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Speaker 4: Is Wednesday, October eighteenth, and we are live on Amazon

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Speaker 3: Here. We've got a big show for you today.

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Speaker 4: We got all kinds of goofy football basketball stuff to

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a classic old time Jenkins Shows episode.

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Speaker 4: It's always Jenkins Jones hosted by the Jetro Jenkins aka

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Speaker 4: John Dragonfly Jones aka A Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Everybody have a Gun? Produced by Jackson Stephon. Why why.

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Speaker 4: I'm gardy be a Mike mother fucking mind. I love Jackson,

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Speaker 4: but coming in on ironic was up.

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Speaker 3: Guyler was back in an ironic way.

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Speaker 5: Baby, I gotta be I gotta represent the youth.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the fold. You're in the trust tree.

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Speaker 5: I w day for so long.

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Speaker 4: You do want to see that tan line at the

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Speaker 4: mid shin from your baggy ass, Jean sh just a

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Speaker 5: I feel like our audience things I'm like sixteen years old,

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Speaker 4: Think you're a sixteen year old white girl or something that,

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Speaker 4: like anyways, like oh whoa Jackson?

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Speaker 3: I didn't even think Jackson had ears, or I don't

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Speaker 3: even know what I'm talking about. That they're just always

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Speaker 4: All right, let's start off by talking about Uh, I

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Speaker 4: have friends who are Chargers fans, and I have to

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Speaker 4: say I've been enjoying making fun of them that the

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Speaker 4: television put a enthusiastic Chargers fan on TV. And everyone's

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Speaker 4: immediate reaction is this has to be a plant, because

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Speaker 4: there's no way anyone actually cares as much about the Chargers. Tyler,

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Speaker 4: are you buying the conspiracy theory that this is a

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Speaker 4: paid actress or what.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I think she legitimately is a Chargers die hard, which

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Speaker 1: sounds like an oxymoron. But bro, every every fucking fan

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Speaker 1: base has some diehards. We saw that ship after that

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Speaker 1: fucking game. Y'all see that scuffle? You know that fucking

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Speaker 1: Chargers on Cowboys, hu, Bro, Yeah, motherfuckers was literally scramming

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Speaker 1: like there was they were motherfuckers were fighting on like

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Speaker 1: when Germain o' neil.

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Speaker 3: Trying to yeah hit hold silver surfer punch.

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Speaker 1: It was like eighteen and those Yeah, just a Germaine

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Speaker 1: O'Neil palooza out that motherfucker around.

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Speaker 3: You really want to fight, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like over football?

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Speaker 4: Come on, wet, polished new concrete, the slippery surface.

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Speaker 3: In the world you really need.

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Speaker 4: Put your kid in socks and push them without them

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Speaker 4: even moving their legs, and they would slide across.

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Speaker 3: Let's just stop glossy for me. I'm just let's stop

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Speaker 3: and have fun. Do you see this? Like?

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Speaker 2: You know we can enjoy this, bro. We don't have

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Speaker 3: You're breaking the fight up. Stop stop stop. We can

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Speaker 3: slip and slide on this guy.

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Speaker 4: First, you run, second, you jump, Third, you hit the bump.

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Speaker 2: And take it down doing the moonwalk in between people fighting.

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Speaker 1: Bro, did you see the dude? Did you see the

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Speaker 1: Looked like he was on the phone waiting on somebody

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Speaker 1: sees pop text. Yeah, I'm about elevator and motherfuckers are

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Speaker 1: I guess his girl or whatever was the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Season ticket holder.

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Speaker 4: Bro, He's just used to that amount of bullshit and

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Speaker 4: problem for the NBA, which they've obviously they're trying very

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Speaker 4: hard to address, was like fans feeling like the players

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Speaker 4: and I understand they're a money making machine. They don't

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Speaker 4: give a fuck about this a problem. I'm a I'm

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Speaker 4: a football fan. My son's a football fan. I can't

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Speaker 4: imagine him taking taking him to an NFL game till

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Speaker 4: he's old enough to throw a punch, bro, Like, it's

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Speaker 4: those games are fucking chaos, man. I'm a Niners fan too,

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Speaker 4: and you know it's extra chaos. The Niners fans are

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Speaker 3: Wold as hell?

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Speaker 4: Man, I don't know, bro, whatever? All right, did you

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Speaker 4: see too, Tyler? Did you see h Thanks to friend

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Speaker 4: of the show Pablo Torre, Troy Aikman is now on

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Speaker 3: He looks like jay Z.

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Speaker 1: Bro the internet. Man is like, like that just started

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: We are living in an era where I feel like

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Speaker 1: everyone is so connected that if something goes viral enough

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Speaker 3: And that's like a prime example of that. Bro.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you you understood that earlier in the moment.

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Speaker 4: You said something very early in me knowing you in

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Speaker 3: Is not a bit who just you know, sells Wolf

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta put that out there, but that but

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Speaker 4: that is like for all of human history. That's a

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Speaker 4: obviously if I make a really funny Barack Obama joke

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Speaker 4: that I made, Like, that's a that's a crazy world, bro.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, Like Pablo had Troy Aikman on the show

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Speaker 4: and he asked him, He's like, have you heard about this?

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Speaker 4: And I was surprised, but Troy Aikman said he was

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Speaker 3: And it was yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was the drawn out yeah, like like yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I heard way too fucking much, Like you could tell, like, yeah, bro,

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Speaker 1: the group chat always clowns to me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, damn. He was at his wits end.

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Speaker 5: It sounded like, Bro, I'm glad we're at an era

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Speaker 5: though where on national television people are acknowledging this kind

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Speaker 5: of stuff. People are acknowledging the gambling effects of late

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Speaker 5: game chaos. They're acknowledging memes and shit, like it was

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Speaker 5: so dumb when we were like watching TV these sports

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Speaker 5: for so long. These announcers were pretending like culture outside

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Future is now, old man is as

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Speaker 4: You know, I have kind of mixed feelings about some

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Speaker 3: This guy, I appreciate that for sure.

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Speaker 4: Like they could have been talking about as they were

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Speaker 4: showing that Chargers fan for the fifteenth time, they could

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Speaker 4: have been talking about how half of the internet thought that.

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Speaker 3: She was like, AI, you know.

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Speaker 4: What I mean, you just need And I've actually been

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Speaker 4: a I don't I don't know if I ever told

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Speaker 4: where you stand between the you stand between the play

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Speaker 4: that's just like check it, just checking Twitter.

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Speaker 3: They're talking about this online. We should tap into this.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, like Troy, there, this is who you

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Speaker 1: Holding up the jay Z being like or he used

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they weren't about clicks though.

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Speaker 2: I wonder who's the first person that told Troy aikmano, right,

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Speaker 2: Who's who's the person that broke?

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Speaker 4: Like I feel like I answer you that question is

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Speaker 3: Dad, They're saying you look like jay Z on Twitter

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Speaker 4: Just like like he didn't know the Taco Tuesday thing was,

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Speaker 4: Brouny being like everyone's doing.

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Speaker 3: The Taco Tuesday ship. Now he's like, oh, let me

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Speaker 3: patting that. That fucking guy. I can't believe he tried

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Speaker 3: to Taco bro.

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Speaker 1: But how long.

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Speaker 3: It's about Tuesday been in existence now.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, when you're like the goat of something,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have some irrational views. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: You're you're as good as you are something like I could,

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Speaker 2: I could brand Taco Tuesday. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm I ain't been at eating tickles on.

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Speaker 1: The literation was right there and no one ever picked

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I'm the best basketball player

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Speaker 4: The moment in Lebron's life that I want to hold

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Speaker 3: We literally went to Jack in the Box. I bought

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Speaker 5: Business advertising of tacos on Tuesdays has been around since

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Speaker 3: That was right, Taco Tuesday had already had already been around.

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Speaker 5: People have been saying, come get your tacos on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Like it's good. They say it's good.

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Speaker 2: My only experience with tacos like was probably Taco Bell

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be Sunday with our NBA preview?

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Speaker 4: The season starts next week? They go, we just decided

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Speaker 3: There were four open people on the court, you got open.

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Speaker 2: So basically the defense, so basically defense was like you

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Speaker 3: Crazy. It's it's it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like for the for the space and

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Speaker 4: It's it's like you said that you just dropping a

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Speaker 1: When the I just I just hope they spam that

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Speaker 2: Anybody calls on two K, like, what the fuck are

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Speaker 2: you doing? Butyl I got a question which jersey you wear?

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Speaker 2: You wearing Lebron jersey when the Leakers play the Buck

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Speaker 3: You gonna have both of them? Motherfuckers.

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Speaker 1: All man, I'm gonna get one of them. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: That might be hard, though hard that's kind of that's

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Speaker 4: It's like you're too you know, your your your best

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Speaker 1: I'm honestly find with however those games check out. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you playing for a championship one teams

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Celtics are much better. I think

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Speaker 2: I think the Celtis. I think the Celtics are better.

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Speaker 3: Away from them.

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Speaker 2: I respect that that's the way to approach sports, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm falling for a sixth consecutive year a d

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Speaker 3: All eighty two.

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Speaker 4: Games, and he's ready to be a leader and he's

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Speaker 2: up you know what I'm saying, your boy, you feel me? Yeah,

440
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 2: he's you know.

441
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 3: Having booth talking big ship behind Peyton Watson's name. I

442
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: love it. You feel me me a very happy human being.

443
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: And like I was talking to uh Briant Thomas Bryant,

444
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: uh who just got boomed on you know, famously, and

445
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: we talked about the last podcast. But anyway, anyway, we

446
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: talked so to him and he was like, you know

447
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: what play. I was like, what players in the league

448
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: like are like, yo, people do not know what time

449
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: it is? And he said, he said, he said Watson,

450
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: He said, Peyton Watson. He's like, Peyton Watson is good.

451
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: He was like, people talk about the defense and he's

452
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: liked that on defense. But he is a fucking bucket

453
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: and so that's him seeing him in practice get going crazy.

454
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 2: But you know, it doesn't not necessarily make sense for

455
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: him to be in the in the in the rotation

456
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 2: in the way he will be in the future.

457
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: But now with with with Bruce gone, can we get

458
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: Pee Watt on the pod? Okay, I'll tell you, Okay,

459
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 3: all right? Him up? Did you ask us that would

460
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: be fun?

461
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: What?

462
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 3: That's kind of last year?

463
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, it would have been kind of

464
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 4: weird to have him on the pod last year. Would

465
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 4: you not agree? It's like, he's a rook on a

466
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 4: team that's gonna win a championship.

467
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 3: But it's like, I don't think we would want to

468
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: have because like I don't know if that's gonna.

469
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, champion, a rotation player, yeah for sure,

470
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.

471
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: Okay. I hit him up when we were in Vegas.

472
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: I was like, are you in Vegas right now? And

473
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: he was like yeah. I was like, you want to

474
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: come on the pod today? And he was like, I

475
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 3: have plans tonight, Mike, Like what do you? You can't

476
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: ask me? Like I literally after my like five hours

477
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: notice also here to do something if you don't know

478
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 3: a business trip for me, Bro, you have to.

479
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 4: Remember it's like when you known someone since they were

480
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 4: like a kid, you have to miss Like I can't

481
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 4: text him like, oh, we're doing an extra photo shoot,

482
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, it's not that's

483
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 4: not what the world is like for professional athletes.

484
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: Also, the entire.

485
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: World, like the basketball world is in Vegas during that

486
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: time period. Like you know what I'm saying, they're they're sure,

487
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 2: they're fucking They're probably broken down by thirty minutes where

488
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 2: they need to be at, you know what I mean.

489
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 4: Adam Silver floating the return of the East West format

490
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Speaker 4: for the All Star Game.

491
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Speaker 3: Agree, disagree? I don't know.

492
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Speaker 1: I kind of like I like the messiness of like

493
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: the last person getting picked and shit, you know, and

494
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: I like the the the covert tampering, you know what

495
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean with with seeing who guys picked. I don't know, man,

496
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Like y'all know me, I'm a messy bitch.

497
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: I like the drama. Bro, I don't know. I don't

498
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: think I want to go back, and I don't think

499
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: it was just drama.

500
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 2: I think it was fun, you know what I mean,

501
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: Like there was fun outside of just a game, because

502
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: the game it's not that has not been that fun.

503
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: And I don't know if East West will make the

504
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: game more fun.

505
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: But the part that led up to it was at

506
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: least enjoyable, you know, with the picking a team type shit. Also,

507
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: like we spoke to as well, the fact that we're

508
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: seeing one of the best All Star player be picked last.

509
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: Like you know, like.

510
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: A kid in elementary school who's you know, has zero

511
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 2: at likability can relate to an All Star player, one

512
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: of the top what twelve four players in the world

513
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: at that moment.

514
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: There's something, you know, intriguing about that.

515
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: I think that if you look at everything the NBA

516
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: has done this offseason, it's clear that the actually Colin

517
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: Kawerd talked about this a lot during the NBA season,

518
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: and I think he was correct. It's clear that the

519
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 4: red alarm light was flashing at NBA headquarters. It was like,

520
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: we need to start signaling to people that this shit

521
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 4: matters and that our players care about it. Like we

522
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 4: know that the playoffs is good, but we got to

523
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: try this midseason tournament. I mean, the fact that they

524
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 4: came out with basically like a press rollout for the

525
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: fact that the analytics around rest was incorrect and they're

526
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 4: gonna say never mind, everyone's gonna play and take the

527
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 4: shit seriously again, like you could just see you can

528
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: see what they're trying to fix. I don't think that

529
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: this is that fix for the All Star Game, like

530
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: you said, John, But if they need to change something

531
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Speaker 4: in order to say, hey, these guys are gonna play

532
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: defense a little bit or something, I guess that's what.

533
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: That's not gonna change the fact that yeah, yeah, yeah,

534
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 3: just change.

535
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to change the brand, but I think

536
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,239
Speaker 2: the actual product won't be different, you know what I mean.

537
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 4: I agree, I totally agree with you, but I don't

538
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: disagree with them that they do need to change the brand.

539
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I mean, like I

540
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: that was abysmal.

541
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm seeing people that don't even aren't really basketball

542
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: fan fan fans are like this fucking sucks, you know

543
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: what I mean?

544
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: Like, well, You're All Star Game executively bad.

545
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be your front porch, right, it's supposed

546
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 4: to be your casual fans. It's supposed to be your

547
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: mid season crossover moment. And when you get your crossover moment.

548
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 4: But what you have is a bunch of people saying,

549
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 4: this is why I don't fucking watch this right right right,

550
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: that's the exact Like that's got to tell you, Oh,

551
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: we got to figure this out because we're getting the

552
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 4: media moment we want.

553
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: But it's so that people can confirm their negative bias against.

554
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: Us turning off the one NBA game they watched that year,

555
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: which is All Star Game. Let's go watch Seinfeld reruns again.

556
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, that's not that's not

557
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: necessarily good for the league.

558
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 5: I supposed Yeah, and you know what they said, when

559
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 5: you're trying to put out your metaphorical front porch to

560
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 5: the casuals, the best place to do it Indianapolis.

561
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, home of subway, home of the meat balls sub.

562
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: That Nigga sent me the subway. I'm like, he sent

563
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: you the subway. She sent me the subway.

564
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: Man.

565
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 3: She might have been right.

566
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: Bro, we was downtown too, but it was what but

567
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: it was walkable? Hell yeah, man, you walked to and

568
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: people didn't have to take uber. No, I didn't have

569
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: to take the Uber. I had a car though, Bro,

570
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: I was it was in a rental.

571
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: You feel me? And because I was working. The cookies

572
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 3: are Finn was it three for a dollar? The subway?

573
00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: Those white macadam crazy two Macadamiens and a tip cookie.

574
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: That's the that's to go to, you know what I mean,

575
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: just to switch it up. Gotta eat the Macadamian charlote

576
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 2: chip and the Macadamien, you know what I mean.

577
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: All Right, we got, we got.

578
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: We got two more segments before we wrap, and one

579
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: of them is John. I know, I know, I apologize

580
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 4: John because I know you don't give a fuck about

581
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: this Spider Man video game.

582
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, by all means, do your thing. I

583
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: love y'all having fun and being happy. That's all. So

584
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: let me let me sit back and watch that. Give

585
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 3: us our moment. We'll circle. I love just be here

586
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: and look cute and be happy. That's all I need

587
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: from y'all. Tyler.

588
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: Everyone is making this sound like it's the best superhero

589
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: game of all time. All the reviews are like, you know,

590
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: nine point nine point five out of ten is a

591
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 4: low review for this game. How unrealistically high are our

592
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: joint expectations for this video game to drop on thors?

593
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, I've got high expectations, but not anything ridiculous.

594
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: And it's not like I'm tempering my expectations. I just

595
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: know that it's going to be good, because all Spider

596
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: Man games are good, you know what I mean. But

597
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: for people saying exactly exactly, but for people saying like

598
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: this is gonna be like the best Spider Man game ever.

599
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: In the clips, I'm saying, did you see that clip

600
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: when saying man through that motherfucker like thirty blocks, he.

601
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: Threw it through two burros?

602
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Yes?

603
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: Bro, Oh that's what That's what I want. Give me

604
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: super villains who are gonna beat my ass. Man like.

605
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: I don't want this shit to be easy, bro, I

606
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: want to be like only fuck.

607
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: I want to be scared as shit when a motherfucker

608
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: pops up and makes his interest and yes, throw my

609
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: ass thirty fucking blocks, throw me from the.

610
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: Bronx the Queens. That's exactly what I want, beating the

611
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: fuck out of me.

612
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: Man. There is like a special thing and a good

613
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: superhero video game. And I don't really play a lot.

614
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: Of video games.

615
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: It's just sports and superhero video games basically, but it's

616
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: especially thing like the Batman Arkham games had the same

617
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: thing where when it transitions from the cut scene to

618
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: you playing the super villain, I should feel a little

619
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: bit like I'm gonna shiit my pants, you know, Like

620
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: I remember Batman had that the Arkham City game. It's like, oh,

621
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: you want me to actually fight Clayface like with the joystick,

622
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: Like this motherfucker could just turn into a like a knife.

623
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: Look, bro, look if the first appearance of the super

624
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: villain doesn't have me scrambling and running around and picking

625
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: up shit to throw and running like a little bitch.

626
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 3: Like you can kick the bitch, bro, that's what I need.

627
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: That's what makes me feel alive when I'm playing video

628
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: games running like a bitch.

629
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: Who's the super villain?

630
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: I mean, who's the like the person in any game

631
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: that you were like, holy shit, I gotta fight this motherfucker.

632
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: I know.

633
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: The biggest holy shit moment for me was when them

634
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: got damn zombie dogs purst through the windows and resonate.

635
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: That was crazy. That was crazy, I think everyone.

636
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Shane Sung had me shook two though and

637
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: come with switch to everybody and this nigga, you know

638
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like crazy.

639
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: The craziest thing to me about the Spider Man game

640
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: is they said they may. They say Craven the Hunter

641
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: as cool as fuck in the game. Yeah, they say

642
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: he's a bad motherfucker. They said that he the character

643
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: might be so good that Sony might have to figure

644
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: out something different to.

645
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: Do with the movie.

646
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: Really, it's like yeah, because it's like they got him

647
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 4: like just playing with knives and being like a like

648
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: basically he's like a like he's like a Stark from

649
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: Game of Thrones. Like he's just about like wolves and

650
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: dogs and fucking his knife and ship, you know what

651
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: I mean?

652
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, bro, that that arc he had

653
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: with with the Black Spider Man in the eighties, like

654
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: that is last night. Yes, yes, incredible. That's the darkest

655
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: ship ever. I read that.

656
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: I read that too early, bro, Yeah that was a yeah,

657
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Speaker 4: this ship was crazy, bro. All right, Spider Man's coming

658
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: out on Thursday. You were not gonna see me and

659
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: Tyler on the internet for a couple of days.

660
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna be on there running like a bitch,

661
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: running for our lives. All right. Before we get out.

662
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Speaker 4: Of here, we have a new segment debuting today. We're

663
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: gonna do it on the midweek episodes and we're we're

664
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: not so tentatively, we're just stamping it as Hippiitie.

665
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: Hop with Dragonfly Jones.

666
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 4: But I'm excited for this segment because I know we

667
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: hear from a lot of people that miss John's music recommendations.

668
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: I know all three of us love talking about music

669
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: with each other. We talk about it a lot in

670
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: the group chat. So I'm excited to have a place

671
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: every week where we can kind of, you know, put

672
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: all that, put all of that into something that we

673
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: just plan on doing every week. But Tyler, you've got

674
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: a historical take for the first Hippity Hop with Dragonflies.

675
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: Fuck yeah yeah.

676
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: So so yeah, We're gonna do a little recurring segment

677
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: here this week in Hippitie Hop where you know, sometimes

678
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about, you know, something historic that happened

679
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: this week. Sometimes we might talk about current event shit

680
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: that's happening this week in rap, or you know, a

681
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: new song to the album that draw.

682
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: We're just gonna have fun and talk music and rap

683
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: with this shit.

684
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: So in this week in Hippiity Hop twenty five years ago,

685
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: God damn, I feel old just saying that. This week

686
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: old as fuck. On October seventeenth, nineteen ninety eight, Juvenile

687
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: released Ho. It was the lead single off his break

688
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: out album four hundred Degrees Now. Although this is Juvenile's

689
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: introduction to most rap fans, four hundred Degrees is actually

690
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Juvenile's third album, following his debut Being Myself in nineteen

691
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: ninety five, in his sophomore effort Soldier Rags in nineteen

692
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: ninety seven. The single Hi, however, was the lead single

693
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: for four hundred Degrees, which was Juvenile's major label debut

694
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: after Cash Money Records signed an unprecedented distribution deal with

695
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: Universal for thirty million dollars, an absurd amount of money

696
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight and an absurd amount of money today.

697
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: Cash Money Records, which was already an extremely successful independent

698
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: label with underground classics like Juvenile, Soldier Rags, Big Timers,

699
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: How You Love at BG It's All On You and

700
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: the Hot Boys Get It, How You Live already under

701
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: their belt before signing with Universal Now had the powerhouse

702
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: conglomerate of Universal back and then on distribution, which proved

703
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: to be a game changer. So quick music industry lesson

704
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: on how big of a deal distribution is, especially in

705
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: the nineties, distribution labels do just that. They distributed music.

706
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: They don't do any of the legwork record labels do.

707
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: They do not have a say on the final version

708
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: of the album or who the record labels sign. They

709
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: do not pay feature artists, fees or any of that.

710
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: You hand your distributor the final cut of your album

711
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: and they take it from there. Pushing you to radio,

712
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: MTVBT and pressing up physical copies of your music and

713
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: securing deals with retailers to sell your shit a huge

714
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: deal for independent labels, who often literally started selling their

715
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: music out of their trunks of their car in the nineties.

716
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: So this distribution deal with Universal meant cash money albums

717
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: could be easily purchased at your local retailer wherever you're

718
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: at in the country, which was not the case before

719
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: the deal. Another quick music industry, lesson Priority Records, pretty

720
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: much had a monopoly on distributing all the iconic independent

721
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: rap labels of the nineties Ruthless, Raucus, Rap, a Lot,

722
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Death Row, Rockefeller, No Limit, all distributed by Priority, which

723
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: was not a major label and went in to Funk

724
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: the two thousand and four. The rap landscape is not

725
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: the same without Priority. Long lived Priority, but back to

726
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Cash Money. So now this once local independent rap label,

727
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Cash Money now has a global army behind it with

728
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Universal or betty Ed and Navy as Big Wants so

729
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: eloquently stayed, and their first at that with this new

730
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: backing that they now have was a home run. Juvenile

731
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: and producer Manny Fresh, who handled all of Cash Money's production,

732
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: knocked that shit out the park. Hi is a singular record,

733
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: the likes of which we had never heard before or since.

734
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Manny Fresh's distinct of New Orleans bounce is still very

735
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: much present on this record, but it has a very

736
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: unorthodox sound. Juvenile weeds in and out of the beautiful

737
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: chaos that is this beat effortlessly and a track where

738
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: he's repeatedly asking the listener questions he seemingly already knows

739
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: the answer to, and the answer to all of the

740
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: questions Juv poses on this track is you Fucked Up.

741
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: It's an unorthodox beat that was perfect and even more

742
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: perfect for Juvenile, and perhaps even only juvenile, as we've

743
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: seen a very prominent rapper try his hand at that

744
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: beat called coff jay Z and stumbled terribly. Rappers have

745
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: notoriously never have steered clear of that beat on their

746
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: own freestyles. I don't think I've ever heard of high freestyle.

747
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: It is a singular record. Then this Many Fresh production

748
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 1: was perfect for juvenile and juveniles perhaps the only rapper

749
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: in history who could ever do it justice. It's an

750
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: alley you that Many Fresh threw that only juvenile could

751
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: catch and it changed the rap game forever. So yeah,

752
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: I think High is one of those handful of rap

753
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: songs where it's when the first time you heard it

754
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: was a fucking record scratch moment, like what the fuck

755
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: am I listening to? Like in the best way right,

756
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: Like I heard that and I was like, bro, what

757
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: is this? And where can I get more of that?

758
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Like it was unlike anything you had ever heard, Like

759
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: do you remember the first time you heard that shit?

760
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 4: John?

761
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in the I was at the crib,

762
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: and I remember the next day at the bus stop

763
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: you feel me, all of us were talking about that

764
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: that song, you know what I'm saying, Like in Alabama,

765
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: Like he was like, Yo.

766
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: Did you hear that shit? We was like what it was?

767
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: It was also like the visuals of the video, like

768
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 2: you talked about you said the group that you thought

769
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: the best video ever. I think it's yeah, yeah, I

770
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: mean yeah, I don't know that best video ever, but

771
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a great fucking video. And it was

772
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: like it showed the like like the things he was

773
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: talking about, and like the way he grew up and

774
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: the way that was extremely artful but also very fucking raw,

775
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like it was beauty beautiful

776
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: and also like scary at the same time, like god damn,

777
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

778
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 3: And the way he was rapping. We had never heard

779
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: anybody rap like that before.

780
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: I never heard a beat like that before, but it

781
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: was like captivating in every fucking way. And so like

782
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: we all saw it on Rap City and then we

783
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: all talked about it the next day at the bus stop.

784
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: You feel me, cause it was.

785
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 4: Just that like.

786
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: Mind boggling for us to see something like, you know,

787
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: something of that nature, you know, for the first time,

788
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: you feel me. It's kind of like I know, like

789
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 2: I told you a bone. The first time I heard bone,

790
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: it was the coolest thing I ever heard to the end,

791
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: to that point, like how was the most hot thing

792
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: I've ever heard? You know, It was like that, like

793
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this I've never heard this before,

794
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: Like you said, we'll never hear it again anything like

795
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 2: it again.

796
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's pretty much how I felt, like, bro,

797
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: like I never heard no ship like that before, and

798
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: I wanted more. And the video for sure, Grammy, Like

799
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's it's it's my favorite rap video.

800
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: Ever, hood every video ever, not just because it's the

801
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: same as the same field though as hot though as

802
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: far as visually.

803
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

804
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's there's certain shots from that video that

805
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: are just seared in my memory forever, like that that

806
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: little ten year old boy like holding that pit bull

807
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: and feeding them that balloona.

808
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: Right right right right, right right right. So yeah, it was.

809
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: It was an incredible video where you know, it was raw,

810
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: but it didn't feel exploited, no, you know, and it

811
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: didn't feel honest and authentic.

812
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: He was in out, that motherfucker with some big shorts, song,

813
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: some shoulder shoulderies, and a fucking tank top, you know

814
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: what I mean, a big ass hat. He probably wore

815
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: that for the last five fucking years, you know what

816
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean, As far as like this is his this

817
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: is his uniform, you know what I mean, Sweating and

818
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: ship in the motherfucking music video.

819
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: It was not produced. That felt real as fuck, you.

820
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, right right, And one of my

821
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: favorite shots is when Julie is an all white in

822
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: the parking lot, got the whole projects beyond, you know,

823
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: and he's standing in like a puddle of water.

824
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, this is like hood.

825
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: Jesus, like this motherfucker's all white, you know, saying walking

826
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: on water like That's another shot that stuff.

827
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 3: With me too.

828
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: But the emergency Cash money Man that was that was

829
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: a pivotal moment in the rap landscape. That was the

830
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: moment that you know, for people like like Jackson, you know,

831
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: for I hate to, you know, kind of pick on

832
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: him as the young guy, but Jackson has lived his

833
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: whole life with the South being the prominent sound and rap,

834
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, and it was not always like that. We

835
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: grew up and you know, we we witnessed the South

836
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: fighting and uphill back right right, Like, the South was

837
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: not getting respected by you know, publications, by media.

838
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: Bolly outcast wasn't getting respected as do our fucking outcast,

839
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

840
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: Yes, And.

841
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: At the at the they got booed at the after

842
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: dropping Southern places like come on, man, but yeah, it's

843
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: cash money is the emergency cash money. You know. I

844
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: think that they solidified the South in terms of mainstream,

845
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: right because, like, like I said, there was plenty of

846
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: us who were rocking with the South and we're like

847
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: bro y'all shipping, you know what I'm saying. Like, but

848
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: but they and and they stood on the shoulders of

849
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: the labels that came before them, right, Like, I'm not

850
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: at all saying that they were the first record label,

851
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Southern record label to be out here booming. No, we

852
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: had swaps, advertized mine had. Yeah, we we had swap

853
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: fucking rap a lot out in Houston, right, So No Limit,

854
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: of course, No Limit is perhaps the label that Cash

855
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: Money owes so much of their success too, because yes, yes,

856
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: because you know, there's often the discussion about what jay

857
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: zb jay Z if Biggie was still alive, and you

858
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: know that's hypothetical, you know you can that however, but

859
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a very strong case to be made

860
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: that the biggest benefactor of you know, POC and Big

861
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: not being here anymore and rap just needing a guy,

862
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, to be that star wars master p Like

863
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: when POC and Big God, Like you can't under you

864
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: can't understate how big of a loss that was to

865
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: the rapper. Pac was the biggest rapper in the West Coast.

866
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Big was the biggest rapper in the East Coast. Bro

867
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: and we lost them and it was like, okay, what

868
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: the fuck do we do now? And master P kind

869
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: of emerged and and you know, subsequently the South had

870
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: their moment too with that, right, and once you know,

871
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: Universe and all these record labels, so okay, there's a

872
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: market here for South because master P was big. This

873
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: motherfuck was on TRL when rappers were not going there, dude,

874
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: and he was like a Southern gangster rapper, nothing pop

875
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: about him at all. Right, the Masterpiece Climb with No

876
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Limit is an unbelievable success story. And you know, Universe

877
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you know, cash Money's out here moving

878
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: units like they were sung like two hundred thousand independent,

879
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous with no distribution. So that's why they

880
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: broke them boys off thirty mil. And once you know,

881
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: cash Money came through and you know, like I said,

882
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: I do a little jab at jay Z because that

883
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: verse on how it.

884
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Was just it wasn't ja that was. Yeah, it wasn't

885
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't it. It wasn't it.

886
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: But I want to give jay Z his his credit

887
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: here because jay Z rap was so regional late late nineties, right,

888
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: and jay Z was one of the rappers who extended

889
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: his hands to the South, like he hopped on you know,

890
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: No Limit, I got the hook up soundtracks and shit

891
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: like you know, he hopped on Juveniles High. You know,

892
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: he big pimping was a huge moment and legitimize in

893
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: the South as well, right, So I want to give

894
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: him his props there. But it's like, you know, Universes

895
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: saw that. Okay, there's a market here for the South.

896
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: You know, these guys are moving records locally. No Limit

897
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: is a nationwide, global phenomenon. So let's drop these this

898
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: thirty million deal, which is fucking aubsurd Like Michael Jordan

899
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: was making thirty million to ninety eight, bro, Like you

900
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that's an absurd amount of money,

901
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: and that's what opened up like cash money likely legitimize

902
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: the South on the mainstream level. And it all circles

903
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: back to you know, Juvenile's debut single f four hundred

904
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: degrees High.

905
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if there's no High. There's no like, we

906
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: don't know cash money in the same way, and there's

907
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: no Wayne. And Wayne's the one that stamped Drake, you

908
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, so like, you know, like

909
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: but the fact that Wayne was part of cash money

910
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: that stamped him. But there's no cash money without High,

911
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So yeah, bro, like it's

912
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: the biggest rappers in the game, like can come you

913
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: know from that? You know that that one singular moment

914
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: you feel me so like we were even talking about

915
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: what's Nicki Minaj Like Nicki Minaje got to stamp from

916
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: Wayne too without you know what I mean? Like, so yeah, man,

917
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: like I didn't even trip off that now, So I

918
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: didn't trip off the fact that we fucked with the

919
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: South prior and we fucked with Atlanta music too, but

920
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 2: nobody was fucking with Atlanta, you know what I'm saying

921
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: When I mean, well, we were fucking with Atlanta, but

922
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: like the East Coast still was like we the mecha

923
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: all that shit, right, But when New Orleans, you know,

924
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: the cash money popped off and they became you know,

925
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: like in New Orleans became like pop it to the masses.

926
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: You know, that's when Atlanta had the space to kind

927
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: of take over the music business. And now you can't

928
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: do shit without Atlanta, you feel me. But like with Tech,

929
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: with with with big you know, music movements in Texas

930
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: and Atlanta going on, it still didn't reach the masses

931
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: the way cash money did, which created the space for

932
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: them to to to to grow, you know what I'm saying,

933
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: in Atlanta to be what it is now. So yeah, bro,

934
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know what music looks like without that,

935
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: without the you know, the soule taking over, but without huh,

936
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, becoming what it was and

937
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: being so you know yeah, yeah, so yeah.

938
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: That's it's the same. But I didn't reach up.

939
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: What's why we look at Wayne is like, bro, Like

940
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: Wayne was the little nigga, you know what I mean,

941
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: He was a homie, Like we'll see what happened fifteen

942
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: you throw them on features.

943
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: Like his first album wasn't.

944
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: Even all you know, he was all right, you feel me,

945
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: Like he didn't become himself until like for me, like

946
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: squad Up was just like he was doing.

947
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: I like the Squad Up albums more than his you know,

948
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: regular he didn't really do his thing until like, hey, DJ,

949
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: that that the carter like there was.

950
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: Was a second Okay, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, well, okay,

951
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: that's a moment, but it took a while to get there.

952
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: Juvenile was a cash cow for a while, you know

953
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And so yeah, but yeah, but it's

954
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: it's it's interesting to see I didn't really think about that.

955
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: I think of Atlanta being so prominent in my life

956
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: for a while, but I didn't think about damn the

957
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: points you brought up about, you know, them creating that

958
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: space in the South to create getting that respect in

959
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: the South that Atlanta and Texas hadn't gotten from the masses.

960
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: And then Atlanta blowing up after they already created that space,

961
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, carved that that laying out

962
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: in the master.

963
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: So that's interesting. Yeah.

964
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: And the thing was, you know, of course you know

965
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing now, but they were not a flash in

966
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: the pant right, like like this was ninety eight where

967
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: you went in and you bought albums blindly, You liked

968
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: one song, and you spent your fifteen bucks hoping you

969
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: would like the second.

970
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: Little flip stole from me man, and but four hundred

971
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: degrees over over delivered.

972
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: It blew all the expectations I had out. It is

973
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: a classic album. I think it's I think it's like

974
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: a Mount Rushmore Southern album and it was.

975
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: Fun.

976
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: Fact is that it was the highest selling cash Money

977
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: album until Drake went with Views in twenty sixteen. From

978
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, like Lil Wayne's Run, Nikki's Run, a

979
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Drake's Run, some of Drake's Run, and this was still

980
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: the crown jewel of that label.

981
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: Bro, you get it, you get you pull up to

982
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: the spot after the I know we got to you

983
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, But you pull up to the spot,

984
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and everybody was playing that shit.

985
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: Gee, you feel me. This is like we didn't have

986
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: like you know, like you could just put it on

987
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: your phone. Niggas went out and bought the album.

988
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Everybody had the album and was playing it when you

989
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: going out at night, you know what I'm saying, or

990
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: in the summer when you ride on the windows down,

991
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: we all heard that shit.

992
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, bro, it was it was a it was

993
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: a moment for sure, all right, that's all the time

994
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: we got for today.

995
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: We'll be back on Saturday with a very special interview

996
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 4: and then our next live show on AMP on Sunday,

997
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: We'll talked to you all then bye bye bye.

998
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm