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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Season eighteen, episode number one h two.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, Live from
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Speaker 1: we're a little bit late today, Amber, I'm I'm not.
Speaker 1: I didn't meet your time frame here five minutes later
Speaker 1: from the other day. You were, um, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: complaining because oh oh, so I was right on time
Speaker 1: and you were complaining today at Actually you need to
Speaker 1: worry about Shirley Broadest. So I'm sorry. Hey, today is
Speaker 1: one of those days where you guys have seen it,
Speaker 1: y'all know my life. This is one of those days
Speaker 1: where everybody was pulling at me and I had a
Speaker 1: lot of things to handle. So just know that we're
Speaker 1: we're moving, We got things moving, We're handling business around here,
Speaker 1: and we have time talk a little. Cowboys football the
Speaker 1: fun part of my day. So let's do that. Let's
Speaker 1: start first. We said we're gonna keep an eye on
Speaker 1: that Washington um that Washington injury report. It didn't change
Speaker 1: from yesterday except for one person, Montest Sweat did practice yesterday.
Speaker 1: But that list is full and there are a lot
Speaker 1: of their best players that are still listed as did
Speaker 1: not practice or you guys think it. At this point,
Speaker 1: they're gonna sit a lot of guys just because it's
Speaker 1: just why why play them if you don't have to? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I was wondering, and this is something
Speaker 1: that if there is a draft show in Washington that
Speaker 1: they're working on. I mean, what I wonder is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's always a kind of a bottleneck right here at
Speaker 1: this at this end of the season, with these five
Speaker 1: hundred teams, wonder what a loss or a win does
Speaker 1: for their draft pick. I don't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't need to think about it either. Well,
Speaker 1: you know that the draft show you know, like the
Speaker 1: Teddy Draft show that they have the Teddy Draft Show. Ye,
Speaker 1: the Teddy Show. Yeah, yeah, I just wonder if all
Speaker 1: that kind of factors in then again to who I mean,
Speaker 1: the coaches to have they need to win some games.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna be around to benefit that.
Speaker 1: I mean that there's a lot going on with that organization,
Speaker 1: Like there are a lot of people that probably worried,
Speaker 1: like what's going to be going on about next year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's there's a lot of questions there. So
Speaker 1: Stadium maybe been trying to discuss. I like that maybe
Speaker 1: maybe maybe New Right has some very interesting sound effects.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe new regime. Okay, right now, if you uh,
Speaker 1: right now, if you're the command why am I doing this?
Speaker 1: You're the commanders, You're sitting in the fourteen hole. You're seven,
Speaker 1: eight and one behind you were all the eight and
Speaker 1: eight teams. It's Pittsburgh ahead of you, the head of you,
Speaker 1: the seven and nine Jets, the the Houston Texans at twelve.
Speaker 1: That's a pick from Cleveland that they've got the Titans
Speaker 1: those records though the teams that are ahead of them
Speaker 1: are they like one game ahead of them? So if
Speaker 1: they lose this weekend, they kind of maybe jump some
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, what happens is, okay, say everybody ahead,
Speaker 1: let's go Philadelphia. Well you get a hope that New
Speaker 1: Orleans wins. Yeah, actually, because that would make them eight
Speaker 1: and nine because Philadelphia has their pick right now, that's
Speaker 1: sitting as a tenth. That's sitting as a tenth. So Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: I thought at one time that was gonna be like
Speaker 1: the third oh ball pick. I meant, yeah, Saints have rallied. Gosh,
Speaker 1: they've rallied, you know, and so you need him to
Speaker 1: win this weekend to get eight and nine and then
Speaker 1: drop that thing down a little bit lower. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so you got the seven and nine Saints, the seven
Speaker 1: and nine Tennessee Titans, the seven and nine Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: and the seven and nine Jets. So if you win,
Speaker 1: that makes you eight eight and one. Hopefully you know
Speaker 1: you want you don't want it. You want all those
Speaker 1: teams to lose, right, you want every one of those
Speaker 1: teams to lose, with the exception of the Saints. You
Speaker 1: don't want the Saints to lose because Philadelphia has their pick.
Speaker 1: If you're that type of person, which I am, so
Speaker 1: like twelve to eighteen is kind of where they Yet
Speaker 1: they could go up another two or three spots. They
Speaker 1: could also fall significant number spot. Well, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying behind him. If okay, say, for example, those teams
Speaker 1: like say for example, Pittsburgh Green Bay to trade all
Speaker 1: those guys, they'll lose, you know, I mean Seattle Act.
Speaker 1: Well there's a bunch of eight and eight teams if
Speaker 1: they were to you know, if all those teams, I
Speaker 1: mean they could, they could. You're a situation too where
Speaker 1: they're you know, I think what they're going to try
Speaker 1: to do is it's sort of like a preseason mentality.
Speaker 1: Not you know, you can't rest all these people, but
Speaker 1: you go into it with like we want to see
Speaker 1: certain things, and if we win, we win, but we
Speaker 1: want to see certain things. How yeah, Sam, how knowing
Speaker 1: that this may not be our best chance to win,
Speaker 1: but we want it's more about to see certain things.
Speaker 1: It gets down to it. They're gonna go for too,
Speaker 1: to try to win the game. Stuff like that. Well,
Speaker 1: you'll definitely see that if it's tied. You mean, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna see like let's go over time. It's like,
Speaker 1: let's just win this game, you know, so I don't
Speaker 1: know if they'll get that close. What do you think
Speaker 1: is kind of like the mood and the vibe between
Speaker 1: the players and that lock for them, Now, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's probably that's a man with you next week.
Speaker 1: That is the biggest question. I actually was writing our
Speaker 1: gut feeling gut feelings, right, and I said, getting in
Speaker 1: the in the lock their psyche for them, that's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing. Do we just play loose and fast and
Speaker 1: say let's let's go win this game, let's be Dallas
Speaker 1: and you know, let's get it, or what we say? Well,
Speaker 1: you you talk about this all the time. Nick. It's
Speaker 1: really also about not what happens on Sunday, because on
Speaker 1: Sunday they may play with the reckless abandon like it's
Speaker 1: the last game of the season. Just got here and
Speaker 1: have some fun. What are they doing yesterday? What they
Speaker 1: doing Wednesday? Like that's when you win or that's when
Speaker 1: you lose these kinds of games. If you're if you're Washington,
Speaker 1: do you give it the same amount of preparation during
Speaker 1: the week leading into the game, knowing that the game
Speaker 1: doesn't mean as much for you. You might have lost
Speaker 1: it Monday night when you saw that kid laying on
Speaker 1: the field. Well, that's what you wonder about a lot
Speaker 1: of teams. Yeah, if you're not playing for anything right now,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about You're thinking about Hamlin laying on the field,
Speaker 1: and you're you're and what everybody's going through right now
Speaker 1: with that, and you know you're sitting there and that
Speaker 1: that was a true an accident, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm not saying it's part of the
Speaker 1: game because we haven't seen it as part of the game,
Speaker 1: but it happened. And now, as a player, your flight,
Speaker 1: you're thinking when you saw the ambulance role and we
Speaker 1: had Tank Lawrence on yesterday, yeah, and we asked him
Speaker 1: about it and yeah on the fan and um and
Speaker 1: he was saying, listen, you can't you can't think about
Speaker 1: that because you've got to play this game. You can't
Speaker 1: let that that thought of what you saw a Monday
Speaker 1: night creep into your head because you can't play like that.
Speaker 1: You have to play, you know, with a focus. And
Speaker 1: and I wonder if there's not just the Commanders, I
Speaker 1: wonder the other eighteen teams that are not looking at
Speaker 1: playoff spots right now, are just saying, you know, well,
Speaker 1: let's find a way just to kind of get this
Speaker 1: to the end of the season. And am I going
Speaker 1: to take that chance? Am I going to die for
Speaker 1: that ball? I'm I gonna put my head in there
Speaker 1: to try and make a tackle. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that especially it's hard because when it's over, it's over.
Speaker 1: But after what everybody saw a Monday night and going
Speaker 1: through this week, I think there's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: out there that are probably thinking about just let me,
Speaker 1: let me get to the green trash bag day, you know,
Speaker 1: they put all my stuff in and go home. You
Speaker 1: know what I would expect, Brian, I would expect that
Speaker 1: that may be a thought for a series or two,
Speaker 1: and then I think muscle memory takes over because these
Speaker 1: guys have done this. Most of them have been doing
Speaker 1: this since they were, you know, little kids, and so
Speaker 1: once they get into the game, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of that stuff fades away and and they just play
Speaker 1: as they play football all their lives. And but I
Speaker 1: do think you're right. I think right now it's something
Speaker 1: probably on Thursday, on Thursday and Friday, there's probably a
Speaker 1: lot of players in the NFL who are thinking about
Speaker 1: that and obviously maybe thinking about a little different today
Speaker 1: than they were thinking about it on Tuesday. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't know the outcome for for for Hamlin. But the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, I think the fact that
Speaker 1: we've had good reports come out, he's gotten the breathing
Speaker 1: tooth out now, he's actually he was actually able to
Speaker 1: talk to his teammates today, I think that does change
Speaker 1: it a little bit. But there's still there's still probably
Speaker 1: some of that in these guys minds. Once you get going,
Speaker 1: then you start talking the competitive miss Yeah, comes out
Speaker 1: the individual as a player. You know, when you're playing anything,
Speaker 1: you get competitive, and especially in those one on one
Speaker 1: situations like oh you're beating me, and then you start
Speaker 1: getting angry and then you start playing at a higher level.
Speaker 1: So maybe it does start out that way and as
Speaker 1: it goes through, everyone's just kind of playing full at it. Well,
Speaker 1: what you and what we also don't know is there's
Speaker 1: guys playing for certain incentives in their contracts, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Whether you know now you get to think if I
Speaker 1: could get two more sacks, if I get four more catches,
Speaker 1: if I get you know, what does another win mean
Speaker 1: for as you're if you're a quarterback. What if you're
Speaker 1: one of these backup quarterbacks and you're trying to win.
Speaker 1: You know, Brock Purty might have something in his contract
Speaker 1: in San Francisco even though they're in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: all that of if you're ever a starter and then
Speaker 1: you all of a sudden you win so many games,
Speaker 1: you go for making eight hundred thousand dollars or whatever
Speaker 1: to making five million or six million dollars, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get the new house. Yeah, so there's there's incentives for
Speaker 1: these guys to play. But is there incentive for all
Speaker 1: forty eight to play? That's the question. I think there's
Speaker 1: some guys I'm not gonna lie. I think there's some
Speaker 1: guys that are on Sunday when they see the inactive
Speaker 1: list and you're gonna go, And there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are gonna breathe a sigh of
Speaker 1: relief that I don't have to play in this win today,
Speaker 1: you know, I really really do. All Right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the matchup. We've got a few questions on that.
Speaker 1: We'll get some fan questions, hopefully in the final segment
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Speaker 1: about the matchup Cowboys versus Commanders happening this Sunday. Brian Robinson,
Speaker 1: running backs starting running back for the Commanders, is still
Speaker 1: on their injury report, has not practiced this week. Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson has been moved to IR, so he's definitely not
Speaker 1: playing their top two running backs. Who else on that
Speaker 1: team can hurt you from the standpoint of the running game,
Speaker 1: because obviously we know the running game has at moments
Speaker 1: been a problem for the Cowboys defense. Who else can
Speaker 1: hurt you? If those two guys don't play, that's a
Speaker 1: great question because Brian Robinson was the one. There's a
Speaker 1: side of me that feels like these guys are gonna play.
Speaker 1: I know it didn't practice, Yeah, I know the injury
Speaker 1: report is what is we'll see today. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know it's Jared Patterson is the guy behind. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got Jonathan Wood, you got Robinson, Jonathan Williams, who
Speaker 1: they got off the practice squad with the Giants. Jared
Speaker 1: Patterson is a free agent, a college free agent from
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. So if they go, if they just
Speaker 1: if Robinson doesn't play, then like then, like I said,
Speaker 1: you've you've got that situation where you have those Williams
Speaker 1: has been getting work because of, like I said, the
Speaker 1: injury that they've dealt with, you know with now putting
Speaker 1: Gibson on irs Arkansas Jonathan Williams running back from Jonathan Williams.
Speaker 1: You got me on that one. Nick, I don't know
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to know about the desk. I'll get you
Speaker 1: on your Arkansas Arkansas gear. He is he is a
Speaker 1: running back from he is. He is he is from Arkansas,
Speaker 1: absolutely is. Yeah, So you're right about him wait wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait quick. While we're talking about running back from Arkansas,
Speaker 1: I want to say, let's prayers for Peyton Hillis, absolutely too.
Speaker 1: That's a scary, scary situation going on there. He's in
Speaker 1: the hospital right now, unconscious, but I think the signs
Speaker 1: are that he's doing he's doing better us. He is unconscious,
Speaker 1: but he is still unconscious. But very heroic thing that
Speaker 1: he did to save his two kids in the ocean
Speaker 1: and um in Florida. But yeah, those of don't remember,
Speaker 1: Peyton Hillis was a running back in the NFL back
Speaker 1: in two thousand tennis. He was on the cover of Madden.
Speaker 1: I know, he's on the cover of Madden. Had a
Speaker 1: really phenomenal season there before before he before he was
Speaker 1: on the cover of Madden. So oh yeah, he was,
Speaker 1: he was. He had a minute. Was he with Felix
Speaker 1: Jones at Arkansas? Oh? Yeah, yeah, they were? They were
Speaker 1: the two running backs three three? Oh yeah, forgot about
Speaker 1: the best of the thing. Yeah, Fadden, Felix and Peyton
Speaker 1: Hillis they were there together from like two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: six and seven, yea, And the fans were so mad
Speaker 1: that because they didn't throw the ball very much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of why offensive coordinator never get the
Speaker 1: benefit of doubt that Jonathan Williams Yeah, Arkansas, Yeah, shifty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's he's not gonna he's not gonna keep you
Speaker 1: up at night. I mean, be all right, but that's
Speaker 1: yeah there. If it's just I just don't know, I
Speaker 1: just there. I know their injury report looks terrible right now.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they could if they think
Speaker 1: this might just be I just think they're listing guys myself.
Speaker 1: We'll see if they practice today, Yeah, we'll see. If
Speaker 1: you know, we mentioned Curl, Saint jus Alan, those if
Speaker 1: you're a Cowboy fan, those are the ones you don't
Speaker 1: want to see play, you know. I mean Brian Robinson.
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson a running back, is really really good. But
Speaker 1: but if you want to if you want to have
Speaker 1: that ability to move the football, no Jonathan Allen, no Curl,
Speaker 1: and no Saint Juice would really really help your costs.
Speaker 1: We've done this before with the Cowboys O line. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you think left or right? How do you
Speaker 1: think that's gonna shake out? You don't think it will
Speaker 1: be the same as what it's been. The last game
Speaker 1: that was it was it? What it was last at
Speaker 1: the end at the game. Yeah, with with Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: and left guard and uh Jason. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: don't know how long they're gonna go with Peters. That's
Speaker 1: that's my question, is how okay, starting lineup is one thing,
Speaker 1: but like and then and then what happens? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to get through the game like that,
Speaker 1: You're like, okay Peters, Tyler Smith McGovern and then Zach
Speaker 1: and Tyrn. But for the whole game. If you know
Speaker 1: it's not going to go the whole game, then what
Speaker 1: are you doing? What are moving things around? See Farnik
Speaker 1: is he involved here? Farniaccus I got word this morning
Speaker 1: that he's going to need probably all all the practice
Speaker 1: time that he can get one days. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I was here and there. So so when Peters is tired,
Speaker 1: what happens? You don't think do you not think that
Speaker 1: Peters can go a full game? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I would. He's never has been in that position. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know that we know it right, but even
Speaker 1: from the amount that we have watched it, as the
Speaker 1: game goes, I think you can notice him kind of
Speaker 1: just not giving up, but the changeing like the quickness,
Speaker 1: the how quick he starts getting slower. Yeah, just that's
Speaker 1: a good falling down. I mean, you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you had any confidence in Josh Ball at all,
Speaker 1: you would move Tyron. Well that's what I'm saying though.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe there's some time where you would give
Speaker 1: where you would give Jason Peters a series or two off.
Speaker 1: You know, but you're trying to win the game. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, or you can't better
Speaker 1: suited on the right than the left right, then you
Speaker 1: start worrying about like should you be moving Tyron back
Speaker 1: over to the left side? You know that makes me
Speaker 1: wonder if yeah, there's some questions. See I wonder, like
Speaker 1: I say, I wonder what your situation is with can
Speaker 1: you move? Do you move? I mean, I don't have
Speaker 1: an extra guard right now. That's the problem. And because
Speaker 1: I could say, okay, we're gonna take Peters off the
Speaker 1: field by kicking Tyler Smith back out the left tackle
Speaker 1: and then plugging somebody in it left guard. They do
Speaker 1: have an open roster spot with Dames Washington being being released,
Speaker 1: so they can so they can bring somebody from the
Speaker 1: practice squad that is out. That's what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: somebody out of elevations like Shipley k Koda. Shipley has
Speaker 1: been a guy that they brought up and down. What
Speaker 1: about Collins Avant Collins where you're gonna put him on
Speaker 1: the left side, Well, that's what I'm saying. You could
Speaker 1: play him at guard. You play him at guard, and
Speaker 1: then you move, you know, you move your your your
Speaker 1: you move Tyler Smith outside of that other center they had,
Speaker 1: I should know this, brock Hoffman Brock Yeah, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's I mean that that's that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: where you're that's kind of where you're at right now
Speaker 1: that you're trying to I think everybody's concerned about Jason
Speaker 1: Peters playing a whole game is legitimate because I do
Speaker 1: think he slows down during the game. I think he's
Speaker 1: a much better pass blocker than he is a run
Speaker 1: blocker right now, And I mean when the run blocking,
Speaker 1: when the ball goes away from him, because I just
Speaker 1: don't think he has the foot quickness to make those blocks.
Speaker 1: So about that, John Nathan Allen playing in this game
Speaker 1: kind of be nice if he doesn't. Yeah, that kind
Speaker 1: of break with the Titans, big guys and still didn't
Speaker 1: block very well. Right, Yeah, it's it's it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be easy. I mean, they're gonna have The thing you
Speaker 1: worry about is how many snaps does Jason Peters have
Speaker 1: in his body? How many snaps at forty years old
Speaker 1: does he have left? And so it's with with beyondish
Speaker 1: being out, you know, I mean it kind of it
Speaker 1: kind of really not only messes you up at center,
Speaker 1: but it messes you up at guard, and it messes
Speaker 1: you up at tackle because if what if you use
Speaker 1: up all of his snaps in this game and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he has to play in the
Speaker 1: playoff game, you know, and then now it's like he's
Speaker 1: beat down, not really really concerned thinking about the playoffs
Speaker 1: and what that might look. It's not ready other play
Speaker 1: someone else at center. Honestly now thinking about all of that.
Speaker 1: Put everybody else back to where you're normally where you are,
Speaker 1: and let's just play another center. I kind of agree
Speaker 1: with you, because that to me, I look at that
Speaker 1: and say, I think I can manage that a little better. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now let's also assume like if you're going to play
Speaker 1: Vita Vea and the and the and the Bucks in
Speaker 1: the first round. I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1: But against but against Washington, maybe I think that because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the snaps figure out. Okay McCarthy said yesterday.
Speaker 1: And was he being cryptic about his like there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some lineup changes or was it just the fact
Speaker 1: that that that the Governor's going to play center. See,
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem. That's if maybe maybe this whole thing,
Speaker 1: maybe they are thinking, I don't know if this I'd
Speaker 1: like we need to ask or find out, is dacode
Speaker 1: to Shipley, do you feel confident enough to him playing center?
Speaker 1: And keep everybody the same, you know, keep the tackle
Speaker 1: the same, keep the because the thing I worry, like
Speaker 1: I said it before and I always repeat myself, it's
Speaker 1: how many snaps can you get out of a forty
Speaker 1: year old body? There? Yeah, I mean, I mean, especially
Speaker 1: at that position. And again, and if you're going to
Speaker 1: need him for the playoffs, do you just gonna use
Speaker 1: him up? You know, in this game. But you got
Speaker 1: to try and win this game. You got to try
Speaker 1: and win. So that's that's the issues you're dealing with
Speaker 1: right now. All right, let's move on. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the the cornerback position right now. We've we've seen over
Speaker 1: the last several weeks. I think uh darn Bland and
Speaker 1: Nishan Wright have in my opinion, played some pretty good football,
Speaker 1: certainly much better than what specifically Nishan was when he
Speaker 1: first got into the role. I think he's improved. That
Speaker 1: being said, what do you guys think right now is
Speaker 1: the difference between Brown and Lewis and Bland and Right
Speaker 1: other other than their names, other than experience and that
Speaker 1: that just recognition of what you know routes are and
Speaker 1: and and what to expect. Oh, I've played him before,
Speaker 1: in fact, all that stuff in and tell me what
Speaker 1: you think the difference is in their ability to be
Speaker 1: able to do the job. Ability to get the job. Yeah, Tackling, Yeah, yeah, fact,
Speaker 1: I mean I think you got better tacklers in Right
Speaker 1: and Bland, And that's that's one of your hopes. We've
Speaker 1: seen teams Buccaneers first game perimeter runs. That's kind of
Speaker 1: where all this started, you know, because you were you
Speaker 1: were playing soft on the edges. I know that tackling
Speaker 1: is important and all that, and I know when you
Speaker 1: talk about corners. It's like, well, you need to cover,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you could do both, it helps.
Speaker 1: I Lewis, I think tackles better than what you know,
Speaker 1: what Brown did. But yeah, the experience there, that's why
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why Wright needs to keep playing. You know,
Speaker 1: you keep playing and Bland. To me, I don't see
Speaker 1: Bland as a problem. I really really don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he actually can help you a lot. So
Speaker 1: let me be a little clearer. Let's do this. If
Speaker 1: I put you on a scale of one to ten
Speaker 1: and you said ten being the best, and you said
Speaker 1: Brown and Lewis are a whatever, give me the number
Speaker 1: for Brown and Lewis and then give me the number
Speaker 1: for Bland and write seven to six, seven to five
Speaker 1: to seven and six. Yeah, probably run there. I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking because and writes bringing down rights, bringing that down
Speaker 1: a little bit, because Bland is playing great, I just think, right,
Speaker 1: so then would it be would it be the same,
Speaker 1: Like if Bland is That's why I mean, are you
Speaker 1: saying Bland is better than Brown? Playing better than Brown was?
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Brown, I'm sorry, I'd rather I'd rather
Speaker 1: have Brown, right, because because of the experience, well, Bland
Speaker 1: does give up some plays too. Now he makes five
Speaker 1: or does he just makes he makes some place. He
Speaker 1: gives up some too. Let's not forget that straight last year.
Speaker 1: But the ten that you've got there is helping all
Speaker 1: of that absolutely, And let's not forget he is the
Speaker 1: gap or maybe exposing all of that. Well. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to stay away from him, now, whatever's
Speaker 1: on the other side, they're gonna have to They're gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot more. No, but what he's saying that,
Speaker 1: that's that's the nature of you have a great player
Speaker 1: on one side. The other side is gonna have to
Speaker 1: play really well because they're gonna get challenge a ton. Sure, right,
Speaker 1: I would take I'd take Bland over Brown. And I
Speaker 1: was a Brown chirtleater all year until I saw I mean,
Speaker 1: once he went out, I think you got him more
Speaker 1: of a complete player with Bland playing, I mean I do.
Speaker 1: I just feel like he tackles, he covers, he turns
Speaker 1: over the ball, He's doing everything that I wish Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown would have done when I was cheerleading for him
Speaker 1: an Oxnard. Yeah, I wish, I wish, I wish Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown would have been Deron Bland this year. That would
Speaker 1: have made me feel a lot better. To me, With
Speaker 1: the veteran combo, you know what you're getting. So that's
Speaker 1: the difference with me. It's like, you know what you're getting,
Speaker 1: you know kind of what to expect and all that.
Speaker 1: With the younger combo, you are you don't know for
Speaker 1: sure because you haven't seen it a whole lot just yet.
Speaker 1: But the good thing the upside is that they keep improving,
Speaker 1: but it's at a point where now you need them
Speaker 1: to play at a very high level because this is it.
Speaker 1: This is it. Also the changes of what's happening with
Speaker 1: the defensive line and the pressure, the lack of pressure,
Speaker 1: I should say, yeah, that affects the way that these
Speaker 1: younger players are playing. So I think that if you
Speaker 1: get the pressure to go back to I know how
Speaker 1: it was at the beginning of the year, it's gonna
Speaker 1: really help these guys a whole lot and he's gonna change.
Speaker 1: But I do agree, like I like the what Bland
Speaker 1: is doing. I think it's very very impressive. What sucks
Speaker 1: for him is the the fact that he's having to
Speaker 1: do so much more this year start off, you know,
Speaker 1: in his first year right off the bat, he's having
Speaker 1: to carry a lot. So it goes back to the
Speaker 1: inexperience actually say, but the things when they do, like,
Speaker 1: he's a guy he's caught how many how many interceptions
Speaker 1: does he have right now? Five? Which is very impressive,
Speaker 1: and he does it and then right he's I've liked
Speaker 1: the guy since training camp, just his visique and his
Speaker 1: long arms and everything that he brings. And I like
Speaker 1: the fact that he's improving every game. But again, it
Speaker 1: just sucks that this is where we're at at the
Speaker 1: point of the year. Yeah. The thing that it's interesting
Speaker 1: about Bland as ay you actually trust him playing outside
Speaker 1: and playing the slot. And that's the thing about it
Speaker 1: when you look at it and you're thinking, man, they're
Speaker 1: throwing a lot at him, and this kid hasn't buckled.
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't buckled. And I that's the thing
Speaker 1: with Brown. I think Brown, I don't know Brown could
Speaker 1: play the slot, but I don't know if he could
Speaker 1: play it as well as what we've seen Bland right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Brown playing on the outside, okay, but Brown
Speaker 1: playing in the slot the way that he was kind
Speaker 1: of tentative in the way he was playing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I necessarily want that type of player inside.
Speaker 1: Why I'm not sure why this is all only Brown
Speaker 1: versus Bland. They done nothing, it matters because they're Joseph
Speaker 1: in there, I'm throwing I'm throwing Jordan Lewis in there,
Speaker 1: you know. Like like I mean, if it was up
Speaker 1: to me right now, I think I'd rather have I'd
Speaker 1: rather have Bland playing in the slot. And I'd rather
Speaker 1: have Anthony Brown out there as opposed to Bland and
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and Diggs. I'd rather have Brown, Bland and Diggs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be my three. So I mean as as this,
Speaker 1: you know, and Anthony, why is that? Why is it?
Speaker 1: I just because I think I think from the outside,
Speaker 1: I think you've got I think Brown can play well
Speaker 1: on the outside, and I think Bland is good on
Speaker 1: the slot. I think he I'd rather have him. He
Speaker 1: makes more plays on the ball Jordan Lewis. Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: is good, quick and all that stuff, But this guy
Speaker 1: makes plays on the ball. He makes these interceptions. And
Speaker 1: then if somebody's got to play on the outside, I
Speaker 1: think I would rather go with Brown, Bland and dig
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Nick, You're right about that. I
Speaker 1: think if you went back and looked at the five
Speaker 1: interceptions that Bland has had, all of them in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. Yeah, you know, like it's that
Speaker 1: reactionary quarterback trying to come back and then he he
Speaker 1: jumps it or he defends or whatever he has to do.
Speaker 1: And you're right, Jordan Lewis, you know, doesn't All wasn't
Speaker 1: always be in that type of a player there. So
Speaker 1: I think Bland's a hell of a player, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, something that that is impressive to me is
Speaker 1: given the fact how young he is. You look at
Speaker 1: some of these plays and it's like he he extends
Speaker 1: his arms to go in front, like he's like the
Speaker 1: knowledge the awareness that it is not like don't go through. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like he could be behind the guy or something, but
Speaker 1: he like somehow gets in front of him to make
Speaker 1: the play. And that to me, it's something that you
Speaker 1: don't always see with like a rookie. Yeah. Right. He's
Speaker 1: strong enough too to rustle the ball away from guys too.
Speaker 1: I mean he's had some interceptions where he's had to
Speaker 1: fight as he's doing what Amber's talking about to like
Speaker 1: get around and so you have a strong guy pulling
Speaker 1: a ball away. You know, I think that had you know,
Speaker 1: he had that one game against the Packers where he
Speaker 1: you know, he was on the wrong end of a
Speaker 1: couple of those big plays. But you know that was
Speaker 1: the game that Anthony brown got hurt. And um, now, no,
Speaker 1: he didn't get hurt. He got hurt that game as
Speaker 1: a concussion, but came back. He didn't get what is
Speaker 1: his injury down, Anthony Brownies. I don't remember what game
Speaker 1: that was. I know was it was on the They're
Speaker 1: all it was Minnesota. Yeah, it was on the sideline
Speaker 1: against thee But um but but Bland is not really
Speaker 1: playing like a rookie anymore. He's had some of those
Speaker 1: moments and then now it's he just keeps getting better
Speaker 1: and better. I mean, I mean Darren Woodson in his
Speaker 1: press conference yesterday, he just took time to just I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't know him exactly by name, but he knew
Speaker 1: he knew the guy that's making the plays. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think if we started this conversation turns to what
Speaker 1: you knew do next year, there is no scenario under
Speaker 1: which I think Bland goes back to being a bench player.
Speaker 1: Like he. To me, he is a starter, and and
Speaker 1: that is not just the Nickel. That is, he is
Speaker 1: a guy that's out there as your top two cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: And then you figure out what how you want to
Speaker 1: make that when you go to Nickel and whether he
Speaker 1: slides in or not. But to me, he's one of
Speaker 1: your top two cornerbacks. Well, listen to the draft show,
Speaker 1: because I've already scouted about sixty guys and cornerbacks, let's go.
Speaker 1: But that helps, I mean, and obviously when you when
Speaker 1: you win on a guy like that, I mean that
Speaker 1: that helps. I'm not saying you don't look at corner him.
Speaker 1: You certainly could look at the corner you can never have.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you don't have to necessarily, you
Speaker 1: don't have to jump into the draft and goal to
Speaker 1: have a corner like that year that they did a
Speaker 1: few years ago. And it does. It does make things
Speaker 1: very tenuous though for Kelvin Joseph. And when you start
Speaker 1: looking at going into next year, the fact that these
Speaker 1: other two guys are playing pretty well. Certainly Bland's playing
Speaker 1: well and nishan Wright seems to be getting better. Well,
Speaker 1: that's my point, Like it becomes very tenuous for him.
Speaker 1: Stop looking at me like that, Nick, I know what
Speaker 1: you're thinking, but yeah, no, it's it's very tenuous for him.
Speaker 1: And I think that's I don't know how he even
Speaker 1: works out of that, because unless somebody else gets hurt
Speaker 1: this year, he probably won't see the field on defense
Speaker 1: very much for the rest I mean, I don't. I
Speaker 1: think it goes without saying, and you know probably what
Speaker 1: I'm saying thinking about this, but as much as it is,
Speaker 1: you know, like as much as he needs to prove
Speaker 1: that he can be a good cornerback on the field
Speaker 1: and that maybe that happens in the playoffs or whatever
Speaker 1: when the season's over, from February to August, he needs
Speaker 1: to prove a lot as well. He needs to prove
Speaker 1: probably more than than he does on the field, and
Speaker 1: they both need to be you know, the maturity needs
Speaker 1: to happen. So if he gets that opportunity, those those
Speaker 1: months in the summer and spring, they're more important than
Speaker 1: anything he could do on the field in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: some questions. You know, you have a problem Helm and
Speaker 1: the eyebrows. Nick the face question, right, Frank Choppa, He says,
Speaker 1: as t Y Hilton moved up to the number two
Speaker 1: receiver or is he still the number three? I do
Speaker 1: think he's three. Thank he's three's I mean that's for
Speaker 1: what they want him to do, the role that they
Speaker 1: want him to play. But I mean it's kind of
Speaker 1: like two and three receiver doesn't really matter that much.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're both gonna play. Both are gonna be
Speaker 1: out there, but I think Gallip will probably get more
Speaker 1: snaps yeah, outside inside a little bit. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know that that number four will find that number sixteen
Speaker 1: if he has to. Yeah, I mean he's and the
Speaker 1: ball seats throwing his direction. Generally, really good things happen.
Speaker 1: So that's something. If you want to say he's the
Speaker 1: two or the three, doesn't matter. Four is going to
Speaker 1: find him. Like he's eighty eight out there too. Jane
Speaker 1: Novichik was never the two or the three, am and
Speaker 1: try to find him. Find him. So I would have
Speaker 1: been interesting too, interested to see how that would look
Speaker 1: like though, and it wouldn't happen at this point of
Speaker 1: the year. But if let's say they were playing this
Speaker 1: way mid season or a little bit before mid season,
Speaker 1: and then Gallup wasn't producing like he was or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, just to see the flip there and how
Speaker 1: that would even look like, and like maybe it would
Speaker 1: open things up even more for Gallop and having other
Speaker 1: types of opportunities that way. I don't know. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: one thing I would be considered about is Hilton has
Speaker 1: in his career, He's had a lot of those soft
Speaker 1: tissue issues, and for me, I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to risk losing him by giving him too much, So
Speaker 1: keep him in that role where you're giving you're managing
Speaker 1: his reps because he can be a valuable piece to
Speaker 1: you going into the playoffs, but you don't want to
Speaker 1: risk giving him too much. And then you lose them
Speaker 1: all together, and now you're right back to where you
Speaker 1: started without the kind of wide receiver support to you
Speaker 1: that you really need. All Right, we had a couple
Speaker 1: questions about a couple players I want to get to
Speaker 1: real quick before we give our predictions. Anthony rush Tach McKinley,
Speaker 1: Guys that were added to the practice squad that have
Speaker 1: not not really been a part of what's going on.
Speaker 1: What's going on with them, any chance that either one
Speaker 1: of them gets involved here this last week or maybe
Speaker 1: even into the playoffs. I think it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: for McKinley to play because I think they liked the
Speaker 1: rotation they got right now with what's going on at
Speaker 1: defensive ends, so I don't see that. I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those insurance Yeah, just be ready and you know,
Speaker 1: be ready if something happens. I mean, you know you're
Speaker 1: dealing with something with the Marcus in his foot, you know,
Speaker 1: knock on wood. But that's the whole You know that
Speaker 1: he doesn't practice very much to Marcus, so you know
Speaker 1: something might happen where you might need one of these
Speaker 1: defensive ends. I just don't see him playing anytimes. I
Speaker 1: mean honestly. I mean, if he's not gonna play, when
Speaker 1: Sam Williams gets in a car wreck on Friday and
Speaker 1: is it ruled out and you know you have a
Speaker 1: chance to elevate him on Saturday, you know that would
Speaker 1: be the one where I thought, well, okay, McKinley wood
Speaker 1: would play here. But because they've had issues on their
Speaker 1: offensive line and they've got to get these linemen up
Speaker 1: in there, he hasn't had that opportunity. But I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're doing what you need to be
Speaker 1: doing in practice and you're you're showing what a first
Speaker 1: round pick looks like, then he would have played. And
Speaker 1: I don't know about Rush, I don't know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they thought they would beat him. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: thing with them, they're going to get Hankins back for
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and so the thing with Rush though, is
Speaker 1: he always fights his weight, you know, talking to guys
Speaker 1: around the league, I talked to some. I talked to
Speaker 1: a team that actually worked him out this year and
Speaker 1: they sent him home because he was too heavy. He
Speaker 1: couldn't make it through the workout. So I think, again,
Speaker 1: Will McClay, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, this is a they
Speaker 1: protect themselves in certain spots. You know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: go out and find these defensive linemen or offensive linemen,
Speaker 1: you know when it's late in a year. So having
Speaker 1: him available, you know, working to get him in shape
Speaker 1: and all that. Again, I don't see Rush playing this week,
Speaker 1: or McKinley or any of those guys. They're just insurance
Speaker 1: policies in case something happens. But with him, um, I
Speaker 1: think it's really more about his weight and just trying
Speaker 1: to kind of make making sure that he's in shape
Speaker 1: if they have to play him. Right. Uh, let's go
Speaker 1: and move on to predictions. What do you guys expect
Speaker 1: to happen this weekend? Cowboys versus Commanders? Um? I think
Speaker 1: that I think what Washington does I mean is going
Speaker 1: to be interesting. I think that they'll have some energy.
Speaker 1: I think with the quarterback, and I think he'll do
Speaker 1: some things, but overall, Dallas will probably score some points
Speaker 1: like that like they have been scoring, and so I
Speaker 1: think it'll it'll be kind of a weird game for
Speaker 1: a little while, but I think the Cowboys will will win.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say thirty twenty one. I was, um hide
Speaker 1: in my head, like thirty six fourteen or something like that. Um.
Speaker 1: Two things that I'm going to be interested in. One,
Speaker 1: how many starters actually play two for the Commanders? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously yea, but obviously yeah quote unquote um. But also
Speaker 1: curious how the defense reacts to the young quarterback where
Speaker 1: they don't have any really tape just yet, and how
Speaker 1: that even the good thing is that they know ahead
Speaker 1: of time this is the guy they're going with, but
Speaker 1: is that gonna change it. I'm impressed by everything you
Speaker 1: you talked about him and like his college career and
Speaker 1: his ability and all that. So curious to see how
Speaker 1: the defense reacts to to a guy that they don't
Speaker 1: have much to prepare with. Yeah, from yeah, I think
Speaker 1: this is going to be a close game. I do,
Speaker 1: I just you know, And but a lot of like
Speaker 1: Amber says, it's about how they if they determine if
Speaker 1: they play all their guys Dallas twenty six twenty one
Speaker 1: in this football game. I think that I think How
Speaker 1: is going to have some success throwing the ball, especially
Speaker 1: if Dallas can't get pass rush home. This will be
Speaker 1: a good opportunity for dan Quinn should see how the
Speaker 1: safety blitz linebacker blitz kind of get some of that
Speaker 1: idea of those combinations. But if they don't get pressure
Speaker 1: on this guy, he can run the ball, he can escape,
Speaker 1: he could throw the ball. Well if they got weapons
Speaker 1: on the outside here too. Let's just score twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep that down. I mean, Brian the only one this
Speaker 1: year that's that's hailed it. Yeah, nail it again, all right.
Speaker 1: I actually think it's gonna be a lower scoring game.
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those weird kind of games.
Speaker 1: It's gonna feel preseason is. I think Washington will sit
Speaker 1: some of their guys, maybe not all of them, but
Speaker 1: I think they'll sit some. I think they will get
Speaker 1: a little bit of a boost from Sam how I
Speaker 1: think he'll do some things in this game that further
Speaker 1: make us a little bit concerned about this rushing defense.
Speaker 1: But all that being said, I just think it's good.
Speaker 1: Usually when you get into these games, or at least
Speaker 1: my experiences getting these games where it kind of feels
Speaker 1: like preseason, that's how the teams typically play, and so
Speaker 1: I think it ends up being like a twenty sixteen game.
Speaker 1: Cowboys win, but it's just one of those games where
Speaker 1: it's kind of messy as the field conditions will be,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be says there's a chance of rain, maybe rain,
Speaker 1: cool rain, Just a messy kind of game. And I
Speaker 1: just think at the end of the day, Cowboys get
Speaker 1: out with a win. But it's nothing that's gonna be
Speaker 1: impressive or anything. It's just gonna be quick. Uh, And
Speaker 1: I know we have to go, but super quick. If
Speaker 1: you're seeing, I know they're gonna be focused on the
Speaker 1: game and everything. But if you're seeing, like Philly got
Speaker 1: this game and they're about changing, yeah, you're changing. Is
Speaker 1: trying to tell you, well, go around the room real quick.
Speaker 1: Two or the five where you're gonna finish two or
Speaker 1: five five five five five. I think we all agree that, Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't see. And we've started hearing reports. They
Speaker 1: had a report yesterday one that the Giants are are
Speaker 1: looking like they're gonna sit. Guys, I haven't seen that
Speaker 1: yet about about the Hurds playing or not, though well
Speaker 1: I saw this morning their coach said he's progressing, the
Speaker 1: progressing every day, he'll have a chance. Okay, but they've
Speaker 1: been saying that for two weeks. So yeah, and I
Speaker 1: and I've been taking a lot of crap as you
Speaker 1: have from Philly fans. So f you Philly fans, that's
Speaker 1: what I'll say to hey that we'll be back on
Speaker 1: on Monday. We'll let you know what. Let's know what
Speaker 1: we're riding wrong with the Cowboys. They're not on here,
Speaker 1: they will be watched. Trust me, it'll end up in
Speaker 1: hating men. We will let you know what when riding
Speaker 1: around fick Cowboys, and we will get you ready for
Speaker 1: the playoffs they started next week. Till then for Nick
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