1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Soon. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Osher. 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast. I get 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: right to it. We have Jordan Lewis, cornerback who signed 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: as a free agency offseason, and Jordan, first of all, 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: thank you for doing this very. 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Much, no problem. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: And we were talking a little bit before went on 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: the air free agency doesn't always work. You kind of 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 2: smiled and said, Hey, I can count on one hand 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: the number of times it has. What's gone right, because 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: it's been notable since you got here, the leadership, everything, 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: what a fitted has been Uh. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: Why So like when when James he told me to 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: come here and be myself, And when I first talked 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: to Coach Liam, he told me going here and just 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: be who you are. And I know that Coach Liam 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: and James have been watching me for a while because 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: you know, they were with the Rims and that I 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: played the Rams a few time, so they knew exactly 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: what they were getting to me. So when they came 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: to come get me, they knew the type of person 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: I was, and they had you know, people around the 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: lead telling them, you know, my type of character. And 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: it was just easy because I could just be who 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: I am, so I didn't have to be extra. I 27 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: didn't have to do anything that I wasn't used to doing, 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: So just came in and just was the person that 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: I am. 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: It strikes me a fairly unique situation, A chance in 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: year nine to come in and be a part of something, 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: something that clearly you may not have a great feel 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: for it because you weren't here last year, but it's 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: such a new vibe and it's such a chance to 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: be part of it on the ground floor. It helps 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: something grow. How appealing was that? And how about you 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: enjoying that? 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: That was everything? 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: When I talked to Coach Camp on the phone, you 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: could just hear, you know, how excited he was to 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: go out there and challenge people and go out there 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: and have a really good defense. So I want to 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: spearhead something like that. I always wanted to be a 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: guy that you know, people could you know, depend on 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: and lean on in the locker room and you know, 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: on the field. So to be around the type of 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: people that were around every day, you know, the coaches, 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: to the players, it means the world, man, because we 49 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: have the talent to go do it and in the 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: right mindset to go, you know, do really good things. 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: Man. 52 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: So it was like a whirlwind. We we got everything right. 53 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: The front off is right, the coaching staff and the players. 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: So it's just a perfect storm and we go and 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: you have those three things that's in unison, you can 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: you can do really good things. 57 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: I was gonna get Tim later. You brought him up 58 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: coach camp. Quite the person, yea. And I heard a 59 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: couple of guys talk about, Hey, you know it's sleep. 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: What are your impressions of him? And what is he 61 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: meant to bring in his group together? 62 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: Man? 63 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: He's just he's His energy is you know, infectious man. 64 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: So just being around him every single day and just 65 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: know knowing how vulnerable he is. He told us the 66 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: story about his dad and you know him when he 67 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: was wrestling and how when he was wrestling he didn't 68 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: give it as all and his dad told him to 69 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: find it right home. And it was it just you know, 70 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: just being that vulnerable and telling him, you know, and 71 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: relating it back to you know, going out there and 72 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: just going and playing as hard as we can and 73 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: giving it all. And we've you know, come out on 74 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: top of a lot of the times. That's that just 75 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: means the world to us, and we can we want 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: to run through a wall for him because he's just, 77 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 3: you know, completely transparent with us, and he he wants 78 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: to go out there and he loves us and he wants. 79 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: To go play good ball. So you can't you can't 80 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: do anything but but love that and go go play 81 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: with good ball. How we we did this last week 82 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: this week? 83 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 2: And he said once right when he first got here, 84 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: I was talking to him and as I was asking 85 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: him about scheme, was he gonna play a four to 86 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: three or three four and out of it was off 87 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: the record or not, I'm sure he wouldn't mind me sharing. 88 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: He said, Look, scheme's fine, but to him, coaching is 89 00:03:54,760 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: about connecting and knowing you guys believe that he these 90 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: for you guys. Yeah, and that that matters in the pros. 91 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Right yeah. 92 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: No, Like like I said, man, we have people like 93 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: that that it doesn't matter what we play. 94 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: We play all our zero, all game. When you believe in. 95 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: Your guys, you you put that that hope in them 96 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: to go out there and execute, it doesn't matter, you know, guys, 97 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: go go out there and and run through wall for 98 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: you like we we are We were ready to do 99 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: whatever for them, And it doesn't matter what the scheme is, 100 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: what we play. We just want to go out there 101 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: and do a full speed for him because he believes 102 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: in us and he believes we can get the job done. 103 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: What's the I mean, I kind of the answer obviously 104 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: to the vibe on this team right now after a 105 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: week one win, you know, you got more to do. 106 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: It sort of feels like it's just getting started. 107 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Right Yeah. 108 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: We just we want to get better each day and 109 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: that's that's by practice, by practice. So yesterday it wasn't 110 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: our best practice, and we want to go out there 111 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: and show that we can go practice well. So it's 112 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: not about, you know more and so the games and 113 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: things like that is more so our process and how 114 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: we do things and how we do our day to 115 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: day you know, how hard we practice, how detail we practice, 116 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: you know, how detailed we are in the meetings, you know, 117 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: and what's our connection off the field. So that's really 118 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: what we think about on a day to day basis, what. 119 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: Does it meant to you to be a captain immediately 120 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: on a new teams. 121 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: That I've been waiting for that for a while, I 122 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: mean unofficially I've been a captain for a while, but yeah, 123 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: for the team, you know, the staff and no unofficially. Yeah, 124 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: so in that less you know, I was on you know, 125 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: the leadership and median and things like that. But to 126 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: have that seat on the on the jersey, to go 127 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: out there and represent the guys and the staff the 128 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: right way and for them to believe in me as 129 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: early as they have, it just means the world. 130 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm ready to run through a wall 131 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: for them because. 132 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: They believe in me and they have hope that I can, 133 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: you know, lead this team to to victories. 134 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: How do you how do you lead? And what I 135 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: mean by that is, you know, sometimes when a veteran 136 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: comes in new and sort of is just doling out advice, 137 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: young guys can sort of say, okay, well, so how 138 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: do you approach uh being a leader and being there. 139 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: For guys like like coach Camperanelli has with me, how 140 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: Coach Liam has with me. You know, just building a relationship, 141 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: you know, build a relationship with those guys. If we 142 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: have any chance to go do something outside of football, 143 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: we go do it. And you know, I don't miss 144 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: a chance to go, you know, and just connect with 145 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: them and I just talk about football, just seeing how 146 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: they're doing as people and you know, trying to develop 147 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: them as you know, human beings more so than just 148 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 3: being able to you know, all yeah, just lead them 149 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: on or tell them what to do, or being charged 150 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: on the field. So just that connectivity, just being a 151 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: just a human being to them, you know, a decent 152 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: human being honestly. 153 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: And that's that's what I wanted as when I was. 154 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: A young player, just somebody that wanted to be around me, 155 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 3: you know, and not only just showed me the roles, 156 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: but wanted to be interested in me and as a person. 157 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: So I'm just doing what I always wanted from when 158 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: I was a young rookie, second year a guy. 159 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: So he did that for you? 160 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: Who did that for me? Shan Lee? Shan Lee. Sean 161 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: Lee was yeah, playing a long time. 162 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. So he showed me The ropes Man and he 163 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: invited me. 164 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: He invited me and my one of my best friends, 165 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Chobe Woozie place in Baltimore right now, we were the 166 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: young guys there and he was just he was just 167 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: so generous, you know. Yeah. 168 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he just he would invite in to his house. 169 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: We'll watch film on him late and we just watched 170 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: him and he was. 171 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: Just you know, absolutely, So we taught us how to 172 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: be a pro and you know when you do hang 173 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: loose and things like that. You know, you want to 174 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: be involved with the guys. You know what I'm saying, 175 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: don't shoot it off. Showed me a whole you know 176 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: who you are as a person, so that that resonates 177 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: with a lot of guys too, Like just showing them 178 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: who you are off the field and not just this 179 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: facade of I'm a leader. 180 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: Right now, are you the big brother or you the dad? 181 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm the big brother. 182 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm too small to be your dad on the 183 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: football team, you know, I'm a big brother, man. But 184 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: like I'm just I want them to know that, you know, 185 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: I'm I'm a peer of theirs. You know that you 186 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: know can help you go through this life and on 187 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: the football field. Not I'm not trying to, you know, 188 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: say I've I'm you know, a level above anybody. 189 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I want to I want to leave from the back. 190 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: I want to service people. 191 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: So that's really what it is, just going out there 192 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: and helping people and serving. 193 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to be anybody's father. I just want 194 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: to help. 195 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: I've heard so much. I guess really since training camp 196 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: be in about the level of communication and defensive backfield. 197 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: It's something they lacked last year. Something they brought in 198 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: you and Eric and do He's in the lineup for 199 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: that reason. What does communication mean in the defensive backfield? 200 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if football to know it, how does 201 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: that come to life. 202 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: That's the difference between a touchdown and you know, stopping 203 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: some people on third downs and things like that. So 204 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: when you communicate and we all on the same page 205 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: and we know how we're gonna play everything exact to 206 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: the you know, the structure of the defense is harder 207 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: for the offense to you know, to get one overall us. 208 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: So when we don't communicate and people are guessing and 209 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: people are saying, Ahwa's gonna play it like this, that's 210 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: when you know, the deep ball gets over our heads 211 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So us being on the screws 212 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: is us you know, talking first, understanding what we're doing 213 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: exactly to the t on that certain play, and that 214 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: takes that takes time, and that takes communication on a 215 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: very high level. So pre snap, we gotta go out 216 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 3: there and talk to each other and let each other 217 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: know what we have and you know, alert this, alert that, 218 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: so we all on our p's and q's and know 219 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: exactly what to do. 220 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: Some specifics before I get into a little bit of 221 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: your story. Not a bad wide receiver group you're playing 222 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: this week? How from a corner's perspective? Tell me why 223 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: these guys are still good? 224 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 225 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: I mean they're extremely explosive. One just on the outside 226 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: and that's not in Pluton. You know how connected they 227 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: are to their quarterback and that is that takes them 228 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: on another level too. 229 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: So they're extremely talented one. 230 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: And then you have a guy that they've been with 231 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: since they've been in the league and a guy that 232 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: they've been a guy one of the guys been with 233 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: them since he was in college, so that the rapport 234 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: is is second to none, I feel like in the NFL. 235 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: So they understand where they want to be on the 236 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: football field, and they understand where they want to throw 237 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: the ball and where they want. 238 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: To catch the ball. So one, they're extremely talented. 239 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: They can run and catch, they can go and get 240 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: the ball, they can run routes. And then it's a 241 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: guy that can put the ball on pinpoint accuracy. So 242 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: that that doesn't help us. Yeah, and they gonna keep coming. 243 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: They're gonna keep throwing the ball at no matter what 244 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: it is, they're gonna they're gonna find something. So it's 245 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: that the guys on the outside, they're talented, will shoot. 246 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: Even the tight ends, running backs, they're talented, and they 247 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: they have a connection with the quarterback. 248 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: That's that's that's different. 249 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: You can't ask anybody in the defensive backfield anything without 250 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: talking about Travis. So what's special about the kid? 251 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, his energy, his energy, and his willingness to go 252 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 3: play both sides or go play whatever you know it 253 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: needs to be played. 254 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: So that that takes us. 255 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: That's a skill to go out there and want to 256 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: do that, And that's a skill to understand, you know, 257 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: the different type of movements that you need to learn 258 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: and have to be a rod receiver to get open 259 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: as a wide receiver to to lock people down on defense. 260 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: So it's definitely two different movements, but I feel like 261 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: he understands both of them and he has the energy 262 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: and the want to and the stamina to go out 263 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: there and do it. So that's that's something that you know, 264 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people you know don't attest to well enough. 265 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: I keep hearing about how like an unreal teammate, he 266 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: is already for a young kid coming in with a 267 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: lot of hype. Tell me about that. I mean, as 268 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: a veteran, it would be easy to, yeah, for the 269 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: guy to alienate people. But everything you hear is that 270 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: this guy. 271 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: Today, even we was on the field, he's like, yeah, 272 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: Jay Lou, this is this you you should bag up here. 273 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: You should bag up here. 274 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: When you're checking me this, how this how I you know, 275 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: this is kind of harder when you do this and that. 276 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, that's dope, you know what I'm saying. 277 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: So he he understands how to make the team better 278 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: with you know. 279 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: The team first everything. 280 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he understands that he just want to play football. 281 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: That he don't you don't mind, he don't care what's 282 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: going on. He just want to go out there and 283 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: play football. 284 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: Man. 285 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: And just him being on the field and and like 286 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: I said, communicating like oh this is what I would 287 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: thought did here or there? 288 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: That that helps a. 289 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: Lot pretty high end stuff. So people who don't know 290 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: remarkable what you have been through. I'm referring to your injury. 291 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: I think it was twenty three, right, twenty two. I'm sorry. 292 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: I've seen it described as a list Frank, and then 293 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: I've seen you describe it, but just a list Frank. Yeah, 294 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: if you don't mind. Sort of talked me through that 295 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: and the how coming back from that has shaped you. 296 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 297 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: I knew it was gonna be a long road. I 298 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: know it was gonna be a long roll, so honestly, 299 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: it wasn't. They said they classified as a Liz Frank 300 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: because I broke like the top bones on my foot, 301 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: but actually know I crushed my entire foot, like I 302 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: broke all of the bones. I tore all of the 303 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: tendance like I completely crushed it. And and nobody really 304 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: told me how bad it was. They said it was 305 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: it was bad, but yeah, no they didn't. But once 306 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: I was starting to come back and they knew like 307 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: I played, they was like, we didn't think you're gonna 308 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: play again and anything, we're gonna play again because it 309 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: was They've never seen anything like it. 310 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: So I don't even know how I did that. You know. 311 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: Uh, I got Brett Brown, that right man, Dallas, So 312 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: we were with each other every single day, and he 313 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: encouraged me, like I told you. He never told me 314 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: exactly how severe it was until I came back, but 315 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: he always encouraged me, and we spend every day with 316 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: each other, you know, getting better and saying he was like, 317 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you back on the field. 318 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 1: So you know him at first, they're pretty close. 319 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: But he always talks about it and even to this 320 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: day he's like, I'm a boy doing so yeah. Yeah, absolutely, 321 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: so it was. It was tough though. It was definitely hard. 322 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,479 Speaker 2: And still wear a special. 323 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, customized, customized cleats that that helped me a 324 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: lot cold for war showing people out because they definitely 325 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: saved my career because I can't. 326 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: I really can't really wear like regular cleats right now. 327 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: So how does that shape you that deep into your career? 328 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: The obvious question is more appreciation for the game. 329 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: Honestly, it was. 330 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: It helped that I was a worker before, so understanding 331 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: you know what I needed to do with the muscles 332 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: I needed to work and you know, how how to 333 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: get back. It helped that I knew how to lift 334 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: weights and go out there and run, so yeah, you 335 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: were doing yeah, So I had good people around me 336 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: that that supplemented my workouts and you know, treat I 337 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: had treatment and things like that that that really strengthened 338 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: my leg and my foot of my ankle, and then 339 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: I had to learn how to rerun, you know, especially 340 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: with my foot and you know how it was structured now. 341 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: So that was really the hardest part, you know, just learning, 342 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: you know, how to run and think of you know, 343 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: teaching myself how to run again. But you know, going 344 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: into doing the work and lifting waste and things like that, 345 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: that was the easy part. 346 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I knew what to do because I already did it. 347 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: So a lot of times when guys get hurt and 348 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: you don't see them play again, really is because they 349 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: never really worked before they got hurt, so they know, 350 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: they don't know really how to come back. So I 351 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: knew what I needed to do and the things that 352 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: I did to do it, and now I'm I'm back 353 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: and tip tops formed. 354 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: I know you've gone over that a lot, so I 355 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: appreciate you sort of telling our fans about that. You know, 356 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: sitting here talking to you. You're in a good place 357 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: and has this always been who you are as a 358 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: player or is this a good time for you in 359 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: terms of veteran you know, what's going on you're healthy. 360 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always been positive. 361 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: I've always you know, spoke to the media even when 362 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: you know I'm not playing well or I'm not playing 363 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: I've always you know, I had good I had a 364 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: good reputation with the media down the area, and I 365 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: had a good reputation with everybody down there because I 366 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: never was negative or I never you know, said it was, 367 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, play victim. 368 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: So this is always. 369 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nah, no, no, but it was it was 370 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,119 Speaker 3: easier for me because you know, I was always was respectful. 371 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: You know, I always gave the time of day, and 372 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: even when I wasn't doing really good, they helped me out, 373 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: you know. So it's just being like I said, it's 374 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: it's about being kind to people and that that always 375 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: helps in the long run, especially when when you're not 376 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: doing well or you're hurting. So that helped, you know, 377 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: they put put out good stories and I had good 378 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: people around me to you know, to uplift me. But 379 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: I always, like I said, you got to know who 380 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: you are as a person first before you go through this, 381 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: because it's a lot of ups and downs in football, man. 382 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: So if you don't know who you are, it's gonna 383 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: it's gonna it's gonna really challenge you. 384 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: So I knew the type of player I was. I 385 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: knew the type of person I was. 386 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: I knew that I had a good heart and I 387 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: wanted to play football, So I always knew that. Just 388 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: stay true to that. And and like you said, I'm 389 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 3: I'm gonna a really good place right now. I'm blessed 390 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: for sure, and I'm happy to be here. 391 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: The last thing we do, we call it the ozone five. 392 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: Five fast fun questions. Jordan Moois, what was your last 393 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: m watch? 394 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: We were talking about that. 395 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: Tipping you off now, yes, yeah, Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. 396 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: That's Emily in Paris, Okay, yeah on Netflix? 397 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: Got you your pregame song or artists or anything you 398 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: want to share? 399 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: Speared in the sky Okay. 400 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: I like that sport you would have played if it 401 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: hadn't been football. 402 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: If I would have been tall enough basketball. 403 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: Okay, you good. 404 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't tall enough. 405 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: Every guy in the locker room thinks you're the best 406 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: basketball player in the locker room. 407 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: They think I am. Oh yeah, Foy can play too, 408 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: can play. 409 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: Now? 410 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, can play too. Yeah. 411 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: You must see athlete must see athlete of all time. 412 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: Whoever comes to must. 413 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: See athlete, that's a good one. Bro. 414 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: I would have liked to see Diana must see athlete. 415 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: I think that's yeah. 416 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: He was. He was special. I didn't se him in 417 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: person until late but uh, person or people that you 418 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't be here without. 419 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: Uh my mother, my wife, are you my mother? Linda 420 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: for sure? Britt Brown okay, yeah, all right? 421 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 3: And Keisha Mackenzie yeah, and so those those people. I 422 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: don't think I'd be here without it. 423 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: You don't get here alone, not even close, even without 424 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: the injury. 425 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: Yea, I got you. 426 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis. I can't thank you enough. It's a busy 427 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: week on NFL game week, and to take the time 428 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: to do this, I appreciate it. Thank you for joining 429 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: you was on podcast. 430 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for having me