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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney.

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Speaker 2: We are your.

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick, it has

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Speaker 1: arrived inevitable down spell for the Cubs. We knew they

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Speaker 1: couldn't play at such a high level. It would seem

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Speaker 1: some like some little issues popping up here and there.

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Speaker 1: But this team has been remarkably good at bouncing back

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Speaker 1: answering any losses with whether it's limiting losing streaks or

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Speaker 1: just making sure that a bad moment doesn't turn into

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Speaker 1: a bad week or month. They've done a good job

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Speaker 1: of that so far. But it should have been the

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Speaker 1: downfall in twenty three and twenty four, just these really

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Speaker 1: long spells of poor play. Right now, the Cubs are

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Speaker 1: in their worst stretch. They've lost five of six. It's

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Speaker 1: four games against the Cardinals, big series, first time they're

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Speaker 1: playing Saint Louis. You could kind of if they swept

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Speaker 1: this series, If they were capable of sweeping the series,

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Speaker 1: that would be a big statement and something maybe perhaps

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Speaker 1: ending things for the Cardinals as they try and decide

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Speaker 1: are they buyers are they sellers.

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Speaker 2: Are they just straddling the line? Instead?

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Speaker 1: They lose to and and on Tuesday that that was

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Speaker 1: a gut punch loss, the type of game that, okay,

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Speaker 1: you think you think early on the Cubs have answered

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Speaker 1: after falling behind early, have a five run inning, and

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Speaker 1: then things just kind of fell apart. Jameson tywn is

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Speaker 1: giving up way too much hard contact, and and like

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Speaker 1: you know, Dansby Swanson isn't coming up in the clutch.

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Speaker 1: These are topics we will touch on. But the story

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Speaker 1: last night, unfortunately, is Pek Armstrong. I think it's important

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Speaker 1: that we say up front Peak Armstrong is an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 1: They would not be here without PCA, this season would

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Speaker 1: not be going as well. He deserves all the accolades.

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Speaker 1: He had a terrible night on Tuesday. The he essentially

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Speaker 1: what happened was flyball one out. He camps under it

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Speaker 1: in center field, right at the fence man on second.

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Speaker 1: He thinks there's two outs, kind of just like turns

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Speaker 1: his back to the field, doesn't think much about it,

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Speaker 1: and and Mason wins course from second base. That's the

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Speaker 1: eighth run, that's the deciding run. I think the more

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Speaker 1: mind boggling thing to me, like, that's that's just you know,

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Speaker 1: like I don't know where your heads. That sucks it happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that punt in the seventh inning, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what, like why he needs to do that.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lefty on the mound, but you're

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Speaker 1: the cleanup hitter. You're an MVP candidate, swing away buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of unpacked there. I think

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Speaker 3: they there's a lot of nuanced to baseball, a lot

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Speaker 3: of complexities, but then sometimes something is just so easily

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Speaker 3: just obviously an embarrassing moment for you know, just a

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Speaker 3: spectacular player who's really carried the Cubs in a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways. And I think to have it happen against

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals, a team that you know, has a certain

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Speaker 3: reputation for doing things a certain way in what wound

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Speaker 3: up being a one run loss. Uh, this is part

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Speaker 3: of being a star, right Like when you when you

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Speaker 3: mess up like that, the reporters are going to be

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Speaker 3: at the locker and and according to your story, I

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Speaker 3: mean Pete was waiting there right like he knew this

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Speaker 3: is not a manager who likes to bunt. You know,

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Speaker 3: the hitting group has really supported Pete and said, this

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Speaker 3: so sid of do you kind of paint the picture

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like everyone knew what the story was.

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Speaker 2: It's it was Pete.

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter that there were other people making mistakes,

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Speaker 1: like that was the story of the night. Unfortunately for

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Speaker 1: Pete or Armstrong, Council handled it like Council handles everything

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Speaker 1: worthy moment. It was a brain fart that that shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 1: this he's a hard worker who always hustles, and that's

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Speaker 1: just it's just a bad moment. Uh. And that's basically

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Speaker 1: You know, that was his choice. He's not good against lefties.

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Speaker 1: you know this is is this just a young guy

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Speaker 1: the home run right here. Let's tie this game up,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's it's the wrong, wrong decision. In

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Speaker 1: that moment, Pete. Pete explained it.

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Speaker 2: He was he was there.

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Speaker 1: He was not a happy person in that moment, but

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Speaker 1: he was there waiting for us. You could see it

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Speaker 1: He was not happy with anything. Uh like all, he

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Speaker 1: to assume that he was just not happy with himself

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Speaker 2: You know, use his speed score run. He's not good

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Speaker 1: It's a thirty one percent strikeout rape, it's twenty one

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Speaker 1: to be hard to ground into a double play there

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Speaker 1: with your speed. A fly ball scores the run. There

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Speaker 1: are just there are only a few things that don't

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Speaker 2: This wasn't.

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Speaker 1: To be honest. I haven't looked up Jojo Romero's full numbers.

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Speaker 1: I think he's been fine this season. But this isn't

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Speaker 1: some dominant lefty that you have to overthink the situation.

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Speaker 2: I just think it was. I think I do think

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Speaker 2: he overthought it. It's as simple as that, in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is what I think the Cubs have

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Speaker 3: to sort of guard against here, Like, is Pete gonna

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Speaker 3: hit a wall for lack of a better term. I

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Speaker 3: mean it's roughly the midway point of the season was

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Speaker 3: He's had what maybe one day off I think In Philly,

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Speaker 3: I mean they've been he plays hard. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: was that Ben Brown quote? Like, however, it sometimes seems

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Speaker 3: like Pete plays two games out there just because of

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Speaker 3: his offensive production taken together, it's been a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this has been a life changing a couple of months

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Speaker 3: for pekro Armstrong. And I don't think it's not making excuses.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean like he's about to wilt or anything

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Speaker 3: like that. I'm sure this is a great learning experience

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Speaker 3: for him. It's just that the sort of construct of

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Speaker 3: that's kind of taken them to this different sort of level,

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Speaker 3: like the top end of their projections needed someone to,

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Speaker 3: as Jed Horr would say, like consolidate all that war

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Speaker 3: to have that seven eight, nine win season, and Pete

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Speaker 3: was the moment, you know from from the game that

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Speaker 3: maybe it's you know, a great moment where Pete learned

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Speaker 3: something and you know we're talking about it, you know,

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Speaker 3: when he's starting, you know, Game one of the World Series,

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is like that.

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Speaker 3: Every the rest of the season is still unwritten, but

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Speaker 3: it definitely and you captured it well in the athletic

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Speaker 3: of one of those moments that symbolizes you know, a

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Speaker 3: lot of different ideas. And I think we'll get into

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Speaker 3: this more in the next couple of segments, like you

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Speaker 3: can't blame Pete and there's a lot more going on

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Speaker 3: with this team than just Pete making a couple of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, there's I mean, Pete played what has

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Speaker 1: actually played well in outside of these two moments in

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Speaker 1: this series. He's got a few hits, made some good

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Speaker 1: defensive plays. I'm not going to tear Pete arms during apart.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him as any of the reason that

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Speaker 1: right right now. It was a bad night on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I think there are bigger issues to talk about, and

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick Jameson Tyne has been really good for

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Speaker 1: this team this season, the last season it's been, you know,

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Speaker 1: basically two years now, since that start in New York

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Speaker 2: These last two starts have been rough. Rough is putting

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Speaker 1: Eight combined innings in two starts, thirteen earned runs, five

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Speaker 1: home runs, sixteen hits allowed. That the home runs are

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Speaker 1: an issue, twenty one home runs on the season, I believe,

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Speaker 1: I wrote that was his total from last season. He's

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Speaker 1: second in all of baseball and home runs allowed. This

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Speaker 1: this is a rough patch, you know, is a kind

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Speaker 1: way of saying it what these last two starts are

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Speaker 1: for him. But previously that ten of fourteen starts, quality starts,

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Speaker 1: just a rock in the rotation, leader in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: He's doing a lot of things right. He's hit a

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Speaker 1: rough patch. He said the right things after the game.

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Speaker 1: For six weeks it felt like the game was easy.

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Speaker 1: Now I got to punch back and figure out what's

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Speaker 1: going on and get right. He will seen and him

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Speaker 1: have bad moments and bounce back, So I would not

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Speaker 1: it is. It is concerning in the sense that this

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: They had a six and a half game lead a

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Speaker 3: Like obviously the top he's doing a lot of damage,

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Speaker 3: like those are the names you circle, but after that,

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Speaker 3: at a certain point, it definitely drops off. Like you know,

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Speaker 3: Matt Shaw, you know, great defender has surpassed our expectations,

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Speaker 3: but not not really crushing the ball right now. And

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Speaker 3: so when Dansby, you're one hundred and seventy one hundred

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Speaker 3: and seventy seven million dollars shortstop isn't getting done in

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Speaker 3: those clutch situations, like, yeah, he's gonna have to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be fair to him, he owned it.

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Speaker 1: He's he's well aware that he's not. He's well aware

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Speaker 1: needs to figure that out. He needs to come up

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Speaker 1: in those big situations, come through in those big situations. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the lineup is, you know, I I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the answer is. Is it putting Nico there? You don't

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Speaker 1: want to have a string of lefties. It makes it

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Speaker 1: easier to pitch to Pete Koor Armstrong if you have

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Speaker 2: Like it is it Matt Is?

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Speaker 1: Can Matt Shaw step up? He's not hitting well right now.

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Speaker 1: His his at bats look pretty rough. He's got I

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Speaker 1: don't you can't move him up in the lineup. I

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Speaker 1: will see Carson Kelly's looked a little bit better lately,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if you want him batting fifth again.

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Speaker 1: Like that was a nice run for him, It was,

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Speaker 1: it was. It really helped this team win some games.

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Speaker 1: But I think the only choice you have is is

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Speaker 1: start thinking about how you do things going forward if

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Speaker 1: that if that's not working. And maybe this is something

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, you just have to

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Speaker 1: see where I don't think that's the pressing thing. I

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Speaker 1: as well, who becomes available, and then and then you

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Speaker 1: can start talking about it. Okay, let's let's go get

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Speaker 1: this guy. He's got, you know, two months left on

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Speaker 1: his contract. It's not going to cost an arm and

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Speaker 1: a leg, and he can help us win some games,

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Speaker 1: whatever that may be. But I just don't I don't

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Speaker 1: think right now you can keep doing this with Dancy

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Speaker 1: songs and he gets red hot, and I I am

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Speaker 1: a hunt as long as he's healthy. I'm one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent sure there's going to be a stretch where Dansby

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Speaker 1: Swanson is just hitting the crap out of the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not happening, and it hasn't happened with men on

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Speaker 1: base so that it really stands out because those are

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Speaker 1: those are the biggest moments, and those whether I don't

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Speaker 1: for me, I don't believe that he can't handle those moments.

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Speaker 1: It's just he's not coming through right now in those

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Speaker 1: moments and that you know, those are critical times.

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Speaker 2: All right, Patrick, let's let's wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: When we come back and talk to everyone, these four

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Speaker 1: games will be done. We'll see where the Cubs are.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't want to put too much weight

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Speaker 1: on these two. Like I said, I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Cubs are going to overthink it.

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Speaker 3: Biggest game of the year today, as Craig Counsels would say.

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Speaker 1: Right today, today is the biggest game of the year.

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Speaker 1: So whenever you're listening to it, that's the biggest game

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Speaker 1: of the year. Thanks so much for listening to everyone.

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