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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, welcome to the Give Them the Law

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Speaker 1: podcast where She's not here, but we are.

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Speaker 2: We are in Who is we? Easton?

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Speaker 3: Were Burningham?

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Speaker 1: No one will I put myself on the back all

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Speaker 1: the time because Gigi won't do it for me.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Gig, how was your weekend with Gigi and Law?

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Speaker 2: I saw you guys had family in town.

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Speaker 1: Yea brother, sister in law, niece, nephew, and it was

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Speaker 1: good family time.

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Speaker 3: When shoe shopping with my nephew, it's a what is

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Speaker 3: it called? Now, I'm drawing a blank.

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Speaker 1: It's a burger place, shake shack. No, it's like easy

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Speaker 1: something easy Street or something. Okay, it was like a

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Speaker 1: top tier burger.

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Speaker 3: But ye done nothing slaps like burger.

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Speaker 2: She wrote, that's right as you can hear.

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Speaker 3: Please welcome Eli and Calvin.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to snap for quiet snap, thank you,

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Speaker 1: but please introduce yourself.

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Speaker 4: Who are you do your thing?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 5: My name is Calvin Cobb and I am a fan

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Speaker 5: of Burger, She wrote, We have specified here. You might

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Speaker 5: have seen me on season two of Love Island us A.

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Speaker 5: I am absolutely ecstatic to be here.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you for joining us. Thank you for taking

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Speaker 3: time out of your day to do this with me,

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Speaker 3: of course.

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Speaker 2: What about you, sir?

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Speaker 4: What about me?

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Speaker 3: Sir?

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Speaker 4: Hello everybody, my name is Eli. You have not seen

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Speaker 4: me on Love Island?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you might please put his resume in a.

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Speaker 4: Few times every season Survivor as well. Somebody put me

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Speaker 4: on something scratch, there you go, so you wouldn't see

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Speaker 4: me on that. But my name is Eli. Live in

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Speaker 4: la for a minute, so you might see me bouncing around.

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Speaker 4: I did watch your episode though, yesterday for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's Moira Squirman.

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Speaker 4: Throw in that seat. I mean, there's no spoilers, right,

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Speaker 4: this is years ago.

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Speaker 3: This is this is years ago. I mean COVID that's

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Speaker 3: a popidemic. I need to do in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I need to watch Love Island. I'm gonna do my

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Speaker 2: personal intro of these three just so you guys know.

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Speaker 2: So I love the three of you. I love these

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Speaker 2: three guys because I know Eli because he worked across

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Speaker 2: the hall from us when we were over at our

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Speaker 2: other offices in West Hollywood. I know Calvin through Easton

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Speaker 2: and these three guys are like, I'm gonna talk to

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Speaker 2: little ladies for a second. If you ladies know how

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Speaker 2: men can be, but these three are very I just

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Speaker 2: like their friendship because they're not afraid to be like vulnerable,

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Speaker 2: and they're honest and they're such chill people to hang around.

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Speaker 2: And I know we said that on the podcast Stories

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Speaker 2: and we posted for you, for all of you men

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Speaker 2: and women to ask them questions and I'm very excited

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Speaker 2: for them to answer. So all of this to say,

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Speaker 2: I'm very happy you three are hon It's like a trio.

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Speaker 1: That's why we I think I'll get along with each

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Speaker 1: other is because we're honest.

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Speaker 4: With each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not afraid to say anything that's not that.

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Speaker 1: Everything on my mind is said. Good cry we hugged right,

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Speaker 1: we really do.

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Speaker 3: Is it.

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Speaker 5: We're grateful for you as well being here. Thank you,

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Speaker 5: thank you for having us joining, Thank you La La.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, but the weekend was good. Law is doing amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, her, she's the We had ocean and a babysitter

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Speaker 2: How old is London? London? Is you guys? I know

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Speaker 2: everyone was shocked being like, wait, Lala has a sister

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Speaker 2: in laws, Easton married. Easton is not married.

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Speaker 3: Yet but now not yet yet.

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Speaker 2: It's their older brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's my half brother. It's my brother from

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Speaker 1: my dad's first marriage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she was in she was That's a perfect

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie to you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: They've grown up quick and I have no idea. My

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Speaker 2: Wait, London. And there's a brother, Drayson, Drayson Okay, his

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Speaker 2: birthday was Friday. Yeah, you guys went to saddle Ranch.

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Speaker 3: Saddle Ranch.

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Speaker 1: Probably couldn't ride the bull. You had to be eighteen,

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Speaker 1: But you can be hammered as shit.

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Speaker 3: You have to be eighteen to rive seem to ride

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Speaker 4: Injured, eighteen to get hammered a shit too.

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Speaker 1: No, but like you can ride it twenty one and

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Speaker 1: hammered as hell. It's like, why do you sixteen and sober?

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Speaker 1: I trust more than twenty one and a drunk dude

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Speaker 2: That's true, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We draw the line these days? Where do we draw

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Speaker 2: Have either of you el Calvin ever been to Saddle Ranch?

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Speaker 2: You guys go out a lot. Tell us about your

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Speaker 3: I have missed her out.

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Speaker 4: He is, he is late got Honestly, I've been a

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Speaker 4: little too out. The summer's been a bit much.

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Speaker 3: But it's good.

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Speaker 4: I've been to Saddle Ranch.

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Speaker 2: I have you have?

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Speaker 3: I have?

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Speaker 2: How many times give us a ballpark in your life?

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Speaker 3: Not that many?

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Speaker 4: Maybe like six?

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Speaker 4: Okay, is that a lot conservative. I've read the bull

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Speaker 4: maybe twice successfully.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hand up?

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Speaker 4: Hand up? We ass on the ground, hand back up,

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Speaker 4: asked back on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's one thing.

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Speaker 1: We saw some girl with no strength in any part

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Speaker 2: Tips, Oh yeah, she.

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Speaker 1: Just would fly down. She smacked her head on the

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Speaker 1: she couldn't get back up. So the bull would flip

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Speaker 3: Like she smacked her face so hard. Me and law

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Speaker 3: were dying. We did I didn't look.

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Speaker 1: I was too busy laughing, and I didn't want to

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Speaker 4: It's not about how many times you smack your face

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Speaker 4: in the bowl, how many times you get up?

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Speaker 2: Baby?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Have you ridden the bull? Calvin?

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Speaker 3: I've been one time, Saddle Ranch, and I have not.

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Speaker 2: I have somebody maybe had a little too many drinking

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Speaker 3: Actually sober.

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Speaker 5: And it was it was no, this was this had

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Speaker 3: So that's why the memory is.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: You knew that Combin Easton, Yeah, I knew he lived here,

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Speaker 1: then moved to Atlanta and then moved here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's the Midden.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Maryland here now right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah this guy? Yeah, how long have you lived here?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Can thank you so much?

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Speaker 4: I've been here for a decade, decade six times. It's

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Speaker 4: Saddle Ranch.

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Speaker 2: Are you yes? Are all three of you single?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Novin is going to be a good which has got

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Speaker 1: some answers because he'll be the relationship guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold On also just hit six months ahead, six

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Speaker 2: months what relationship? Congratulations you thank you?

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Speaker 4: Trying to get like you.

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Speaker 2: Bro Okay, back at it.

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Speaker 3: So happy six months, Happy six months, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am single. I just got out of a

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Speaker 2: Thing, situationship.

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Speaker 4: I feel weird saying situationship in my old ass age

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was like a ghost relationship. I had no idea

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Speaker 4: She went to another school, so you guys don't know

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 4: But otherwise single, but it was tough. That was like

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Speaker 4: a That was the longest thing I've had in many years, actually,

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Speaker 4: that four month really? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh so you're you're not a long term relationship guy?

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Speaker 2: Or are you? And just haven't been in a while.

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Speaker 4: I haven't had a girlfriend in about ten years since

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Speaker 4: I've moved to La.

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Speaker 2: Why why do you think?

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Speaker 4: I don't know? We should dive into that today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's exciting.

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Speaker 3: I think you might need a therapist around for that one,

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Speaker 3: are you guys?

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Speaker 4: You guys offer that? I haven't sure we can?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think we're here for?

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Speaker 3: I can do my best. I'm not a voice of reason, though.

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Speaker 2: How long have you been single?

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Speaker 3: I've been single for I think like four years now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do we enjoy being single? And I say we,

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Speaker 2: because I too am single, So this is do we

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Speaker 2: enjoy this?

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Speaker 4: It's perks.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I like going throughout the day

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Speaker 1: not having to like entertain something uh huh something.

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Speaker 3: He says someone.

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Speaker 4: The pressure for someone's emotions, that's actions can sometimes be

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Speaker 4: a lot if you're not fully in it, right. But

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Speaker 4: it's nice to have a person, you know, it's nice

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Speaker 4: to have your person.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you're saying fully in it. I've never been in

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Speaker 1: fully in it and since my last one, but I.

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Speaker 3: Like i've been. I've talked to girls, but I've never

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Speaker 3: felt like fully in it.

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Speaker 2: But don't you think that's dating? You know what I'm

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Speaker 2: you guys wrote in so many questions, are you okay

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Speaker 2: for us to get Let's just get in because I

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Speaker 2: want to hear all three of your own damn advice,

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Speaker 2: your opinion.

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Speaker 1: And before we get into these questions, let's get a

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Speaker 1: quick up day from Lalla.

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Speaker 6: Hello, my loves. I miss you guys so so much.

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Speaker 6: Here is an update on life postpartum with baby Sosa.

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Speaker 6: We're getting hungry again. My life consists of feeding, burping,

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, and we can't wait for you to

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my gosh, you guys, I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and you.

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Speaker 2: It completely, Okay, do you have any regrets?

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Speaker 4: This is very fresh, This is a couple weeks old,

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Speaker 4: It's tough losing someone you know after four months. It's

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Speaker 3: What were you not ready for?

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Speaker 4: Just had a lot of stuff going on in my

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Speaker 2: I think that was a very honest and respectable answer.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. How about you, Colvin, what do

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love that. Okay, you guys,

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Speaker 4: I cried for the first time in like ten years

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Speaker 4: What crying is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Can you care for some deeply? I can't really breathe

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: I've cried on this podcast.

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Speaker 4: Nobody makes good emotion tears. But when I did, it

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Speaker 2: You'd be crying. Calvin, could you me.

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Speaker 3: All the time? Could you repeat the question please? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Could a sentence?

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Speaker 3: Why be sad? Broad a good shower?

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Speaker 5: I also think that it has something to do with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I think that there's obviously it's

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Speaker 2: because he said, like he cheated, So I was like, okay,

452
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: so this guy cheats when like that's it's so tricky

453
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 2: because like he did cheat, but he was saying how

454
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 2: he was growing, and so then when he would go

455
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: on tour and stuff, I was insecure and I'd be like, yeah,

456
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 2: but you cheat, like you told me you cheated before.

457
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 2: What if you cheat again? And we ended up breaking

458
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: up because a lot of things. I just I did that,

459
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: like I did weaponize. He was trying to be honest,

460
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 2: and so I do think at the end of the day,

461
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: I mean, we weren't meant to be for sure, but

462
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it is better to

463
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 2: be honest. And like you said, like, yeah, it can

464
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 2: be used against you. And but like being honest, being vulnerable,

465
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: being emotional. I definitely appreciate now more than I ever have.

466
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 4: I think for sure, keeping things hidden is never going

467
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 4: to help long term. No, it might make things easier

468
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 4: in the beginning, and it might make like this facade

469
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 4: of like everything being chill, but like down the line,

470
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 4: it's going to come out regardless.

471
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: But then you have to be all right with whatever

472
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: you're told to forgive.

473
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, or just taken into account. Well, okay, yeah

474
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 5: that do I want to be with someone that has

475
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 5: cheat in the past, you know.

476
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: That's very true. That's why a lot of couples therapists say,

477
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: like when couples go and I just know this because

478
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: mine and Kyle's couples therapists said this, when couples go

479
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 2: to a therapy for cheating. If you this is a

480
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: lot of them, not every but it's like, when you

481
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: choose to forgive the cheating, you have to move on.

482
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 2: You cannot keep going back because it's like then it

483
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: just becomes toxic, you know. Okay, So there are a

484
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: ton of questions like this. This is the most recent

485
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: one up top, but basically, can men and women be friends?

486
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 2: This says can a female and male both married with

487
00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: children actually be best friends? So my overarch in question

488
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: for all all three of you, can men and women

489
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: truly be best friends?

490
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: I think so sexual.

491
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: I think though, it's when you've had sex and you're

492
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: best friends with them.

493
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: I can't get by that.

494
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: Like my if I was dating a girl and her

495
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: best friend was a guy, but they had even one

496
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: time they slept together, I can't get behind that.

497
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: Okay, even a drunken night, MISSA can't.

498
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: Who's to say they're not going to get drunk again

499
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: hanging out with each other as best friends and it's

500
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: going to happen again or they were.

501
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: She was like Easton, I regretted it so much. I'm

502
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: like disgusted.

503
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

504
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: And that's for me mentally, I don't think I could

505
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: get by it because that would eat me alive. Even

506
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: if it was she didn't, Yeah, it would eat me alive.

507
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: So I have to dismiss myself from it. Yeah, so I.

508
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: Think you can. For me, you can be a best

509
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: friend with opposite sex. But I think there's a line

510
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: that I have, and it's not having a past with

511
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: that best friend.

512
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: And that's about you know about yourself. That's great to

513
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: have for you.

514
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: It is.

515
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: I do feel that Eli may have a different opinion,

516
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: but do you or do you not? Eli?

517
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: My best friend is a girl. You guys all know her.

518
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: Yes, she's great.

519
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 4: Her name is Jill. Shout out Jill. And so I

520
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: think I have lots of female friends, and I think

521
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: it is so super normal and totally healthy to have

522
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 4: female friends. I know that that's hard to be. Like

523
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 4: I meet people when I tell them I'm friends with

524
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: the girls, and they're like bullshit, like that you want

525
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 4: to fuck them or they want to fuck you, and

526
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: like that can happen for sure. But I think it's

527
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 4: totally reasonable to have good friends that are women.

528
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: That's fine with me.

529
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: Have I want my girlfriend to have many of guy friends,

530
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: not a guy best friend, sure in my opinion.

531
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: And that's just me and the insecurity thing of having

532
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: your girlfriend with the best friend that she's at sex with, Like,

533
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: that's valid.

534
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: That's that's my that's my line, and that is.

535
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: Like a lot of times people ask me like, so me,

536
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: I'm this, We'll skip okay.

537
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: So it is valid that people get you know, insecure

538
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 2: about that for sure. But that's good to know like,

539
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: that's your boundary, and you could also be like, well

540
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: that's my boundary. Not everyone has to have that.

541
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's fine. You can still have that as

542
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: a best friend. I'm not going to take your best friend.

543
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to dismiss myself from this situation, right.

544
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: Can I ask you Eli before we ask you Calvin

545
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: the same question? Has there ever been in the years

546
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: of you being friend? Because I'm someone who is very

547
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 2: much has been best friends with guys I mean jiu

548
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: jitsu for crying out loud like and I also am

549
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: currently I feel best friends with Kyle, and I hope

550
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: it stays that way. So have you ever been able

551
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: to and obviously we don't need to be specific hook

552
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: up with just like fun hookups with your girlfriends and

553
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: then be like, Okay, that was fun and carry on

554
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: as friends.

555
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 4: What I don't do that?

556
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: Okay?

557
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: I very much like when I meet someone, they're either

558
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: in a friendship bucket or a romantic bucket. And people

559
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 4: that go into the romantic bucket they can easily after

560
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: that that's done become friends again. But when I've placed

561
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 4: them into the friendship bucket, they don't then go to

562
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 4: a romantic bucket and like, I'm not someone that like

563
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: I need like an immediate attraction. I need like immediately

564
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: be like I'm into you, and so like once we're

565
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: friends for me. And I know most people won't want

566
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 4: to hear this, but like, I don't unfriend zone people

567
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 4: into a romantic situation.

568
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so like I feel like I do. Oh

569
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: my god, I do in that freak.

570
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: College Yeah, but I yeah, but your mine, I'm possessive.

571
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: I think it's easier, like one one at a time,

572
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: one at a time, please too.

573
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 4: I think it's easier for women to grow and gain

574
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: affection towards a male friend than it is for me

575
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: to all of a sudden see a friend and be like,

576
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 4: you know what.

577
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: Actually really, but I can't hook up with a girl

578
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: and then know she's hooking up with other guys and

579
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: still hook.

580
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: Up with her.

581
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 3: A lot of I think that's I'm like, yeah, that's yeah, well.

582
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: See Eli or Calvin Chicken has had no your friend.

583
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: And I.

584
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: Think that it can't. I think there's a couple factors here.

585
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: I think that if it's like a long term friendship

586
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: from childhood, like almost brothers sister, right, and you know,

587
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 5: nothing's ever happened, and they're just buddy buddy, and I

588
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: know the question was talking about being married and stuff

589
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 5: like that. Absolutely, I think they can be really really

590
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 5: close friends. If I would probably be in the vein

591
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 5: of Easton if there has been something in the past

592
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 5: they suck together or something like that. No matter what

593
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 5: the circumstances, it is harder for me to get behind that.

594
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: And what they did isn't wrong, like that's not yeah,

595
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: Like that's fine.

596
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 5: Especially if you weren't even in the picture or something

597
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 5: like that. But I can't get by yeah, And that's

598
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 5: something I think that kind of what Eli's talking about

599
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 5: is regardless moving forward in those relationships, there needs to

600
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 5: be firm boundaries set of like, hey, we're friends. And

601
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 5: I think that if it's like if Eli's single, it

602
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 5: doesn't really matter too much if he does have a

603
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 5: girl best friend or not. But if he gets into

604
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 5: a relationship with a girl, then in my opinion, that

605
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: relationship would need to be not reassessed but readjusted and say,

606
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 5: you know, if I'm dating someone, then I'm going to

607
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 5: be that main person or that priority in their life.

608
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, one hundred percent supersede the friendship

609
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: for sure.

610
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: I'd like to add that I'm very aware that male

611
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: and female friendships can be problematic towards relationships, and I'm

612
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: very happy and grateful that my best friend that we

613
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: have never engaged in any type of romance or sexual intimacy,

614
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: because I already know that when I do get a

615
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 4: girlfriend who turned into a wife one day, like, that's

616
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: already going to be a pain point. The fact that

617
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 4: my best friend's a girl, Like I know that I'm

618
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: aware of that, and so being able to like look

619
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 4: at my girl and say, like, we've never slept slept together,

620
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: like that's fucking huge, huge, And it would be a

621
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: much more difficult pill to swallow for her if I

622
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah her, Yeah, we used to speak.

623
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, best friends.

624
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: Right right? What else we got you, guys? This is

625
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: a good one again. Same opinion on porn, how it's

626
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: affecting the modern men's sex life.

627
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: I feel like it's.

628
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: Ruining the girls are watching the porn, and it's ruining

629
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: it for I can't give what you're looking at in porn.

630
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: Okay, we're watching it. I just need to get off.

631
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm expecting you guys to go ape

632
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: shit in the bedroom.

633
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: So, but you guys are the fucking ones ruining it

634
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: for us. You got fucking fifteen inch dildos, you got.

635
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, dudes with eight packs, twelve packs, and

636
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm over here like I just look good, but.

637
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't packing that. So the women are ruining it.

638
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 2: So you think women are watching porn and expecting you

639
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: to look and perform like these male actors, I don't, yes, actors, yes,

640
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: and you got it like that? Okay, I okay, So

641
00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: you you don't expect when you're with a woman in

642
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: the bedroom some sort of performance, or you haven't watched

643
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: porn and then hooked up with a woman and she.

644
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: Is your body and it doesn't need to be great.

645
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be there, Okay, Okay, I'm just

646
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: happy to be there.

647
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: Do you think have you ever been with a woman

648
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: that you were like, oh, she's very much faking this enthusiasm,

649
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: whether or not, it's.

650
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Pretty sure every time. Yeah, there's no way I'm bottoming out.

651
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: We all know.

652
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's say, I know.

653
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: But thank you for letting me be a part of

654
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: of your body of the bed. Yeah, okay, part of

655
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: the party, you too.

656
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: I think the accessibility to porn, combined with the ability

657
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: for a younger generation to be on dating apps and

658
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: stay away from actual interactions with human women in real life,

659
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: has probably had a bad effect on allowing kids growing

660
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: up to be like just to not know what's real

661
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: and to know what's fake. Just like to not have

662
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: these physical and like real interactions and intimate relationship with women,

663
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: for sure, is going to hold people to not really

664
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: understand how to deal with these irl interactions. I think

665
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: porn as well as like, I think the younger generation

666
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: just with all like the Andrew taits and these like streamers,

667
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: sneak o and all these people that like talk poorly

668
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: about women, have almost as bad of an effect on

669
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: their mindset as the actual literal porn, which has been

670
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: around like forever, Like you know, finding playboys in your dad.

671
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: I know, I was finding playboys in my dad's closet

672
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: and on huh, good, look at them, drop them and leave,

673
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, nice? Nice, But if they really they really

674
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: do they listen to these people and they like start

675
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: emulating how they were speaking about women too.

676
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: And like all like calling women's sluts and for just

677
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: like like body count conversations is so stupid and toxic.

678
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: But like the youth like grow up on this. Like

679
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: I feel bad for women that need to date these

680
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 4: younger kids, right, the younger generation who have to date

681
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: these boys who like don't really understand life. You know,

682
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: all they see is just be like she's had sex

683
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: three people? No, right, It's like I'd prefer experienced woman.

684
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's free.

685
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: I don't think sex is bad. I'm just gonna say

686
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 4: we'll dive into that a little bit.

687
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: It's like you've read the questions.

688
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: Bad sex bad? Okay, great? Is there has there ever

689
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 2: been Have you ever found yourself in a time in

690
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: life where it's been like you have been maybe consuming

691
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: porn and then you like maybe at the beginning of

692
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: having sex, and then you start to experience women and

693
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, it's not necessarily like what I've been

694
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: watching or no, do you have a good relationship with that?

695
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 4: Not me personally again, I think I'm a little older,

696
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: but like I haven't watched porn in maybe five months

697
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: or so at this point, potentially because I was in

698
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: this relationship or a situationship whatever you want to call

699
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: in which just wasn't really necessary a very healthy sex life.

700
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: And like the other day, I was like, am I

701
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: gonna have to start there?

702
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: You are?

703
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: Let you know you're gonna be watching portant buddy. Yeah,

704
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: you ready to get the fingers type? And I want

705
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: you it's been a week for me. Families in town.

706
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: You gotta I want you to answer. Calvin and I

707
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: have a follow up question on.

708
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: Porn, Okay, I I would definitely say that I feel

709
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: that porn has had a negative impact on just the

710
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 5: stigma around sex as it is, especially in a Western,

711
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: a Western civilization, sex is something that is not openly

712
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: talked about as much as like European countries or stuff

713
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 5: like that, and so people go to the Internet to

714
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: try and find especially when you're younger, trying to find

715
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: some answers or something, Yeah, some answers of what this is.

716
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: And then a lot of times.

717
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: Like you know, saying it it.

718
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 5: It affects the confidence of an individual to have meaningful

719
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 5: intimate interactions, whether it's having a conversation with a girl

720
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 5: or just you know, being in in the bedroom. And

721
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: I think that it definitely you look at it from

722
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: a scientific standpoint, the dopamine and all the different negative

723
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: effects that it has on our brain is definitely damaging.

724
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 5: And so I think even to his point of, you know,

725
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 5: it's been five months, I think that especially when you

726
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 5: are in a healthy relationship, that that hopefully would not

727
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: be present the same time, I'm not here to tell

728
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: someone do or don't watch porn or what you want

729
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 5: to do in between your you know yourselves, but I

730
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: do think that that should be something that should be

731
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 5: openly talked about in a relationship.

732
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good. I think as a woman, we a lot

733
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: of us women just because I've had these conversations with

734
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: my friends, have watched it, especially when we first had sex,

735
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: and we're like, how is it supposed to look? And

736
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: it's it's almost been like, oh, you're supposed to perform,

737
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be this, and you're supposed to make

738
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: these noises. Once I finally and like late twenty started

739
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: getting in touch with my sexuality and like, okay, what

740
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: am I supposed to feel? What do I and really

741
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: not focusing on like performance and more like what do

742
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: I like? What is my partner like? Then you start

743
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: then it's way more enjoyable and it doesn't look like

744
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes if you're having a wild night, it

745
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: can look like the porn.

746
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: But like I read have did you ever watch it

747
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: with your partner? Like my ex and I used to

748
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: watch porn and be like all right, let's try.

749
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah I never turned out the same, but boy did

750
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: we give an effort.

751
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: What about like making your own porn and watching that

752
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: with a partner because.

753
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: That's a good time, that's fun, which is well, it

754
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: will get it cam Cord. Yeah, so yeah, I think

755
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: that for me, I've said it on the podcast before.

756
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a big fan of porn only

757
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: because now being thirty three, I watch it and my

758
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 2: first thought is like, I hope that woman is doing

759
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: it out of choice and like she's happy, and if

760
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: she makes just like one out of it, yeah, like

761
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: one sad. Look, I'm like, oh, someone needs.

762
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: To get I know.

763
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes yeah, so I'm watching porn.

764
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just like.

765
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: A house in the valley. I don't know, I can't

766
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: really tell where it is.

767
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: Last last thing I will say about that, I do

768
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: feel that now more than ever, it definitely has the industry.

769
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 5: The sex industry has definitely allowed individuals that do want

770
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: to participate a more a safer place to do that

771
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: and to you know, whether it's through only fans or

772
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 5: whether it's through I'm not shouting out any you know,

773
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 5: sites or anything, but like to be able to do

774
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: your own content and do stuff within your own comfort

775
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 5: and like to your point of, well, I hope she's

776
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 5: all right and she's not doing this out of you know, Oh,

777
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 5: I have to like it allows them that ability to

778
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: do it on their own.

779
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

780
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great point. Okay, the good one.

781
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: What are your ex when dating a woman or let's say,

782
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: when dating or looking at a potential partner meetings?

783
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: An it for me is like somebody who is trying

784
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: to be like too much, Like you're loud, you try

785
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: to insert yourself in conversations all the time. Like I

786
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: like a quiet, confident woman. So my ach is like

787
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: just like a very loud girl.

788
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: That's right, Women, shut up, you don't deserve to be speaking.

789
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: You don't just kidding, thank you, you got it. I

790
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: feel like just that's it.

791
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: Just like that's for men too, Like I just don't

792
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: like loud, but like that's just my IgG But like

793
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: for me, like that, I just like.

794
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: Confidence and confidence walks silent.

795
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, like the one the obnoxious

796
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: A little.

797
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: Like an obnoxious quirky if you want to put it

798
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: that way, Like I that's my itch is a quirky personality.

799
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: Do you say quirky? No?

800
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: I think is quirky quirky first quirky? Or you say

801
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: c O r k y q U A r k

802
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: y or q u R quirky quirky. I think we're

803
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: both words.

804
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 4: I say quirky like I'm a quirked up white boy.

805
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: You know. It's like I'm going off.

806
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: Like one like video I saw and the kid is like,

807
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: he goes, I'm quirky and the dad goes shut up,

808
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: and that's you and I don't. I just I don't

809
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: like a quirky personality. It's an it for me, no

810
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: matter what gender you are. Yeah, but yeah, that's my

811
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: egg is quirky.

812
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: There you go, he hates some quirk.

813
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: I got one.

814
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, hygiene, I feel like that should just be.

815
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: Hygiene is probably my number one.

816
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: Okay, And what do you.

817
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: Do you mean all of it? Do you mean oral

818
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: oral hygiene?

819
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 6: No?

820
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: I got where you're going from. I I like, I

821
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: like a woman that spells takes care of it. Soft skin,

822
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: soft skin. I like a girl who takes an hour

823
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: routine for bad you like that. I like the one

824
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: going to bed with all the all the oil. Yeah,

825
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: because then sometimes.

826
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: If you don't look like a snail on your face

827
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: before bed, ladies, you're not doing it right right.

828
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: That was my favorite thing with my ex.

829
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: She just was in bed watching like a TV show

830
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: just with nighttime routine, just soaking.

831
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: Wet on her face. Just look like shell. Okay, very hygiene, yeah, okay,

832
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: that's number one. If bad hygiene, it's like a turn

833
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: off the ten.

834
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: It bread like breath, oh breath bo I'm just I

835
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 5: can't fourteen girl.

836
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: With bad breath.

837
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 5: I have a very sensitive snaz. I have a bloodhound.

838
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 5: Can't do it.

839
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I love that. I'm Hygiene's number one for sure.

840
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I gotta go off on that as well.

841
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: Like my type is a girl that looks like she

842
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: smells good. We've talked about this, Like ideally I.

843
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: Felt that I'm not kidding you, I've looked across and

844
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: seen a girl and I'm like, I know, she smells good.

845
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: Wait, this is interesting. Looks like she smells looks like she.

846
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: Smells good, like looks like she's gonna I'm gonna walk

847
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: over and smell like candy. Maybe not candy, you know,

848
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: maybe a moment loral, maybe like a floral and nice

849
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: like spring mist spring miss.

850
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: We're talking back and body.

851
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 4: Works, talking about the virus. I'm a simple guy, number

852
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: six on the rag. But like same thing, like hygien

853
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: anything also goes into just like taking care of yourself.

854
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: Like you know, we're all at the age they were

855
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: at right now, not old, just regular.

856
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, regular.

857
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: You know we're young, we're young.

858
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 4: Young, yeah, but like I take care of myself, you know,

859
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: like I like general health and wellness and so like

860
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 4: I drink, I do drugs, I do everything. Not right now,

861
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: I'm taking a month off Congress for me.

862
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: Bro holds up.

863
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: He's like where the fucking snaps?

864
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: Like like I like someone that's like healthy takes care

865
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: of themselves, you know, like I've done the whole thing

866
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 4: where like my partner just want to like smoke weed

867
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 4: all day and just like order like pizza and chicken

868
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: nuggets and like we're off that, you know what I mean.

869
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: So like someone that like takes care of themselves. I

870
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: think hygiene goes in with that. I also, this is

871
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: just a personal pep beeve. I don't like the smell

872
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: of wine on somebody's skin, on their skin.

873
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: Like bathing like skin.

874
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: Like if you drink enough wine, like I can like

875
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: smell it through, you can your body.

876
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Bottles are hanging out with three bottle VICKI people wine.

877
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. I don't know if

878
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: it's like how I've gotten to this point, but like

879
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: they're very specific. Itck And I'm not going to tell

880
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: everyone to stop chricken wine because everybody loves wines.

881
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: Don't drink too much around this man, don't chicken around me,

882
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: you know, stop hanging out.

883
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: It's like some natty orange wine. We're in La, you

884
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's some efferves and biodynamic, a

885
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: little crunchy little to it, you know what I mean,

886
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: pulling up a cho you know. But I don't know.

887
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: That's like a personal thing generally, just like taking care

888
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 4: of yourself is very important to me and to like

889
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: I think to Easton's point before, like you want a

890
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 4: woman to be your piece. You know, that's a very

891
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 4: cliche statement, but like when it comes to the whole,

892
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: like it's not like you're not looking for a quiet

893
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 4: woman who's no. Yeah, of course, but you're looking for

894
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 4: someone to find some like some comfort and to find

895
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: some peace and to be able to relax around them

896
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: and have not everything be a big deal or everything

897
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: be like a fighter stuff.

898
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, thank you for saying that you got me.

899
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: No you for clarifying mine at somebody would have taken it.

900
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: And also, just like good.

901
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: Taste, bad taste, in style.

902
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 4: In style, in esthetic, in appearance. We've joked about this before,

903
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: but like, I hate when a like a girl's Instagram story,

904
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: as fucked up as that is, will turn me off

905
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: of her.

906
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: Really he's attracted to like an Instagram page.

907
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm attracted to what's on the page.

908
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't care what the page looks like.

909
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: I'm a very aesthetic visual person. I went to school

910
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: for like video photographer. I used to be a photographer,

911
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: and so like, art and design is very important in

912
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: my life, and so it would only make sense that

913
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: it's important in what I look for in a partner

914
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: that they have a similar eye. So like, if you

915
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: post Instagram story it's got some weird border around it,

916
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: Go bye, bit I'm out you like, Yeah, that's like

917
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: a zoom out, like a little twist.

918
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: He has no other line.

919
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: But you better stop zooming out with that twist, ladies

920
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: and get eli.

921
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 4: You have a twist in the never.

922
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: Mind in the bedroom. Chee likes a little grabbing twists,

923
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: but not on the inter.

924
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: Not on the Instagram story?

925
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: Are you all three of you? You meet? Ten out

926
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: of ten? Woman looks pretend your single here, Calvin looks

927
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: personality ten out of ten. You go on her Instagram page,

928
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: It is all selfies on the main grid. How do

929
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: we feel?

930
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: Don't care at all?

931
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Love it all selfies, no friends, no nothing.

932
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: You want to know what I look for? If I

933
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: if I go to like.

934
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: Your Instagram page and I go to your tags photos,

935
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: then you have none.

936
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: That's when I know you're sketchy.

937
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Red flag, red flag for sure, because you don't whoever

938
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: has posted you. You don't like the way you look

939
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: in that post, so it's not on your page, but

940
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: you don't want anybody to see it.

941
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: That team.

942
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: So if I go to with girls page, yeah, and

943
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: I go to her tag photos and there's none, I

944
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: don't trust you.

945
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: Not only with what they're doing wrong.

946
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 7: It's how they're with, how they look at what they're doing,

947
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 7: where they out partying.

948
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: You know, they could tell.

949
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 7: You, oh, I'm at home doing whatever, chill oh, but

950
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 7: their friend tags them on Instagram.

951
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: They're out at there. You get you know, I don't know,

952
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: I like it, you don't care. I love his line

953
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 3: is Instagram? What are you talking about?

954
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: Confident?

955
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: Bad bitch on Instagram?

956
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: You got an Instagram full of pictures of you? That

957
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: means you like you. I love an ego. I love

958
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 4: self confidence.

959
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: That's but I love an ego with friends.

960
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 4: And like, we're also in an age where, like especially

961
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: in La, everyone kind of has a personal brand. So

962
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: if that tag photo doesn't fit in your personal brand

963
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: that you're working on, fuck it. Keep it off the page.

964
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the different brand.

965
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 4: How about you calls a woman?

966
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what do you feel? You go on the page.

967
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: It's all selfies, every single one, not a single one

968
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: that's of a sunset or your friend.

969
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: So I'm exposing myself.

970
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 5: I don't think I have on Yeah, well I but

971
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 5: that's also I mean there's reasons.

972
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: It's your portrait.

973
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 5: It's not like it has gone, it's it's undergone. Many

974
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: different stages stages, yes, and there was a point where

975
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: it was okay, you know, friends and this and that,

976
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: and then you know, it turned to more okay, strictly modeling,

977
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: and then you know, more reality TV and then now

978
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 5: like acting and so it's gone through these stages, and

979
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: especially when branding, I think that it's important to to

980
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: say does this line up with my brand?

981
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: And yeah?

982
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 5: I think that especially for me, is where I am like,

983
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 5: I love my stories and I can post on my stories.

984
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: I post my friends and all these different things on

985
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 5: my stories.

986
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 3: So I think that wouldn't.

987
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 5: Be as big of a red flag for me if

988
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 5: there was just selfies and just stuff of them. But

989
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: I'd definitely be interested in, you know, their stories, their

990
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: highlights and even talk to them like you.

991
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: I don't do that. Yeah, I don't know how this is.

992
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: You have a great grid. It is a lot of you, Calvin,

993
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: but it's not all of you. No, you have like

994
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 2: artsy like.

995
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Oh that's true that you know some detailed shots.

996
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: Detail shots people give you justin Bieber, I bet for looks.

997
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, come on, are you joking this photo?

998
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 4: Let's see that's Beabs right.

999
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: In the trap. Bro. That really is.

1000
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: I was like, why do you have Justin Bieber on

1001
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: your grid?

1002
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: Oh that's a huge believe.

1003
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? This is Bieber? Okay, anyway, go to

1004
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: Calvin on the.

1005
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 4: Path if you want to check out I'm looking for

1006
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 4: I'm looking for Calvin and all my girls.

1007
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: You know, you're looking for a bit of Calvin and

1008
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: all your bit of short hair. Committed man, he's not

1009
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: open to a relationship, but you can go gaka. Okay, Okay,

1010
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: this is a great one. And I love this one

1011
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: because we talk about it all the time when laws

1012
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: on here are men intimidated by a woman making more

1013
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: than them, meaning more money? And how do you guys

1014
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: each feel about I feel like.

1015
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: If it's no, I'm not intimidated unless she like keeps

1016
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: fucking pinning it against me.

1017
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: Using it against you.

1018
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Like if you belittle me because of it,

1019
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: then y'all I'll have a problem.

1020
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: But I don't have a problem with somebody making more

1021
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: money than me, like my significant other, not at.

1022
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: All, okay, And it's not going to make you feel

1023
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: like lesser than threatened or she suggests like let's say

1024
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: you guys have a kid, and she goes can you

1025
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: I make the money? Can you stay home maybe and

1026
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: be a state of dream?

1027
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: What a fu dam that would.

1028
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: Be just like but you got it, Like I need

1029
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: food ready when I come home, Like this is me

1030
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: just like a housewife, a house husband. Yeah you're down,

1031
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: but then your passions, I don't know, I'm taking it

1032
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: really far him No.

1033
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: I mean no, honestly, I would.

1034
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that because I would like,

1035
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: I would do whatever the I had to do if

1036
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: we had kids, school and every time, like in my

1037
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: free time, I would try to find something that I

1038
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: was passionate about to follow to make money.

1039
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, I wouldn't mind.

1040
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: Okay, that's great.

1041
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: I would just try. I just would have to do

1042
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: something for me. But I don't care.

1043
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: I love this generation of men. But let's hear your answers,

1044
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: because I feel like anyway, go ahead.

1045
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: I think that especially when it comes to marriage or

1046
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: in a relationship, it's like it's ours, like we're building

1047
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: something together. It's an empire that we're building, and so

1048
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 5: what needs to be done needs to be done. And

1049
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 5: so it's like, yeah, hey, if you're having this run

1050
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 5: of success and you're going off, you're going crazy, I'm

1051
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: here for you. What do we need and let's boom

1052
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 5: boom boom, and then it's I think this even outside

1053
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 5: of just relationships, but like friendships, it's like, hey, you know,

1054
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 5: if someone in your circle is winning, you're winning, and

1055
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 5: so they're winning, they pull you up, you win, you

1056
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 5: pull them up, and so you do what needs to

1057
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: be done.

1058
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: I do think it isn't.

1059
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 5: Important, though, to not lose one's identity, is to have

1060
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 5: those passions and to be able to say, hey, I

1061
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 5: can do this for you one. These are the things

1062
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 5: that are important to me that I want to continue

1063
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 5: on while you are like a given to Yeah, while

1064
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 5: you're while you're going off on all these things, I'm

1065
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 5: here to support.

1066
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: What do you need?

1067
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 5: This is what I need and as long as you

1068
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: communicate on that properly then.

1069
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 1: Because after Eli answers, I do, I want to ask

1070
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: you the add on of it.

1071
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's not health baby, right, thank you, thank you, Eli.

1072
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: Great question?

1073
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: Is everybody I have to make more than her? No?

1074
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: I mean model, So my type besides women that look

1075
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: like they smell good, are women that are out of

1076
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: my league. It just is what it is, and I

1077
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: don't think that's worked out for me in the past.

1078
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: But just like it is what.

1079
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: It is, Like you like chasing a girl that's like

1080
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: got her shit together, chaotic.

1081
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: But I like girls that are better than me and

1082
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 4: so naturally, especially where we live in LA like they're

1083
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: probably going to make more money than me potentially, Like

1084
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: I don't struggle. I do fine. But thus if you're

1085
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: out of mit, then you're really fucking crushing it, you

1086
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean, right, And so that is not

1087
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: a turn off for me. I think you just need

1088
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 4: transparency and communication because it could be a problem for them.

1089
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 4: And like to pretend like I'm gonna like stunt and

1090
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 4: like throw all this money around the first few dates

1091
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: because I'm not gonna lie. I Also I like to spend.

1092
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 4: I like I love, I blow a bag on a date.

1093
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 3: He blows. I don't go on anything.

1094
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: It means money by first Like we've talked about first

1095
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: dates before and I'm always like I want to sit

1096
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 4: across from your dinner and like it's going to cost

1097
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 4: some money, and it costs money to date women.

1098
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: I've got the jet and like going it costs money.

1099
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: It costs money.

1100
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: It is what it is.

1101
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: And we've talked about like dating apps and people being like, oh,

1102
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: I'll never like buy a rose on hinge and I'm like,

1103
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 4: fuck it, I'll buy a rose. It's cheaper than a drink.

1104
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 4: You know what it costs money to date? Period?

1105
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: What the hell is going on?

1106
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: What do you mean Kyle just spent on roses? Please? King?

1107
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: Absolute kid, no issue with that.

1108
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: I've never had a dating app, so I don't know

1109
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: what dating app a woman that, a woman that I'm

1110
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: pursuing is worth more than two ninety nine on that

1111
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: rose on hinge?

1112
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: So like, who cared to nine?

1113
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? But you walk up to her,

1114
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: go to bar? You're gonna spend eighteen bucks in La

1115
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: on a drink doing that?

1116
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: Either.

1117
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: It's a great question, do you guys all?

1118
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 3: I'd me in the corner.

1119
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: Baby.

1120
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: You go on a first date and she goes, oh

1121
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: I'll pay for this, No, not have it.

1122
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: I just can't even it just isn't. I'm not. My

1123
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 4: body's not gonna allow that to happen, even on like

1124
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: the second and third date when she's like, oh I

1125
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: got it this time, and I'm like okay, cool, And

1126
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: then the guy comes with the bill and I just

1127
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 4: physically can't even if I'm like.

1128
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Hold on, if a girl, If a girl offers to pay,

1129
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: where's her head at?

1130
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Like?

1131
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: Are you paying?

1132
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Like first date? You you know it's a date. You

1133
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: said let's go first, to pay for me the first day,

1134
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: and she goes, I got this one, but she's doing

1135
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: the reach you have.

1136
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: You have the opportunity, but like where why are you paying?

1137
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Because she's like, oh, you know like him?

1138
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: If you if she pays for me, I feel like

1139
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: I have to take her to another on another date.

1140
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: Okay, but she goes. You guys decided, like a girl.

1141
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: Splits, isn't that the goals to take another date? If

1142
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't like her and get out? This one's on me, sweetheart?

1143
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: Down the line, it's reasonable to be splitting. And at

1144
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: some point, you know, show by offers.

1145
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: If a girl offers to split, I won't make her pay.

1146
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: If a girl doesn't offer to split, make her you're

1147
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: gonna sit there in silence and right on the.

1148
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: First date though first date, I'm talking first date.

1149
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: What I'm paying the point of money I'm paying because

1150
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm usually the one asking.

1151
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: If a girl asked me to go out I'd like

1152
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: for her to offer to pay.

1153
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: For me, okay, for the first but are you going

1154
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: to allow it? Okay? She goes to do the reach.

1155
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: You go no, no, no, I got this.

1156
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: No, I want to be asked or I want her

1157
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: to offer to pay. Yeah, if she asked me out,

1158
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: but I won't allow it.

1159
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1160
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 4: It's a gesture.

1161
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: It's a gesture. It's like when you get cut off

1162
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: in traffic and they give you a wave. You're good.

1163
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'm a pro at the gester girl. Oh,

1164
00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: I got it?

1165
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: A gesture?

1166
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: All right, George Costanza, I got one here for you guys.

1167
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna switch us up.

1168
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: Okay.

1169
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 7: First date, she offers to pay, and you know you're

1170
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 7: not gonna go on another day with her.

1171
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: No, I'm paying for her because then I'm not an answer.

1172
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

1173
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, say it again, say it again.

1174
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 7: All right, first date she offers to pay, but you

1175
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 7: already know the date's not going well, you're not gonna

1176
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 7: go on a second with this person?

1177
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: And it is.

1178
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 3: Oh, if we're at Craigs, I'm like, sweetheart, Yes.

1179
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: Four hundred dollars, we'll go to split it.

1180
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: No, if I'm not doing it, and then I'd probably

1181
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna do something really special for you, and

1182
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 1: that special thing is I'm gonna way out of here again.

1183
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: Casper the Friendly Ghost isn't so hold on.

1184
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: And she's into it. She thinks she's gonna see you. Guy.

1185
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna text her and say you're not

1186
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: the vibe. You're gonna let her pay.

1187
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: I need to get the better I really am.

1188
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm Casper the Friendly Ghost. We're getting better at it.

1189
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to make some amends for sure her.

1190
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you guys.

1191
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 3: Though I don't get better everybody, I'll get better.

1192
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: I do generally think the point of money is to

1193
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: spend it on beautiful women. I've said that in the past,

1194
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 4: and just like, like like money that I spend on dating,

1195
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 4: I don't even put in my fucking budget, Like that's

1196
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: just like that's just come. That's just extra money, like

1197
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: I hope I have it, but like I don't even

1198
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 4: factor that into what I'm spending throughout the week.

1199
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: Your d are about to be blowing up.

1200
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: I know it's I'm gonna get a meal and not

1201
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: even have to lay them.

1202
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 4: That's the cost of life. You know what it is?

1203
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Cost of life? Hell yeah, hell yeah.

1204
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: If she offers to pay and I'm not gonna see

1205
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 4: her again, I probably still can't even do it because

1206
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 4: she's gonna tell her friends. And I'm a broke motherfucker.

1207
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: I can't have it.

1208
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: Mad At it's too small for that. Don't have anyone.

1209
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'd say no, and then I'd say I'm

1210
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: gonna go to the restroom. When I cast for out there,

1211
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: you reach, you reach for your person.

1212
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 7: I can see Easton just going up paying the bill

1213
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 7: and then just walking out the door.

1214
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: Jokes. Is a good guy. That's cool?

1215
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 4: Hey the bill from a distance, And.

1216
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not. I don't know. I'm a good guy

1217
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: in my eyes. You need to get better.

1218
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: You're the best guy.

1219
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: They've just talk to me. I do need to get better.

1220
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: And not like ghosting women.

1221
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is, is it what is considered ghosting?

1222
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: Just not co responding? Ever, But if you're.

1223
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: Talking to someone on a dating app you never met,

1224
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: conversation fizzles out, did you ghost that person?

1225
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: Depends on, in my opinion, how long a conversation. If

1226
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: you guys have been talking every day for two weeks

1227
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you disappear, I'd say, oh,

1228
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: poor man has passed away.

1229
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the only reason I'm dead to many

1230
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: a women. Then hit by carstro I'm dead many a

1231
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: women two weeks.

1232
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: Every day you're checking it.

1233
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even let it get to that point, though,

1234
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: if we're not.

1235
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 3: Using the Calvin's disgusted face.

1236
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: If I am going to get better at it in

1237
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: Duke Tom, but I am not good at it now,

1238
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get better at it step by step, not ghosting. Yeah,

1239
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: but sometimes I get I don't know, yeah, you know

1240
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: you like.

1241
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: What were you saying about the app? You wouldn't let

1242
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: it get to that.

1243
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: Why I don't do like pen pals on dating apps.

1244
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 4: So like I'm actually not on dating apps right now

1245
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 4: at all. Which is.

1246
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: I got a question. Is it bad to just have

1247
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 3: like a booty call?

1248
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: Yes?

1249
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 3: Yes, Well here's here's what I'll say.

1250
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: And this kind of encompasses everything in all of this,

1251
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 5: even the question about the who's paying. If you know

1252
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 5: you're not gonna like all this can be solved with communication,

1253
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 5: if you can just say, hey, listen, here, listen, I

1254
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: like this, but it's a great restaurant. You know, like

1255
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 5: I really don't. I'm not feeling this. You know, you're

1256
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 5: a great person. I think it's best if we go

1257
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,479
Speaker 5: our separate ways. I'll pay, you can pay, We're gonna

1258
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 5: split whatever. But like I want you to know, regardless

1259
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 5: that the expectations going away from this, I don't want

1260
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 5: to leave.

1261
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: In the dark.

1262
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 5: And sometimes it does take a couple of days after

1263
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 5: for you to be like, huh, like, let me sit

1264
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 5: with this. But I mean, we all if we're trusting

1265
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 5: your intuition.

1266
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: But here's why I kidding.

1267
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: Guys, Calvin is taken. Do not blow up here.

1268
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: That's why he's taken though, because of these things.

1269
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: But how I look at it is like if I

1270
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: was talking to a girl for like three months and

1271
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: she just stopped responding, I'd be like, all right, really

1272
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: and then I just forget.

1273
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then I'd do it. I feel like, because

1274
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: if you do it to me, I don't care. So

1275
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: I feel like I do it to people because I

1276
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: feel like everybody doesn't care. But people do care. So

1277
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: you can ghost me too.

1278
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: Well, they wonder what they did wrong? Did I say

1279
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: something wrong?

1280
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: For me?

1281
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: If you ghost me, which is never happened me. I go, oh, oh,

1282
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: he just realized he has terrible taste. I don't want

1283
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: anything to do with him anyway, But.

1284
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: That se fix your thing, because nobody did anything. I

1285
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: just found out that I need to just not talk

1286
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: to you for a while.

1287
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: Okay, mental health reasons, but that's good.

1288
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 4: I mean your thing about the taste thing. Like I

1289
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 4: think everyone in this room, I think maybe is blessed

1290
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 4: to have very high self confidence and whatnot. So like,

1291
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 4: I like a girl with good taste, and so like,

1292
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: if you like me, good shit, ye I love that.

1293
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 4: And that gets into your question. Another question I've seen

1294
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: come up of like sex on the first date, right,

1295
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 4: like is that a deal breaker?

1296
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

1297
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily tie sex to morality or ethics at

1298
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: any point. So like, if I'm on a first date

1299
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: and a girl and have sex with me, it's not

1300
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: a bad thing.

1301
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: Well you say no though, if you're not if you're

1302
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: into her, but you think, is there ever a time

1303
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: where you're like, she won't respect me?

1304
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: I could say that the longest relationships I've had in

1305
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: the past ten years have been first night sex situation. Really,

1306
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 4: and it doesn't change at all how I feel about

1307
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: that person. If anything, I'm like, I am cool and

1308
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: you see that. So one good taste. Sorry to sound

1309
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 4: like an argon asshole there, but two like it also

1310
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 4: gets that out of the way. So then like, if

1311
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 4: we know that, if we are moving forward, it's not

1312
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 4: just based on lust and I'm not just now just

1313
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: like playing a role to get to the sex part.

1314
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 4: Like we've had sex already and we're still hanging out.

1315
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: Have sex in the first week.

1316
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: First week, first week, not date, So.

1317
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: You're maybe I had so many times, We're going to

1318
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: see her that week, nothing wrong with having second Why

1319
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: wait some month and then have sex with him and

1320
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: be like.

1321
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: That was terrible?

1322
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 5: Well, I also think that the second that the physical

1323
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: is brought into the relationship, it is harder for the

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Speaker 5: emotional and that connection to continue to form because it's

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Speaker 5: like we're such carnal creatures.

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Speaker 3: So it's like boom boom. I'm not saying it's right

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Speaker 3: or wrong for me.

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Speaker 5: I would prefer at least the first couple of dates

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Speaker 5: or the first, you know, a couple of weeks of like, hey,

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Speaker 5: let me really get to know who you are, and

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe we.

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Speaker 3: Do, maybe we don't but some blue balls for the week.

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Speaker 5: I'm not throwing it out the first the first date

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Speaker 5: generally swinging, would I know, swinging the old bat of me.

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Speaker 2: That's great. No, that's great. Two each is.

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Speaker 3: Out, so Calvin week or two Eli first night.

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Speaker 4: But like I'm also I'm not going to be mad

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Speaker 4: at going sex the first night. You know, that's totally fine.

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Speaker 4: I'm a bad guy.

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Speaker 2: We know, okay really quick because it's so good as dudes.

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Speaker 2: How do you guys support each other's mental health to

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Speaker 2: make sure.

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Speaker 1: You're okay, just being there for homies and not just listening,

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Speaker 1: not being an asshole like I said, Like, it's how people.

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Speaker 3: React to your emotion. So when they get emotional, I become.

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Speaker 1: You know, docile for them because I'm gonna take it

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Speaker 1: all in. So I got homies that listen, that take

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Speaker 1: on the energy that I'm giving so they can give

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Speaker 1: the same type of response. So my homies are close.

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Speaker 1: I've cried to them, They've cried to me. So I

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Speaker 1: just keep homies that I can be honest with and

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Speaker 1: emotional with. From that, I get bye, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: People, you can trust you guys.

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Speaker 4: Just checking in with the homies. Really, I mean I

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Speaker 4: could do a better job for sure of opening up

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Speaker 4: to my friends. I'm pretty guarded. I would say.

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Speaker 5: I think it's important not only to just ask your friends, hey,

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Speaker 5: are you okay, because you're gonna get the good oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm good, but to take that initiative and say, like, hey,

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Speaker 5: what's going on in your life? And you know, get

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Speaker 5: get underneath it, because a lot of times it is,

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Speaker 5: even even with our best friends, it's such a ah

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Speaker 5: yeah I'm good man, I'm chilling.

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Speaker 3: But like I mean, just go deeper, go deeper and

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Speaker 3: keep asking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's really great. I love you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I thank you so much. I'm gonna let Easton close

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Speaker 2: us out, but thank you guys for doing this.

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Speaker 1: Boys, is there anywhere that these people can find you?

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Speaker 4: You can hit me up on. I g I'm not

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Speaker 4: popping by any means, but and what is that? I

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Speaker 4: g underscore Eli Benjamin, but let's make me popping.

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Speaker 2: We'll tag you, Calvin.

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Speaker 5: I know I pluged yours, but yes, my Instagram is

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Speaker 5: at Calvin on the cob.

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Speaker 3: Hey you there, you're there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much, and thank you for

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01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: giving up no, and thank you for listening to the

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Speaker 1: Give Them Lola podcast.

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Speaker 3: This episode will be out on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Video is out on Friday, and so make sure you

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Speaker 1: check that out, like comment, subscribe on.

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01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 3: It, hit that belt so you notified.

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Speaker 4: Bye Fe.