WEBVTT - Final Draft Predictions, Roster Needs | Bucs Insider 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.760 Welcome into Buccaneers inside Er Live, presented by Miller. Like 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.400 Casey Phillips, here was senior writer and editor Scott Smith, 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.880 and one week from today we will finally be knowing 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.800 some things about the draft. After months of prognosticating and 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.160 evaluating and talking about it, we're finally on the final 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:23.840 countdown here, So of course it's going to be a 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.720 very draft centered inside Er Live that we have here, 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:28.760 and any questions you have about that or anything else 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.320 with the Buccaneers you can put underneath our live video 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.519 on Facebook and the comments section. We'll get to those 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.159 in a few minutes, but for now, as we give 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.440 people a chance to do that. Jason Light spoke to 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.440 the media this week, the man of the hour, the 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.640 man everybody wants to know a thousand things from, but 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.000 the man who also will tell us very little about 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.520 what they're going to do on purpose. So from what 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.280 he get, what he was able to give you, guys, 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.120 were there anythings that you felt like gave you some nuggets, 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.520 some insights, something that you found interesting about what he said? 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.880 You got it right on the head there, that this 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.160 is an annual thing. Probably most teams do it. That 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.480 your general manager speaks before or the draft, and it's 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.640 an exercise in the media asking questions they hope he'll 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:10.200 talk about and him strategy. But he does talk I think, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.000 pretty candidly about some of his processes when it comes 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.199 to drafting. And you know, every He'll tell you every 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.959 every draft pick, even in the first round, is a 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.479 coin f lift there. There are a lot of them 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.280 are just not gonna work out. But to try to 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.880 increase your chances of success, there are a few things 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.160 he does and tries not to do. And one of 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.600 the big ones for Jason is never to push need 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.279 too high, is the way he put it, So don't. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.360 He's got his board set up, I need and best player, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.039 and what he wants most of all is for those 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.880 two to collide at the top. Whatever the players have 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.840 to the top both lists, and that's the perfect outcome. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.160 And um, that's what he's gonna try to do. So 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.960 let's just take, for an example, let's say the Buccaneers. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.160 He called him perceived needs, because he's clearly drawing a 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:54.920 LINEB team what everybody says our needs and what they 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.520 think our needs. Let's say a perceived need is edge 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.760 rusher and the you have a here of top five 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.760 of them there, and by the time it gets to you, 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.440 there are none of those left, and there's a bit 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.080 of a drop to the next here. But you've got 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.079 players at other positions that are higher on the board. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.160 Where you make your mistake and where your gret it 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.440 even a year from now, is when you just jumped 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.400 down to this guy at the position of need, of 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.880 greater need than anybody else, because if you think about it, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.360 at some point, with the way roster's turned over, you 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.760 can make a pick at any position and you're probably 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.120 gonna need it within a couple of years. Right, So 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.079 you got to think about right now, but you also 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.399 have him and I to the future. And it got 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.880 me to thinking about um a question we took a 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.560 couple of weeks ago about at twenty seven, are there 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.800 any positions where the Bucks could reasonably get the first 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.120 player off the board at that position? And I went 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.960 back and looked at all of Jason Light's eight draft 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.080 so far and who we took in the first round, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:45.640 and there have been a couple of times where we 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.080 have gotten the first guy at the position, and and 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.600 recently it's worked out quite well. You know, two eighteen 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.400 Vitave was the first interior defensive lineman, got him at twelve. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.480 Devon White the next year at five, the first off 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.720 ball linebacker. But it doesn't always work out that way. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.880 And I think the best example there as Tristan Worf's. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.919 There was two years ago there were four players that 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.280 everybody gets their blue chip tackles, to the point where 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.480 when there were three of them were gone and we 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.799 were sitting in four team, we traded up. We gave 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.200 up a fourth round pick just to move up in 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.240 one spot to make sure we got the last one. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.680 He was the last one left. He wasn't necessarily lest one. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.679 We're born. As we know, Tristan Worse worked out really 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.440 really well. Yeah, and that can be the difference in 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.240 how deep a draft is at a certain position where 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.640 you know, there were four that teams thought were worth drafting, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.640 no matter where it was in that first round. But 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.320 they're gonna be years and positions where you really only 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.400 want the first guy, or you know, maybe it's a 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.480 bit huge difference between the first and the fourth. And 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.280 so that's going to be interesting to see how that 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.360 will work this year and in terms of looking at 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.160 the first three rounds or so first four rounds of particularly, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.920 we know everybody likes to focus on Thursday, but I 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.320 think that we can all definitely trust that process Jason 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.000 light was talking about because in his tenure here they 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.040 have done pretty well, especially those those first few rounds. Yeah, 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.800 that was another bit of I think, concrete bit of 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:02.080 information that Jason gave us yes or on Tuesday. Uh. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.560 And I think a lot of people feel this way 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.080 about this draft. It's not a particularly top heavy draft. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.040 There aren't a whole lot of guys, you know, must 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.839 go in the top five. There's a lot of disagreement 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.760 about where some guys that like defensive end ed rusher 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.359 in what order they're gonna go in. Uh. And Jason 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.240 said there may not be thirty guys that they have 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.000 a first round grade on this year, so you know, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.520 it's it's kind of scraping a little bit there to 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.120 to at the end of the first round. But he 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.520 says he does think this is a good deep draft 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.760 in terms of mid round picks, that when you're picking 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.640 in the second, the third, and fourth round, there are 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.279 gonna be quality guys there and those are very important picks. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.200 I mean, look at this, this is just the last 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.960 since two thousand seventeen, players that the Bucks have picked 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.640 in the second, third, or fourth round that became really 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.599 core players for the Buccaneers and that Super Bowl team 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.520 and the one that went thirteen and four last year. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.000 A couple of have taken that success, unfortunately for the 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.719 Bucks and moved on, like Alex Kappa and Jordan Whitehead. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.160 But those guys, right, there were key players, key core guys. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:01.960 That's how what the team was built on. I mean, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.520 I know we brought in Tom Brady obviously, but that team, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.280 even with Tom Brady, probably doesn't win the Super Bowl 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.960 if you weren't hitting on mid round picks. And those 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.120 picks are probably gonna be especially important this year in 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.280 the Bucks pick at sixty in the third round, and 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.120 I don't remember the exact number the fourth round pick, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:18.840 but yes, we're all gonna be a focused on first 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.040 round pick, but these middle round picks are gonna be key. Yeah, 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.560 that is going to be huge, and I think that's 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.400 also why some people have wondered if maybe the Bucks 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:25.760 will try to trade down. So this is going to 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.799 be a little plug for our road to the draft 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.760 that we're going to shoot right after this that will 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.080 come out later so that everybody can hear a little 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.479 bit more about our theories on trading up, trading back, 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.520 how likely that could be. And so definitely tune into 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.400 the next in our final road to the draft that 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.520 will be shooting after this. So I know that we 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.200 in the past have talked about one of the potential 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.200 positions you saw the Bucks looking at was defensive line, 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.440 and it just turned out that Jason Light got asked 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.680 about that. So did that give you any information? Yeah, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.280 I think the reason he was asked is because I'm 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.839 not the only one who's been mocked drafting defensive linemen 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.640 like Davante Wyatt, for example, to the Buccaneers. It's a 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.360 common thing you'll see in mock drafts because it is 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.280 a position where it could be some value left at 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.560 the end of the first round and uh and and 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.640 the Buccaneers are potentially losing a couple of players there. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.640 Jason Lights answered that the question was he brought a 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.880 Vita Veay and Will Gholston and Nacho Rakeine roaches and 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.680 said they like some of the young guys too, like 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:22.240 maybe he means Benning, Pat uh Kobe Smith, maybe Patrick 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.360 O'Connor who just resigned. And those are all good points, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.560 but you still you look at this in Dominican Sue 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.600 and Steve McClinton. If they don't return, that's about what 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.480 that's about. Eleven snaps. That's a lot of snaps lot 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.200 decluding the playoffs, that's a lot of snaps replaced. And 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.640 if you don't think Benning pot Away or Patrick O'Connor 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.680 is going to step up and take another five hundred snaps, 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.120 which you know, I don't think you can predict that 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.200 confidently right, then you probably do need some more. Now, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.760 Jason's point was the draft isn't the only way to 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.560 get There's still more free agency. There's undrafted fre agency, 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.520 there's trades. You specifically mentioned how the trade deadline didn't 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.640 happen until you know, months and months from now, and 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.360 and he did trade for Stephen Clinton a couple of 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.720 years ago. So that's a very good point. And he's right, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.760 the Buccaneers are not gonna be painted into a corner 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.160 at the end of the first round or in the 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.760 second round or whatever to take an interior defensive alignment. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.360 That being said, you can still see the logic why 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.760 if they need and the best player intersect that would 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.520 be a great pick for Buccaneers. Well, and we're gonna 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.600 get into the Facebook questions now, and you mentioned trades, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.040 So I think Chris Ell is how you say this name, Chrissell? 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.360 So do you think the Bucks will try to trade 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.960 for Deebo Samuel? I knew that. I knew that question 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.680 was the people in the office. As soon as that 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.960 came out, I'm like the first question and turned out 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.280 to be the first question is going to be, well, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:36.520 the Bucks trade for Deeviel Samuel. You know, I can't 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.920 help I have to bring up that since the Super 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.440 Bowl year and uh and last year too, that things 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.960 you would consider implausible. You know you can when Leonard 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.920 Fournett was cut, the Buck is gonna get learned from that. Well, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.480 I don't know about that, you know, Gronk all the 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.320 Antonio Brown that said, So, I won't dismiss it, right, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.680 And and Deebel Samuel is a great player and you 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.559 could use a lot of different stuff in the offense 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.000 with him. I'm sure Tom Brady would love Dad Deebo Samuel. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.160 But you've got to consider the Bucks cap spaces nearly 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.360 minimal at this point. Um, they they probably aren't going 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.120 to sign anybody else else until after the draft, and 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.640 it would be very difficult financially, and I know you 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.640 can make it happen there there's always a way to 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.440 work with the cap, but you're it's not easy, and 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.320 you're you're hurting yourself down the road a little bit. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.840 And so if there's any position in which the Bucks 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.760 would take on another like eighteen to twenty million dollar player, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.880 it's hard to see it being a wide receiver when 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.959 you already paying Mike Evans and Chris god when the time. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.000 So I don't think it's likely. I think there's a 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.679 lot more likely landing spots if he has traded, But 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.840 I guess never say never, Never say never, are right? 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.400 And then our next one, Daniel asked, do you think 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.600 that we're going to have more offensive or defensive picks 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.680 in the draft? I think defensive. I think, um, the 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.520 only way that well we have We only have six 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.240 picks and two of them are in the seventh round, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.440 and I challenge anybody pretty quite positions they're gonna take 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.439 with two of the last tin picks draft, right, Um, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.679 so of the first four, one in each four rounds. Actually, 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.320 it could be pretty even because I could see us 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.120 at some point taking an offensive guard or or an 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.480 offensive tackle, and I could also see us taking a 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.200 running back or a tight end. So this is a 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:16.720 bit of a cop out answer, but I think it 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.680 could be pretty even in those first four, like maybe 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.920 a defensive lineman, maybe a quarterback, a tied in an 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.960 offensive lineman. I can see that happening. And I'm not 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.560 gonna make any guesses as to what you're gonna pick 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.880 with pick number two, right, Yeah, that's a very good point. Um. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:34.560 And then we had Christina asked any news on JPP No, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.920 and Um, again, I think the Buccaneers have gone through 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.840 most of what they're gonna do in free agency. I 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.000 think obviously the big question marks still out there are 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:47.920 Rob Gronkowski and Domincnsue, especially Rob Gronkowski as one we 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.400 all think is the most likely to return. Um. Yeah, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.200 there's no news on that, and I don't really think 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.480 I'm expecting any. Okay, And then our final one, we 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.440 kind of talked about this, but Chad wanted to know 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.360 do you go after a Titan later in the raft 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.560 and then anywhere on groun kits. So I think part 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.160 of this is also if we were to draft to 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:05.880 tight end, where do you think in the draft that 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.360 might happen. It depends on how important of a need 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.800 the Buccaneers think that is. Because we're and we're gonna, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.080 like you said, we're gonna talk about trade scenarios in 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.120 the next in our next road to the draft here 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.240 in a minute, um, But if you were, if you 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.240 were to think that's like one of their top needs 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.760 on their board, then I could see it like a 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.120 trade down. You won't find a mock draft that has 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:26.760 a tight end in the first round. Went through twenty 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.800 of them in five minutes yesterday. Couldn't find a single 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.960 tight end. But the consensus top tight end is Trade 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.360 McBride of Colorado State. And one of the reasons why 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.520 he is at the top is he's already a good 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.400 pass catcher who's a big guy who they think can 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.040 be a blocker. So he can be that kind of 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.680 rare to way tight end like a Rob Gronkowski that 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.439 you're trying to find, and that guy could get down 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.480 the field right away and two tight ends instead's even 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.559 if Rob Gronkowski is here, and he could be a 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.240 very important player. If Rob Gronkowski is not here, So 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.000 if the Buccaneers were to maybe trade back, it might 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.880 need it could be a second round target, but there's 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.840 enough depth in the middle rounds of that position, like 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.560 a Kay Dot and or a Gelanni Walker, that the 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.040 Bucaneers could get a guy in a third or fourth round. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.679 So if our if our guests and I would think 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.440 they go somewhere else with their first pick, but a 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.120 Titan could be possible in the second, third round. All right, Well, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.360 that is going to do it for us on this 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.360 edition of Buccaneers Insider Live presented by Miller Lte. 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