1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: The following is the production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Ready for a break? 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 6: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 6: Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi and 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 6: Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 7: It is Thursday, October second, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 7: episode number forty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 7: The Break, Live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 7: Star were presented by LG. LG's the world's number one 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 7: old TV brand for eleven years in counting. See why 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 7: at LG dot com Forward slash O led Evo watch 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 7: not with us today, but we got brought us, We've 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 7: got Amber and we'll be getting ready for Cowboys. 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 8: Version, and we've got the chat and we've. 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: Got the chat. 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 7: Of course Amber is just like she's still excited with 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 7: this chat every day now that she's hip to it. 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least be nice. 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 7: Don't make me nice, And so we will we will 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 7: talk about just defense, just defense versus the Cowboys offense today. 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: Hey, indose me for just a second. 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 7: I real quick, just want to say happy birthday to 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 7: my lovely wife. 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: It is her birthday. 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 8: To day, joys herthday and still listen to the show. 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 7: Oh no, no, I'm like this show has has meant 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 7: a lot for our family, and my wife just don't. 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 7: But my mom does. My mom listens to every ye, 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 7: Mom's always in. Mom will never not listen. But my wife, 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 7: she got other things going on. 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: She's working. Let's just put it like that he's working anyway. Uh, 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: let's talk. Let's talk about the injury list. This injury 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: list just exploded yesterday. 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 7: It did a lot of stuff on there that that 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 7: just kind of just popped up on everyone. I got 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 7: some indications on a couple of these things earlier in 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 7: the week, but man, to see them all in one list, 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 7: it was very shocking. 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: Uh, let's go through the list. Let's talk about some 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: of these. 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 7: Obviously, we know about Tyler Booker, we know about Cedee Lamb. 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: I did see though yesterday. 49 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 7: Well I saw yesterday there was some footage coming out 50 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 7: of practice where CD was out of his boot. Yeah, 51 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 7: both of them, Yeah, I think said both are still 52 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 7: through out of the boot. Yes, so that's actually positive 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 7: for both of them to be moving along. They haven't 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 7: been placed on IR, so that's those are positive things. Now, 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 7: let's talk about Tyler Guiden and Moone Cooker and Miles Sanders. 56 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 7: Those are three guys that got injured in the game, 57 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 7: and we knew about those injuries. 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: What do we know at this point about the three? 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, the thing with with Geydon, Uh now excuse me, uh, 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 9: the one that Smith did you say Smith. 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: I didn't. We're gonna get Smith in a second. 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 9: The one with Guiding and so yeah, you're once again 63 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 9: that they d m P as we talked about yesterday, 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 9: They're gonna monitor again another day and see what happens 65 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 9: with that. So as we get through today and then 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 9: Friday will be the indicator. But they feel like they're 67 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 9: gonna need one more day on both of those and 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 9: then they'll be able to make that determination after today 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 9: when they get done with practice whether they're going to 70 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 9: be available for this game this weekend. My my, My 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 9: early indications are though that this is going to be 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 9: close on It's gonna be close on Guiden, but we'll see. 73 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: We'll stay with with Hooker, but. 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 9: Right now they're gonna need at least today to kind 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 9: of figure out what they're gonna do tomorrow. 76 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 7: So both Hooker and Guiden are touching gold, touching out. Yeah, 77 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 7: what are you hearing about Miles Sanders? 78 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 9: Miles Sanders is another one that's kind of a touch 79 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 9: and go situation with them. So this might be the 80 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 9: week that you actually see uh Blue get an opportunity 81 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 9: to play. They're gonna they're monitoring that situation today with 82 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 9: how he practices, and then going forward, what they're gonna 83 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 9: be able to do with Sanders and Sanders is that 84 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 9: one's looking a little bit touching Oh right now too, all. 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 7: Right, these are the two that popped up that I 86 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 7: think surprised most folks. Tyler Smith jumped onto the injury 87 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 7: report with a knee injury. He did not practice. Cavante 88 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 7: Turpin uh with a foot injury? He practice? What are 89 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 7: we hearing about those two? And and the amount of 90 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 7: time that maybe they might have to miss. 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't know about the thing. 92 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 9: They don't know yet about the time that that that 93 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 9: Turpin could miss. I mean they and I asked like, hey, 94 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 9: is this game several games a couple of games, and 95 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 9: they go, we don't know that yet, but they think 96 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 9: it's a They think it's. 97 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: A serious injury. 98 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 9: You know, foot sprains are serious, so they're they're looking 99 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 9: at that right now, but they don't have a gauge 100 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 9: on exactly how long that will be. I was told 101 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 9: on the the Tyler Smith one, this is the normal 102 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 9: that you know, he's dealing with the tendonitis in his 103 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 9: knee and so this is the same thing he's been 104 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 9: dealing with before. It's just they have to continue to 105 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 9: monitor this. I was told, Hey, this is something that 106 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 9: is not new. This is something remember when he was 107 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 9: missing early in the season. He was missing practice and 108 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 9: things like that, and there were some questions about him. 109 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 9: But this is the same need. It's it's just something 110 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 9: that they're going to have to kind of work through 111 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 9: the whole entire season. 112 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 7: They say, So, how does that work when you when 113 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 7: you have an injury like that. Is it one that 114 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 7: obviously they'll manage it throughout the year. Is it one 115 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 7: that then you get to the off season and there's 116 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 7: a surgery you have to have. 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: Is it one that you. 118 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 7: Gets it off season you just have to sit and 119 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 7: wait and let it kind of heal and just right 120 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 7: now in the season, you don't have time to let 121 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 7: it heal, and that's why you can manage it. 122 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, you don't have time, and so it's it's just 123 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 9: missing practices. 124 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: And stuff like that. 125 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 7: But it's not a long term injury. Doesn't from the 126 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 7: standpoint it's like the future years. It's more just he's 127 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 7: gonna need time. Right now, you don't have time. 128 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 9: I asked the question. I'm like, hey, is this one 129 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 9: of those things that's something new? And then like, no, no, no, 130 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 9: we knew about this injury. This is something we've been 131 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 9: dealing with. We just put them on the report. 132 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: Okay, now come on. 133 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 10: Why can we Oh no, you're about to say the 134 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 10: next one. I'm like, oh my gosh, why can't we 135 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 10: just I was gonna say I'd be happy and enjoy 136 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 10: It hasn't been an enjoyable season so far, but at 137 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 10: least on the offense. We've been talking about the O 138 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 10: line and Dyk and the running game, and it's just 139 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 10: the hits keep coming on the O line, which is 140 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 10: the one area that you want to just try to 141 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 10: keep consistent, and now it's just one thing after the other. 142 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 8: Yeah, and go ahead, mention the next one. 143 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: Well before we even go to Turpin. 144 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 7: I think if you look at the offensive line, the 145 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 7: interesting part is that the Cowboys have actually, in my opinion, 146 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 7: done a pretty good job with bass and with with 147 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 7: Hoffmann playing. 148 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: In start in place. So they're two starters who are 149 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: already out. 150 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 7: My question just becomes how capable are they of continuing 151 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 7: to take kids. Let's say now Guidan is out, and 152 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 7: then let's say maybe Tyler is out. Now, at what 153 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 7: point does it become just too much? 154 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. 155 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: Sustain big change. 156 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean credit to them that they have the 157 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 7: good depth they have so far, but how much depth 158 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 7: do they have? 159 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: Right? 160 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 9: It's now you're in the situation with Nate Thomas potentially 161 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 9: having to play, you know, steal, so you're probably looking 162 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 9: at I think that Smith is going to play. I 163 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 9: think this is something that it's just every week we're 164 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 9: going to see him on the injury report, likely until 165 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 9: they get maybe to the bye week and you have 166 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 9: a game where you could just not play and rest. 167 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 9: So yeah, if if I think the worst case scenario 168 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 9: is it would be Thomas at left tackle, Smith at 169 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 9: left guard, Hopping at center, Bascett right guard, and then 170 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 9: steal at right tackle. Now behind that then if if 171 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 9: you have more injuries, then here we go again. 172 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: You know. 173 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 9: That's that's the things that you have to kind of 174 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 9: be a little bit concerned about. The depth behind the 175 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 9: depth is always going to. 176 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: Be a problem, right, yeah, because there's a reason why 177 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: they're the depth. 178 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 7: Behind the depth right right, right right, So so far 179 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 7: if you were if you were looking at it, do 180 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 7: you think that, uh, do you think that, like whatever 181 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 7: you have, Let's say Nate has to go out there 182 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 7: and play, yea, we would like what he's done when 183 00:07:58,720 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 7: he's had to go out. 184 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: There at all. 185 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: Right, it's not a problem. 186 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 7: So you really don't think you take it as long 187 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 7: as Tyler can play, you feel pretty good about what 188 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 7: you said it out right. 189 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: I know you absolutely do. I mean, from what you've 190 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: seen so far, so good. 191 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 9: Uh, you know, the way they were able to match up, 192 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 9: and you know, we'll get into the Jets and the 193 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 9: you know, some of the issues that they have on 194 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 9: their defensive line, it's not injury related. It's just they 195 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 9: have not created a bunch of pass rush, you know, 196 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 9: and they've got some guys that can they can rush 197 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 9: the passer, but a little bit similar to what Dallas 198 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 9: has done. When when they get pressure, they've they've done 199 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 9: a good job. It's when they don't get pressure that 200 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 9: teams have taken advantage. But you know, if they have 201 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 9: to go, you know, like I say, it's it's it's 202 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 9: just the depth behind the depth that's the biggest issue. 203 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 9: If if, in fact, I could say, I think Smith 204 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 9: is going to play in this football game. 205 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: But but but Thomas. 206 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 9: If you got to remember, Nate Thomas was a guy 207 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 9: that you know, Philadelphia week we were having these conversations 208 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 9: and we were saying, oh, well, Nate Thomas, should we 209 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 9: start him or do you bring Geydon? And you know, 210 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 9: it was kind of fifty to fifty and they got 211 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 9: to the point where even asked Steven Joe's a question, uh, 212 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 9: you know, in like week two, and he said, listen, 213 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 9: you know, Nate Thomas is ready and he's pushing, and 214 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 9: those guys have got to you know, the guys ahead 215 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 9: of him have got to step up the games and 216 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 9: stuff like that. And what happened the other day we 217 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 9: saw Nate Thomas go in the game for Steel and 218 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 9: Steel was completely healthy. So they're there and it's something 219 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 9: that Schottenheimer was really not interested in doing. But you 220 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 9: know they want to make sure that Nate Thomas is 221 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 9: ready for these times. 222 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 10: Well, I can't wait for you to give us some 223 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 10: good analysis and good positivity, some. 224 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 8: Good news about this just defensive. 225 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: Line, desper team theory, desper team theory and all that. 226 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 7: Let's let's talk a little bit about Turpin just because 227 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 7: it's my man. Well, let me say it's it's my 228 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 7: belief last week that the reason why the offense functioned 229 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 7: the way that it did absent Ceedee Lamb was about 230 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 7: Cavante Turpin. I agree Turpin still provides, Agree that X factor, 231 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 7: that that guy that the defense has to really be 232 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 7: worried about without him out there. How comfortable do you 233 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 7: feel with Pickings being your wide receiver one? And then 234 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 7: you've got Jalen Toldard who had a night a really 235 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 7: nice catch last week, great catch who Ryan f Illinois 236 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 7: had a great catch last week in a situation. 237 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: They played very well, right as a group. 238 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 7: When they all have to slide up, those two guys 239 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 7: have to slide up and become your wide receiver two 240 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 7: and your wide receiver three, and you lose the juice 241 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 7: of somebody like Cavante Turpin, how comfortable do you feel 242 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 7: that this offense can still operate? 243 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: Go for it? 244 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 10: AG, Well, this news was very unfortunate because when we 245 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 10: got here after that game and we talked about the game, 246 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 10: and I think it was yesterday or the day before, 247 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 10: we were talking about come on to terping and everything 248 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 10: that he Oh, it was a question you sent that 249 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 10: in Brian when you were out if he was a 250 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 10: gadget player still or is he now a reliable player 251 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 10: at the wide receiver where you have to use him more? 252 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 10: And I was like, okay, well, the way he's playing, 253 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 10: why not utilize him more? And some of the concerns 254 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 10: you have about him was okay, his size can hear 255 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,239 Speaker 10: last in this league, you know, playing so many snaps 256 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 10: week to week And I'm not sure do you guys 257 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 10: know exactly when the injury happened or. 258 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 9: Do I think he Like I said, I was going 259 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 9: to go back and look at this and I might 260 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 9: do it at the break, but I thought it was 261 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 9: later in the game he got tackled along the sidelines 262 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 9: and he had a little issue with it. 263 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: Then I didn't think anything of it at the time. 264 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 8: I would imagine it happened at some point late in 265 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 8: the game. I don't think. 266 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 9: Anything that's the same thing. It happened to a Booker, 267 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 9: you know, a late game, got rolled up on with 268 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 9: two minutes to go in the game. 269 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll go back. 270 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 10: And but going back to that, we saw we started 271 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 10: seeing how much they've been using him on offense and 272 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 10: how much he just kind of it brings a different 273 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 10: type of energy boost to the offense. And now you 274 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 10: take that away, Plus you're not you're still not having 275 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 10: CD in there. Now you're having to rely and again 276 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 10: these other players, yes they're good, but you're missing that 277 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 10: extra spark in there to help you get moving and 278 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 10: keep defenses guessing. So it's gonna be a big change 279 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 10: not having him in there. And I think it does 280 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 10: lose that type of momentum that they started building on 281 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 10: this offense. 282 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 9: This is what this is, how valuable valuable he is. 283 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 9: It takes two people to replace Ceede Lamb. And I 284 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 9: say it this way, You've got You've got Pickings does 285 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 9: a certain thing. He could bring a level of Ceedee 286 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 9: Lamb to down the field to catch the spectacular make plays. 287 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: But he's not a move around guy. You don't move in. 288 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 9: He stays generally in a spot. He stays either right 289 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 9: or left. He's not a guy that goes in the slot. 290 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 9: He doesn't go in, he doesn't play. He doesn't always 291 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 9: go on on the outside to uh or he will 292 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 9: play on the outside, but it's not always right and left. 293 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 9: Ceedee Lamb is a right left slot player. So what 294 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 9: they have to do is to make up for that. 295 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 9: That's why they had success. They used They used Turpin 296 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 9: as their slot player and they use him on the outside. 297 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 9: So he combined with what Pickens skill set is kind 298 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 9: of gets you what you have in ced Lamb. So 299 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 9: you don't miss a beat though with your your top 300 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 9: receiver that way, taking him out of this now takes 301 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 9: the element. Now you're going to have to replace that 302 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 9: that ced Lamb again. Who is going to be the 303 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 9: guy that steps up with Pickens, that gives you the 304 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 9: that gives you that level of where you get with 305 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 9: ced Lamb. So this is this is a this is 306 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 9: a significant injury for the Dallas Cowboys. 307 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 7: And to that point, Brian somebody with his skill set 308 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 7: becomes even more dangerous when you're moving them around because 309 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 7: now defenses are having to adapt to He's not gonna 310 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 7: stay in the same spot. That's he's going to get 311 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 7: to the line of screaming and he's gonna move. And 312 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 7: now the defense has to morph to be able to 313 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 7: count for his speed wherever he goes. And so I 314 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 7: think that's the part that it's not just about him 315 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 7: as a receiver. It's about the skill set that he has. 316 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 7: It's about the speed that he has, the elusiveness that 317 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 7: he has. Defenses have to account for that no matter 318 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 7: where he is on the field. 319 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: You take that away. 320 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 7: I just think it changes how defenses can play this 321 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: this this this Cowboys receiver group. 322 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 9: It's it's it's tough because he's the one that's put 323 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 9: in motion the most of all the Cowboy receivers. He's 324 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 9: the one whose motion numbers are the highest of any 325 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 9: after a game, and he does a lot of different things. 326 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 9: But it also hurts you in the return game. You know, 327 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 9: you look at the situation. You mean, look what he 328 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 9: did in the in the game the other day, and 329 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 9: in no remember where he might have got hurt was 330 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 9: the tackle they ran, they ran, They had a second 331 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 9: kickoff return he got went up to the forty five 332 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 9: and then they had a holding penalty that was and I'll. 333 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: Look this up. 334 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 9: And then he got tackled again, and then they got 335 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 9: the ball about the forty yard line again, and then 336 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 9: they got a they got a holding penalty. 337 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: That brought the ball back. 338 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 9: So I think that's he might have got hurt on 339 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 9: that second you know, kickoff return that he had they 340 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 9: got tackled along the silence. But yeah, it kills your 341 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 9: slot game, and it kills your ability to return punts 342 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 9: and return kicks. 343 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 7: So I'm gonna ask you guys this question, who steps up? No, well, 344 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 7: that's a whole different conversation. But if the Cowboys at 345 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 7: some point have to make the decision that, because of 346 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 7: his size, you just can't play him as much as 347 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 7: they really want to play him, and you had to 348 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 7: make a decision, not to say they're gonna have to 349 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 7: make this decision, but if you had to make the 350 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: decision whether you use him as a returner or as 351 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 7: a wide receiver, which is more valuable. 352 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 9: Derek, I'm gonna answer this question as truthfully as I can. Right, 353 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 9: you need him as a receiver because my defense can't 354 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 9: stop to make people punt. You know, I have to, 355 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 9: you know, And yeah, the kickoff return aspect of it 356 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 9: is because yeah, teams aren't been scoring on you. You 357 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 9: have been giving up points. You know, the Giants scored 358 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 9: a massive number on you, and so did the Packers. 359 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 9: So yeah, you are getting the opportunity for kickoff return 360 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 9: when we saw him bring the ball back to midfield 361 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 9: and just in the blink of an eye. But in reality, though, 362 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 9: as long as Lamb's not playing, I need him to 363 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 9: play receiver is what I need to do. And he's 364 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 9: a valuable special teams players, a Pro Bowl special teams player, 365 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 9: but I'm getting people to punt. I haven't been able 366 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 9: to use him as a punt retur. My defense has 367 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 9: just not done a very good job even of even 368 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 9: doing that. So I've gotta use him as a receiver well. 369 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 8: And also that's where it comes. 370 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 10: It becomes difficult to really make those those decisions of 371 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 10: managing players based on okay, well they have this size, 372 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 10: and based on things that could potentially happen. 373 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 8: But you can't predict the future. But I've always heard 374 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 8: if you have good players, you play them. 375 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 10: You cannot not play them just because, oh they might 376 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 10: get injured. 377 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 8: If he is not complaining and saying Hey, you know, 378 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 8: I'm dying out there. I'm out of. 379 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 10: Bread, Like, give me a quick break. If he's not 380 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 10: doing that, keep playing him. You can just bubble wrap 381 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 10: people just in case. And he's too valuable. He's too 382 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 10: valuable and too skilled not to have him out there 383 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 10: as much as they've been using himself. 384 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 9: I think I think a lot of it has to 385 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 9: do with the guys behind him, though, too. Who's stepping 386 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 9: the you stepping up? I mean last week you did 387 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 9: you got Tolbert played at a nice level. 388 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 8: Mingo. 389 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, Mingo is starting to practice on a limited basis. 390 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 9: You know that could be You have to be very 391 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 9: mindful of these elevations, and when you do it, you 392 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 9: have to be almost strategic about it. You know, you 393 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 9: just can't say, Okay, bring the guy back, bringing back guy, 394 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 9: but you know, because there's some ramplications that happened with that. 395 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 9: So yeah, this is this is now about what's gonna 396 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 9: happen with Flinoy, What's gonna happen with Mingo, what's gonna 397 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 9: happen with you know, with with Tolbert, all these guys. 398 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 9: I mean, they're gonna have to find ways to make 399 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 9: up for a loss here yeah. 400 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 7: I think the challenge there though, is that none of 401 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 7: them have the kind of juice none that Cat Turpin has. 402 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 7: And I think that's the part that I'm most concerned about, 403 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 7: is where you're gonna get your juice, where you're gonna 404 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 7: get that speed. And if you don't have speed out 405 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 7: there at some part of you, in some part of 406 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 7: your offense, then defenses can play you very, very differently. 407 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 7: It makes it everything becomes a lot easier when you 408 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 7: don't have to deal with speed. And I shouldn't say 409 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 7: like that because there's some guys that can run. It 410 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 7: ain't Cabanti Turpent type speed. 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All right, Brian, 481 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 7: break down this New York Jet defense for us. 482 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think there's really four guys you're going to 483 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 9: kind of have to think about in this one. 484 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: And you know, the the. 485 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 9: Jets have really they've had their moments where they've they 486 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 9: just have not been very good. And when they've when 487 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 9: they've struggled extremely what they're tackling, they they've had a 488 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 9: really a last game against the Dolphins, it was really 489 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 9: very clear, Uh, that they were that they were struggling. 490 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 9: It matters the linebackers, the safeties. I mean it's been 491 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 9: a corners that they've had some problems. And what happens 492 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 9: is when you watch them play, they're predominantly are very 493 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 9: aggressive defense. Because you of Aaron Glenn and you think 494 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 9: about the way that he played at Detroit, and you 495 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 9: know they play, they play a ton of man coverage. 496 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 9: They also have a guy they'll travel with you, and 497 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 9: that's Sauce Gardner. And and you know he last year 498 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 9: he wasn't so much a traveler. But now with like 499 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 9: I mentioned, with Aaron Glenn and this crew that you know, 500 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 9: opening opening a day against Seattle against six seeing the Steelers, 501 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 9: you know he was with Madcalf ninety percent of the time. 502 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 9: In Tampa Bay, he was with there guys sixty percent 503 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 9: of the time. When you start to talk about how 504 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 9: you know they and and and Aaron Glenn, I think 505 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 9: it's only going to get more now that you have 506 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 9: Cede Lamb in this game. Excuse me, Uh, George Pickens 507 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 9: in this game. Uh, this could be a game where 508 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 9: all of a sudden that they determine that George Pickens 509 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 9: could be the biggest weapon. 510 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: And now you. 511 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 9: Travel sauce with him, so you'll see him. He wears 512 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 9: number one. He's very difficult to get away from. He's 513 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 9: a very sticky player. He takes a lot of pride 514 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 9: in how he plays that way. He could be very physical. 515 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 9: He's not afraid to mix things up. He's the type 516 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 9: of guy you love to have on your team because 517 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 9: you can do a lot of things with him. I 518 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 9: wouldn't be surprised if, in fact that the Jets say, Okay, 519 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 9: your best receiver, especially if there's no turpin in this game, 520 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 9: your best receiver is Pickens, and now we're going to 521 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 9: travel him with and see how that goes for the Jets. 522 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 9: And then but there's a there's a price for that, 523 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 9: because on the other side, Brandon Stevens has been just 524 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 9: getting worked. And when you watch him, he wears number 525 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 9: twenty one in quarterbacks number huh. 526 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterbacks exactly. 527 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 9: Quarterbacks when they have targeted him have have had damn 528 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 9: near a perfect quarterback rating. 529 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: Is what's happened. 530 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 9: So yeah, so through four games, through four games, yeah, yeah, 531 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 9: so he is. He has been. It has been a 532 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 9: real real issue. Like I say, he will he will play. You'll, 533 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 9: like I say, you'll see Gardner either play left or right, 534 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 9: and then what happens Stevens goes with the other receiver 535 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 9: and so then he's kind of left in that in 536 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 9: that mode. And people teams have stayed away from Sauce Gardner. 537 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 9: There's reasons why. I mean they just he he that 538 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 9: just the way I described him. He's that type of player. 539 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 9: But on the other side, yeah, Brandon Stevens has had 540 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 9: his share of proms. Now, you know, can you win 541 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 9: teams in the first four weeks have been able to 542 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 9: win against Stevens. You know, can you set things up 543 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 9: to maybe where can you put and we we talked 544 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 9: about it earlier with uh. You know, with Pickens, he 545 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 9: doesn't move a whole lot. Remember when you have Lamb, 546 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 9: which you could do with Lamb you can play him 547 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 9: left or right and you could also put him the 548 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 9: slot to get away from that type of coverage. Well 549 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 9: if Pickens, Pickens just doesn't go in the slot. Well 550 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 9: this is so Now this is a game where it's 551 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 9: going to have to be. If it's again no Turpin, 552 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 9: then how's Tolbert, how's uh, you know, how how are 553 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 9: they going to Flinoy. How are they going to play 554 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 9: and they're going to have to play at a pretty 555 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 9: pretty high level. Now, this team, I mentioned earlier that 556 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 9: they rushed the passer in a way where their their 557 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 9: pressure generally comes from really one guy at will McDonald 558 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 9: and he wears number nine. When you watch him play 559 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 9: the sacks he had, he was really really good against 560 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 9: Pittsburgh and then they then they've also played Buffalo and 561 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 9: then Tampa Bay. He had a nice game rushing against Tampa. 562 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 9: He blocked a field goal that and returned it. You know, 563 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 9: he's a He's a quality player. He's kind of a 564 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 9: thin built guy, but he's going to come flying off 565 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 9: the edge. So you'll see him playing both on the 566 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 9: right side and the left side. They kind of move 567 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 9: him around trying to kind of figure out where the 568 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 9: best matchup for him is. But he is the guy 569 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 9: you're going to have to be concerned about. Quinn Williams, 570 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 9: the defensive tackle, would be the next guy I think you. 571 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: Really need to know about. 572 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 9: He's a guy that did He's from last year he 573 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 9: wasn't so much a pressure player, which was funny. He 574 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 9: now in this scheme with Aaron Glenn, He's done a 575 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 9: much better job of forcing pressures, controlling in the middle. 576 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 9: He could be a hard guy to block one on one. 577 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 9: This team has struggled with though. When you watch them play, 578 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 9: is they're struggling in the running game because they'll take 579 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 9: themselves out of positions. There'll be a lot of times 580 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 9: where all of a sudden, snap the ball, they'll slant 581 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 9: and then they're out of position and they don't recover, 582 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 9: they'll miss a tackle, then it's a big play. You 583 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 9: can watch ten plus runs against these guys. They did 584 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 9: a great job against the Steelers Notepenny Day, and you're thinking, like, whoa, 585 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 9: you know, Steelers didn't have a run over ten yards, 586 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 9: They didn't have a they were average, like right at 587 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 9: three yards of carry. But since then, some teams have 588 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 9: been able to kind of move the ball on them 589 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 9: a little bit running. But I think a lot of 590 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 9: it is kind of a self inflicted with their movement 591 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 9: and then they don't react very well once the movement, 592 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 9: they go one way, take themselves out of play, and 593 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 9: then the ball is passed them that way. So Dallas 594 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 9: might have an opportunity to run the ball against these 595 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 9: guys again, can you take advantage Williams has done a 596 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 9: great job of taking the ball, reading the blocks and 597 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 9: then making the cuts. That's something you're going to have 598 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 9: to do this football game as well to to kind 599 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 9: of to kind of get that done. So attack Brandon 600 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 9: Stevens the corner number twenty one. Be ready for Sauce Garden. 601 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 9: You're walking with Pickens or traveling with Pickens, got to 602 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 9: make sure you find them. 603 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 10: Well that's uh, we got a botch here in the 604 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 10: in the chat like yeah, like a true YouTuber. 605 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 8: He's in here in the chat. 606 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 10: He said, tell Brian that Sauce travels because the other 607 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 10: corner of DJ Reid is gone, and that Pickens has 608 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 10: filmed from last year whooping Sauce Ye, So even. 609 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 7: Having him travel with him, there's there's there's reality. I 610 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 7: me he can he can handle it, thickets cap. 611 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 612 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 9: I can say I didn't go back to watching the 613 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 9: Pittsburgh last year film with this, but I did watch 614 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 9: Pittsburgh this year which is opening day. But yeah, that's 615 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 9: great watch you. I appreciate you doing that. Safe travels 616 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 9: to you, man. Uh, but yeah, this to me that 617 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 9: if you're gonna throw the ball, it's gonna be on 618 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 9: It's gonna be on this this corner. 619 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: Stevens. 620 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 9: I think that Andre Cisco, who they signed from Jacksonville 621 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 9: as a safety, I think there's gonna be some opportunities 622 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 9: in the middle of the field. Teams have run some 623 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 9: crossers and stuff where the safeties have had to pick up. 624 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 9: They do play a lot of man coverage, they they 625 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 9: but they've allowed the second most yards allowed this season, 626 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 9: playing the most, playing a ton of that man coverage 627 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 9: and they're gonna stay in it. So the completion percentage 628 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 9: is really really high against these guys too, So, but 629 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 9: it's gonna be about. 630 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: Pressure, you know. 631 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 9: Can they find a way with will McDonald to get 632 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 9: pressure Jermaine Johnson, you know those guys are and then 633 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 9: also with Quinn Williams. But that's kind of where this 634 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 9: defense is at right now, is that they've got some 635 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 9: really good players. They just really haven't put it all together. 636 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 7: Yet looking at what they've done. You mentioned the run 637 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 7: defense against the Bills in Week two, they gave up 638 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 7: two hundred and twenty four yards on the ground. 639 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: They were really bad. 640 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, against the Bucks, they gave up one hundred and 641 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 7: twenty two. Against Miami, they gave up one hundred and 642 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 7: twenty three. When you think stylistically and schematically how the 643 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 7: Cowboys like to run the ball. They've had a good 644 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 7: running game I think so far this season. I don't 645 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 7: think they've had a game yet where they've relied on 646 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 7: the run. When you think about again, schematically what Dallas 647 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 7: likes to do and schematically what these other teams have 648 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 7: had some success like to do, how well do you 649 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 7: think this matches up as a game where the Cowboys 650 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 7: could possibly lean heavily on the run. 651 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 9: They could, They could absolutely lean heavily on it, though 652 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 9: I do worry, Like I say, if we'll see with 653 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 9: with no Guidon, I think that might help you a 654 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 9: little bit more because I think Thomas has a little 655 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 9: bit more power if Geyiton were to not play in 656 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 9: this particular game. You know, I think that, you know, 657 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 9: it's going to be about Dallas has had the ability. 658 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: They've done some. 659 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 9: Really good things you mentioned scheme wise running the ball, 660 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 9: but they've had Hunter Lipkey at times has missed some 661 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 9: blocks you know the other day. You know, with they're 662 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 9: still getting a lot of good workout of span Forward 663 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 9: and what he's been able to do at the point 664 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 9: of attack. I you know, with McDonell and then and 665 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 9: then Johnson, I lean on these guys. These are like 666 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 9: these it's kind of like what you see with the Giants, 667 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 9: those those tall, long pass rushers want to get up 668 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 9: the field. I think that, you know, Dallas can hammer 669 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 9: on these guys a little bit that way. And Williams 670 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 9: has done a really good job. Wherever the hole has been, 671 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 9: they've done a really good job of his He's found 672 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 9: that hole and been able to attack it. He's he's 673 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 9: not dancing around. He's just going to go. He's gonna 674 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 9: get his four and a half yards five yards, get 675 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 9: back for the next play. And that's where I think 676 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 9: that you have to The Jets have had some problems 677 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 9: in the game against Buffalo, they had problems with tackling. 678 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 9: I mentioned in the Dolphin games tackling. They get backs 679 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 9: that all of a sudden, they're kind of bouncing through 680 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 9: there and the next thing you know, it's you know, 681 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 9: they don't get a tackled and it's an even larger play. 682 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 9: So you just got to kind of I think Williams 683 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 9: can have some success scheme wise. We've talked, we've seen 684 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 9: the polls and things like that. Which you have to 685 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 9: worry about with I mentioned earlier with this jet Stevens 686 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 9: is they'll they'll move, they'll take the front and they're 687 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 9: trying to move it to where they'll take a risk, 688 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 9: and like they'll slant it strong, and it's run them 689 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 9: out of some plays. It's run them out of some ties. 690 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 9: All of a sudden, they're all slanted and now the 691 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 9: ball's going the other way, and now everybody's out of 692 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 9: position and they've the one thing the stewards did to 693 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 9: him pretty good was take them one way and then 694 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 9: take the ball back the other way. It wasn't running 695 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 9: the ball that way, but throwing the ball. We've seen 696 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 9: Dallas with the waggles of boots. It just shows you 697 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 9: how how much they want to try and get after 698 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 9: the ball. And so they're gonna they're gonna gamble that way, 699 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 9: and you know in this game they might catch a 700 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 9: couple of times, so they slant right into what you're 701 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,239 Speaker 9: doing and then be able to make those plays. 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At the start, we got about 780 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 7: nine minutes left on the show. Let's talk about Jaden Blue. 781 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 7: As I mentioned earlier, my BI is concerned if Turpin 782 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 7: can't play is who will give the Cowboys offense the 783 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 7: speed that it needs in order to make it dynamic. 784 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 7: Jayden Blue is a guy that has some speed. He 785 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 7: has not been active through the first four weeks of 786 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 7: the season. Is this the week that it should happen? 787 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 7: And how much does he help this offense if it does? 788 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: Gives an answer A g. 789 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 10: I'm reading all the comments here, people asking for Jaden 790 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 10: Blue to get in there, and we were talking about it, 791 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 10: right and during the preak week he better. Ye, there's 792 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 10: no other option. I think. 793 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 8: What week five now? Correct? Week five? 794 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: That shoot, it is crazy. 795 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 10: But what we've heard, let me say this nicely, what 796 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 10: we've heard about him is that maybe he's not kind 797 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 10: of up to speed on some of the things that 798 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 10: need to happen on the offense when you're talking about 799 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 10: the different plays and you know, knowing the playbook. But 800 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 10: I say, if you go back to how he was 801 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 10: in the hook and world, he seemed to be a really, 802 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 10: really good player when he was on the field and 803 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 10: not dropping the ball and fumbling. The point I'm trying 804 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 10: to get you got drafted for a reason. You got 805 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 10: drafted for a reason. A lot of studying happens with 806 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 10: player analysis before they get drafted. It is hard for 807 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 10: me to understand. If he doesn't play this weekend, it 808 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 10: would be very difficult for me to understand. And now 809 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 10: I'm sorry it's so difficult to understand. You drafted him 810 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 10: for a reason, and now it's time to make it happen. 811 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 10: You have to find a way to maybe simplify things 812 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 10: for somebody to get them up to speed. I think 813 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 10: five weeks is more than enough. This is the right 814 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 10: time for you to come in and bring that juice. 815 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 10: I think he's the only other guy that provides that 816 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 10: kind of speed if you were to compare him to 817 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 10: a Kavanta Turpin. So going based on what Brian is saying, 818 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 10: he'd better be on that field this weekend because I 819 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 10: think we might get surprised and see some of the 820 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 10: things that he can bring to the team to that 821 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 10: hook him thing. 822 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 7: Derek, No, I mean I've said since before they drafted him. 823 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 7: I thought he's a good player. I thought the fumbles 824 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 7: were the biggest issue with him, and my hope is 825 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 7: that that's been corrected. 826 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 8: Well, we saw a training camp. He looked good. 827 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's also I never trust a running back 828 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 7: in training camp, because until they have pads on and 829 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 7: people are actually hitting them and taking them down, it's 830 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 7: hard to really know how good of a back they. 831 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: Can really learned that, you know, Williams, Yeah. 832 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 7: Exactly, And so I just I still look back to 833 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 7: what he was at Texas, And I was telling somebody 834 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 7: this the other day about him at Texas. He was 835 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 7: the kind of back that didn't need a lot of carries. 836 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 7: He didn't need a lot of opportunities. We could be 837 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 7: in a game that was just kind of a man 838 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 7: a slug fest. It's kind of a defensive game, and 839 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 7: then all of a sudden they have one handoff to 840 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 7: Blue Boom, He's gone touchdown and it could be forty yard, 841 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 7: fifty yards whatever. Right, That's what I saw from him 842 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 7: a Texas, and that's what I think the Cowboys could use, 843 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 7: especially while Ceedee Lamb is out and if Cavante Turpin 844 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 7: is out. 845 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: He will give you. 846 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 7: That home run ability on any given play if you 847 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 7: get him in the right situation. And if the issue 848 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 7: is if the issue is that he's not picking up 849 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 7: everything that he should do and assignment sound, then the 850 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 7: way I would look at it is, let me give 851 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 7: him four or five things. I'm gonna be like in 852 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 7: this game. These are the things we need you. 853 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: To focus on. 854 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 7: And I need to make sure you're very capable to 855 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 7: do these four or five things during this game. And 856 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 7: that's how I would use him. And I would just 857 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 7: throw that wrinkle in there. He's gonna give He's gonna 858 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 7: be my wrinkle guy. He gives me the wrinkles that 859 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 7: I need for this offense to throw the Jets off 860 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 7: a bit when they think they got a beat on 861 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 7: what we're doing. 862 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 3: Coaches are weird cats, you know. 863 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: They are really good, way to put it, the weird cats. 864 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 9: And they will they get very comfortable with how things 865 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 9: are operating. And you know the running back room is 866 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 9: you look at the running back room for the Cowboys. 867 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 9: It's the first four weeks of the season. You say, man, 868 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 9: that's been a nice surprise. You know the way that 869 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 9: these veteran guys. And and I totally agree with you 870 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 9: on Blue studying him, watching him play and you know, 871 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 9: watching him play in college, and then you know he 872 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 9: does he does bring a juice. But coaches are weird 873 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 9: in the way they do not want to put somebody 874 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 9: on the field that's not absolutely sure their assignments. You know, 875 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 9: the one thing that's great about Blue is he'll play 876 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 9: special teams for you too. Yeah, you know, I mean 877 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 9: here's a guy that you know, you thought about, Wow, 878 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 9: University of Texas a split time, and you know you're thinking, 879 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 9: you know, kind of that kind of a back and 880 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 9: you can actually go out. 881 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: And tackle on kickoff coverage. That's encouraging. 882 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 9: So yeah, you're not you know, you going to get 883 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 9: a guy that's going to be able to do those 884 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 9: kinds of things if he's if he's dressed this week, 885 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 9: which I think he will be. I think this is 886 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 9: the week that everybody gets to see Jaydawn Blue play 887 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 9: football and hopefully, you know, in the post game, we're 888 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 9: gonna be talking about what a what a major contribution. 889 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: He made to this, to this attack because Derek and 890 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 3: just No fumbled. 891 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's hey, it's he. He is a 892 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 9: he could be a very special player. So you know, 893 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 9: I'm excited to see what that brings. 894 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 7: Real quick, before we end the show, I did want 895 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 7: to get just some evaluations on a couple of players 896 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 7: from this last game. 897 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 3: TJ. 898 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: Bass and Brockoffin. 899 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 7: Talk to me about what you saw where they were 900 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 7: good and where they have some things they really have 901 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 7: to work on heading into this next game. 902 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, the the things this early in that game, the 903 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 9: second level blocks were just not I mean, they just 904 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 9: could not get there. We saw early the first couple 905 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 9: of drives that it looked like the ball was going 906 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 9: to the outside and then you had Walker and these 907 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 9: running backs running without anybody really you know, cutting them 908 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 9: all off for getting in their way. So that's that 909 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 9: was you know, early in that game was an issue. 910 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 9: But then you know, I felt like that of the two, 911 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 9: I felt like the bass was the one, you know, 912 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 9: run and pass a little bit better. I kind of 913 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 9: felt like there was some times in the passing game 914 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 9: where Hawpmin was you know, he's hanging on for dear 915 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 9: life and that kind of is the way he's gonna play, 916 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 9: and not These these linemen, even the great ones, aren't 917 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 9: perfect all the time, but you're in a situation where 918 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 9: you know they're gonna fight and they're gonna do They're 919 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 9: gonna they're not gonna they're gonna be very assignment sound. 920 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 3: They're gonna help each other. 921 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 9: They worked the whole time together too, during during a 922 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 9: you know, the training camp. You remember every preseason again, 923 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 9: they played every offensive snap those two guys, So that's 924 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 9: a benefit for you right there. But yeah, I think 925 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 9: that if you said overall, who was the one who 926 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 9: had the better go of it, run and passed, I 927 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 9: think Bass was that guy and then Hopman was right there. 928 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 9: But you know, you can't you can't fault them. They 929 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 9: they had a difficult assignment the inside the inside three 930 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 9: for the Packers, and then having to deal again with 931 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 9: those linebackers were really really tough too. 932 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 10: I think with Hoffman, we've seen the power that he 933 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 10: brings and the aggressive net that he brings. But the 934 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 10: thing with him is just mainly making sure, hey, don't 935 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 10: draw any penalties, you know, keep it cool, keep it calm, 936 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 10: be aggressive, but know your limits. 937 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 8: But with TJ. 938 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 10: Bass, he's a guy that since he's been here, even 939 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 10: though he's not always like he's not the star on 940 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 10: the team or anything like that, but anytime you ask 941 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 10: anybody else, like any other offensive line player or coaches, 942 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 10: he was always a name that was brought up as 943 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 10: someone that has been standing out and has been impressive 944 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 10: and that they're looking forward to seeing more of him. 945 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 10: So that just that tells you a lot when everybody 946 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 10: else in that room is giving you that name specifically, 947 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 10: and this has been since prior years, so I think 948 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 10: he's very much capable of taking care of the job. 949 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 10: I think it was just being more consistent and just 950 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 10: taking advantage of that opportunity. But I do have a 951 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 10: lot of faith in what he can bring. 952 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: All Right, I appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be 953 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 2: back tomorrow. 954 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 7: We will wrap this thing up and get you ready 955 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 7: with our final thoughts of Cowboys versus Jets in New York. 956 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 7: Till then, for Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I am 957 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 7: Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas 958 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 7: Cowboys dot Com Radio. 959 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 960 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.