1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: About to have Dustin Lynch on here. He just left 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the house. Uh yeah, I don't forget. Check out Amy's 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: podcast Four Things with Amy Brown. I'm looking at my email, Mike, 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: do is anybody who can up about our producer's job yet? 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Not yet? I usually get those pretty quick. Yeah, I've 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: been hit up by everybody, and good like there are 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: a couple of people like background to our show. Our 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: head producer is leaving to go work for me in 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: different capacity on my management team, which my management team 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: looks over like books and TV and even radio a 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: bit and just pretty much everything I'm doing touring. Um 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: so I need someone over there. So I've asked Morgan 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: number one to move over to that side, and it's 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: a promotion for her, but that means I gotta find 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: a new producer, like a new head producer executive producer 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: on the show. And so yeah, man, everybody I know 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: wants the job. I don't think people just even know 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: what the job is though, and I put on Twitter 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: it's a pretty heavy job, and so you know, people like, hey, listen, 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I I did you know two years of media in 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: college and I love it. And shoot your shot, everybody, everybody, 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: shoot your shot, but it's it's a tough one. There 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: are some of my friends I'm even having to go. 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't quite know that you're you're ready for this yet. 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, a hundred and fifty cities in 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: the USA. In Canada we do night shows all over 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: the country too. We have a countdown, we book guests. 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: You have to manage all the morning show staff. You 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: have to work with sales the mornings, that part of it, 30 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing, pitch segment, ideas, manager schedule, I'm traveling. 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: It's just a lot um but it's great that we 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: have so many people like trying for it. And I'm 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: glad everybodys raising their hand. I would raise my hand 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: even if I wasn't qualified, because a few people fall through. 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna be there waiting. But I 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: just wanted if you've been hit hit for it now. 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: I usually get those emails like, hey, here's my res 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: b throw Bobby, let me know what you do? All right? 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: All right, well, um, Caroline Hobby has a fantastic podcast 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: and she has on Katie Cook from cmta's really it's 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: a really good one. It's great in there, which he 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Cook doesn't so much just talk about herself, but like 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton Stories, Blake Shelton Stories. Um, just if you're bored, 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: check that podcast out, like if you're like man, she 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: talks to really interesting women, some of them having wives 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: of country stars. But it's called the Get Real Podcast 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: with Caroline Hobby and I hope you checked that out. Um, 48 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: I was just talking about the producer's job. I'm just 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: looking at my email because we just did you know, 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes with Dustin and have like eleven 51 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: of them just about that job. And I have to 52 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: have the awkward call with some of them. It's like, hey, 53 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that this job and I don't like 54 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: having to have that conversation, but I do so Mike, sorry, Budd, 55 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: you can't have the job. Yeah yeah, And I get out. 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: You know what else, I get a bunch of relatives 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: and twenty three and me. I get those all the time. 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: It's like, do you have a new relative? They want 59 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: to reach out to you. It's like my ninth cousin 60 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, that's I'm gonna dance with the stars. 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Were related? Uh so I haven't done that. This is 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: not a commercial. By the way, they're not I don't 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: think the response are they of podcast? Um? Yeah, all right, 64 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: anything you'd like to say? Am I missing anything? Check 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: out also store Losers, there you go, and Velvet Edge 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: and Velvet Sage. Um. All right, here's Dustin Lynch. That 67 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: the newest episode of the Bobby Cast. Kind of good 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: to get a man and gather on the show a bit. 69 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: He's coming out a few times. I don't think we've 70 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: ever really hung out socially though. Um, we've seen each 71 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: other like a a couple of festivals. But um, I think 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: as long as we ever spent together and we were 73 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: naked the whole interview, we weren't just half of it. 74 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: All right, here's Dustin Lynch. Hey, welcome to episode with 75 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: Dustin Lynch. I didn't see you drive up. They did 76 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: say you got your early, which I love. I'm such 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: a proponent of early, man. I I've been in the 78 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: studio and we got done, and I'm like, well, I 79 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: might as well get over there early. I don't know 80 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: in the studio I was afraid I would beat you here. Well, 81 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: you're ready, man, I came from the gym and I 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: can put on my best Jorgs. I don't know if 83 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: you noticed it summertimes and uh, I did try to think. 84 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's appropriate the word of Bobby cast whatever 85 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: you want, and I just went with comfee. Man. But 86 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: you've been so you've been in the studio doing what. 87 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: But we were writing today. Yeah, I'm like, I'm in 88 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: this weird zone of need a couple more songs. I 89 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: need to write songs, a couple more songs for what 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: for the next album to make sense. There's there's a 91 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: few songs that we have that won't make sense until 92 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I find the two I'm trying to find. So you 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: need a bridge in between, yes and see, like you 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: and See, you're just trying to find those be songs 95 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: that kind of close it up. Yeah, I have like 96 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: really well written, meaty songs, and I just need I 97 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: need that song that people want to dance and drink too. Well. 98 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: It's it's usually the other way around, I know it 99 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: really yea where people like we got the party songs. 100 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: We're just trying to find those song, those deep songs 101 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: that kind of express how I feel. The elusive up 102 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: tempo for me. Man, It's it's tough. I can't do 103 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: certain things I've learned, certain like the farther get in 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: my career, the smaller the bulls eyes gotten because I 105 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: know who I am, which makes things frustrating, it really does. 106 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: So who are you writing with? Today? Um? I was 107 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: with will Weatherly. I was with Jaren Johnson of Three, Um, 108 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: which I love, dude. We hadn't written in a while. Um, 109 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: and uh, James McNair. So you go into the room 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: and do they already know what you're looking for? Like 111 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: you just told me, like you're looking for that that 112 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: we'll call it the B Gap song. Do they know 113 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: you're looking for that song? Or do you guys all 114 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: go in and don't Really? I kind of direct them, 115 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: you know. Um. And I've been blessed to be able 116 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: to write with people that kind of know what I 117 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: am now and know what I do and know what 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: I need. Whenever I say, hey, I need a song 119 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: that gets people up in the arena or the amphitheater, 120 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: they know what that means. So, um, we instantly, you know, 121 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: gravitate towards a certain thing. Did you finish it today? 122 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: We did? Yeah. Actually they're kind of guitars on it 123 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: right now. So I kind of earlier. Once I sang it, 124 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: isn't it exciting to like get that song back? That's 125 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: like after you like you've you've written it all day. 126 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: And I do this with a lot of comedy songs 127 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: that we write. But you're right it all day and 128 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: then it feels good. But when they sit and they 129 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: because you're not, it's not that the song that's gonna 130 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: be on the record. But still it's kind of cool 131 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: to hear the demo back. Yeah, it is, And and 132 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: that's changed. I've been doing this long enough to it 133 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: used to be when we started, man, it was just 134 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: us and guitars in a room, and then you kind 135 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: of just had a recording on your phone and and 136 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: then you had to go back in and demo with 137 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: a whole band three weeks later and then wait on 138 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: that to get done. Now it's I mean tonight or tomorrow, 139 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: I'll be riding around at the song we wrote today. 140 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool. I was talking to Garth Brooks 141 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: this morning. We're talking about school, and there was a 142 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: story about because Garth had some stuff at school where 143 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: he wasn't always the best student. Yeah, Elvis had some 144 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: stuff where he wasn't the best student and it's something 145 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: where all of us is kind of seeing music. And 146 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: the teacher was like, I don't know if this thing 147 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: is for you. Yeah, yeah, like all of us. I 148 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: don't know, a little Elvis, I don't know if music 149 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: is your credit. I was reading this thing about you 150 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: where you gotta see it in music. I did my 151 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: only see in my life really vocal music, yes, and 152 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: vocal music. Vocal music. So tell me about this class 153 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: you go in and how big is the school you 154 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: went to? UM? I graduated like fo Yeah, so pretty big. 155 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean we were the big town of of my area. 156 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: We had Applebee's and the movie theater. I think we 157 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: had eight theaters in it, so we were kind of 158 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: the We were the preppy kids of the county, right. 159 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: Everybody hated on us because we had a movie theater, Applebees. 160 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: But UM, vocal music too was a class everyone took 161 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: if they wanted to be in chorus. I guess junior 162 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: and senior year, which was kind of the cool kids 163 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: thing to do other than sports. And I gotta see 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and I couldn't get in. Well why would you get 165 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: to see? Were you not a good enough singer? Did 166 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: you not know? I think it was I was talking 167 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: to a lot of girls like in the back, wasn't 168 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: paying attention, so you were goofing off the Yeah, I 169 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: think that's what it was. And you didn't get into chorus. 170 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: So then what you do? Just a band? No kidding? 171 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Start um now, now I probably would have anyways, because 172 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: two of my guys in my band we're in the 173 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: course as well. But um, that was kind of my 174 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like I like being the underdog man. 175 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: I like having a chip on my shoulder just the 176 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: way I'm programmed. I think my dad's programmed the same way. 177 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Other than that, you though you're a great student. Yeah, 178 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: I love school, man, I love working hard. I wasn't. 179 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: It didn't come to me easy see. I got to college, 180 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: um from a golf scholarship, believe it or not. How 181 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: it got to Nashville and David Lipscomb and I fell 182 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in love with I was good at biology in high school. 183 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: I fell in love with As a freshman, what do 184 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I want to do? I apology? I'll take apology, of course, 185 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: and I did, will at it, and then that led 186 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: to another bology of course, and all of a sudden 187 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm in love with science and 188 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: outdoors and how plants work. And um, I'm he's that 189 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: huge outdoorsman. And I fell in love with how the 190 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: body works. Human body is amazing machine. Let's back up 191 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: to the golf scholarship. How good of a golfer were 192 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: you in high school? Um? We were the first player? 193 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Were you number one? I was number some weeks, number 194 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: two most of the time behind my actual my college roommate, 195 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: um Cody, But yeah I was. I won my senior year. 196 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: I won regional. I guess it would be right before 197 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: State by seven shots. Jeez. I was like Tigers the Masters, 198 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: like man. I was like, I'll never forget that day. 199 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: I could not make a bad sling, I mean or stroke. 200 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: It was awesome. So you're playing golf though at an 201 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: elite level. Were there golf courses in your town? Yes? Yeah, 202 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: we had a few. Yeah, and you're such a you 203 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: didn't been played basketball football? I didn't know I really 204 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: wanted to play football. Um. If I would to play football, 205 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have payed the guitar up. 206 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, that was kind of my 207 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: crutch of And no one cares about the guys that 208 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: aren't on the football field. What can we do? And 209 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: you can hang out up parties after after the football game, 210 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the guy picking guitar gets 211 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: all the attention. I'm amazed at all of you guys 212 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: that are such good golfers. Because there's you and there's Jay. 213 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: There's something too. But I think maybe we we were 214 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: good at golf because we were I don't know. I 215 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: wasn't big enough to play high school football. I got 216 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: my bell around at an early age. I was like, 217 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm out, this is this is not for me. Um. 218 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: I put on all my weight after college. Really, I 219 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: was a scrawny, scowny human. How good of a golfer 220 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: are you. I'm still fascinated with this good at golf 221 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: because I played golf forever and I couldn't shoot blow eight. Yeah, 222 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: it's a tough game, man. I played, of course, I 223 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: played every day for twenty years. Um got a full 224 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: ride of college that was back whenever could write, uh, 225 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you got more, if I qualified for 226 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: more scholarship, they wrote you checks actual cash here, go 227 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: rent a house or buy clothes or whatever. And you 228 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: didn't play golf through college? Yeah. I played all the 229 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: way through college. Yeah, all for years. I stay good 230 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: enough in college of really fell in love with music 231 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: and chasing that because I found Tin Roof on the 232 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Burming Street, which is you know, I don't know if 233 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: it still is, but back then wasn't the college bar 234 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: to hang out for for the lipscom of any kids. 235 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: And started playing there as a college kid. Dude, when 236 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: you have your Friday night and you're playing for tenda too, 237 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: and you're all your friends from college campus are coming down, 238 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: and it was insane. And so that became my love 239 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: and passion. And I would stay purposely stay good enough 240 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: at golf to keep my scholarship um obviously, because that's 241 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: how I pay my way for school. So you're living 242 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: in Nashville, you're playing golf, and you're you're playing music. 243 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: What are you kind of feeling the bug for more? 244 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Though music for sure? Yeah, I never had it mentally 245 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: to make it professionally as a offer. I don't know why. 246 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: I just could not get over uh whatever hurdle that 247 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: was in my brain. I don't don't know if it's pressure, 248 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I was never good enough 249 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: or maybe mentally I get the ball good enough, but 250 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: I was never mentally good enough to win it. What 251 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: was it? You and Nashville when you're playing music, where 252 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: you go, oh, I think they can do this for forever, Like, well, 253 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: I know I was having fun at first as a 254 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: college kids, you're making good money on the weekends, not 255 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: only getting a party with your friends, but you're getting 256 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: paid to parties for friends. Um. And then those parties 257 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: turned into frat parties at other college campuses. And whenever 258 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you start traveling and people want you to come to 259 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: their party and host the party, and and you see 260 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: that one invitation my first ever was at ut Knoxville 261 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: is a crawfish boil on a Thursday afternoon, I think. 262 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: And after we play that show, like three more frats 263 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: called him. When you were booked. The next month, three 264 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: frat shows up there, and you know they they've got 265 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: mom and dad's money, so they're paying us thousands of 266 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: dollars to come hang out, play and de craws fishes. 267 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: That's a confidence builder. This is like, oh, man, I'm 268 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: doing something right. And uh, are you playing in a 269 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: band or you just Dustin Lynch. Yeah, I was doing 270 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: a band. And then we would got there, me and 271 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: another guy as an acoustic guitar. Does you have a name? 272 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't think we have ever had like a in 273 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: the you know, a band name. But you're playing these 274 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: uh frat parties, these sorority parties. I mean, as a 275 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: twenty year old, nineteen year old making good money, making 276 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: good money, don't know how you stay focused on playing golf. 277 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,239 Speaker 1: It was tough because I would have to go, Um, 278 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: you play all night and then or even if it's 279 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: in Nashville, you play all night and then at six 280 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: am you're on a bus rolling to whatever golf course 281 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: to walk eighteen and play a practice round. And then 282 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: we played Monday Tuesday, eighteen thirty six. We had to 283 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: walk thirty six sols um on Tuesday, so or maybe 284 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: it was thirty six eighteen. I think it was thirty 285 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: six eighteen. But it was a long day, long days, man. 286 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: And then I have to you know, also do well 287 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: in school, and you do finish school. I finished. Yeah, 288 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: it's crazy that you're here, you know, when you're doing 289 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: music on a large level, but you stayed in school 290 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: and finished. I promised my parents. You don't wanted to 291 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: do that. And and also I mean Um, I wanted 292 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: a little bit of a backup plan. I think that 293 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: it's scary jumping out and trying to do music for 294 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: a living. Um, but I knew I had to give 295 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: it a shot. Um. Yeah, I graduated and and actually 296 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: got and I did all the med school prep stuff. 297 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: So I did. Um it's called the MCAT. So that 298 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: was like a prep class for a surgeon. Yeah. I 299 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: want to be a surgeon. That instant gratification. Man, you 300 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: fix somebody that's broke, Like, what's what's up with that? 301 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Like why a surgeon? Where did you see surgery or 302 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: a surgeon? And that was like I said, I think 303 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: I should do that. Um, I think just being around 304 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe being around doctors at the golf 305 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: clubs or something that had the nicest cars. It's probably 306 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: you think about to you know, sixteen year old me. 307 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: Maybe why I thought that would be the past for me, 308 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. But you love music more than you 309 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: loved That was a tough conversation man, because your parents 310 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: and and also inter dialogue too was like, you know, 311 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: having fun and making money, making good money, playing these 312 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: crap parties, wedding receptions and um, but then you have 313 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: four years of hard heart work in dedication that is, 314 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, the premit degree. Yeah, there was a turning point. 315 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: It was actually um at my buddy's house over here. 316 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: I was helping him bartend for one of his mom's 317 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: she's a a big time lawyer, but she was holding 318 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: the conference and one of the guys there was a surgeon. 319 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: He came to get a drink and he's just being nice, like, man, 320 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: what are you studying the college? Is it? Man? I'm 321 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: actually to graduate. I want to be a surgeon. And 322 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: he goes, I'm a surgeon. Don't be one drab, just 323 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: drink and walk off. I was like, what did that mean? 324 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's funny you remember that though likesion? That 325 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: was it? That was it? And then so then that 326 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: really gets your wheels turning, like, don't be one. Um. 327 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: I think the whole insurance thing and made a switch 328 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: at that time with UM. Maybe it's Obamacare or something. 329 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, but I don't know 330 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: if that's what that comment was about. But it started 331 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: making me wonder and I was like, you know what, 332 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: I've got to give us a shot. I can't. I 333 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: feel like I'm having so much fun, and I feel 334 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: like I'm good enough to give us a shot. I 335 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: can remember another turning point, U I lost sleep for 336 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: weeks over trying to decide if I wanted to try 337 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: out from Nashville Star. Yeah, the old TV show, old 338 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: TV show. I think Miranda Casey was on there. Remember 339 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: the year I was. I was like losing sleep over 340 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: what do I do it or not? The first episode, 341 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: christ Young comes on and sings and I was like, 342 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: thank God, I didn't try out like you out. Unbelievable 343 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: I've ever tried out, and that was a blessing. Were 344 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: they trying to get to try out someone can watch 345 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: you from the show? Not at all. I just knew, 346 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, at the time it could be kind of 347 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: a cool thing. And I think I'd gone to watch 348 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: a taping or two. You know. Now they do ringers 349 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: though ringers maybe isn't the fair word, but they'll do. 350 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: They'll go to YouTube and I'll find people who are 351 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: really good, and like half of them, they don't want 352 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: to just trust straight the audition pro I wouldn't either, 353 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: probably casting director, I wouldn't just go. My entire show 354 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be based on who shows up, Like who 355 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: wants to stand in line, so they go when they 356 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: find That's why I asked you, like, did they have 357 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: you kind of set up to go on? But I 358 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: guess pre that one, so everyone about going on this 359 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: show and stand in line for forever. So he didn't 360 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: go on National Star. When did it start to happen 361 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: for you? When people started sniffing around, going hey, maybe 362 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: maybe pretty good, Like we may can do something with 363 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: you at a record label or a publishing deal. Like 364 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: when was the first time you were getting paid more 365 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: so than just to go out and play these parties? Yeah, 366 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: it was. It was. I got a cold call from 367 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: an old golf room teammate, his coworker. It was a 368 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: son in law of my future manager. Was the Sun. Okay, 369 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: so he's like, man, I got a friend that sayings 370 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: check him out, and that guy heard it and sent 371 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: it to his father in law, who ended up cold 372 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: calling me. Um. At the time, I was working at 373 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: an environmental lab in Nashville just to kind of have 374 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: a day job as well as still doing my frat thing, 375 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: making good money there and playing at the bars too. Um, 376 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: you're playing weddings too. By the way, I was playing 377 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: weddings Yeah, the college kids graduate and then they go 378 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: get married. Man, they haven't be back. What was the 379 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: one wedding song that you'd play the vanil at every time, 380 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Like the one it was like, this is the one 381 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna everybody's gonna get up and dance out of 382 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: slow dancing. Man. You know there's the classic shout. I mean, right, 383 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: you guys play shot absolutely, man, we go nuts. I 384 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: had a guy that that would I would. I was 385 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: always smart because I can't everybody likes eighties and I 386 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: can't say eighties stuff that well. Um, I would always 387 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: have a guy in the band that could just rip 388 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: eighties music, So I would do all the country hits 389 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: back then. Wagon Wheel was bigger than life back then. 390 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Like that's twenty years ago, right, uh um, and then 391 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: we'd rip into some eighties Um. Yeah, living on a Fair, 392 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff. It still works, honestly, it's 393 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: still you still go to like these Broadway bars and 394 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: it's the same white people dancing to these same songs. Man. Right, 395 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: it's the same deal. This guy calls you cold and 396 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: you pick up yourself phone and you're like hello, he 397 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: says what he says? Hey? Um, this this is pete 398 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: hard tongue. Can I say his name? I guess I can. Um. 399 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: And I managed an artist, brand new artist that we're 400 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: just getting started um the name of Justin Moore, and 401 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a single here in the next year 402 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: or so. And I would love to I've come across 403 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: your MySpace page. How long ago this was, and I'd 404 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: love to meet you in person. Man, I love what 405 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: you I'm a big fan. I love it. Do you 406 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: love to meet you? And I went over to his 407 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: house and uh, I went up into his bonus room 408 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: and play him a few songs that I had written. 409 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: And I was scared of death, uh, you know, because 410 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: it's just taking a call from a guy you don't 411 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: know that has an artist that hasn't had any success. 412 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: And but hey, it's a call and you go do it. 413 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: We hit it off and within two weeks, man, he 414 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: had me uh at Big Machine Records in the office 415 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: and because just Justin big ye yep. And so we 416 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: went in there. Man, I can remember I got out 417 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: of his car. Of course he's coached me up, you know. 418 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: And what does he tell you before you walk in, Like, 419 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: what does he tell a brand new artists going into 420 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: a label. Yeah, So he was like, just tell me 421 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: who's gonna be there, and kind of what was gonna happen. 422 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna play song for this guy? And UM, how 423 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: deep you want to get in the weeds of this? 424 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Very much? Okay? So I go in and actually Justin 425 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: was with Valerie Music, which is considering kind of an 426 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: imprint of Sure. And so I'll go up up there upstairs, 427 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: and at this time they had had Reeba McIntire, they 428 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: had Jimmy Wayne, just A Moore, maybe Brenton Gilbert. I 429 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: think I think it's right there. Um. And so I 430 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: go in there and I play, I play a couple 431 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: of my songs, and I was I was gonna say, 432 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: I remember, like yesterday, I get out of his car 433 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: and I'm so so nervous. I get out of his 434 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: car and I like brush my pants and I realized 435 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: my flies wide open, like walking across music road. So 436 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: that's how my days started, Like oh jeez, yeahs impot 437 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: my pants. Walking there, start playing songs and I think 438 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: it was my second or third song. Um. The VP 439 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: of Valerie at the time, his name is John Loeba. 440 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: He turns away from me and starts typing on his 441 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: computer and I'm just like, so you feel like i'd 442 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: like they're not feeling men. I was like, this is okay, 443 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: I get I'm catching the dose here, turns back around, 444 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: all right, play me another one. Um, and then goes, hey, 445 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm opened the door real quick. And he opens at 446 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: the door and there's two girls on the floor with 447 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: their ears listening, and he goes, I want you to 448 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: know how excited like, I apologize for typing. I was 449 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: actually answering their emails. They're trying to figure out who 450 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: the heck in here singing because they're in love with you. 451 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I wanna offer you record bill like that out of nowhere. Um. 452 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Two weeks after getting this call from Peat and so 453 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: me is a science nerd, we're going to lab at 454 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: a job. I hated, uh playing frat music. All of 455 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: a sudden, I've got a record deal and published a 456 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: deal on the table like that. So what does that 457 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: mean for your life? Though? How does your life change 458 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: when they go, hey, you have a record deal? I 459 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: mean obviously you don't sign something right there. No, not 460 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: at all, not at all. You gotta get somebody on 461 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: the phone man like I. Of course, this is. You know, 462 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: the industry is evolved greatly since I was, since two 463 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: thousand eight or whatever that was nine. Um, but you 464 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: know I'm I'm here in hindsight to come in a 465 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: record deal, in a publishing deal. Those words mean nothing. 466 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: Uh that gets you nothing. All that really does is 467 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: sign your life away to someone else. Um. Because you 468 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: fast forward. Uh. You know, we went by and forth 469 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: to aango your question for months and months. I'm trying 470 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: to what's a fair deal? What's not a fair deal? 471 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: Do I want a day job doing? I want a 472 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: day job, don't want to you know, publishing deal that's 473 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 1: gonna pay me a little bit, allow me to focus 474 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: just on music. It's tough, especially for twenty four year 475 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: old kids. It has nothing going on. You know. It 476 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was in the system of Nashville. I 477 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: didn't have anybody. I was just doing my frat thing, 478 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: trying to figure out who do I meet to go 479 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: get co writes and how do I get a publish 480 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: and jo I didn't know anything. Um. I didn't have 481 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: anybody holding my hand. You know, there was no family 482 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: member ahead of me that did it. I was just 483 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of out in the Ocean, Shread and water. So, um, 484 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: you do now I know how kind of how this 485 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: story ends that you're not with Big Machine. So yeah, 486 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: so John um part of his deal when he signed 487 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: his contract over there, he got to sign an act 488 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: um of his choice and I ended up being the 489 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: one the card he wanted. So the guy that was 490 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: typing who turned around, you thought, man, he's not feeling 491 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: he's the guy that signed you. It was this one 492 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: like golden tick that was it and and so um man, 493 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: life's good. We end up getting the deal done. I 494 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: don't have a day job. I'm focusing straight up on music, 495 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: and I start writing and I'm writing, and I'm writing, 496 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm writing. I write a song called Cowboys and Angels, 497 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: and there's a moment where I go, man, this song 498 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: feels different. Uh, there's something deep down inside and know 499 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: this is special, and I'm excited. We going to play 500 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: it and for the bing Machine team, and they're not 501 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: excited at all about it? Um why because it was 502 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: so cowboy or maybe so yeah, I don't know. You know, 503 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where that song is every 504 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: song is not for everybody, and maybe that song wasn't 505 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: for for them. I don't. I'm not sure, but that 506 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: was a bit of a that was a tough pill 507 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: of s fault. We could not get any participation from 508 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: that label to give me a photo shoot, nothing to 509 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: really get the ball rolling. So John ends up getting 510 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: frustrated over that and some other things, I guess, and 511 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: ends up going to Broken Boat Records. And so I'm 512 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: stuck at a label that wants nothing to do with 513 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: me because your champions not with you. By the way, 514 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: they never they never messed with cowboys and angels. No, no, 515 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: they didn't like it at all. You go over to 516 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: Big Machine and how does that work? Or excuse me 517 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: to Broken Bow? Yeah, so I think did John still 518 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: get to have you? So they end up, you know, 519 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: doing a deal and buying me out of my record 520 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: contract with Big Machine. And was that a weird time 521 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: in between? Well? It was tough because here I am, 522 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: I've sawn my life away. I can't do anything. I 523 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: can't I don't have any money to you know, I'm 524 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: just paying rent with my frat party stuff and what 525 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: little pubs can draw. I was getting and trying to 526 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: write um and so yeah, you know, you fast forward 527 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: a couple of years and I was able to get 528 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: over to Broken Bow. They bought me, I guess out 529 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: of my deal and um, then Cowboys and Angels was 530 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: sitting there ready to rock and they felt differently a 531 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: Broken Bow. Yes, they said, this is access that we love. Yeah, 532 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: and so we went out. Man, we cut four or 533 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: five songs and uh often you know, they had a 534 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: plan in place. Off the radio tour went and this 535 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: song came out and man, not knowing any different, it 536 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: was an amazing I but now knowing how hard that 537 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: is to do to put out a ballot, put out 538 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: of but not only about it, just the first thing 539 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: one get a song at the charts. Yeah, yeah, this 540 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: thing was. It changed my life, you know, it did amazing, 541 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: amazing things and still is my favorite song play out 542 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: is it? No? I don't think so. I know, but 543 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: this is not one I can cut and it's it's 544 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: the one that started us. There's so many um guys 545 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: and girls that come back repeatedly. Um, maybe this is 546 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: the song that brought them together at the concert the 547 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: first time. And now they've got kids together, you know, 548 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: they keep coming back and dancing to it and all 549 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: every time. So was this a big song that was 550 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: played a lot of weddings, and honestly, um, I found 551 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of a formula there early on in 552 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: my career where the song is that people can That's 553 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: what I was doing. I was playing wedding receptions, so 554 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: I think as a writer, I was grabbing from from 555 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: those experiences. There's a song called Daddy's Boots I have 556 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: that It's from us specific wedding reception in Kentucky where 557 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: this guy was just falling crying watching watching the father 558 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: daughter dance and that's kind of when inspired that song. 559 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: So those first couple of records, I had some songs 560 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: that were kind of directly from that frat party, wedding 561 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: reception type of you know this one, I'm going to 562 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: Heaven head of trying to feel your Daddy's booze, you know. 563 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Angels peaked at two. Yes, not a lot 564 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: of songs. It's crazy. There are not a lot of 565 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: songs to stop it too. And I stuffed it too 566 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: behind my label mate Jason Aldean, which means you're label 567 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: was kind of in the they were totally in on it. Yeah, 568 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: so uh yeah, take a little Ride by Jason Aldean 569 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: song kept it out being a number one. I always 570 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: think back to like my my career, and I feel 571 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: like I'm just getting started, but I've been put through 572 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: the wringer man is an artist of like getting a 573 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: deal and they'm not even want to do anything. Then 574 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: finally I get this song that gets my life going 575 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: as an artist, and then it stops at number two 576 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: for through, you know, and then it takes me a 577 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: few years to get another hit on the radio. It's crazy. 578 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: Was it frustrating? And I know the ANSWER's gotta be yes, 579 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: but was I'm gonna ask you to say it was 580 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: a frustrating that didn't hit number one? Yeah? Because this 581 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: town is so funny. There's no celebration. There's no plaques 582 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: unless it hits one. You know they could and and 583 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: a lot of artists there there step out songs you 584 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: know or you know, let's take Luke Bryan for instance, 585 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: the country girl Shake It from Me. I think out 586 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: the five Yeah, no party for that song. Keith Urban's 587 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: had a bunch that didn't hit one that are massive, 588 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: massive that no parties for some of those songs, Chesney. 589 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: It's just funny as a town in an industry, we 590 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: don't celebrate career changing songs we celebrate a stat on 591 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: the chart that could be, you know, a flash in 592 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: the pan type of song you mentioned it took a 593 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: while to you can know the song on the radio. 594 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: So what happened? What what did you put out that 595 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: came out after that that didn't work so hot a 596 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: RADI there was a lot of confusion of we had 597 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: Cowed was an angel, so obviously we need tempo next. 598 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: Can't go slow slow, so you gotta go slow and up. 599 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: And we had we had a really a song doing 600 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: really well. Um that was a little bit slower, A 601 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: couple of couple actually, and we we felt victim of 602 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: the radio tour. I think we had cowboys and Angels. 603 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: And then we had another slow song and then a 604 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: tempo which was she Crates My Tractor, which is the 605 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: silliest song I've ever written in my life. Um, so 606 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: everybody you know that we're listening to out there, the 607 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: programmers go, man, we want the tempo next for sure. Well, 608 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I had written eight more songs 609 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: after the radio tour that may have been better candidates. Um, 610 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: this song came out and did what it did. It 611 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: was fine. And then because this song existed. You were 612 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: kind of pinned into it. It's what you're say a 613 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: little bit, but it did its thing. I mean, it's 614 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: still um. The next the next step is where we 615 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: took a bit of a tumble. I was talked into 616 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: recording a song I hated really um because as a 617 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: new artist, I got my way with all the other songs. 618 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: And uh, who now, who talks you into it? Is 619 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: that a label? Is it management? Because people try to 620 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: talk me and we're all victim of being led when 621 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: when we're not overly sure and almost arrogant about it, 622 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: we can be led into directions by people that we 623 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: feel like no more than us at times. Yeah, yeah, 624 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: that happens to me all the time. I was I 625 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: remember this call. I was out in front of my 626 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: girlfriend's house at the time, and I repeatedly said, I'm 627 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: not I don't like the song, I'm not doing it, 628 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: and I got a call it says, look these other 629 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: however many songs are on the first album. I think twelve, 630 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: these other eleven songs, we're kind of you and your 631 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: producer's choice. Give the owner of the record label one 632 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: song we promised we won't single, just just go record it. 633 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: Oh this is even about a single? This is this 634 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: is the old just to get you to record it, 635 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: so so I'll record it, go ahead. And the reason 636 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to record it because it's not what 637 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: we could do well. It's not what I could do well, 638 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not what my producers do well. And we record 639 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: it and U that was angels success. Tractor hits a 640 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: ceiling because it's goofy and whatever, but this thing is cool. 641 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: And then I get the song that wasn't not going 642 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: to be a single that I didn't want to record, 643 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: um chosen for me to go next? The label picked 644 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: it as you're single? And uh man, that was that 645 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: started a dark dark my first dark time as an artist. 646 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: And what do you want to say? What song that was? 647 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: While your smile? You know what? And we don't even 648 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: have that was not even happen, is it? We have 649 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: it up? So okay tell me sorry Red Akins, I 650 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: don't and I don't even think he'd mind. I don't think. 651 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: So you didn't want to cut this? Why do you 652 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: say you didn't do this? This wasn't for you? Um? 653 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Like what about the vibe? Where you going? You know? 654 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: This isn't what I do well, it just did. It 655 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: wasn't me at the time, man, Um, I didn't like 656 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: it at all. Well would you have put out from 657 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: that collection that would have existed? It wasn't a single, 658 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: but I can remember very specifically. Uh. It was our 659 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: first tour stop of my very first two or ever 660 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: with Keith Urban in a little big town. We're in Cincinnati, 661 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: and he called me on the bus after my first 662 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: step and I'm freaking out. I thought I did something wrong, 663 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: and he goes, man, great job. Uh, and I think 664 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: Nicole was on side stage. My band's freaking out, you know, 665 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: because it's our first tour and I so he goes, man, 666 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: great jobs. I'm like, all right, I relie, I want 667 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: you to come out and sing with me tonight. What song? 668 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 1: And uh? So we go through that. I'm like, all 669 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't want it's take a first, She'll come in 670 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: and do that. And then he looks at me. He 671 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: goes tell me, uh, why didn't you put out last lap? 672 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: And it just broke my heart, man, because it was 673 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: the song that I knew we should have done. Um. 674 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: And then for Keith Urban to invite me on tour 675 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: because I think he thinks we're gonna put that song 676 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: out and then we don't do it, um and I'm 677 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: having to sing a song every night. I don't like, Uh, 678 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: what was tough man and and but a great lesson learned. 679 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: Here's the deal um and and knock on wood and 680 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: I hope it continues. My gut hasn't been wrong so far, 681 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: um and so I'm just that that right there in life, 682 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: I think you. I think he got through almost like that. 683 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Where if that didn't happen, I don't know if I 684 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: would learn the lesson of trust your gut, you know. 685 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know that you would have all the 686 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: success that you've had based on you learned so much 687 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: from now you've been able to make really great decisions, 688 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: but maybe even better decisions than you would have made 689 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: should not even happen. Yeah, without a doubt. And I'm 690 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: always good with bombing out if it's my gut, the 691 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: bombs out, because then I don't wonder, Yeah, like if 692 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I screw up, or I write a joke and I'm like, 693 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about this and it doesn't work, 694 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, that was that's on me. I would rather 695 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: be on me if it doesn't work then to God, 696 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: I wish I just would have trusted me. So no, 697 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: I get it, And I think we learned Listen, I 698 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: did a whole book on I think we learned so 699 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: much more mistakes that actually in the end, like the 700 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: net wind, is so much more than if the mistake 701 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: would have never happened without a doubt. This is otis 702 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: gray And for this season of On the Job, we're 703 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: hitting the road to tell amazing stories of real people 704 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: and their lives, working from a young woman making dolls 705 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: for an underserved market to folks falling in love at 706 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: the office. Each episode will so prize you. And just 707 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: when we thought it couldn't get any worse, we got 708 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: the job from hell. Check it out by searching for 709 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: On the Job from Express Employment Professionals, in the I 710 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app or wherever you listen. So okay, So, 711 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: so that song doesn't go well wild and you're smiling, 712 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: then what how you say? A dark time? Like what 713 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: happens in an artist? Dark time? And we think everything 714 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: is wonderful and you're famous and you're making music, But 715 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: what's a dark time? Board? Yeah, because because now you're 716 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: second guessing, you come out and you have this gigantic 717 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: career song, and then you know, something that was kind 718 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: of whatever, and then I miss um and and everybody 719 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: in my hometown, including my family, were like, dude, you're 720 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: rich and famous. Oh my goodness, which is whatever you think. 721 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: Guess what, Yeah, making no money out there. Um, I'm 722 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: still you know, at the time, I was just now 723 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: kind of have enough money to pay rent because I 724 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: wasn't playing frat parties that pay well anymore. I'm playing 725 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: free radio shows. You're actually making way less. Yeah, there's 726 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: no income now. Um, even with a number one song, 727 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: there's no income because when we go play shows, now, 728 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: I've got how much expenses that going to put on 729 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: a show and a bust in the whole deal and 730 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: just to get in the wheat. A little deeper is 731 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: that these Fridays and Saturdays that you've been working before, 732 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: where you've actually had money coming in, now you're you 733 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: can't even go do you can't even do that because 734 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: those Friday and Saturdays are taken up by you doing 735 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: free shows. So the ability to even try to make 736 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: money doesn't exist for you anymore. Exactly. You know what, 737 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: I think that's I didn't understand that until I kind 738 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: of got over and and what's see, my friends do 739 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: it and you make less money when you're assigned artist, 740 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: at least in the whole beginning part of it, without 741 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: a doubt. So okay, it's you're finding songs, you're writing songs. Yeah, 742 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: so now it's okay, can we do this again? As 743 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: a young artist? You go, man, and I just get 744 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: lucky once. Um, you know, as a writer, as do 745 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: you get one hit wonder in your head started around 746 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: a little bit and uh, man, I had a very 747 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: and I gotta go do this again. Um. We worked, 748 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: we worked really hard on writing and trying to find songs. 749 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: And of course we're playing shows and getting the tour 750 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: and that brings on, you know, relationships and new experiences 751 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: and getting to see the world. And um, we we 752 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: cut our first handful of songs for the next album 753 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: with a new producer. UM that I was kind of, hey, 754 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: go try this guy. But I was also working with 755 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: with Prett Beavers, my my producer from album one. Um, 756 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: and I said, man, I just need to get away 757 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: for a minute. Let me I want to go to 758 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: the West Coast and rent a car for a few 759 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: days and just drive, uh the out there. One of 760 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: my reps lives on the inland side. I guess San 761 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: Jose of what would that be, Um, Santa Cruz so 762 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: nor yeah, north, So I jump over the mountain. I 763 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: drive from Santa Cruz down to Big sur and I'm 764 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: listening to these new tracks we cut. Man. I've never 765 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: seen that part of the world in my life, and 766 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: such a spirit, spiritual, just mind blowing. Ah. Drive me alone. 767 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: I had a right orange charger driving coast Man and 768 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: listening to new music, and it was like a light 769 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: bulb went off. I said, Oh, this is next, this 770 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: is this is what I'm supposed to say next, And 771 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: it was where it's at, and um, it just jumped 772 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: out out there and and came back and and uh, 773 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: that was a song that kind of just threw in 774 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: the mix last minute of that first batch of songs. 775 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: And we just found something magical in the studio and 776 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: it made sense for me to do. And and we 777 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: hadn't you know. All I knew is my gut told 778 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: me that should be first. And all of a sudden, 779 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, country radio just embraces it and we get 780 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: our heart on the verge and cut boom um your 781 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: first number one. Yeah, it's multi weeks. Man, it's a 782 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: big one, yea yea Is that this ended up landed us? Yeah, 783 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: this ended up landing us. Uh but Luke Bryan's who 784 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: are the first time around? This song? That's pretty cool. 785 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: You get a flag now, yeah, I gotta get a trophy, 786 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: you get a party. It's a little bit. It's gonna 787 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: be a little bit of relief. Right sure, you're not, 788 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, lou Bega. Now you have more than Mambo 789 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: number five for sure. And then but then this tops 790 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: out and then what you gotta pick the next one? Well, 791 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: and that will always be the process though, right as 792 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: you see now it's absolutely and it's never in. It's 793 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: never and um there's never a sure thing, man, which 794 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: keeps it exciting. I've learned instead of stressing about that, 795 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: it's it's about enjoy the ride. Okay, but you've learned 796 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: that after some success, that's true. Like I always feel 797 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: that way too, Like I, you know, I learned after 798 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: all the struggles. I wonder if I didn't find it 799 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: and it had continued to struggle, if I would still 800 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: have learned the same lesson. I can't imagine not having 801 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: a miss um. That'd be tough where it's at hits 802 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: and what's next? Uh next? To continue the story? Next, 803 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: I want a fall. Victim of this label wants this song. 804 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: I want this song. So they put out a third 805 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: song that we didn't want. So that was the compromise. 806 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: We'll put out that. Nobody wants her, you get her. 807 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: Um so okay, So what happened? What was that? One 808 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: hell of a night? And in neither one of you 809 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: guys were that wasn't your first choice? No, I wanted 810 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: it fourth. I think I wanted mine reader and then 811 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: I forget now, but hell haven't I went number one? 812 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: If I'm right? Okay? So so but you guys second choices. 813 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: You must have a bunch of music on this record. 814 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: We did, we had, we had some good stuff. There's 815 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: still a couple of songs that maybe three songs on 816 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: that album I think would be hit this one. It's okay. 817 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: Then then who gets the next choice? Though you get 818 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: to go, you get the next pick or today? Um no. 819 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: At this point still they're still kind of running things, 820 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: all right, and I kind of you have to earn 821 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: your I think it's a young artist. You know, it's 822 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: my money. I'm gonna pick the song because I'm with 823 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: an independent label. I'm not with some giant conglomerate well, 824 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: and also there is some some currency to the label 825 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: picking it and then having more invested in it, absolutely, 826 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: both with their money and their minds. Sure, because if 827 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: they've picked it, they're a little more responsible for it, 828 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: no doubt. And I mean even the specific people. If 829 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: you're the VP of X y Z picks that song, 830 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: you don't think they're going to be in the mixed 831 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: fighting for that thing all the time. Yeah, Whereas if 832 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: it's your song and they argued against you, they still 833 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: wanted to do well. But like human nature is I 834 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: told you exactly so mind Raader hits, then what comes 835 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: after that? Um gosh, this is You've got so many 836 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: I know it, it's tough. What is next? Is that 837 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: hell of a night? Hell of a night than mind 838 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: Raator right? Seeing red, I got you covered? Thank you. 839 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: I's trying to think about set list another number one. 840 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: At this point, you gotta feel pretty good, like the 841 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: world is your waist. You gotta feel that, Like do 842 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: you ever think, all right, I'm about two songs wife 843 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: Entertainer of the Year, Because I won't be thinking that. 844 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: I would be like Dan, I can't I can't be 845 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: go into that with you. Actually, yeah, go ahead later 846 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: on if we can do that. Absolutely, Uh seeing Red Hits, Yeah, 847 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: that was man, it's fun. We're rocking at this point. 848 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: We're we're two years into Luke Bryan tour. Man. I 849 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: mean we're playing Wrigley Field and massive massive two nights 850 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: in a road to let massive massive numbers. Man. So 851 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: we're in front of a lot of people in life 852 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: is good, it's easy, it's fun, such a funny and 853 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: it's a great camp is great to our west. So 854 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: we're having a blast. Small Town Boy was freaking awesome. 855 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: Here's this one. This one to me was another like 856 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: you you made it. You were climbing slowly, but this 857 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: was a just like a boom, like somehow you got 858 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: to jump up a whole other notch with this long 859 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: did you feel that way? And um, I actually argued 860 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: against this song, believe it or not. Um, So you know, 861 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: the story goes both ways. I'm glad that my label 862 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: pressured me and going no, I think we think this 863 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: is the right move. Here's why. Okay, let's do it 864 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: and kaboom a big one by changing good girl you 865 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: first number one of the song writer. Yeah, he's gotta 866 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: be cool, right. I remember you bringing this one in 867 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: and going, well, this is just my recollection. You're like, well, 868 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: we're just gonna put this out. We don't have anything 869 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: to go with it, just that we just have the songs. 870 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it. And and now I think 871 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: this year that was last year. This year, I think 872 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: everybody can kind of consume that a little bit easier. 873 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: And last year that was kind of odd to do. 874 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: The album we put out was only a Current Moves, 875 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: only about eight months old when we did this. So 876 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: but now it's like, man, you write a song, your 877 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: start about put the dang thing out of it out. Yeah, 878 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: it's it's not even crazy to take it. And you 879 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: feel good about a demo put on Instagram if you 880 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: really want to, Yeah, for sure, because if you can 881 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: get anyone to pay attention to at any point, that's great. 882 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: That's because everybody there are ten thousand things coming to 883 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: people from ten Yeah. I was scared to death if 884 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: I had to wait two years for another album, cycle 885 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: or whatever for that song to come out, that it 886 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't make sense. And it made sense to do last year. 887 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: From my life. So you know what I love is 888 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: to love me or leave me alone. I told time off. 889 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: When there's nobody around, I don't need to have a 890 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: radio or a phone or I would love to release 891 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: this one day, man. I just you know all these 892 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: factors go into can that be a radio hit? Is 893 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: it too slow? Is it too bare? I don't knows you? 894 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: And can fare chot from a little big down. I 895 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: think this shows the importance of getting to tour with 896 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I never would have had the guts to 897 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: ask kar and fair Child to sing with me and 898 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: my wife. It may still not, but we're out on 899 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: tour together and it felt comfortable to do um and 900 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: that magical moment happened because of that. I bet you 901 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: that's a song though too that even though it wasn't 902 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: a single that people know. It's hard to have songs 903 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: that people know that aren't single. I gotta do something 904 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: really special This past fall with Lauren Elena, she was 905 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: out with with Cole and I and she would come 906 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: out and sing to you pop out on the second 907 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: verse and singing that song with me every night. It's goodness. 908 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: I took her out and she opened for me doing 909 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: stand up for a bunch of shows, and you've we 910 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: and we live in this world where we go and 911 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: do our thing on the weekend, so we don't see 912 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: everybody else do their thing right, and then we come 913 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: back together and you guys will come into my show 914 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: or I'll take heart, but you don't see people really 915 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: do their thing in their own elements. So many times 916 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: because we come we kind of get on this even 917 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: plane where we're like this, like I'm not watching you 918 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: do your thing on a big stage. You're not watching 919 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: me on a stage of comedy or so. But when 920 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: you like you watch I see Laura before and I go, 921 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, like you forget how good she is. 922 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 1: She's unbelievable, like really one of the best singers. Yeah, 923 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where she would come out 924 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: and sing, and after after she get all the stage, 925 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: I would question how am I a singer? Like how 926 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: am I hope you're doing this? And then after that 927 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: tour ends, we gotta do let me or leave me 928 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: alone without her? It doesn't feel right anymore. Whose things 929 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: the other part? And you want you no one if 930 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: you think all of it. Yeah, that's by keyboard players 931 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 1: doing some harmonies, but I mean, it's not Laura Atlena. 932 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: Come on, it is the gym. It is the jam though. 933 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm glad you dig that one. I was 934 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: watching your vlog. Did you have you have the flu? 935 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: Huh oh yeah, and you're had to play sick? Yes, 936 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: all right, so tell me your your guidelines on sick 937 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: and performing. I've never, um, I've had to cancel one 938 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: show because of food poisoning in my career. Um I 939 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: actually that was the first time I tried to fight 940 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: it off that, you know, organically. I guess I easily 941 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: could have gone I got a steroid shot and probably 942 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: would have kicked that, no problem. Um. I just wanted 943 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: to try to sweat it out and do it the 944 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: the natural way. In hindsight, I probably should have just 945 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: got a steroid shot. Been fine, That's what I do, 946 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: and it's always not good for me long term. You're right, 947 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: because it's not the best thing for us is to 948 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: do the quick hit. But then you go, okay, well, 949 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: I've had two weeks of craftic performance and I feel 950 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: I just feel guilty. I don't know if anybody can 951 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: can tell, but I feel like I know I can tell, 952 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm not putting on the best show I 953 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: could if I was just taking a shot and people 954 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: can't really tell, Like I've been to shows and watch 955 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: people have been like, that's a great performance. I talked 956 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: to him after, like I've been feeling terrible. You can't 957 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: unless you're falling down. You're really can't tell. For me 958 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: if it's my throat, Like, if I can't talk, I'll 959 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: shut it down. Were with Mike Iowa. We did two 960 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: nights in Iowa Casino. I was really sick. Yeah, it 961 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: was in Iowa. I mean I was. I was so 962 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: sick and all I wanted to do is make it 963 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: to the show. You just want to get to that 964 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: point because when you go on, you do get a 965 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: little adrenaline. And it wasn't my throat, but I was 966 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: like poving myself. It was coming out every hole. There 967 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: was a hole there was and um and I got 968 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: through it. Okay, did you have to leave midway through 969 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: the show? I kept thinking I was gonna have to, 970 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: But did you let the crowd in on that? No? 971 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: Not if it's my throat. If I my voice is 972 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: a bit gone, I'll acknowledge it. If it needs to 973 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: be acknowledged. Only once because it gets annoying because it's 974 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: not as big a deal of them as it is you. 975 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: But I were I'm not kidding. I had black pants on, 976 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: so I really wasn't that nerves by craving myself. If 977 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: I just cried myself, I'd be like, hey, I'll be 978 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: back right right, But um yeah, but I feel like 979 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: for me, I had to removed myself from from stage. 980 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: Uh down in Mexico. Could you get sick water? Yeah, 981 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: bad fruit or something. And I just told the crowd 982 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: it was a pool party that crushed my plan. I said, hey, 983 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: the beers are running through me. I need to go 984 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: take a leak, and went compute and other things in 985 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: the bathroom and came back and finished the set. You know, 986 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: it was really complimentary of you, and that pool party 987 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: is carried Luke's manager because look, and I did I 988 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: don't think we've done I don't think it last tweeters 989 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: and she was like, you gotta come down, and she 990 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,959 Speaker 1: was showing me a video of you at the pool party. 991 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: She was like, Dustin owns this pool party and people 992 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: as far as you can and I'm right right, like, 993 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. There are people in the water. Yes, 994 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: ours and their elbow to elbow packed in and you're 995 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: up on You're up on the stage crushing it at 996 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: the pool party. And she's like, Dustin's made this his 997 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: own thing, Like this is like he's so prideful of 998 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: how great this pool party is. It is, man, I 999 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: kind of want to like I want to see if 1000 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: we can grow it into you know, other spaces. I 1001 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: promise you that's not the only pool people want to 1002 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: get in and do that, you know. So it's like, boy, 1003 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: they're they looked awfully closed standing well. I think it 1004 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: was year three. I finally told everybody said all right, 1005 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: because they get there. I think we'd show up at 1006 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: two there and they're tim waiting on us to get front. 1007 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: That's like, you guys, realized you've been in the sun 1008 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: and drinking all day and no one's getting out of 1009 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: this pool. So what do you think is happening. It's 1010 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: like everybody just don't touch the water. Everybody's just being 1011 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: on each other. Whatever. You get recognized about the cowboy hat, yeah, 1012 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 1: I do. Now think it's because I started flogging yeah 1013 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: um and posting more on social with my ball capp 1014 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: or no hat or whatever. Are you ever not going 1015 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: to perform on stage with the cowboy hat? Have you 1016 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: not performed? I don't know if you've ever done it. 1017 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: I see you without the hat. I only see you 1018 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: without the hat. Fact. Yeah, I feel completely naked without 1019 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: it on stage. Luke used to We've got saying with Luke, 1020 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: and he used to trade hats with me, and that 1021 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: still felt weird in the ball cap. He'd switch it 1022 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: up and did grab your hat and put and that 1023 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: felt funny to you? Um it did? Yeah? Uh yeah, 1024 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know how to be man. 1025 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm gonna change character 1026 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: whenever I put the hat on. You know, Yeah, I 1027 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: get that, like I I wear my big dark rum 1028 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: glasses because to me, it's a bit of a hide 1029 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: behind something that is a character almost in yourself. I 1030 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: mean I'm the same way with my hat. Brown Man. 1031 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: I cut light and you know what was up with 1032 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: the hat? Why had the hat at the beginning? Like 1033 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: you thought I'm gonna perform on stage with the hat? Yeah, 1034 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: I was in and out of it, like the frat 1035 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: party days. I didn't have I had just like a 1036 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: buzz cut um and then I wore cowboy hat, but 1037 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: it was it wasn't the right fit, and then it 1038 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: was it was a bit of kind of collaboration with 1039 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: management and my label and then obviously cowboys and angels. Okay, 1040 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: it makes sense to let's keep the cowboy hat luck 1041 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: and go with that. Do you have a deal with 1042 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: cowboy hats now? I do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I 1043 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: started wearing the one that that I found that fit 1044 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: my face. That's the main thing with the hat's just 1045 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: gotta fit your head in your face and so you 1046 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: don't look like a weirdo. Um was a two thousand 1047 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: twelve resist all and they stopped making them. That was 1048 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: only year they made them had happened. And that mean 1049 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: I'll just buying them at boot Barn or whatever trap, 1050 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: whatever Trail West or whatever is downtown. They're gone. I'm like, man, 1051 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,919 Speaker 1: I need some hats, So like, will we stopped making those? Well, 1052 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: we can't stop making those for me because this is 1053 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: my look. So now they have a press, just still 1054 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: make that one. I don't think they sell them. I 1055 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: think they're just making for me. You know you you're 1056 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: making it though, when you're getting your own special hats made, 1057 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: they tell me about this entertainment of the year. Talk 1058 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: to me, so what is it? What? What do you 1059 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: what are you gonna ask me about that? A lot 1060 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: of thoughts about this UM and and this is something 1061 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: I want to continue to ask close friends. I guess 1062 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: why not do it on here? Right? I want the 1063 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 1: whole world to know. UM is the constant battle of 1064 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: what other than hit songs, big hit songs? We know 1065 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: that that helps. How do you get from my level two? 1066 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 1: That next step? It's funny that you say that because 1067 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: you're in that that middle, the middle, like you're not 1068 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 1: a new artist. I say, there are five levels, right, yeah, 1069 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: what's it? Call them f we'll go backward. Hey, abc DF, 1070 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: we'll call him like the five grades. And that's not bad. 1071 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: But we're gonna say that's the brand new artist. Okay, 1072 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: So everybody knows A and we'll put in the A 1073 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: category the Luke Brian, your superstars, that Keith Urban, Miranda 1074 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: Lambert's the church but they carry underwoods. That's a right. 1075 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: And I would say with you, you're in that bottom 1076 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: of the b you know, it depends how much people 1077 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: know your music, maybe in the very tip top of 1078 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: the sea, but you're right there. In that spot and 1079 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: you've done a great job. I think freaking small town boy, 1080 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: he kind of put you into that B level. Like 1081 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: we talk about moments, moments are the things that move 1082 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: you up a level. Moments or slash and doing things 1083 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: other people can't do. For example, Eric Church goes out 1084 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: in place four hours now, he should be in the 1085 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: conversation for entertaining there without doubt, without it doubt with 1086 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: doesn't have a bunch of hit songs. Now, he does 1087 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying in comparison to someone like Luke, but 1088 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't all. He also doesn't walk the same highway 1089 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: to the store that Luke does. And for him not 1090 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: have hits is fine. He doesn't. He's not an artist 1091 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: that's based on hits. He can go and play for 1092 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: four hours. We sell at the freaking football stage. We 1093 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: were talking about that today in co right. You know 1094 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: how Church has his fan base. It doesn't matter what 1095 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: he puts out, they're in, they're in. And I think 1096 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: that's a big thing right now. Part of his brand 1097 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: is not playing the game at all. If he and 1098 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm not telling him to and I'm not John Pizza 1099 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: his manager, and I love him, But if he did 1100 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: a bit. I think he'd win it, Yeah, I do. 1101 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 1: But but part of his brand is he doesn't play 1102 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: the game, and good for him, Like he does what 1103 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: he wants to do like a loop. Look smash mash 1104 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: smash mash mash mash, um and Lucas has a distinct 1105 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: sound when Luke opens his mouth. Hey you I mean, 1106 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean he's so distinct. He's on television now as 1107 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: a judge on UM the Middle of America Hit Show. Right, 1108 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: but that was hit hit hit hit hit, So to 1109 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: move you all you need those those moments like Stapleton, 1110 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: his his album sales. He sells albums like nobody sells 1111 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: albums and for a long time. Who I think now 1112 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: is quickly and he's not going to be it now. 1113 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: But because he streams so high, who to look out 1114 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: for his Luke Holmes and he doesn't. You don't look 1115 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: at him ago Entertainer of the Year because he's just 1116 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: a normal dude. That's his appeal. But I think he's 1117 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: really Him and Kane Brown are the guys that have 1118 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: come around because they're in the class after you, maybe 1119 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: even two classes after you. Um, they're in the classes 1120 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: after you that I think they're about the only two 1121 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: stars so far that streaming is really made like that. 1122 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: They're big, like streaming has been a huge push for them. 1123 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: Radio has two. But I think streaming is really um so, 1124 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: I think it's a moment, a moment, distinction or in 1125 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: a combination of some you can't not have hits, right, yeah, 1126 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: you can't not sell shows. Um So, I think a 1127 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: moment something big, a song that's so big that's the 1128 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: thing is like what now you go, okay, well, what's 1129 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: a moment you can undefinable at what a moment is? 1130 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: Is it a song that just comes out like an 1131 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: old town of road right that just everybody loves and things, 1132 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: or is it a Stapleton where what put him on 1133 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: was singing a cover at the c m as which 1134 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: people know that song from him now Tennessee Whiskey, But 1135 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: that was a cover with him and justin Timberlage. So 1136 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: it's not just having a massive amount of success. There 1137 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of people who have a lot of success, 1138 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 1: but who's and I would say even like a Keith 1139 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: Urban who's in who's in his fifties now, I think 1140 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: there's something to Keith and his kind of his comeback, 1141 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: no doubt. It's almost like I was talking with Red 1142 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: Side stage watching watching TR the other night, because you 1143 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: know TR, TR and I got and we text about this. 1144 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,959 Speaker 1: When the tour announced, It's like, man, I can't believe 1145 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: this is real life. Uh, we just met seven years 1146 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: ago and we're having lunch with your dad and I 1147 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: was asking Ran, I'm like, how in the heck because 1148 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: I think TR sold out? You know, the two are 1149 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 1: sold out all weekend, and it's like, how in the 1150 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: heck are there twenty two thousand people here tonight singing 1151 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 1: and dancing to these songs? Like what is the difference? 1152 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 1: And he talked about, Man, it feels like to me 1153 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: because RT's been around longer than we have right in 1154 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: this business. And he says, you look at your superstars 1155 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: and let's consider that t R is one because he's 1156 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: selling out the same antheaters Luca is right now, and 1157 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: you go, there's always something more than the music with 1158 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: these guys and girls. Um, like the storyline of him 1159 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: and Lauren or it was kind of tough to the 1160 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: point of what Luke's is. I mean, he's got a 1161 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: bunch I guess um. He had a breakout performance with 1162 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: with country girls shaking from me at the c mt S. 1163 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: I remember that. I think Luke, though a bit is 1164 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 1: before like he's had so much, but again, he's so distinct. 1165 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: I think his distinction helps him a lot. Yeah, yeah, 1166 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't sound like anybody else. But I agree with 1167 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,320 Speaker 1: what what he what you guys are saying, there's a 1168 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: guy that there's something to it, like why he and 1169 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: Rent was saying. I thought this was so so neat 1170 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: to hear Dad saying this. He said, Man, I think 1171 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: these people have bought into the reality TV show of 1172 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: of tr and Lawrence Why Life and family just as 1173 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: much of his as his music. That's why they spent 1174 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: the money to be here tonight. Um, and it's just 1175 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: me And I told Htta said, man, I'm I'm gonna 1176 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: go to the grave with this. I'm never gonna be 1177 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: it's never gonna be good enough. I'm always gonna want 1178 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: more and drive to have more success and how can 1179 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: I do that better? And how can we reach this 1180 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: next level? Like always, I'm always fearful of what if 1181 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: I do get Entertainer of the Year, then what you 1182 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: know that's a great and then what though you know 1183 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: it is a great. And then what I think though, 1184 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: So that's like that's my new I mean, I think 1185 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: about it NonStop, dude. It's it's a it's about something 1186 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: that's more than just putting out a hit song, right 1187 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: for a single guy, you know? And I mean, am 1188 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: I boring? I don't know. I just I'm just living life, 1189 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: having fun, making is it? But it's like, is there 1190 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: enough enough of a story? You know? You just wonder, sure, 1191 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: but the story could be I mean, you're still dating 1192 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: the girl that you're dating or now, okay, so let's 1193 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: just say hypothetically that she was someone that was on 1194 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I don't know if she is was she okay? Okay, alright, 1195 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: because I don't like if I don't know that, but 1196 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: or she was another artist? Like I think who you're 1197 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: dating is part of a story as a single guy. 1198 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: I think with t R two Lauren, their kids are 1199 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: a big part of their story, like he covers them 1200 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: and makes and also to TR's credit, it's hit after 1201 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: hit and he takes chances big chances of music. Some 1202 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: of the songs is like do wop, they don't do 1203 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: this this song? This is like a nineties country song, 1204 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: and I'll do a song and he gets crushed for 1205 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: being different, which is great, which I love. I'm a 1206 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: fan of people who take chances even if it doesn't 1207 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: go right. I love chances. But you're yeah, no, I 1208 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 1: think you guys are right on. It's entertainment yours, not 1209 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: just hits. If it was number one song, but have 1210 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: a whole it'd be a whole different deal. Like Blake's 1211 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: never nominated for it, and Blake put at one point 1212 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: to get twenty number ones in a row. But you know, 1213 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: since Blake moved to l A, it's just songs and 1214 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't play the game. And you gotta play the 1215 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: game a little bit too, which Gus doesn't get it. 1216 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: Entertainer of the Year and superstar a level touring act 1217 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: or a different thing. I think that. I think the 1218 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,919 Speaker 1: Van Diagram they crossed the major cross, but they don't 1219 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 1: have to all the way. And also I don't think 1220 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: it's likely something I would say it out loud and 1221 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: be like, hey, my goal is to be entertained of 1222 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 1: the year, like I say all the time, like my 1223 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: goal is to have a late night talk show. My 1224 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: goal is to go down as one of the greatest 1225 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: radio personalities of all time. All people to consider me 1226 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: is that I think I'm the second best interviewer on 1227 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 1: the radio period in the whole world. Right now. You know, 1228 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: there's all this Howard Stern, I think still the best 1229 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: until he retires. I'll never say other way. Um, but 1230 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in I tell people what I'm 1231 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: trying to get to because then they'll at least know 1232 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: when they can help me. And you may rub an 1233 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 1: eighth of them the wrong way that yeah, you may, 1234 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: you may, but but the seventh aides that you didn't 1235 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 1: actually know what you what you want in your desire, 1236 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: and they can help you. And it's hard to help 1237 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: someone if you don't know what they want. So if 1238 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: your goal was too, hey, i'd like to be entertained 1239 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: or male vocalists for the year, like Michael. When it 1240 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: comes that voting time and people are rolling through because 1241 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: I vote on this crap, I'm on the board and 1242 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: some of this crap and I go, you know what's 1243 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of all the same, But I go, you know 1244 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: what Dustin said, this would be something he'd really this 1245 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: is one of his goals. I'll click it, especially when 1246 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: it's a toss up and you know, someone actually desires that, 1247 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: so not that that's you know, I mean, God, you 1248 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: don't need my advice, but no, I just I do 1249 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: I think, Um, I don't have the answer, you know. Um, 1250 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: it's just nice to have other opinions. I thought, rhet 1251 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: are you saying moments? Um, it's very vary insipable. Was 1252 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: just like, because you go through life and if this 1253 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: is a goal, you gotta figure out the path, right. UM. 1254 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's something you can manufacturer, and 1255 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: maybe it is. Sometimes you can manufacture it, but most 1256 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: times it comes organically and unexpected that super a tier, 1257 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: like everybody's good. You can look around be artists, the artists, 1258 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: and I use those those letters as only um indicators 1259 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: that where people are right now because because bees moved A, 1260 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: c's moved A, a's moved ds, So everybody's good. You 1261 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: in this town, everybody's good. It's like in the NFL 1262 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: where they say there's such a small distinction between superstar 1263 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: and real good players. That's what it's like here, Oh, 1264 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: without a doubt, And sometimes the good, the good performer 1265 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: has more success in there freaking amazing one because of 1266 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: a couple of decisions, someone's either made for them or 1267 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: they've made themselves tiny decisions. So yeah, it's a there 1268 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: is not a right answer I think is the right answer, 1269 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: but it's something that's outside of just music, or you'd 1270 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: see people with just all the number ones hitting it 1271 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 1: every time. What do we have up here? Mons? No, No, 1272 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about now like recently, No, like in the 1273 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: past five six years or so, like whenever they announce, 1274 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: even the Blake wanted. We're looking at the list here. 1275 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: These are CMA urban Guarth like. You can look at Garth, 1276 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: who's had really maybe I think one hit in the 1277 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: past five or six years, but he doesn't need them. 1278 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: But he goes out and he tours and he sells 1279 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: that freaking arenas four and five, six nights in a row. 1280 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: That's what's different about him is that he goes out 1281 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: and tours. I would say Church is doing his best 1282 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: best Garth impression right differently in a different way. But 1283 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: no one does what Garth does. And that's why Garth 1284 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: wins it. Man, I've got to open for Garth twice, 1285 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: unbelievable crazy, you know, he and Georgia. The reason I've 1286 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: picked a guitar up and and a cowboy hat when 1287 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: I was five, so Urbane Garth see sixteen Luke Luke 1288 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 1: George straight is that when he hit the fifty number 1289 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: ones in a row. Have you ever hond with Chesney? Yeah? 1290 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: I have. He's aid you ever hung with Chesney? No, 1291 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: that's one guy I don't know anything about. You would 1292 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: like hanging out with him because he's a dude. He's 1293 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: a dude. We were, That's like one guy. I want 1294 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: to get the note. He's really bad. He's the dude 1295 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: that well once there are no microphones and again, I 1296 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of treasure my time away from the microphone. So 1297 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna share anything that we would stay here 1298 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: but there are no walls. He's just like yeah, because 1299 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: he just says what you think your dude friends would stay. 1300 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: But I like hanging out Kenny a little bit. We've 1301 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: done some West Coast stuff together. And you know, if 1302 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: you're either waiting around or on a plane together, or 1303 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: you actually get good human time where you're forced to 1304 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: be together. Um, yeah, I like Kenny's I like him. Uh. 1305 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift Paisley, Now that's all this Paisley Taylor stuff 1306 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 1: with pre me. Yeah, when did you get when you 1307 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: signed a deal two thousand eight or nine, so that's 1308 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 1: around the Chesney Taylor. Taylor won it twice man, and 1309 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: she was young and one it. Yeah, that was she 1310 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: was different in the world, in the country. Of course 1311 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: he is still now Dixie Chicks or look, we get 1312 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the whole list up, ye, but yeah, I think at 1313 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 1: the end is it's it's kind of under there's no 1314 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 1: tag you can put on what winds entertain of the year, 1315 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: and every year when they announced the nominate some people 1316 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: left out. Yeah, every every category. Man. I caught a 1317 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: lot of heat from I don't know if it's heat publicity, 1318 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was whenever vlogged my reaction to 1319 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: small Town Boy not getting a nominated it that's the 1320 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: first time that I had seen I told just before this, 1321 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: first time I've seen you be human publicly or you 1322 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: showed like real emotions because you were disappointed. Yeah, man, 1323 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: but there's you know what I realized. I still get 1324 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: asked about that and interviews, and I realized from from 1325 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: that moment um and even very quickly I accepted it 1326 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: because I think of this song by my friend and 1327 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 1: that song by my friend that didn't get nominated either, 1328 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: You're like, well, it happens every year in every category. 1329 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: That's what it is. The beauty of that clip. And 1330 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: I still remember it too. First of all, that's how 1331 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 1: successful that clip was, good or bad. If you've got 1332 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: any pushback, that means there was a lot of push forward. Um, 1333 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: and you showed something thing that was so human and 1334 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: relatable that people still remember it. I remember it. You 1335 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: know clips I watch today? God du it. Just that's 1336 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: all I do is watch clips. Um. I thought it 1337 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: was fantastic. And as long as you're not in trouble, 1338 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: if people are noticing you, you win. That's it. You win. Um, Mike, 1339 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: we we've been a for hour. Huh, look at us. 1340 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: You've done an hour our interview before I'm gonna of course, 1341 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: I can man, I'm long winded. I can go. I 1342 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: can go forever. That's an hour. That was quick. You 1343 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: do you got a cycloud huh? Your sonic guy? Well, 1344 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: I would like I pretend that I do. I just 1345 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: heard it. I just heard a dairy queen ad this morning. 1346 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 1: I was stretching and I love Reese's peanut butter blizzards 1347 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: and blasts, and they've got multiple flavors of Reese. So 1348 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna be my next swan dive into the dark 1349 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: side of desserts? Are you deprivation like with food to 1350 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: stay in shape? Uh? And I've just gotten better at 1351 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: I think I realized I feel better and I'm a 1352 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: better person when I eat healthy. Yeah me too, Um 1353 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I can, I can. I'm going to hypernation mode pretty 1354 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: quick if you junk. Yeah, I mean too. And I 1355 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: love it for a second or now you've got to 1356 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: be on every day. I don't have to be on it. 1357 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: I just fit my clothes doing because this last year 1358 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of television last year and a half, 1359 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know if I don't put my clothes 1360 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: really that quick. Give me three bad meals, I feel 1361 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 1: like my gut what's good? When I fo help is. 1362 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: One of my best friends in Nashville is same deal. 1363 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: He's really watching what he eats and stuff. And when 1364 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: you have friends that and I guess, in a roundabout way, 1365 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: keep you in check because he'll pump me on my 1366 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: body fat percentage and stuff. And we're always trying to 1367 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: out do each other. It's like, man, you when you 1368 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: when you're held accountable with friends, it's like You're very 1369 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: much a product of your environment at all times, without 1370 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: a doubt. Man, you realize the decision people around you. 1371 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 1: You make better to realized that. Man. The past few years, UM, 1372 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 1: it's become very important to me of watching who I 1373 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: hang out with. And it's not even like there's bad people. 1374 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: It's just people that have similar interests of you know, 1375 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: long term term health and wealth and that kind of stuff. 1376 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: My show, my radio show. None of them have ever 1377 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: done radio. And I didn't go out and set out 1378 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: to make the best radio show. I set out to 1379 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: make a show with people that would make me the 1380 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: best at what I guess around myself with positive attitudes. 1381 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 1: For the most part, everybody's human, positive attitudes, great work ethic, 1382 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: and people that helped me get to a better spot. 1383 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: Not the best radio people. We even criticized harshly for 1384 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: not being a very good radio show. But by the way, 1385 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: don't trip on our nineteen A c M or c 1386 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: M A S or like it. But it's the same thing, 1387 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: like as all the all the everybody hates that's what 1388 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: you want me. You're resonating. But you know, like Amy, 1389 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 1: it was selling granted, and I was like, hey, come 1390 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 1: in and but yeah, you surround yourself with great people, 1391 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 1: you get better out of yourself. At least I found that, 1392 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: even like my management team, I've put wonderful people around me. 1393 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: And I yeah, well look, look I'm happy for you. Man, 1394 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: I like you, but I'm not even gonna you go. 1395 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: We're in They're like, what's up with your girlfriend? Is 1396 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: that the number one thing? Now? Yeah? The question I 1397 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: even got this morning was hey, when did you start dating? 1398 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I don't know how to answer that. 1399 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the official like, man, at this age 1400 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: of life, you don't you don't go, oh my goodness, 1401 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: do you want to be with my girlfriend? All right, June? 1402 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: The second you know, it's like, there's not that, man, 1403 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of happened naturally and organically, and 1404 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,479 Speaker 1: that's good. Has she been on your Instagram? I haven't 1405 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: seen her? Yeah, and I watch your stuff. She came up, 1406 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 1: she's been what she came to the cmas and they 1407 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: see him? Oh she did, so it's out there. Yeah 1408 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: who she is? Yeah? Oh yeah, I guess pictures I 1409 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 1: would assume. So see I'm I'm I'm I'm so insulated 1410 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: with let me my fan pages. I don't know. You 1411 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: don't I don't like google myself. What's her name? Look 1412 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 1: at it? Can you tell me? Or do you don't 1413 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 1: want to say? I'd rather I'd rather not say. You 1414 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: know what I say, here's what hal is. I've learned, 1415 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: like whatever. But if she's out there, you're just typing in. 1416 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I won't even say type on my Instagram say no, 1417 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying she gets. She gets like the bad 1418 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: end of the sticky troll man and call her terrible names. 1419 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,959 Speaker 1: And that's why. Let me tell you one great story. 1420 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 1: Let what if I hit it? It's like follow back? Yeah, 1421 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: not bad, my friend. I didn't know that. I didn't 1422 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 1: know that, so I guess I'm missing out because I 1423 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 1: didn't know that was her. I know you had a girlfriend. 1424 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So she's single. I'm like, hey, 1425 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: be a twist, right, I'm dating someone's wife. You gotta 1426 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: be careful because people will jump on and be mean. Yeah. 1427 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: I noticed that inadvertently her sister posted something and my 1428 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: fannin Counts caught it and it was like man, and 1429 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: then you wonder, like, who are these people that I 1430 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 1: think are running my fan pages? No, it's like, well, 1431 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: they love you so much. If they can't have you, 1432 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: no one will. Yeah. Man, I've noticed that. I was. 1433 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 1: I went out with this girl. I'll end on this 1434 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: selfish story. I was on a flight and this flight attendant. 1435 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 1: I had my glasses on it. I can't see it's 1436 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 1: not my glasses. And I'm like, I think she's super cute, 1437 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and I think she's like flirting with me, which it 1438 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: usually doesn't go together. How far away she on this plane? Uh? 1439 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: Like three or four rows up. I was flying back 1440 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: and forth to Idol, and so they put me a 1441 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: first class. I'm up in the front of the plane 1442 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: and she's working first class, so so not that far 1443 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,440 Speaker 1: and and and I can't and I don't have courage 1444 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: to just go out and be like, hey, what's I mean. 1445 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on an airplane. How do you hit on 1446 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: a girl on an airplane? Here's I want to I 1447 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: want to say this. How do you hit on a girl? Period? 1448 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: No idea? Right? No, I don't on Instagram. I I'm 1449 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: good with right here. Yep. I've never had practice. I've 1450 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 1: been stuck on stage my whole life. I've been stuck 1451 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: on nothing exactly. It's in my bedroom alone looking at 1452 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: hercle going so I'm like hey, um, and then the 1453 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: old guy next to me a first class elbows meet 1454 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 1: and goes, hey, man, I think she's flirting with you. 1455 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, cool, you're not. I'm not 1456 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 1: only want to think of this. So she gets on 1457 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: the thing and she does this thing where she sticks 1458 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 1: her two fingers, puts in her eyes and then does 1459 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: it to my eyes and back to her eyes like 1460 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you kind of thing. And so wait 1461 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 1: before she gets on the microphone. Before she gets on 1462 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: the microphone, and then she gets on the mind goes, hey, 1463 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: tell us how we're doing. They do the shill where 1464 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: they're like, tell us how we're doing, and she goes, 1465 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: you can get online and submit your survey at Delta 1466 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: dot com and she goes or and she looked at me. 1467 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,560 Speaker 1: Sure she can write it on a napkin. And I'm like, 1468 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: am I in a movie? And it's like she was 1469 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 1: she even talking to me? Because it never happened to 1470 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 1: me on my love It never is this happening in 1471 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: my life. That's exactly what you and I need, though, yeah, 1472 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm still not even sure. And so I go, okay, 1473 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: and they have these napkins and I write my name 1474 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, Bobby, and I don't know prof 1475 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: a phone number because she's take a picture of it 1476 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: and put my phone number up on Instagram. I don't 1477 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: want that, so I write Bobby and then I put 1478 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 1: my Instagram name and I'm like, hey, send me a message, 1479 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: and I hand it to her. So safe, right, And 1480 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: I tell the story on the morning show Awake. I'm 1481 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: been doing the Shore from California and I'm like, hey, 1482 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,640 Speaker 1: this happened to me. This girl. I think she was 1483 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 1: flirting with me and the day and and she hadn't 1484 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: reached out anything. And then she was like, you're an idiot. 1485 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: She was like the no, she wasn't flirting with Nobody 1486 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: flirts with you. The show isn't letting me have it. 1487 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: So our listeners track her down. They find what they find. 1488 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, they knew what flight I was on. 1489 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: They knew it was Delta. They go to the Facebook page. 1490 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,879 Speaker 1: They track her down and they and no, I shouldn't 1491 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: say my listeners, A few of them, of the ones 1492 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 1: that shouldn't have been they were, they were wrong. And 1493 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,759 Speaker 1: they track her down and they go to her Instagram 1494 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: and left the messages, and that's so she hits me 1495 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: up and it's like, hey, what's whoa, whoa, what's happening here? 1496 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,679 Speaker 1: I know? I know, so I don't lie to anything anymore. 1497 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: So that's what broke the eyes of and I had 1498 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 1: always been like I've been open and I still and 1499 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: that there was no like no, we went out a 1500 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 1: couple of times. I played the operating to stand up. 1501 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,759 Speaker 1: She came out and and it was she lives in Utah. 1502 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I gotta be careful because 1503 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 1: she had nothing to do with anything except me. She 1504 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:57,839 Speaker 1: was she was feeling the pain from my idiot actions. 1505 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 1: And I wasn't even anything good or bad. I was 1506 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 1: just telling my story. Worry right, yeah, And so I 1507 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 1: can only imagine like when that's why it's tough. Man. 1508 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: It's like I feel bad. Half of me feels bad, 1509 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: like you're not claiming claiming her and blot and then 1510 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 1: you go, man, it's not worth it. It's not good. 1511 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah man, we're good protecting her, yeah, golden in real life, 1512 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 1: But does she want to be out there with you? No? 1513 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: I know, I don't. I don't think. So there's never 1514 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: been even even like girls in the past i've you know, 1515 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 1: hung out with I could I could see that was 1516 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: that was a bit of the case. But this is 1517 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: it's a it's cool not having to worry about that. 1518 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't think. Man, it's like it's like the first person. 1519 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I've had to work or even worry 1520 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: about anything. You know. Does she live here? No, that's 1521 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: good and bad. I guess it could be both. It's tough. Yeah, 1522 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's great to miss somebody, man, you know, 1523 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 1: or have somebody listen. I don't know either way. There 1524 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: was one one story. I feel like I talked about 1525 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,600 Speaker 1: these stories forever. There's one girl in town and she 1526 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,679 Speaker 1: had a boyfriend. I kind of I didn't she didn't 1527 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: even know I was flirting with her, right, but I 1528 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 1: was that She put post something on it's a story 1529 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 1: sup posted like her music, and I hit I was like, hey, 1530 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 1: I love that band too, because I did flirting with her. 1531 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 1: And she goes, hey, I'll send you their record. It's 1532 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 1: not out yet, you know a link to it. So 1533 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: she texted me and I was like, dang. And I 1534 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 1: looked at the last text side center and I said, oh, man, haven't. 1535 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: We haven't texted since the last time I tried to 1536 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 1: flirt with you. She goes, that was flirting and then 1537 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: she and then she got a boyfriend I after that, 1538 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, we broke up and I 1539 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: was like, oh cool, Well, um, I'll ask you out sometimes, 1540 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna right now, but I ask you out. Well. Then, 1541 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: what I hear from somebody that I know is like, hey, 1542 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: this certain girl was in the bathroom. She come to 1543 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 1: me and said that you were hitting on her. And 1544 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't what I want I supposed 1545 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 1: to do. It's tough. Nalls to Nashville. I've that's why 1546 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: you're not da anybody Nahville. Like we've we've we've We've 1547 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,759 Speaker 1: said it all. I stay, I stay reclus to Nashville. 1548 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 1: We've said it all. I'm good to see my friend. 1549 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. So here is hey, Mike, pull me a 1550 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 1: little bit of Dustin's song right now because that's the 1551 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: riding roads and down. You know people, you're gonna hear 1552 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: this for years, but right now this is single. This 1553 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 1: is you like this one? Huh yeah? I like this one. 1554 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: This is inspired by on Instagram story. Yeah, who picked 1555 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,799 Speaker 1: this one? Uh to be a single? Yeah, I did. Okay, 1556 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: there we have it yea, and the labels on board 1557 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 1: with it, alright, riding road. Check it out stream it downloaded. 1558 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: Dustin Lynch and your Instagram name is that Dustin Lynch, right, 1559 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Dustin Lynch music. Somebody, the real Dustint Lynch is taken 1560 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: by somebody because I can't get Bobby Bones. Yeah. Yeah, 1561 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: we had to do Dustin Lisch music, which is cool. 1562 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Trying to buy it though, Yeah, it's some guy. Um, 1563 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I think he's a painter or something. I try. I 1564 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 1: looked him, I tried about my my dudes, like he 1565 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: just didn't even use his account and he still wouldn't sell. 1566 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't think this guy does either. Yeah, all right, 1567 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 1: thank you very much, thank you. Good to see my 1568 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: friend will Ston next time here on the show.