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Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only

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Speaker 1: the Truth lives here twelve Apostles Postles. I'm George Rice Stir,

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Speaker 1: He's Ralph Gampton. This is the Packs Will Astles podcast,

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Speaker 1: bi Packed Wolf Fans, four Packed twelve fans, a college

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Speaker 1: it's a disaster for the conference, and I'm like, actually,

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Speaker 1: not a disaster for the conference was last year. This year,

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Speaker 1: They didn't throw a touchdown pass on Utah. They got

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Speaker 1: three hundred yards, was efficient with the football. Jack Zack

430
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: Charbonna looked really good. Yeah, I didn't. I got took

431
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: this as a as a game that they should have won,

432
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: and they did. Obviously it was an ugly start. But

433
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: they got to get this special teams fixed. Yeah, they do.

434
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,239
Speaker 1: They do need to work on special teams. It was.

435
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they looked bad in every facet in the

436
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: first quarter, but then they made adjustments as the game

437
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: went on and they dominated. They went on a thirty

438
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: eight to seven run. Honestly, outside of that long Dorian

439
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson run in the first quarter, U c l

440
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: U c l A looked like putrid, but it wasn't.

441
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you were watching them and saying, don't

442
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: have the talent to compete. It just took him a

443
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: minute to get get it figured out, which is which

444
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: is understandable, Which is why you don't schedule a Florida

445
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: or Georgia to to to uh the first game of

446
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: the season. Dude, give me a warm up please, Yeah,

447
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: because because some of these teams you schedule against you

448
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: can't afford that quarter and a lot of Pack twelve

449
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: teams they need it, and so U c l A

450
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: needed it. They figured out they looked exactly the way

451
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: that you thought, um they should look. Zack Sherman A uh,

452
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Zack Sherman is gonna have a big year. Um. And

453
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: I just I wasn't impressed with the way they responded.

454
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: But then again, what really home game wasn't that was

455
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: the lowest lowest ticket sales in the history of a

456
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: u c L A game. Yeah, but didn't show up.

457
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: There's no way. It had to be closer to like

458
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: actually in the stadium. And people are like, there's no

459
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: excuse to only have twenty seven thousand people for attendance

460
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: numbers to be twenty seven thousand. But bro, it was

461
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: hottest balls out here in California. Bro, like it was. Yeah, yeah,

462
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: had this been a night game, the attendance would have

463
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: been significantly better. And you know, attendance could be down

464
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: a little bit because you're playing bowling Green too. But

465
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: if they you know, they showed up for L s

466
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: U last year. People still have excitement about this team.

467
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: The first attendance is going to be tough on their

468
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: first three games because they don't play anybody and everybody

469
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: knows it's gonna be a blowout. So you're gonna get

470
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to get people out to the

471
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: Rolls Bowl in the enormously hot sun again this weekend.

472
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: Uh for that. So but yeah, I get it, And yeah, no, no,

473
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to say, like it would

474
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: be like it was a hundred and thirty five degrees

475
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Like, that's the level of heat in September,

476
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: like two years in a row now in California. Super

477
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: concerning and and it might it might behoof some of

478
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: these California teams if these if these September heat waves

479
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: continue to maybe open up on the road. Yes, and

480
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: at and at night and at night, definitely at night.

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00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: Um alright, next game up, Arizona thirty eight, San Diego

482
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: State twenty oh, Ralph, while I'm introing this breakout our

483
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: wind totals, Buddy, I feel real good. Um Now, Arizona

484
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: thirty eight, San Diego State twenty. Now. As soon as

485
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: I knew Braxton Burnmuster was starting in this game. I

486
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: know we're not supposed to talk bad about kids, but

487
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: like I was, like, I got a message from a

488
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: San Diego State parent that was like, come on, guys,

489
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: what No. I got a message from a STSU parent

490
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: that was like, let up, press listen. I have nothing

491
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: bad about the kid personally. I think he's it. I

492
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: think he overcomes adversity. He's just not you know, a

493
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: like if he's your starting quarterback, you need a new quarterback.

494
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: If that defense did not let Arizona jump out on them.

495
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: The way that he run that offense and the way

496
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: that he runs the ball, people don't give him credit

497
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: as a runner. He's a runner, yes, the way that

498
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: he runs the ball, they would have been okay. But

499
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: he's not a play from behind not He's not that guy.

500
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: Pal no, no no. And Jaden Delora is who we

501
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: thought he was, is who he thought he was to

502
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: four touchdowns. He did throw a pick, but listen, uh,

503
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: your boy Cowing, Jacob Cowing. He was really good. Eight

504
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: catches for one fifty two and three touchdowns. We know

505
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: who their number one? Why why receiver is their freshman

506
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: McMillan t mac three three in a touchdown. I don't

507
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: know if you saw it. He had a catch that

508
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: didn't count. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm still upset. Okay, I'm

509
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: still upset. He was committed to Oregon and the coaching

510
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: change made him flip. Hate it, hate it, but I'm

511
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: happy to see the kid doing well. Fox Sports Radio

512
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch

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515
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: R to listen live. Now. This is a good start

516
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: for Arizona, and we talked about this being a must

517
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: win for them to get enough momentum to get the

518
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: season started. They were able to run the ball well.

519
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: They ran for almost three hundred yards and r forwoo

520
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no no, I'm sorry that was the white

521
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers. They ran for a hundred and sixty two

522
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. So they ran the ball well

523
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: average four point two yards to carry. Yeah, you could

524
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: not have asked for a better start for Arizona. And

525
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be the overreact guy, but we could

526
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: be looking at like a five win team. I think

527
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: that's more than I think. You and I both had

528
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: him at four and eight, and it might be time

529
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: to rethink that. But um again, they're they're gonna have

530
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: some Yeah, but Jaden, Jaden, you know to be Uh

531
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: was he packed twelve Offensive Player of the Year last

532
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: year and then no it was he won some award

533
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: who was fresh Yeah, a freshman in the way that

534
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons won Rookie the Year, right, Uh yeah, so, um,

535
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: but the idea that like all of a sudden, he

536
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: drops to like fifth or six in the conference. As

537
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: far as quarterback, Rand games because some quarterbacks transferred in

538
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I I don't think that's fair in him, and I mean,

539
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: you you know more about him than I do. But

540
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: if he keeps his head on straight, he is going

541
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: to have a hell of a year. Um. But there

542
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: are a lot like Arizona State in that like after

543
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: that front, after that front line, Like if Jaden Dolora

544
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: has to miss a game for whatever reason, listen, it

545
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: is Noah defeated time then buddy yeah, and ord Jeor

546
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: McCloud looked okay, and as they moved on. But I

547
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: think that they've got some continuity with the coaching staff.

548
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: They got buy in. It's all good vibes down there. Um.

549
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: And there was some crazy graphic on the broadcast that said, uh,

550
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: this is like Arizona's second win in like a thousand days.

551
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, this was Arizona's first win, Like, yeah,

552
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: that cow win last year. I told you, you said, like, yes,

553
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna count it. I was like, listen, there are

554
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: no moral victories. That might be literally the first moral

555
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: literal victory because it shouldn't really have counted. A game

556
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: shouldn't have happened. Uh, And they got the win. But like,

557
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: this is an actual win and this sets them up

558
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: for UH. They still got a couple of rough games

559
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: UH in nonconference, but this sets them up to UH

560
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: and and everybody that packed out. Nobody can take them

561
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: lightly and that's important. Yep, Oregon Georgia. So we will

562
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: speed up on the recap so we can get to

563
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: the preview this week. I don't have anything to say

564
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: about this game. I don't have anything. I don't have

565
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: a single thing to say about this game. It was

566
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: it was an ass whooping and it felt the whole

567
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: game from start to finish like Oregon was playing with

568
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: nine players on the field. Yeah, well, there there is

569
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: literally nothing to like, there's nothing to even assess about

570
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: this team. I think that you will know about who

571
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: Oregon is over the next two weeks against Eastern Washington

572
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: and UH against b y U. Because they didn't even

573
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: get off the bus against Georgia, Like, they didn't even

574
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: get up. Georgia rolled out their helmets him one. Two questions. One,

575
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: do you have a problem with what Kirby Smart said

576
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: after the game, which was like the Dan Lanning will

577
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: get it figured out and he would never say this,

578
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: but we have better players mm hmm. What can you

579
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: say to that bro? Like, like, what can you they

580
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: just kicked your teeth in? What else can you say there?

581
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: There's no rebutting that. Is that a supportive statement? Is

582
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: it a bad handed compliment? Is it a flat out insult?

583
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: Is it gassing your own players up? Like? What the

584
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: hell that? I don't know if I've ever heard is

585
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: gassing your own players up? Number number one? Number two?

586
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: It is giving Dan Lanning credit because he's like, yo,

587
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: he will get it figured out. And yeah, so I

588
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: thought it was those two things that he was gassing

589
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: his own players players up, but also maybe he gave

590
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Dan Landing a solid like by kind of ribbing his

591
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: players the way they maybe would be insulted by it

592
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: and be like, oh really y'all have better, better players?

593
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: All right, okay, cool, cool, all right, will show We'll

594
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: show y'all. Like I think, as a coach, if you

595
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: like the other guy that sometimes you do stuff like that,

596
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: as like I'm gonna give his team something that something

597
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: to think about. Yeah, question number two, and it's in

598
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: the Dabbo swiney vain, because I think Dabbo is someone

599
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: that you and I both respect. Right if you. You

600
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: can't not respect what however however you want to, you

601
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: want to reach through the TV screen and slap him

602
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: sometimes because the world is moving in a direction that

603
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: him putting his spurs into the ground is not going

604
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: to slow down. Correct, correct, Okay, So that being said,

605
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: I think Dabo Swinney is great. I think his values

606
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: are great. I even agree with a lot of what

607
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: he said, but the world just doesn't work that way.

608
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: That is how I feel about the level of dedication

609
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: that Oregon has towards playing bo Nicks all the way

610
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: through that blowout, start to finish and then saying he's

611
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: our guy moving into week two. What do you think

612
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: about that? I think it's a level of stubborn that

613
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: is honorable but might be folly m M. I think

614
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: that it is. I don't disagree with what he did.

615
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: Not putting thy Thompson in the game was out of

616
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: out of a hand. All you do is potentially cause

617
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: you cause yourself more drama there. Now, if bo Nick

618
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: struggles in the first half of Eastern Washington, he's coming

619
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: out mm hmm, like or struggles in the first half

620
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: of the B y U game, He's coming out. But

621
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: I would imagine thy Thompson will play in the Eastern

622
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Washington game either way, either Oregon blowing blowing them out

623
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: or bone Nick struggling. Either away, He's going to I

624
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: think he plays in in the game, and the future

625
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: will be determined by in the next three quarters. Yeah,

626
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: what you cannot afford to have happened is to have

627
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: bone Nicks be the second best quarterback on the field

628
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: in three straight out of conference games. Oh god, Eastern

629
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: Washington's gunner Talkington yards five touchdowns against Tennessee State in

630
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: week one. Yeah. Yeah, because they are a spread them out,

631
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: throw it all over the place kind of kind of team.

632
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: So that's actually good. Oregon's defense, they need to get

633
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: stressed in a different way. They have to tack away

634
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: better because they were turning tackles down. But alas uh,

635
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: we will find out more about them this week. Alright,

636
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: cal versus you see as thirteen, they were obviously supposed

637
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: to win this game. Jack Plummer had a good game,

638
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, twenty three for thirty five three touchdowns. They

639
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: ran the ball okay, you know, for a hundred forty

640
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: seven yards, but they also gave up a d forty

641
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: five yards rushing. But sixty of it was on one

642
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: one play, so listen there there's not a lot to

643
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: be gained about playing you see Davis. But they only

644
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: scored thirty four points, which does alarm me. Just to

645
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: tap it. The first quarter was um The first quarter

646
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: was like genuinely like at some point I was like

647
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: these players met before today, yes, and then and then

648
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: like Jack Plummer made a couple of throws that it

649
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh that you have my attention, you have

650
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: my you have my interests, but now you have my attention.

651
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: And from from that point on, they were exactly who

652
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: cow is like they uh, there was some some methodical

653
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: working of the ball downfield. They were able to grind

654
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: out some yards and multiple running backs and they went

655
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: on a thirty four to six run to close the

656
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 1: game out in the final three quarters. And I would

657
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: say that it kind of resembled what happened with um

658
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: U c l A. But it didn't. But it wasn't

659
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: like U c l A was like you're trying to

660
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: start a ferrari and it didn't turn over the first

661
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: few times, and then the fourth time, all of a sudden,

662
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: you're going ninety five seconds later. Right, This was just like,

663
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: all right, we have a bunch of players that need

664
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: to fit into cow football, the culture of cow football

665
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: everything coal football is. And it just took them a

666
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: quarter to be like, oh, this is the formula, and

667
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: it looked it just looked very very much um less

668
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: less like Chase garbers E, where like Chase would try

669
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: to like force something with his legs to get the

670
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: team going, and more, Uh, this is it Bill Musgrave's right,

671
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: the uh the o c Yes, yeah, this is like

672
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: his like Bill Musgrave's wet dream at the fourth quarter

673
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: went in this game and uh yeah, and I just

674
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: so and also shout out Tommy Kristacos. They got a

675
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: big six ft four white wide receiver on the outside

676
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: and he's a jump ball guy. I'm really excited to

677
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: see what he does this yere ye all right? Uh,

678
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: USC sixties six Rice four team. People are like, oh

679
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: my god, USC's backed this offense. Bro slowdown. They had

680
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: three pick sixes in the game against Rice. Oh their

681
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: defense is gonna brow. Their playing Rice Rice is terrible.

682
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: They threw four picks, including three picks sixes, and yes,

683
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: sixty six or fourteen is a good day. They ran

684
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: the ball for two d and eight yards. But just

685
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: like the game versus U. C. Davis, this game versus Rice,

686
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: it literally means nothing, Like you can't gain anything about

687
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: USC except for are they are a competent team that

688
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: can score score points and their dvs can catch you have,

689
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: So I don't think that we are going to know

690
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: anything about them. Do you ever have you ever worked

691
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: at a company where they like where you have like

692
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: a team bonding thing, like everybody goes and plays laser

693
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: tag or something like that, and like sometimes it's cool

694
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like, man, I got a lot of

695
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: work to do, I don't really want to be here,

696
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: and it takes a while to like. And then at

697
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: the end, you know you have fun because you're doing

698
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: a fun thing around people that you generally like. Um,

699
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: this is like what if you planned a team bonding

700
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: exercise and it changed everybody's life. That's what this reminded

701
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: me of, because like they just went out there, they

702
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: got to have fun together against a much inferior opponent

703
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: and get the monkey on their back of just a

704
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: really long time of their defense not making the type

705
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: of highlight plays that show you the level of athletes

706
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: they bring to USC. Right, So this game. I agree

707
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: with you. It means absolutely nothing in the long run.

708
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: But they went out there and they had a really

709
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: good time with it and that could fuel them in

710
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: the long run. The three defensive touchdowns were huge, and

711
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: they were making they were making other places like it

712
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: was athletes showing off their athleticism and that was missing

713
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: in the Clay Hilton era. I will say though day

714
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: because I'm you know, flipping back and forth between this

715
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: and some SEC and Big ten games. They look thin,

716
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: they look on both sides of the ball, so they

717
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: better be playing fast as hell because they just especially

718
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: that defensive line. It was like, oh, they got seven

719
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: linebackers out there. Yep, yep, alright, Utah Florida. We already

720
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: discussed that victory for Florida where we're impressed with Utah

721
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: stale even in the loss um Stanford last play, the

722
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: last play, though, I just want to get your thoughts

723
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: on that, like that was just a must by Cam

724
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: Rising and uncharacteristic mistake. He doesn't do stuff like that.

725
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't, So I am, you know, I'm surprised that

726
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: that that that happened when he was in that position.

727
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: I was like, they're guaranteed going going to win, guarantee.

728
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: But nope, nope they did not. Um now cold Gate

729
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Stanford cold Gate ten, Stanford forty one. Now I'm so

730
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: mad at you. Why because I asked you if Stanford

731
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: even scores forty in this game and you were like, yeah,

732
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: they'll do it by accident because the line was forty

733
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, and we both got it wrong.

734
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: And I did not want to go along with you,

735
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: and I'm mad that I let you talk me into it. Yeah.

736
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: I told you that they would on accident. But and

737
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: they scored forty one, but they didn't. Uh, they did

738
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: not cover in that game. So yeah, touchdown run on

739
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: the first play this season though, Yeah that's always good

740
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: weight eighty seven officially but okay, not gonna nope, but

741
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: but who is counting? So yeah, Stanford Stanford one. Tanner

742
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: McKee was efficient sort of. I mean it was twenty

743
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: seven three oh eight, two touchdowns and a pick. But yeah,

744
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: we will we will see because the rest of their

745
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: schedule is rough. Yes, all right, Uh, Idaho, Washington State, Uh,

746
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: if you're a Washington State fan, you should be terrified,

747
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: terrified after this game because you have to come back

748
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: you were down ten oh after the first tide it halftime,

749
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: then it was what was it? It was seventeen two,

750
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten in like, you couldn't pull away from them,

751
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: which is cam cam Ward was pretty good fifteen and

752
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. But I would be terrified if I were

753
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: Washington State fan, the fact that we could not pull

754
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: against away against the team that is no longer even

755
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: Division one. It was a lot of dinking and dunking.

756
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: It was um. It had me worried because they cam

757
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: Ward was running around a little bit trying to figure

758
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: out how to make a play, and then in the

759
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: end he ends up with five point four yards in

760
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: attempts because he settled down and just started hitting some

761
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: of his athletes on the outside and letting them go

762
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: to work. And so there was that part of it

763
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: was encouraging to me because sometimes you just gotta like,

764
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: if it's not working on that day, you don't at

765
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: your best stuff, right you you just gotta let everybody

766
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: else go to work. And I do appreciate the fact

767
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: that he didn't cost them the game and that when

768
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: it came time to uh, when it when it came

769
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: time to do what it took to win. He did.

770
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: And you also have to remind yourself that Idaho is

771
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: probably the best team that he has ever faced. Idaho

772
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: is probably the best team that cam Ward has ever

773
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: has ever faced. And and and we're saying, like, oh, it

774
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: might be the worst team that any packed twelve team

775
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: is playing this week, it's still better athletes, It's still

776
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: second tier West Coast athletes were still talking about players

777
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: who played at Jay Sarah and Modern Day and and

778
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Sawaro High School in Arizona. That's still the level of

779
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: player we're talking about. And so, you know, it was

780
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be a cake walk. I think we,

781
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: maybe me, especially UM, got sold a little bit too

782
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: much by um Jake Dicker talking about, you know, how

783
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: much he believed in cam Warden. I think we might

784
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: be able to see a little bit more of that

785
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: magic later in the season. But this was not This

786
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: was not that, And I think that it was sobering

787
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: and not concerning. I wouldn't put them in the like

788
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Washington State because I don't think you

789
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: or I think that they're going to be world beaters

790
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: this year anyway. Um, But it did, it did bring

791
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: us back down to earth a little bit with what

792
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: their expectations should be. Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, their

793
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: expectations should be completely different at this point in time,

794
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: should be completely completely different. That's on the video. Now,

795
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: this is probably actually like our real life height difference.

796
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you're like seven inches taller than me. Well,

797
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: now that's everybody who was listening on the podcast. George's

798
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: chair is now elevated. Uh in a way that will

799
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: keep him from having back seizures. Yeah, well, well I'm

800
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: actually standing up. I was like, hold on, let me

801
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: adjust the camera too. Oh well that's not great either.

802
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: But uh oh I got you. I got you. My

803
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: chair moves too. I can. I can play this game.

804
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: You can, you can play the height It just okay, cool,

805
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: we're good money now, all right. Um uh. Oregon State

806
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: played host to Boise State thirty four to seventeen. I

807
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: told you so, I told you the Beavers are. This

808
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: is an ass beating man. Yes, yes, like so much

809
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: so that Boise State took out their good quarterback. They

810
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: took out their starting quarterback m h and um and

811
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: um in bach Meyer. He was four for eight two picks.

812
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: They took him out now I firmly believe he will

813
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: be back starting this week because Green came in and

814
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: uh he was nineteam for hundred and sixty six yards

815
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, ran four a hundred and one yards

816
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: and a two touchdowns. He couldn't be any more different

817
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: than bach Mier, and he was. He was like flying

818
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: all over the place, and you really I appreciated the

819
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: effort that he was putting in to try to bring

820
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: them back, but it was also like it was like

821
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: like everything because you didn't want them to have to

822
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: bring black Lier into that game. He was seeing ghosts

823
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: and they took him out. Yeah, it was it was

824
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: the right anything from him. Yeah, yeah, I felt like

825
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: it was the right thing to do. Like again, like

826
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: a baseball metaphor, like sometimes just started just doesn't have

827
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: it right. Um, but oh my gosh, what did you

828
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: think about Chance Nolan? He looked like Jake Plumber. He

829
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: looked like Jake Plummer in what way? In the throwing

830
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: on the move, in they making exciting plays down the field. Um,

831
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: what did you think about both picks so well? I

832
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: mean it was not not every part of its perfect.

833
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: And if you remember Jake Plummer had the same amount

834
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: of interceptions of the pros as he did touchdown passes. Yeah, yeah,

835
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: nothing changes on my end, but it was just I said,

836
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: Jake Plummer, but there was just some stuff that he

837
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: did that it was like, Oh, they're not gonna have

838
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: to work around him. Yeah. Correct, he's clearly he's clearly

839
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: better than he was. So are you more of a

840
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: believer in this Oregon State team because they jumped out

841
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: twenty four nothing and then cruised and then cruised on home? No,

842
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm not, because it's like Boise State didn't have the

843
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: opportunity to even try to have a running game. Um,

844
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: not that the running games that good this or anyway,

845
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: but like they didn't even there's gonna be teams in

846
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: this conference that don't care if if Oregon State jumps

847
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: out to a early leaders. And also also, Oregon State

848
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: has had like one good road win in the last

849
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: five years, so we still have to deal with whether

850
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: or not they can play outside of Corvallis. And you

851
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: can make an argument that their road win last year

852
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: at USC was them just beating a dead horse that

853
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: was dead when they got there. Yes, So yeah, I

854
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: I would like to see them do something anything, on

855
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: the road before I decide that that um, that you

856
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: and I were both wrong about them. I think we

857
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: both have them go into a bowl. There's also a

858
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: lot of people saying that they're gonna flirt with ten wins,

859
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: and I just don't. Yeah. Fox Sports Radio has the

860
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of

861
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,200
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863
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: listen live. Oh Now, last game up in the pack

864
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: twelve Washington Kent State twenty Michael Pinnox you junior for

865
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: thirty nine three forty five four touchdowns. I thought that

866
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: I thought he would be good. And granted they are

867
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: playing Kent State, Kent Kent States terrible. But when you

868
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: play bad teams, you were supposed to make them look bad.

869
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: You are you are supposed to. They gave up thirteen

870
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: points in the first half, didn't give up any in

871
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: the third quarter. I don't think that this Washington defensive special,

872
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: but they can score points, which allows you them to

873
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: put pressure on teams. It's obviously a clear abandoning of

874
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: the way that UM Jimmy Lake was trying to run

875
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: that struggle offense. You know, run the damn football and

876
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: all of that list, and they're like, yeah, we're gonna

877
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: run it, but we're gonna throw that thing too, And

878
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: so Washington fans should be much more happy. They put

879
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: up five five yards of offense. They look competent, They

880
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: look competent, Like you can't just look at this team

881
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, that's a win, new new, new,

882
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: new new. I agree with you, and I would say

883
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: I think that they may be that they maybe can

884
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: beat Michigan State next weekend. It's possible. It's possible. They

885
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: just got to be respectable, like no explosive plays um

886
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: in the run game for for Michigan State, and I

887
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: think that will keep him in it. Michael Panics is

888
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: no stranger to to big game atmospheres, and I think

889
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: you'll probably be okay. Um. But I here, here's how

890
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: I feel about what Washington did. I think everybody was

891
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: so enamored with how different, radically different Arizona looked that

892
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: it kind of took all of the oxygen out of

893
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: the room. For the truth is, this was just as

894
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: impressive est couple of years. Yes, it was um and

895
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just Michael Panics, but it was the

896
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: fact that like their receivers actually had an opportunity to

897
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: make plays, and nobody on the team had more than

898
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: uh well no, uh, Roman Dunes they had seven catches,

899
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: but but everybody else he was spreading the ball around.

900
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 1: Jalen mcmillancott five balls, todsh Davis caught three, Jalen Pope

901
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: caught three. Giles Jackson got involved. Like the running backs

902
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: are catching passes out of the backfield. The ball was

903
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: spread around. It's like and you you can since consistently

904
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: point out that like this was even an issue for

905
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: Oregon last year. If you have receivers in high school

906
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: and receivers on your sideline seeing that not everybody's touching

907
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: the ball, they get real anti real quick. We even

908
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: saw the l s US best receiver almost quit on

909
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: the team at halftime because he, you know, he didn't

910
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: have any catches. So you have to find a way

911
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: to keep people involved. They did that. That's a huge

912
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: sign of of positive things to come for Washington. All right, Uh,

913
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: now onto this week. How did do it? You have

914
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: our wind totals prepared already against the spread? Yes, I

915
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: went six and six, you went four and eight? What? Yeah?

916
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: You went four and eight rough starts the season? How

917
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: the hell did I go four and eight? Bro? I

918
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: demand a recount, demand to recount. All right, I took TCU.

919
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: No you didn't. I didn't. No, oh, no way, are

920
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: you serious? You went hard on the pack twelve this

921
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: like this week. You also took an a U. So

922
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: you started out and two you were oh and two

923
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: before we even got Saturday. Damn okay, technically, So I

924
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: lost and then I lost the Oregon game. Obviously I lost.

925
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: I won the USC game one, do U c l

926
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: A game? Lost the Utah game, won the Arizona game.

927
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: Did I win the Cow game? No? No, that was

928
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: like twenty one and a half they one, I think.

929
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: Did I win the Stanford game? No, you talked to

930
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: me into losing the Stanford game. Thanks. And I lost

931
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: the Washington State game too, Yes, won the Oregon State game. Yeah?

932
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: And did I win the Kents Washington game? I don't

933
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: think so, damn damn? All right? Well, hey where I

934
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: want you? I got you right where I want? All right? Um? Alright, next, alright,

935
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: So for this weekend, first game up PAC twelve Network

936
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: Southern Utah against Utah. The line on this game appears

937
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: to be what I'm looking it up now. There's actually

938
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: know a lot of players on the Southern Utah team,

939
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: and I feel really bad for what's what's about to

940
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: happen to them? Bro, this is going to be well.

941
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: Their their quarterback did throw for three hundred sixty four

942
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns last week, so you know they

943
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: probably feel like you know, they may be able to

944
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: move the ball a little, keep it respectable, but they

945
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: are going to get their asses what bro, Yes they are.

946
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: So the line that I was able to find, um,

947
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: not a lot of people are making lines for this,

948
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: but one person did throw it out as fort five. EM.

949
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it. Give me

950
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: Southern Utah. Give me Southern Utah. Not obviously not to

951
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: win this damn game. But I see I'm losing by

952
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: like six touchdowns, not not not six touchdowns and a

953
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: field goal. That's a little excessive. Al Right, Well, Southern

954
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: Utah lost to another in state school last year sixty

955
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: two nothing and we were state, so I'm gonna go

956
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: ahead and take Utah. Wait, they all sixty two to

957
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: nothing to weaber State last year, but they only lost

958
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: by one to Montana and they only lost by eight

959
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: to Northern Colorado. So I could have been an anomaly,

960
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: but that it happened. Okay, fine, I'm still sticking with it.

961
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: Gotta gotta get with another Utah plus forty Colorado at

962
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: air Force. Oh my gosh. Okay, so Colorado. I think

963
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I had said on our last podcast that I thought

964
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: air Force beat Colorado. They did. Um that was a

965
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Uh and I think it was

966
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: in Boulder. Um. So the air Force versus Colorado spread

967
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: is currently air Force minus seventeen and a half. That

968
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: is so disrespectful, disrespectful. I just beat Northern Iowa forty

969
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: eight a seventeam. I just highly advised against taking a

970
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: Mountain West team minus seventeen and a half over a

971
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 1: pack twelve team. I just they only threw the ball

972
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: six times last week. They don't throw their air Force

973
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 1: you gotta understand. Although, but like air Force, air Force

974
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: is one of the best teams against the spread in

975
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: the country. I am taking air for nine and four.

976
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: I am taking air Force. Bro That lets you know

977
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: what I think about this Colorado. Well, actually, I wish

978
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: I wish I could heade it on who they're starting.

979
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: But either either way, it doesn't matter. I'm taking air Force.

980
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: The games at air Force too, even though they're both

981
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: in Colorado. Was just in Colorado Springs. Yeah, so I'm

982
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: still taking air Force. It's such a most underrated pain

983
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: in the asked place to play a football game is

984
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: at air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Um, but I can't,

985
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: I can't. This isn't. This line is insane. It's insane.

986
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't think Colorado is gonna win this game,

987
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: but the idea that they're gonna lose by three touchdowns

988
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: they were in the game against TCU last week. It

989
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: was their own offensive ineptitude that exactly it's gonna be

990
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: a repeat. Bro, I'm on the opposite side of you.

991
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, if air Force covers, they gotta go.

992
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: The Carl Dorelle experiment has to end immediately. They have

993
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: to be first in line for for for a coach.

994
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: And and because I rooted for black coaches because they

995
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: don't get jobs very often. But he may have fired himself.

996
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: Why why got the office coordinator that he got? Um?

997
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: All right, Washington State at Wisconsin a lot less exciting

998
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: of a game than Uh. Then I was thinking after

999
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: what happened with m with Idaho. Let's see, they beat

1000
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: Illinois State thirty eight to zero last week. This is

1001
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: another seventeen and a half point line. Wisconsin is favored.

1002
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: If I could jump around here without getting my headphones

1003
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: tangled tangled up, I would give me the Wisconsin Badgers. Homie,

1004
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: give me the Badgers. That is one of the most

1005
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: ruthless plays places to play college football. Love their fans.

1006
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: I played there. Uh yeah, it is a fun place

1007
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: to play in Washington State. After their their offensive effort

1008
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: last week, I don't trust them. Wisconsin is going to

1009
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: absolutely stop a mud hole in them big time. I'm

1010
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: trying to think of the last time a team that

1011
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: was this run heavy um took on Washington State and

1012
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: what happened. And I know that they don't have a

1013
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: ton of the same personnel as last year, but I

1014
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: just don't I can't find an example of it. So

1015
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to envision. Maybe you, but you talk,

1016
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna take. I'm I'm gonna take

1017
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: the I'm gonna take the coogs. I think this is

1018
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: a twelve we are yes, so one of US is

1019
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: gonna go into welve the other ones gonna go to

1020
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: a At this point, I think I know in your

1021
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: mind that you believe you're going towelve and oh every week,

1022
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: always always, bro There's no lack of confidence on this

1023
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: on this side of defense. Bro Um. Alright, Uh, next

1024
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: game up you and l V versus Cow. U and

1025
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: l V started out their season well this year, beat

1026
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: Idaho State fifty two to twenty one. Now they got Cow.

1027
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: What's this line looking like? Well, first of all, Idaho

1028
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 1: State is like and the reason that they hired Charley

1029
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: Regel away from Cal because they need a new direction.

1030
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: They were definitely one of the worst teams in all

1031
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: of FCS, so I wouldn't look too much into that.

1032
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: It is interesting that you want to be finally did

1033
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: something on offense after a SU hired away their offensive coordinators,

1034
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: So maybe that doesn't look so good for a su um.

1035
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: This is only a thirteen point uh spread? This Cow

1036
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: minus thirteen? Like this is if if if you could

1037
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: bet in North Carolina without actually driving your ask down

1038
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: to the sports book, I would lay the most money

1039
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: of any of anything on Cal covering the thirteen. Wow.

1040
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: I like Cow to cover, but they don't score enough

1041
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: damn points. Bro. They don't score enough points, which which

1042
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: which concerns me. And I think that you and l

1043
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: V is better than you see Davis, who lost by

1044
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: what twenty one points? They definitely have you ad un

1045
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: l V right now. And I don't want to be disrespectful,

1046
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: but they're one player. It's Doug Brumfeld like that. If

1047
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: Don Brun Doug Brumfeld balls out, then they're gonna be Okay.

1048
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: I still think they're gonna lose, but if he doesn't

1049
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: play perfectly, they're gonna get wrecked. Okay, so you've talked

1050
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: me into it, I am going to go with cal.

1051
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't trust Marcus Aroria his his offense because they

1052
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: haven't been good since he's been there, So until they

1053
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: proved that they're good, I don't trust it. Are Portland's

1054
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: State versus the Washington Huskies. They're gonna start out two

1055
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: and oh their fans are gonna be happy, but they

1056
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: still haven't played anybody yet, and then that Michigan State

1057
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: Test is gonna be but at least they'll have some confidence.

1058
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: But uh, is there even a line printed for this game?

1059
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm checking right, now, and you and I talked about

1060
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: the fact that there's a very strong piss possibility that

1061
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: not only start too and oh, but they might be

1062
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: six and oh seven and one um heading into the

1063
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: into the Oregon game. So I mean, I'm I'm all

1064
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: in on Washington to trick a whole bunch of people

1065
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: earlier in the season and tricked themselves too. They might

1066
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: trick themselves into believing that this is a this is

1067
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: the resurgence um of the Huskies. I don't have a

1068
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: line on ESPN, so I am checking elsewhere. I don't

1069
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: know what order you're going in. Otherwise I would just

1070
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: have these already laid out. Okay, so I'll go from

1071
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: here on out. I'll go on ESPN. I was on

1072
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: College press Box. Okay. Uh so Washington which has them

1073
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: like in chronological order. All right, So we have odd

1074
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: shark is saying nothing's better than dead air. I'm gonna

1075
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: end up blogging onto some site that gives my computer virus. No,

1076
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have any odds. Do you just

1077
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: want to make it? Should we make it thirty or something?

1078
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: Or no? Yeah, let's just I was gonna say, for

1079
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: like the other game, Portland's state is not. So do

1080
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: you think it's Portland Portland states better than southern Utah? Um? Yes,

1081
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: very much so okay, so then let's set it at

1082
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: thirty two. Then okay Portland's I'll take Portland's state plus

1083
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: thirty two. I will take Portland's state plus thirty two

1084
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, alright, U c l A verse the

1085
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: Alabama State Hornets. This is definitely a game that doesn't

1086
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: have a I think it was fifty fifty, all right,

1087
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: So Alabama State is twin Oh they beat Miles one

1088
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: to thirteen, Howard twenty three to thirteen. So I am

1089
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: going to go you ce l A Wait, are we

1090
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: setting it at fifty? No, it is fifty and a half.

1091
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go with U c l A

1092
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: plus fifty. I'm sorry, minus fifty and a half. I

1093
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: never take this side of the line. What do the

1094
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: kids say, ain't no way man, Alabama State? Yeah, all right, No, no,

1095
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: fifty fifty and a half. No, No, I'm not doing it.

1096
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm not doing fifty and a half. I'm I'm I'm

1097
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm somebody who has a hard time hitting on thirteen

1098
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: in black jack. I'm not taking a fifty and a

1099
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: half point isn't the Alabama State? Please good, I'm glad

1100
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 1: you said that. All right. Arizona State at Oklahoma State.

1101
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: I think last I checked, this was actually like eleven

1102
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: and a half in favor of Oklahoma State. But checking

1103
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: that now, uh, this is gonna be an interesting game

1104
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: because Oklahoma State looked really really good to open the season. Um,

1105
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: it's eleven, it's down to eleven, and the over under

1106
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: fifty eight. I would hammer that over by the way. UM,

1107
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: I think that I think that this has a chance

1108
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: to to be like a uh, you know, neither team

1109
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 1: is really going to be able to stop the other team.

1110
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: I think so just because you have two quarterbacks who

1111
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,959
Speaker 1: really can move um, and so I think that's gonna

1112
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: be pretty confounding for for both defenses. UM, and if

1113
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: it is under, it's probably gonna be Oklahoma State scoring

1114
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of points in Arizona State not really knowing

1115
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: what to do on the road because Arizona State is

1116
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: another one of those teams are on the road, they're

1117
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: just a completely different team. Oklahoma State minus eleven. I

1118
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: will roll with you on this one. I think it's

1119
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a two touchdown one. I think it's gonna

1120
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: be two out of hand. Um, but I think thirty

1121
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: twenty is reasonable um or possibly, you know, because I

1122
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: do like the over um. But yeah, I'll take a

1123
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: Glaoma State as well. All right, um, Oregon State Fresno State. Okay,

1124
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: we have to deal with Jake Haynter again. Mm hmmm

1125
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: him the Bees travel down the I five. This is

1126
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: even even money, bro, It's a pick them. Oregon State

1127
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: is getting most of the money right now, it looks like,

1128
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: but this is even yeah m hmm um rolling with

1129
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:02,480
Speaker 1: the Beavas, the Bevas. I'm staying with the Vivas, the Vivash.

1130
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: So you know what's interesting about this, and I know

1131
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: that you know it's basically moot point because of the

1132
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: amount of players that move around. But Fresno State finished

1133
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: their year last year. UM. One of their last games

1134
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: was against Poise State and it was a thirty six

1135
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: point loss. So we have kind of a common opponent,

1136
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 1: but obviously made up of you have a different coaching

1137
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: staff you have, UM, I would be an idiot. I

1138
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: would be an idiot right for going AGAINSTO Viver's two

1139
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. No go go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1140
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: pick pick pick Fresno State. Do what you wanna do,

1141
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 1: play Boy, do what you wanna do you feelip Froggy

1142
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: go go ahead. And so it looks like right right now,

1143
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna finish. So so far like two and eight.

1144
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: So listen, listen, you can, you can keep it up

1145
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: if you will whatever. Jake Kyner Jay Kinner for the

1146
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 1: whim Let's go loser um. Fox Sports Radio has the

1147
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,040
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1149
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,600
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1150
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: listen live of Michigan State at Arizona. Now, I don't

1151
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: think those two teams are playing Mississippi State. I'm very

1152
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: unprepared for what Arizona has on their schedule Mississippi State.

1153
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: So this is an interesting one because this is my

1154
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: lea yeah, and Mike Leach. One of his worst losses

1155
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: ever happened in Tucson. This is Mississippi State coming to Tucson,

1156
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: and people are being super reactive right now, like this

1157
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a Mississippi State coming to town

1158
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: and just just st yeah, and now it's only a

1159
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: ten and a half point line, and you're what you're

1160
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: seeing is a lot of people reacting to how good

1161
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: Arizona looked in in the opening game. And I gotta

1162
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: be honest, man, I don't I don't feel like that

1163
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: reactiveness is appropriate. This is still Arizona's defensive backfield now

1164
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: against uh a spread offense. M see what you gotta remember,

1165
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: It is not just a spread. This is Mike leach

1166
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: is spread against a defensive coordinator who's seen it and

1167
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: knows how to combat it. So give me the wild

1168
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: Cats and the points. Give me them tend and a

1169
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: half points. I'm taking them. I think Mississippi State still wins,

1170
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: but only by a touchdown. But don't be surprised that

1171
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:57,440
Speaker 1: the Wildcast shock the world. Boy, who I'm on? Jetfish

1172
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: is bandwagon? Jonathan Smith's bandwagon. Get right right now, I

1173
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: am in the pack twelve. Just as soon as we

1174
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: start coming coming back is gonna break up? Okay, Well,

1175
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: I just I'm not convinced that Memphisis dbs are any

1176
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: less or more talented than Arizona's. I think they're probably

1177
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: on the same level. And Willi Contres just went yards

1178
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, So because they're not used to seeing that. Yeah,

1179
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: they're not used to seeing that offense, and they went

1180
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: the total wrong way about going to go stop it.

1181
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm on the opposite side of you

1182
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: again on this one, and it makes me feel like

1183
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: a Pack twelve hater, what a loser? Okay, alright, as

1184
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: we're wedding well no, no, no, not wait from wait,

1185
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:58,440
Speaker 1: wedding crisis. Yeah, um so yeah, um, next game USC Stanford.

1186
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: This game is on the farm. USC is feeling real

1187
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: good about themselves. Sixties six points last week against Rice.

1188
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: Now they go on the farm to take on Stanford.

1189
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: I actually feel better about Stanford playing at USC than

1190
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: I do Stanford playing on the farm, which is weird.

1191
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: Is this a revenge game or is it not a

1192
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: revenge game because Clay Hilton is not there anymore? Both? Both? Okay, Um,

1193
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: this spread is going to shock you. It's eight and

1194
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: a half points in favor of USC. No, I think

1195
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: that's reasonable. I actually think that that's reasonable. And give

1196
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: me them, cardinal homie. They are gonna make this ugly.

1197
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: They are going to shut this high because if you

1198
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,879
Speaker 1: can stop us Lincoln Riley's offense from running the football.

1199
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams did not look great last year. If they

1200
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: could stop them, I'm running and I think Stanford will

1201
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 1: do a good job of stopping them from running the football,

1202
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: trying to make them throw the ball all the time,

1203
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: which is gonna play in their favor. Give me Stanford

1204
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: plus them eight? Was it eight and a half? I

1205
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 1: might need a no. Is it an eight and a

1206
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: half or nine? It's eight and a half. Some places

1207
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: have at nine. We'll stick with eight and a half.

1208
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need autumn points, though I wish it was nine,

1209
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: but uh, I'm gonna need autumn points. Well. Betters are

1210
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: probably gonna drag this up even higher as we get

1211
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: closer to kickoff, but I'm gonna I'm gonna go with USC.

1212
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: And here's why. Stanford means nothing to Lincoln Riley. It

1213
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: means nothing to all those transfers. It just Dave David

1214
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: Shaw means nothing to Lincoln Riley. There is no there's

1215
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: no weird juju from how weird these games always go

1216
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: that has anything to do with any of the staff

1217
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: that is at USC right now outside of maybe Dante Williams.

1218
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: And so I think you're gonna get a four team

1219
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: point USC win. Here I'll go to USC M M. Listen,

1220
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: the Juju carry carries over like Oregon Standford Juju It

1221
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: carry carries over. Brother. All right, last game up Eastern

1222
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: Washington Oregon. What is the line on this game? Eastern

1223
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: Washington last week played Tennessee State thirty nine Oregon. You

1224
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: know they had a scrimmage last week, so their first

1225
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: game is this week. So where are you going? If

1226
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: you had to set the line, what would you put

1227
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: it at? Probably? I mean Oregon on the scored three

1228
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: three points last week, so it would be very conservative.

1229
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: I probably put it at thirty two. Oh, then you're

1230
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna like this because it is Oh my god, that

1231
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: is gross. Give me. Give me Oregon all day. They

1232
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: are they're gonna win this game by like thirty five points.

1233
01:15:54,680 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: They better win this game by thirty five points. Yeah.

1234
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: Their quarterback ball forty six times for five touchdowns, Andy

1235
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: rush for another sixty yards. Yeah. I think we're just

1236
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna be different this week because I think that I

1237
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: think this is a I think twenty is about where

1238
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: I max it out at um and I think it's

1239
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: probably gonna take because Oregon still hasn't had the opportunity

1240
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: to go through what everybody else did, which is to

1241
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: find themselves. Right. They still probably need that quarter to

1242
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: figure things out, so I think they pull away. I

1243
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: do think that they win. But twenty is about where

1244
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable at and twenty one is just beyond that.

1245
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: So let's just be different on almost every pick. I

1246
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: feel real good about this week. Baby. If I'm twelve

1247
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: and oh that makes you what like three and three

1248
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: and nine, I think where you like two, we're on

1249
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: the same side of like two of them. Okay, so

1250
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: hey to in two and ten you'll be okay. Yeah,

1251
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: I think I think you'll recover at some point, but

1252
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: it won't be this week, baby. UM final final thing

1253
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: is um. So the pack twelve overall had a good

1254
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: week last last week, the teams at the top didn't

1255
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 1: do the Both teams at top lost. I thought Utah

1256
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: still looked very respectable, very good. Oregon got trash canned.

1257
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: But now after this next week, how will we be

1258
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: viewing the conference? After Mississippi State are Mississippi State, Arizona,

1259
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: Oregon State, Fresno State, um cal U, n l V,

1260
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: Arizona State, Oklahoma, State, Air Force, Colorado, and Washington State Wisconsin.

1261
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: Because because the other games are not consequential. I'm not

1262
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: giving Washington State a chance. I hope I'm wrong about that.

1263
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: But the four games to me that they have to

1264
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: win at least two of or else we're just gonna

1265
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: get made fun of by everybody is Oregon State, Fresno State,

1266
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: Colorado Air Force. They're not gonna So we're then either

1267
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: of the Arizona schools. I think if they go two

1268
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: and two in those and I expect everybody else to

1269
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: kind of do their job, I think I think we'll

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Speaker 1: be okay. Um, but it would look really good for

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Speaker 1: the like. So if like Arizona and Oregon State both

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Speaker 1: win in Arizona State and Colorado can't, then I think

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Speaker 1: people will look at that and be like, oh, that

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. I don't think it will give anybody

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Speaker 1: any reason to ship on our conference any more than

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Speaker 1: they already are. But if they go oh and four

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Speaker 1: in those games and Washington State gets blown out at Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna care about what happens with Alabama State in

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Speaker 1: U C. L A or Eastern Washington and Oregon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would be nice though, to have a you know,

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Speaker 1: a thirteen out of fourteen weekend like the SEC had

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Speaker 1: last last weekend. Yeah, if both Arizona schools win, then

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Speaker 1: you will then then that will erase what happened last

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Speaker 1: week in my opinion, because then people be like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: the conference is really thick in the middle. Yep, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a that's what she said. God all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm George Reiser, he's Ralph after peace out, Catch you

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Speaker 1: guys later.