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Speaker 2: So when you're insurance doesn't paper therapy or the code

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Speaker 3: Okay, So my wife works late and has this really

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Speaker 2: Okay, so she works a full day and then she's like,

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Speaker 1: Oh who is Sarah? Who is that?

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Speaker 5: Sarah is my manager?

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Speaker 1: She heard me on you guys the show yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I promise I am on my way toward Sarah.

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Speaker 1: She's coming. She's gotta do something important for man. We

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Speaker 2: I know them by their voice, I know where they work,

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Speaker 2: she's gonna be late to work, and Sarah, don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't fire, don't fire.

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Speaker 2: Her, okay, because like this, she's obviously a seventh member

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, so what do you think now?

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you really do just need a break. You wanna

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Speaker 2: Hey, what is going on? Are you driving a fork?

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Speaker 2: Cliff right now? You need to fuck son the plane?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Jay?

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Speaker 1: What is that person's name?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta I gotta go say have a good day,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be lace drop the kid.

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Speaker 2: She ain't coming today that she did honestly for her

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Speaker 1: Focus on the road. Liability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Jamie, you hey, how you doing? So you're

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know, Jamie, it's a little puzzling.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for your hour and a half drive, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not because we need you, we need you, we

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Speaker 2: There's got to be some compromise because this isn't sustainable.

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Speaker 5: Right, and she was doing it for years, he said

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Speaker 3: But you get old and you get tired, and this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, check on the love to nap here is it? Adeline?

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Speaker 4: Love you, love you Shore. You know, I didn't want

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Speaker 2: You know what, don't you worry about that? We got

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Speaker 2: something else for you. We got something else for you. You're

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Speaker 4: I just think I'm not, you know, Twitter, leave the relationship.

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Speaker 1: Well, I like how you think quality control.

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Speaker 5: As you said, you're.

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Speaker 2: Saying, you say, creep up, just keep up and see

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Speaker 2: sleeping in the car, you know what. Okay, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, thank you, have a good day, you too.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's going to start a huge fight. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I have a problem with it.

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Speaker 2: she's not doing anything. Well, now, now we've gone into

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Speaker 2: trust territory. Well you had to bring some flowers and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, like I planned a surprise dinner for us.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm here. Okay, okay, that's right.

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Speaker 2: All right, So really you're your private investigator, but just

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Speaker 2: Good Maggie, how are you doing? Good morning?

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Speaker 5: Good morning?

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Speaker 1: How are you great? Thanks for caring, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Stay or go.

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Speaker 2: Stay Okay, But you know, think this is a little strange.

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Speaker 5: It's the same as like if there's a couple who

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Speaker 5: That doesn't necessarily mean this infidelity, and that could be

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Speaker 2: I've heard of people doing stuff like this too, by

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Speaker 2: what point are you like, Okay, that's that's not productive.

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Speaker 2: I'm exhausted by the time I get home, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: and but no one accused them of cheating, all right.

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Speaker 4: And so this situation doesn't necessarily mean that that's what

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Speaker 5: She's just trying to recap before she has to drive

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Speaker 5: Can you back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you, Maggie, have a good day, you too,

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Speaker 2: all right, Daniella thinks do you think she's cheating? Danielle,

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Speaker 1: And and and just think it's normal.

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Speaker 2: It's a sudden change of behavior. Is it that this

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Speaker 2: is well, I got to sleep my car for two hours,

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Speaker 2: but I mean every day, that's a lot of cheating.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's yeah. She probably has a whole another family.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: I feel like if you starve by your relationship.

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Speaker 1: We don't got to go that far. I mean, now

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Speaker 6: Listen, if you care about your actual family and you're

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Speaker 6: you're tired out, look for something else. There's plenty of

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Speaker 2: In your car, And I don't we didn't get much

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Speaker 2: each other though. No, I hear you, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know what she does or if it's like a very

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Speaker 2: you know. I see now if she works at McDonald's

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Speaker 1: Yea, if you were at CBS, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, And but you're working the one it's in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: Right over here. You know, you do?

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Speaker 6: It is simple? Yeah, maybe it is simple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. We don't have all the information here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Danielle. I have a great day.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jen, you have a long commute as.

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Speaker 7: Well, I absolutely do.

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Speaker 1: And you're saying God, and you're saying an hour forty

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, but you're still saying go, even though you

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Speaker 7: I say, go a check out different alternative ways of commuting.

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Speaker 7: Maybe metro is a little bit faster, but sometimes you know, yeah,

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Speaker 7: you check the traffic before you go, if there's an

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Speaker 7: to be even longer. Sure the oddball night of I'm

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Speaker 7: going to go grab dinner. Rather sitting in traffic for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a strange thing to do every day,

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Speaker 7: Exactly And here's the thing, finally get closer to work. Like,

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Speaker 7: be a happy medium someplace in there for both of them.

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Speaker 2: Every night is if it were, hey, Tuesdays and Thursdays

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Speaker 2: But every day like I don't. That's a lot of

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Speaker 2: cheating every day. I'd be tired for cheating. Thank you, Jenn,

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Speaker 2: have a good day, tired from cheating. And then someone

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Speaker 2: you know, you might know about that, but don't cheat.

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Speaker 2: We're assuming two hours each way every day. Then then hey,

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Speaker 2: this isn't working for me because I don't see you

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Speaker 2: You're not leaving this job. You're totally dedicated to it,

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Speaker 2: if she's like, absolutely not, I can't do that, right, well,

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