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Speaker 1: I listen to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rob and Karen. Hey, welcome to another episode of The

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Speaker 1: Black Guy to His podcast, your hosts Rod and and

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Speaker 1: we're live on what appears to be a Monday if

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Speaker 1: you still believe in calendars and things like that. And

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Speaker 1: we lying with a very special guest on this Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's our girl, Reagan Gomez. You may know her from

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Speaker 1: all of her various roles on TV. She stays she

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Speaker 1: keep a job, whether it's Queen Sugar, you know, voice

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Speaker 1: and characters on The Cleveland Show, Universe, Stephen Universe, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's our podcast, Reagan Nomics, you know, it's our girl.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, Reagan? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm dead? How y'all doing? Thank you for having me again?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we love you over here. So we're just

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Speaker 1: glad the Rona got everyone in the house. Unfortunately but

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Speaker 1: fortunate we are able to like reach out and get

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Speaker 1: people on a little bit more often. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you're always a person that were like, oh man, she's

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Speaker 1: so busy, but you know, I'm glad you can make time.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, thank you for having me. Y'all know, I

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Speaker 4: fucks with y'all so heavy.

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Speaker 2: I'll listen to.

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Speaker 3: Y'all all during the week. My children know your voices. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm always happy to come back on the show.

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Speaker 1: We're happy to have you here. How has things been

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Speaker 1: in Corona? I feel like, you know, it's like how

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Speaker 1: like the California area is like it's like blowing up,

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Speaker 1: which is weird because you know, it's one of the

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Speaker 1: few places that got like a governor who seemed to

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Speaker 1: be like proactive, and people still was like, I'm not listening,

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Speaker 1: so like, how's everything going over there for you?

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Speaker 3: It's very strange and it's very bizarre. Mind you.

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Speaker 4: I'm downstairs, so my kids are upstairs and my husband's

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Speaker 4: getting ready for work.

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Speaker 3: So if you hear people walking around, that's just that's

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Speaker 3: what it is.

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Speaker 4: Is we're all home at the same time all day.

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Speaker 3: And it's weird.

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Speaker 4: Because my oldest she plays club soccer, and they started

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Speaker 4: practice again maybe two weeks ago, but like they had

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Speaker 4: all these rules and the kids are outside, but they

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Speaker 4: just had to shut sports practice down again even if

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Speaker 4: you are abiding by the rules or whatever. And my

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Speaker 4: you know, school for us starts the first week of August,

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Speaker 4: the first.

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Speaker 3: Full week of August.

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Speaker 4: So school is literally like what four weeks away or

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Speaker 4: three weeks away, and the whole country is like in

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Speaker 4: the same place, Like what the fuck are we going

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Speaker 4: to do with school? So they sent us a survey,

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Speaker 4: and I have it. We're in a pretty good We're

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Speaker 4: actually in a really good school district. We loved up

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Speaker 4: moving here. We had no idea, but they gave us

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Speaker 4: three options. And the options are for school, you can

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Speaker 4: do I think half days AM PM, and then they'll

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Speaker 4: alternate the kids, so no kids would be there all

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Speaker 3: Then they gave us two full days of school.

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Speaker 4: And the other three, however math works three days will

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Speaker 4: I think they should offer up all three of those

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Speaker 4: alternatives for parents, because no.

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Speaker 3: One thing will work for one family.

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Speaker 4: And I ask my oldest she wants to go in AMPM,

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Speaker 4: so she wants to do PM, and that'll only be

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Speaker 4: like a three or four day school week. Anyway, there's

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Speaker 4: no going back to five days a week. Drop your

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Speaker 3: There's none of that. So that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we have a governor who kind of

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Speaker 4: who knows what he's doing and has been smart about this.

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Speaker 4: But even California we're struggling, strugging. Everybody is struggling to

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Speaker 4: figure it out. But there's there's a sense of calming

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's how that's how we're doing over here.

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Speaker 6: And I was just reaching on TV like uh he

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Speaker 7: It was like, oh, we going back to number one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what they're going to do.

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Speaker 4: I really do not, And I ain't stressing about it either,

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Speaker 4: Y'all supposed to have all of this together, Like nobody

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Speaker 4: knew the pandemic was coming, but now moving forward, you

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Speaker 1: Place you have to, and they had plenty of time too.

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Speaker 1: It's like they it's like no one had the scenario

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Speaker 1: now we've gotten to this point where the numbers haven't

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Speaker 1: gone down, and you just want to open up because

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Speaker 2: That's not a good reason, right.

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Speaker 6: When me tell you why people thought that, I'm sorry, baby.

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Speaker 6: People thought that because we normally have somebody competent in

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Speaker 6: I don't even care. If it would have been a

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Speaker 7: They'd have been like, shut shit down.

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Speaker 6: The numbers would like like their plan would have made

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Speaker 7: But when you have somebody that the whole thing is chaos,

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Speaker 6: And I kind of feel bad for them because you

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Speaker 7: There's no structures.

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Speaker 6: There's no guidelines, there's no this is what we want

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Speaker 6: everybody to follow. It's like each district of each school

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Speaker 6: And that's why you got all this we're gonna do,

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Speaker 6: We're gonna rotate, we're gonna.

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Speaker 7: Do online school only.

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Speaker 6: Like that's why you have all this because there's no structure.

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Speaker 4: And also like people kind of consider California to be

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Speaker 3: To vote on it, and y'alla gotta y'all, so we

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Speaker 4: But at least they're trying to be in contact with parents, like,

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Speaker 4: let's try to figure something out together. A lot of

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Speaker 3: They yes, they're not even giving them options.

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Speaker 4: But it's like even with this camp, like the summer

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Speaker 4: And I even asked that, you know, on Twitter. But

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Speaker 4: then it's like, Okay, you figure if your state said

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Speaker 4: You know, we remember our summertimes finally or whatever. So

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Speaker 4: And it's like the same with schools, like what if

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Speaker 4: you're a parent who works, what are you supposed to do? Right,

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Speaker 4: a parent who cannot work at home and you what

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Speaker 3: Kids to school?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at the environment that has been

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Speaker 1: created over the last decades of just there's two Americas.

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Speaker 1: it's so weird to see this trickle into that and

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Speaker 2: It's not about just cleaning.

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Speaker 1: And wearing gloves. You need a mask, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: I still believe I should send my children off because governor,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever says it's okay, and President so and

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Speaker 1: so says it's okay. Like that tells you so much

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Speaker 1: It's just that they're so used to like that person

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Speaker 1: and so they just kind of do what everyone else

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Speaker 1: should be open, they wouldn't let us die.

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Speaker 2: They would let you die.

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Speaker 7: Yet now nowadays they will let you die.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's something that for some people they

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Speaker 6: go back to normalcy so bad.

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Speaker 7: That's the thing. We're never going to be normal again.

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Speaker 6: I've since this all started in my mind, I said, Oh,

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Speaker 6: it's going to be a pre Rona and post Rona.

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Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, also, it's going to be

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Speaker 6: almost like a new like we're getting ready to have

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Speaker 6: crush people wishes and dreams and hopes. But going back

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Speaker 2: A lot of it is privileged.

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Speaker 6: I don't think a lot of people realize there's a

443
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Speaker 6: whole generation of children right now that are going to

444
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 6: be lost in the school systems because once the school

445
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 6: system shut down, even here in mercer Birk County, they

446
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 6: have a percentage of kids that was like, we don't

447
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 6: know what happened to them.

448
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 7: They could have moved.

449
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 6: They were already in shelters and homes and things like that,

450
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 6: like we might never find these kids going to school

451
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 6: to eat, correct, Like, is this shit is real?

452
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Speaker 2: Man, It's not just a matter, you know.

453
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Speaker 1: That's one of the That's another one of the problems

454
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Speaker 1: with having the administration we have is that they don't

455
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Speaker 1: see people who are not rich white people. They in

456
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Speaker 1: their mind, those people don't exist and there and anything

457
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 1: bad that happens to them they deserve, So they don't

458
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Speaker 1: Even when they come up with these plans, people always

459
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Speaker 1: go like, but what about And I'm like, yes, what

460
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 1: about They don't care about what about They don't care

461
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Speaker 1: about what about the kids who need to eat they

462
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Speaker 1: go to school? What about the people who you know,

463
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: like they can't just have their kids stay at home

464
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: and be on the internet, so they have to send

465
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Speaker 1: their kid in physically, which means they have to get

466
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Speaker 1: on a bus, which means they can't socially distanced, which

467
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: means they're gonna you know, they don't. I don't care

468
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: about any of this shit. So, you know, I think

469
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Speaker 1: a large part of this is who's in charge. Because

470
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Speaker 1: you could hate Obama, but Obama gave a fuck, you

471
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's just like I mean, technically,

472
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Speaker 1: what's the other nigga? He George W. Bush gave a

473
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Speaker 1: fuck like he was terrible, but he but he was like,

474
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Speaker 1: we can't just do this to the babies like this

475
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Speaker 1: nigga has no line.

476
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Speaker 2: And so this is where we're at right now.

477
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Speaker 4: Look, and it's like so even with you know, we

478
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Speaker 4: did distance learning with my kids. I was their their teacher,

479
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Speaker 4: especially my little one. My little one just turned nine,

480
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: but he is on the spectrum. So like when I

481
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Speaker 4: think about first of all, like you said, it was

482
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Speaker 4: absolutely privileged because we have more than one computer in

483
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Speaker 4: the house. Already, we have more than one computer. So

484
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 4: my eighth grade, my seventh grader could go up and

485
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Speaker 4: do what she needed to do, and I could take

486
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Speaker 4: the time with my little one and with him.

487
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Speaker 3: He had both of them.

488
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Speaker 4: Actually they had scheduled classes every day, so they had

489
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Speaker 4: zoom classes every day at ten, my little one had

490
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Speaker 4: two or three.

491
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Speaker 3: So we had some kind of system. It was not perfect,

492
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Speaker 3: but we have some kind of system.

493
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Speaker 4: But if you don't have internet access in your home, right,

494
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 4: and this is coming from a governor who knows what.

495
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Speaker 3: He's doing who we would assume cares about the people.

496
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: But even like when we look at La County, so

497
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 4: many black and brown kids just the end of their

498
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 4: year was shot. The end of their year was shot.

499
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: How are they gonna do when the school system opens up?

500
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Speaker 4: And if we're talking about this going all the way

501
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Speaker 4: until next year, that's a whole year of kids who

502
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: are already, like right barely trying to hang on, Not

503
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: to mention what's going on at home, with parents losing jobs,

504
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 4: people starting to get kicked out of their apartments, and

505
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: shit right now, yes, outside of school, outside of work,

506
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 4: people are struggling. And with my nine year olds, he's

507
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Speaker 4: in jen ed, but there are a lot of kids

508
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Speaker 4: who are. He's high functioning, but like I think of

509
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: like other kids in his class who need that stability. Right,

510
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Speaker 4: How how do you as a parent if you're not

511
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Speaker 4: used to teaching your child who's on the spectrum, who

512
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: was used to being with teachers who were gone to

513
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: school for this specializing disabled children, How as a parent

514
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: are you supposed to they give you what two to

515
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 4: three months notice that day, guess what the whole school

516
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: year is gonna be on you to teach your kids

517
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Speaker 4: and also you gotta pay the rent and the morgane

518
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Speaker 4: and every it's just so fucked.

519
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Speaker 1: Up and like what is and like what about all

520
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Speaker 1: the black parents. They didn't get to show out at graduation,

521
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Speaker 1: you know, because we look forward to that.

522
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Speaker 3: Okay, was hot.

523
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Speaker 7: My niece was a senior.

524
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Speaker 4: Twenty was her senior year. They had a drive by graduation,

525
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Speaker 4: which was nice.

526
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Speaker 3: They did something, but they just to be loud.

527
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Speaker 7: We get to ignore the comments of wait til the

528
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Speaker 7: to the to the everybody walk.

529
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Speaker 5: You know, we didn't.

530
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Speaker 7: We didn't get to come out with like the tambourines

531
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Speaker 7: and all the sign It ain't the.

532
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Speaker 1: Same if you're gonna risk getting kicked out, man, like

533
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't kick me off the zoom graduation

534
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Speaker 1: like I want to get I want somebody be like,

535
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: oh that uncle right there, you know he could he

536
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: couldn't help itself, you know. And there's always that one

537
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: kid that we was like, we wasn't sure you was

538
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: even gonna make it.

539
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 7: We didn't know.

540
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Speaker 1: We extra for you, and just like you know, they

541
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Speaker 1: we get kicked out like that.

542
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Speaker 2: That tradition.

543
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Speaker 1: How we not gonna pass on that tradition for twenty

544
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Speaker 1: twenty I feel bad. I hope they get to graduate

545
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Speaker 1: next year, like we do two graduations or something.

546
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but so many families messed out.

547
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Speaker 4: But you know what, I've seen families who are like,

548
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: you know what, we're gonna make it, do what it do,

549
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna have something at the house, and people drive.

550
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: People are doing the best they can.

551
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's I don't know how you're supposed

552
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 4: to feel with an administration that literally sets.

553
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Speaker 3: The tone right, and the tone is we don't give.

554
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Speaker 1: Up fun right, and the drop our graduation could work,

555
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Speaker 1: But I would also need a drive by white people

556
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: to be annoyed at us being happy.

557
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 7: Like that's the ballengeving by frowning.

558
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need the balance of like white people being like,

559
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: why can't they just be quiet? And us being like,

560
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: you know, it's make it better. What about like the

561
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: like auditioning table reads all that stuff, because you can

562
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: still kind of do that virtually, Like does that stuff

563
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: still going? Are people still like casting and pitching projects

564
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: waiting for like you know, to start the starting block

565
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: for someone to just shoot the pistol and run off

566
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: for what?

567
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 3: Oh?

568
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 5: Sure? Oh sure?

569
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 4: Projects are still being bought people are still spending money.

570
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: People still studios still have money to spend.

571
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: All of that stuff is never gonna stop because again,

572
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: they know that eventually we are gonna have to get back.

573
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: Whether it's you know, I heard Tyler Perry is making

574
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: the cast of his show come stay at the ranch.

575
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: Y'all just gotta say here and live here and we'll

576
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: have our own doctors. And I don't know how that works,

577
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: but I mean that's an option that he's doing.

578
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 7: So people are gonna get tested, but you got to

579
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 7: stay here now, your family and friends.

580
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: Thing is, if anyone could do it, is probably gonna

581
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: be tolerant. If anyone could do it, because he like

582
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: he is, he could like that ship down here on

583
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: all that shit.

584
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: He like, listen, we're filming Black Panther. Hell no, white's allowed.

585
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: Let's go, and you know you're gonna be taking care

586
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: of that guy there. You're gonna have nice digs.

587
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: You know.

588
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: All of that is just whether people are willing to go.

589
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: But the money has not stopped, and people are ready now.

590
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: For me, I've kind of been on in a transition

591
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 4: in my career and that I'm I'm actively trying to

592
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: do less on camera work so I can do more

593
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: behind the scenes camera work. So even before this happened,

594
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: I was already like I ain't I ain't auditioning. I'm

595
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 4: you know, I know I've already had that in my mind,

596
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 4: Like I you know, now, if it's like a Ryan

597
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: Coogler called me, like Reagan gum As, we have this

598
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 4: script for you and you would be the star, then

599
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 4: I would reconsider some things. But you know, I've already

600
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: kind of been transitioning out of being an actress and

601
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: more toward being a director producer anyway. But people still look,

602
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: people do home auditions all the time. That's what actress

603
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: have to do who don't live in Los Angeles. They

604
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: do home auditions and you know, zoom auditions and all

605
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff.

606
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: So that stuff is it's still happening.

607
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll see you boss over there, Like, let me

608
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: get let me get on the other side of this camera.

609
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Tell y'all what you do for a change.

610
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 6: Right, because that's that's where the money is, because it's

611
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 6: money on both sides. But you know, when your name

612
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 6: flash up there is one of the first few names

613
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: that make a big difference.

614
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: Also, like that's a that's a thing you can't age

615
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: out of, and stuff like Hollywood is super weird, especially

616
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: with women, where it's like you reached to like that

617
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: Amy Amy Schumer had that sketch The Last Fuckable Day

618
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: for the Actress where it's like we decided from this

619
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: point on you playing moms, It's like, what the fuck?

620
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Like people have sex after thirty, It's like, no, not

621
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, they don't, So I could, you know, I

622
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: can kind of see like the idea of transitioning out

623
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: just for one to change that paradigm, right, because only

624
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: when you on the other side can you be the person.

625
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: It's like, I want to change the way y'all look

626
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: at certain people and all that stuff. But then the

627
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: other part is, like you said, the money is there,

628
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: the decision making is there, the power is there, as

629
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: well as a lot of the creativity because when you're

630
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: on when you're on the other side of the camera

631
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: as an actress, you know, it's still you portraying the

632
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: vision of someone else. So you know, I was watching

633
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: Netflix has a documentary called Disclosure, and it's about like

634
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: trains people and the journey through like media representation from

635
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: from from all the way back in like the nineteen

636
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: hundred is the early start of cinema and plays and

637
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: stuff to now, right, and so much of it, of

638
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: the change that has to happened, has to be because

639
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: someone got the power to be on the other side, right,

640
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, because as long as youre on that one side,

641
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: you're always gonna be stuck.

642
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I definitely respect that, and also like I.

643
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: Want to be you know, I was telling my husband, like,

644
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: I turned forty this year.

645
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: The very first time I had something that I wrote

646
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: produce was when I was maybe thirty thirty one.

647
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: So all of my thirties has been our podcast. It

648
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: has been me.

649
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: Writing and directing two seasons of a show that I wrote,

650
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: and then another season of a show that I wrote

651
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 4: that was nominated for a gospel So all of my

652
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: thirties has set the tone. So at forty, no, I'm

653
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 4: not fucking auditioning for your the Sassy girlfriend or whatever

654
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: the fuck that I played already when I was twenty

655
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: five and twenty six and twenty seven. I mean it's

656
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: it's I can say, it's twenty six years in this game, right,

657
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: I've seen what you can do with black actresses. Now

658
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: I want to be a part of shaping the next

659
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty however, many years for other black actresses

660
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: who are coming so they can play interesting parts and

661
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Speaker 4: be interesting characters and be a part of these amazing stories.

662
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: Like there's a film that I am gonna get done,

663
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: but it is basically a film about black and brown

664
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: girls in la on bikes.

665
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: Saving the world, and they have hours. I grew up

666
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: on the Goonies.

667
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: I grew up on so many movies, even like a

668
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: movie like The Wood or Boys in the Hood at

669
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: the beginning, like with kids out getting in the mischief

670
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: and figuring out what the fuck is going on. I

671
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: have never ever seen a movie or show with girls

672
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: on bikes, and I knows a girl on a bike

673
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: with my homegirls exploring back when we used to be

674
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: able to play outside and exploring city or whatever.

675
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: Where are those films? They're not there, So I'm there,

676
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: and they're gonna happen.

677
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it's only gonna happen if you do what.

678
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: I remember a long time ago, we first had you

679
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: on the show you were doing Surviving and it was

680
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: like a web series at the time, and you were like, you.

681
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: Know, promoting and pitching it and being like boom, I'm

682
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: moving into this.

683
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: So it's dope to see you like progress along that

684
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: path and to continue down that.

685
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: So that's dope.

686
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

687
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: It's hard, it's hard as shit, but god damn it,

688
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 4: I'm still alive, and you know.

689
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: It's definitely difficult.

690
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 4: But you know, you hope that what's happening right now

691
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: that a lot of these studios mean what they say.

692
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

693
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: Like that some of these changes you got like voice

694
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: actors that were voicing like black characters that are now

695
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: like I'm stepping down. Let's get someone black to do this.

696
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: You know, like what do you think about those changes?

697
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: I've seen people that are like this ain't nothing. We

698
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: won't you know, as killers brought the justice or whatever.

699
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: But I'm also like I'll take this too, like can

700
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: we get both it all?

701
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: But it all matters. And I was on Twitter earlier

702
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: today talking about this.

703
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: It's like when black Americans, when Black Americans, when we

704
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: want some shit done, when we create these movements, it

705
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: helps everybody.

706
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: Else, Yes, even people who are against what we're doing.

707
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Right.

708
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: It is always been like that. So you know when

709
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: I look at like even so like.

710
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: Animation, Like there is this thing going around on Twitter,

711
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: because you know that's where I be. I be on Twitter, like,

712
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: you know, this is my picture of me in real life,

713
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: and this is like my animated picture. And it was

714
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: just people picking animated characters who look like them.

715
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: So I posted one and I was like, well shit,

716
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean I really, you know, I really have these characters.

717
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: And I posted, you know, me with Roberta and Kicky

718
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: and Jenny from Steven Universe, and then I quote tweeted

719
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: it and I was like, you know what, this is

720
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: getting a lot of love, but it's just been out

721
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: of out of fucking work for a long time, so

722
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: you know, I would like a new job. And then

723
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: this was happening simultaneously as people were leaving Big Mouth

724
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 4: and a bunch of the other shows, and what's so crazy.

725
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: I did not even think about Mike Henry, who plays

726
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: Cleveland Brown. So when he did that, I was like,

727
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: I didn't even I didn't even think about him. But

728
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: I let him know that I think it was the

729
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: good decision.

730
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 2: That you know, it's very dope.

731
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: He was.

732
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: He was one of the few people though that it

733
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: hurt a little bit because he does it so good.

734
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of like the Robert Downey Jr. Thing

735
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Where you like, yes, y'all right, black face is bad,

736
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: but like let's leave Tropic Thunder alone. Like I felt

737
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: a little bit.

738
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: Like that for the Cleveland Show.

739
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: But I still respect the sacrifice and stuff because I

740
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: feel like in order to change to happen, especially in Hollywood,

741
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: someone has to be willing to get off the podium

742
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter all the lips, yeah, all the speeches.

743
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: You know.

744
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: I still remember when Jeffrey Tambore won for Transparent and

745
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: he got his like beautiful speech which is like trans

746
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: and it's like, yes, but here's the speech that it's

747
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: still you kind of saying shame on y'all.

748
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 2: For giving me this award, which is, you know, don't

749
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 2: take the award.

750
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Mackilmore when he got the award for UH for his

751
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: album and he's like the elephant in the room is

752
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't make the definitive album for this year.

753
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Everyone knows it's the Pepper Butterfly. No one's gonna remember

754
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: this album in ten years, and so he has to

755
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: get up there and be like this is fucked up.

756
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: But the only way to make it happen is for

757
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: somebody to be like, I'm not even getting up here.

758
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: Is I don't deserve this?

759
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's the same thing Polo Adele what Adele

760
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 6: had to do with She went up there and she

761
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 6: had to be like, oh, so be having just let

762
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 6: you know right now, I actually bowed down.

763
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 7: Do you want me to give it to us?

764
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: She was like, I listened to Beyonce on the way here.

765
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know what these people thinking.

766
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous.

767
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 7: I'm shocked. I'm shocked at y'all.

768
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: But it's the only way, you know what I'm saying.

769
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: And it's so crazy because, like I think of somebody

770
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 4: like Mike who he's gonna be just fine. He's absolutely

771
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: gonna be just fine. He had twenty years doing his character.

772
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: He's still family guy. And you know, so when I

773
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: think about a lot of these people who are playing

774
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: these characters, was it was it Kristen Bell, wasn't she

775
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: one of these characters.

776
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: Was on either Big Mouth or The Central Park One.

777
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 4: Okay, right, so this is and there's no shade to

778
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: Kristen Bell at all, but this is a woman who

779
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: has frozen money. Was in one of the biggest you know,

780
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: cartoons in the world is already an established actress. Do

781
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: you really need this part on a Netflix animated show,

782
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 4: Like when you look at the people and this is

783
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 4: not everybody you know, but do you need these parts?

784
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 3: Because there are black voice actors who.

785
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 4: Are like, I need that part to pay my fucking

786
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: rent right now, and you don't even get the option

787
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: to audition. And I wanted to put you know, I

788
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: wanted to say that about myself as somebody who's like

789
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 4: on you know, cartoons that people consider to be successful,

790
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 4: like Cleave. The show was sy syndication. It's part of

791
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: the safe in the Firelan world and the same with

792
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: Steven Universe. But it is still fucking hard for me.

793
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: I'm not they're not calling, you know, banging my door

794
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 4: down or whatever. I'm not getting calls like that.

795
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 7: I mean, you're already kind of.

796
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: A somewhat known actress, and it's still fucking hard just.

797
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: For the fact that they haven't.

798
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: You know that that that that those are people out

799
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: there playing black characters that aren't black. Like it's telling

800
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: you right there that they're not. These jobs are not

801
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: readily available. And the thing, the trick that Hollywood has,

802
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: and I guess every industry uses this low scarcity thing

803
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of. But people, people, everyone, even as successful people,

804
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: feel like there's a finite time it's all gonna run out.

805
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: I have to do everything. I can't say no the shit.

806
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: And you know, I have a little bit of empathy

807
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: for him because I do understand. But the bigger for

808
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: the bigger picture, you have to get out the way,

809
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: like I know, you know, everyone is least fave now

810
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: because it's been a while. She said several problematic things.

811
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: But Scarlett Johansson when she first started taking these roles,

812
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I understand why she thinks she needs

813
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: to take.

814
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: The role because we're homegoing.

815
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 5: But you're on top.

816
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: Look at you. You're getting fucking Emmys or Grammys or

817
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck oscars, Like, look at you.

818
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: You are on top of the game. You ain't going nowhere.

819
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: You're a staple.

820
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: But she you don't feel like that inside because the

821
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: person making a decision on what scholet Jore Hanson can

822
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: play a role or not, it's probably some fucking dude

823
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: who's like, well, as soon as we get a hotter

824
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: version of her, she's the fuck out of here. We don't,

825
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want you to be black widow forever,

826
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: like what you put on ten pounds, We need to

827
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: start thinking about what we're gonna do about black widow.

828
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: So like there's all and it's some of it's external,

829
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, where like, yes, it's real,

830
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: there are people that are like judging you and pushing

831
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: people out all the time, and then a lot of

832
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: it's internal. It is so much of acting. Like I

833
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: watched this show Barry on HBO. It's a really good show.

834
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: It's like about an assassin who ends up trying to

835
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: become an actor. It's like a communist like a half hour.

836
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: It's really it's really well done.

837
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: But it used to used to come on after Watchmen and.

838
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: What what is the show about?

839
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Same here and a couple of people I trusted vouch

840
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: for it, and I was like, well, since I'm home

841
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: and it ain't shit else to do, so I binge

842
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: both seasons in like a day or two.

843
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: Like it's so good.

844
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: But at at some point you realize like these similarities

845
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: in the like acting game and the assassin game, and

846
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: you start seeing like you know, the like the stakes

847
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: are higher in the acting world in a way, and

848
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: like the jealousy and the envy and the all this

849
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: different stuff. But but the thing it made me think

850
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: about was how like even in so many professions, abuse

851
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: is kind of built in.

852
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, so even in like acting, there's.

853
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: A lot of like pushing product, like trying, and then a.

854
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: Lot of judging of like how tall are you?

855
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: How how how big are you?

856
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: How?

857
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: You know all this type of shit, and so you

858
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: make everyone inside start feeling like I.

859
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: Gotta get everything. I gotta get it all right now.

860
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: I can't I can't pass up anything. And then that's

861
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: what that's what it looks like.

862
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: It looks like a bunch of fucking friends and white

863
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: people that are friends of the white people just taking

864
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: all the ship, even the black shit, even the like

865
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: every part, I need every part. And that's and that's

866
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: why the ship looks bad. But I'm so glad right now.

867
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: People are like, you need to come off of that.

868
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: And white folks is listening, I hope.

869
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: So, because you know what a lot it's that, But

870
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: it is also uh we uh, white.

871
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: Liberal people are something else. They are the white progresses.

872
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: They're really something else. It's like they're not technically the

873
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: bad ones, but they are something else, and they you know,

874
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: it's very much a dude bro kind of culture. And

875
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: it's like you call who you know, you hire your friend,

876
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: you hire your whoever, You get your attorney from your

877
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: friend who has the same return.

878
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: It's very much like a dude bro culture.

879
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: But what do you do if you're not a dude bro?

880
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: What do you do if you don't even like fucking

881
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: hanging out with dude right? Well, then you're not in

882
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: so and they don't think about you. And these are

883
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: the good ones. They don't even think like you're even

884
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 4: when I think about the Cleveland show, the fact that

885
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: they had auditions, Okay, you can say what you want

886
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: about Cleveland, but the fact that the rest of the

887
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 4: cast is majority black, as far as like the main characters,

888
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: you don't even have that on these other shows like

889
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 4: Great Mouth and What Hell like you you know, So

890
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: at least that's what I can say. At least they

891
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: made an effort like no, we want to annihilate it.

892
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 4: We want Nielong or Reagan Gomez or or whoever else.

893
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: So at least they may make the effort. But if

894
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 4: you're not in those circles, which most of us are not.

895
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: And even if you've been out here for twenty six

896
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 4: fucking years, you won't get that job.

897
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it. That's what needs to.

898
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: Change, because even like a liberal white person is on

899
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: some like I don't see color is a positive, right,

900
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: Like we just didn't think of any race when we

901
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: cast this. This all cartoons and aliens, So who gives

902
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: it for? And you're like, that's weird. You didn't see race,

903
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 1: and let me check the roster.

904
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 5: White.

905
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting?

906
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: How not seeing race yeoded the same result as whites only,

907
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: Like it's.

908
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: I'm telling you maybe about maybe about four years ago,

909
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: and this was you know, the kind of auditions I've

910
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: been getting has made easier for me to be like, okay,

911
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: I'm I'm done. But I had a call maybe four

912
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 4: years ago. It was for a reality show. And in

913
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: my career, I call for a lot of these shows.

914
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: Me and my husband have been married for a long time, Like,

915
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 4: you know, people have been trying to get us on

916
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: a reality show for a long time. I always say no,

917
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: but this one I was like that. So I go

918
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: in and it's a white woman, a wealthy white woman

919
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 4: older than me, and she's like, you know the show

920
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 4: is going to be about I'm from Texas, right, I'm

921
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: from Texas where we eat like barbecue and like we

922
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: live on a farm. But my friends are Hollywood and

923
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 4: so they don't understand me being from the South.

924
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: Like that was the whole show.

925
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: So one, I'm like, do I need to fucking cuss

926
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: out my motherfuck agent?

927
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: What the fuck am I here?

928
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: Number two?

929
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: How do I fucking fit in? I don't even know you,

930
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: I'm not friends with you. And number three, do you

931
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: even know how blackness works?

932
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: So whatever your friends are saying, they don't do. I'm black,

933
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: so are southerns How do I fucking fit in?

934
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: Right?

935
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: Even having to cut all of y'all out.

936
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: Every single episode and look now on fire and run

937
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 4: fucking do the show first place?

938
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: Like so that's.

939
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Like Coleslaw, and then like Reagan's supposed to be like

940
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: cold flaw, I've never heard of that.

941
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: I'm an La liberal.

942
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: Uh like girl, what is this?

943
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to try this seasoning. I put

944
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: some seasoning on this chicken head of it. Reagan, I

945
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: know this is gonna knock your socks off.

946
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it just would have been me whooping bitches

947
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: asses fell off.

948
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Also can't Maybe it's because I listen to your podcast

949
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. I can't see you and your husband like

950
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: are you in for TV?

951
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

952
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 7: Because he has such a laid back personality, I'm.

953
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: Gonna make him say I'm gonna make him say, h yeah.

954
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, because I remember when I first started hearing the podcast.

955
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 7: It's almost like y'all have two different types of energy,

956
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 7: but it works. It's like your energy is really high.

957
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 7: His energy is like lower. Because you say something, you

958
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 7: be excited, he'd be like, yeah, I'm like wow.

959
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: Likes he's a Southern California dude, very laid back, very

960
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: do we need to rush it's ninety degrees or if

961
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 4: the middle like that.

962
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: He grew up in Southern California and the vibe.

963
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: Here is just very, very different. So we balance each

964
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 4: other out. We work together. He's produced every piece of

965
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: original content that I've done. He's starting a lot of it.

966
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: So we have a plan. You know, we have a plan,

967
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: and we like working together.

968
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: We love each other, and it's like I tell my children, like,

969
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: you know, we're lucky in that there are four people

970
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 4: in this house, and yeah, we are all on top

971
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 4: of each other, but we love like we love kicking

972
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: it together. If we don't have to leave the house,

973
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: it is fine. And I'm constantly checking in with my kids, like,

974
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: you know, how are you doing?

975
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: Like I know this is a lot. School might not

976
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: be what we thought it was gonna be. My oldest

977
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: has a phone, so I'm checking in, like how are

978
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: your friends doing? How are you doing?

979
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 7: And she's like, I'm.

980
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 4: Cool if I don't if I don't have to leave

981
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: the house at least for right now, she's she's absolutely fine.

982
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: And my little one is too. But we genuinely like

983
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: each other. We fuck with each other, we want to

984
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 4: hang out with each other.

985
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: So we're blessed.

986
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: And you see what you see what's happening in the Hollywood,

987
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: these divorces, This shit is getting real, like if you

988
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: was in one of these, Like, well, we be on

989
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: the road nine months out of twelve months, so it's

990
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: all good.

991
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 7: Two weeks and then everybody back on the road again.

992
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 7: Now I got all the time.

993
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time I look at white people news, now

994
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: it's like so and so getting a divorce, someone and

995
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: so getting a divorce because they've been up in the

996
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: house and been what three months, They're like, you know what, dog.

997
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: It's not even gonna work.

998
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 7: I didn't realize. I like, not knowing you.

999
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be in Proude right now filming a sequel.

1000
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: This shit is not even cool to just be in

1001
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: the crib with you right now. So and then the

1002
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: other thing, if you listen to Aganomics, I like, is

1003
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: like ragging up y'all. If you bring up something like

1004
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: Trump or something, you know, she's like, and this motherfucker

1005
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: diglah blah blah blah, and then it'll get to him.

1006
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: He be like, yeah, it's messed up.

1007
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 7: It is just hilarious to hit the energy level.

1008
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: That man.

1009
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: I love. It is funny. But we we mellow each

1010
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: other out. We balance each other out.

1011
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: You need it, you need it, We need it. You

1012
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 5: do need it.

1013
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: And like even with you'all podcasts like, I can't listen

1014
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: to a podcast if you can feel if the hosts

1015
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: don't like.

1016
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 7: Each Yeah, people don't believe it.

1017
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: I like him people, you can feel like. I want

1018
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 4: to feel like I'm listening to family. I want to

1019
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: feel like I'm listening to people who like each other,

1020
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: fuck with each other, and I hope you know.

1021
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 3: I think people feel that when.

1022
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: They listen to Reaganized, because we don't agree on everything,

1023
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: but we value each other's opinions.

1024
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: And look, we both have history.

1025
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 4: That a lot of other people don't have as far

1026
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: as like HollyHood, the music business, modeling and all this

1027
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: kind of stuff.

1028
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: And most of our memories and the lessons that we

1029
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: learned were before for the social media age.

1030
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: So it's being nice to be able to say things,

1031
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, from when we were nineteen or twenty four

1032
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: that people didn't necessarily know about. Come here and come

1033
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: say hi, Come say hi. Yes, so it's my husband, everybody,

1034
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: he's so fine. We're talking about recognomics and the show

1035
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: comes say hi, can you read?

1036
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: Go ahead?

1037
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: Uh h. I know your voices. I don't know your face.

1038
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Same thing, same thing here. We know your voice and

1039
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: it's our first time seeing you on the show and everything.

1040
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely pleasure to meet you.

1041
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 7: You're too sweetie.

1042
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: You have saved time. Work man.

1043
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: We appreciate our such of workers over here at the

1044
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: Black Guy Tip.

1045
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 5: Can we do.

1046
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: That's right?

1047
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: That's right, you need a raise, I mean doing it.

1048
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: But I love doing that's making the podcast.

1049
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: That's the other thing too, like because people used to

1050
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: get disconfused with our show. But it's also like when

1051
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: you disagree, it doesn't have to be disrespectful. I think

1052
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: people are so used to like, I don't know, like

1053
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: TV reality show type disagreements where it's like I don't,

1054
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't.

1055
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: I think it could be like this one.

1056
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: I think it would be like that, you motherfucker are

1057
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: It's like nah, I like, we gotta live here, you

1058
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1059
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: We have a lot in common.

1060
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: There's a reason we are married, and I think people

1061
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: lose that when they think of entertainment. They want to

1062
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: see like over the top, like Tom and Jerry fights.

1063
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 6: Yes, and you know, particularly when we first started doing

1064
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 6: this show, I had to tell people. I was like,

1065
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 6: y'all do know when these mics go off, I got

1066
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 6: to look him in his face with the words he

1067
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 6: just spoke to me, you know, and y'all ain't.

1068
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 7: Gonna be here for that.

1069
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta live here.

1070
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 4: A lot of people too like maybe this is something

1071
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: new with the social media age, but people look at

1072
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 4: social media and everything that's come out of it, like

1073
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: podcasts and if you have a YouTube thing, YouTube channel, whatever.

1074
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 4: All of it is entertainment, yes, all of it, every

1075
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: single word, every single conversation. So I should be able

1076
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 4: to say suck that that's dumb without what do you

1077
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 4: mean that's dumb.

1078
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: I've been doing this for fifteen years. I kind of

1079
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 3: know what I'm doing.

1080
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 4: People don't like that nuance, the complexities, the humanness of

1081
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: the human condition where you can believe one thing yesterday

1082
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 4: and get some new information and believe something completely different tomorrow,

1083
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: and that is okay.

1084
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 3: I don't mean you're fake or you're a hypocrite or

1085
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's okay.

1086
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: And people, you know, want to they want to fight

1087
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: because that's part of entertainment as well.

1088
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, authenticity.

1089
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's called growth.

1090
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 6: And you know, and if you're looking at somebody from entertainment,

1091
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 6: you don't want them to grow. Because they grow, they

1092
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 6: might mess around.

1093
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 7: To not be as entertaining, yeah, or just change.

1094
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean I think loud to with social media, like

1095
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: people like to have their like static, they won't. Human

1096
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: means to be static fixtures so that we can always

1097
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: feel the way we feel about them. So you know,

1098
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: it's like when someone messes up and they give a

1099
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: genuine apology and they change their behavior.

1100
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: Some people feel like they lost something.

1101
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I can't just log in and be

1102
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: like you ain't shit every day because you did listen

1103
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: and you did do the things and you did so

1104
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: now I have to come up with a new way

1105
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: that you ain't shit because I can't let it go

1106
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: and vice versa. Right when someone messes up and we

1107
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: like them, we got to come up with a way

1108
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: they didn't mess up. Like, well, hold up, no, it's

1109
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: okay if you're from this side of the street in

1110
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: this city, they say, I'm like, so you do end

1111
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: up with that? How do you deal with because you're

1112
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: very active on Twitter and stuff, how do you deal

1113
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: with it as far as like, you know social media,

1114
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: you know when when to use your voice when not to.

1115
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: There's all this pressure, right, like if you don't say anything,

1116
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: then you basically killing trance people out here.

1117
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: And if you do say.

1118
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: Something, you better say it right because if you don't,

1119
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: and then then yes and these other people. Of course,

1120
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: because the thing I keep thinking about with with the

1121
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: industry of Hollywood and stuff, because so much is nepotism.

1122
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: What happens to the outspoken people who are getting who

1123
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: are getting something now. But if y'all think the white

1124
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: people feelings is just gonna you know what, my heart

1125
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: grew three sizes and I was happy to give up

1126
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: my TV show or some of them are gonna want

1127
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: to have like revenge and stuff. So how does the

1128
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: pressure of like when to speak when not just be

1129
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: what the cost is all that stuff?

1130
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: How does that build up on you?

1131
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: Well, thanks, Rod, I hadn't really thought about it like that.

1132
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: But yet there is.

1133
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: Usually a blowback because it's not necessarily that Hollywood punishes

1134
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: outspoken people.

1135
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: What are you being outspoken about?

1136
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: Because mel Gibson is still fucking Mel Gibson and whoever else,

1137
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 4: So what are you being outspoken about?

1138
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: I think the thing that is on our side is

1139
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: that no matter.

1140
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 4: Okay, we know the reality of what Hollywood is, and

1141
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: it's made up of these people like that white woman

1142
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: CEO at Sony or what.

1143
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's made up of these people. We're

1144
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: not surprised.

1145
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 4: And even when you think about somebody like a Harvey

1146
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: Weinstein is a Democrat, he is a liber.

1147
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: These are the people that you're dealing with. These are

1148
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: the good guys, the ones that you want to work with,

1149
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: you know.

1150
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: But I think the thing that is on our side

1151
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 4: is that even if it's bullshit, we want to be

1152
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: able to say we are liberal, we are progressive, we

1153
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: are the future, we are amplifying marginalized voices, even if

1154
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 4: it's bullshit. So in this time way in the whole

1155
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: world is like you need to put your we need

1156
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: to put your feet to the fire and see what

1157
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: it is the good side of history because of the

1158
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 4: whole pr of what Hollywood is. They want to do better.

1159
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 4: Will they We will see. But the pr of Hollywood

1160
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 4: is that they're not the Republicans. Republicans do not want

1161
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: to hang out with these people. They are, you know,

1162
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: Barack Obama, and like we get to hang out with

1163
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 4: Barack Obama and Michelle and all the cool people. So

1164
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 4: it isn't their best interest to want to keep pushing

1165
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: the culture forward. But they're not gonna do it easily,

1166
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: and we're gonna have to literally kick the ass the

1167
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: whole way.

1168
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, all the content gonna have to

1169
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: be dope in shit because twice as hard stuff we get.

1170
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the day when I shit can be

1171
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: kind of whack.

1172
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that when we can be mediocre, that's what I'm

1173
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 7: rooting on.

1174
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 6: And and for me it's maybe I'm on the outside looking,

1175
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 6: and it's very frustrating when we do we have so

1176
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 6: much black content.

1177
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 7: Like when we were growing up, we didn't have as

1178
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 7: much black content as we do.

1179
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 6: Right now, you have Atlanta and Secure, like you name,

1180
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 6: all these different shows coming on different networks, Cable and

1181
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 6: all this stuff, you know, all the Blackish, you know,

1182
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 6: and all that stuff. And it's funny though, how people

1183
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 6: complain about stuff, even things it's mediocre, they complain.

1184
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 7: I was like, it's equality when we could be mediocre.

1185
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 6: It's equality when we can have bad stuff and it

1186
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 6: just be bad and it's okay, Like that's part of

1187
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 6: the equals.

1188
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 7: It's like so much even stuff out.

1189
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: There, even having black even having black stuff that's not

1190
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: for you. It's progress. Yes, it's taken a while. It's

1191
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: taken a while for people's minds to adjust. And I

1192
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: do think it's gonna happen one day, you know, because

1193
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: we obviously you never see this kind of pressure on

1194
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: white shows.

1195
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: Ever, like white people shows like it's Melrose places.

1196
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 1: None of us are like but what about the middle class,

1197
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: working white Americans who don't have representation on Beverly Hills

1198
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: from two or up, Like that's just fine for them

1199
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: to do that, And hopefully we're getting closer to that

1200
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: because there's so much content now and there's so many ideas.

1201
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: And then I notice that there is a pressure on

1202
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: black people, whether like Reagan, you're going into produce scene directing, right,

1203
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: and then there's this pressure, right because it's not just pressure,

1204
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: but it's like an obligation that we feel like and

1205
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna bring up the other black voices. Now

1206
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cast other black actors, and then they're gonna

1207
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: move up, and then they're gonna kind of do the thing.

1208
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: And I notice things happening a lot, so like, do

1209
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: you feel that kind of pressure on your work where

1210
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, the tweets gotta match the work.

1211
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: I gotta figure a way out to like not just

1212
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: get on, but like push the envelope to where it's like,

1213
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, like like like I got all this pressure

1214
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: to represent.

1215
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 7: You know what.

1216
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 4: It's interesting because in you know, when I was on

1217
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 4: the WB in nineteen ninety four, before it was even

1218
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 4: a network, and living through the nineties of having so

1219
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 4: much not even not even just black TV, but black film, music, I.

1220
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: Mean fashion, I mean nineties was It's so.

1221
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of these conversations that people who

1222
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: might have just gotten on maybe two thousand and two

1223
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: or within the two thousands and didn't get to experience that.

1224
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: That's what people are saying.

1225
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 4: But if you grew up like on parent we only

1226
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 4: had black directors, right, we only had black hair and makeup,

1227
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: We only had black assistant directors and producers and all that.

1228
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: So that is my foundation. That is not nothing new.

1229
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 4: And whether it was Parenthood or one on one or

1230
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 4: I don't know, if I went to UPN or look

1231
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: the UPN and the WB.

1232
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: We had that black shit. Yes, okay, we had that,

1233
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: and that was down from the from the.

1234
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 4: Bottom to the top, not necessarily the network owners, but

1235
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: when you come on that set, it is a black set,

1236
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: whatever fucking show it was on on either of those

1237
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: two networks.

1238
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: So I've always had that in me, but also like.

1239
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: It wasn't until I started directing on my own, because

1240
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 4: I've been you know, an actor and worked with shit

1241
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: directors where you basically are directing yourself like that's nothing new.

1242
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 4: But it wasn't until I really sat down, put pen

1243
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: to paper and wrote a story in characters and then

1244
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: had to raise the money, come on set and shoot

1245
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: it that I realized how much I fucking learned watching

1246
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: Robert fucking Townsend.

1247
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: Yes, the parenthood like he did, all.

1248
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: Of those lessons that I did not appreciate. Then they

1249
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: are so important to me as a filmmaker right now.

1250
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 4: And I also do feel a way about parenthood not

1251
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: getting the respect that I think it deserves, not only

1252
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: for me because whatever, Zara ya whatever, but because here's

1253
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: this show that this man who already came off of

1254
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 4: the legacy of Hollywood Shuffle and My Heartbeats and.

1255
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: The Superhero movie that he did. That's my foundation and

1256
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 3: he was already doing that. So none of these conversations

1257
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: are new for me. They're not new for me. So

1258
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: I don't really look at like I have.

1259
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: To watch what I say, you know, or somebody's not

1260
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 4: gonna want to hire me or whatever. I've never looked

1261
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: at it like that. Even when I got on Twitter,

1262
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 4: I was on The Cleveland Show, which is a Family

1263
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 4: Guy spin off. What the fuck is seth mc farlane

1264
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: gonna call me and tell me don't say that on Twitter.

1265
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: It's Sethn Farland.

1266
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: I wasn't getting those kind of phone calls like you

1267
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: need to watch what you say or whatever.

1268
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 3: It's It's never been like that with me.

1269
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: And also, I think when it comes to the business,

1270
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: there is a truth that if you're interesting in knowing

1271
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: the answer, people will ever kind of be a bad

1272
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 4: thing for those people to say those truths. And I've

1273
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 4: always been very honest about missing black Hollywood. I've always

1274
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 4: been very honest about you know, us not having the

1275
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: opportunities that we need and deserve to thrive.

1276
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: And I've always been honest about those things.

1277
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: So I you know, as I get older, and especially

1278
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 4: with this year and this presidency, I do try to.

1279
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: Pick and choose what I want to talk about.

1280
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: And I think I've curated a pretty good timeline and

1281
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 4: community for myself, Like I'm not following people who are

1282
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: always tweeting outland just shit and you know whatever.

1283
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: And I think by now people know what they get

1284
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: when they follow me or whatever. But I've never.

1285
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: Had to kind of not say what I wanted to say. Now,

1286
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: I think you have to be very careful on how

1287
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 4: you articulate yourself, right. But I've never ever felt like,

1288
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I can't say this if it's the truth.

1289
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: I've never had to do that.

1290
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 6: What is one of the jewels that you can share

1291
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 6: with us that you learned from Robert Townsend?

1292
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh man.

1293
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: It's such a good time.

1294
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: And the older I get, the more I look back

1295
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 4: on that time like wow, like wow, that shit was

1296
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 4: so dope.

1297
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 5: He was very.

1298
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 4: First of all, I don't know if I've ever told

1299
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: this story, but we had completely we fired our producers

1300
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 4: and everything from the first season.

1301
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: From season one to season two.

1302
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: Season two is kind of when I considered the Parenthood

1303
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 4: really finding its groove. But he was very open and

1304
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 4: upfront about the issues that he had with scripts, the

1305
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: issues that he had with producers, the tone that he

1306
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 4: wanted to set on the show. We prayed before every taping,

1307
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 4: because this is back when you used to take in

1308
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: front of a live studio audience.

1309
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: Yes, Ytta, you know, y'all, people don't know nothing about that.

1310
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: But yes, it was very much like we are putting

1311
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: on a performance.

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Speaker 4: We are about to put on a performance, and we've

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01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: rehearsed this whole time, and we prayed before we go on.

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Speaker 4: The children were so protected, We were very protected on

1315
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 4: the show. We were very protected on the show. And

1316
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: I just I miss honestly, I miss the set. I

1317
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: missed the foundation, and I miss the feeling that it

1318
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 4: gave me. Because even though I've done you know, whether

1319
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 4: it's Queen Sugar, which I love that set as well,

1320
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 4: you don't really get that feeling anymore since we don't

1321
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 4: have the WB and UPN no more. We have black

1322
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: Ish and all those other kind of shows like that,

1323
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 4: but it's not that feeling that you used.

1324
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 3: To get back in the day. It's not there no more.

1325
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it will ever come back.

1326
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not supposed to, and we're supposed to kind

1327
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 4: of take that for the lessons that we learned and

1328
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 4: move on. But it was a very special and specific

1329
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: time and I'm very proud that I was able to

1330
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 4: be a part of us.

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think of Robert Holsond. I think of like

1333
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: legacy and heritage and stuff, because like I remember, like, uh,

1334
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: one of some of the first memories I have of

1335
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: like just funny silly black shit is Partners in Crime,

1336
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: which used to come on HBO which you know, I

1337
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 1: wasn't really supposed to be watching, but my dad would

1338
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: let us watch funny stuff even if it was already

1339
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: and like that's how I found out about the waynes Like, like,

1340
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at.

1341
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 5: That shit, it's like all these niggas was on this

1342
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 5: at the same time.

1343
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: Like Robin Harris of course knew each other.

1344
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 5: Yes, Chris Rock, Yes, knew.

1345
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 7: They bought each other up. It was like each time

1346
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 7: one when they bought each other.

1347
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 6: So if you go back and you we watched that stuff,

1348
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 6: you at the time, nobody knew that some of these

1349
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 6: people were going to be the legends that they were

1350
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 6: going to become. But when you go back and watch it,

1351
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 6: you'd be like, oh my god, this is like three

1352
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 6: and four and five decades all in the same yeah

1353
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 6: and yay.

1354
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: Like and you're carrying on that heritage. You carry on

1355
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: that legacy. So even like like you said, it's not

1356
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: really much to like to you, it may not feel

1357
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: like much like, oh, y'all still speak up and I

1358
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, and the idea of me having a black

1359
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: said is no big deal, but it does mean a lot,

1360
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: like and there is a sacrifice to it, whether you

1361
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: recognize it or not, because there are people that get

1362
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: mad at just black people wanting.

1363
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: To matter, like so you know that, you know.

1364
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: I remember when when Ava had I think the first

1365
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: season Queen Sugar was all women directors of color or

1366
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: something like that, and people like really were writing her, like,

1367
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: but then what about the white people that didn't get

1368
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: the director episode? She's like, are y'all serious?

1369
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 7: Are in the world?

1370
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: You know what's so crazy in the tradition of black

1371
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 4: people doing shit that helps everyone else? She does say

1372
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 4: nothing about the the directors are only going to be

1373
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 4: black women, they're white women on that because the ship

1374
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: that we do helps everybody, even if you're not in

1375
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 4: that crew, because guess what, white women have a hard enough,

1376
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 4: have a hard time to shows.

1377
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: And it's so easy.

1378
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: It's so interesting too, because I remember at that.

1379
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: Time, Jessica Jones came out like maybe a year after Sugar,

1380
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: and there was like every director will be a woman,

1381
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, didn't able to do this already?

1382
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah made history, made history. Yeah she sure did, now.

1383
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 6: What I go ahead, Carys and she came she was like,

1384
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 6: but yeah, what about this Game of Thrones over here?

1385
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 7: By the raven about were the women directors for that?

1386
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 7: But y'all coming at my neck? Come on, come on.

1387
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: For real though, Now, what what I will say, Like

1388
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 4: looking back on the nineties, like it was very even

1389
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 4: as far as black culture went, it was very black males.

1390
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 4: This had straight male even like with Robert Townsend and

1391
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: Keenan Ivy Ways and Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock and

1392
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: Charlie Murphy knowing these people and coming up with these

1393
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: amazing you know, shows or writing for each other's shows

1394
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 4: or whatever the fuck there was Monique from Simone and

1395
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: all of these other black women comedians that did not

1396
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 4: get not even that Robert because I still don't think

1397
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: Robert and even Keenan Ivan.

1398
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: Walliams has not getting the respect that they deserved.

1399
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 1: None of them gonna get ye, none of them gonna

1400
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: get the respect they reserve.

1401
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: That's just that's part of being black.

1402
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: But you're right, there's the other thing that's weird though,

1403
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: you had like living single Moe shuh.

1404
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like even that seemed like like referends.

1405
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was like a big hit.

1406
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: When when when all that stuff disappeared, it was like

1407
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: black women doubly disappeared because like black women did have

1408
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: some some like representation, but then it was like once

1409
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: that era was over there like shut down the upn

1410
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: we don't need these girls, no more homeboys and out

1411
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: of space.

1412
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: It's like, well there were never any homegirls and out

1413
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: of space? What about them? Right when they're coming back?

1414
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 6: And no matter how you feel about these women as

1415
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 6: they grow, because they're grown. But even Sister Sister was

1416
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 6: groundbreaking at that time because how often did you see

1417
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 6: two black girls actually literally being.

1418
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: The star Up's so raven, Like it's definitely like a thing.

1419
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like, but I feel like it's coming

1420
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: back though, oh no, it definitely is.

1421
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: Like that's why, like I really do. I love this

1422
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: age of my children.

1423
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 4: I love it because they're old enough to wear especially

1424
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: during quarantine where you know what mine need, use my

1425
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: time so I can be in my room for hours

1426
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 4: at a time and not worry about if they're falling

1427
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: down the steps or into the knives or whatever.

1428
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: The kids be doing.

1429
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 4: They're at the ages where they like to chill on

1430
01:06:54,800 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 4: their own too. But I've really been loving watching TV them.

1431
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 4: I have loved because because I'm a fan of animation

1432
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 4: and even like tween shows and stuff that are on

1433
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 4: like free Form or whatever. A lot of the content

1434
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 4: they're getting is really amazing content. There's this show that

1435
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 4: Scarlette watches on one of the Disney channels, and it's

1436
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 4: called Andy Mack and it is about this Asian girl

1437
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 4: not in high school yet. So these are middle school kids.

1438
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 4: She's being raised by her grandmother. Her mother is a

1439
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: single mother. But her friends are like gay or like

1440
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,479
Speaker 4: coming out like to each other, and like they're talking

1441
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 4: about racism and one of their friends, I think is

1442
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 4: in a wheelchair.

1443
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: Like all of these amazing stories that you know, these

1444
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: kids are getting.

1445
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 4: And that is another reason why people are so mad

1446
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 4: because we can be adults see Black Panther or whatever

1447
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 4: the fuck. But if you put like a quality show

1448
01:07:54,960 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 4: that is full of diverse young people, able, disabled, black, white, whoever,

1449
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 4: kids want to see other kids. So people are like

1450
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: they have a special They really want to control the

1451
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 4: content that our kids watch.

1452
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 3: But a lot of this content is so good to

1453
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: be able to go back.

1454
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: I watched Disney Channel, like I watch the cartoons too, Ducktails.

1455
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: They had like a same sex couple that had like

1456
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: a child on there, like the two It was like

1457
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm with Dad and both of them had I went

1458
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: dash shirts, and I was like people were our age

1459
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: quote unquote, but it was like just a handful of

1460
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: people compared to when we were coming up, and it

1461
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: would have been like, get this show off the air,

1462
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: like they're losing this ground.

1463
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,919
Speaker 2: Partially because of media. It is because Steven Universe.

1464
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: It is because because the thing is with Stephen, like everything,

1465
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: every time they push back, I feel like everyone turns

1466
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: up the gay a little bit more. And I love

1467
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: it because it's like, by the time you get the Netflix,

1468
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you know what, because it went from

1469
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: like like don't put no gay people in nothing, and

1470
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: it's like okay, well let's do Avatar, and it's like

1471
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: this this is a little too gay. It's like, hmm,

1472
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: it's a little too gay. Okay, Well I'm gonna come

1473
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: right back with Voltron.

1474
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 2: Hey wait a minute, this is getting kind of gay.

1475
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: Shera, You're like, god, damn, this is Gay's hell.

1476
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: I love it, like it's push push all the boundaries

1477
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: and shit is getting blacker. It's everything is getting a

1478
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: little bit more pushed out that to the envelope, and

1479
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: I think that it makes the world better. Like That's

1480
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: one of the reason I'm not against like painting the

1481
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter on the street or pulling down the

1482
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: statue because part of the symbol. The symbolism matters too,

1483
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: because symbols is what inspired you to create and to

1484
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: see what you can and cannot be.

1485
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, And also I think for me something I want

1486
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 6: to piggyback on what Ray's head. Also, kids today are

1487
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 6: at a point where they actually are touching topics that

1488
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 6: they never would have touched back in our day. Like

1489
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 6: we grew up and they were scared to talk about

1490
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 6: just about everything that turns funny.

1491
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 7: And now we're adults.

1492
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 6: So kids are getting shows that are like I'm watching

1493
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 6: this show not called y I Think k I p

1494
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 6: O on Netflix and it's an anime and it is

1495
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 6: a beautiful anime. It's about like these people that were

1496
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 6: like blow.

1497
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 7: Ground and.

1498
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 9: K I p O's k I p O Kippo And

1499
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 9: so it's about this little girl. She's about thirteen years

1500
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 9: old and it's about this this little girl she was

1501
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 9: just like you.

1502
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 6: Were somebody that tween age. She was, Uh, they were

1503
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 6: underground and they never been on the surface world. So

1504
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 6: the surface world had evolved and changed at the beginning,

1505
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 6: it shows you the world, and it shows you the

1506
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 6: world kind of deteriorate above your above your eyes.

1507
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: So the people had went underground.

1508
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 6: So she ends up being on the surface, and how

1509
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 6: she adjust on the surface, and how she adapts on

1510
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 6: the surface, and how she's meeting all these people and

1511
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 6: friends and they they they're not ashamed of about gays.

1512
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 7: They're not ashamed of being gay. Like she likes this

1513
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 7: boy and she was like, I like you.

1514
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 5: He was like, I don't like you like that.

1515
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 7: She was like, okay he was.

1516
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 6: He was like, because I'm gay, like like and there

1517
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 6: was just flat out because I'm gay. It wasn't no,

1518
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 6: because that's how life is, right right, It wasn't no.

1519
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 6: But but but I looked at the raining.

1520
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 7: It was like Pg.

1521
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 6: Seven and up, you know, So it was like, Oh,

1522
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 6: it's like, y'all are talking about deep topics people children

1523
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 6: really deal with.

1524
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 1: People hide behind their periods, like people hide bigotry behind

1525
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 1: kids Like Mark, kid can't see this. It's like, no, you're.

1526
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: Afraid to see it. Because if I didn't tell your kids,

1527
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: you don't.

1528
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: Want to talk children. Oh my god, how do I

1529
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 4: explain this to my children. How are you going to

1530
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: explain it to your children? Right?

1531
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 5: That's my niece is supposed to be.

1532
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Karen, you said that, you know,

1533
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 4: we we we didn't grow up with a lot of

1534
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 4: these things, and we didn't talk about it, a lot

1535
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 4: of these things, and then you look up and we're

1536
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 4: forty five and we're still not talking about these things.

1537
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: Wouldn't as far as logic.

1538
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 4: Goes, if we're talking about the human experience, wouldn't it

1539
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 4: be easier to involve a lot of these subjects in

1540
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 4: what children are watching, so that by the time they're seventeen,

1541
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 4: it's not a big deal if I like the trans girl,

1542
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 4: or it's not a big deal if my homie'es in

1543
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 4: a wheelchair or whatever like that makes you a better,

1544
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 4: more empathetic human being.

1545
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 5: People don't want that, and.

1546
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: It's not even a big the thing is to kids,

1547
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. Default Like like my niece,

1548
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 1: we went to see her basketball team, you know, a

1549
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when she was playing basketball a lot,

1550
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: and they had like a trans girl on the team.

1551
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: It's not No one gives a fuck. The kids don't

1552
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: give a.

1553
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: Fuck, So it's really just something really don't.

1554
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's adults and it's fucking biggest and people that

1555
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: have had things learn things you had to learn and

1556
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: unlearn your whole life. Those are the people that care

1557
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: the h and like you say, even tween stuff like

1558
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: Cloaking Daggers. I think what was on free Form The

1559
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 1: Runaways is on Hulu. That's for thirteen year olds. Everybody

1560
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: on the show gay, everybody on the show talking about race.

1561
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: Cloak and Dagger had one of the most like it

1562
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: had a scene about razors. Why. I was like, let

1563
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: me stop and check what is this?

1564
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 7: Pg?

1565
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: Thirteen? Okay, well good? I mean I loved it though,

1566
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: because it was throwing is a marvel thing. Oh superpowers,

1567
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: but also racism, you know. So I love that that

1568
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: creators are getting to do that in this in this

1569
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: world you know, where we even the escapism, it is

1570
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be teaching lessons, right, but it's always been

1571
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: the white lessons. It's always been like we're all together,

1572
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: We're all one. I don't see color, and I love that.

1573
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: You know, when a Black Panther is like, what is

1574
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: the entire premise of Black Panther the movie is what

1575
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: would the responsibility be and the obligation be to a

1576
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: black nation that was doing so well when black people

1577
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: were getting fucked all over the world.

1578
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 5: You couldn't have pitched that teen years ago.

1579
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: You couldn't have.

1580
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 5: Pitched that teen years ago.

1581
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: That Like, I love that we're pushing shit forward, and

1582
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 1: I like it's the best time.

1583
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're talking about diversity, what's funny is like

1584
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 6: children not taught diversities when they're infants, but as they

1585
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 6: get older, they have in tendency to be pushed.

1586
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 7: The reason why I said this is because I learned.

1587
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 7: Y'all know a lot of people's favorite shows, children's shows.

1588
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 6: If you watch the characters, you realize the different colors,

1589
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 6: shaped side, you have animals like and all that stuff,

1590
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 6: And they do that purposefully to show kids that this

1591
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 6: stuff don't matter. So kids are actually taught up going

1592
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter what color you are, it doesn't matter

1593
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 6: your side, it doesn't matter.

1594
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 7: Like this is putting them at a really really early age.

1595
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, though they used to do it

1596
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: through allegory, and we would accept that.

1597
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 3: Right.

1598
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: This episode is about why the swan doesn't fit in

1599
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: with the ducklings. Now they're just being like this episode

1600
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: is why they being mean to the black girl. It's like,

1601
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: I like that better, let's just talk about it because

1602
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: this can actually change something in real life and make

1603
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: a kid have a lesson that they wouldn't have gotten.

1604
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: So I love it.

1605
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true. And also, uh something on the low Sesame.

1606
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 6: Street been kind of hitting it and running because they

1607
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 6: were like, we gonna we're gonna have puppis with aids,

1608
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 6: were gonna have puple disabilities, we were gonna have puppets,

1609
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 6: did a homeless, were gonna have puppish in a single.

1610
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 7: Parents Like they was like, we gonna talk about it

1611
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 7: all because you know.

1612
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 6: You're Sesame Street and you're talking to children that death

1613
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 6: are from all these vast backgrounds, and children want to

1614
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 6: be represented on TV too.

1615
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 3: M definitely, definitely.

1616
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 4: And I remember there was a book that was on

1617
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 4: sale on the Timeline a few years ago.

1618
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 3: I think prison Culture. I think that's her.

1619
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 4: I'd be forgetting people's Twitter names, but there's this account

1620
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 4: that I follow. I think it's prison Culture or something,

1621
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 4: and they were selling book about children who had.

1622
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: Incarcerated parents, and people were kind of like, no, don't

1623
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: do that. That's people's families. Why right, that is people's

1624
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 3: family gonna act like them?

1625
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 4: Aren't children who have parents who are incarcerated and they

1626
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 4: still love it.

1627
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: There's still a family. What does it mean to be family?

1628
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 4: Like we take these what these these rules and laws

1629
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 4: that white people have given us when they've never been

1630
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 4: a plot, They've never applied to us. We always had

1631
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 4: all different kind of families. Like, so, let these children

1632
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 4: feel like, Okay, I'm not an embarrassment, I'm not right

1633
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 4: in sham.

1634
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 7: Right, I didn't do shit. This is my mama can't

1635
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 7: help that.

1636
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 4: I love her, she made a mistake or whatever the fuck,

1637
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 4: Because we know how prison works in this system, they

1638
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 4: might not ad did shit right, So, but.

1639
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: Like, why are people so against like giving people these options?

1640
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: If we know human beings are not a monolith, even

1641
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: within black, our black community, black American culture, we know

1642
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: we're not a monolith, why do we push back against

1643
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: expanding It's just like me and my oldest we watch

1644
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 4: polls that is a black family show to me, yes,

1645
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: and there's nothing you can tell me that will say

1646
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 4: because these are young people who have been kicked out

1647
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 4: of their homes and they are creating Why is that

1648
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 4: not a black family show.

1649
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 3: Why is that not looked at as a black family show?

1650
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, the Cosbee show.

1651
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: Or they live in they live in houses, they call

1652
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: like they have a mother, like the like the entire thing,

1653
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: and then like I believe, even season one opens up

1654
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: with Damon being kicked out of his house and coming

1655
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: to New York and having to live on the street,

1656
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: Like that's a story that has.

1657
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: Been taken out of everything else.

1658
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: That's a story that we haven't we haven't wanted to tell,

1659
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: either out of shame, out of just not having that

1660
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: lived experience, or just want to ignore it and be like, well,

1661
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: if we don't talk about it, it's like it didn't happen.

1662
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: But there's a whole lot of people who never get

1663
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: to see themselves. I remember the there was like a

1664
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: commercial for the Barbie doll and they had like a

1665
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: boy playing with a Barbie And people were like, how

1666
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,839
Speaker 1: come they got a boy in here playing with Barbie's

1667
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: They teaching them the wrong lesson? I said, no, no

1668
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: one's learning any a lesson. Don't thing someone's learning is

1669
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: that there's a kid out there learning. I'm not alone,

1670
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1671
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: That's what you're afraid of.

1672
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: You afraid. Yeah, Like you're afraid that some kid is

1673
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: gonna see themselves and it might make them not want

1674
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: to fucking die. It might make them want to kill

1675
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: themselves because they said, hey, nothing's wrong with me.

1676
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: There's other kids like me like that. Stuff is important.

1677
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: So all the symbolism and stuff, whether it be Hollywood music,

1678
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: all this stuff, social media is so fucking important because

1679
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: if not, man, you really do end up having people

1680
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: follow in the margins, people that we don't pay attention to.

1681
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: It's true.

1682
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 4: I was gonna say real quick, because I know you

1683
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 4: probably have a million other things to talking about, but

1684
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it's it's important too, and that

1685
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: the fact that we are getting so much black content,

1686
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,560
Speaker 4: these are conversations that we have never been able to

1687
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 4: have with each other. What does a black family look like?

1688
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 4: What does black children's content look like?

1689
01:18:58,760 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 6: You know?

1690
01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 7: What is that?

1691
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 4: But also other people of color are having those same conversations.

1692
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 4: Latino people are not a monolith. What does it mean

1693
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 4: to have something somebody tell a story from I don't know,

1694
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 4: Mexico versus Puerto.

1695
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: Rico, right, you know?

1696
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: And and in communities and the more and more those

1697
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 3: marginalized among us are getting our shine.

1698
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna be having these messy conversations that we've never

1699
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 4: been able to have before, and it's not a bad thing.

1700
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 3: It is not a bad thing.

1701
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 4: We have to push past our discomfort and realize that

1702
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 4: if we're gonna do this shit, then everybody should have

1703
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: something for them.

1704
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw someone also brought up Betty in the

1705
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: chat room and that that was dope.

1706
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: I watched that.

1707
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: You can watch that in like a day if y'all

1708
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 1: have go and Max likes.

1709
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 3: And the movie that it was. The movie is based

1710
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 3: on Skate Kitchen is also a really good movie.

1711
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: I think that's on that too, right. I think it's

1712
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: all like I thought it was.

1713
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: But but yeah, even like stuff like that where because

1714
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: I wat shit and if like I don't maybe like

1715
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: the first two or three episodes, I was like, I

1716
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell this is about.

1717
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 5: Like it's like.

1718
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: Everybody just skating, having a good time and then doing

1719
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: drugs and then not having a good time. I don't know,

1720
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: like like the Big CRUCKX of like one episode just

1721
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: they can't find a bag. I was like, the States

1722
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: is much lower on this stuff, Like I'm so used

1723
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: to seeing black people in in like life altering trauma

1724
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: and all our all our ship that was. It took

1725
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: me like two or three episodes to be like, Oh,

1726
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: nothing's bad, don't really happen to nobody. Oh I can

1727
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: just relax and enjoy these like weird like it's like

1728
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: when it's the turn, Yeah, I'm like, oh, these black

1729
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: people just they can just do drugs and skate all

1730
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: day and nothing like the police aren't going to come

1731
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: and like kill them or anything like you know. So,

1732
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: but but it's like a really interesting show that once again,

1733
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: how many people haven't heard of it?

1734
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: How you probably haven't seen a commercial for it.

1735
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: All this shit is out here and a lot and

1736
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: that's somebody's vision that somebody's dreamed, that somebody's idea of,

1737
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: like you know, what they wanted to see on TV.

1738
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: So it's just dope to living this time where we

1739
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: get so much of this stuff. So hopefully we get

1740
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: that with bikes when Reagan starts producing her stuff. What

1741
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: are you so like, what are you looking forward to

1742
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: coming out of pandemic? Are you like trying to hit

1743
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: the ground running? Are you gonna be like you know

1744
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stip dip a toe in the water. Let

1745
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: me see when we get this vaccine, Like what what

1746
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 1: are you thinking?

1747
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I haven't even thought about the vaccine because

1748
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 4: you know how black folks are with this, the medicine

1749
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 4: and all of that.

1750
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, and this is like a major thing.

1751
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 4: So y'all go first and let me see how that go,

1752
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 4: which also doesn't make any sense because I mean, if

1753
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 4: the vaccine is gonna be saving your life, right, I

1754
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 4: do that other people need to go first, but they

1755
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 4: fucking need to go first.

1756
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 7: Right, it's any side effects I don't want.

1757
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: The part is we really should get it first, Like

1758
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: it's it's messed up because white people really try to

1759
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 1: do the favor because there was like y'all group getting

1760
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: it the worst.

1761
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: Y'all the most marginalized. Y'all have the worst health care.

1762
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: If anyone should get the vaccine, black people should get

1763
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: it first, and all of.

1764
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 2: Us is like yeah, but tuskey though, so.

1765
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 3: Like why are you picking on it?

1766
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: Like we want it first, like we were like when

1767
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: they get this ship done, we should get it first.

1768
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: We the ones on the front line, We the one

1769
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: gotta keep going to work. Then they was like, Okay,

1770
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: you're right, we're gonna give it to you first. Why

1771
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: do you want to give it to me first?

1772
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 4: Though?

1773
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: Explain you're too excited about this?

1774
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: What's in it?

1775
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 7: Right? Who?

1776
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Who all gonna be? There is?

1777
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: We can.

1778
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 7: Go like, like who made this vaccine?

1779
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: I want them to give it to an important white

1780
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 2: person first. I want to see like some important white

1781
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: people get it.

1782
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: First, and then if they if they take it, I'm

1783
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: be like, all I'll tell you what, give it to

1784
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, and then we're gonna see y'all because y'all

1785
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't let y'all wouldn't let Tom Hanks die. Y'all wouldn't

1786
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: let Tom Hanks die. Every Right, everybody loved Tom Hanks.

1787
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to sacrifice some well meaning white people

1788
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: up front, be like all right, Betty right, I mean

1789
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: Betty White, come on out here. Everybody love you, says

1790
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: we need you to take one for the teams.

1791
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 5: This ship don't work.

1792
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 7: We need to know, Okay, you ain't gonna give me

1793
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 7: a shot.

1794
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 6: And I really get that third out everybody talking about

1795
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 6: him said, my faehead, I do the like y'all said,

1796
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 6: y'all woke, and y'all want the third eye.

1797
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 7: We gave you one.

1798
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 5: Yes, we're gonna.

1799
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 7: Miss around. You know, they already got the old thing.

1800
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 7: We gotta tail. They was like, we're gonna actually give

1801
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 7: you a tail, Reagan.

1802
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: You live out there with the anti vaccines man, they

1803
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: might not even want to take it.

1804
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 7: I know people, I do not.

1805
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 3: My circle has nothing to do with them people at all.

1806
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 3: Those are them crazy white people over there. I keep like,

1807
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: you gotta remember, you know.

1808
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 4: Black people that live out here too. It ain't just

1809
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 4: the crazy hippies. They run everything, but we out here too.

1810
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: And I don't know the people.

1811
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 6: She's about to dig in her person, pull out a

1812
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 6: mint and put it on.

1813
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 7: I don't know the people. I do not.

1814
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 3: I do not know the people.

1815
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 4: But what am I looking forward to when whatever the

1816
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 4: new normal, when it becomes the normal? Honestly, I am

1817
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 4: looking forward to finally being able to uh make a

1818
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 4: living off of directing TV and film.

1819
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 3: That is what I want. My whole thirties was.

1820
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 4: Starting to do that and actually, you know, putting stuff

1821
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 4: on my YouTube and production and hiring and casting and

1822
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: all that, and I love it and I'm never going

1823
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: back so from my forties, I really appreciate that my

1824
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 4: my the way my age works, my age goes along

1825
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 4: with the years.

1826
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 3: So anytime it's a new decade, it is literally a

1827
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: new decade from as well.

1828
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 4: So I'm really looking forward to not only myself being

1829
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 4: able to make a living off of the content that

1830
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 4: I want to create, but I want to help other people.

1831
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 4: I follow so many amazing content creators, including y'all. But

1832
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 4: like black women directors, black women writers, you know, trans

1833
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 4: women writers, we just we tied of the same old shit.

1834
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 4: I don't want to turn on the TV and see

1835
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 4: a show that could have been eight years ago.

1836
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 3: We want some new shit. We want some new shit.

1837
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 3: So that's what mixts me.

1838
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 4: That's what my passion is, and that's what I'm looking

1839
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 4: forward to getting finally getting that started.

1840
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: I want some new shit too, but I'm not gonna lie.

1841
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: I also want to take all the old white shit

1842
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 2: and make it black.

1843
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: Like I look like, I know a lot of a

1844
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: lot of black people be talking down on it, but

1845
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: I like when we do some shit like that, we

1846
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: be like what like I think they try to do

1847
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: like a black wonder years. I was like, do it

1848
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: take their shit. Let's let's see if we can make

1849
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: it hot of. I don't know, like it might turn out.

1850
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 6: I might like it.

1851
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they have the father on there with

1852
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: a Jered curl. I'll be like, see it was Jered

1853
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: curls back in the day when we're gonna get that

1854
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: Jered currole representations and that she was flying back.

1855
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I had a Jermy Curll, j My Jared

1856
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 6: Caroly to my shoulders and you couldn't tell me nothing.

1857
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 7: I was shaking the juice everywhere.

1858
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. When we first met, When we first met, Karen

1859
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: had the had the Jered Carl I did you know.

1860
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: I still remember that she came over to me. I

1861
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: was on the bus minding my business. Karen just came

1862
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: on the bus.

1863
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 7: And she just out of.

1864
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, uh, She was like, is this seat taken?

1865
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 5: I said, you can see.

1866
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: Him, ma'am, because that's what you call people with Jered

1867
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: curls back in the day.

1868
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: Okay, called them ma'am.

1869
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: It didn't matter.

1870
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: It was in third grade, but nah, that was.

1871
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: I was bold like that though.

1872
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 7: That's just myrovert itself. And what's so.

1873
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 6: Hilarious about Roger is that you almost have to tell

1874
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 6: Roger because Roger was like, you like me. It's almost

1875
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 6: like you have to hit him outside the head because

1876
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 6: he was like, I want to be sure I got consent.

1877
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: That's what make me such a Dave Hollister faithful man.

1878
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: Because I don't know who's flirting with me.

1879
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: I'll never know.

1880
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 7: He missed all the clues. I'll be like, baby, you

1881
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 7: know she was hitting on you.

1882
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 5: He be like she was.

1883
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, the harassed woman was hitting on you.

1884
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: You'll never have to worry about me going Jada on

1885
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: nobody because I'm gonna be like, I didn't know what

1886
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: was happening.

1887
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 7: Like that's right.

1888
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, Now, Dave Hollister, he used

1889
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: to put he used to make some music. Okay, now

1890
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 4: that's a totally different conversation.

1891
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: I say he made step great stepfather music.

1892
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 5: I love that house.

1893
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: He made great like this a good man music. You

1894
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: can smile listen to his songs him he don't be

1895
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: going to the club or nothing. You want to give

1896
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: up early, go to church and cut the baby.

1897
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he had a baby on you.

1898
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: But he's sorry, right, he ain't really mean that. That

1899
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: was before he really understood what he had. Okay, but

1900
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, I honestly, I know you said like we

1901
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: had so many other topics. I really wasn't playing on

1902
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: talking about anything else. We just wanted to talk to you.

1903
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 8: Really.

1904
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this was fun.

1905
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 4: Okay, So let me ask, So y'all been married a

1906
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 4: long time like me and my husband, we've been married

1907
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 4: twenty years this past November.

1908
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 3: We got together fifteen sixteen. I know y'all got together

1909
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 3: young too.

1910
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 4: So when watching the Will and Jada the video, me,

1911
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 4: me and my husband watched it together and it's just

1912
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 4: it's just very interesting. The levels, right, So I didn't

1913
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 4: really go into this on Twitter because you got to

1914
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 4: pick a time and place right. The levels to it, Like,

1915
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 4: I'm actually happy that they even though you people don't

1916
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 4: care if you put your business out on the street,

1917
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 4: and I can understand why a lot of people, as

1918
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 4: far as their marriages go, would not put their marriage

1919
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 4: out out like that, especially being celebrities or whatever.

1920
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on one second, ring, We're about to

1921
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: get cut off. So you were saying about Jada before

1922
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 1: we got really cut off by crowdcast.

1923
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 4: Okay, So like, okay, so the levels to this now, now,

1924
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 4: as far as August goes, I will say how they

1925
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 4: met is a little suspect. As far as like the

1926
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 4: power dynamics, I think, if we're being fair, we could

1927
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 4: say that, you know that power dynamics on how they

1928
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 4: how they met, because we know if the roles were reversed,

1929
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 4: it would.

1930
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: Be it would be looking a little it would be

1931
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 3: looking a little a little weird.

1932
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 4: Now past that I appreciated, and maybe this makes the

1933
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 4: Smiths so good because they're so likable, and I hope

1934
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 4: I'm not wanting them people that's like they could kill

1935
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 4: somebody on Fifth Avenue and I was still.

1936
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 3: Support but they are just such a fucking likable couple.

1937
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed watching them talk about and be open

1938
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 4: about their relationship like that, like a set aside the

1939
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 4: very questionable, you know, level to it that you know,

1940
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 4: it's fair to look at how they met and the

1941
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 4: fact that they wound up becoming romantic a little bit,

1942
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 4: get past that about their relationship.

1943
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 3: As a couple that's.

1944
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 4: Been married for twenty five years, I have to say

1945
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 4: it was a bit refreshing to see two adult people

1946
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 4: be so honest about not only their marriage but marriage

1947
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 4: in general and also like, Okay, these two people, they

1948
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 4: still like each other. Whatever happens after this, if they

1949
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 4: get divorced and some other shit come out. The show

1950
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 4: Jada was a little bit more not on the up

1951
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 4: and up, whatever it was. It was really refreshing seeing

1952
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 4: them talk about marriage like that. And I feel like

1953
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 4: whenever people ask.

1954
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 3: Me, you know, oh my god, it's the secret and

1955
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 3: I I really.

1956
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 4: I don't like those questions, and I never know what

1957
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 4: to say because what they are looking for me to

1958
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 4: say is not what I want to say, and it's.

1959
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,959
Speaker 3: Not what I would say. There's so many levels and there's.

1960
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1961
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 4: It was just really refreshing to see them say I

1962
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 4: was fucking tired of your ass, and I wasn't never

1963
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 4: going to talk to you again. But now we're back

1964
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 4: and we're okay. But it is a thing, a constant

1965
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 4: thing that you have to.

1966
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 7: To work on.

1967
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 3: And I don't think I've ever seen, especially.

1968
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 4: A black couple, because so many times black media we

1969
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 4: just love black love, especially if it's a man and

1970
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 4: a woman.

1971
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he stayed with y'all. Ass, Oh that

1972
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 3: is just amazing. Just tell us about love.

1973
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 4: We can't really get into the nitty gritty because it

1974
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 4: doesn't make marriage look fun. It doesn't look make marriage

1975
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 4: look like a project that people expect marriage to be.

1976
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 3: So I thought that was I thought that was that

1977
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 3: was really interesting.

1978
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've always said this.

1979
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 6: People love the idea of being in love, but they

1980
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 6: really don't actually understand.

1981
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 7: That love isn't love is an action, not just love.

1982
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 5: You know, you have to show that you love.

1983
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 6: And when the thing is, I'm like you, when people

1984
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 6: ask those questions, they really don't want the truth. They

1985
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 6: just want you to tell them something flowery and loving

1986
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 6: so they can just feel good about the idea of

1987
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 6: actually being in love.

1988
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 7: I tell people, you know, this happened, hasn't happened in

1989
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 7: a while. But when people just tasking should I get married?

1990
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 7: I was like no. They'd been like what, I'm like

1991
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 7: you asking me no, because you.

1992
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 6: Should already if you know this is something that you

1993
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 6: want to do, you should not need me for confirmation

1994
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 6: of your love, you know. And then I tell people,

1995
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 6: whatever it is that you think you know about marriage,

1996
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 6: toss it out, because every single marriage is different, you know,

1997
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 6: because everybody has these things on how they think it

1998
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 6: should go, like these visions and dreams, you know, when

1999
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 6: you're young and how you imagine things to go. But

2000
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 6: your imagination and reality might be two different things, you know,

2001
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 6: but you know that's that's the truth.

2002
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 7: But that's the truth that people don't want to hear.

2003
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did watch it because I wanted to know

2004
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: for myself. I don't really like secondand information, so I

2005
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: wanted to see this shit. There were so many things

2006
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: that I was struck by. The number one thing is

2007
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: that the game is to be so not told, so

2008
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 1: like I didn't really have the.

2009
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: Illusion of believing like they told us all their.

2010
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: Business because they had that's kind of what they like,

2011
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: especially with Jada, she kind of sells like, you know me,

2012
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: you know my business.

2013
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,799
Speaker 7: The smith very good and right, and so they're really.

2014
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: Good, Like Jada been doing this thing for years, but

2015
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 1: she kind of tells you enough and then people fill

2016
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: in the gaps. But it's really us filling in the

2017
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,520
Speaker 1: gaps with our own projection, whether that be our own insecurities.

2018
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Like I was more interested in seeing like a lot

2019
01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: of the responses and how people could watch the same

2020
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: ten minutes and take away completely different shit. Yes, Like

2021
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 1: people was like, oh he hate her, and like you

2022
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: said you saw that party Saint bad marriage for life,

2023
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 1: that's abuse, and like it's just weird. And I was

2024
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 1: just like, I don't need like this is an episode

2025
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 1: of Insecure, like y'all are coming away with completely different

2026
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: things and what I did, And so I didn't really

2027
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: talk about much of what I took from it, but

2028
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: it felt like to me where you have to have

2029
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: that underpinning of friendship. And I say friendship, but what

2030
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: I really mean is partnership. You really need to have

2031
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: an underlying like partnership to make all this shit work.

2032
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: And the truth is it doesn't always look good on

2033
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: the outside. There's so many things like if you navigate

2034
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: shit by people's politics on Twitter and their stances and stuff. Sure,

2035
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: like there's certain things I believe for the world, but

2036
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: then when you look at like real life for people,

2037
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: people's politics in.

2038
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 2: Their personal lives are kind a difference.

2039
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: So like I might be a feminist, but I also

2040
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: like the door open for me, you know what I mean,

2041
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: Like like I might you know, like I uh, there's

2042
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: I like cooking for my man or whatever.

2043
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 7: We have a a I like paying the bill right right.

2044
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: They're like they're so that's gonna lie. But those are

2045
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: the kind of things we don't really necessarily publicize because

2046
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 1: we're worried about being judged. And so to me it

2047
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: felt kind of like it felt good to see two

2048
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 1: people that were in each other's corner who had dealt

2049
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: with this already. It was kind of being rehashed for

2050
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 1: the public, but to me, I took it as a

2051
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: form of like, this is security. These are people that

2052
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: are secure in their marriage, secure in their life, to

2053
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: where showing us this very like, uh, this very like

2054
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: intimate moment of their lives. A lot they would have

2055
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: had every right to be like, we're not talking about

2056
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: this shit. And so for them to even give you

2057
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 1: a glimpse, no matter how you got the glimpse, whether

2058
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent of what's happening or fifty percent

2059
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: of what's happening, nobody owes you that just because they're

2060
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: a celebrity, and I was kind of surprised to see

2061
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: them even do it. I wouldn't have been shocked that

2062
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: they would have just said we're not talking about it,

2063
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:14,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I wouldn't have been shocked

2064
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: because they had every right. So I was just kind

2065
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: of in all the whole time. And I really did

2066
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: appreciate the raw honesty of Will being like, I was

2067
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: through with you at one point, Like, so this thing

2068
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: that we look at as a quote unquote betrayal, it

2069
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: sounds like to Will, he was saying, like, I didn't

2070
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: see it that way because I was doing over the

2071
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: fuck I wanted.

2072
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: I was ready for the divorce. You was ready for

2073
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 2: the divorce.

2074
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: We were separated, and I like, it didn't matter to

2075
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: me whatever happened. And I thought that was like a

2076
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 1: real thing to say that to somebody and to say

2077
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: and for both of them to really say it to

2078
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 1: each other in front of everybody.

2079
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: Well, we know they still are together now.

2080
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: To be like there was a period in time where

2081
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: things were that bad made it through not saying everyone

2082
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 1: should do that. Some people, you know you're having a

2083
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: bad time, you'll want to be together, do whatever you want.

2084
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: But to me, there's something about the resilience of that,

2085
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: the forgiveness of that, the loyalty of that, and the

2086
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,560
Speaker 1: love that it takes to heal from something like that,

2087
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 1: I think is all amazing. And the way they redefined

2088
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: their boundaries and their marriage after that, I think is

2089
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 1: a testament to uh, just resilience.

2090
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 4: Another another thing that was really interesting that I don't

2091
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 4: think we're used to seeing is when Will said, oh

2092
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 4: my god, I'm in the woman's position. When you know, whoever,

2093
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 4: what athlete, or whoever you know, is accusations come up.

2094
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 4: The wife is usually always there rubbing the husband's back.

2095
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,600
Speaker 4: And I thought, you know what, he's right, because we

2096
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 4: were kind I was expecting it to just be Jada.

2097
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,600
Speaker 4: I didn't even consider that Will was gonna be there like, Okay, no,

2098
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 4: this is a conversation for both of us. And not

2099
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: only that, I'm not gonna leave you out there to

2100
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 4: handle this by yourself, right, I'm gonna be right here

2101
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 4: with you, supporting you, loving you through it whatever. Whatever

2102
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 4: he said, it was traditionally kind of flipped.

2103
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially especially in a patriarchal society, because how

2104
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: many jokes have been made essentially that are based on

2105
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he is a man in his position right,

2106
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: Like a lot of the jokes aren't really necessarily funny jokes.

2107
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: They're just jokes about, oh, look a man, had this

2108
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 1: happened to him, He.

2109
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 5: Got cheated on.

2110
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 2: That's not how it's supposed to happen, you know, So even.

2111
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 4: When even when Jada was like, you know, what, did

2112
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 4: she say whatever I did, If I did choose to

2113
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 4: do this, the only consent is from myself.

2114
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 3: And I will agree with her.

2115
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 1: And the fact that people said, the fact that people

2116
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,560
Speaker 1: said cheated when they both were like we there was

2117
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: no exclusivity at this point in time, and people still

2118
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: but because it's a man, I believe people still had

2119
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: to be like, it's cheating, and because also, like you know,

2120
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm a weirdough man, like I love love, but I

2121
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: don't think of love traditionally in the way that a

2122
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: lot of people think of it, like I think of

2123
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: love like me and Karen have a very traditional love

2124
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: from the way that people you know, it checks all

2125
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: the little marks that they like and shit. But to me,

2126
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: it's not like I was living my life like I

2127
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: hope I check these boxes for everybody else. I don't

2128
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: really give a fuck what they think. And I think

2129
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people's love has to be.

2130
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 1: If you wanted to work, it really got to be like,

2131
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck how it looks to y'all.

2132
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: It's about our house and what makes it work here

2133
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 1: and about respecting each other. And to me, that's kind

2134
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 1: of what it felt like, was this is gonna look

2135
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: janky to a lot of people on the outside that

2136
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 1: don't live in my house, but it works for us,

2137
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: and so I appreciated that part of it.

2138
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did too. I did too.

2139
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 4: And I'm always like the fact that the Smiths are

2140
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 4: so likable, don't respect it as like one of our

2141
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 4: black couples, like the Obamas or whoever, and we put

2142
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 4: them on such a pedestal. It was nice for them,

2143
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 4: both of them to be like, we fucked up and

2144
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,759
Speaker 4: we were not gonna come back, but here.

2145
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: We are, And I love how they weren't Like, I

2146
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 1: love how because everyone's gonna like, you can look at

2147
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: the chat right now. People are taking from this whatever

2148
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: they want, So it don't matter what they said, so let's.

2149
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: Just skip over.

2150
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: But what I what I saw that I thought was

2151
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 1: really dope was them being like, it's not an open marriage.

2152
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: It just was fucked up for a period of time.

2153
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: Cause I'm like, that happens a lot to people. That's

2154
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: not like open marriage is a little bit more rare

2155
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: than the We was just fucked up for a while,

2156
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: and we had to get right. That one is way

2157
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: more if that was like it's a little chunk of

2158
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: that circle of people. That's like we were in the

2159
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: open marriage and things. You know, we just were just

2160
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: out here. It's a lot more like, uh, we thought

2161
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 1: we were coming into this and some holy ttrimony, just

2162
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 1: me and you, and then at some point somebody, somebody

2163
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 1: flipped the table over and so I kind of mployed

2164
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: that they cause that cause to me, everyone was like,

2165
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 1: why didn't they just come out and say it's open marriages?

2166
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: Like that would be the easy answer, because then they

2167
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: can make it all look okay, like, oh no, no, no,

2168
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: we have an open marriage. The red table talk would

2169
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: have been three minutes. Hey just wanna let y'all know

2170
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 1: we got an open marriage, August. Let the cat out

2171
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: the bag, so don't worry about it. But for them

2172
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: to be like, it's not open it was fucked up.

2173
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Speaker 1: The ops.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: They braver than me, you know, because I probably would

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01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: have just lied and they're like, y'all, we'd be having

2177
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: sex with everybody. Please stop paying attention to our business

2178
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: and what it's like.

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01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 4: Really interesting too, because like you know, you got to

2180
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 4: pick and choose what you choose to talk about on Twitter.

2181
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 4: But so I was like, I'm not necessarily going to

2182
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 4: talk about them, But I asked, do you have any

2183
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 4: if do your parents or your parents or grandparents have

2184
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 4: they been divorced for a very long time or not together,

2185
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 4: but they still kick it like they're still friends. They

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01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 4: still call each other at the family cookouts. Do they

2187
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 4: still hang out? And everybody was like, yes, you know,

2188
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 4: my grandparents they have been divorced for forty years, but

2189
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 4: they still love each other. So we have these non

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01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 4: traditional relationships for real in our families.

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01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 3: This is not something new. It's not like it's the

2192
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 3: marriage between a man and a woman. You stay together.

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01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 3: That's the only way we know. That's not true in

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01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 3: our real lives. So I don't know why we can't

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01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 3: take what we see in real life. Give us some nuance, Yeah,

2196
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:33,480
Speaker 3: some complexity.

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01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 1: We being conscious uncoupling for years. Okay, a lot of

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01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: y'all got some consciously un couple of parents right now.

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01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 5: And the other thing too.

2200
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: And so when I say I'm a little bit weird

2201
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: about love, like I do believe love is all related,

2202
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: just the way that like bigotry and hatred is all related,

2203
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 1: Like you can't be like I selectively hate I hate

2204
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 1: gay people, but you know racism is wrong and y'all

2205
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: need to stop. No, no, no, you either all in

2206
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 1: and you all out. Love is a little bit like

2207
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: that too, where like the love you have for your family,

2208
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: the love you have for your friends, all this shit

2209
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: flows from the same like river, and you have these

2210
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: tributaries that kind of like float break off, and some

2211
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 1: of it becomes romantic, some of it becomes just familial

2212
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and there's like not necessarily an amount,

2213
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: like love is not a thing that's finite, where it's

2214
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: just like and now I'm out of love.

2215
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 2: Well I'm spent, you know.

2216
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: So I feel like a lot of times what happens

2217
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: is it has to transform over your lifetime. The Karen

2218
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: that I met at sixteen is not this woman over here,

2219
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: and I'm not sixteen year old Rod, and like the

2220
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 1: love right, and so when you make this commitment to

2221
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 1: each other, what you're really saying is I'm gonna make

2222
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: an effort to continue to try to like divert to

2223
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: keep our paths together, you know, to keep converging over

2224
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 1: and over and.

2225
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 3: Over grow together. And there's no way that there's no

2226
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 3: way for you to know whether that's gonna.

2227
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 6: Work or not.

2228
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 3: You can't know you And even if you grow apart,

2229
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean either of you are.

2230
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Bad people, right, It doesn't mean.

2231
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 4: Some abuse or toxicity or whatever. But people grow apart

2232
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 4: all the time. Yes, there's no way you can know.

2233
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 3: There is no secret. Either you still fuck with each

2234
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 3: other or you don't.

2235
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: And if you don't, that is fine too, And that

2236
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the love disappears. Like the thing that

2237
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: I thought was so dope for them was this idea

2238
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: of like, whatever form our relationship takes, we are bonded forever,

2239
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: so it doesn't even matter, like even if we found like.

2240
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 2: We're no longer together.

2241
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: She like that they're the way they visualize it is

2242
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:41,799
Speaker 1: that they will never get divorced.

2243
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,719
Speaker 2: But even if you even if a divorce is sheet.

2244
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 1: Of paper, even if they got divorced, like this idea

2245
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 1: of we're in it forever because of our kids, because

2246
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: of the connections and the mirrory they have.

2247
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 2: This is just us for life. Like that's some real shit.

2248
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: And I think in this time period where people are

2249
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: so like we're so individualized, right, we all have our

2250
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: own platforms. We all have our social media. We're a star,

2251
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: our work, our creativity. Everything is like an individual project

2252
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: or group project that one person has to take credit

2253
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: for and to see like people be like, no, it's

2254
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: a partnership, no matter how it looks like we ride

2255
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: or die. Like I kind of appreciate that because I

2256
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: do think the second somebody makes somebody look bad.

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01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 2: Now you motherfuckers be friends for years, friends and quotes

2258
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 2: for years. One of the fucks up.

2259
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't I don't know who that man.

2260
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 6: I absolutely did never heard of it because y'all didn't

2261
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:36,560
Speaker 6: have a foundationship.

2262
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 1: I hate to sound ridiculous, but I have, Like you

2263
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 1: just see people do that over and over, and I

2264
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: think there's a toll that's happened in societally for people

2265
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: to do this. Like I'm not calling it cancel culture

2266
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: or whatever, but there's something to castigating people and like

2267
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 1: like like disavowing people as socially, like you know, it's

2268
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: very it's such a weird impulse that we have. It's

2269
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: like we want to prop the picture of our lives.

2270
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 1: We want to filter the angle and all the shit

2271
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 1: of our of our actual existence and be like I

2272
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: never made a mistake, and anyone who's made a mistake

2273
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: has never done it around me, because I would never

2274
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: be And it's like I love that two people.

2275
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 2: Was like, I love the crust of you.

2276
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: And yes, this this moment right here looks shitty to everybody,

2277
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 1: and I'm still here with you.

2278
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 2: Something was dope. I thought someone was dope about it.

2279
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 3: I thought it was super dope.

2280
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 4: But people look at this, look at children the same way,

2281
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 4: having children the same way.

2282
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 3: People think.

2283
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 4: It's just you know, you have a baby, it's just

2284
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 4: an accessory, that an adorable accessory that you can just

2285
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 4: bring with you everywhere, and children are human.

2286
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 3: Beings that go through things that you know.

2287
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 4: It's it's it's really something like people don't look past

2288
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 4: the actual wedding or.

2289
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 3: The day give birth to your baby or whatever.

2290
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 4: They don't really look look past that, and maybe there's

2291
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 4: no way to be able to look past it because

2292
01:46:58,200 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 4: you don't know what life is.

2293
01:46:59,120 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 3: Going to bring you.

2294
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 1: I feel like now, with like social media, everything's a snapshot, right, yes,

2295
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:08,719
Speaker 1: like everything is the look my baby is here, Okay,

2296
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 1: that was one second that we saw. There's a whole

2297
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: fucking life outside of that. So like are you going

2298
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: to be able to like take care of this life

2299
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 1: when we're not around? What about the days when it's

2300
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: not so glamorous. What about the days when you had

2301
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: your wits end and you cuss your kids, cussing your

2302
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,560
Speaker 1: kid and nobody's supposed.

2303
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:24,560
Speaker 6: To do that.

2304
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: But it's like, how uh, no one, everyone's a perfect parent.

2305
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: No one's ever cushed their kid, no one's ever hit

2306
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: their kid. But at the same time, none of us

2307
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: grew up and said, well, y'all was never touched. My

2308
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: parents never raised their voice. So it's happening, right, things

2309
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: are happening, and then we're cropping it out now, so

2310
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: now we're just like, no, no, no, I'm a perfect parent.

2311
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 1: Here's my kid graduating, Okay, all right, we'll be back

2312
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 1: when they get from college.

2313
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 2: Here's when graduating from college.

2314
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 7: Cool.

2315
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 1: Cool, Here they got a house, and then but all

2316
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: this other shit that happened them days when you were like,

2317
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe she snuck out of the house.

2318
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 2: What the hell are we gonna do? You know, those

2319
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 2: days happened too, we don't talk about it.

2320
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: And the same thing with these marriages, the days of

2321
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: people don't talk to each other, the days where someone's like, hey,

2322
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 1: I made a mistake, the days where someone fucked up

2323
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 1: the money, them days happened. No one shares those days.

2324
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 1: And to see a couple like this share a day,

2325
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: share this moment, I couldn't. Yeah, I couldn't even imagine it.

2326
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't even honestly. People wrote in and talked about

2327
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: it on our pregame show that we do, and I

2328
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: remember being like, I don't even know if they're gonna

2329
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: address it, because no one does this anymore, you know,

2330
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: So I thought they were just gonna deny it and

2331
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: be like it never happened. We don't know this man.

2332
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's what everybody do. But yeah,

2333
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: I appreciated them keeping it real.

2334
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 4: What did you think?

2335
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2336
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 6: What now?

2337
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 1: What do you think like being in in like Hollywood

2338
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, do you ever worry about people

2339
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: being like me talking about me? Or uh, you know

2340
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see like Jada at the supermarket or something.

2341
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: Not that you said you didn't say anything bad about them,

2342
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, do you ever worry about that?

2343
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 1: Because to us it's just news of famous people will

2344
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: never meet, but you might see these.

2345
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 4: People but we are in a reality where everybody is

2346
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 4: on social media, from Will and Jada to I don't know,

2347
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 4: aviad di Vernet to whoever, and we're all seeing this

2348
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 4: news at the same time. We're also in a place

2349
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 4: where a lot of people like I look at Matthew Cherry, right,

2350
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 4: he just won his Oscar this year, So his whole

2351
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 4: social media has been I'm just a dude on social media,

2352
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 4: like trying to make movies and stuff. I don't know

2353
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 4: how you can go from that, being on Twitter for

2354
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 4: eight nine years like that, and then winning an Oscar

2355
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 4: and then now there's these new rules like you're an

2356
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 4: Oscar winner, you're not supposed to But it's.

2357
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 3: Like, but I still am Matthew Cherry. So I feel

2358
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 3: the same way about myself.

2359
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 4: Like my whole social media presidence has been very vocal

2360
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 4: about it. Black Hollywood, none necessarily people's relationships or whatever,

2361
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 4: but you know, we're here and they put they put

2362
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 4: that content out for for us to talk about.

2363
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 3: So I never really.

2364
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 4: Worry about like, I don't know, is this person not

2365
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 4: gonna want to work with me or whatever. But I

2366
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 4: figure if you're a fucking misogynist or a homophone, I

2367
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 4: don't want to work with your ass.

2368
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 5: I don't.

2369
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I am because I feel like,

2370
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: for me, there's no penalty or question for me, like

2371
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: making jokes about like Terry Crews, but like, I'm never

2372
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna see this nigga if I but like if I

2373
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:37,440
Speaker 1: was walking in the trade of Joe's.

2374
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 2: That's a big ass dude for me to like what

2375
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 2: he could be.

2376
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: Like, so, I know what, you called me a coon

2377
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 1: and then and that trader of Joe's, I'm gonna have

2378
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:45,520
Speaker 1: to be like, you know what, that was very disrespectful

2379
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 1: to me and rude. Okay, I disagree with your points,

2380
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 1: but why why are you taking your shirt off? Brou No, Like, but.

2381
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 3: It matters what he's saying, right, Absolutely, it's just random

2382
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 3: people who played his son called him out too on

2383
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 3: everybody is the one who played his son.

2384
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 4: So it's you know, he has well meaning people that

2385
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 4: are trying to reach out, and you know it may

2386
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 4: be okay, maybe you you know, Rod called them a

2387
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 4: coon or somebody people call, but I guarantee you there

2388
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 4: are people calling him like bro.

2389
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: What you absolutely yeah, I just I mean I just

2390
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: think about it, like I remember once I made a

2391
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 1: joke about Charles Oakley on Twitter because I didn't think

2392
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 1: it was his real account, so I made it it

2393
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 1: was like a Charles Oakley account and I was like yeah,

2394
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I whip his ass haha.

2395
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 2: Think it was funny. And he really responded back like

2396
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 2: like really or something.

2397
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 5: And I was like, this is this Charles Oakley for real?

2398
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,560
Speaker 1: And at the time, he was an assistant coach that

2399
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: Charlotte bobcasts me. He was in my city, and I

2400
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I absolutely apologize to you, sir. Okay,

2401
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 1: I was out of pocket. I don't know what I was.

2402
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: Thinking, you know.

2403
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: But so it just made me think about that because

2404
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's abstracting me to talk about some

2405
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: of these people.

2406
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 4: But I think, but it's true because you have you

2407
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 4: do have to have that moment where you're like, you're

2408
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 4: you realize, Okay, my words are not just going out

2409
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 4: into the void. People see what I'm saying, and I'm

2410
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 4: talking to people. I remember, like I've been on Twitter

2411
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 4: since two thousand and nine. So around when Basketball Wives

2412
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 4: first started this, this woman.

2413
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 2: Yes Yes Dwhite Howard Yes on the show.

2414
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 4: And she was dancing and she was the smallest side

2415
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 4: of everybody, and I said something I can't I don't

2416
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 4: think it was very It wasn't disrespectful, but I just

2417
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 4: made an observation.

2418
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 3: I didn't act her. I just said her name and.

2419
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 4: She responded back to me like what did you say

2420
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 4: or something like that, and I was like, okay, so

2421
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 4: let me I need to watch say I need to

2422
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 4: watch because everybody's online.

2423
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 3: Yat.

2424
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: Yes, we had an episode of this podcast where I

2425
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't like an album from uh Fonte, and then we

2426
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: ended up meeting Fane in real life and went to

2427
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: dinner with Fine like that ship Violce. Like I was like,

2428
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: I felt so bad because I was like, oh, this

2429
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 1: is real, Like so, I mean, I try not to

2430
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: say any just in life, I try not to say anything.

2431
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say somebody's face period, But yeah, it just

2432
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: made me think about that man because like these because

2433
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: the other thing is like they do such wild shit

2434
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 1: and they're so famous everyone is talking about them.

2435
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 2: So like, I just always wondered if it was like

2436
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: in the industry.

2437
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 1: It's like, I know, I really want to say something,

2438
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 1: but I don't feel like walking into this nigga at

2439
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 1: the Fox lot.

2440
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 4: Look I have picked, and I have chosen, choosing, chosen

2441
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 4: when to make those kind of statements. And I have before,

2442
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 4: and guess what, I wasn't fucking wrong about them or

2443
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 4: that particular person either.

2444
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,599
Speaker 5: So you know, the new thing too.

2445
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: Is you could say something and I feel like, especially

2446
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 1: right now in this climate, it'll get picked up because

2447
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm seeing old shit come up where people be like

2448
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: I said this in twenty sixteen about them and they

2449
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 1: ain't shit and people really like they're at home.

2450
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Okay, the job's to do that.

2451
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 1: We are finding the time. So you know, if you

2452
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,599
Speaker 1: got somebody you want to get out there, now's the time. Reagan, Okay,

2453
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 1: like yes, I well, I know.

2454
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 3: That's why I'm keeping my mother's like a mouth shut.

2455
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 4: Because everything I needed to say I said back in

2456
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen or twenty fourteen or whatever the hell it was.

2457
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 4: And when that article came out about Lena Dunham from

2458
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.

2459
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 7: I commented on it back back then.

2460
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess everybody forgot. I don't know, but I

2461
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 4: was like, why would I we talked about this in

2462
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. I mean, I guess the context of.

2463
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 3: What's happening right now we bored.

2464
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 2: We listen, it's not that deep.

2465
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 5: We bored.

2466
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I would love to give my people a lot

2467
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 1: of credit, but I've seen what's having it out there.

2468
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: We just hain't got shit to do. We we really

2469
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 1: bring it up stuff we like, remember when they killed

2470
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 1: the black girl on Buffy. I'm like, in two thousand

2471
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: and three, it's time, Okay, it's time we boycotting. Even

2472
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 1: damn boy.

2473
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 5: We actually even like even like with this.

2474
01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 3: With what's happening with talib Poly, like I've we've.

2475
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 2: Been fo each other, Oh my god, you know, but.

2476
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 4: Even this ship that's happening with Tyler, I really spent

2477
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 4: all day either with Saturday or Sunday, thinking.

2478
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 3: Am I gonna act this motherfucker?

2479
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not, because even like what he's doing,

2480
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 4: everybody sees that it's very bizarre, very weird.

2481
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 3: But also he argues all day day.

2482
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 4: Shows and Trump people is different because this is a

2483
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 4: black woman he's using his It's just however, many million

2484
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 4: people follow.

2485
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 3: Him are harassing this woman for days now. But that

2486
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 3: motherfucker argues all day every day.

2487
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 7: That's the thing.

2488
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: Though in a way, in a way, he's almost the

2489
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 1: most fair because he will.

2490
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 2: He will make the time for anybody. Like people was

2491
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 2: trying to be like, look at him going after this

2492
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 2: black woman. I was like, I don't want.

2493
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 7: Stick with it.

2494
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: But technically, this nigga goes out to every woman, every man,

2495
01:55:58,760 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 1: every human.

2496
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 3: Being, opportunity.

2497
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 7: Yes, that's my family.

2498
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 5: How the hell does he find the time?

2499
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: I look like, honestly, I will go and look like

2500
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: every couple of days just to see like is he

2501
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: still going.

2502
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 2: He's still going like.

2503
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 4: Researching, Okay, let me research this random act and see what.

2504
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 4: Oh you said this here and like quotes unquote.

2505
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 1: Somebody someone said because it had been like four days

2506
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 1: at this point, and they was like, you know you

2507
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: are you must be really mad. This nigga made a

2508
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: video of himself being like I'm not mad. I'm just

2509
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: having fun.

2510
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, my dude, put the phone down, Put the

2511
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 2: phone down. What is happening?

2512
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 3: Yes?

2513
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 7: And I do have like I do have.

2514
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 4: If it's something that like I'm passionate about or something

2515
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 4: that I'm really interested in, I do kind of have

2516
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 4: to self check, like, ogan, are you meaning a little.

2517
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 3: Too much right now? Are you looking?

2518
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 4: Because my husband is not on Twitter, most of my

2519
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 4: family they do Instagram and other ship.

2520
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm the Twitter, so nobody's really on here, so I

2521
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 3: do have to like, oh.

2522
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: God, I have a couple of I have a couple

2523
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: of people that will hit me up.

2524
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2525
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I have a couple of people that have

2526
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: hit me up. But in general, like I just stopped

2527
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: the thing. The problem for me wasn't that I don't

2528
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 1: be wanting to say stuff to people. It's just I

2529
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,680
Speaker 1: realize it's a waste of time, you know what. I Like,

2530
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 1: once I realized it don't matter, like well, I'm just like,

2531
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 1: but I do, let me show you how I disagree

2532
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 1: with what you just said. And they're just like, ah,

2533
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: fuck you, nigga. I was like, hmm, I just wasted time.

2534
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: I would never do this in real life. Uh so,

2535
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 1: uh I think that was.

2536
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 4: It feels like if you've been on Twitter long enough,

2537
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 4: it's the same fucking conversation.

2538
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yeah, but I just I can go I

2539
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 6: can go down for black Twitter is uh eve as

2540
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 6: two hundred dollars days right like like like.

2541
01:57:58,000 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 7: Then the main two that randomly bath.

2542
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you someone, baby baby Mama's you know, baby

2543
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 6: daddy is you know, because on the line with the

2544
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 6: sex is on.

2545
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 2: No, those are my favorite.

2546
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: When someone makes up a hypothetical situation and that becomes

2547
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 1: the thing everyone arguments over, like this didn't even happen.

2548
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: I call on Facebook means the stuff that like the

2549
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 1: pic like it's like a picture of a woman and

2550
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 1: lingerie looking at a refrigerator eating cheesecake or something, and

2551
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 1: then someone puts like you walk in the kitchen and

2552
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 1: your girl best friend getting something out the frize.

2553
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 5: What you're gonna do?

2554
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 1: It's like, y'all want to argue, y'all don't even this

2555
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 1: is never gonna happen to no one. That has never happened.

2556
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 3: Aside from that scene club jobs, that's a movie that shit.

2557
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 1: Don't happen, right, that's never happened. Okay, First of all,

2558
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: women that fine don't need places to stay. Second of us,

2559
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 1: they don't eat cheese, can't get three in the morning.

2560
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: That's how they got that fine.

2561
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 2: Just leave everything alone.

2562
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, that is how it feels like people get

2563
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 1: bored and now we're the most bored we've ever been

2564
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: and so yeah, but but I guess even celebrities though,

2565
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 1: like even because making the time for four five days

2566
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 1: and then people was dragging him. They was bringing up

2567
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 1: anything he ever did, and he still was going. It's

2568
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: it's really an amazing.

2569
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's still I'm sure he's still going right now,

2570
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 4: but it's just it's it's being on Twitter as long

2571
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 4: as I have. It is just wild to me how

2572
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 4: many of the quote unquote race heroes or the people

2573
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 4: that we've looked up to that have talked about race,

2574
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 4: whether it's public Chuck D in public getting.

2575
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:50,919
Speaker 3: Me or whatever, how ignorant they are on gender topics.

2576
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 4: And I got my heart broken by Chuck D maybe

2577
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 4: four years ago when that when that Tavis Smiley shit happened,

2578
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 4: and Chuck D was really going up for him, and.

2579
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 3: I was It's like, Wow, public enemy, fight the power.

2580
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 3: Chucknee can go on and on about race. You talk

2581
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 3: to him about being a woman, and it is just

2582
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 3: like the.

2583
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 7: Disconnect.

2584
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 1: Wow, ain't nobody reading Ain't nobody reading these women's books?

2585
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 2: Man, I'm telling you, like people read the.

2586
02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 1: Race books by like men and by white people, and shit,

2587
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 1: people might read the race book by a black woman,

2588
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 1: but nobody reads or listens to black women specifically talking

2589
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 1: about their own plight, man, Which is why you don't see,

2590
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 1: people have that empathy man, and it's not natural to

2591
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: have that empathy for men anyway. We're not taught to

2592
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 1: have empathy for women. We're taught to empathize with each other.

2593
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:41,960
Speaker 1: That's why you got you know, motherfucker's rooting for future

2594
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 1: and shit like, it's.

2595
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 2: Just people just weird like that.

2596
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I think that's the slap in the

2597
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 1: face when it's a straight black person's black man who

2598
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 1: does understand race so intricately, but then as soon as

2599
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 1: you throw in any curve ball with sexual orientation, it's like,

2600
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand any of this. I'm actually on the

2601
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 1: side of the white people with this one.

2602
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 5: It's just like what.

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Speaker 4: Happened so and there's no and there's no feeling of

2604
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 4: shame or like, gosh, am I wrong?

2605
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 5: Do I need to look this up.

2606
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 7: It's none of that.

2607
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:14,000
Speaker 3: It's none of that.

2608
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 1: It's really why I don't even be like I didn't

2609
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 1: know that. Let me go read about it and talk

2610
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 1: to you. It's like immediate defensiveness and fragility.

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02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you know, when you've been taught your opinion

2612
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 6: is always valid.

2613
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 7: Why question it?

2614
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean, if you're a black man, you

2615
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 2: haven't been taught that.

2616
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 1: That's that's why I's fucked up, because you actually have

2617
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 1: had people tell you you wrong on some shit you

2618
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 1: know you right about. And so you can't make that

2619
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 1: one lead to the next person and be like, oh,

2620
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 1: you know what, if it happened to me, maybe that's

2621
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: what's happening in you.

2622
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,040
Speaker 8: But I do think a lot of times it's a

2623
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 8: disconnect what I mean, Like when I say that, I

2624
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 8: meant in the quote unquote black community, your opinion has

2625
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 8: never been challenged.

2626
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 7: That's what That's what I mean from there.

2627
02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 6: Nobody's ever told you you're wrong because you've always told

2628
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 6: you to hit a household, You've always.

2629
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 3: Right.

2630
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were sad if we said the wrong thing,

2631
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 6: run away.

2632
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:12,280
Speaker 7: We ain't gonna never never see you again. And so

2633
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,400
Speaker 7: we'll do every thing possible just to keep you here.

2634
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 7: And that means not challenging you to actually grow and mature,

2635
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 7: you know, but for.

2636
02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 6: Right agree because because when it comes to white folks,

2637
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 6: people go, oh, the white folks, But in the black

2638
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 6: communities a whole nother up man like.

2639
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's one thing Twitter has done is demystify

2640
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff for me, that I definitely felt

2641
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 1: differently about before being on Twitter and seeing like everyone's

2642
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: inner thoughts, like the way I used to look at

2643
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: activism and activists.

2644
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 2: Before Twitter, and now it's totally different.

2645
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 1: It was like a like a halo, like like, oh

2646
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 1: my god, you're an activist, thank you so much.

2647
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 2: And now I'll be like this nigga just don't like

2648
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 2: this nigga watch this like like it's like.

2649
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 3: Yes, like we grew up knowing.

2650
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 4: Okay, Martin and malk like each other. They gotta like

2651
02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 4: this person. They gotta be well he just these random names,

2652
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 4: but like being able to see.

2653
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 3: Like in real time. Okay, they don't suck with each other, but.

2654
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 7: I see that.

2655
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 3: But they all have the same goal.

2656
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, if if we don't want or if we

2657
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 4: don't agree on the same way to get there.

2658
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was my lesson. That was my lesson

2659
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:32,160
Speaker 1: was being like, you know what, they human like us too.

2660
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 1: I gotta stop. Like it was really something I needed

2661
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: to learn because I was like, oh, this person doesn't

2662
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: like that person.

2663
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 2: So the day that this one gets an.

2664
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 1: Award, this other activit just happens to have a thread

2665
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 1: about how shitty this person is it's like, oh, because

2666
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 1: you know they in it like we in it.

2667
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 5: It's you know.

2668
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 1: And I tried to check myself too, because I would

2669
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 1: find myself when I disagree with people elevating them above

2670
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: how important they really are, you know, So I'd be like,

2671
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't like this person, Why the fuck they get

2672
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 1: all the ship. I'm like, I don't want to be

2673
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 1: like that. I'm a concentrate on my own race and

2674
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 1: leave it like that. That being said, thank you so

2675
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: much for being here, right, Okay, I know we.

2676
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 2: Took over time, but we really do appreciate you, and you.

2677
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 1: Know it's very rare. Yeah, and we love having like

2678
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 1: candid conversations and stuff like that. So that's why I

2679
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: threw out the the topics and stuff. We just wanted

2680
02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 1: to catch up with you and see how you were

2681
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 1: doing and stuff. So thank you for being here. Yeah, yeah,

2682
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 1: and let us know, you know, like whenever you have

2683
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 1: the new projects dropping and stuff, we always here to

2684
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 1: plug you, promote you. You can come on, tell the audience,

2685
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 1: get them excited like you know that anytime. So, and

2686
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm sad that we didn't get to meet at the

2687
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:45,839
Speaker 1: Black Twitter event. You were one of the few.

2688
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,720
Speaker 7: People, yes, so excited.

2689
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 2: Like I was like, I was like, it's no, it's

2690
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:52,880
Speaker 2: not even a secret.

2691
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 3: I was.

2692
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 1: I was openly like they had like a dinner, and

2693
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:57,080
Speaker 1: then the next day it was like a bunch of

2694
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 1: stuff we had to do. Like I forget what I was.

2695
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,400
Speaker 2: I was on some panel or something, but I was.

2696
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm skipping to dinner, like I'm not

2697
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 2: gonna be in these motherfuckers.

2698
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't look forward to any of this, and uh.

2699
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 1: And then Reagan, I was just randomly DMed her. She

2700
02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm going to this thing.

2701
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 2: I was like, I guess, I'm going.

2702
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 1: To the dinner.

2703
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 3: I guess, but it's true me too.

2704
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 4: I wanted to meet y'all. I wanted to hook up

2705
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 4: with Bossie with and I'll bring my thirteen.

2706
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:24,560
Speaker 3: Year old with me. So it was gonna be a

2707
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 3: nice little kind of vacation.

2708
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 1: But you know, next time, next time, for sure. All right,

2709
02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 1: y'all will be back tomorrow. And then, speaking of Bossie, Wednesday,

2710
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,920
Speaker 1: BOSSI is gonna be the guest on the show. I

2711
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:39,760
Speaker 1: believe that's at four thirty as well. So until next time,

2712
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 1: I love you.

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02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah,