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Speaker 1: All right, how you doing everyone, and welcome to Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live here, presented to you by Corps Light,

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Speaker 1: as always seen on Giants dot Com. I am Ras Salzburg,

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Speaker 1: joined today by Lance Meadow and just a little bit

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Speaker 1: of business to talk about, you know, saying it uh facetiously.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't heard the news, the news is Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a backseat to Daniel Jones, who will start

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Speaker 1: his first game as quarterback for the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: this coming Sunday in Tampa. Lance the news. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's a shock as much as just because

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Speaker 1: it's after the second game. But here's how I view it,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people are gonna feel

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Speaker 1: this way. I'm calling it an awkward situation. The reason

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Speaker 1: I'm calling it an awkward situation is because from an

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning standpoint, and you know, we've covered him a

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Speaker 1: long time. I've seen him almost every day in the

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Speaker 1: football season for sixty years. So it's a sad day

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Speaker 1: when you have somebody of that stature who is beloved

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Speaker 1: by the organization. Now he takes a back seat. But

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Speaker 1: the reason I call the day awkward is because it's

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Speaker 1: also the launch of the Daniel Jones era. So it's

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Speaker 1: that's the nature of sports, you know, it's with coaches,

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Speaker 1: with managers in all sports. Some people get hired, some

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Speaker 1: people get fired, and then they're replaced by friends. So

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Speaker 1: that's why I call it an awkward situation. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a transition, that's essentially what you just laid out us.

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Speaker 1: And transition is not easy with any respective life, specifically

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, because it's so difficult to play this position,

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Speaker 1: and you have franchises that are always looking to get

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Speaker 1: the next successor in line, right, I mean, that's what

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Speaker 1: everybody is trying to do. Look at the Steelers with

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger going down, Mason Rudolph gets an opportunity. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna have an opportunity to evaluate their quarterback who perhaps

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Speaker 1: is going to be the long term answers. So the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the rationale is the same thing, you know, transitioning from

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning to Daniel Jones. Give Daniel Jones an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to continue to develop as a quarterback. He was a

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Speaker 1: high first round pick for a reason, and this is

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Speaker 1: now going to accelerate the development process. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly I think a mixed emotional. Right, You've got

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Speaker 1: the start on the opposite end of the spectrum of

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Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones errors. So I can understand fans having

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Speaker 1: mixed emotions and will certainly unravel it all over these

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Speaker 1: next sixty minutes here on Big Blue Kickoff Live. But

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Speaker 1: I think circumstances changed in the National Football League RUST,

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Speaker 1: and that's important to understand. And I always like to

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Speaker 1: provide other examples as perspective, because I think sometimes when

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Speaker 1: we focus on the New York Giants, we get bottled

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Speaker 1: down in this team as if the Giants aren't an

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Speaker 1: island and there's not thirty one other teams. But a

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Speaker 1: case at point, the Philadelphi Eagles. Okay, let's go. In

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Speaker 1: the NFCS two thousand sixteen US, they draft Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: high in the first round, Okay, right behind Jared goth

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Speaker 1: That year, if you recall, they signed Sam Bradford, they

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Speaker 1: who had familiarity with Doug Peterson's offensive scheme. He was

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, and what happens during the course of

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Speaker 1: the preseason, well, Carson Wentz his sideline, but they certainly

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Speaker 1: They ultimately decided to trade Sam Bradford when it looked

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Speaker 1: week one. So that's an example of how the Eagles

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Speaker 1: didn't go into the off season ross saint to themselves

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Speaker 1: Carson went is gonna be the starter week one. Circumstances

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Speaker 1: seeing this change. When I talk about awkward though, using

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Speaker 1: and such as life, we now move forward again. I

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Speaker 1: End quote. Nothing surprises you for me, the one and

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're both gentlemen. But that's why we call

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Speaker 1: it an awkward situation. Nonetheless, the situation has been made. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and I think part of the heart to heart was,

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Speaker 1: You're coming back, but at some point, and I don't

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Speaker 1: thinking about the future, we're gonna have to get the

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. So that's the way I'm looking at this situation.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it is what it is. Eli Manning is

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Speaker 1: how are we doing today. I'm good, Russ, I'm good. Uh, Lance,

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Speaker 1: that's Eli. No, You're right, Ruts, But unfortunately things do change.

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Speaker 1: the decision, um, because I do think at the end

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Speaker 1: a chance to change very fast. The the I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the temperature around the team, at least from outside the

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Speaker 1: what does a successful outcome look like with with Daniel Jones?

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Speaker 1: You know, starting starting off on on on this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: terms of you're not necessarily judging Daniel Jones by wins

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Speaker 1: and lasses, You're judging his comfort level, how he commands

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Speaker 1: the huddle, how he runs the offense, because those are

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Speaker 1: the principles you want to build upon moving forward. Remember

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Speaker 1: when Eli Manning came in for Kurt Warner in two

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any and thanks for the call, Dave.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that. It's strictly

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Speaker 1: But to say that they're owing to simply because of

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Speaker 1: check in with Michael. Hello Michael, you're on with Russ

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Speaker 1: and Lance. Well, hello Lance and russa the first time

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Speaker 1: a long time. I love this show. Welcome on board.

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Speaker 1: What do you got? Yes? Um, well, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm like you were saying earlier. It is a bitter

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Speaker 1: a small sandles. I mean, come on, we're talking about

427
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Speaker 1: two games at this point. It's the same overreaction to

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Speaker 1: when the quarterback struggles for one or two games and

429
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know somebody wants to crown

430
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Speaker 1: them or not crown them once again. You gotta give

431
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: these young players just like I gotta give teams sometimes,

432
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Speaker 1: you know, a few games until you get their true

433
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Speaker 1: identity and get a sense of where their strengths and

434
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Speaker 1: their weaknesses are. So I mean that to me is

435
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Speaker 1: just a knee jerk reaction. All right, let's gotta remind everybody,

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Speaker 1: oh four six four for more details. But the other thing, Russ,

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00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: that I wanted to mention before we go back to

443
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Speaker 1: the lines, just picking up where the Colo left off,

444
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: you have to understand the Giants, since they started Elne

445
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Speaker 1: Manning in Week eleven of two thousand four, have had

446
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Speaker 1: just two quarterbacks start a game, Eli Manning and Geno

447
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Smith for that one game. That's the fewest amount of

448
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that any team has ever thrown out since that

449
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: span up until today. So, I mean that's just there

450
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: to provide some perspective. The Chargers are second. They have three.

451
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Speaker 1: They had Drew Brees, Doug Flutie, Philip Rivers from week

452
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Speaker 1: eleven of two thousand four to now. It's an unbelievable

453
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Speaker 1: luxury that the Giants have had to have one quarterback

454
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Speaker 1: show durability, be able to you know, stay on the center,

455
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: take the hits. He did play through the injuries. You

456
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: don't see that in today's you know. That's the other

457
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: thing about Eli. You know Eli, he he doesn't because

458
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Speaker 1: that's just not his nature. He's not a phone. He

459
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: doesn't give you that macho I mean tough. You know that,

460
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: don't that? All shucks? Doesn't tell a story about Eli Manning.

461
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: Eli Manning is one tough dude, and his record for

462
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: playing and standing tall and withstanding and withstanding the punishment

463
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Speaker 1: pretty pretty darn good. Let's go to North Carolina and

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Speaker 1: check in with David. Hello, David, you're on with Russ

465
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Speaker 1: and Lance. Hey, gentleman, how's going? Um? Obviously want to

466
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Speaker 1: want to start off the call just uh thanking Eli

467
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Speaker 1: Manning for for his career, his professionalism, UM, and just

468
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: the two Super Bowls, the two Lombardies in the case,

469
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Speaker 1: there can't thank him enough for that. UM. I wanted

470
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Speaker 1: to call in sooner last week after I called in Lance.

471
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Speaker 1: You may remember, I believe you and UH poly Dots

472
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Speaker 1: were hosting and UM, I talked about after the Dallas game,

473
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Speaker 1: I felt like the change needed to be made. And

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Speaker 1: I know our friend Lynn from Maryland called in, who's

475
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite callers, and I think, yeah, you remember.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little disgruntled. And I'm not calling

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Speaker 1: in UH to say I told you so, Please don't

478
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Speaker 1: take it that way. I just wanted to kind of

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Speaker 1: explore some more of what I was trying to say

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Speaker 1: and explain. And there's some of you guys have obviously

481
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Speaker 1: touched on it, but you know, UM, after two games,

482
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Speaker 1: it's it's obvious that you know, whether we don't have

483
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Speaker 1: enough talent or the talent we do that's going to

484
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Speaker 1: have to develop. UM. You know, now is the time

485
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Speaker 1: to play Daniel Jones because UM, as John has said,

486
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Speaker 1: there's there's enough talent on offense where he can succeed.

487
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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's gonna get hurt. And I

488
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Speaker 1: think the lines playing well enough um that that he

489
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Speaker 1: won't get hurt. And and so that was part of

490
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Speaker 1: my argument, um, was of why I thought they should

491
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Speaker 1: go ahead and you know, make the tough decision to

492
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Speaker 1: go to Jones. But all and and my other thing was,

493
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Speaker 1: and it is being a little bit of critical and Eli,

494
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Speaker 1: but I mean, you can you can love somebody and

495
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Speaker 1: be critical of them. But my other argument was not

496
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Speaker 1: that these losses in these past few years or he

497
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Speaker 1: last fault because it is a team game. But just

498
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: my personal opinion, the truly great ones when they're in

499
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Speaker 1: their prime and they're that you know, quote franchise quarterback,

500
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: they elevate the talent around them. And it doesn't mean

501
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Speaker 1: that it necessarily equates to wins or playoff first their

502
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins. In my humble opinion, and it's a

503
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Speaker 1: very humble opinion. The last few years, I just haven't

504
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Speaker 1: seen that and and what and let me see, I'll

505
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Speaker 1: try to make it briefly finished, because I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you think about it over the years, guys like Kevin Balls,

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Speaker 1: Jake ballard Um, I remember a Thursday night game they

508
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Speaker 1: went down. I was there against the Panthers with Andre

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Speaker 1: Brown and Ramsey's Barton Um. They ended the home winning

510
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Speaker 1: streak in New England in two thousand and eleven with

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Speaker 1: David out David. But but but David, David, David, listen

512
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Speaker 1: to me and thank you for the call. But listen,

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Speaker 1: what's the big difference between those teams and the past

514
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Speaker 1: few years? Since you're alluding to them, there was you know,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Kevin Boss is or what there was an

516
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Speaker 1: offensive line, Well, there was also a good defense exactly. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean to make that comparison, David. You were good

518
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Speaker 1: with everything until you got to that point. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a distinct difference the last few years, a distinct difference.

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00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: Jake Ballard and Kevin Boss played for the Giants teams

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Speaker 1: that were in Super Bowl contention, so you know, far difference.

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00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: The dynamics, the makeup of this team has changed. The

523
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: roster has turned over immensely. You have a very young defense,

524
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: so you know, he picked out points where yes, the

525
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: Giants were clicking offensively, but they were also an extremely

526
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Speaker 1: balanced team. And this year right now, it's a transitional

527
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: year because of so many new faces and so many

528
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Speaker 1: rookies that are expected to make a significant impact that

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Speaker 1: I don't think the level of consistency is where the

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Speaker 1: caller was alluding to with some of those previous years.

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Speaker 1: And real quickly before we get back to the lines,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, okay, is somebody that I would argue is

533
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Speaker 1: still very much in the prime of his career. Us

534
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Speaker 1: and last year, you know, you would argue Aaron Rodgers

535
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Speaker 1: is a guy that's elevating his team, and the Packers

536
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: didn't win many games. So it just goes to show

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Speaker 1: you it's not just the quarterback. It's the environment around

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and everything, the defense, the special teams. That's

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Speaker 1: what adds up to the winds. You can have a

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Speaker 1: guy make a great throw and he takes a hit,

541
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're gonna get a W in the

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Speaker 1: column as a result of that. You know, to say us,

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Speaker 1: he used the term, Dave used the term of elevating.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not Eli's job to elevate the defense. Well, kay,

545
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Speaker 1: it's you know, so you lost me when you got

546
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: to that point. But a lot of people got a

547
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: lot to say because it's it's really it's an historic

548
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: day in Giants history. I mean, this is the end

549
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Speaker 1: of a great, great starting career as a New York

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Speaker 1: Giant for Eli Manning. Two one five one three is

551
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Speaker 1: a number. Let's go to our friend in Portland, Maine,

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00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: charl Late charl Late Charlie. Hello, Charle, how you doing today?

553
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Bun Hey Ross PAULI couldn't come on because it hurt

554
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: too much. I get it, I get it. Actually, in

555
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: all fairness, there was a schedule change. But I did

556
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: speak to Paul this morning. Yeah, he'd be the first

557
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: one to tell you. As a longtime Giant fan as

558
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: well as a guy works in the business, he loves

559
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: his Giants and and just his his emotions about Eli.

560
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: He wouldn't hide. So look, Eli's demise is widely exaggerated.

561
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: Who's the number two quarterback on the depth chart? Who's

562
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: the backup Manning? I mean, he just he loves to

563
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: play his system and Eli never fit his system. So

564
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna have Daniel Jones running all over the place, rollouts,

565
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: running the ball, and don't be surprised if somebody gets

566
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Speaker 1: hurt in Eli's back in the game. So don't you know,

567
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: don't say this is it for you I because it isn't. No, no,

568
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. And you know what, Charlie, you

569
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: make an excellent, excellent point because I'm sure and you

570
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: kind of open up the discussion because I was going

571
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: to bring that uplands in a little bit. Charlie, you

572
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: make a very good point, which is not a statement

573
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: we say, very well, no, but when you think about it, listen,

574
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to mobility, there's no question about the

575
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: mobility of Daniel Jones. And yes he will run more,

576
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: but go for forbid, we don't want Daniel Jones to

577
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: get hurt. And I'll tell you something else more than

578
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: we don't want Daniel Jones to get hurt, another guy

579
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: who really doesn't want him to get hurt is one

580
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Eli Manning himself having said that if God forbid something

581
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: that happens, he's in there. But what you know, we're

582
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: just saying this is the end, if you will, of

583
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: certainly for the time being, it's the end of Eli

584
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: being the starter and the launch of Daniel Jones. And

585
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: the thing is is like, we don't even know, if

586
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, if Daniel Jones is going to be salmon bones.

587
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, we don't know how this guy is gonna

588
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: take hits, how he's gonna survive. Like Eli did, I mean,

589
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: we have no idea this guy is not the savior

590
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants. Well, no, I don't think.

591
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Charlie being laid out that way. He's

592
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: not being laid out as being the savior. But Charlie,

593
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: maybe not this year. He's a savior, Charlie. I think

594
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: he's going to be next year. Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie.

595
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: He's being laid out as the future. That's why you

596
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: draft guys high. They're the future. If you want to

597
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: call him the savior, fine, Sometimes the future doesn't work

598
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: out and they don't become the savior, but he is.

599
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: The Only change that needed to be made was changing

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00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: the person who's calling the place and letting Mike Schuler

601
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: call the place since he brought a team to the

602
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl by calling place, and that's what should be changed.

603
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: Scharmer should be trying to be a head coach and

604
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: not trying to be calling place too. I wish he

605
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: would do that, just be the head coach and can

606
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: let you call the place, because Schuler would utilize the

607
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: strength of his players, not like Shermer and we're gonna

608
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: see I'm telling you right now here, I will be back.

609
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: He'll probably be back in the first game in Ampa Bay.

610
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna be back, and he's gonna win some games,

611
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: and all this Daniel Jones stop is gonna go away

612
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: until next year. That's a few things that I just

613
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: want to sort of clarify that Charlie brought up. I

614
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: feel like kids dea well over again because I always

615
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: do this every time Charlie calls up number one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: part of the appeal of hiring a guy like Pat

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00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Shermer was because of his offensive play calling and what

618
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: he did it as previous stints. Okay, it's just like

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh was hired as the Rams head coach because

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00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: of what he did in previous stints. Matt Lafleur, who's

621
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: now the Packers head coach, was a play caller. They

622
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: hired him because of his appeal. So it defeats the

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00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: purpose to then bring that coach in and tell him, oh,

624
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: by the way, you could be the head coach, but

625
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: we don't want you to be the play caller. So

626
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: you have to understand that that that's not just the Giants.

627
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: That's how things work across the NFL. Why would you

628
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: now take away what was appealing when you initially hired

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Speaker 1: the coach number two. As far as this whole savior

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Speaker 1: conversation goes, yes, he is being labeled as the franchise

631
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: quarterback and the Giants believe that he will fulfill that

632
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: label based on what they've seen in college and what

633
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: they've scouted. That doesn't mean that he's going to be

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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: a savior tomorrow and all of a sudden the Giants

635
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: are gonna score fifty points a game. Okay, those are

636
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: complete two different things, but there has to be a

637
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: transitional point RUSS at any franchise level where you allow

638
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Speaker 1: the young quarterback to come in to start to spread

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Speaker 1: his wings. The Giants have chosen week three of the

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen season to make that transition. Time will

641
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: tell what becomes of Daniel Jones, but to label him

642
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Speaker 1: immediately as a savior is completely misleading. As opposed to

643
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: he's the franchise quarterback, he has potential upside, dubbed the

644
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback of the view future. Look, we've said this,

645
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Speaker 1: I know I've said it here. I'm sure you heard it.

646
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: You know from Lance and other people sitting in these

647
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Speaker 1: seats with you on Big Blue Kickoff Live here. You

648
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: know this job was not for when I say his job,

649
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: the GMS job, when Dave Gettleman took over, it was

650
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: not for a first time GM. Okay, it was not

651
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: for a guy who was a rookie GM. A lot

652
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: of changes needed to be made and and you needed

653
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: a guy who was a veteran who can make those

654
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: and tough decisions. That's number one. Number two, when when

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Speaker 1: he took the job, I mean, I'm not privy to

656
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Speaker 1: what the meetings were lands but when he took the job, no,

657
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: not no, no, But what I'm saying. What I'm saying

658
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: is nobody told me what exactly went on in those meetings.

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Speaker 1: But I can guarantee you, because the proof is in

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Speaker 1: the pudding, you're gonna have to leave us Dave with

661
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the future. That is how when all

662
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: is said and done, and I hope Dave is here

663
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: for a long time, when all is said and done,

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Speaker 1: he will be judged on Daniel Jones and and that's

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Speaker 1: that was the future. That's why he picked them, Okay,

666
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: that's why. So to say, yeah, he's the future. We're

667
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Speaker 1: launching into the future Sunday in Tampa with Daniel Jones.

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00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: That's what the Giants are doing. Whether he becomes the savior,

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Speaker 1: that remains to be seen. Let's go to Staten Island again.

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Speaker 1: Two oh one four or five one three is the number.

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Speaker 1: Go to Staten Island. Check in with Pete. Hello, Pete?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today? How are you doing? Guys?

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Speaker 1: How are you good? Uh? Good? I just you know what,

674
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Speaker 1: I've been talking with a lot of guys over the

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Speaker 1: last you know, be eaten before after they drafted Jones,

676
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Speaker 1: and I was telling the guys, you know what, I'm

677
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Speaker 1: not even gonna go there right now. The point is,

678
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Speaker 1: you know, my contention is that this move had to

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Speaker 1: be made, period. And the reason I'm saying that is

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Speaker 1: with the current roster we have, I don't care who

681
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is, whether it be Line, whether it be

682
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Bottom line is we're not gonna win at

683
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Speaker 1: the end of the day. We're not not what the

684
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Speaker 1: current russ of the way it is at this point.

685
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Speaker 1: So it just was the prudent move to make going

686
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Speaker 1: into your future. Now, if you say that, and Gettleman

687
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Speaker 1: has said Daniel Jones is a future franchise quarterback. He

688
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: labeled them that, and he said, I'm in love with him.

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Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then it's the only move

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Speaker 1: to make period. Okay, because you're not gonna win with

691
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Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do? Let Daniel sit on

692
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Speaker 1: the bench all year? For what? What's the point? It

693
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to win seven games. To win six

694
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: games doesn't make sense. If you're going to move on

695
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Speaker 1: to your so called future franchise quarterback, you had to

696
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: move now to get him ready. But that's not about

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Speaker 1: this year. It's not about this year. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody would dispute that. I think there are a lot

699
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: of fans that do dispute that. Russ I think you're wrong. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that fans are disputing it, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, in fact, you're just one of many so

702
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Speaker 1: farthers today who've called they can feel bad, but they're

703
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Speaker 1: not disputing Uh, you know the situation. Lance just said,

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Speaker 1: you know, if everybody, if anybody thinks that the Giants

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Speaker 1: are all of an all of a sudden score fifty

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Speaker 1: points a game because danrew I don't pete. Nobody's saying Pete.

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Speaker 1: Nobody is saying that, no, no one, No one's saying

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Speaker 1: that that's what this is. This is not turning into

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Speaker 1: an offensive juggernaut. We haven't heard any of the fans

710
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Speaker 1: say that it's not turning into an offensive juggernaut. It

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00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: is looking towards the future. So that's what the Giants

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Speaker 1: are doing. Whether you or I or Lance or anybody

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00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: likes it or not, that's what the eye is clearly

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Speaker 1: on the future. Now, if you're worth anything as a

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Speaker 1: professional athlete or as a coach, you're gonna go into

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00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: every game thinking to win, wanting to win. Whether that happens,

717
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: that's whole of course, but that's how your mindset has

718
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Speaker 1: to be. Otherwise you're a loser if you're not going

719
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: and thinking that way. Well, and Pat Shermer is also

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Speaker 1: not thinking that Daniel Jones is not going to be productive.

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Speaker 1: You know, part of the rationale behind the move too

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Speaker 1: is that you know, they have faith that Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: is ready and he could be a starting quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So, you know, to refer back to the

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Speaker 1: Cohler's point, I don't think it's the mindset of that

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00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: the Giants had no hope that they were going to

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Speaker 1: win games this season. I think it's finding a balance,

728
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Speaker 1: RUSS between developing your young quarterback and remaining competitive and

729
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Speaker 1: being able to position yourself to win games. But once again,

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Speaker 1: if you were to ask Pat Shermer Dave Gettelman, did

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Speaker 1: they think that the team was going to start oh

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Speaker 1: in two, I don't know. I mean I didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: have a conversation with them think that. I think that

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Speaker 1: was the farthest thing correct. So that's an example of

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Speaker 1: RUSS once again, how circumstances change, and as a result

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Speaker 1: of the circumstances changed, the time in line changes. You know,

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Speaker 1: in an ideal world, if we had fortune tellers tell

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Speaker 1: us how the NFL season we're gonna play out, we

739
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to watch the games, we wouldn't have this

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Speaker 1: talk show. There'd be nothing to speculate and talk about.

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Speaker 1: But that's the land of parody. Competitive balance in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. It's why there's such a high turnover

743
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Speaker 1: rate and why it's so difficult to constantly get back

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs because the disparity between teams is minute

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Although records sometimes where the

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Speaker 1: team wins tall games, the team wins two. It looks

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Speaker 1: like these teams are miles and miles apart. Really not,

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Speaker 1: and that's why things change very quickly in the National

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Speaker 1: the number. Let's go to Tony in TEENA. Hello Tony,

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Speaker 1: how we doing today? Yeah? Hi, hey guys, um as

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Speaker 1: a season ticket holder. Since I don't want it, we

759
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: all sit there and watch games and watch the team.

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Speaker 1: You know, ten years from now, maybe they'll be better

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Speaker 1: five years for that. I want to win now, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's really Eli's fault yees yees four

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Speaker 1: t ds this year, right, what the defense offense called

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00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: four touchdowns? That's more than Green Bay and that's two

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Speaker 1: and oh. If we would have a defense, we'd win,

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Speaker 1: we'd win something. We would have been at least one

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Speaker 1: and one. But you know what tone nobody is saying

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00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: it's that's not what the discussion is. It's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Pat Scharman. I'm sure you'll hear more of this tomorrow

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Speaker 1: when he addresses the media. It's not nobody's saying it's

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00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: all Eli's fault. That's not what the discussion is about.

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Speaker 1: But the team is owing two. There are other problems.

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Speaker 1: You know, you want to be in particular talking about

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Speaker 1: the defense, but the point being, but you know, but

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Speaker 1: but but if if if, you know, but if doesn't

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Speaker 1: Tony Tony, Tony Tony, if doesn't get it done, thank

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Speaker 1: you for the call. If doesn't get it done, you're

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00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: talking about a team that's owen two. The Giants want

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Speaker 1: to look towards the future, to develop the future with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Believe me, I'm the last guy in the

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Speaker 1: world that wanted this to happen. I was saying, you

782
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: would hear um, not Lance Uh, Pauli Dotts and myself.

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00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 1: You would hear us saying that for crying out loud.

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Speaker 1: You know, if Eli has a good year, I won't

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Speaker 1: be shocked to see him back next year. But it

786
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: didn't work out that way. It didn't work out that way. Then,

787
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Speaker 1: whether who's fault or what they're owen two. They have

788
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Speaker 1: to look towards the future because then you know what,

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Speaker 1: Uh if you don't look look towards the future, then

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00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: when the future gets here, you'd be p old because

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00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: nobody did anything about the future. You can't have it

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Speaker 1: both ways. I will say this about the last cooler

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Speaker 1: Tony's comments. I think what he laid out was a

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00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: fair assessment. I don't think it was hyperbolear stretch. The

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Speaker 1: defense needs to play better rush. It's well documented. Is

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Speaker 1: it simply on the offense as to why the Giants

797
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: are on to know? But at the same time, the

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Speaker 1: offense has failed to score twenty points in each of

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Speaker 1: the first two games. The offenses also five of twenty

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Speaker 1: three on set down. That's why I said, when you

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Speaker 1: break down these first two games, to simply just tell

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Speaker 1: the story based on the quarterback, To simply tell the

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00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: story based on the defense is not telling the whole story.

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Speaker 1: There are issues that need to be addressed at various

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00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: facets of this team. But to your point, Russ, we

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00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: could sit here and lay out all the hypotheticals if

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00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: the Giants made two more defensive stops and kept the

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Speaker 1: opposition out of the end zone. Is that guarantee that

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Speaker 1: they're two and oh no, I wouldn't go that far.

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Speaker 1: Does that guarantee that they're one and one? So? I mean,

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Speaker 1: these exercises, they're fun. It's great to have sports talk

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Speaker 1: program where we can play the if spots and whatever's.

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Speaker 1: But you don't know for a fact that if the

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Speaker 1: Giants defense made an additional stop or two what their

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Speaker 1: record would be. The reality is they need to improve

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00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: on all facets of this team. There and two, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: and uh I don't there. I guess you could say

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Speaker 1: they're impressive O and two's and unimpressive and well do

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Speaker 1: you get brownie points still for that? Russ At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, Bill Parcel says, you

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Speaker 1: are that's exactly right. That's exactly right, is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Let's go down to Tampa again. Two O one nine,

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Speaker 1: nine four or five one three is your number, and

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Speaker 1: down to Tampa. It's Rick. Hello, Rick, how are we

825
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: doing today? Hey Russe lads? What's somebody I tell you?

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Speaker 1: You know what, first thing, I was gonna stay kind

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Speaker 1: of what Charlie said to start off that, you know lot,

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Speaker 1: not a good start, by the way, but he's I know, right,

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Speaker 1: I agree with him in a sense that you don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Eli is not going to a farm. He's

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. And especially with the mobility that Jones has,

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Speaker 1: and he does have a bit of a fumble lightist too,

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Speaker 1: he has to work on, you know, reaching for a ball,

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Speaker 1: he could get hurt. You never know, So Eli is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily then makes me the last of him because

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Speaker 1: that could happen. So I would agree with him on that. Well.

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Speaker 1: But but here's the thing, Rick, before you continue, every quarterback,

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Speaker 1: every player in the National Football League, can expose themselves

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Speaker 1: to injury at any point. So to sit here and

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Speaker 1: say Daniel Jones, because he's got more mobility, is at

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Speaker 1: greater risk for an injury than any other quarterback, who

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00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: would have thought Drew Brees would get hurt. Drew Brees

843
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: is not the most mobile quarterback, and Aaron Donald hits

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Speaker 1: him on the hand. You can't predict the nation, just can't.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I just say, yeah, that's true. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying he's more mobile than Eli. Butsute. Yeah, the the

847
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: the and the state of the stat they put on

848
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: last night's Game of the Quarterbacks in the NFC East,

849
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: the team they've had with Squid, Redskins, Silly and and

850
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: Dallas since Eli's been there fifteen thirteen, twelve quarterbacks. Unbelievable

851
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: to think that, you know that we've had it. Take

852
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: for grant, we've had Eli so long. You know. Paul

853
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: was on f an earlier and he did. He did say, Hey,

854
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: you never know, something could be lurking in the background

855
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: of this of why they because I thought they'd wait

856
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: one more game, but they went for What do you mean,

857
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: what do you mean something, Grick, What do you mean

858
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: something could be lurking? Oh no, no, I'm gonna tell you.

859
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: He was saying that there possibly could be something that

860
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: they want to make a trade, that there's a team

861
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: that might want Eli. Well that's what he said. He says,

862
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: you never know, it could happen and and and that

863
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: may be very well. Let me tell let let me

864
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: tell you about this, Rick in terms of I knew

865
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: somebody would bring it up in terms of trading Eli. Okay,

866
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: this is not about you, Rick, It's not about me

867
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Russ or a lance here. And I don't even say

868
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: it's about the Giants. After the career that he's given

869
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: the Giants fifteen and now this is the sixteen season.

870
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: This decision and his decision alone should be left up

871
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: to Eli manning what's good for Eli, his wife and

872
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: four children. That is it. And I think that's what

873
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: Paul was saying, is that they may be discussing that

874
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: with his dad and everything because there are some openings. Now,

875
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, let me go before you before I very

876
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: hang up on me. The one tactical part of this

877
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: that us want to bring up is that I know

878
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: that the weird challenging our wide receivers, and I think

879
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: that's been a problem because they've been dropped balls and Eli,

880
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't his fault. But what Daniel Jones

881
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: does give with his mobility is that if he could

882
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: scramble a teeny bit, he could give our subpar receivers.

883
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Are the guys that have not been able to break

884
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: free in the time that Eli needed trying to scramble

885
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: around and possibly get Opener, possibly get uh Barkley open

886
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: after he gets free, or even Evan Ingram so that

887
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: I think that will have helped the offense. That part alone,

888
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that part seeing how that happens.

889
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: I think that's the one focal PLoP down here in Tampa.

890
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: When I'm at the game, I'm gonna be watching that

891
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: because I think he'll give more time for the receivers

892
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: to somehow get open. You know, you agree with that.

893
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but listen, if you looked at the receivers

894
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: last week, there was pretty much zero separation. Well, they

895
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: were also going up against the number one secondary in

896
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: the NFL last year and that carried over to this year.

897
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Not to make excuses, but I think the caliber of

898
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: the defense needs to be taken into consideration. I think

899
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: that's a fair point by Rick, and appreciate the phone

900
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: call in which you know Daniel Jones mobility And by

901
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: the way, Pat Sremer talked about this on Monday when

902
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: he addressed the media. You know, he was pressed upon

903
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: multiple questions with respect to the difference between Daniel Jones

904
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: and Eli Manning and said, yes, you know, Daniel Jones

905
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: clearly has more mobility and the ability to extend plays.

906
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not telling you anything that you don't know,

907
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: but Eli is going to tell you that. But it's

908
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: also up to That's half the battle, Russ. The other

909
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: part of the battle is the wide receivers winning their

910
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: one on one battle and getting open. To the point

911
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: of the callery, the quarterback can't make the wide receivers

912
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: win their battles. You know, that has to happen on

913
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: the opposite end of the offense here. You know, if anything,

914
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: what his legs could do, uh, if nothing else, extend

915
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: plays because of this grambling mobility. I mean, he can

916
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: run and he's a good runner. He's not He's not

917
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: a half ass runner. He's a good runner. Let's go

918
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: to Jeff in Rhode Island. Hello, Jeff, how are we

919
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: doing today? Good afternoon. Fella is kind of surprised by

920
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: the announcement today. But I just don't get the timing

921
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: of this, you know. I mean the plan was to

922
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: have Eli be the starter and the kids sit behind

923
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: him for the year. Unless see what I get hurt,

924
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: we'll played himself out of the position. And I don't

925
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: think after two games that he's played himself out of

926
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: the position. Obviously management doesn't agree with me. But no, Jeff, Jeff, no,

927
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your point, but I don't think

928
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: that I don't think management is disagreeing with you. The point,

929
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: the point being, I don't think Eli quote unquote played

930
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: himself out of the position. I don't think that's the case.

931
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: I think you look at the entire picture as Lands

932
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: brought out, there are a lot of other there are

933
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: other factors going into this. The team is owing to.

934
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: UH defense hasn't looked good. Uh. Your offense Listen, all

935
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: the receivers have, Golden Tate hasn't been in there for

936
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: last week, Sterling Shepard was out. I think it's a

937
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: case of this is where we are, and we now

938
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: have to start thinking about getting ready for the future

939
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: and also trying to win some games. I I agree

940
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: with all that. I believe me, I do, And you know,

941
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: maybe they should have done it at the end of

942
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: last season and they could have put all that money

943
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: uh that Eli took up in a cap space towards

944
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: improving the team. However they didn't do that. So now

945
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: going forward, we like Prancessor said the other day, and

946
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: I agree with this. You put a young and inexperienced

947
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback into a position on a lousy team. Well, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff,

948
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: let me let me step in here, Jeff Jeff. Well,

949
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: but Jeff Jeff, let me step in right here, Jeff, Jeff,

950
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: hold on, Jeff, Jeff. One second, one second here. Okay,

951
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: let's well, we'll let you continue. But let me just

952
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: counter what you're saying. If you look at the offensive

953
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: line right now, he's going to be playing behind an

954
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: established veteran offensive line. You could put rookies in far

955
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: worse circumstances than what Daniel Jones is going to play behind.

956
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: So I disagree with that viewpoint. Okay. David Carr, the

957
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: former Giants quarterback, when he started his career with the

958
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and he was a rookie, he was sacked

959
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: over seventy times. Okay, that's a horrendous situation to put

960
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: a young, inexperienced quarterback behind. That's not the giant situation.

961
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: He also has, say Kwon Barkley, and he's got a

962
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: number of wide receivers and Evan Ingram around him. So

963
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: anybody who wants to start that argument, I don't really

964
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: think he's looking at the facts of the current situation

965
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: of the foster you're there is he did we lose Jeff,

966
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: We lost him, Okay, And I wanted to Jeff to

967
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: continue to respond to him. No, no, but Again, a

968
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: young quarterback has to start sometime. You're not gonna wait

969
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: till he's an old quarterback. He's been being given the opportunity. Again, folks,

970
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: this is not quote unquote, this is not Eli Manning

971
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't play himself out of the position. Okay, this is

972
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: not what this is about. If you want to say

973
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: that you're wrong, that I will argue with all day.

974
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: It's not about that. It's about making a change. This

975
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: is when he was drafted. He was drafted as the future, which,

976
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: by the way, I also do get a kick out

977
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: of the fact that when Daniel Jones uh was drafted,

978
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: everybody was jumping all over the giants and jumping all

979
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: over gentleman, how do we draft this guy? You picked

980
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: this guy. You didn't pick Dwayne Askins but a beat bop.

981
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: We don't like this guy. Uh, what kind of pick

982
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: is this? Then he gets the camp and the same

983
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: people who are belly aching about that now wanting him

984
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: to be the starter right away. I can't have it

985
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: both ways. You're never gonna please everyone no circumstances. But

986
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: that was clearly the narrative in the media. It went

987
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: from how the hell can you pick this guy? To

988
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: why aren't you starting him now? Let's make the change now, which,

989
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: quite frankly, for lack of a better term, was extremely hypocritical.

990
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: Let's stay in Rhode Island and check in with author.

991
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: Hey author, how are you doing today? Well? I'm doing good.

992
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: First time caller. Welcome aboard, Thanks you tuning in, You're welcome. Well.

993
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm discouraged today. I thought

994
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: it was a little bit too early for Elien, but

995
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank you lie for his years

996
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: and I lead the big Blue hair up in New England.

997
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: I've put us the Giants every year, every week, excuse me,

998
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: and uh going back with fifty years as a Giants fan.

999
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: Hey author, author, I gotta ask you, you know, in

1000
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: New England, how did you become you know? Because you

1001
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: certainly do sound like in New England. I'm just curious,

1002
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: how did you become a big Blue fan up there?

1003
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: I just turned sixty and uh I got in when

1004
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: Fran talking to him was a quarterbacks frances as very

1005
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: talking to the University of Georgie. I just like the

1006
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: guy M deep deep to Homer. But uh, I'm disappointed.

1007
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: But you know what, we can't talk about if Daniel

1008
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: Jones is going to get hurt and stuff like that.

1009
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: You know, he's the quarterback now and let's see what happens.

1010
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: But I do have to say, guys about the defense,

1011
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm just sick and tired. I know we've got a

1012
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: young team. I'm just sick and tired of us giving

1013
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: up over four h points a year. Uh. That's why

1014
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Eli's has Uh he's gutting into a hole because the

1015
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: defense they get. I'm just a little bit nervous. Sorry, budd,

1016
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: take your time. He Eli just has to work so

1017
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: far behind that they fall back by fourteen one and

1018
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: it's just almost impossible to come back, and you have

1019
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: to throw the ball forty or five times. You know,

1020
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: we've got se Quon now, and let's just see what happens.

1021
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: The offensive line is is I think gonna be good.

1022
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: But as I said, just finishing up. You know, I'm

1023
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: a big, big, big finish as I've said, and I'll

1024
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: continue to watch him every every week. We got, we got,

1025
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: I got bumped off. Last week was the Patriots are

1026
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: on CBS. And when that happens, you know, I have

1027
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I got to go look at the computer and then

1028
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: put my radio on and but I'll continue to do so,

1029
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: and let's see what happened. Good for you, buddy, Thank

1030
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: you call again pal. There's a big Blue fan, I mean,

1031
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: especially up in New England country, that is a big

1032
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Blue fan. Real quickly, before we go back to the lines.

1033
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: You know, he was talking about the defense giving up

1034
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: a lot of points. Remember last year the Giants scored

1035
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: the most points in the NFC East, they also gave

1036
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: up the most points. That's why in order to be

1037
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: a playoff contender, you gotta have balance. I mean, those

1038
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: numbers have to come a little bit more closer together.

1039
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 1: It's no coincidence the Saints, you know, when they started

1040
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: to become a consistent playoff team for years, Drew Brees

1041
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: would light up the scoreboard, Russ and the Saints defense

1042
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: could not make a stop. And that's why the Saints

1043
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: were hovering around seven and nine for a number of years.

1044
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: They actually went seven and nine three years in a row.

1045
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: If you go back and you look at the stats,

1046
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: and then what changed, Well, the defense improved. Why did

1047
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: the Rams in New England go to the Super Bowl

1048
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: last year? Yes, you're gonna tell me. You love their

1049
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: offenses and they were prolific, and I would agree with you.

1050
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: I would also argue that those defenses were very effective

1051
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: in making stop So you know, you don't have to

1052
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: be a brain surgeon to understand why teams consistently make

1053
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs and others don't. The Giants need more balance

1054
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: and that's what obviously they're driving. You know what, Lance

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Speaker 1: just points you're making and you brought up something I

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Speaker 1: think we were talking at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're measuring a quarterback. Uh, you know

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Speaker 1: Ernie of Corsi, God bless him, and I love Ernie

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Speaker 1: terrific JM. Ernie's the guy who brought us. I know

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Speaker 1: this is gonna a tough day for for Ernie. Of

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Speaker 1: course you're watching this, but you know he brought us Eli.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Ernie would say, you gotta judge a guy.

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Speaker 1: Can he take you to the super Bowl? Well, in fact,

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Speaker 1: he took him to the Super Bowl and won two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls with that guy, you know, I mean, Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning took the Giants to two Super Bowls. And if

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about a quarterback not being judged

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Speaker 1: by a team's record, you know who you could look at.

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Speaker 1: You could look at Eli's dad, Archie, because folks, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you're old enough to remember all she

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Speaker 1: Manning was not a good quarterback. He was a tremendous talent.

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Speaker 1: He's also one of the best, arguably college quarterbacks ever

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Speaker 1: in the history of the game. He played on an

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Speaker 1: horrendous teams and he was always good. If he played

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Speaker 1: on a half decent team, he'd be a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame NFL quarterback. It is what it is. Just that

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Speaker 1: one call of that kind of bothered me. Eli didn't

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Speaker 1: play himself out of this, and the Giants aren't saying

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Speaker 1: that Eli played himself out of the starting position. You

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Speaker 1: look at the whole picture, you look at the future,

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Speaker 1: and this is the business at hand, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: take care of business. That's what it's about. Lands absolutely

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Speaker 1: So anyway, folks, listen, I know there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: emotion today, and understandably so it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about one of the great athletes, one of

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Speaker 1: the most great athletes, loved athletes to ever play in

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Speaker 1: the New York area. It's Eli Manning, So of course

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of emotion. But like anybody

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Speaker 1: else in the history of sports, people get replaced, somebody

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Speaker 1: else gets their job again. Just want to remind everybody

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