1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George and OORI 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: with you along with Archbishop bron fail and right. He's 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: got a couple of books out. One is called Diabolical 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Nightmares of Real Cases and Demonic Possession Told by the 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: Exorcist and also another one called Exorcist Secret Journal. His 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: website is linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com. All 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Ur chrishap how long does it take to prepare to 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: do an exorcism? Once you go through the steps you 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: just provided to us. 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: After the assessment is actually done, we could use we 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: could do the actual ritual almost immediately after that. 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 4: Of course, the issue is we have to make sure 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: that we are actually dealing with a demonic scenario. Instant 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 4: some point psychosis we could drive them further into their 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: their illness and that could drive the suicide. So the 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: assessment is essential and we have to we have to 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: do it early. Sometimes we just have to take our time. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: If they're not responding, that is, we have a lot 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: of third parties that we're counting on, such as outside physicians. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 4: If their family position is for some reason has the 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: hesitating in terms of submitting their report on their patients, 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: then that would definitely cause a problem. 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: We have to have that report. 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: And of course in our organization we have two psychiatrists 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: and what they do is they read the psychological report 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: and if it looks like it's a there's something there 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: that that that our attention should be focused on, then 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: then we take it to the next step. But after 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 4: the assessment, the ritual is just it can be done 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: or started within the first day, the first day after the. 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: Assessment with our using names because of confidentiality obviously, can 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: you share some stories with us on some of these experiences, 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: I can actually we. 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: And and may I also tell you that since I'm 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: semi retired so to speak, we have a podcast. And 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: it's interesting because on our podcast we ask people to 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: contact us if they have if they show signs of 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: demonica sometimes demonic possession, of demonic issues, whatever the case is. 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: And on our panel we have these we have psychiatrists 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: and we have three clergymen who are all exorcists, and 42 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: what we do is we give a preliminary assessment over. 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: The phone in our show and UH. 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: And that seems to help quite a few people. Then 45 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: we also help them by referring them to to other 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: services if we feel that it's not so much of 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: a demonic issue but rather something else. But yes, I could, 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: I could. 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: There are some stories with you if you like, Sure, 50 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: a couple of them. 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: And okay, but the one I really would like to 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: share with you is the one that This took place 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen and it was interesting because we did the 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: assessment on this family and one member in the family. 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: Were showing a real, super. 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: Interesting signs of demonic involvement where the individual was doing 57 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: unbelievable things and their body was kind of altered to 58 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: a point where their skin was a different texture, and 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: of course their hair color changed, their eyes change, their 60 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: behavior changes, and they become very violent at times. And 61 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: as this individual fell in that category, as a result, 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: we did an exorcism and in the ritual itself, it 63 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: took about i'd say about six hours, and in that time, 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: at the end of six hours, I was physically attacked 65 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: by an invisible entity. Now this may sound like way 66 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: out there, but I assure you there are many people 67 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: that could attest to the fact that were there at 68 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: the time. We had a room full of not only 69 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: people from our teams, but family members. So the room 70 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: was packed and I was in the center of the 71 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: room and everyone witnessed something that took place, and it 72 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: was very strange. It was a three heavy blows to 73 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: my left. 74 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: Side, to my side of my body. It felt like 75 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: I two by four. 76 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: Took my breath away and as a result, I healed over. 77 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: I did have an assistant that helped me immediately after 78 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: the ritual, I just had to go to the doctor. 79 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: I had to go to my family position. He recommended 80 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: to go to the emergency room, which I did, and 81 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 4: they held me there. They gave me some test various 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: cat scans, let's the whole nine works, and what they 83 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: found actually was quite interesting. They found a two sack 84 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: two leaders sack of blood that was wrapped around my heart. 85 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: And to this day, of course, the physicians have no 86 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: idea how I succumbed to this condition, and that was 87 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: the reason why I was having such difficulty breathing, because 88 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 4: the sack of blood was pressed up against my heart 89 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 4: and lung. The senate was very extremely, a very serious issue. 90 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: I was in the hospital for about thirty days and 91 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: I went through three procedures for them to remove that. 92 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 4: It's interesting because the stories that I could remember, all 93 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: the ones that I personally was involved where I could 94 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: either not only sense what was going on, but actually 95 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: feel the presence of something that is totally invisible. 96 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: And yet you know that it's all of of of 97 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: the scenario as to why you're there. 98 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: You're trying to to relieve a family member from these 99 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: symptoms and to do that. Of course, after the assessment, 100 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: we take our time, we do do the ritual, and 101 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: we do it with with of course, you know, support 102 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: with other clergy numbers. Uh. Sometimes you know, we have 103 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: two or three clergy at a time that will actually 104 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: do the ritual. And sometimes the rituals can take anywhere 105 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 4: from from a few hours, a few days to even 106 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: a few weeks. So it's important that you have a 107 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: team of of people who were were clergy and who 108 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 4: were appointed as as an exorcist. Now, the story that 109 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: you brought up about the about the little boy who 110 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: was going through this series of of exorcisms, there was 111 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: a number of priests that were involved in There wasn't 112 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 4: just one, there was about three of them, if I'm 113 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 4: not mistaken. And and so the three were they were 114 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: proba take turns in regards to if one would get 115 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: tired and tee, then the other one would take over. Normally, 116 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: in the ritual, it's a series of prayers and a 117 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: repetitious fashion, and you always have an assistant reading the responses. 118 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: So the priest would actually read the ritual and uh, 119 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: the his assistant would read the responses. And then there 120 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: will be a number of people that were present that 121 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: would either be holding the individual or there or the 122 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: individual would be tied to a uh, to a bed, 123 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: or to a chair or or somewhere where they where 124 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: they uh with the individual would not to strike out 125 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: and and uh and and assault one of our wordy 126 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: or or rovers in the room. Per say, it's it's 127 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: very uh. It can be a very frightening type of scenario. 128 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: But in the same token, after the after a few 129 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: hundred of these things, and after you've seen them, you've 130 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: seen just about incredible things that people literally turn into reptiles. 131 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: You know, they would resemble a reptile where you know, 132 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: the facial features would just basically disappeared, and then all 133 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: you see is this big snake. Uh, And it's like, 134 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: uh again, it's really totally unbelievable. But these are things 135 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: that you don't really hear about because you. 136 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: Know, let's face it, it's it's kind of horrifying. 137 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: Let's say, released what do they want. 138 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: They're trying to They will never really truly hurt you. 139 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: They will have you hurt yourself. They will drive you 140 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: to a point where you feel that you're totally hopeless. Uh, 141 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: your situation is hopeless, and therefore the only way out 142 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: would be maybe suicide or or causing sometimes kind of 143 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: self relation injuries of this type of thing. So it's like, 144 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: you know, it could be a very serious thing. The 145 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: whole purpose of the demonic is to is to try 146 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: to destroy God's creation. We are God's creations, and as 147 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: a result, they will do whatever they can to destroy 148 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: what God loves so dearly. God loves us all very 149 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: dearly and all the demonic darkness. All they want to 150 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: do is tear God's creational part and destroy it. And 151 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: to do that, they will convince. 152 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: Us that we are not worthy. 153 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: They will convince us and distract us from God's love, 154 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: and they will do horrible things and continue to do 155 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: it until it drives us to a point. Now, the 156 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: monic oppression. This is where the demon will actually kind 157 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: of play with your mind. It will implant a thought, 158 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: a real negative thought. And of course the individual, the victim, 159 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: has no idea that the demon has actually invaded their 160 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: thought process. However, as a result and in time, that 161 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: individual will go to a whole series of very negative experiences. 162 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: It could be anything from self relation to harming other 163 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: people and or or doing just terrible heinous things to 164 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: animals and and and living things. So as a result, 165 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: it could be very very very devastated, say leads to 166 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: the individual who is being. 167 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: Attact the demons a archbishop. Are they part of the 168 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: Luciferian side or are they humans who died that were bad? 169 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: What are they? 170 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: And demons? According to the scriptures, okay, demons are fallen angels. 171 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: They were all angels at one time. And uh and 172 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: as the scripture says, Lucifer was thrown out of heaven 173 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: because Lucifer wanted it all. Lucifer wanted to be like God. 174 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: God would not have that. And as a result, uh 175 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: he basically a guide basically through Lucifer out of heaven 176 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: and and Lsofer took one third of the angels with 177 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: him and so as a result, they fell down the 178 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: earth and they all they fallen angels are. 179 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 3: The actual demons. 180 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: People cannot turn into demons, even though you thinks of yeah, 181 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: the ways that some people act, but actually for behavior 182 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: does not mean that the person's a demon. Demons will 183 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 4: not do that because demons were created to be angels 184 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 4: and they are just simply fallen angels, nor the angels 185 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: as you will. And so as a result, they're in 186 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: our world and they're just rehabit over everything and over 187 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: God's creation. 188 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Do you find that a bad person, an evil person 189 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: can also be subjected to possession? 190 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 4: Oh yes, of course, especially if a person has an 191 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: issue with substance abuse or anything that would basically throw 192 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: them off there the normal path of living. Any substances 193 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: can actually do that, and then that individual will be 194 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: open to all kinds of dark behavior that and as 195 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: a result, the no doubt stevents would come in and 196 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: influence that individual and their lifestyle, and yeah, it could 197 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 4: be very devastating. 198 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: If the person the victim is a spiritual person, God 199 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: loving person, what are the odds of them getting attacked 200 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: and they have. 201 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: A really really good relationship with God and they're faithful 202 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: and they they they have this relationship on daily basis 203 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: of the odds are it's very very limited. I mean, 204 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: it would just not simply happen. 205 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: It's not it. 206 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: Would never really actually happen because the Holy Spirit is 207 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: within that person, and that person is is living their 208 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: life according to according to how God wants them. 209 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: To live and and. 210 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: And that's a good, righteous life and to love people 211 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: and to do good. If a person does not know God, 212 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: then you know, there's no real there's no real. 213 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: Uh criteria that they could follow. You know, they could 214 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 3: just go. 215 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: Right off the rails uh and have because of free will, 216 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: they could make a series of. 217 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: Bad choices in life, and as. 218 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: A result, they leave themselves open to all kinds of things, 219 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: not only diseases, but also dark spiritual things that could 220 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 4: actually take place within their lives. And you know, it's 221 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: my firm belief that every person that has ever walked 222 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: to earth will be touched by the darkness, that is, 223 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: a demonic entity will try to attack any person who's alive. Uh. 224 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: And and that goes for clergy as well. And so 225 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: as a result, you know, we have to truly be uh. 226 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 4: I was gonna say best behavior, We have to truly 227 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: do what's expected of us and what God expects us 228 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: to do in terms of obliving a good clean line. 229 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: What do you recommend to an individual or family members 230 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: who suspect that they or somebody in their family might 231 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: be subjected to a demonic possession. 232 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: What they need to do then, is they need to 233 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: have the individual assess. They do that by contacting their 234 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: whatever religious community they are. 235 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: That they feel comfortable with. 236 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: And then of course within this religious community, there should 237 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: be a clergy, a person who has been appointed to 238 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: to do just this, specializing in this. 239 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: Type of ministry, and then at that point then an. 240 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: Assessment should be done. That physical examination should be done. 241 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: The psychological evaluation should also be submitted to the assessment team, 242 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: and then the clergy would get involved with the very 243 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: and of the assessment. After the assessment's done, and after 244 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: the bishop of that jurisdiction decides that there is enough 245 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: enough evidence to move forward and to actually authorize a ritual, 246 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: then then that would be the process. The assessment has 247 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: to be done first, So they would, you know, in 248 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: these days, they could just go online and look for 249 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: a a church, religious organization that's locally within their community. 250 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: And they should contact them. 251 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: Not every religious organization subscribes to the to demonic possession 252 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: or or exorcisms or anything in that in that area, 253 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: so they would have to do their diligence to to 254 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: try to find an organization that would be able to 255 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: do that. 256 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: What misconceptions, Archbishop, would you like to pass around here 257 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: for our listeners that they may have confused themselves with extracisms. 258 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, the misconception, and this is this human nature. You know, 259 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: we're always trying to better ourselves, and those people who 260 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 4: are really really feel a need to do that may 261 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: decide to experiment with the occults, you know, maybe tample 262 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: with some of the forbidden of instruments that. 263 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: Are out there. 264 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: We give board are also one issue, but there are 265 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: a whole lot of other things that could actually faces 266 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: and put your mind and this type of an occult 267 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: type of scenario that be the case, and you could 268 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: lose touch of everything, the whole natural process and your protection, 269 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: your your divine protection would be totally lost because you're 270 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: venturing outside and looking for something that will enhance your 271 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: ability to do things, maybe to be are attracted to 272 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 4: other people. 273 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: Maybe a person. 274 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: May want to obtain a certain amount of wealth or 275 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: fame or whatever the situation is, and they can use 276 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: these instruments. It's not the I would not recommend anyone 277 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: to do that, because all these things are actually real. 278 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: I think this is this is a very serious subject. 279 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast a m every weeknight 280 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: at one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to 281 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: coastam dot com for more