1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: All about that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: about them high school queens, We'll take you for a ride, 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: and our comic girl sharing for the right teams. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Drama Queenslie of girl fashion, but your tough girl, you. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Could sit with us. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 4: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama Drawn the 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 4: Queens Drama Queens. 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 5: How are you doing? Enjoy We missed you last week. 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 4: I'm sorry I missed it last week, although I did 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 4: listen back to the to the episode you guys did, 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: and it was really fun to listen to while I 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 4: was making my I was making my lunch, my prepping 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 4: my meals. 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 6: For the week. 16 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 5: Was it okay that I accepted all of the compliments? 17 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 4: Yes, I appreciate I sincerely appreciate all of that. Okay, okay, cool, 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: Thanks for stepping in. Yes, something had to be said. 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 4: You can't just leave compliments floating out in the air 20 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 4: like that need to be gathered, So I appreciate you 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: gathering them from. 22 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: When you can't attend the ceremony. Someone has to get 23 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: your awards right. 24 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 5: That's it. 25 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 4: I had, Like I was just telling Rob, I wish 26 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: I wish I remembered. I wish I'd written down notes 27 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: because as I was listening through, I was like, oh, 28 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: I want to comment on this, and I want to 29 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: mention that. And then you know the big lie that 30 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: we tell ourselves that we're going to remember things that 31 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: we don't write down after a certain age. I don't 32 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 4: understand what happens to my brain. But yeah, so I 33 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: didn't write them down, except I do remember that I 34 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: wanted to put my hat in the ring for the 35 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 4: listener question about. 36 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 5: Snacks, which is say more yeah she said. 37 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: The question was she had a snack where the calories 38 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: didn't count, and I was like, oh, I want to 39 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: do this one. Yeah, so bread for me too, or 40 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 4: cheese that my first thought was cheese, which I would 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: have expected it to be bread, But I'm definitely going 42 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: to go cheese because there's so many different kinds of 43 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: cheeses and they all fit on so many. 44 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: They can be deserved cheeses. It can be a cream cheese. 45 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: Just let me ask a question to someone who's not 46 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 5: a big cheese conass or can you sit down with 47 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 5: a block of cheese the way you can sit down 48 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 5: with a fresh loaf of bread and pretty much just 49 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 5: house it. You can, wow, yes, yes you can. 50 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 51 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: I don't tend to go for blocks of cheese. If 52 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: I was going to do that would probably be like 53 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 4: a little wheel or something that's maybe a softer cheese. 54 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: For me, old ball of Barada broken open, yeah, olive oil, salt, pepper, crackers, 55 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: tomatoes if they're in season, the whole thing. 56 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: Here's the one thing I will say in this discussion 57 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: that I think bread has over cheese. Like so if 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: you just described an amazing thing, but it is leaning 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 5: on the crutch of crackers, whereas if you get a 60 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: fresh loaf of bread, you can just eat that bad 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 5: boy all by itself. 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you said like half a 63 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: loaf in the morning and half a sour dough in 64 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: the evening. So I was like, yes, that sound that's 65 00:02:59,320 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 4: all I need. 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: It's really all I And to your point, Rob, bread 67 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: only gets better with things, but the things are unnecessary. 68 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I would struggle to eat a whole wheel of cheese 69 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: without other. 70 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: Things way to hit that soft h wheel. 71 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: But bread, I mean god, it's like if you have 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: a perfect loaf of bread, especially fresh, still warm and 73 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: a little butter, preferably for me, a little mald and salt. 74 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: You're done. 75 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it, you guys. 76 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: My mouth is watering. I need us to talk about 77 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: work because now I'm spamished. 78 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: Oh well, what an episode this one was. I'll read 79 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: the thing. Okay, we have, we have, we have, Season nine, 80 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: Episode nine, Every Breath is a Bomb. Air date March seventh, 81 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: twenty twelve. I actually think this episode is titled Broken Systems, 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: but we'll get there. Brooke and Julian take a new take, 83 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: new measures to protect their family skills, Help's mouth get 84 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: to a turning point, Chase forces faces a consequences for 85 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: defending Chuck, while Clay reaches a new understanding with Logan. 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: Pete Kolski directed this. 87 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: Ian Biggins wrote it, Ian Biggins sounds like he should 88 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 5: be in the Shire and Friends with Frodo, doesn't He agreed? 89 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 6: He does. 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: Ian Biggins tis for you episode, But we really loved it. 91 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 92 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: He did a great job. 93 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: Well, this episode had a lot going on. 94 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: Joy. 95 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 5: Do you want to explain why you think it should 96 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 5: be called Broken Systems? 97 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 98 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: Well it felt like the theme to me. I mean, 99 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: we've got the police letting brook Down. We've got the 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: government system letting down Chase and Chuck. 101 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 6: We've got the uh oh, what's the other one, Clay Brooke. 102 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 4: Oh, well, obviously the police and the systems are letting 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: down Dan and Haley. They can't find Nathan, and nobody 104 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: seems to be really looking for him, and just like 105 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 4: feels like everywhere people are turning for help from the 106 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: people that are supposed to be helping them, nobody's doing anything. 107 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 5: Before I forget towards the end of the episode, the 108 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 5: scene with Chase having his sort of tribunal with the 109 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 5: Air Force peeps, the lead guy. Was he not our 110 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: head of transpo or something? He was? He was one 111 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 5: of our crew, wasn't he? Was he? He was so 112 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 5: familiar when I was like, I'm pretty sure was he 113 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 5: a transpot camp? 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: And he just goes back in there. Because I remember, 115 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: to your point, thinking oh my gosh, and then thinking 116 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: I'd remember when I watched the episode, and now that 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: it's the day we're recording, I don't. 118 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: We were pulling a lot from our own because when 119 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: one of the plumbers was Pekowalski's son, Yeah, which was 120 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: so fun. 121 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: The middle one, the second plumber to walk in the 122 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: handsome young guy. 123 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so it was. 124 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: It was really fun getting toward the end because we 125 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: did sort of figure out all these little places to 126 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: put crew and friends and family as little easter eggs 127 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: as the show was wrapping up. 128 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 6: But I have to go back. 129 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 5: And look, Yeah, it's super memorable. Face. Well, then let's 130 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: go back to the beginning because that first scene I 131 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 5: had a laugh out loud moment and what was not 132 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: a funny scene, which is Chase in the back of 133 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: the police car, Chuck and his mom on the porch. 134 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: But it's it killed me because Chase is handcuffed in 135 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 5: the back of the police car, covered in another man's blood. So, 136 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: but I'm not the one you should be arresting. And 137 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, sir, you just beat a man with a 138 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: tire iron so hard his blood is covering you. You 139 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 5: should definitely be the one getting arrested. Like, I understand 140 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: the moral point of your argument, but you gotta look 141 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: at the visuals. 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they arrest the data as well, because I didn't 143 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: see that guy in the back. 144 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: Of a car. No, sure he was. Did he get 145 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: escreed out in a stretcher? 146 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: I didn't see him in evidence anywhere. But it was 147 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: interesting to your point. It's almost like you can start 148 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: to trace where people lose the plot little bit because 149 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Chase is sitting there going, no, I did the heroic thing, 150 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: and it's like, but you tried to do a heroic thing, 151 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: but what you actually did was assault and batteries, sir, 152 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: So like, yes, you were defending a kid, but you 153 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: still beat the shit out of somebody. And it's a 154 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: weird suspension of reality when you're so on the side 155 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: of one character that you start to lose the moral core. 156 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: I missed the scene in the previous episode. Do they 157 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: show Chase like launching into this guy us and is 158 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: he just standing in the street or is this guy 159 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: like actually in the act and he's defending. 160 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 5: No, he's not beating him, because what happens is Chase 161 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: goes to walk up and Chuck comes running out of 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 5: the house. So it's like Chuck is trying to like 163 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 5: flee a scary situation, and then you see Chase walk in, 164 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 5: and then through the silhouette of the living room curtains 165 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 5: in the window, you just see Chase like full extension 166 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: all the way back and coming down violently multiple times. 167 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: It's almost vaudeville in almost silly, but it's also, to 168 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Rob's point, so violent. 169 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so's he's not interrupting a moment of violence and 170 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: trying to get. 171 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 6: This guy to stop. 172 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: Correct, Okay, because I just. 173 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: Want to understand if this is not if this is 174 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: like a defense situation, or if this is just like 175 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: he's angry and lost his head and went in after 176 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: this guy. 177 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: It's an enough is enough situation? I think. 178 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: I also think the thought was I think the reason 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: the writers wrote it the way they did, having Chuck 180 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: running out of the house. What they're saying is this 181 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: kid is being beaten and manages to like squirrel out 182 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: of his dad's grip, and Chase is coming up as 183 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Chuck is coming out of the house, and they both 184 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: know what's going on. And I will say I appreciate 185 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: that the writers the directors didn't force Michael May to 186 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: get beat up on camera by an adult. I'm glad 187 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: we didn't show that. I don't think violence, particularly again children, 188 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: should ever be shown in that manner. And so it's like, 189 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: I get it, But to your point, it also puts 190 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Chase in a more gray area because what you see 191 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: through the shadow of the curtain is so aggressive. And 192 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: then to Rob's point, they really put a hat on 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: a hat, splattering blood on his face like he was 194 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Jackson Pollock who'd been like painting on drugs for two days. 195 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: I was like, it's so much blood that it is. Yeah, 196 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: it kind of makes you giggle because it's so ridiculous 197 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: and it's uncomfortable. 198 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 5: And let's just assume they're a normal family and the 199 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: dad was fully clothed. If blood is being splattered, it's 200 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: going to be from his face or head. Yes, so 201 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 5: I guess to answer the question of why we didn't 202 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 5: see the dad, you're not walking away from that, so 203 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 5: he's either laying there in the floor or he's been 204 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: stretched away. But yes, just the irony of Chase has 205 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: a blood soaked shirt, splattered face and he's like, you're 206 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: resting the wrong guy, and. 207 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: It's like, sir, not in this situation. 208 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 5: His intent was gold a plus, but his execution was 209 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 5: a dnus. 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: I like that. That's a great way to put it. 211 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: I guess he could have been a little more like Dan, 212 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: a little more thoughtful and methodical, gone and found the 213 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: guy later. 214 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's the thing. Very impressed with Dan and I 215 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: like coming, you know, sort of full circle with our 216 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: theories about who's behind Nathan's kidnapping. It's kind of interesting 217 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: to be the fly on the wall in the car 218 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: with Haley and Dan because Dan is explaining everything he 219 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: knows to you, right like he's letting you in on 220 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: the research. And this is what I figured out, and 221 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: this is how I kind of got to the bottom 222 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: of it. And in an interesting way, while he's telling 223 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: you these details, it's showing the audience. Maybe Dan is 224 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: a good guy, you know, maybe he did just get 225 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: caught up in the wrong moment. Maybe he really was 226 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: just threatening Clay's drug dealer and all this other stuff happened. 227 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: It still leaves that little question mark for me of 228 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: did Dan getting involved in the Clay of it all 229 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: really highlight you know, Nathan to these people. 230 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: So to your point, though, Sofie, let me ask you 231 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 5: a question. First of all, it was so fun watching 232 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: Haley Haley pull a Jennifer Garner alias and dress up 233 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: like a street walker. That was fun, But was that 234 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: necessary because all you ended up doing was just getting 235 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: him to walk outside and then Dan jumps him, and 236 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 5: I kind of just felt like totally. You put your 237 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: son's wife in a very uncomfortable situation. It seems like 238 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: pretty unnecessarily to just grab a guy behind a dumpster 239 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: in broad daylight and beat him to death and kidnap him. 240 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was Haley's This was her plan, right. So 241 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: she goes to Dan and he's like, I'm just gonna 242 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 4: he cox. He's got the gun, and he's like, I'm 243 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: gonna go tell this guy what's up. And she's like, 244 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: you can't just walk in there. 245 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: With the gun. And he's like, do you have a 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 6: better plan. 247 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: She says yes, So yeah, this is Haley's plan, but 248 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: it does feel extremely superfluous. 249 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: It's really like it could have been at a six 250 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: and they took it to a ten. 251 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,479 Speaker 6: Yeah. 252 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: I mean I had fun, don't get me wrong, but 253 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: like the whole thing of that's it. I mean I 254 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: really thought they were going somewhere with this. Watching it 255 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: back because I didn't remember, I was like, oh, wow, 256 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: this is a whole thing that they've concocted. I mean, 257 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: that's so in the middle of the day, Like, how 258 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: easy is that to just get some guy to like 259 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: walk behind a dumpster. I don't know, it just didn't 260 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: seem necessary. 261 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe maybe the idea is if these 262 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: are guys as as they've said, as the warehouse guys 263 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: have said, right with if the audience knows that these 264 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: dudes in this crew run drugs and prostitutes, which I 265 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: mean essentially means I would imagine they're involved in some 266 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of human trafficking, which is pretty grotesque. Like knowing 267 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: what we know about them, is Haley thinking like, oh, well, 268 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: I've got to be dressed up like a sex worker, 269 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: not just like a hawk girl at a bar, Like 270 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: you could have just as easily been in a haltertop 271 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: and a pair of jeans and had that guy staring 272 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: at you. But it's like the haltertop and the miniskirt 273 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: in the boots, like it's the thing. 274 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 6: The whole thing. 275 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: He also doesn't know who what Haley looks like. 276 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 6: You're telling me this. 277 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: Guy wife of the guy that you can she is 278 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: a pop star, she's a rock star or whatever she 279 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: went on tour. 280 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: She's got you know, she's like a local celebrity. Now, 281 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: as you were mentioning about the holding in the airport 282 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: with Lucas, yes people recognize her. You're telling me this 283 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: guy does not know that the wife of the kidnapped 284 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: person looks like a Actually the fact that she's a 285 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: local celebrity. 286 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: What well, And this is what doesn't make sense about 287 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: our show. Sometimes, the like hodumdum like idiocy of this 288 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: cop being like a small town man sounded like the 289 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: guy was hungry. 290 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 5: People are going to run into. 291 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Each other like and then the other side of the 292 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: scales of our show is that Nathan's an NBA player, 293 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: Haley's a rock star. Book is like a multi billion 294 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: dollar corporation, which you know she's lost now, but still 295 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,479 Speaker 1: like famous. 296 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: What like what do you mean? 297 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: It's like, are we in a teeny tiny small town 298 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: or are we like exceptionally famous people. I don't get it. 299 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,479 Speaker 5: We're both Sophie Gosh. 300 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: You know. 301 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: In Haley's defense, maybe listen, it's been a nightmare of 302 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: a couple of days for her. Yes, that would have 303 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: made more sense. But maybe she was just like, I 304 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: want to get drunk during the daytime, and this is 305 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: the perfect She just wanted to blow off some steam. 306 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 5: She wanted her escapism. So she's like, I'm gonna just 307 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tart myself up to the nine. I'm gonna 308 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: catch a little buzz while it's like lunchtime, you know. 309 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I do just love though that. 310 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: It's the It's kind of the inverse of when we 311 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: did our Superhero episode when I had to beg you 312 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: to dress up with me and then you bring the boots, which, 313 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: by the way, are basically the boots we wore in 314 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: the Superhero episode. It must have been, and it's like 315 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: you Haley comes to see brook and is like, dress 316 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: me up like a hooker from the nineties, and Brooks 317 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: like got it all over it. Let me whip you 318 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: up a metallic top. 319 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 5: Yes, that would have been an incredible montage. Also, you 320 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: know what I was thinking to Joy as I watched 321 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: the scene, I thought, just good for Joy, Like, you're 322 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: such a team player because you had had Maria what 323 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: four months before this scene? 324 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess so. 325 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: And they're like, hey, you just had your body totally 326 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: given away to another human being for a year. How 327 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 5: about we put you in the tightest pleather skirt and 328 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 5: boosty it like it was such an outfit. I'm sure 329 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: that could make you feel so vulnerable and like here 330 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 5: you had just had a baby and you were a 331 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 5: gamer and you did it. 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: Thanks Rob, Thank you so much. Yeah, I really appreciate that. 333 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: I remember that being a thing. I was like, oh boy, 334 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: this is going to be this is going to be interesting. 335 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: But it turned out okay. You know, I think they 336 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: shot it really well and it looked great. 337 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Honestly, Rob started it, so I'll follow up with my thought. 338 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: When you like sidled up to the bar and leaned over, 339 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: I was like, use the breastfeeding for the people. Joy. Yeah, 340 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: I think this is incredible. You looked amazing and I 341 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: loved that you literally just like walked up and put 342 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: yours on the bar. I was like, you do it. 343 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: Listen, I don't have fass anything. Okay, I know it. 344 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It was so great. 345 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: Thanks. Oh yeah, that was fun, but definitely uh but 346 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: to your point, Rob, I agree, it was a bit strange. 347 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: There was a lot about it that, you know, there's 348 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 4: so much that enters into the realm of camp and 349 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: unintentionally that we have to keep. You were saying this 350 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: in the last episode, so about us riding the shark, 351 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: the bridle on the shark. 352 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: You know, Rob said riding the shark and then I 353 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: got the bridle. 354 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right, okay, yes, so okay, rob this 355 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 4: oh yeah, you were floating your your idea about how this, 356 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: how this goes down on our show, and we do, 357 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 4: we do have perfected this riding the shark thing. But 358 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: the camp elements of like him are guy what's his name, 359 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: our guy Dmitri. You know, he's bending over to fix 360 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: something on his bike and his gun is just fully 361 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: hanging out of the back of his pants in the 362 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: middle of the street in the middle of the day. 363 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 6: Like, okay, that's really a lot. 364 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: And then we've got Dan beating this guy up in 365 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 4: the middle of the day behind a bar, which what 366 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 4: in the middle of the day. When then we get 367 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: him into a warehouse and this is now why we 368 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: understand he got a sound stage so that he can 369 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 4: torture someone. Yeah, in the sound stage where he makes 370 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: his hot dogs on his grill. 371 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 5: Also, I think, okay, I'm sure because it's called a 372 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: sound stage that the majority of our viewers have never 373 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: been in a sound stage, so they just go, oh, 374 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 5: sound must not escape it. Sound escapes it. So the 375 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 5: man is screaming bloody murder like you will hear that 376 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: outside the stage. So it was also odd that I 377 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 5: was like not like take him somewhere in the woods, 378 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 5: you know. But it's like the sound stage doesn't mean 379 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: it sound proof exactly. 380 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: Occasionally, actually sound stages make sound worse, like when we'd 381 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: have crazy torrential rain and have to hold because I 382 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: mean it sounded like we were inside of a popcorn popper. 383 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 4: Airplanes, we were right next to the airport. We'd have 384 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 4: to pause for airplanes all the time. 385 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact, listen, civil engineers, where you at? Because 386 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: the fact that somebody built a movie studio across the 387 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: street from the airport, just like yeah, knock knock, is 388 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: anybody home? How could this have been the choice? 389 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 5: Did you guys ever shoot at STU Seagull Studios in 390 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 5: San Diego? 391 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: Wait? What? 392 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: No? 393 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 5: I did two things down there. It's really did like Veronica, 394 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 5: mars and a bunch of other things. But it literally 395 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: shares space with They like leased out half of the 396 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 5: area too, It's like the Marines. So there would be 397 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: days where they would be practicing helicopter touchdowns, which is 398 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: literally flyover at land flybacks. So you would have a 399 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 5: twelve hour day that you would lose, like no joke, 400 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: an hour and a half to holding for helicopters. Oh 401 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 5: so yeah, it was to your point. So if it 402 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: was just like whoever designed this clearly didn't care about 403 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: efficiency or no how sound works. 404 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 405 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: I wonder if the airport was even there, because didn't 406 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 4: Capridge Junior, Frank Capra or Caper Junior like start the studio, 407 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 4: which would have been a long time ago. 408 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but I think it was in like 409 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: the sixties. There was an airport there? 410 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 6: Oh there was? Yeah, yeah, so weird. 411 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: It's also interesting to me everyone at home is like, okay, guys, 412 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much. On the topic of things that 413 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: are extreme, the fact that Brooks, convicted not just stalker 414 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: but assaulter, yeah, is allowed to work across the street 415 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: from her. It drives me crazy because listen, it's it's 416 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: a I understand that it's a great device for the 417 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: discomfort that she can't escape this person, but that's literally 418 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: not how the law works. 419 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: So actually, this is one of the things I was 420 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 4: wondering because I mean, I think there are there are 421 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: a lot of broken systems, particularly for women and their abusers. 422 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's huge problems with the legal system in 423 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: that card. So is there an implied restraining order do 424 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: you know something about this that we don't know that 425 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 4: there's an implied restraining order when some or a very 426 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 4: literal restraining order usually put in place. Yeah. 427 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're asked to speak at a parole 428 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: hearing for someone who assaulted you, yeah, it's because you're 429 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: giving a victim impact statement, so you are registered as 430 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: a victim. And listen, we haven't seen this on the show, 431 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: but by the way the law is supposed to go. Yeah, 432 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Brooke has a restraining order against this person, and you know, 433 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: civil restraining orders usually last for ten years, or criminal 434 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: restraining orders rather. So it's just so weird to me 435 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: that then this police officer is like, oh, he said 436 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: he didn't know it was your place, and you know, 437 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: he called me to let me know, and it's like, dude, 438 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: it's the same place where he beat the shit out 439 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: of her. It used to be her store and now 440 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: it's her and her best friend cafe. Like yeah, and 441 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: to your point, Joy, we've seen this. I mean, women 442 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: who go through domestic violence or you know, stalking, or 443 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, partner or non partner violence like this absolutely 444 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: don't get treated the way they should. They don't get 445 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: protected the way they should if they're believed exactly right 446 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: in the first place. But the crazy part of this 447 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: is to me is like this guy did go to 448 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: jail for this, yeah, and everybody's acting like it's no 449 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: big deal. And I'm like, ah, she's actually one of 450 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the ones who did get believed. 451 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 452 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: And it's also this, we don't this this show doesn't 453 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: take place in New York or Detroit, where there's a 454 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: lot of crime and there are a lot of things 455 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 5: happening to people, like a lot of people. This is 456 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 5: Tree Hill. It's a small town. So a man breaking 457 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: into a store and beating a woman very badly, that's 458 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 5: a huge thing. 459 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: And she's a celebrity, a famous woman in town, and 460 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: she's like a local hero. 461 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 5: And so it's odd that in a small town where 462 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 5: typically you would think that would be under a like 463 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: a micro microglass, no microscope. Yeah, and like and they 464 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 5: would be like overreacting, if anything. They're having like this 465 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 5: big city reaction of like, well, you know, he's got 466 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 5: to eat. It's like what. 467 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: It's this storyline makes me feel so claustrophobic. 468 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Me too. 469 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: It's just the because it's so real. I mean, I 470 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: don't know about the restraining order thing in the element, 471 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: but the element of like of coercive control and how 472 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: someone can harm you, abuse you, whether it's psychological or physical, 473 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: and then whether they've paid their time or not that 474 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: they can still walk around. And the way that he's 475 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: behaving with right, because he's making her think she's the 476 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: crazy one. 477 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 6: He's behaving in this way. 478 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: That's like, you know, everything in your body is telling 479 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: you this person has ill will toward me, they want 480 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 4: to harm me again in some way, but everything on 481 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: the surface looks perfect, so nobody's going to do anything 482 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: about it. And I just wanted to crawl out of 483 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: my skin. It was, Yeah, it really hit home for me. 484 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: It was just tough to watch. 485 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it drives me crazy for the same reasons. And 486 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: you know what's interesting to me, Rob now that you're 487 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: saying that, it's like it's making no shock here because 488 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I memorize statistics for weird reasons, like I don't understand 489 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: my own brain. But like eight of the ten states 490 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: where women go through the most violence aren't like the 491 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: states with those big cities you're talking about. They actually 492 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: are more like quote unquote rural states to begin with. 493 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: And so part of me is like, oh, maybe maybe 494 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: the thing that feels so ridiculous to me about the 495 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: way these cops are reacting to what Brooke is saying 496 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: is actually frustratingly more accurate, you know, because this is 497 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: what women typically go through. They don't get believed and 498 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: they get told like, well, once he tries to kill you, 499 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: we can do something. Once there's an attempt on your 500 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: life again, we can. 501 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: Do reasonable, Like we understand why you'd be a little paranoid. 502 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: Of course this person assaulted you, but look, he's paid 503 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: his time. He just needs a regular job, like you 504 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: don't need to be hysterical. 505 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they make you feel crazy about it. And 506 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: then then I think the craziest part of it is 507 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: you see, not that that's like where this is going, 508 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: but then you do see with women who fight back, 509 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, joy to your point, Like with all the 510 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: things we know about how true these situations are. So 511 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: often the women that fight back, who do the stand 512 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: your ground, who like who go out and get a 513 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: gun and do all the things that they tell you 514 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do, then they go to jail. 515 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: Or yeah, or they look crazy to the people in 516 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: their community because everybody just wants everything to be super 517 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: nice and easy. Let's just believe that everything's nice and okay. 518 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of crazy and maybe part of what 519 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: makes me feel to use that word that you used, 520 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: because it's so accurate. The thing that makes me feel 521 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: so claustrophobic about this, I can I can separate the 522 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: two like certainly from my own personal experience, and then 523 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: watching it happen on screen is the way TERA's behaving 524 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: because not only to have a man like a police officer, 525 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: be like okay, little lady, but to have another woman 526 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: look at you and go good when when when? When? Like, 527 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: it's so upsetting and even that she's still playing her 528 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: competitive thing and that brooke looks at her and is like, 529 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: you're not listening to me, like please, and for you 530 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: and everyone else, this man is dangerous and she's just 531 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: like great, makes it even better for me to make 532 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: you squirm. It's like an injury on an injury, if 533 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: that makes sense, Yes it is. 534 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: I was thinking about this because that's seen my mind. 535 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 5: First of all, she's a straight up sociopaths. 536 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 6: We don't even know why. 537 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: Is it literally just because she wants her cafe to 538 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: do well she blows into town. We don't know anything 539 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: about her motives. What the hell I. 540 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 5: Don't see I don't think we they haven't laid enough 541 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 5: groundwork for that to be the case, because we really 542 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 5: haven't seen her like taking any pride really in it 543 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 5: or like they've told us nothing equity in our cafe exactly. 544 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: So that's what Like, Okay, obviously Xavier is so dangerous 545 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 5: and such a threat, and obviously the kidnappers are very dangerous. 546 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 5: But it's like you can almost explain away the kidnappers though, 547 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: like they are in it for money, Like their actions 548 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: are still dangerous and scary, but like they are just 549 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 5: like profiteering, right, But Tara and Xavier are kind of 550 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: in a group of their own where it's like it's 551 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 5: like sociopathic behavior. It's unpredictable, and it's that's kind of 552 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: that's like the scariest kind though, because at least, like you, 553 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 5: like the kidnappers, there's an angle, like they just want money, 554 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 5: so they're going to do whatever is going to yield 555 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 5: the most money. When Tara after that scene, I'm like, 556 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 5: she's truly a psychopath. 557 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a psychological torment. Yes, what she's doing and 558 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 4: it's all for the end goal I guess, of getting 559 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: Brooke to leave and getting her out. So it's this 560 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: is another way that really sick people try and get 561 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 4: what they want if they don't know how to take 562 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: it by force or they feel like they'll they'll get 563 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: in trouble, they'll suffer some consequences they don't want to 564 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: have to suffer by taking something by force. Then they 565 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: that's coercion. Then they start to try and control the 566 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: situation with this like psychological torment. 567 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 6: It's so awful. 568 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: But it wasn't even like she had a cafe going 569 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 5: and you guys opened a cafe street. Yeah, she chose 570 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 5: this tiny town. 571 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: She chows the. 572 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: Spot across the street from you. It just that's what 573 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 5: makes her look even crazier is that there appears to 574 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 5: be no rationale for why she is going just balls out, gasly, menacing, destructive. 575 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, I wish we were getting some 576 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: motivation because Chelsea plays her so well, but I don't 577 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: understand why she's being asked to play these things, Like 578 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: why is Tara, to your point, the kind of person 579 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: who goes, I'm going to move in across from a 580 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: beloved cafe from a cultural institution in this small town 581 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: and try to ruin them. I'm I'm going to date 582 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: a rock star and then sleep with his best friend 583 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: behind his back, Like, who is this person? She seems 584 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: like an She's like an archetype of a femme fatale 585 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: that like an eight year old boy would come up 586 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: with or a twelve year old boy, which then makes 587 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: me go like how old is our bouse at this point, 588 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: like forty eight? Like, bro, are you okay? 589 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 590 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: And if she's gonna be this person, give her a reason, 591 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: give us, give us like some juice, make it make 592 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: sense so we can we can expect crazier and crazier 593 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: from her. 594 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, even just being a sociopath, which she is absolutely 595 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: and just obsessed with needing to get her way in 596 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: every situation and creating situations so that she can get 597 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: her way. But even that, we still need a reason 598 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 4: for her in the show to be doing that. There's 599 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 4: just there's no backstory for the support of the show, 600 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: Like I'm fine to have a sociopath, but we need 601 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: to know why why? 602 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 5: You know, it would actually be enough if even in 603 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 5: that scene, if she had been like do you remember 604 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 5: such and such clothing line and you're like what and 605 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 5: she's like, yes, that was mine and it went out 606 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 5: of business. One You're like, even that would be like, oh, 607 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: she has an axe to grind. 608 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: That design you stole that, you're a victorious stole that 609 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: you didn't know Victoria stole and you used it and 610 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: it became a big thing and it put her out 611 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 4: of business. 612 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 5: Like anything. 613 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, even it could have been like 614 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: I applied for a job at closed Her Bros. And 615 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: was told like Victoria told me, I was a shoe in. 616 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: I quit my job, I moved to New York and 617 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: then you guys hired someone else. And yeah, it could 618 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: be like I never even saw you what, I never 619 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: saw your resume? What are you talking about? Like something? 620 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: But there's just no reason for her to hate this 621 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: other woman so much. 622 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 4: I wonder if Chelsea ever asked if any of us 623 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: are still in touch, it would be interesting to find out, 624 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: like what what she would have Because she's the actress 625 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 4: having to play the part. She would have had to 626 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: ask these questions and get answers about it. 627 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 5: Yes and no. Because it's a super successful show. She's 628 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 5: coming on for the last season. I can see her. 629 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 5: I can understand if I was in that spot maybe 630 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: being like an I don't want to rock the boat 631 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 5: thing and I'll just sure, I'll just play it. But 632 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: I wonder because I listen, that's those are the kind 633 00:31:51,800 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: of questions you'd be asking, like why am I doing this? 634 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: I will say to the episode's credit different than this, 635 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 5: we actually got a lot of questions answered with Clay 636 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 5: and Logan, which. 637 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: I was I'm so excited to talk finally, and that 638 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: was a highlight of the episode for sure. How did 639 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: you feel about all that? 640 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 5: Rub I thought was great, and I think that is 641 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 5: largely due to Pierce, because every time we cut to 642 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 5: him and his little earnest eyes looking up at Clay, 643 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm there, I'm on board, I'm emotionally invested exactly. 644 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 5: He's so open that you don't really have to do 645 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 5: much else in a scene with him, and so I 646 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 5: thought the stuff. I thought it all worked, and I 647 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 5: thought it was great that he told Clay no at 648 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: the end. I didn't remember that. I didn't, like I said, 649 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 5: I only remember how we end, like the ending of 650 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 5: Sofa's episode that she directed, But I don't recall the 651 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 5: path to get there. So I liked that it wasn't 652 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: easy for Clay shouldn't be. I liked that we got 653 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 5: clarity as to where he's been for six years and 654 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: why this whole charade is unfolding the way it is. 655 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 5: The One thing I will say that was funny, and 656 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 5: they at least acknowledged it was when Clay and Logan 657 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: are talking outside and for some reason, the therapist and 658 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 5: Quinn are like ten feet away watching, which which is fine, 659 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 5: but then just apropos of nothing. The therapist is like, 660 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: he loves you, you know, he loves you, And in 661 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 5: my head immediately I'm like, that's such a violation. What 662 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 5: are you doing? And then he's like, I just violated 663 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 5: patient doctor confidentiality. But I'm pretty sure you knew it anyways. 664 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 5: I'm just like, what are we friends? Now? 665 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 6: We're all friends? 666 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 4: Oh? 667 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 668 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: It was so weird. 669 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: It was like, Okay, I loved I really also did 670 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: love this storyline in this episode in particular, But it 671 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: was funny to me when Clay, when you were explaining 672 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 4: to Quinn the truth of of who Logan is, and 673 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: she says, are you sure? 674 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 6: Are you sure? 675 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 5: Are you sure? 676 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about the practicality of that line, like yes, yes, 677 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 4: he's sure. There's no there's no way he's going to 678 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 4: be explaining any of this to you. I don't know, 679 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 4: maybe it was just dumb to me. I was listening 680 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 4: to this like, oh, I wish I wish they had 681 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: cut that line for her. That just seemed like such 682 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 4: a uh it's such a girl, like a like a 683 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: caricature girlfriend line like that, what are we going to do? 684 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 5: Can I tell you what I see? I didn't bump 685 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 5: on that at all. I hear what you're saying, though, 686 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 5: But I think because to me it is that is 687 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 5: such an absurd, out of left field statement from Clay 688 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 5: that she's like, whatever it is, we're gonna be okay, 689 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 5: and he's like, I have a son I forgot about 690 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 5: for six years. That is bonkers. So I think I 691 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 5: totally except any person just going are you sure, because 692 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 5: that is just so absurd to say. 693 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 6: Okay, fair enough, yeah, that's good. 694 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 4: Well, but let me let me give your flowers too, 695 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 4: Because that scene where you were explaining to Logan who 696 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: you are. I got so emotional. I was on my 697 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 4: treadmill with my ten pound or whatever, the twenty pound 698 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: weight best. And I'm just walking watching this episode and 699 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 4: I had to just stop. I had to step off 700 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: to the side of my treadmill and just let myself 701 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: be emotional for a minute. You really really got me. 702 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 4: It was so beautiful. 703 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 5: Thanks. 704 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 705 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was so sad when he said no 706 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 4: and walked away. 707 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: Him saying no, like it knocked the wind at me 708 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: and your face, Rob and yeah, I don't know. There 709 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: was something so interesting, like the whole way that was 710 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: written for all the things that are done at a 711 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: ten when they should be at a six. That whole 712 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: scene was so gorgeous because it felt so human, even 713 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: the fact that Quinn said, just walk over there and 714 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: say hi, Logan and the rest will come. And then 715 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: you're like, are are you? Are you eating healthy? Like 716 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: it's so you have no idea what to say, and 717 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: we know why, you know, we know what's up, which 718 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: is a fun moment as an audience member. The whole 719 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: thing is so beautiful, and then for him to say no, 720 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: it's just. 721 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 4: You were so breaking sort of you just kept it 722 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 4: really simple. I think that's what I really appreciated about it. 723 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 4: It wasn't I felt Clay's uncertainty. I felt the deep 724 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 4: care and the sensitivity and like the respect of not 725 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: expecting this kid all of a sudden to just be like, Daddy, 726 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 4: everything's fine. You know there was so you you really 727 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 4: handled that so beautifully. 728 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thanks guys. Yeah. I think they did that 729 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 5: storyline a huge service by not making it easy for Clay. 730 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 5: Yes needed to be because you really, you make Logan 731 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 5: so much more of a real human To have him 732 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 5: not immediately go dad and have this great moment it 733 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 5: should be earned. He should be angry and yeah, and 734 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 5: I think they did also just with the dialogue, because 735 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: nothing about that scene should have had any polish on it. 736 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 5: Clay has no idea what he's doing, So the fact 737 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 5: that he's coming in and all of a sudden he's 738 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 5: like are you eating? Are you eating healthy? Or like 739 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 5: it's like what are you talking about? Like, oh yeah, 740 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 5: he has no idea what he's doing. 741 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very sweet. It communicated so well. How suddenly 742 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: rudderless you feel, you know how, in a way having 743 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: the answer is almost harder than the mystery. And because 744 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: you've built up this beautiful rapport with this little boy, 745 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: it's like, well, what are you going to do? How? 746 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: How are you going to do this right? And it's 747 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: really nice to see you not have all of the answers, 748 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, did. 749 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: Anyone bump on the fact that the therapist said it 750 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: was my decision to not allow anyone to talk to 751 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 4: him until he found his way out of this fugue state? 752 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 4: Like I was like, Okay, maybe a few weeks, I guess, 753 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 4: like I could see a month or two, but like, 754 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 4: you're going to let this go on for six years years, 755 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 4: like that is seem super negligible to me. I mean, 756 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: I'm not a therapist who deals with people in the 757 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 4: fugue states, But good lord. 758 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 5: That's a great point. I didn't bump on it in 759 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 5: the moment, but now that you're saying it, because I 760 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 5: was just thinking, like I don't know the rules of 761 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 5: fugue states, like like how you don't wake a sleepwalker. 762 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 5: R don't know if there's a protocol for fugue states. 763 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, that's a good point because it's a really 764 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 5: long time. You can't also only be looking at how 765 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 5: it's affecting Clay. You are now choosing that a child 766 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 5: is going to grow up without his one parent for 767 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 5: six years, right, and. 768 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: Then who's he living with Is he living with grandparents? 769 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 5: It's her parents, Sarah, Yeah, Sarah's parents. 770 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: So it's like it it's just such a it's such 771 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: a crazy thing. And again takes me back to where 772 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: we started. I'm like the cops incompetent malpractice. The therapist. 773 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: This feels like malpractice, Like what is everybody doing? 774 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 5: And did the grandparents never show Logan a picture of 775 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 5: their mom, of. 776 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: His mom and dad saying yes, no pictures. They didn't, 777 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 4: they didn't. They just obeyed this therapist just they were like, Okay, sure, 778 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: sounds good. We'll just raise his kid until he's ready. 779 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: I guess I'll never be ready. 780 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 781 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: This little Boys essentially on the Truman Show. 782 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 6: Uh huh, I don't like it. 783 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 5: Also, yeah, yeah, and this therapist was so lackadaisical about 784 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 5: just being like he'll come around and literally six years 785 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 5: go by. Yeah yeah, he needed to be like way 786 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 5: more proactive or something. 787 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 4: He was so invested though, he like comes to Tree 788 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 4: Hill to be a part b Clay's therapist and Logan 789 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 4: with him. Yeah, there's a whole there's a whole backstory 790 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 4: here that we just did not get. 791 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 5: You know what else left me with more questions and 792 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 5: answered sweet Sweet Mouth's prosthetics. 793 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 6: This is my note. 794 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 4: Mouth is still in this stupid weight suit. 795 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 5: I mean, okay, it's fine. I like that when Skills 796 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 5: is like, what has happened? At first, he just starts 797 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 5: to say, I'm eating for my job, and it's very 798 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 5: easy for just like one meal owed to become two 799 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 5: and three and it just builds up. I was like, yeah, 800 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 5: that's actually totally fair. But I appreciated that Skills went, yeah, 801 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 5: that's all fine and well, but you seem sad to me. Yeah, yeah, 802 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 5: you don't seem like the old mouth, And I thought 803 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 5: that was so smart because then it wasn't. It just 804 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 5: became a real issue that I think more people can 805 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 5: relate with, relate to. Yes, you know, and that was great. 806 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 5: I will say the hard part of me for that 807 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 5: scene was Mouth looks like a ghoule when he's sitting 808 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 5: at the table, the way the lighting in his prosthetics, 809 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 5: there is just something that does not look human about it, 810 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 5: and we have got to get him out of that. 811 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: Because he's literally i mean, his face is covered in 812 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: layers of silicone, like it doesn't when it's not lit correctly. 813 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: It literally doesn't look like human flesh, and so it's 814 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: an unfortunate thing when you're watching an actor you really 815 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: like and you're so taken out of their performance by 816 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: something that's beyond their control. 817 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, he has the crow's feet of an eighty year 818 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 5: old farmer. It's like he gained weight. He didn't also 819 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 5: exist for sixty years on the side, you know. 820 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he didn't age decades. It's so weird. 821 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 5: Tyler was great in this episode. Oh this moment, the 822 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 5: scene where he has to figure out a way to 823 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 5: help Chase and he goes into his office in the 824 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 5: two twin and interns are sitting there and it's basically 825 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 5: just him talking at himself the entire time and then 826 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 5: getting excited about it at the end. Was so freaking funny, man. 827 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so great. 828 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 4: I also loved him with Chase coming out of the 829 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 4: police station and him grabbing the ticket off of the 830 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 4: top of his windshield, rolling it up and throwing it 831 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 4: into the car the cop car next to him. Did 832 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 4: you notice this, Yes, it's just all part of the 833 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 4: action that he did. I don't know if Tyler asked 834 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 4: somebody to put a ticket on his car or if 835 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 4: it was like his car has a ticket. I don't 836 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: know who thought of that, but the man. Those are 837 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 4: the kinds of magic moments that I live for when 838 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 4: I'm watching shows. The stuff that's not being it has 839 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 4: nothing to do with the scene. It's not being said. 840 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 4: It's just normal, everyday action. 841 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 5: Quick magic moment that I I want to circle back 842 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 5: to a scene we've already discussed, but it's when you 843 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 5: and Haley's leaving the bar and Dan is waiting for him, 844 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 5: and there's the slow mo shot of Haley putting on 845 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 5: her glasses walking away, and instead of an explosion because 846 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 5: that's usually what happens in these sort of slow mo scenes, 847 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 5: it is Dan Scott just beating the life out of 848 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 5: the drug dealer next to a dumpster. 849 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 850 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: Joy, I feel like they really gave you your David 851 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: Caruso moment with those sunglasses, and I was like. 852 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, wait to have some on my desk right now. 853 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 854 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 6: It was like that slow mock. 855 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's it, and my elevens really showed up 856 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 4: that I've got their botox now. 857 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 5: The only thing, because you were looking into the sun, 858 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 5: the only thing missing from that scene was just damn, 859 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 5: it feels good to be a gangster playing with the background. 860 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: Yes. 861 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 5: Also, the worst line of the episode was that drug 862 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 5: dealer in the scene prior in the bar, going, you 863 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 5: know what I like in a woman? 864 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 4: Me? 865 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I know. 866 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 5: He was sweet though he was he is, he's a 867 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 5: sweet guy, but he commits to some pretty tough dialogue. 868 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was great. I remember him being like, I'm 869 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 4: so sorry, I have to say this. I'm sorry. 870 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 6: It's okay, buddy, go ahead. 871 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, just lay it on me. It's it's 872 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: our jobs today. 873 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 874 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: Also you had to throw it right back at him 875 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: and do the whole threesome gag. Like they really made 876 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: you guys go for it. 877 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 4: Also, Stephen COLLETTI I just I have his name here 878 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 4: with a thousand exclamation points next to it because his 879 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 4: performance was so so good in this episode and the 880 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 4: way that he and he's so underrated, like watching him 881 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 4: on I want to say on trial, but that's not 882 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 4: the right word. Whatever they were at the at the hearing, 883 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 4: and the way his face he got all choked up, 884 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 4: his eyes got all watery and weepy when Chuck was 885 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 4: tested buying for him and came in and did the 886 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 4: right thing. I just really love watching Stephen work. He's 887 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 4: I just think he's so underrated. He keeps it all 888 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 4: pretty close to the vest, but if you're really watching, 889 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 4: you can see all the gears turning all the time. 890 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well he has such a Stephen has such an 891 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: inherent sweetness of spirit, and it's what made him so 892 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: great to come in as Chase in high school as 893 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: a clean teen you bought that he was just this 894 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: really pure, sweet teenage boy. And there is something about 895 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 1: that earnestness that he has maintained as he's grown into 896 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: a serious leading man, and it is so able to shine. 897 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: It's highlighted so well in this Big Brother story. 898 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, because because yeah, all of. 899 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: You guys, you're like gorgeous, hunky leading men, you know, 900 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: in these big relationships and doing the things. And but 901 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: to see this guy as a volunteer with a boy 902 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,439 Speaker 1: who needs a mentor, it's a rare thing to see 903 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: on camera. And I think it's a very perfect device 904 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: that the writers gave to let something that is inherent 905 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: in our friend really shine through. And when you get 906 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: those moments, it feels it feels very emotionally profound. 907 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just glad they finally got him out from 908 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 4: behind the bar and just back happened Mia. 909 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 6: And Alex and blah blah blah. 910 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, enough already, give this man something actually to do, and. 911 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 5: They did something smart. Obviously it's great, see Chuck did 912 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 5: the right thing, But that they included Chuck's mom in 913 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 5: on it. I didn't realize how much we needed it 914 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 5: until she was there and actually said, we've reported to police. 915 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 5: We told him what was going on, because we like 916 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 5: Chuck so much by this point that we need to 917 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 5: know he's going to have at least one decent parent. Yes, 918 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 5: So the fact that she was in on I thought 919 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 5: was a really smart device to include her, because it 920 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 5: could have easily been Chuck doing it by himself, and 921 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 5: it wouldn't have had quite the same payoff because we 922 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 5: now are kind of so invested in him. 923 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 924 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: Agree. 925 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 5: There were so many, like, so many great lines as 926 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 5: well in this, like when it was such a badass 927 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 5: moment of Dan sending Haley away at the sound stage 928 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 5: and saying he says something to the effect of like, 929 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 5: I'm going to have to do some things I don't 930 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 5: want you to see. Yeh, I'm going to I'm going 931 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 5: to need to do some things you shouldn't see. And I 932 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 5: love that as Haley is walking away, he just goes, 933 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 5: he's about to torture man, but he's never gonna miss 934 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 5: a great one liner, right, and he just goes, Yay, Haley, 935 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 5: you should give deb back her clothes. Like the fact 936 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 5: that he's got a little zinger when he's about to 937 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 5: burn a man was terrific. Here's a line I was 938 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 5: immediately curious about. Do you want to say something? 939 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: So yes, I do before we move on, because this 940 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: is on the subject matter of death. Just in the 941 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: timeline of when we're this episode, I was just on 942 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: the West Coast for work. Ash came out to meet me, 943 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: and the week she was visiting coincided with Emmy weekend, 944 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: so we went out to things like, you know, we 945 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: were doing the thing with the folks who were working 946 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: with a Netflix. We like w into the night before 947 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: on the Sunday night in walk Barbara and her daughter 948 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: and we're just screaming and shrieking and we're like, oh 949 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: my god, oh my God, and we're having the whole thing. 950 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, honey, this is Barbara. You know, you 951 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: always hear us talk about the women who play the 952 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: moms on our show, and ash literally goes, what show 953 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: she plays a mom on? 954 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 5: On? 955 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: Which show? And I'm like, no, not now. She played 956 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 1: one of the moms on one trail And she literally 957 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: looks at Barbara and goes, I'm sorry, that's not possible. 958 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: Whose mom were you playing twenty years ago? I was like, 959 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, And to watch Ashland's brain explode. She 960 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: was like, I don't understand what you're saying to me 961 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: right now, and I was like, no, yeah, Barbara just 962 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 1: is ageless. I don't I don't know what else to say. 963 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 6: So hot always. 964 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,439 Speaker 1: Just like literally the hottest person in the room. None 965 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: of us know what to do about it. 966 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 4: I know. I'm just glad I saw that in the 967 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 4: like next like coming up in the next episode or whatever. 968 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 4: I think she's in it, or she's in at some 969 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 4: point over the next couple of episodes. She's in it. 970 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 4: I saw her face somewhere, so I know she's coming 971 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 4: back for a little bit, which makes me really happy 972 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 4: that we get her before the end. But yeah, that 973 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 4: was a great moment. By the way, just to full 974 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 4: circle that line that Dan thrust out, it was sure 975 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 4: to give her dead, back her clothes. 976 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 5: And then at the at the almost end of the episode, 977 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 5: Skills is asleep on the couch and Mouth goes to 978 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 5: wake him up, so I think they can go for 979 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:47,959 Speaker 5: like a run or something, and in his slumber, Skills says, baby, please, 980 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 5: I'm not from Havana. 981 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 6: Brilliant. 982 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 5: I was immediately fast like I needed an episode about 983 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 5: what that means. Yes, yeah, it raised so many questions 984 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 5: I desperately wanted an answer to. 985 00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: Yes. 986 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 5: Kudos to whoever threw that line in there, because that 987 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 5: was so funny. 988 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 4: It was probably Antoine just laying there on the couch. 989 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 4: They're like, Antoine, just say something. 990 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 6: He came up with it. 991 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 5: Let's go with that, because I would. I love that 992 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 5: version of it. Yeah, it was just Twan ad libbing. 993 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 5: And then the last shot of the episode was a 994 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,760 Speaker 5: real gasper because Xavier holding the baby. 995 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 6: I don't like it. 996 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 4: I'm I'm over the device of babies being stolen by 997 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 4: crazy people, crazy people breaking into bedrooms upstairs, just something else, 998 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 4: anything else, Crazy people do all kinds of crazy things. 999 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 4: Does it have to be even just him being outside 1000 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 4: the house, like he could have just been standing on 1001 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 4: the corner smoking a cigarette outside the house watch. 1002 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 6: And that would have been enough. Like I don't need 1003 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 6: to see him in the room. 1004 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 5: What because we're doing that thing again where we assume 1005 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 5: just because someone's a full blown psycho that they also 1006 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 5: suddenly inherited the skills of a cat burglar. Yeah, because 1007 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,280 Speaker 5: you know, Brooke and Julian right now are on the 1008 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 5: highest of alert, meaning exactly everything was double locked, everything 1009 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 5: was triple checked, and he somehow got through all of 1010 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 5: that woke up a baby, and. 1011 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it feels like. 1012 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 4: It's insulting the audience's intelligence too, Like we we get 1013 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 4: the suspense, we feel it there. You don't have to 1014 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 4: tell us more that we need to be afraid more. 1015 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 4: We're already afraid. 1016 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: We're good, We're already creeped up. It's also such a 1017 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: weird thing, isn't it that that, despite being a ridiculous, 1018 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: overdone choice, that theoretically Xavier could have gotten away with 1019 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: that then had he managed to do all the things 1020 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: you just said, Rob But now, like who doesn't have 1021 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: a nanet or a nest camera in their kids room? 1022 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: Like you just would never it would never happen, like 1023 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: you could, you would know you get an alert like 1024 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: a fly goes by in your kid's room and your 1025 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: phone lights up like MOS detected, and I don't know. 1026 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:08,479 Speaker 1: It's so it's weird to think about these these sort 1027 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 1: of moments, especially with our show in the way tech 1028 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: has taken all these leaps, like the fact that all 1029 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: the kids were on flip phones at the beginning of 1030 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: the show, and like the fact that there wasn't a 1031 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: camera in a nursery. 1032 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 4: Then how about the fact that you guys are following 1033 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 4: him and watching him break into a window, and you 1034 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 4: have a phone with you, but you decided to make 1035 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 4: a phone call with it instead of film him breaking 1036 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 4: into the house. 1037 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: It's so silly. It's all so silly. 1038 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 5: We got to get to this question, but I got 1039 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 5: say the one last silly thing was when Brooke walks 1040 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 5: into the rival's cafe and sees Xavier. Dude. People can't 1041 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 5: help themselves from doing a close up on the object 1042 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 5: falling from someone's hand because I'm shocked. But I love 1043 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 5: that this time, because it's always glass, it always needs 1044 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 5: to break. I love that this time it was a 1045 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 5: coffee pot with metal on the bottom, so it didn't 1046 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 5: It was almost like them going this is the last one, guys, 1047 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 5: this is but it's like, just trust that we're going 1048 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 5: to see it on Brook's face. But no, we got 1049 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 5: to show it falling and hitting the ground because that 1050 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 5: means it's really scary. 1051 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: She's so startled she dropped something. Yeah, it's like okay, guys. 1052 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 5: Okay, I'll read this one. Peter asks Joy, what sort 1053 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 5: of training did you do for that fight scene and 1054 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 5: if you actually got to punch someone? 1055 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 6: Oh, Peter, Oh hi Peter. 1056 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't really a fight scene. It wasn't much 1057 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 4: of a fight scene to me. I mean no, not really. 1058 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 4: There wasn't much training involved. We had a stunt coordinator 1059 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 4: who was like, here's about how far away you can 1060 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 4: get from his face when you swing. Yeah, try not 1061 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,760 Speaker 4: to go any closer. And he was pretty good at 1062 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 4: doing the reaction, which is surprisingly It can be hard 1063 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 4: to do to get the timing right on that. So 1064 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 4: we probably rehearsed it a couple of times. But now 1065 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 4: there's no, no, no real training required. 1066 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1067 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that's always interesting about 1068 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: throwing a slap or throwing a punch is there's obviously 1069 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: a way you do that as a human, but for 1070 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: our friends at home. Depending on where the camera is, 1071 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 1: you often have to do a really weird exaggerated angle, 1072 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: So like for a slap to look like it goes 1073 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: straight across someone's face, depending on where the camera is, 1074 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: it'll look straight in the scene, but you have to 1075 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: start like lower right and go upper left or you do. 1076 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: You have to do all these weird little things to 1077 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: make it look correct on screen versus feel right in 1078 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: your body. But if you do the weird thing that 1079 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: feels really wrong that the stunt coordinator shows you to do, 1080 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: then you see it on screen and. 1081 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 7: You're like, damn, it really looks like I hit that guy. 1082 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: That's like a fun little bts for you, Peter. 1083 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the same with love scenes where people are like, 1084 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, youus it's so hot, and you're like, 1085 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 5: it is the opposite, Like there is so much technical 1086 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 5: to it, like are they blocking my light? Am I 1087 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 5: blocking theirs? Can I put my arm here? Like it 1088 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 5: is the most uncomfortable. 1089 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I've been that way, then I get all 1090 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 4: these weird lines in my side, so I have to 1091 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 4: make sure that I'm like my back is arched, you know, 1092 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 4: it's like so comfortable. 1093 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 1: And then Also, you finally think you've got it right, 1094 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: and it's like you were you were in her light, 1095 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: you were in his light. You got to readjust this way, 1096 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: so you have to make it look really passionate and 1097 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: also keep your head at a weird angle. They get 1098 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: you a cramp. 1099 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's like such a bizarre. 1100 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: Thing to have to do. 1101 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 5: All right, let's spin a wheel. 1102 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: Alrighty. 1103 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 5: Most likely to become a professional gambler. 1104 00:55:54,440 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: Oh Antoine Antoine jinks. Oh yeah, yes, that man loves 1105 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: a sports bet. He also is so good at bluffing. 1106 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you could be playing poker with Antoine 1107 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: and he would just totally knock you sideways because he'd 1108 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: have a great story no matter what his hand actually 1109 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: looked like. 1110 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 5: And he plays, I think regularly in Domino's tournaments. So yeah, yeah, easily. 1111 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 6: Are you allowed to talk and poker? 1112 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 4: Can you just like yes, blah blah blah blah blah 1113 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 4: blah blah, just talk. Yeah, so that could be part 1114 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 4: of his Oh man, I would throw everybody off, I 1115 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 4: bet because he would just go. 1116 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 6: He knows how to just run. 1117 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 5: Right. Next week we have season nine, episode ten Hardcore 1118 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 5: will Never Die, but you will, Oh, boy, that's a 1119 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 5: good title. It is, see if it lives up to 1120 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 5: it heavy though. 1121 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: Heavy titles, hardcore and death and bombs. And we got 1122 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot going on this year. 1123 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 4: My god, I think we're wrapping it up soon with 1124 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 4: those with those storylines. I hope at times coming, happy 1125 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,720 Speaker 4: times coming. 1126 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 5: I know. Can you believe there's only four episodes left 1127 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 5: for us to covert? Wait? Is that actually ten? Eleven, twelve, thirteen? Gasp, 1128 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 5: you shall joy? It's crazy. 1129 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna go cry. 1130 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 5: We should just start watching them back in different languages 1131 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 5: and we're like, well, none of us speak Farsie, but 1132 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 5: what we think happened in this episode? 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