaker 1: See there you go. They're drawn to it, and there's
Speaker 1: other people. I just I've been saying for years California
Speaker 1: should end it to Mecula and we should have a
Speaker 1: thirty mile d m Z where nothing is allowed to live. No,
Speaker 1: I feel bad. You can just boil the earth to
Speaker 1: keep San Diego away. So we keep Temecula though, because
Speaker 1: what is Temecula done well? Temecula has turned into a
Speaker 1: giant d m Z where no life is allowed to
Speaker 1: thrive in order to protect us from San Diego. You guys,
Speaker 1: I just thought my partners from San Diego, all right,
Speaker 1: she got a friend and say it's fine. Just throwing
Speaker 1: that out there. Honestly, the only problem with San Diego
Speaker 1: is you've got to deal with border patrol way more often.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to deal with border patrol. Horrible frat boys,
Speaker 1: great tacos like you need to talk about the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the new we're really nailing it so far. This wee
Speaker 1: so earlier today in the news, earlier day in the news. Uh,
Speaker 1: bipartisan effort to keep the daylight savings time all year round,
Speaker 1: so the Sate. That's amazing. It's amazing the things that
Speaker 1: we can agree on questions, daylight savings is what we're
Speaker 1: in now. We just we just sprang forward into daylight savings. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe we are currently in because I just do
Speaker 1: not ever need it to switch back. That's the one. Like,
Speaker 1: let's not do this bullshit switch. This is the good one, right,
Speaker 1: we all agree this is the good one. Um, this
Speaker 1: is allegedly the good one, depending on where you live
Speaker 1: and what time of year it is. So I support
Speaker 1: um the national policy uh benefiting me individually and like this,
Speaker 1: Um yeah, it's I don't know. I don't even have
Speaker 1: like strong feelings about daylight savings. I don't I know
Speaker 1: that like it bothers people twice a year, um, for
Speaker 1: like a day. It's just unnecessary. And I do resent
Speaker 1: losing um an hour of daylight when your days are
Speaker 1: naturally getting shorter, and for a lot of people that
Speaker 1: work all day, that is really detrimental to their mental health,
Speaker 1: UM and productivity. And don't like the sun going down
Speaker 1: at four or five PM. I don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: So that's the point. Well, yeah, but now you're gonna
Speaker 1: have like you're gonna have kids, a lot of kids
Speaker 1: like going to school, like when it's like dark for
Speaker 1: two hours. Yeah, them their kids. It gives a ship. Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my attitude. Well, I mean the solution is just
Speaker 1: like have school start later, which is if the sun
Speaker 1: goes down earlier, that kids don't go to school. Now anyway,
Speaker 1: it's less heat though, less heat, less air conditioning needed,
Speaker 1: more breezy, So there's a positive there. Wait, what I
Speaker 1: was saying, If the sun goes down earlier in the
Speaker 1: day and you don't, then it gets cooler earlier in
Speaker 1: the day, and then you're sure. But that has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with how we quantify time and standard No,
Speaker 1: but I was I was like one of the few
Speaker 1: people was like, oh, no, the sun is going to
Speaker 1: be out later, which means it's going to be hotter
Speaker 1: in my home. It should never be dark before seven pm.
Speaker 1: And whatever violence we have to do on an international
Speaker 1: scale to ensure that this is the way everyone lives
Speaker 1: is worth it. M that's my Robert. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: maybe not completely, but I agree with you. Um okay, fine, uh.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm alone in my principles of not caring.
Speaker 1: But that's just the way it is. So speaking of
Speaker 1: you know, San Diego, here's the sponsors of the show,
Speaker 1: which are the San Diego real estate industry. San Diego,
Speaker 1: apparently you can't get a house here. Now together, you're back,
Speaker 1: and uh, let's talk about no fly zones. Do you
Speaker 1: guys want to discuss this. We're done praising the Senate
Speaker 1: for taking the time to pass by partisan Honestly, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit like if you've ever had a friend
Speaker 1: who's like you care about them, but their alcoholism is
Speaker 1: leading them to risk other people's lives by constantly driving drunk,
Speaker 1: and like one time they take a cab home instead
Speaker 1: of like driving hammered home from a party, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad they did that, but also clearly this they're
Speaker 1: going to drive drunk again, like the problem has not
Speaker 1: been So that's how that's how I feel about the
Speaker 1: Senate passing this, where it's like, yeah, well, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you guys decided to do one thing, but I feel
Speaker 1: like you're going to hit four kids crossing an intersection
Speaker 1: because you get drunk at eleven thirty in the morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I my feeling very similar. I feel oh good
Speaker 1: that I mean to me, it's a thing that I
Speaker 1: would I think is good and would like to see happen,
Speaker 1: but also that that's the thing we're doing. What where
Speaker 1: you can agree on this is where we come together.
Speaker 1: Ship is usually like let's give the military hunter billions
Speaker 1: more dollars or something like that. Um I do. I
Speaker 1: will say, I do resent the fact that if you're
Speaker 1: so like you're get you're getting your day like savings.
Speaker 1: Now right, we're not changing the clocks anymore. I think
Speaker 1: that is kind of an insult to everybody who had
Speaker 1: to change their clocks before. Now that's right, really, so
Speaker 1: we should keep it going because other people had to before. Now,
Speaker 1: so we here's change it. Here's the rule, Cody. I
Speaker 1: think anyone under eighteen after we make the change never
Speaker 1: allowed to eat oranges. Okay, well, and I think that
Speaker 1: we need to also talk about we're not allowed to
Speaker 1: um to talk about how we used to eat oranges
Speaker 1: or um that there was ever a different time zone,
Speaker 1: because I think that might make people feel bad in
Speaker 1: some way, you know, and we don't want anybody feel
Speaker 1: bad about that. I do want them to feel bad.
Speaker 1: I want to be filled with eternal rage at us
Speaker 1: for the fact that we get oranges. I want to
Speaker 1: just like sit on my front porch as children go
Speaker 1: by in school buses eating oranges and mocking them. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, this is the beauty of democracy. We
Speaker 1: can have different opinions on these things. I also have
Speaker 1: to I'm sorry. The bill, the actual bill is called
Speaker 1: the Sunshine Protection Act, which sounds like an environmental bill,
Speaker 1: like it sounds like something about energy and like preservation
Speaker 1: or something. It's very like. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: they did it to like trick people, but it's just
Speaker 1: because that wouldn't get passed. But no, it's a funny name.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I want to talk about like
Speaker 1: no fly zones, yeah, just and like part of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So what what what you have happening
Speaker 1: with Ukraine? It's the thing that happens with everything. And
Speaker 1: folks have been making this point for for week since
Speaker 1: the war started, that like all these people who were
Speaker 1: virology experts you know, a couple of months ago, are
Speaker 1: now experts on Ukrainian politics or experts on like NATO
Speaker 1: or whatever. Um. And yes, that's absolutely happening, and it's
Speaker 1: very frustrating. And there's nothing that I hate more than
Speaker 1: like fucking dilettant journalists who just kind of slide into
Speaker 1: whatever the thing is. Like I started reporting on Ukraine
Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen, Um, I have not been doing
Speaker 1: it constantly, and that's part of why I've mostly just
Speaker 1: been signal boosting other people's work and and not been
Speaker 1: kind of trying to make pronouncements about stuff. And it
Speaker 1: very much frustrates me to see the same people who
Speaker 1: are like coming out with half formed bullshit about COVID
Speaker 1: restrictions based on their experience being the son of a
Speaker 1: publishing magnate or whatever the fuck um, are now talking
Speaker 1: shit about like what should be done in Ukraine. And
Speaker 1: it's it's frustrating, like comprehensively um, because there's on one hand,
Speaker 1: you have these people like there was this fucking post
Speaker 1: going around like it was iced tea or ice cube whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever ice is. The is the one who's most on
Speaker 1: Twitter who was like, you know, if one Russian soldier
Speaker 1: shoots one US soldier, that's it, We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: nuclear war, which is a stupid take because guess what,
Speaker 1: Russian soldiers and US soldiers have shot each other a
Speaker 1: bunch of times in the recent past, as have soldiers
Speaker 1: from multiple other nuclear powers. It happens constantly. It happens
Speaker 1: between Pakistan and India, it happens between India and China,
Speaker 1: it happens between Russia and the United States, and nobody
Speaker 1: starts firing nukes over some fucking yea who's and whatever
Speaker 1: chunk of the world is shooting at each other because
Speaker 1: that would be bad for all of the people who
Speaker 1: are in charge of those countries. So number one, like
Speaker 1: you have these people who who's like opinions on geopolitical
Speaker 1: conflicts are heavily based and like the as they have
Speaker 1: remember from movies and assume our actual realities rather than
Speaker 1: like the US killed three Russian soldiers a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago with air strikes in Syria, and you know what,
Speaker 1: it didn't make the news in most places. Nobody fucking cared,
Speaker 1: Like nobody gave a shit because that's pretty normal. Um.
Speaker 1: And so on the other end of things, you have
Speaker 1: all these like kind of lib folks who are making
Speaker 1: these very clear statements about like a no fly zone
Speaker 1: you know, would be fine for this reason or fine
Speaker 1: for that reason, and you know, sometimes we have to
Speaker 1: risk nuclear war for this and for that, And it's
Speaker 1: it's one of those like I'm not even I'm not
Speaker 1: even because I I have I've talked to a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are alive because of no fly zones
Speaker 1: and other parts of the world. So I'm certainly not
Speaker 1: like against the very concept of a no fly zone,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a number of reasons why it's
Speaker 1: it's not going to be particularly effective in Ukraine, Like
Speaker 1: even if you kind of divorce the nuclear aspect, which
Speaker 1: is a major area which is concerned um, but even
Speaker 1: without that, even if, like even if if Putin said tomorrow, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, no nukes, Like whatever happens, nobody's nobody's
Speaker 1: using nukes over this if he were to like, which
Speaker 1: you never would, but like if you were to say that,
Speaker 1: I don't think that instituting a no fly zone would
Speaker 1: have a massive impact on the amount of civilian suffering
Speaker 1: because most of the killing of civilians, based on what
Speaker 1: I am seeing and what I am reading from other analysts,
Speaker 1: is being done by field artillery, which is not and
Speaker 1: by like ballistic missiles and stuff, which I don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any real way that a no
Speaker 1: fly zone is going to like stop or reduce the
Speaker 1: amount of ballistic missiles. There's different ways it could be like,
Speaker 1: one of the issues is that when people talk about
Speaker 1: a no fly zone pro or negative, they are usually
Speaker 1: assuming that it is more of like a single fixed thing,
Speaker 1: when there are a variety of ways in which it
Speaker 1: could be instituted. It's like, one of the questions is, like,
Speaker 1: all right, if you believe that we should have a
Speaker 1: no fly zone, should we just be stopping aircraft? Or
Speaker 1: you try talking about stopping ballistic missiles from entering Ukrainian airspace.
Speaker 1: If that is the case, how are you going to
Speaker 1: do that without like actually moving in anti missile defenses
Speaker 1: all throughout these areas where like they're bordered by Belarus
Speaker 1: and Russia, because most of the ballistic missiles being shot
Speaker 1: into the country are being shot in across those national borders.
Speaker 1: And unless you're moving, you're either moving in like mobile
Speaker 1: anti missile units that are like run by NATO troops,
Speaker 1: which is a real big escalation, or you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: like we're we're gonna let them fire missiles in, but
Speaker 1: we're just gonna stop aircraft, which is again not dealing
Speaker 1: with much of the problem. I don't tend to think
Speaker 1: that a no fly zone is going to do much.
Speaker 1: I get why Zelinsky, and someone in Zelinsky's position would
Speaker 1: be like advocating for it. I certainly don't blame him
Speaker 1: for it. He's in a pretty impossible fucking position. I
Speaker 1: just don't think it would do anything. I think, at
Speaker 1: least on um Our end of things here. I think
Speaker 1: there was a moment on social media where it looked
Speaker 1: like they were not getting very good much traction. Ukraine
Speaker 1: was surprisingly holding people back, and then everyone was like,
Speaker 1: we have to protect the skies. Like it felt to
Speaker 1: me like a very reactive thing in the moment that
Speaker 1: people kind of latched onto it was part of this conversation.
Speaker 1: But like, there's just so much Russia just has so
Speaker 1: many people on the ground. People want simple answers, and
Speaker 1: people on like every side's on every like ideological side
Speaker 1: of this. Once once simple answers want to boil things
Speaker 1: down um to make like the problems and the solutions
Speaker 1: seem simple um, and they just aren't. This is a
Speaker 1: very complicated, messy war UM. And I think that if
Speaker 1: you're if you're someone who is saying that, like I
Speaker 1: support the USE, I support the United States, NATO, the EU,
Speaker 1: whatever sending military aid, I think a strong case can
Speaker 1: be made that the aid that's already going there is
Speaker 1: the most effective way to do that without actually sending
Speaker 1: in ground troops directly to fight. Um. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think there's other than you know. I think there's a
Speaker 1: case to be made about like this. There's this issue
Speaker 1: going on right now with like trying to get Poland's
Speaker 1: MiGs and trying to get more fighter jets to Ukraine.
Speaker 1: You can talk about like ways to increase so called
Speaker 1: lethal aid, you know, sending weapons over UM. I think
Speaker 1: a strong case can be made that if if your
Speaker 1: concern is allowing the Ukrainian military to more effectively fight
Speaker 1: the Russian military, that stuff matters quite a bit. I
Speaker 1: don't think a no fly zone, UM. I think the
Speaker 1: main thing that it would do is it would it
Speaker 1: would necessitate the moving of NATO and US troops closer
Speaker 1: into a conflict where they would be more likely to
Speaker 1: get in fights, you know, where they would be more
Speaker 1: likely to get directly involved, which is messy for a
Speaker 1: bunch of very obvious reasons. UM. I also think a
Speaker 1: strong case can be made that, like just sending in
Speaker 1: weapons is working relatively well um, and that there's really
Speaker 1: there there. I don't see a I don't see any
Speaker 1: simple ways NATO, the United States, the EU, whatever could
Speaker 1: significantly reduce civilian suffering outside of the potential of negotiating
Speaker 1: actual corridors through which civilians could flee, which Russia has
Speaker 1: a at this point fucking fifteen year history of like
Speaker 1: setting up civilian corridors and then bombing them. I mean,
Speaker 1: when that just throughout this as it's been evolving over
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, every time it's like a piece
Speaker 1: talk and then putin agrees to this and not target
Speaker 1: civilians and then immediately target civilians or like the corridor,
Speaker 1: I was like, we have any more news that day?
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, people are posting this, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I doubt it's going to happen, And of course it
Speaker 1: immediately didn't happen. Um, I have a question, sure, because
Speaker 1: I mean, I am one of these people. I'm trying
Speaker 1: my best to not weigh in on things that I
Speaker 1: shouldn't weigh in on, and I'm doing my best to
Speaker 1: read everything and listen to things and learn right during
Speaker 1: this time, and and some of what's happening, and like
Speaker 1: the headlines at least as filtered through American media, which
Speaker 1: is of course sensationalist um makes it feel like Putin's
Speaker 1: just really pushing it, trying, almost almost tempting it, you know,
Speaker 1: sing bombing near borders, saying uh sanctions are tantamount to
Speaker 1: war as well, you know, like it feels a little
Speaker 1: bit like he's laying the groundwork for something bigger if
Speaker 1: sometimes but is that like a very reactionary thing to say,
Speaker 1: because like at this point, it kind of feels like
Speaker 1: for him, digging in deeper is the only way out,
Speaker 1: because like this is it bad for him? This He's
Speaker 1: very much in that situation where like the only way
Speaker 1: out for him is through. But at the same but
Speaker 1: so like if America gets involved, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's got a narrative that's bigger than him and plays
Speaker 1: into like nationalism and whatnot. I don't know, well, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's really I don't think there's any like,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any more the United States could
Speaker 1: be involved that he could actually make any use of
Speaker 1: from like a propaganda standard, because at number one, if
Speaker 1: you're paying attention to like what is being said in
Speaker 1: the Russian media, there's really no way to escalate kind
Speaker 1: of what they're saying I don't think Putin wants a
Speaker 1: nuclear work because he's not a crazy person. He's he's
Speaker 1: doing what dictators do. He's gambling, um, and he's gambling.
Speaker 1: He was, he was gambling at the start of this.
Speaker 1: I think that it would be over in like three
Speaker 1: or four days. Um. He would effectively double the GDP
Speaker 1: of Russia, which taking Ukraine would have more or less
Speaker 1: done if it had been taken like intact, and you
Speaker 1: know that would have set up he could have got something.
Speaker 1: He could have made some more moves in Georgia or Moldova, like,
Speaker 1: he would have had a bunch of options because he
Speaker 1: would have just done this thing and gotten away with it.
Speaker 1: And now he's bogged down into this fucking nightmare that
Speaker 1: is not going great for him. Um, I don't. I
Speaker 1: think one of the frustrating things is that I think
Speaker 1: there's a there's a long series of conversations that Cannon
Speaker 1: ought to be had about like, all right, well this
Speaker 1: ship started in two thousand fourteen. What could several US
Speaker 1: presidential administrations have done to have made this outcome less likely? Um?
Speaker 1: And what could several US presidential administrations have done in
Speaker 1: Syria to have made this outcome less likely. But at
Speaker 1: the moment that we are in right now, I don't
Speaker 1: see a tremendous amount of things to be done other
Speaker 1: than like the war is gonna go the way the
Speaker 1: war is going to go, like because sending in the
Speaker 1: US ground troops, sending in NATO not really an option
Speaker 1: and and to its credit, like I've seen a bunch
Speaker 1: of ship on the left about how like Biden's clearly
Speaker 1: trying to like set up for no flies on. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Biden administration is any fucking desire to
Speaker 1: do that. Um, he's not. They're not making moves to
Speaker 1: do that like they're they've been like shipping on the
Speaker 1: Polish attempts to like get mid twenty nine into Ukraine
Speaker 1: like they've they've they He has been pretty cautious about this,
Speaker 1: And you can think that's good or bad or neutral.
Speaker 1: I'm not really making a value judgment either way. It's
Speaker 1: a pretty messy situation. And of the US presidents who
Speaker 1: have things to blame in Ukraine, I think he's kind
Speaker 1: of low on the list because Obama had two years,
Speaker 1: Trump had four. Uh, Biden had about a year of
Speaker 1: this going on before, like it blew up. So it's
Speaker 1: it's a man um, but it's it's a lot of
Speaker 1: people's messages. Yeah, and I don't have I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: here criticizing by it and either, like I I think
Speaker 1: it's a really tough situation. Not trying to defend him either,
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's doing well. I just think like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do. Also, I also kind
Speaker 1: of feel like time will tell if this is the
Speaker 1: right course of action, if this was the right Like,
Speaker 1: who fucking knows what happens, what are the fallout the
Speaker 1: long term ramifications of Putin succeeding and taking Ukraine and
Speaker 1: what he does next or what happens, and and you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't know. Yeah, but for right now, you
Speaker 1: have to do your best possible calculation with you with
Speaker 1: the information that you have, and protect as many lives
Speaker 1: as possible. Um. I've heard people like journalists on podcasts
Speaker 1: saying like, well, for now, that's his decision, and like
Speaker 1: at a certain point that crisis might get humanitarian crisis
Speaker 1: might get so big that that he decides to it.
Speaker 1: But I see little reason to see that right now,
Speaker 1: because it's like how it's versus the whole world, like
Speaker 1: getting the whole world involved. Yeah, I I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean number one, it's also like not I think
Speaker 1: there was a real question if like they had taken
Speaker 1: Ukraine quickly and then Russia had started making other belligerent
Speaker 1: moves towards other nations that are on their border of like,
Speaker 1: oh god, how bad could this get? But at this point,
Speaker 1: so the the the soldiers, the the armed forces that
Speaker 1: Russia arrayed on the Ukrainian border prior to the start
Speaker 1: of the war, where about seventy five percent of their
Speaker 1: standing active duty military right their actual capacity to to
Speaker 1: project military power, but was on the Ukrainian border between
Speaker 1: six and ten. Most credible estimates are six to eight
Speaker 1: percent of that is dead like of of their of
Speaker 1: their like total standing kind of like like professional mility
Speaker 1: terry force, which is Titanic casualties, they wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to move on to another invasion. Yeah, there's not. I
Speaker 1: I actually the shock waves of this politically, diplomatically and
Speaker 1: and and indeed militarily and humanitarian matters, like in a
Speaker 1: number of ways, you're going to be going on for
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives. But in terms of like
Speaker 1: the ability of this war to expand Russia doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of bandwidth right now. Um, and they are
Speaker 1: one of I mean a number of things are happening.
Speaker 1: One of one of the things that's going to be
Speaker 1: have an impact on this it's kind of an impact
Speaker 1: on a bunch of stuff is that um COVID surging
Speaker 1: rates have shut down Shenzen, which is what makes most
Speaker 1: of like the significant chunk of microchips, which, in addition
Speaker 1: to being necessary for your bitcoin mining rigs and your
Speaker 1: gaming pieces, are also really necessary for modern military equipment.
Speaker 1: And Russia burnt through particularly a lot of the very best,
Speaker 1: most advanced Russian military equipment was blown up in the
Speaker 1: first like four days of this war. A significant percentage
Speaker 1: of their ship blown up or abandoned, tracted away by farmers, whatever.
Speaker 1: And not only economically, is it going to be difficult
Speaker 1: to replace a lot of that stuff you know they have,
Speaker 1: They have essentially endless amounts of like BMPs, these shitty
Speaker 1: armored personal character carriers. They got a lot of like
Speaker 1: T seventy twos and whatnot. But when you're talking about
Speaker 1: like advanced SAM systems, high grade like modern artillery MLR s,
Speaker 1: systems which are these like multiple rocket launcher systems. Those
Speaker 1: are require things in order to make more of them
Speaker 1: that number one Russia is going to have trouble affording.
Speaker 1: And number two, the the global bandwidth to produce the
Speaker 1: things that are necessary to make that has changed in
Speaker 1: a really significant way very soon, like very recently. Um
Speaker 1: how long has China? But I know that they're back
Speaker 1: in a full blown outbreak right now. I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: it's going to be like a month thing like here. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know that nobody who knows, right, who knows?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying my thoughts out loud. Yeah, Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's I'm trying not to like come
Speaker 1: down too much on one side of the other, other
Speaker 1: than stating, I don't really see how a no fly
Speaker 1: zone would materially change the circumstances of this war in
Speaker 1: a way that would be worth the risk. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: not against. I don't know. It's messy, Like a bunch
Speaker 1: of weird things are gonna happen in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: this war, including the fact that like an awful lot
Speaker 1: of military grade anti aircraft weaponry is just like around
Speaker 1: now in a lot of weird hands in a way
Speaker 1: that has never been the case, um, and that could
Speaker 1: have some impacts. There's there could be a really negative
Speaker 1: weapons anywhere is going to have well effects that you
Speaker 1: don't well and a part of the insurgency that's inevitably
Speaker 1: going to happen, you know, I mean, provided well, it's
Speaker 1: just like some of it is like yeah, we're shipping
Speaker 1: stingers and manet like man pads and ship in there
Speaker 1: and like who knows what will happen with all of those,
Speaker 1: But also like a bunch of twenty million dollar Russian
Speaker 1: anti aircraft batteries are just like random people have them,
Speaker 1: and like there's a lot, Like there's a lot that
Speaker 1: hasn't happened before, Like nobody has ever dealt with this.
Speaker 1: We've certainly had the situation of like oh yeah, with
Speaker 1: the Mujahideen and Afghanistan, Like yeah, some people were just
Speaker 1: like like a bunch of fucking anti aircraft rocket launchers
Speaker 1: that were man portable wound up in the hands of
Speaker 1: some sketchy people and like that was there. There were
Speaker 1: some like consequences to that no one's ever had. Like
Speaker 1: the wee, now this this system that can shoot down aircraft.
Speaker 1: It's seventy thousand feet or whatever. That caught that only
Speaker 1: Nation States can afford is just owned by some guy
Speaker 1: named Igor in a forest. So, like, what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: with that fill in the blank. Who knows? Anyone's guess.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be fine. Yeah, boy, you know what,
Speaker 1: I like brakes together everything, So don't go back. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, they got a break, but we didn't
Speaker 1: get a break. There's no time for breaks. Dive right in, Cody,
Speaker 1: what's thirty seconds? What's your solution to Ukraine? Stop it? Okay? Good,
Speaker 1: good answer, Yeah, thank you, we nailed it. Welcome the
Speaker 1: easy answers. Yeah, it's called the fourth second answer to
Speaker 1: the thirty second question. Well, that's gonna do it for
Speaker 1: us here, Ye, problems came back from break for one bit?
Speaker 1: What else you gonna doh? That my new my new
Speaker 1: my Google alert for the world, and the news tab
Speaker 1: just came up of Vladimir Putin responds to Cody's statement,
Speaker 1: what do you say I get? Yeah? No, he said, okay, though, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's stream these episodes live to him. Yeah, piped right
Speaker 1: into Russia. They don't they don't let anything on air
Speaker 1: but through but but us for some reason for sure
Speaker 1: immediately responded to me, and yet has yet to respond
Speaker 1: to Elon Musk's challenge to physically fight him. There's, my god,
Speaker 1: there's something I want. It's one of those things I
Speaker 1: don't I don't care who would win. I just want
Speaker 1: to see it. Let's yes, let's have it happened. Embarrassing,
Speaker 1: it's pretty so unbelievably embarrassing and kills me that so
Speaker 1: many people drive his fucking cars. It's I know that
Speaker 1: they're good for the world and that's great and stuff,
Speaker 1: but you know, they all know who he is different one.
Speaker 1: They all there's lots of electric cars. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: hate you, but like I'm not going to date you.
Speaker 1: It's I got a buddy right now who is like
Speaker 1: he's essentially retired because he's um um got disabled in
Speaker 1: the military and stuff, and he just like I took
Speaker 1: a got a ride to Odessa to help with like
Speaker 1: the flow of orphans that are being created as a
Speaker 1: result of this war. And like Elon Musk twenty million
Speaker 1: bucks a rounding era for him send a bunch of
Speaker 1: people into like help get LGBT people out to help
Speaker 1: deal with the with orphans, help get civilians out, and
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody it'll come out six months later. It'll
Speaker 1: come out because it's not gonna work. That was gonna
Speaker 1: if it comes out later that he like. So here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I I wanted to bring it up. Anyway
Speaker 1: when we started, Elon Musk, has anybody received any word
Speaker 1: on how starlink is faring? Because if you recall, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've mentioned him the show what
Speaker 1: show are in my dreams? But um, my parents tried
Speaker 1: getting starlink because they live in an area without good
Speaker 1: uh Internet, and they couldn't use it because there are
Speaker 1: trees around. So if there is like you're going to
Speaker 1: have not trees a tree. If there's a tree, it
Speaker 1: will disrupt service easily for people. So I feel like
Speaker 1: that might be a problem. Also, the last I checked,
Speaker 1: people have to have terminals on the ground and those
Speaker 1: are like six Did he distribute terminals to people so
Speaker 1: that they could access the starlink stuff? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I am very curious, has to because
Speaker 1: everybody was sharing that and saying this is a you
Speaker 1: know what this Elon Musk, you might have your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Elon Musk, but this is pretty cool. And I said,
Speaker 1: maybe is it you know anyway? Is it? Is it right?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely a pr thing. It's a pr thing.
Speaker 1: Also like he's not clearly not taking it seriously anyway. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, posting memes about how people
Speaker 1: whose support Ukraine or like yeah, however, how being horrified
Speaker 1: at seeing another set of cities carpet bombed into powder
Speaker 1: is like bandwagoning as opposed to two and a half
Speaker 1: million refugees have been created in less than three weeks.
Speaker 1: What a fucking nightmare? Um, which is like what most
Speaker 1: people are doing. Most people's reaction to Ukraine, you know,
Speaker 1: the takes on Twitter are fifty fifty, but most people's
Speaker 1: reactions just like, oh god, this looks awful because it is.
Speaker 1: And that's like a reasonable way to look at a war. No,
Speaker 1: not really, He's rich, um yeah, because it's it's he. Never.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there was anybody that I I think
Speaker 1: might be an alien and human skin, it's him or
Speaker 1: these two people I saw on a walk yesterday. Nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with they were cute, No, no, they were sweet.
Speaker 1: They just spoke to me a little. So. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, there's cool ship going on. There's stories coming
Speaker 1: out of the UK right now that one Russian oligarch's
Speaker 1: mansion has been occupied by a bunch of anarchists who
Speaker 1: intend to I mean, last I heard the cops were
Speaker 1: lining up outside. I'm not sure if, but but kind
Speaker 1: of forcing the police to either let them do it
Speaker 1: or defend an oligarch's property is a pretty neat move.
Speaker 1: Was there a story out of France or something like?
Speaker 1: They haven't verified that one, so I don't know what
Speaker 1: the state, but it Yeah, I like the idea of
Speaker 1: people occupying. I mean we'll start, well, they all start
Speaker 1: using some of those properties for refugees, Yeah, to host refugees.
Speaker 1: That's a great idea. Again, I think other kinds of
Speaker 1: oligarchs we could take their houses too, But if it
Speaker 1: starts with Russian oligarchs, that's fine to me. It's all
Speaker 1: got to start somewhere. Um, yeah, so that would be neat.
Speaker 1: You guys want to talk about Missouri. It's part of
Speaker 1: the world, it is, and it is a part of
Speaker 1: this terrible year. Weren't. As someone who was born in St. Louis,
Speaker 1: I certainly wish it weren't the world. Yeah, Missouri is
Speaker 1: going to pass this law that bands um abortions of
Speaker 1: actopic pregnancies. Um an Ectopic pregnancy takes place out of
Speaker 1: when the seed is implanted outside of the uterus. It
Speaker 1: is not viable. Um it you cannot carry a child
Speaker 1: to term and have it survived. It will kill the woman.
Speaker 1: It will kill the mother, and it Oh I mean
Speaker 1: how I don't. I don't, I don't. I do not
Speaker 1: understand the rationale and the thinking behind thinking that this is. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't understand the logic. It's just facts of what
Speaker 1: this is. Like there's no life being saved here, You're
Speaker 1: you're killing people. Yeah, it's yeah, well I mean it's
Speaker 1: because this is I mean, ultimately, they just want to
Speaker 1: uh you know, we all know what they want to do. Ultimately. UM.
Speaker 1: I mean, is there anyway this is you know, where
Speaker 1: you're like doing doing something that's like completely unreasonable. And
Speaker 1: I feel like this has to get struck down. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it will, Like it's like it's it's ludicrous. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's the kind of thing that like, okay, well
Speaker 1: we won't you know, I don't know, just making like
Speaker 1: crafting the and pushing these like very uh awful bills
Speaker 1: and then when they're struck down be like, okay, well
Speaker 1: we'll do we'll do it, and it might be some
Speaker 1: quote reasonable and then they get what they actually want, right,
Speaker 1: it might be some sort of move like that for sure,
Speaker 1: but it's just um oh, it's just really hard to
Speaker 1: see not to be some white feminist because there's lots
Speaker 1: of harder things that not harder. Gosh here I am
Speaker 1: checking choosing my words very carefully, but it is hard
Speaker 1: to watch um them ship away at this and know
Speaker 1: what's coming and know that ultimately, like in a few
Speaker 1: months they are almost certainly about to overturn Row and
Speaker 1: it's like a slow motion car crash happening, and so like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this, but it's still fucking offensive, um and scary.
Speaker 1: And then also what it doesn't designed to Like when
Speaker 1: it doesn't pass, you're like, well, at least that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, fuck, that's like dant amount to murder of
Speaker 1: a person that's of a mom that could go and
Speaker 1: have an actual pregnancy, that could is already probably heartbroken
Speaker 1: that she can't carry a child to turn because also
Speaker 1: guess what a lot of most people. It's not like
Speaker 1: women don't are aborting babies left and right. The decision
Speaker 1: to not have a child is deeply personal and very
Speaker 1: difficult for most any who. That's my little soapbox. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, maybe it's something that we don't but I
Speaker 1: will think we deserve to be angry about it, even
Speaker 1: if I don't think that it will ultimately stand, and
Speaker 1: we should continue to be We're gonna just be seeing
Speaker 1: this continuing on and on a lot like trans rights
Speaker 1: and the different bills aimed at targeting and trans use.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep seeing it. We're gonna keep seeing this.
Speaker 1: These are the things that they can do and chip
Speaker 1: away and chip away and change subtly change public perceptions.
Speaker 1: I've had so many conversations I want this one person.
Speaker 1: I won't even give more information, just saying like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is a big deal if it's a gender
Speaker 1: affirming surgery. Want not to completely pivot this whole conversation
Speaker 1: gender affirming surgery at a young age. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you are accidentally talking sharing a right wing talking point,
Speaker 1: you know, like you are accidentally buying into this narrative,
Speaker 1: And that's how it happens, even if people don't even
Speaker 1: know what's happening, they're like, well, maybe this points like no,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not valid here. I can't even remember
Speaker 1: if I brought this up in another podcast. I talked
Speaker 1: about it a lot when you like look at when
Speaker 1: you when you read kind of like actual scholarly analyzes
Speaker 1: about the early years the Third Reich was in power.
Speaker 1: One of the things you come across a lot is
Speaker 1: this like problem they had where in order to get
Speaker 1: into power, they had to make a lot of like
Speaker 1: really bug fuck claims to get like number one, to
Speaker 1: get people riled up, to like uh, set kind of
Speaker 1: some of the ideological stages and like create this sort
Speaker 1: of zero sum game. There's a lot of like different
Speaker 1: promises they made and like things they would talk about
Speaker 1: ideologically that once they were in power, no one had
Speaker 1: any idea how to translate into policy because it was
Speaker 1: just nuts. And so a big chunk of their early
Speaker 1: years was like finding out how to actually like what
Speaker 1: the policy versions of all of these crazy promises were
Speaker 1: looked like. And we get a lot of the things
Speaker 1: that were like most fucked up and horrible and weird
Speaker 1: from the Third Reich out of this peer it and
Speaker 1: what you're seeing in these states where the GOP has
Speaker 1: effectively demolished any kind of opposition to Republican policy is
Speaker 1: number one. All these like bug funk things they say
Speaker 1: to go viral, they have to figure out, like, well,
Speaker 1: what does the law version of this look like? And
Speaker 1: the other thing going on is that like, well, we've
Speaker 1: already effectively banned abortion. So if you're a Republican congress
Speaker 1: person or if you're running for office or you want
Speaker 1: to like get re election or whatever, you're trying to
Speaker 1: keep your name in the news as Republican policymaker. There's
Speaker 1: nothing really more to do there except crazy shit. So
Speaker 1: that you can say you're still you're you're fighting for
Speaker 1: the pro life thing even though there's nothing more to
Speaker 1: fight for in Texas, and that in the in the
Speaker 1: state you're in, because you've effectively banned it, you have
Speaker 1: to keep doing things to keep the donations and ship coming.
Speaker 1: So you said, well, now we're banning a topic pregnancies,
Speaker 1: and like that, that's that's why this is happening, yeah,
Speaker 1: Or like the CRT stuff where it's like railiance that
Speaker 1: for a year and then sudden He's like, well, now
Speaker 1: you can't teach about Martin Luther King Jr. Like there's
Speaker 1: just all this stuff. Like well, on a policy level,
Speaker 1: once you actually decide what it is, it's ridiculous and unworkable.
Speaker 1: And that's I mean also with trans rights and all
Speaker 1: the again exactly, it's all, it's all part of it.
Speaker 1: These are the new thing goalposts, and they'll just keep
Speaker 1: finding something else. One of the things that I think
Speaker 1: is funny out of all this is that like Beto
Speaker 1: O Rourke, who is hopelessly running for governor again, like
Speaker 1: looked at the political situation in Texas and was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, the thing that I have to compromise
Speaker 1: with the right on and when when real or in
Speaker 1: order to have a chance at election is critical race theory.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying I'm gonna take everyone in Texas
Speaker 1: his guns. That's that's fine. I think I can win
Speaker 1: making that claim. CRT is where to make the compromise?
Speaker 1: What is how is he compromising on CRT um He
Speaker 1: made a statement that like he doesn't believe critical race
Speaker 1: theory should be taught in schools or some ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's just like what the fuck are
Speaker 1: you doing? Well, because it isn't because it isn't taught
Speaker 1: in schools, you know, but like it's really gross, Okay,
Speaker 1: I yeah. He was asked like I'm sure it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where like he made a statement that's
Speaker 1: not nearly as he's clear is not a good communicator,
Speaker 1: which he was to support critical race theory, and I
Speaker 1: think he said no, he said he doesn't think CRT
Speaker 1: should be taught in schools, because what he's trying to
Speaker 1: do is say like, well, CRT is like this law
Speaker 1: term that they teach law schools, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they should be taught in schools because and it's not.
Speaker 1: I think are probably on the same page as well.
Speaker 1: We don't see CRT being taught in our schools right now.
Speaker 1: It is a course that is taught in law schools.
Speaker 1: I don't think CRT should be taught in our schools.
Speaker 1: That's just help. That's so he's so bad at this.
Speaker 1: The right answer, like the right thing is like, it's
Speaker 1: not you're lying to people. It's not you're lying to people,
Speaker 1: and it's fine to teach the history of racism in
Speaker 1: our nation. His response is like, let's give them. Let's
Speaker 1: let's let's respond to this in a way that like
Speaker 1: makes the obvious sound bite, because I don't think he
Speaker 1: gets I don't know, he's he's not. He's not. He's
Speaker 1: not going to be the governor of Texas. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not. That's fine, he's not going to be the
Speaker 1: governor of Texas. He's it's it's just not going to happen.
Speaker 1: A different kind of person is necessary. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it now. That is a really bad response because it's
Speaker 1: just like giving people in the easy Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gotta I'm sure. I don't know if listeners are
Speaker 1: super aware of Christopher Ruffo, but he's this like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's like he'd have been stabbed,
Speaker 1: admitting that he's conflating everything with everything else in order
Speaker 1: to make it confusing. And then you ban everything that's
Speaker 1: his whole whole things out there. But now you have
Speaker 1: him tweeting Beato. Rourke becomes the first prominent Democrat to
Speaker 1: flip against critical race there. Yeah, yeah, well that's not
Speaker 1: what happens. It's not what it is at this Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that's going to be the episode for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is isn't it feels right? I want to pick
Speaker 1: yourself up a little. Imagine Christopher Ruffo getting stabbed by
Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman dressed as a pirate. Yeah, that's nice. Or
Speaker 1: um um being a dolphin saving people and hiding them
Speaker 1: in underground sea caves. Being a dolphin like me stabbing
Speaker 1: Christopher Ruffo lookie and then giving giving a high five. Today.
Speaker 1: I once saw the real actual Rufio at yogurt Land.
Speaker 1: That's good, and I'm sorry, but it's just so much
Speaker 1: like the colorful food that they throw at each other
Speaker 1: that it's that. I was like, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: amazing that I did not throw it at him. I
Speaker 1: wanted to. Should you guys know that? When they were
Speaker 1: making Hook, one of my favorite movies, perfect films, so good.
Speaker 1: Um at the actor who played Shmi, who was also
Speaker 1: the main character and who framed Roger Rabbit, which blew
Speaker 1: my mind. Ye Hoskins, Yeah, he and Dustin Hoffman who
Speaker 1: played Hook, decided to play their characters as if they
Speaker 1: were longtime gay romantic partners. They just didn't want to
Speaker 1: say it, but like that's how we're actually going to
Speaker 1: play it, Like that's it's perfect. Well, I'm you watching
Speaker 1: that tonight. It's so good, awesome. Yeah, it's film incredible
Speaker 1: rescue throw. Yeah. We really dovetailed this episode with some
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