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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of No

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Speaker 1: Country for Old Trends starring Javier bar trend Um. That

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Speaker 1: is a collabo between Johnny Davis. I think we might

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Speaker 1: have done No Country for Old Trends at some point,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we had the tag from Son

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Speaker 1: of al Borland on Twitter the movie with Javier bar

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Speaker 1: trend with a great hair do style icon. Anyways, I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by very special guest co host,

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Speaker 1: It's super producer Becca Robbas. What's up, Happy Monday, Happy,

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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. Um, great to have you here on this

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Speaker 1: one day before election day. Nobody knows shit. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: always always fun to try and do this show when

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Speaker 1: we're like, we don't know. Is the primary piece of

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Speaker 1: news that's truly as we'll talk about tomorrow. That is

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Speaker 1: the main takeaway that like that headline news coming from

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Speaker 1: the Polsters, we don't know ship. But let's start with

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Speaker 1: more important news because we have unconfirmed reports that Phoebe

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Speaker 1: Bridgers is engaged to Paul mescal who I asked, you,

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Speaker 1: do you know that band? Normal People? I'm old, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I do know the TV show. But to be fair,

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Speaker 1: normal People sounds like a fun band name, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there is a band called normal People that plays

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Speaker 1: like indie folk music. There you go. Anyways, they might

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Speaker 1: be engaged. There was an interview where an implication may

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Speaker 1: have been made. Goon. This was a really fun journey

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Speaker 1: to go on because as someone who is chronically online

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Speaker 1: a k A. I spend too much screen time on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I thought they've been engaged, Like I thought this was

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Speaker 1: like a while ago announced, But I guess when I

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Speaker 1: saw a go viral and TikTok a while ago, it

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Speaker 1: must have been that people realized they were dating, not

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Speaker 1: that they were engaged. And now it started circulating again

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Speaker 1: because people were upset that they were engaged. So who knows.

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Speaker 1: The indie community is quaking. Um, the people who love

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Speaker 1: foreign accents community is quaking. He has a good is

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Speaker 1: he's British or Irish? I feel like the show was

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Speaker 1: Irish A yeah, um yeah, he's got a hot accent.

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Speaker 1: He is like in a very like sex forward show

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people enjoyed, but he's not like

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Speaker 1: conventionally hot, which I feel like adds to his Pete

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Speaker 1: Davidson Ian, Yes, that's the second time, I've called it

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Speaker 1: davidson Ian, but I'm I'm gonna stick with it, um

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Speaker 1: davidson Ian appeal, you know, the sort of goblin goblin

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Speaker 1: mode kings um of current popular culture. But anyways, so people,

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Speaker 1: people on both sides are are hoping this isn't true.

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Speaker 1: The queer communities quaking. Phoebe Bridgers is bisexual, and I think,

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Speaker 1: um the women and or fem folks of the LGBTQ

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Speaker 1: community are sad that she's marrying a man. But you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know yet. We don't Again, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: All of this comes out to being that we simply

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Speaker 1: don't know that the internet got upset. That is on

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Speaker 1: the street corner at the location where the interview took place,

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Speaker 1: she's covering one ear and saying, Jack, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: actually getting reports that this this new story has fallen

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Speaker 1: through and may just be an implication that they're engaged.

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Speaker 1: So it's too tough to say at this point. But

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Speaker 1: we will be following, We will be running this story down.

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Speaker 1: I'll be keeping my close ear to the streets to

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Speaker 1: follow us here to the streets. Black Friday is trending

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Speaker 1: because Walmart's black Friday Savings events will be broken up

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Speaker 1: into three sales throughout November, and they start today Black Fridays.

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Speaker 1: That's so stressful a Today's literally Monday. Um yeah, I

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Speaker 1: am just like, what could you have on sale? Is

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Speaker 1: it because of the recession you're trying to clear inventory?

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Speaker 1: Is it that? Also there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, Like,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't see the desire for a sale anymore.

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Speaker 1: I think a broker version of myself was like, I

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Speaker 1: just like it stresses me out as an older person

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Speaker 1: but I cannot. I cannot be waiting for discount time.

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Speaker 1: It's too stressful. It is. It's very stressful. Um. It's

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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with Black Friday sales. There's just

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Speaker 1: crime in America on a regular basis. Yeah. Um, they

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Speaker 1: at one time there was a Toys r Us like shooting,

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Speaker 1: Just let us do it unanimously. And because it was yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't need to turn our clocks. Yeah, nothing can be

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Speaker 1: your vitamin D. But I need that extra Yeah, when

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Speaker 1: some TV. Carry Lake is trending the kind of surging

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Speaker 1: mega candidate in Arizona who apparently, within the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years was a gun despising local journalist who practice Buddhism,

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Speaker 1: and now she is a reality doubting Q cribbing mega

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Speaker 1: same thing as Trump. I mean, he's created a formula

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Speaker 1: off to many many heads and everywhere. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: we're back and R. I P to Aaron Carter um

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Speaker 1: who passed away this weekend. Recently we talked about his

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Speaker 1: song how I Beat Shack? Is that what it was called?

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Speaker 1: That's what it's called. But yeah, that's a song. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it was all that how Aaron Carter Beat Check?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, he died a super young I think they

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Speaker 1: said in his bathtub. And I don't know. I was

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Speaker 1: an Aaron Carter fan, like I I vividly remember Aaron

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Speaker 1: Carter was like my first real crush, Like I had

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Speaker 1: I think like many child stars were like stolen from

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Speaker 1: I think like millions and millions of dollars they like

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Speaker 1: whatever law is that states that child stars have to

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Speaker 1: he has had a very rough life, I think post

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Speaker 1: sad that, you know, the world kind of modeled him

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Speaker 1: into an early departure so recent pace Aaron Carter, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: truly brutal, and like the more we learn about this industry,

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Speaker 1: it's not just like young kids are have access to drugs.

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Speaker 1: That's often that they are like victims of horrible abuse.

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Speaker 1: If if there's not somebody who's actively they're protecting them

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Speaker 1: Like this is you are a parent, it is your

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Speaker 1: watch the Hillary Duff episode of Lizzie Acquire with um

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Speaker 1: Then he came back and said I want to do

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: You can find me and follow me at Beck's ramos,

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